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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Danny and Samantha and welcome to stuff.

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Speaker 1: I never told you production about iHeart Radio. I was

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Speaker 1: a little gruffy, there was it. I was not you

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Speaker 1: meff Oh you know what gruffy is definitely a word. Well,

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Speaker 1: gruffy is just fine for this Happy Hour episode, which

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Speaker 1: is going to be a fun, interesting one. But I

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Speaker 1: do want to put a content morning in here. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be talking about sex toys, yes today,

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Speaker 1: so you know you might want to take a listen

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Speaker 1: if there's any younger people in your life that also listen,

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Speaker 1: which is so cool and hello, but you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: give it a listen before you let them check it out.

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Speaker 1: And he says, I it is with these Happy Hour episodes.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Drink responsibly if you choose

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Speaker 1: to do so. Samantha, what are you sipping on? I

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Speaker 1: decided to just be real. Is it basic for me

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Speaker 1: to do rum and diet coke with a little splash

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Speaker 1: of lime? Is that basically it sounds good to me?

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Speaker 1: Basic or not? It sounds lovely. I just see a

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Speaker 1: little something peppy like caffeine to go with the liquor portion.

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Speaker 1: But yes, this is what I'm drinking. For my winter cocktail.

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Speaker 1: That's not I think it's a cocktail all the way.

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Speaker 1: I in my continuing effort to get rid of some

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Speaker 1: things that I have a lot of them, drinking bourbon

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Speaker 1: and contro quintro contrue orange liqueur and lime and soda water.

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Speaker 1: Which is interesting because, as I told Samantha, my landlord,

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Speaker 1: at night. But yes, yes, so it's like a real

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Speaker 1: planning gang of things. Uh So, anyway, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: an interesting day for me because he I went to

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Speaker 1: go fill up my water and totally forgot. I can't

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Speaker 1: do it, can't do it right now. But yes, we

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Speaker 1: are talking about sex toys today, and this was on

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Speaker 1: my mind because I was just thinking something we talked

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Speaker 1: made me think about my experience buying my first sex toy,

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Speaker 1: and I was curious if that was most people's experiences.

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Speaker 1: So I have said before, I did not know women

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Speaker 1: could masturbate until college. Um, I think that's very demonstrative

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Speaker 1: as to how little we talk about women's pleasure and

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Speaker 1: women's bodies. But I did not know it was the thing.

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Speaker 1: And then when I was in college, I was going

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Speaker 1: to move to China, and a friend in China said, advice,

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Speaker 1: BI sex story and bring it with you. And so

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Speaker 1: I asked all of these women at a party for

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Speaker 1: their advice, and they all had these recommendations and all

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Speaker 1: these things I should look for. I happened to live

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Speaker 1: insurrection sex toy store, and the night I would see

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Speaker 1: the blue and pink flashing lights, and so I went

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Speaker 1: over there and I was just completely overwhelmed. And I

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Speaker 1: pretty sure, very obvious that I'd never been before, that

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Speaker 1: I didn't really know what I was doing. And I

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Speaker 1: chose something that was in my price range that looked easy,

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Speaker 1: but felt very like leering looking back. And I was

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Speaker 1: just thinking about that experience, and actually the six story

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Speaker 1: turned out to be great, Um, it was a great purchase,

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Speaker 1: but just thinking about that experience of buying it, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: to other obviously to other sex story stores, and I've

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Speaker 1: had some different experiences, and I've just felt better when

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Speaker 1: it's women who were the person selling, selling me on something,

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Speaker 1: or telling me about something. But what do you mind

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Speaker 1: sharing your first experience buying a sex story? So at

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Speaker 1: the so I have two different stories because I absolutely

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Speaker 1: very young age. We know this conversation moving on. However,

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Speaker 1: I was talking about pretty much my naive experience of like,

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Speaker 1: Of course, he felt very horrified that a college graduate

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Speaker 1: because off again Paris red Light district, they market this

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Speaker 1: and have someone searched through it, not doing it, not

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Speaker 1: and I've had some hit or missus. I will say

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Speaker 1: I can't help it. Look, I can't help it. Superpower

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Speaker 1: you know, if we were a different network, not a

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Speaker 1: different network, a different show, i'd share it. But one

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Speaker 1: quite a night. Now, I will say we've done past

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I know people who after they got married

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Speaker 1: such is because we are taught in religious background that

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Speaker 1: like albeit purposeful technique to give someone permission you enjoy

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Speaker 1: Are they are they mostly run by men? Are they sexist? Um?

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Speaker 1: then some of the things that are going on now,

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Speaker 1: because despite a history of obstacles, sex toys are a

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Speaker 1: very big business. UM. A lot of times the policies

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Speaker 1: This hasn't stopped the industry, though, and the retail market

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Speaker 1: worth fifty billion dollars. On top of that, popular properties

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Speaker 1: like broad City have their own sex stories, oh, their

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Speaker 1: know that made the news recently, and I believe a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago I told this story. But I

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Speaker 1: in the mail, and it was like lawnmower like all

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Speaker 1: this stuff, you know, And then we flip a page

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Speaker 1: and it's entire two pages of vibrators, and I took

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Speaker 1: a picture. I still have it because it was so surprising. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've gone mainstream. Did your mom react? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she did. She did but she was very much like, wow,

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Speaker 1: all right, good for the ladies, get what you need. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So cheers Samantha, cheers friend, cheers to you listeners, and

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