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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: After three longtime friends are all found dead on the

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Speaker 2: porch and in the backyard of a fourth friend. Repeat,

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Speaker 2: all three dead, and the friend inside claiming he knew

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Speaker 2: nothing about what was going on. More bad news for

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Speaker 2: the scientists arrested over the deaths of the three Chiefs

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Speaker 2: fans found frozen outside his home. I'm Nancy Grace. This

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Speaker 2: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us in

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Speaker 2: the last days. Bad news for a scientist's renowned for

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Speaker 2: his research, busted over the deaths of his three friends

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Speaker 2: found frozen outside his home.

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Speaker 1: He has now been sued.

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Speaker 2: By the father of one of the victims, David Harrington's dad,

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Speaker 2: seeking one hundred thousand dollars in damages in a negligence lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: The suit is filed against both the.

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Speaker 2: Homeowner, Jordan Willis's scientist thirty nine, and his alleged drug dealer,

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Speaker 2: Ivory carson Age forty two. According to reports, now, the

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Speaker 2: three friends Harrington, Ricky Johnson, Clayton mcghiney lasting alive, all

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Speaker 2: watching the final regular season's Chiefs game in January, two

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Speaker 2: days before their bodies were discovered in Willis's Kansas City backyard.

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Speaker 2: Now of course, after a long investigation, Willis and Carson,

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Speaker 2: the homeowner, the scientist and the dope dealer alleged dope

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Speaker 2: dealer were charged with involuntary manslaughter and delivery of a

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Speaker 2: control of substance, that being cocaine and deadly fentanyl. They

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Speaker 2: both pled not guilty, but now a lawsuit. Let's refresh

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Speaker 2: our recollection, as we say in court. Two arrested. Two

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Speaker 2: who apparently froze to death and their scientist's friend backyard

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Speaker 2: and on his porch and he didn't notice a thing

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Speaker 2: for two days. A guy is dead, your friend is

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Speaker 2: dead in a lounge chair on your porch, and you

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Speaker 2: go two days ignoring repeated calls, text messages, social media

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Speaker 1: You don't see any of that. You show up at

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Speaker 1: the front.

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Speaker 2: Door and you're underwear with a glass of wine and

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Speaker 2: go hahua.

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Speaker 1: Two people arrested listen.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson have been charged with distribution

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Speaker 3: of a controlled substance and three counts of involuntary manslaughter.

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Speaker 2: That from our friends at KNBC nine News joining me

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Speaker 2: in All Star but first I want to go to

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Speaker 2: a very special.

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Speaker 1: Guest joining us.

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Speaker 2: It's Jonathan Price, the brother of one of those three victims,

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Speaker 2: Ricky Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan, thank you for being.

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Speaker 4: With us, Thank you for having me Nancy.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, I wonder sometimes if this day would ever come.

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Speaker 2: You said from the get go, something is wrong, something

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Speaker 2: is horribly wrong. It didn't happen this way, and you

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Speaker 2: were right, yeah, it just.

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Speaker 4: From the very beginning, it didn't make sense. And it

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Speaker 4: still doesn't make.

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Speaker 5: Sense that they were able to rule out foul play

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Speaker 5: from day one, and then you know.

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Speaker 4: With these charges.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know the legal definition of foul play,

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Speaker 5: but it definitely seems like they now believe that there

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Speaker 5: was foul play. So just keeping keeping us in the

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Speaker 5: dark for this long, it's very troubling, but there is

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Speaker 5: still a sense of relief among all of us that

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Speaker 5: this is hopefully coming to a conclusion.

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Speaker 2: You guys have been dragged through hell and back. And

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Speaker 2: during the Super Bowl when the Chiefs were playing, I

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Speaker 2: thought about you and your family and I wondered what's

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Speaker 2: going through their minds tonight as everybody's celebrating and partying,

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Speaker 2: and you still did not have answers in your brother's death.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think about Ricky daily,

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Speaker 5: and you know, even more so when the Chiefs are

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Speaker 5: we shared that our entire lives and uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: those those memories will always live on and uh, you know, like.

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Speaker 4: I said before, it's there.

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Speaker 5: There is a sense of relief that, you know, something

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Speaker 5: that's coming from all of this.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was one ring Jonathan when everybody was celebrating

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Speaker 2: playing in the Super Bowl, and everybody's what's Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: she pregnant? Blah blah blah blah blah. Were you thinking

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Speaker 2: what about my brother? What about my brother? Because I

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, every every day we've been saying this,

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Speaker 5: and you know, it's kind of went a radio asilent

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Speaker 5: were still hearing that there was no foul play. You know,

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Speaker 5: there's there's just too much still out there, and it's

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Speaker 5: it's all about what's going to come out of trial.

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Speaker 5: But you know there's still lots of questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Jonathan, there is absolutely gonna be a trial.

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Speaker 1: You guys kept in the dark for so long, which.

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Speaker 2: Must have been agonizing, agonizing as you wanted so badly

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Speaker 2: for all that time he sat in his house, throwing

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Speaker 2: back the booze, hanging around in his underwearing This guy

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Speaker 2: is no idiot. He's a scientist, for Pete's sake. Ignoring

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Speaker 2: How can you ignore that?

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Speaker 1: How can you not hear.

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Speaker 2: The phone for two days, not notice that you are

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Speaker 2: being barraged in social media and texts and emails, acting

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Speaker 1: Well, this is how the whole thing started.

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Speaker 6: January seventh is a football day for the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 6: as they will be playing the Los Angeles Chargers. So

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Speaker 6: thirty eight year old Jordan Willis invites a couple of

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Speaker 6: David Harrington, Ricky Johnson, and Clayton mcghiney arrive at Willis's

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Speaker 6: They enjoy the game is the Chiefs beat the Chargers

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Speaker 2: So everything's fine. They're all there watching the game together.

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Speaker 2: Then what happens after the game? Jordan Willis waves the

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Speaker 6: On Monday, January eighth, Jordan Willis claims he did not

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Speaker 6: but they're all staying at his dad's place.

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Speaker 2: He had described his dogs as the quote loves of

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Speaker 2: his life. How did they end up somewhere else? Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's just a tangential question. But right there, something is

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Speaker 2: way wrong.

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Matt Right there, Dave.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Willison, This is on a Sunday, the scientist.

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Speaker 2: He waves away the friends and claims he crashes on

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Speaker 1: For what the next two or three days?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you take it from Sunday until finally

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's his story day, seriously.

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Speaker 7: And he's sticking to it, Nancy. He has always claimed

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Speaker 7: He was sound asleep for the next seventy two hours,

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Speaker 7: and he missed all the messages. He didn't get any

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Speaker 7: pet he didn't get any text messages, phone calls because

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Speaker 7: that phone was ringing off the hook. All those guys,

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Speaker 7: family and friends were reaching out to him because they

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Speaker 7: through the entire thing for three days and he only

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Price is with me. This is Ricky Johnson's brother

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Speaker 2: who passed away. You know, when I think about what

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Speaker 2: he went through, it was so cold out there, do

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Speaker 2: you let yourself. I mean, I try not to think

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Speaker 2: He was shot five times in the face, the neck,

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Speaker 2: the head, and I try not to think about it

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Speaker 2: because it will mess me up so badly, and I

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Speaker 2: have children to raise. Do you ever let yourself think

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think about that all the time, you know,

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Speaker 5: especially with you know, these these three gentlemen, you know,

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Speaker 5: being inseparable for a very very long time, and for

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Speaker 5: and what some of them were going through in the

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I just have so many questions still on how that

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Speaker 2: And I pray that all the facts, not just some

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Speaker 2: of the facts, but that all the facts will.

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Speaker 1: Come out and we will know. Is no idiot?

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Speaker 2: Three days Sunday Monday Tuesday, and I never knew my friend,

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Speaker 2: my friend was dead on the front on the back porch,

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Speaker 2: and my other friends were dead lying in my yard.

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Speaker 1: How can he? How can he say that? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Calls and all the texts and all the emails and

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Speaker 2: all the social media. He said he was wearing noise

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Speaker 2: canceling headphones for three days.

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Speaker 8: Really he says he was wearing noise canceling earphones and

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Speaker 8: he was in his house. He didn't notice the car

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Speaker 8: He wasn't texting them the day after. Hey, guys, let's

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Speaker 8: go get tickets for the next game because the Chiefs

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Speaker 8: had won. Completely acted like he was completely shut off

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Speaker 1: Sure maybe right.

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Speaker 8: You maybe can't hear a little thing in the next room,

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Speaker 8: but you're going to hear people beating on your door

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Speaker 8: and you're going to see your phone blowing up for

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Speaker 1: So let me understand something, Dave Mac.

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Speaker 2: How many days passed before the girlfriend the fiance has

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Speaker 2: to come and literally break in?

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Speaker 1: When did that happen? Just give me a number?

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Speaker 7: Two days, all right? Two days? What day was on?

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Speaker 1: The game was Tuesday?

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Speaker 7: Games on Saturday on Sunday the seventh, and Tuesday the

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Speaker 7: ninth is the day police are at the door.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what. They didn't teach me math in

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Speaker 2: law school. But seven eight nine, that's three days. Seven

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Speaker 2: is Sunday, the day of the game, which is in

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Speaker 2: the early afternoon, all night, all day Monday until Finally, Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: when the fiance is beside herself, she can't find her

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Speaker 2: fiance and goes looking for him.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 9: On January eighth, friends and family are concerned. They were

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Speaker 9: headed to Jordan willis house to watch the game, but

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Speaker 9: now none of the guys, including Jordan Willis, are replying

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Speaker 9: to messages on social media or by phone.

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Speaker 10: On Tuesday, January ninth, nine fifty one pm, Clayton McKinney's

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Speaker 2: Oh my stars, okay, Jonathan Price is joining me.

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Speaker 1: This is Ricky's brother, beloved brother.

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Speaker 2: I might ad they grew up together and they would

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Speaker 2: Early afternoon Sunday they're together, and Sunday night all day Monday,

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Speaker 2: Derek Smith is joining me out of Ohio. He's at

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Speaker 11: Us, finally movement a bombshell arrest of two people in

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Speaker 1: Can he really look at a.

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Speaker 12: Yes and no, and this is a terrible situation, is

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Speaker 2: So he saw the bodies and then passed back out,

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Speaker 2: World Domination, Doctor Heidiegreen dot com. Doctor Heidie. So now

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Speaker 2: we're getting a spin on that and no telling what

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Speaker 13: So it is very unlikely that he fell unconscious for

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Bad news for a scientist and so called friend busted

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Speaker 9: police knocked on his door. Haley Lttier wrote, my husband

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Speaker 9: banged on his door for twenty minutes. My friend banged

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Speaker 9: and Ricky need and deserve justice.

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Speaker 1: Yes they do.

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Speaker 2: And in the last hours a bombshell, two people arrested

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Speaker 2: with me. This is Ricky's brother, Jonathan. Your brother is

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Speaker 2: always described as a Kansas City chief fan. That's really

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Speaker 4: Tell me well, Ricky was very humble.

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Speaker 5: He he loved everybody he ever interacted with.

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Speaker 5: He helped out anybody in need anytime, no matter if

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Speaker 2: Tell me about your family, Well, I mean we kind of.

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Speaker 5: We grew up separated at some points, but we always

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Speaker 5: And there's very fond memories of of Ricky growing up

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Speaker 2: When you say the memories you had growing up memories.

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Speaker 5: Well, my love for football, I love for all sports

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Speaker 4: I just I looked up to them.

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Speaker 2: We are learning more about the death of the so

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Speaker 15: As news starts to spread of the three friends freezing

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Speaker 6: The Daily Mail reports Willis insists he spent the next

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Price, where were the victims cars part in relation

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Speaker 5: I guess if you're based on what I've heard, if

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Speaker 2: So Barry Hudgson joining me, former la now chief investigator

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Speaker 1: Barry, let me understand. So this guy, the so called friend.

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Speaker 2: He could see those, but he couldn't see his dead

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Speaker 4: Man see this.

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Speaker 16: Story, you know, his his excuses for how everything happened.

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Speaker 16: You know, I've been thinking about this and one of

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Speaker 16: You know, when you arrest a drunk on the street

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Speaker 1: He gasked me, yeah, I mean he had to get

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Speaker 2: Doctor Kimdall Crown's joining me, and he's here for other reasons.

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Speaker 2: But since we're on this topic, Doctor Kendall Crown's with me,

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Speaker 2: Chief Medical Examiner Terrant County.

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Speaker 1: That's fort worth, never a.

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Speaker 2: Lack of business, esteamed lecturer at Burnett School of Medicine

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Speaker 2: March seven, Doctor crowns, Is that true what Barry just

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Speaker 2: told us? I mean, how could you go seventy two

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Speaker 17: Oh, I agree with that. There's no way you could

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Speaker 10: Jordan Willis's attorney, John Piserno, refuses to answer questions about

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Speaker 1: Liar, packs up and goes to rehab.

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Speaker 2: So to Jonathan Price, when did you learn that the

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Speaker 5: of the unfortunate part of all this. If you have

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Speaker 5: the mental capacity to know you have a problem after

445
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Speaker 5: the fact and check yourself into rehab, then you know

446
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Speaker 5: you know more about what happened that night. And I

447
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Speaker 5: don't know if you share that or not with the authorities,

448
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Speaker 5: but the fact that he was not detained after that

449
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Speaker 5: night or the past fourteen months doesn't really make any

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Speaker 5: sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to Derek Smith, why is that the

452
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Speaker 2: go to with your clients and all the stars. It's

453
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Speaker 2: only after they're busted for something that they suddenly realize

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Speaker 2: they have a problem and they hide out in rehab.

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Speaker 12: Well, unfortunately, it takes an event like that to really

456
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Speaker 12: change a lifestyle or change your mindset, or even in

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Speaker 12: these cases, a serious addiction.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's akin to.

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Speaker 12: Being in a certain way of life, certain way of

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Speaker 12: doing things. Everything's fine as long as everything's fine, and

461
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Speaker 12: then something tragic or something terrible, or the law gets

462
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Speaker 12: involved and you have to make a drastic change.

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Speaker 4: And that's, unfortunately just how it is. Sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Joining me right now is a special guest just joining us,

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Speaker 2: Eric Zand is with us. It is the Platte County

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Speaker 2: prosecutor who was working on the case. And I know

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Speaker 2: Eric number one, thank you for being with us, But

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Speaker 2: I know what you can say is limited, having been

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Speaker 2: a prosecutor for many years myself, but I want to

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Speaker 2: thank you for.

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Speaker 1: Being with us.

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Speaker 2: The family questioned this from the get go, and I

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Speaker 2: know the prosecutors get the case once LA law enforcement

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Speaker 2: finishes their investigation. But I'm sure you know, having dealt

475
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Speaker 2: with so many crime victims, how agonizing this has been

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Speaker 2: for the family to be waiving the banner. This isn't right,

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Speaker 2: This isn't normal. This guy's not innocent. He won't say

478
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Speaker 2: a word to us about what happened. This is the

479
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Speaker 2: alleged best friend. They've been waiting all this time. Now, Eric,

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I'm glad finally have bombshell arrests

481
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Speaker 2: in the desks of the three Kansas City Chase fans.

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Speaker 1: But what took so long? Please explain it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, You're absolutely right, And Nancy, this was a long

484
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Speaker 14: time coming. And our hearts absolutely go out to these

485
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Speaker 14: family members. I met with them shortly after these deaths,

486
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Speaker 14: and it's just really tragic. It's honestly, it's another reminder

487
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Speaker 14: of the dangers of street drugs, and these cases are

488
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Speaker 14: tough to put together. Cracking down who's responsible for providing

489
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Speaker 14: these drugs is no easy task. But I can't tell

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Speaker 14: you how proud I am Nancy of the Kansas City

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Speaker 14: Police Department and prosecutors in my office, who from day

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Speaker 14: one said that they weren't going to rest until we

493
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Speaker 14: exhausted every possible resource to bring the people we believe

494
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Speaker 14: responsible for these crimes to justice, and yesterday was the

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Speaker 14: first step in that. As you know, these men are

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Speaker 14: presumed innocent and lesson until proven guilty. But we've charged

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Speaker 14: them what we think happened, which was providing cocaine and

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Speaker 14: fentanyl and causing the deaths of these three men.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, this is what Platte County

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Speaker 2: Prosecutor Eric Xand had to say.

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Speaker 3: A doctor with Forensic Medical of Kansas found that mister mcghini,

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Speaker 3: mister Harrington, and mister Johnson all died of fentanyl and

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Speaker 3: cocaine combined toxicity.

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Speaker 1: Now from our friends at KMBC nine News, So.

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Speaker 2: Eric, your assertion, what you're going to prove, I think

506
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Speaker 2: in trial is that the casual use of a little cocaine,

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Speaker 2: although family says that at least one of the victims

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Speaker 2: had never used cocaine before, but the casual use of

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Speaker 2: cocaine turned deadly because it was cut with finnel.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: In this case, what we alleged is that there were

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Speaker 14: two baggies found at the scene. One of those baggies

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Speaker 14: contained cocaine. The other baggie we alleged contained sentinel. Them

514
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Speaker 14: found that it was a combination of those two drugs

515
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Speaker 14: that caused these men's deaths, and so we charged both

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Speaker 14: of the men one of them who we believe provided

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Speaker 14: the cocaine, the other who we alleged sold the fentanyl

518
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Speaker 14: that caused these deaths, and we allege, because we charged

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Speaker 14: them with manslaughter, that they recklessly caused the deaths of

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Speaker 14: these three men.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, to listen to what Jonathan Price.

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Speaker 18: Had to say from the very beginning, he said that

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Speaker 18: before the fifth person came out, he said that Jordan

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Speaker 18: was there sporadically throughout the day and then whenever, and

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Speaker 18: then he also did not mention a fifth person. But

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Speaker 18: once the fifth person came out, then he changed it

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Speaker 18: to saying that there was a fifth person and that

528
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Speaker 18: he was asleep the entire time. So those were two

529
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Speaker 18: very specific detail bills that were specific in the opening

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Speaker 18: statement but then changed over time.

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Speaker 2: So alexis Terestchuk joining US crime Stories, investigative reporter, the

532
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Speaker 2: best friend now charged in a homicide case, changed his story.

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Speaker 2: He never mentioned anybody else was there beside him and

534
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Speaker 2: his three buddies, all dead, frozen dead in the backyard,

535
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Speaker 2: and he goes three days and doesn't notice they're on

536
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Speaker 2: his back porch.

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Speaker 1: There's a mystery guy, a fifth person. Alex says he

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Speaker 1: changed his story.

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Speaker 8: Why because the fifth person was a person that provided

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Speaker 8: the drugs. According to police, this is somebody who they

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Speaker 8: have all known for quite a while that Jordan has known,

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Speaker 8: and he was contacted and this man brought the drugs.

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Speaker 1: So this so there's cocaine.

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Speaker 8: Jordan Willis's DNA is on the cocaine, Ivory Carson's DNA

545
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Speaker 8: is on the bag of fentannel and that is the

546
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Speaker 8: toxic combination that killed these men. So he was he

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Speaker 8: had come over and brought them the cocaine. And the

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Speaker 8: way that the police found this out wasn't through Jordan Willis.

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Speaker 8: He never mentioned any of these details. But David Harrington's

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Speaker 8: phone is the one phone that they were able to

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Speaker 8: extract evidence from, and they saw on there there were

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Speaker 8: group chats about buying the cocaine. Willis was the one

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Speaker 8: that would always provide it for them. These other guys

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Speaker 8: didn't have enough. Cocain's expensive, it's not a cheap drug.

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Speaker 8: And then you topped that off with the feninol and

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Speaker 8: he was the one that did it. So there were

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Speaker 8: group chat text messages that showed that these were having out.

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Speaker 2: The drugs to Eric Xanne joining me right now, Platt's

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Speaker 2: County prosecutor, who is charged with last sewing all this

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Speaker 2: evidence and presenting it to a jury. Did he really

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Speaker 2: think we wouldn't find out about the fifth guy, the

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Speaker 2: mystery man, and all of his statements at the get

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Speaker 2: go that was never mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Now we know why he was the dope dealer.

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Speaker 14: Well, and Nancy, I can't I can't comment on exactly

566
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Speaker 14: what either of these defendants thought were said, but what

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Speaker 14: I can tell you is that we allege that mister

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Speaker 14: Willis provided cocaine and mister Carson sold Entinel to these men,

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Speaker 14: and we alleged that resulted in the deaths of these

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Speaker 14: three great people who were boyfriends, husbands, fathers, sons of

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Speaker 14: people in Kansas City. It's truly tragic. And here's what

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Speaker 14: folks have to understand. If you deal drugs and somebody

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Speaker 14: dies as a result, we will do everything we can

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Speaker 14: to make sure that you're held accountable for the deaths

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Speaker 14: of those people. That's exactly what we're trying to do

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Speaker 14: in this case.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: A one hundred thousand dollars bombshell laws filed by one

579
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Speaker 2: of the three Kansas City chiefs. Fans Dad his son

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Speaker 2: freezes in the backyard of homeowner Jordan Willis. The lawsuits

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Speaker 2: against Willis a so called friend an Willis's alleged drug dealer,

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Speaker 2: Ivory Carson.

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Speaker 18: What happened if just one of them, even two of

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Speaker 18: them passed out at the same time, which is already impossible,

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Speaker 18: you know, the other man would have absolutely brought them

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Speaker 18: inside and called for help something.

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Speaker 4: So that's just insane.

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Speaker 2: This is what Platt County Prosecutor Eric Xander tells us.

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Speaker 3: He saw a large plate of cocaine allegedly supplied by

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Speaker 3: mister Willis that everyone was using.

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Speaker 2: According to prosecutors, the descendant provided it, the friend, the friend,

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Speaker 2: the scientists, the HIV researcher, Jordan Willis H thirty nine,

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Speaker 2: the best friend supplied a plate of coke, possibly laced

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Speaker 2: with fenton.

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Speaker 1: To his friends.

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Speaker 2: You were just hearing from our friends at KMBC nine

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Speaker 2: us to doctor Kendall Crown's joining us, Doctor Kendle crowns,

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Speaker 2: I want to understand how the use of these drugs,

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Speaker 2: potentially cocaine cut with fentanyl. Don't know if they knew

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Speaker 2: it was cut with fentanyl, what that would look like.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard for me to understand.

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Speaker 2: Although I've heard about it, I've prosecuted, I've seen it

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Speaker 2: at crime scenes where you have a party and there's

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Speaker 2: a plate.

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Speaker 1: Of cocaine out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would think there'd be sandwiches and chicken wings, right, celery, carrots,

607
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Speaker 2: ranch dip. There's a plate of cocaine and everybody's doing it.

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Speaker 1: You know how many times have you heard that, mom?

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Speaker 1: Everybody's doing it? How are people supposed.

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Speaker 2: To know that cocaine could be laced with fentanyl and

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Speaker 2: what fentanyl can do with you? Even a touch of

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Speaker 2: fentanyl can kill you. So what would fentanyl look like?

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Speaker 2: Can it be in a powder form?

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Speaker 17: Yes, it can. Actually it'll be kind of in a wipe.

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Speaker 17: It can be in a white pottery form. It can

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Speaker 17: be in the form of a fake percocet, which is

617
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Speaker 17: a blue pill that has an M thirty label on it.

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Speaker 17: It can be a patch. It can even be on

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Speaker 17: a lozenge type suckers, one of the ways it is distributed.

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Speaker 17: But anyway, cocaine, if it's cut with something fentanyl, can

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Speaker 17: be very deadly. And you don't know how much fentanyl

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Speaker 17: has been put in there, how much fentanyl you're actually

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Speaker 17: getting with the amount of cocaine that's been cut with it.

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Speaker 17: So that's why you could have a group of people

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Speaker 17: sitting together and three of them die and two of

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Speaker 17: them live because one got more fentanyl than the other.

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Speaker 17: Because it's it's really not regulated like a drug through

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Speaker 17: the FDA. It's just widely all over the place. So

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Speaker 17: that's why the street drugs are very dangerous is you

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Speaker 17: never know what you're getting. And one thing, we've had

631
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Speaker 17: cocaine cut with a dog de warmer as well, so

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Speaker 17: it's incredibly dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Under Kendall Crowns, I have investigated cases, for instance, an

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Speaker 2: infant at daycare. Little did the family know that the

635
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Speaker 2: daycare provider was storing fentanyl there also dealing like I

636
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Speaker 2: think the husband or the boyfriend was dealing, and they

637
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Speaker 2: moved the fentanyl from one place to the next inside

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Speaker 2: the daycare and that movement released particles of fentanyl and

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Speaker 2: the infant inhaled it or touched it.

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Speaker 1: It killed the baby.

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Speaker 2: So if you've got a plate of cocaine at last,

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Speaker 2: with any fennel at all, there's your OD right there.

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Speaker 2: What started off as I guess a good time is

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Speaker 2: in death. I mean, you can die from even inhaling

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Speaker 2: particles or touching particles of fentanyl.

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Speaker 17: Yes, fentanyl is incredibly dangerous, and even its friends and

647
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Speaker 17: or another derivative of it, car fentanyl, is even more dangerous.

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Speaker 17: It's come down to the fact that law enforcement and

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Speaker 17: paramedics will now carry in the lock zone, which is

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Speaker 17: a way to counteract the effects of the opioid on

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Speaker 17: their rigs or in their cars, to if they get

652
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Speaker 17: exposed to it and begin having symptoms, they can take

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Speaker 17: it and try and save themselves. So fentanyl is incredibly dangerous.

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Speaker 17: It's not a drug you really should mess with.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about these victims and how they ended

657
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Speaker 2: up frozen in plain view of their so called friend

658
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Speaker 2: Jordan Willis, you know, I'm trying to think about their families.

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Speaker 2: Dave mac tell me about the victims families. I know

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Speaker 2: Jonathan is here speaking on behalf of his brother Ricky,

661
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Speaker 2: who died that day, whose body sat out there freezing

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Speaker 2: for so long.

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Speaker 1: What about the other victims? You know?

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Speaker 7: Nancy Mister Harrington's mom Juri Lisa, claim she's been kept

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Speaker 7: out of the loop since the bodies were found. She

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Speaker 7: said that they wouldn't tell me anything now she is

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Speaker 7: saying that the statements made it easy to think that

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Speaker 7: they had already made up their minds and there wouldn't

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Speaker 7: be any further investigation. And she's really pushing back on this.

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Speaker 7: She said the arrest didn't really clear up any speculation

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Speaker 7: about the dead, saying, quote, I still don't know anything

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Speaker 7: about how my son died or his last moments. That's

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Speaker 7: pretty upsetting when you look at this over a year

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Speaker 7: down the road, that she doesn't know any more than

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Speaker 7: you and I might know.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Kendall Crown's what would someone go through if they literally

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Speaker 2: sat outside and an accidental fencyl stupor and Froe dead.

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Speaker 1: That would be horrible, but they couldn't get up and move.

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Speaker 17: So basically, fentnyl makes your respiratory drive decrease and makes

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Speaker 17: your brain not think it needs enough oxygen, and so

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Speaker 17: you slowly kind of drift off into a coma that

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Speaker 17: eventually your brain, not getting enough oxygen, begins to die,

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Speaker 17: which causes your lungs to fill with fluid, and then

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Speaker 17: you pass away. It wouldn't necessarily immobilize you to the

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Speaker 17: point that you couldn't get up and get yourself out

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Speaker 17: of an unsafe situation unless you've gone into a coma.

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Speaker 2: So those individuals, how would they sit there and on

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Speaker 2: the porch and a lounge chair and lay in the

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Speaker 2: backyard if they could move? I mean, I'm certainly not

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Speaker 2: a medical doctor, but certainly they would get up off

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Speaker 2: the porch or get off the ground and come inside.

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Speaker 2: According to the defendant, the door was unlocked. I submit

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Speaker 2: they couldn't.

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Speaker 17: Well, that's if they're so conscious, if they've gotten enough

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Speaker 17: fentanyl in and it's caused them to go into basically

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Speaker 17: a coma, they can't move at that point and then

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Speaker 17: they will either more likely than not die from the

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Speaker 17: f prior to dying from freezing to death, because there

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Speaker 17: are autopsy findings you'll find that'll show that they died

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Speaker 17: from hypeoth thermia or freezing to death, which I haven't

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Speaker 17: seen any reports of that being found.

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Speaker 1: Alexis ter Reshut.

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Speaker 2: We keep referring to them as the Kansas City Chiefs fans,

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Speaker 2: and they were so much more than that.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about their families, well, Clayton mcginney was engaged.

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Speaker 8: He was engaged to a woman named April Mahoney, and

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Speaker 8: they were very happy together. They were very young, you know,

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Speaker 8: he worked in construction, small business construction, and he was

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Speaker 8: going through a really rough time.

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Speaker 1: There weren't a lot of jobs.

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Speaker 8: But they were still together at the time, and she

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Speaker 8: in fact started a GoFundMe to sell everybody like he

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Speaker 8: was so wonderful and he was somebody that was her

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Speaker 8: whole life, and the two of them had all these

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Speaker 8: future plans together and then it was abruptly cut short.

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Speaker 8: And in fact, she was the one that found that

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Speaker 8: April was trying, trying, trying to reach him, Clayton, calling

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Speaker 8: him over and over again. She's the one that showed

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Speaker 8: up which Jordan Willis's house. She broke through the basement window,

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Speaker 8: she got out, she found Clayton, and then the other

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Speaker 8: two guys.

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Speaker 2: Did Overnight we learn two arrested in the horrific deaths

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Speaker 2: of three Kansas City Chiefs fans watching a football game

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Speaker 2: with their so called best friend now behind bars. Arrested

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Speaker 2: the so called best friend, Jordan Willis, and a guy

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Speaker 2: named Ivory J. Carson ak a blade. Okay, straight back

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Speaker 2: out to Jonathan Price, this is Ricky's brother.

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Speaker 1: Tell me your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Everything up, you know, I just you know, he was

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Speaker 5: my brother, cherish a lot and his three daughters, you know,

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Speaker 5: and you know, so a couple of.

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Speaker 4: Them are a little bit young to fully understand.

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Speaker 5: It's a it's very difficult to think about what they

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Speaker 5: are going through and the answers that they've been neglected

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Speaker 5: for all this time, and it's it's just, you know,

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Speaker 5: very makes us very distraught.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Price, you want to set the record straight on

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Speaker 2: some certain issues.

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Speaker 4: What well, one of the things that we've been told

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Speaker 4: since the.

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Speaker 5: Beginning which did not make sense is the.

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Speaker 4: Ruling out of foul play, and you know, the the.

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Speaker 5: Amount of information that we've gotten since then, you know,

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Speaker 5: since January ninth, it's it's been very disappointing. I'm glad

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Speaker 5: that I understand that it takes time, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm glad that we are finally getting some answers, but

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Speaker 5: there's there's still a lot out there that we don't

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Speaker 5: fully understand. And just three or four months ago, Jordan's

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Speaker 5: lawyer was saying that he thinks that charges will come,

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Speaker 5: but not to Jordan, and that's from talking to some prosecutor.

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Speaker 5: So that part doesn't make sense to me either. And

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Speaker 5: I'm just the more I get back into this, you know,

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Speaker 5: the more pain that's coming back, just like there was

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Speaker 5: back then, and the more questions that are arising from

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Speaker 5: all of this.

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Speaker 1: A bombshell lawsuit filed.

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Speaker 2: A civil lawsuit in the case of three Kansas City

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Speaker 2: chiefs fans frozen dead in a dude's backyard and he

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Speaker 2: says he slept for what three days and didn't notice.

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Speaker 1: Them all dead.

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Speaker 2: Really, you think a jury's going to believe that we

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Speaker 2: wait as.

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Speaker 1: Just as unfolds. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,