1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: John Harris is with us. He is the football analyst. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: I love that title, the football analyst that makes you 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: sound like the smartest guy and everyone. Yes, football analysts 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans. He's the NFL Draft insider for 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: the team and he's also the draft insider and owner 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: of Football takeover dot Com. John, Good to be with 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: you back in Indy after a year off. Oh boys, 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: it is good to see you guys. We missed you 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium, and of course you know this year 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: was a not a great year for seeing you guys. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Thirty one was a thirty one to three and thirty 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: one to nothing. It was something like that. Yeah, seeing 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: the Horseshoe is has not been not been good the 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: last few years. But it is good to see you guys. 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: I love we all love coming up to Indy for 16 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: this event. Yes, just and I know you guys love 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: hosting it, love being the host for everybody. And I 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: live twelve minutes from here. It's glorious. We don't, but 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: we'll take the flight. We'll take the flight every single year. Man. 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: We love coming up Beers. Twice year we come up 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: here and I think Wednesday is one of our favorite 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: local establishments. I don't know if I it's said on 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: the radio, we always say it, say I'm Prime forty seven. 24 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Yes they are, they are a sponsor, So you're in 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: good shape. Okay. Is it sacrilegious to say that? Everybody 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: seems to think of one other place and we Prime 27 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: forty seven. That's our place. You can't go wrong. That's 28 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: what I always say, you can't go wrong. Yeah, it's great. 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: You know. That's a great point is if you've got 30 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: new hires and they haven't had the shrimp cocktail, you 31 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: can get it anywhere, so you're you're good there. But no, 32 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: we we seriously love coming here and this is such 33 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: a great event and see it back here in the 34 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: convention center and Lucas Oil is really cool. All right, 35 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: so let's start there filling the blank. If if the 36 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: combine leaves Indie, you will feel blank. Sad. Yeah, yeah, 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: this it's sad. It's just you get used to seeing it. 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: I saw somebody mentioned this's Durning a Senior Bowl, and 39 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: I'd be going to senior Bowl. I think this is 40 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: my ninth Senior Bowl that I went to in twenty 41 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: twenty two. And you just have your local places that 42 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: you go in Mobile, and it's gotten the last couple 43 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: of years because of COVID. I've actually taken my family 44 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: down there and we stayed south of Mobile a Dauphin Islands, 45 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: so we get a place to the beach. But I 46 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: go to Mobile and you know, restaurants are there. Everything 47 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: you need is there, senior bowls. I mean, it's just 48 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: perfect in Mobile, and people want to move it on Mobile. 49 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, same thing in Indianapolis. I mean, I know 50 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: you can move it out to LA and it's gorgeous 51 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: and all that. Now I wouldn't mind La. And I'll 52 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: say this only because my daughter just went out there. 53 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: She's living out there now. My wife is actually out 54 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: there with her for a while. Um, So I wouldn't 55 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: mind it in LA, just because I can see family. 56 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: But it feels like we come up here and it's 57 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: like a big family. You and you kneel up to 58 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and we know where everything is and you can 59 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: stay inside even though it gets cold and you might 60 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: get snow sometimes, which is romantic in some sense. So 61 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: I love it. People in Houston know how I feel 62 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: about to combine, and they would say romances is probably 63 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: a word that goes with it, because how much I 64 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: love it, it would make me sad. I think we 65 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: make a lot of people sad. I think it's very convenient. 66 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: I said this to the guys. You take a shuttle 67 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: from the airport to your hotel and that's the last 68 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: time you have to get into a vehicles or a coat. Yeah, 69 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: if you really want it too, absolutely so you can. 70 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: You can pack light in some sense, and don't You 71 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: don't have to drive around you have to deal with 72 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of places it wouldn't quite 73 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: be that way. And this, this place has always put 74 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: on a really great event, whether it's a cold Sunday 75 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: or whether it's a combine or whether it's the Final four. Um, 76 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have been here last year 77 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: for the basketball tournament. It was great, It was awesome, 78 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: and the Coups got to the Final four. And that exactly. 79 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I saw them play Rutgers. I saw them play on Sunday, 80 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Man and they're just Kelvin Sampson has done a great job. 81 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: And I know for some people up here that's it's 82 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: not a bad it's a bad thing. But Kelvin's done night. Yeah, Yeah, 83 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: Kelvin done some really good thanks for Houston, So that 84 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: would have been really really cool to be a part 85 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: of that event. But yeah, it would make me sad 86 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: to see the thing leave here. Here's a funny story 87 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: about the Final Four. I think I may have told 88 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: you this. I wanted to go to Lucas Oil Stadium 89 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: just to watch a game. I wanted to see the setup, 90 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: just the infrastructure, like how cool it was they divided 91 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: the stadium into two different courts. So I bought a 92 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: ticket to the Rutgers Houston game, which was played at 93 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium, I think on a Sunday night, Round 94 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: two maybe second second, yeah, first weekend, but round two, 95 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: and again I live close, So I packed my five 96 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: year old into the car because I just wanted to 97 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: see the game. Like, I have no rooting interests, I 98 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: have no skin in the in the fight here, So 99 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I packer in the car. We come down to the 100 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: first half. We're sitting all the way up in the 101 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: upper deck, like the last the last section that I 102 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: just bought the cheapest ticket because I wanted to see 103 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: how it was set up. That was really all I 104 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: wanted to see. So we stayed for the first half. 105 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: We left at halftime, she got a bath and was 106 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: told a bedtime story before the game was over. That's nice. Yeah, so, 107 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, but it just it just goes to show 108 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: like all of these cool things are in our backyard, 109 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: they're in our city. They're so close, and we get 110 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: to experience them. And that's why I'm very disappointed that 111 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I think the combines on the move and you know, 112 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: these face to face conversations that we're having, John, I 113 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: don't know if they're if they're going to happen to 114 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: combine exactly. I mean, that's one of the things I 115 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: think about the combine for the people that come to 116 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: the combin because I was asked by by a friend 117 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: of mine, why do you guys go to the combine? 118 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, but what I wanted to 119 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: tell him was I got to see my friends around 120 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: the league, because this is now my my eighth combine, 121 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: and I've gotten to know the radio cruise from around 122 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: the league. Got to know you guys, got to know obviously, 123 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: you know Frank, I coached in Jacksonville for for a while, 124 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: so I've known Frank for the longest. Franzie at Jacksonville 125 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: and you know Mike Keith who down at the Senior Bowl, 126 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: we had got a chance to chop it up. And 127 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: we saw Jeff Joniak in a hotel today and played 128 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: by Playboice of the Bears, and we'll play them in 129 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Chicago this year, and so we chatted him up. And 130 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: so you just have this big sort of NFL family reunion. 131 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the it's the biggest smallest fraternity in 132 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: the world. And you go to a game and whoever 133 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: you're playing, there's a player that knows a player because 134 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: they played in college, they played in high school, or 135 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: they played together with the Jets and now they're you know, 136 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: on the Colts and the Texans, and you have all 137 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and then you see players that 138 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: you got accustomed to. So we went to Arizona this 139 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: year and I mean, I hadn't seen Hop since the trade, 140 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: since he had been traded. I hadn't seen jj Uh 141 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: since he had, you know, asked for his release. And 142 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: seeing both of them on the field and Cardinals colors 143 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: just like, oh my goodness. And it made me think 144 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: about the combine in that way because we get to 145 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: see everybody. Everybody's here in one central location. You know 146 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: they're not driving from well, we're staying out in El 147 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Segundo and we're coming from you know, Huntington Beach, and 148 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's right walk. Yeah, I mean everybody is 149 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: right here. You never know who you're gonna seen a 150 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: hotel because you're you're taking all the tunnels and everything, 151 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: and it's just it is the I didn't understand it 152 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: for a long time until so I got with the 153 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Texans in fourteen and came here, and they came here 154 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: from my first combine in fifteen, and I realized, Wow, 155 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: this is a I can see why this is a 156 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: great event. So I told I totally and completely got 157 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: at that point. And it's changed then, yeah. Yeah, and 158 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: it's just gotten bigger and better. I mean, it's it's 159 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: an incredible place to happen. I know people are like, wait, Indianpose, Yeah, Indianpolis. 160 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: It's a great sports town to come here for events 161 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: for sure. So I hope stays here. All right. You've 162 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: got the the Harris one hundred and it's on football 163 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: takeover dot com? What is it? Pub it up? Because 164 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: that's really good stuff. Yeah, it's uh, it's my top 165 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: one hundred draft prospects. I got one hundred through two 166 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: hundred coming. I'm working on it. I think I've got 167 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: him ranked. I just have got to be able to 168 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: put a little snippet for each one. But I just 169 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: essentially go through. And it was funny, niiccessary. It was 170 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: giving me some grief. The other day. We're kind of 171 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: talking about it, and uh, he looked at me. At 172 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: some point. We have a defensive tacklate. We just drafted 173 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one who was arguably our best rookie 174 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: named Ray Lopez, and Roy did a really nice job 175 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: for us, and he was kind of going. He was like, well, 176 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: you didn't have Roy Lopez in your hundred, And I 177 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: was like, you didn't draft him in the honey. We 178 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: were both right, so um, you know, it's different in 179 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: some sense the fact that when I do the hundred, 180 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: I do it for everybody. If I were doing it 181 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: just for us, there would be a number of players. 182 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, we're not these guys are these 183 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: guys would be out We're not looking at these particular 184 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: guys right, and I would scale it down. But because 185 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: it's just a all encompassing you know, if any team 186 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: picked it up, this would be how I would rank 187 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: those particular players. And so I try and I try 188 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: and base it on as as much as that possibly 189 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: can what I think that player is going to do 190 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: going forward into the NFL. And twenty eighteen, quintn Nelson 191 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: was that guy. He was number one for me. Um 192 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: Larry Mean Tunson was that guy. In twenty sixteen. Now 193 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: I knew those guys weren't gonna go number one. I 194 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: thought Larry had a chance, and then of course you 195 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: know what happened with Larry me with the video and such. 196 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Um Man, I knew Quentintinon wasn't gonna go number one, 197 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: but to me, he was the best player and best 198 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: prospect in that particular draft. I was just hoping he 199 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: was going to go well before six. Now I've got 200 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: to see him twice a year, and even with a 201 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: bum ankle, I saw him this year, and I thought 202 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: that was what was interesting about watching you guys, is like, 203 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, Quinton and Darius are hurt all year long, 204 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: and you watch them and they're still dominant, and you 205 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: and I know watching them, like those guys are hurting, 206 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: like you can see it. I mean, they're they're walking 207 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: right and they're still dominating the game, and it shows 208 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: you how good At twenty eighteen draft, it was especially 209 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: throwing in Braydon Smith as well. So so yeah, at 210 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: the top of my list, I know, you know, people 211 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: in this area of course loved themselves some Notre Dame 212 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: football and Kyle Hamilton's safety from Notre Dame to me 213 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: is um, I know I'm a little bit older than 214 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: than than you guys. I don't know if you remember 215 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: a guy the name of Sean Taylor played with the 216 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: Washington Yeah. So Sean Taylor was a guy I loved, 217 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: grew when I was coaching in Florida. He was a 218 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: senior the Gulliver Prep and was watching a I was 219 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: watching a highlight show. We had just clinched the district 220 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: for the first time in school history, and so I 221 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: felt like that was going to be on the show, 222 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: and so they were. They gave it a little tease 223 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: that it was coming, and they're like, before we go 224 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: to Episcopal, let's take a look at Sean Taylor. And 225 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I was like, Sean Taylor. I look up. I was like, 226 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: what about us? And I watched on Taylor. Oh my god, 227 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: can I see more Sean Taylor? And so that's one 228 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: of my love affair with a guy that was sixty three, 229 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: two hundred twenty pounds grew and I realized Kyle Hamilton's 230 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: the closest thing to Sean Taylor I've ever seen. Yeah, 231 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean I've seen players that have been good. I've 232 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: not seen anybody like that. And so he's at number one, 233 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: um and eight, Hudson's that number two, and then we 234 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: pick a number three. So they gets kind of exciting, 235 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: and um, right now I've got to have a new 236 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: at three, key quantum at four. So those four to 237 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: me kind of I think those four are set apart 238 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: from everybody else. I think those four the top four. 239 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I think you can you know there'll be some cases 240 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: made for Cabon Thibodeaux. I love Tyler Lenderbaum. He's actually 241 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: six for me. I love him. I know he's an 242 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: I know he's not going six. I know it. But 243 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: as a football player and a guy that's gonna have 244 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: a long career, I look at Tyler Linderbaum and I 245 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: think he's probably you know, when I watched Ryan Kelly, 246 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep it close to home and 247 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: I think of Ryan Kelly, I think of Tyler Lenderbaum. 248 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: I think Kelly was a little bit bigger and thicker 249 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: and probably can hold up a little bit better gets size, 250 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: But I think linder Bam is a little bit quicker 251 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: and just a little bit nastier leverage wise than Ryan. 252 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: So he's he's the highest rank center I've ever had, 253 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: and he's incredible. But I think it's those four, and 254 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: then I think it's Thibodeau, lender Baum, and then kind 255 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: of everybody else at that point. So it seems like 256 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of a four person draft and we're sitting 257 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: at three. So maybe we get one of those guys, 258 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: maybe we trade out. We've got a certain situation that's 259 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: got to be figured out the quarterback position, whether there's 260 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: a trade there, and how that goes down. So hopefully 261 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: we walk out of this draft with one of those 262 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: four and then a few other good players are starting 263 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: this thing built back where we had a few years ago. Yeah, now, 264 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: sticking with this, I hope it's not two inside. Um, 265 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, you at the combine, when you look at 266 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: what you're doing for your what what are you looking for? 267 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: You know, if you're if you're talking to people, what 268 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: are you looking for to help when you're ranking these players? 269 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me is to open 270 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: my ears and listen. And that sounds weird, but that's 271 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of the former teacher and me is to listen 272 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: because they'll tell you some things. If you're just listening. 273 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: They'll tell you whether they work hard, they'll tell you 274 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: whether they you know, listen to how often they used 275 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: the word I I I. I like listening to the guys. 276 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: And you know, when you hear the good ones, they'll say, 277 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: we we did this, we did that, you know, I remember, 278 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: And it's it's funny because there's Braden Smith. So what 279 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm so Braden had signed up and I don't know 280 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: how he did it, but he did this thing where 281 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: he was doing bench press reps for a chair. You like, 282 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: how many other reps he did. A charity was getting 283 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: like one hundred bucks or something like that, and I 284 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: think he did like thirty five reps or something. And 285 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: so the charity I think he was doing it for 286 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: a had either to do with kids or autism. And 287 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: my son has high functioning autism, and so I just 288 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: made it a point to walk over there to say hey, 289 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: why are you doing this? And I don't ask questions 290 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: a lot of times a guys, but I just thought 291 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: that that meant a lot to me personally. So I 292 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: walked over and I just said, hey, why are you 293 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? And he gave a really 294 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: good answer, and then I just said I said thank you, 295 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: and he said you're welcome, sir, And I just thought 296 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: it was just the way that he went. I was like, 297 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't I don't care. If I 298 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: don't care that guy's a guard or attack, I'll take him, 299 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, at that point. But I like to listen 300 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: to some of these guys because they'll sometimes they'll tell 301 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: you without even realizing what they're saying, like, Okay, this 302 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: guy's telling me something and I can I can grab 303 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: onto it. I love the workouts. I just love to 304 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: see good athletes do great, great things and then sometimes 305 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: you grab a nugget out of there that you could 306 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: can end up help not only my site, but also 307 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: the Texans too. And I told the story I told 308 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: us the other day. We're market I did radio last night. 309 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: We're talking about some of our combine Um stories and 310 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: so the combined in twenty sixteen, and this was back 311 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: when I was in the West Club, yep. And so 312 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: we're all jammed in there and they've got like that 313 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: sucked by the way. It was on the top of 314 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: each other. And so there were three posts on the floor. Yeah, 315 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: that's what it felt like. There were three podiums, and 316 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: then there were a bunch of tables where they put 317 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: some guys at the podium, you know, the bigger guys. 318 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: At that point, it was like Mariota and Golf. They 319 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: all went to the podium and so um no, that 320 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: was golf and Wanzo went through podiums, and so at 321 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: the tables they had different players. And so there happened 322 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: to be a medium member going around to the different tables, 323 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: and he would go to the tables and say, hey, 324 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: I'll fast, you can run forty and guys are like, 325 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: oh dude, I'm around forty three. I'm under forty three, 326 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: and I look at got go you're four five at best. Bro. 327 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: So everybody's just lying. So Will Fuller is sitting at 328 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: the table and I'm sitting basically from me and a 329 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: Mataway and that same guy comes around and he just 330 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: he waits for I could see him at the corner. 331 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm like per cams. So he goes, he will, I'll fast, 332 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: you run forty and without missing a beat. And for 333 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: anybody that knows Will, Will does not like to talk, 334 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: like those interviews are like pulling teeth. But he's doing 335 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: a good job. I mean, he was seemed to be 336 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: relaxed for the most part, and that guy asked him 337 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: without missing him beat, he goes four three two. He 338 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: went to Notre Dame, so he should know. I was like, 339 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: WHOA Like some of these other guys are like, ooh no, man, 340 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: I think I can run a four two. Like there 341 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: was one guy actually ended up being a Texan. He 342 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: ended up run like four four one. Yeah. It was fast. Yeah, 343 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: but he's like I'm being four two ranch. I'm like, man, 344 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: you know how fast you gotta be in at four two? 345 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: Will goes four three two. So that was a that 346 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: was on a Thursday. We left on Friday. He runs 347 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: on Saturday at like eight thirty in the morning, right, 348 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: and that son of a buck runs four three one, 349 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, holy smoked. I mean I about four 350 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: three two because I knew he's fast, but I was like, 351 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: in four three two's fast, but he was on it 352 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: and so draft night, I was like, I got a 353 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: story tell you guys. So I told that, you know, 354 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: we do radio for like eighteen hours over the weekend 355 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: on draft and so that was that was a great 356 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: story to share it. So, in typical Will fashion, I 357 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: told I told him that story and asked, he goes? 358 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I said, you remember that he goes. Yeah. I was 359 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: always said yeah, he goes. And then I said, well 360 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: did you And I didn't even know what to ask 361 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: him at that point. I thought he would elaborate, and 362 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: I said, did you think you were on it at 363 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: four three two? He said, well yeah, I mean that's 364 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: why I told him. John, I thin kind of I 365 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: was like, okay, good, let's get off that. But yeah, 366 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: it was so you know, you get a little, you know, 367 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: a little story here there, and you know then then 368 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: there's always you know, kind of local kids, you know, 369 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: of course local kids and Houston guys that come from Houston. 370 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: You know Jaylen Petrus from Stafford High School. Um, we'll 371 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: be here and you want to see how he does. 372 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: And you kind of hear some of those stories too, 373 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: always like those, but you know, you just feel like 374 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: when you're here, You're just you know some you know 375 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: uh Rappaport or Peli Sorrow drops a bomb and you're like, dude, 376 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: I was like like three feet from I was like 377 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: to Casey, that was like right there. I heard the 378 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: same thing. That feel like you're you're kind of right there. 379 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing for me is I 380 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: just listen. Yeah, I just listen what they say, and 381 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: you can tell some of the guys that are you know, fos. 382 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: I can't say what the S is, but you can 383 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: figure it out. There's some guys that are that that 384 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: have been coached up, they know what to say, and 385 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: then there's some guys that are just completely and totally 386 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: genuine You're like, Okay, I can go to bath for 387 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: that guy. It's John Harris. He's the football analyst for 388 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Very tied into the draft. He's also 389 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: the owner of football takeover dot com. So let's go 390 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: big picture on this draft and kind of tie that 391 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: into the Colts as well. They don't have the first 392 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: round pick. They gave that up last year for Carson Wentz. 393 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Is that a detriment to their team building or can 394 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: they withstand that given how deep the draft is. There's 395 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: not right, it's not top heavy with elite talent in 396 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, I mean not having a first 397 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: round pick is. It's it's frustrating because they would have 398 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: been in that spot where if they wanted to take 399 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: a quarterback in this group with nineteen twenty somewhere in 400 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: that range, I think you could have said, Okayage, Yeah, 401 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think maybe that would be okay. 402 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: This is not that draft where you're going to find 403 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: that guy right away. And I'm being on windows. You 404 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: know how long a window can can stay open, correct, 405 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: And you know, our window obviously kind of got slammed 406 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: shut with some of the things that we had going 407 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: on the last couple of years. But we felt like 408 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: we had a window open for a while because Deshaun 409 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: was a younger quarterback. I look at the Colts and say, wow, 410 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: it's the other way around. It's all the talent that's 411 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: around that if you PLoP the right quarterback in there. 412 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: And I know that's what what Chris and Frank were 413 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: trying to do by bringing in Carson that hey, if 414 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: he finds what he had in twenty seventeen. But we're 415 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: on our way, but where that gets dicey as obviously 416 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: if it doesn't happen, then you're left kind of holding 417 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: the bag. Now, I'll give you the the I don't 418 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: stop stop story in some sense, but there is some 419 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: hope kind of. We were in the same situation after 420 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. We went and got brock Oswiler, paid him 421 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot of money at the time, and we had 422 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: to give up We give up a second round pick, 423 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: but we were not where we could give up picks 424 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: and be good with it. But we give up a 425 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: second round pick um and signed him with a lot 426 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: of money, and oh my gosh, it just was it 427 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: was not good. I mean, you guys saw it. It It 428 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: was not good. But yeah, we made the playoffs and 429 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: we want a playoff game. But it was just twice yeah, 430 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: oh boy um and so yeah. While but it was 431 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: also a shoulder injury going on that as well. Yes 432 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: there was, Yes, that's true. We were I hated seeing 433 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: that for him, but to help us win games, it 434 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: was okay. Anyways, The point being when Osswiler, we knew 435 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: it didn't work, and we're going, what do we do? Yeah, like, 436 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? What we were sitting at 437 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: twenty five in a draft, and mock drafts would come 438 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: out and somehow somebody would push down to the Homes 439 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: or Watson to us in the draft, and we're like, 440 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: that ain't happening. We're not getting all of these quarterbacks. 441 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? I mean, we're stuck. And 442 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: then it was like, oh, we're gonna get Tony Romo, 443 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: and then of course he retired and so we were 444 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: just lost. And then on draft day Rick makes the 445 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: move up, Rick Smith or GM maybe we up to 446 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: go get Shaun Watson and we're like, whoa, No, nobody 447 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: saw it coming. And so we're like, holy smokes, Now 448 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: there wasn't Deshaun Watson go get. There wasn't Patrick Mahomes 449 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: to go get. Yeah. I don't know if that guy 450 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: is in this particular draft. But the advantage from the 451 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: cold standpoint is if they do end up getting a 452 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: young quarterback. Let's say you take Malik Willis, and I 453 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: don't know if that's the kind of guy that that 454 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: Chris will want, But if you take a guy like 455 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: Malik Willis, he's got the biggest crutch in the world, 456 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: and that is a tremendous offensive line, some very good 457 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: receiving weapons and Johnson Taylor and as you have that, 458 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: that's going to give you an advantage to allow a 459 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: young quarterback to grow. Problem is, I don't think that's 460 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: going to be available where they're gonna end up first 461 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: picking us their first pick in the fifty seven. Now, 462 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: could there be a Sam Howe there? Potentially? Could there 463 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: be a Carson Strong there? Yes, I just don't know 464 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: that that answer is going to be enough for a 465 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: team that really needs that window open. I would expect 466 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Chris to be pretty active in the free agent market 467 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: if there any quarterback gets there. Um, outside of quarterback 468 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: or just quarterback, I mean, I think in the draft, 469 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: from the draft perspective, I think finding somebody opposite Xavier 470 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: Rhodes is key. I think another playmaking weapon depending on 471 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if t wise contract status, 472 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: but he's a free agent. You can't play us sixteen 473 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: seventeen games a year, he'd be, you know, and he's 474 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: contemplating retirement. Well yeah, well thank god. But I think 475 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: I think a playmaking weapon at receiver would help them. 476 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, having somebody opposite Xavier Roads. I 477 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: thought Rock would be that guy. I don't know that 478 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: he's he's become what Ballard thought he would be. Um, 479 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: I love a guy that Kyer, I elam. He's a 480 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: lot like Xavier Rhodes. I think at forty seven be 481 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: that'd be a tremendous spot for him. I have him, 482 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: I think in the thirties or forties, I think, but 483 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: I've watched him again. I think, Man, I don't know. 484 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't get out of the first round, but 485 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that I would think could 486 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: end up there. Those are a couple of spots if 487 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: they decide not to go quarterback. If I were Ballard, 488 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: I call it. I call it the Packers and see, 489 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: all right, you guys keeping Rodgers. Yeah, what about Jordan Love. 490 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: It's a weird, strange thought, but maybe you give him 491 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: forty seven and they'll part with Jordan Love. Maybe. And 492 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: then it's a guy that's been a league for a 493 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: couple of years. He hasn't played a lot, but he's 494 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: a young guy. And if you start to see signs 495 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: now a sudden, you got hope that you can get 496 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: there very quickly because you got a dual threat athletic 497 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: quarterback that can get you somewhere. So that to me 498 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be the interesting part for him this offseason. 499 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: How he's gonna go about it if Carson and then 500 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: it feels like Carson's not the guy going forward, So 501 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: how do you rectify that? I think you've been staying 502 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: in draft. I think at the forty seven range, guys 503 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: like Sam how Carson Strong, maybe even Desmond Ritter. Now 504 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: that would be an interesting one because Desmond's got a 505 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: lot of different things that I think teams are going 506 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: to like that. You can talk yourself into him being 507 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: a guy that you can build with. And I say 508 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: talk to yourself into it, because I do think twenty 509 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: two would be a little early for that to happen. Yeah, 510 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: but I do think he's a guy you could build with. 511 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: But if you did something in which you got a 512 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: quarterback that has some age, she's got some rings on 513 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: the tree, if you will, and you brought in a 514 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter that could learn a little bit maybe in 515 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: a year or so, you'd have a succession plan and 516 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: a way you go. And I think that's with this 517 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: window that they have open and available right now, they've 518 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: got to have somebody immediately. I don't know that quarterback 519 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: is there to do it, but if they can find 520 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: a piece to get him started, I think there is 521 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: a young quarterback that they can build with going forward. Now, 522 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: I know we've talked about how you know, you just 523 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: mentioned there maybe not be that quarterback in that first round, 524 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: but it seems like year in year out in the 525 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: NFL draft, guy's fall, guys rise. Now let's go non 526 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: quarterback division. So anybody else if you're looking at the 527 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: Colts there at forty seven, is there a guy you 528 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: see in the first round who's got you know, some 529 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: people great him this way, some people great? Is there 530 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: there are a couple of guys you see falling that 531 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: you can envision a team packaging something to go get 532 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: that kind of guy. Let's say it's a corner, because 533 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at more you know, your your top tier positions, 534 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: whether it's a corner, defensive end. Are there any of 535 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: those guys that could be back in first round picks? 536 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: You may not have to give up as much to 537 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: move up and get one of those guys the first round. 538 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: In the first round, good in the first round. Don't 539 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: have a first round pick? Yeah, I mean it's a 540 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: you know how your elim was the first one that 541 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: came to mind, because I think I think people have 542 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: sort of soured on him for some reason. And I'm 543 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: not totally sure why he's got all his size, why 544 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I should I do know why. I mean he's there 545 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: have been games where he just is an uninterested just 546 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter. But now he's facing Jameson 547 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: Williams of Florida or Alabama, he's all about it. So 548 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: how your could be could be one of those guys. Um. 549 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of people that that 550 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: love um Bernard Raymond from out of central Michigan. I 551 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know that I do, but 552 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: I could see and you guys don't think are gonna 553 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: end up needing off his line. But that's another one 554 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: that's that strikes me. If you're looking for a playmaking receiver, 555 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: I think one that I have kind of right. I 556 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: think he's thirty three or thirty four. If you're looking 557 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: for a playmaking receiver. I love Johan Dotson from Penn State, 558 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: and I think he's the kind of guy that you 559 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: could put with Pittman, and I think he would fit 560 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: because Dotson could play out of the slot. He also 561 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: could play wide. There's a lot of things you can 562 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: do schematically with a guy with those kind of hands 563 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: and that kind of speed in the slot. Now, he's 564 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: not your typical kind of slot I'm on Ross Saint Brown, 565 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, kind of kind of quit guy, you know, 566 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: quick cuts, those kind of things. But he's got tremendous 567 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: hands and he can create a lot of mismatches by 568 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: going inside. And you can also put him outsie because 569 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: he's got speed you get on the field. So if 570 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: you're looking offensive playmaker, I think that ends up being 571 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: a guy. But to me at corner it's Kyer Elham. 572 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: Now I'm also curious to see where Derek Stingley goes. 573 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: Stingley is going to be a fascinating case study in 574 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: this because he really hasn't played since twenty nineteen. Really, 575 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: he's got unbelievable assets and traits. He's not gonna work 576 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: out at the combine, he's been hurt, he's like everything. 577 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: The scouts are just like, oh, it drives them crazy. 578 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: But the flip side of this is this dude is 579 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: incredibly talented, So I don't think he gets pushed all 580 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: the way down to the bottom of the first round. 581 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: You know, he starts getting moved down the board. I'm 582 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: sure that Belichick is just like, come on, we'll take him. Well, 583 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: do you guys are gonna let Derek Stingley come to us. 584 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: We'll at JC Jackson Walk and we'll just get this guy. 585 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: And this guy is gonna end up being better. So 586 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: he The corner position is I think really interesting one 587 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: to watch because I could see any number of guys 588 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: that kind of fall out of you know, teams fall 589 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: to love. They're like, we don't love these corners. And 590 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: the other part of it is too with corners, the 591 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: philosophy of teams like for us, you know, we're lovey Smith. 592 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: You know Tampa two Defense, We're not one that you know, 593 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: plays a ton of press man like we got like 594 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: we've got to have a lockdown corner. It's kind of 595 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: the forty nineers lost too. Forty nine ers don't put 596 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stock in going and getting corners because 597 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: they just go get the guys in front exactly. They 598 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: were at the Boss and the jamal Kenlaws and Armstead 599 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: and Buckner, which you guys obviously read the benefits of. 600 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: They go out and they get those guys and then 601 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: they get the corners a little bit later in the draft, 602 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: and so what I think that's doing also is also 603 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: pushing guys down. So if corner ends up being a 604 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: spot that they would look at, then I think they 605 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: will have their pick of a couple or three guys 606 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: that are going to be really really interesting at that point. 607 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: Running games tremendous, obvious, the line, running back fine. I 608 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: think an offensive playmaker, you know, t Y obviously up 609 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: there in years wasn't giving them as much. But you 610 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 1: put somebody opposite Michael Pittman with some juice down the 611 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: field that gets really exciting. But defensively always, And I 612 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 1: told Ballard the Senior Bowl a couple of years ago, 613 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: is like, you guys need a corner, so you're gonna 614 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: draft the corner. And he's like, nah, nah, it's pretty good, Ballard, 615 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: it's not bad. That's pretty good. Nah. We went with 616 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: the big guys, Johnny, and then he drafts Rocky. Scene 617 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: went up front here, you got the text. It was like, yeah, right, 618 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: so and he's coached the secondary before he knows how. 619 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: And you know, when Xavier was right the last couple 620 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: of years, you know Xavier could be pretty tough. You 621 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: put receivers in a bind, and I could see them 622 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: getting another guy at that particular spot. Get black men 623 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: off injury. You know, Carr I think has done some 624 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: really good things for the most part. Yeah, I feel 625 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: like corner and playmaker are the two spots where you 626 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: think they'll go. I mean, obviously quarterback, I mean that's 627 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: where do you guys think they'll go. Well, I mean 628 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: you're looking at long term answers, at premium positions, and 629 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: I've I've said that till I'm blue in the face, 630 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: ye the last two months, and left tackle too, left tackle, 631 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean, john that the Colts were the 632 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: only team in the NFL that had one player over 633 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: four hundred yards and that was it. That hadn't happened 634 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty eight for the Colts as a franchise. 635 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: They didn't have two receivers over four hundred yards receiving, right, So, 636 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Johnathan, it was very much Jonathan Taylor centric 637 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: and rightfully so. But yeah, No, I mean you're you're 638 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: looking at unfortunately without a first round pick, and you 639 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: need we're still unfortunately for the cults, you're still talking 640 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: about the same things you were talking about this past 641 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: off season with who's gonna play quarterback? Is t Y 642 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Hilton coming back? Who's you know, do you have enough 643 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: firepower at wide receiver? Who's gonna play left tackle? Last 644 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: year was Anthon Gastanzo. This year it's Eric Fisher. Who's 645 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: another free agent. I'll give you a guy that I've 646 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: It just hit me when we were talking about left tackles. 647 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: I think he is mouldiple Clay. I don't think he 648 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: is quite there. But when I think about a Quintin 649 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: Nelson Tyler Smith combination. Tyler Smith's left tackle of Tulsa 650 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: and I've I've watched him probably two three games. Name 651 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: gets called for holding every now and again, but I 652 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: was watching him against Oklahoma stated it's on YouTube, and 653 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: I just saw some guy had spliced out he had 654 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: done the Oklahoma Stayed offense. I'm sorry, the Tulsa offense 655 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: goes to Oklahoma State defense. It was like ten minutes long, 656 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: and I just just kind of killing time and I'd 657 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: put it on and it's just a game copy and 658 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, he's wanted to fight every play. 659 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's just that mentality that Quinton 660 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: has that you then would have in a tackle. I 661 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: have him at forty two. Danny Jeremiah's put him in 662 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: the first round of his mock draft, and I think, man, 663 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: he's not polished, but he is tough. He is strong, heavy, 664 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, just the type of guy that you want, 665 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: a tackle that just takes souls. But the Colts don't 666 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: want projects in the first or second round. They want projects, 667 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: they want plugging an He's a project, but he's he 668 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: needs some polish. But I think he's the kind of 669 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: guy that they could do something with, especially in that 670 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: run game, because they do want to run the ball 671 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: as much as they do. I think they can work 672 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: through some of those rustpops because as a run blocker, 673 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: he's taking linebackers and putting him in the jeep seats. 674 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: I think this is a good draft for tackles and 675 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: balancing where they're drafting, and like you said, having somebody 676 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: that's ready to play, it's gonna be tough. But if 677 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: you have a guy that has the mindset to be 678 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: able to do that. To me, a guy like Tyler Smith, 679 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: if he ends up with you, guys, I'll be ticked 680 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: on draft night. Trust me. When when I heard Michael 681 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: Pittman's name called second round, I'm like, man Ballard, that 682 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: gumm it. So the one that kills me, the one 683 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: that kills me. The one that kills me is Jonathan Taylor. 684 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: Because I had Taylor at sixteen and my Harris one 685 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: hundred and I was just we had a We had 686 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: a social media director that was a Wisconsin Badger and 687 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: he and I were in the same office and we 688 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: used to talk about putting to Sean. Jonathan Taylor's like, 689 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: there's no way. Yeah. I was like, he's gonna be 690 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: gone by the time we get like, Jesse, it's not 691 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. Well, he ended up 692 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: going to the Kanse Royals. Jesse did our social media 693 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: director and so draft night, it gets to forty and 694 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: he texts me, He's like he's still there. I'm like, 695 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: and then the Colts trade up. I honestly I asked 696 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: five people during the combine that year, why is Jonathan 697 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: Taylor so low? Because you look at what he did. 698 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: I just didn't understand it. And I mean clearly, in 699 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one he showed who was it Clyde. It 700 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: was at Edwards he was only running back and run 701 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: one that year. Yeah. Right, And and look Clyde's got yeah, 702 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's got definite he's got definite future in 703 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: this game. But we're sitting there, we're at forty. We're forty. 704 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: We took Ross Blacklock and I you know, look, Ross 705 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: has flashed at certain times, but what we have lacked 706 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: for two years is a run game. Now, would Jonathan 707 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: had have had as much success behind our offensive line 708 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: as he did with yall? But here's the thing. Here's 709 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: the thing about Jonathan Taylor, and we've all seen it. 710 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: He makes yards when there are no yards to be made. 711 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: You're making my point. Yeah, you're making my point, Matt. 712 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: We could have used a few of those, We could 713 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: have used the feelings. And here's the other here's the 714 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: other offshoot that that forty, that number forty pick came 715 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: as a result of trade DeAndre Hopkins. And so you 716 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: want a bigger return there, Yeah, absolutely, And Taylor would 717 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: have at least softened the blowshot trade. And what we 718 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: got back in that trade was Ross, who you know, 719 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: had been hurt for a year then had a decent 720 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: year and has really kind of been trying to find 721 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: his footing. And then we also got David Johnson that deal, 722 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: and David was well past the expiration date and and 723 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: and yet still trying to force feed him the ball 724 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: to kind of trying and make that trade. Look, but 725 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: if that had that been Jonathan Taylor and we got, 726 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, some other pieces instead of David Johnson. The 727 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: other pick we traded was to get Brandon Cooks. So 728 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: now all of a a sudden you look at and say, well, 729 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: we traded hop and we got Cooks and we got 730 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, well, you know, but you know, sometimes 731 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: you got you live and learn and then you watch 732 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: that mistake face you twice a year, and it's a killer. Yeah, 733 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: it's a killer. You're a good dude, John Harris, right there, 734 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: football analyst for the Houston Texans. And because you're a 735 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: good dude, I'm going to ask you a question before 736 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: I ask you a question as we wrap up here. 737 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Do you want me to ask you about Deshaun Watson? 738 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Go ahead? Well, I mean I feel bad, So like 739 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: what go ahead? What? What what are we doing? What? What? What? 740 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: What's going on? Here's the thing nobody knows, absolutely nobody 741 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: has any idea because of of the legal situation, and 742 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: his lawyer came out. Russie Harden came out and said 743 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: last week at a hearing um that he requested to 744 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: try and buy buy a little bit more time. He 745 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: essentially said, the criminal situation will be um resolved apparently 746 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: in the next three weeks. Once there is some clarity 747 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: on that, then I think there will be some sort 748 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: of movement. What that movement will be, we don't know. 749 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: It just stays on the hot stove until somebody makes 750 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: makes a move, but it is definitely something that it's 751 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: it's hung over us all. I mean, it's how how 752 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: far back did it set the Texans? Can you put 753 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: into words? I mean, is it? I mean it's years. 754 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, yeah, it's tough. And when you 755 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: feel like you've got a top five quarterback in the 756 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: league at a minimum maybe top three, right, and then 757 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: it's just it's just gone. It's not only not only 758 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: that it's gone, it's lingering and you can't get any 759 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: benefit back for it, and that all year long. And 760 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: then of course the training camp situation where it was 761 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: like you know, you gotta training camp, you gotta be there, 762 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: and then he's getting frustrated. He's saying to the media, 763 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: who treated him very very well while y'all filming me, 764 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: it's the same leap every day. I mean it, it's 765 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: just it was tough. Once this season started, the games 766 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: are going on, it was hard, but you just got 767 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: ready for the next game. You just kept going week 768 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: and you knew that the trade deadline was gonna be 769 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: dicey because then it was gonna get brought back up again. 770 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: And then of course it was, oh, it's gonna it's 771 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: a deal's done. And I was actually told by a 772 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: couple of friends of mine in Houston the deal was done. Yeah, 773 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: and then it was So it's going to continue to 774 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: linger and hopefully there's some clarity that comes with this 775 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: criminal situation, but it really has has loomed so large, 776 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: and I think just moving away from I think, you know, 777 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: we had a game against the Chargers on a twenty six, 778 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: the day after Christmas, and Charges a good football team. 779 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean they were, they were and not even a 780 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: minute were seconds away from going to the playoffs. And 781 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: we housed him that day and it was interesting because 782 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: the fans just kind of let out all their emotions. 783 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: Tavier Thomas had a pick six at the end that 784 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: sealed it essentially in the place went ballistic. I mean, 785 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: I was on the sideline losing my mind. I mean, 786 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: it's a four and thirteen team, we're running a third, 787 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: We're running our fourth game of the year, and I'm 788 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: losing my mind to the sidelines because that just it 789 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: was such a hard It was like all the emotion 790 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: of all that year was just coming out right. Just 791 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, Mark's call was just like, I mean, it 792 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: was a dafter Christmas is just everything. It was just 793 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: that was kind of the feeling that we had lost 794 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: because all that loom so large. Getting Lovey Smith back 795 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: is definitely going to help and adding a few more pieces. 796 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, Davis playing better. He didn't play great against 797 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: you guys, obviously, but you know, played better at the 798 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: end of the year, starts showing some progress that got 799 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: people excited about what maybe he can do in twenty 800 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: twenty two at a minimum, and then if we can 801 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: get some clarity on de Shaun and his situation, then 802 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: we'll hopefully all be able to move on. I think 803 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: everybody is at a point where it's like, let's shake hands. 804 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: Let's move on, let's go. This is a this is 805 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: a hard question to answer because I don't think anybody 806 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: really knows it except for those that are making the decisions. 807 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: But when you look at he set out an entire year, 808 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: does that at all decrease that trade value? Or is 809 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: it you've seen what he's done. It wasn't like he 810 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: was injured. It was a full year he does. Do 811 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: you think that at all will impact what the return 812 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: is going to be. I mean, if you if you 813 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: look at it as let's say he was injured, but 814 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: it was an injury that you could come back from, right, 815 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I think it would kind of be the same thought process. 816 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: Now you sit out of the second year. Now okay, 817 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: now it gets a little dicey, but I think a 818 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: year okay, but you know it's set out more than 819 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: half of his rookie year with the DCL. Right then 820 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: he was there eighteen nineteen twenty. Now I said a 821 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. So I do think there will be 822 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: a team that says, yeah, we're not We think there 823 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: might be a little bloom off the Rows, but they're 824 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: gonna be other teams gone that guy's dumb. We're gonna go. 825 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: This guy will be fine, right, This guy would be fine. 826 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: He's twenty seven, He's got plenty of football ahead of him. 827 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: I think it's just got to a point where if 828 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: the legal situation can be resolved. And I say all that, 829 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: and we always in Houston kind of prefs it all 830 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: with we understand the gravity of the situation. Oh absolutely 831 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: all of us do. But we talk football and that's 832 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: what we do. We understand the gravity of that. If 833 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: it can get resolved, there will be some teams that 834 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: will be like, yeah, no doubt. I don't know if 835 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: they'll get all the way to to the asking price, 836 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: because I mean, you know how it is. Hey, I'll 837 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: sell you my reader glasses for a million dollars. Okay, 838 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get a million. I don't know if 839 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: it's that drastic, But nobody's ever had or been put 840 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: in an opportunity, in an opportunity or whatever you're gonna 841 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: call it, to trade a quarterback of this magnet sude. 842 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: So how do you even know what to base the 843 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: trade off of? Because I know when when Chris made 844 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: the trade with the Eagles, he based that trade off 845 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. There was like there was precedent there and 846 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: that's what he based that trade value off of. I 847 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: don't know what the trade value is supposed to be 848 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: based off of, so I think Nick Cassarios said this 849 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: is what we're looking for. Definitely we're gonna end up 850 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: getting it. And if we get continued good play from 851 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: Davis and we can reap in benefits of a trade 852 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: that's going to help us in the long run. And 853 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: hope we can get back and be in the mix 854 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: where the Colton Texas are playing for this thing every year, 855 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: No doubt a bat him. Man, you're a good guy. 856 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: John Harris right there than football takeover dot Com. He's 857 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: the football analyst for the Houston Texans. Enjoy the rest 858 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: of the combines. So appreciated, guys, thanks for having us