1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: My next guest. He's live in studio, which is always fantastic. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: The game of basketball has been very, very good to. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: My next guest is the former NBA All Star If 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: I if I say anything wrong, check me okay, correct you, okay, 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: World champion with the San Antonio Spurs, Olympian businessman, broadcaster, philanthropers. 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: After playing fourteen season in the NBA, he became You 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: can see him in popular TV commercials, which I always 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: enjoy him and he looks so relaxed because I can't act, 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: So whenever I see anybody looking at that relaxed, I 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: always go, what are you doing? Back college basketball? Seeing 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: nightly on NBA TV and some cold suit you know, 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: you know how the cold suit on the day, but 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: he got the cold suit on NBA today, uh TV. 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making conversations. Steve Smith. Appreciate, thank you, 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I like that. You can do 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: that again, absolutely, But you're not the cold suit on 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: with a little you know, square and everything. So, so 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: what is the image of Steve Smith? What is Steve's brain? 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: I guess I can say I would say Steve Smith 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: brand is just being himself, a humble person for that voice. 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: He already got the voice. He went into Steve Smith voice. 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: It's just a natural, just a natural, just a natural. 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: My friend, just kid from the east side of Detroit, 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: got a chance because of that around basketball you talked about, 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: got a chance to take me around the world. And 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: obviously for me, um, it's taken me where. I still 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: haven't had a job. I always tell people, haven't got 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: a job yet because I'm doing stuff I love and 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: dreamed to do. So dreamed of playing in the NBA, 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: and obviously that dream came true. Never thought and dreamed 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: of being broadcasting. But that was something I said, that'd 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: be a fun job. And but how did that? How 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: did that happen? Because you said you never thought because 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: you just athlete, correct more than just an athlete. But 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: I think, Um, at the end of my career, never 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: thought I'd being broadcasting. I was sitting at the restaurant 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: and some of alternery executives were there that I got 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: a chance to meet and be around because I'm here 39 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: in the landing, played here, and they said, Steve, would 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: you want to be in broadcasting? I said, no, no, no, 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: not at all, that's not for me. I didn't go 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: over to school for that. They said why not? And 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: that the reason they caught me, because they said why not? 44 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: I didn't have an answer for so went in and 45 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: did a demo and obviously they said, uh, we think 46 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: you'd be good. Why don't you think about staying in 47 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: basketball and covering the Hawks? And I tell people, boy, 48 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: coming to Hawks at that time, they couldn't win a game. 49 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Yet to come up with stories, you had to come 50 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: up with different people. You just had to come on 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: and just to keep talking about basketball. I think it 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: expanded me as a broadcast for a team that wasn't 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: doing well at the time. Okay, So so here's something 54 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about as education, because of my 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: degree is in mathematics and it took me seven years 56 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: to get my degree. Okay, but I thought, I always 57 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: tell people that you can't repole education, and so you 58 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: went back and got your degree. My mom a promise. 59 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: When I got a chance to go to Michigan State 60 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: University my junior year, I had this little thought that 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna come out and my dad and they said, no, 62 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: you're not coming out earlier, going all four years and 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: then obviously when I finished, I only had eleven credits left, 64 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: and you know, you started procrasting. I'm gonna do that 65 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: in the summer. Summer started to go on. But my 66 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: mom eventually, you know, my rookie year past, and I 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: always had that waste in my mind, you're going back 68 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: getting your degree. And so then after the time it 69 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: really hit me was when my kids said, Dad, you 70 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: don't have your degree. Because I say, hey, you're going 71 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: to college getting your drie. They said, you don't have 72 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: your degree. So that was the kicking my butt to 73 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: make me go back. And you can't talking nor if 74 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: you're not applying it yourself. And I say, the hardest 75 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: thing just having leven credits left. It seemed like that 76 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: was nothing when I first left, I go back and 77 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: do it. After years, kept going and going. You always 78 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: made excuse. But after the kids, in that little voice, 79 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: my mom made me go back. Well, it is important 80 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: to you. You know the reason I like it because 81 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: that means your goal. Person, the goals are important to you. 82 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: It's important you in athletics, and then in this part 83 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: it's important you in life. Because of the fact that 84 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: I would tell me, if you set a goal, you 85 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: can actually you know, you can actually hold people accountable. 86 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: And so once you got that degree, you can start 87 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: holding your kids accountable for sure. I mean I could 88 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: stick my chest out and so you have to. But 89 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I would say more than just that degree, just having 90 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: that experience being on that college campus, and UM, I 91 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: tell you, I'll take that into the next segment. That 92 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: was the reason why I started by Steve Smith Scholarship Fund, 93 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: talking about we're talking about we're talking about I'm back home, 94 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: speaking obviously about basketball to the entire high school, my 95 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: high school, Persian High School, and a young lady stood 96 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: up and said, Steve, you know, I want to go 97 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: to college. I don't have enough funds and money and 98 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: financially means to go to college. I did everything everybody 99 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: told me to do. I'm a four point old students. 100 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm only missed class two or three times in my 101 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: entire school, and uh, I don't have enough money to 102 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: go to school, and how can I go without athletics? 103 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: And that's when it started to me I needed to 104 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: help and do something to have kids from my high school, 105 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: my community. The first reaching your own personal pocket. Yeah 106 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: you did, I had to write. So what triggered that 107 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: next step? You know, it's getting other people involved and 108 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: getting them involved in the point of say, I can't 109 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: do this by myself. What pushed that? What that opportunity 110 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: did in your mind? I think anything, you know, this 111 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: is being successful. You're not going to ever do it alone. 112 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: I think for me, it was my you know I 113 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: call it team Smith, my parents, you know, my mom's 114 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: voice even though she's passed, my dad, my parents, my wife, 115 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: my community, understanding that this is something I wanted to do. 116 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: And then obviously reaching in that that pocket is uh, 117 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: it was I got that look for my wife, you're 118 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: about to donate how much? Two point five million dollars? 119 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: He said, why? And after you explain why, it all 120 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: makes sense. And for me it was something I wanted 121 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: to do. And like I said, always had that voice 122 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: with my mom in my head. And that's and so 123 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: how I has basketball being u because the beauty about 124 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: you is superstar in college, we got to say that, uh, superstar, 125 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: you don't be then all star not being a superstar 126 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: and the NBA Olympian that's you know, that's rare opportunity 127 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: right there. How has that helped you in life? Being 128 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: that successful? And then and then like you said, somebody 129 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: approached you by being uh an, so you went, oh, 130 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: that's not me. And so now you're so successful in 131 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: this world. How's that happening? You know? I think he 132 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: goes back, Um, you know their voices from my mom. 133 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: But then on the other side, as my dad thirty 134 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: seven years, he drove the city city of Detroit, US 135 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: hard work, watching them get up at four o'clock in 136 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: the morning, coming back at nine o'clock at night. He 137 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: drove the bus with thirty seven years. So I made 138 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: him retire just hard work. And I think whenever you 139 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: put your mind to someone, you start to put in 140 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: your stamp where you're gonna go in, and you gotta 141 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: put in more work than anybody else to be successful. 142 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: And I think you never measure yourself on I want 143 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: to be better than you. I want to be better 144 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: than you. You want to be the best version of 145 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: yourself by putting in hard work. Okay, Steve Smith the 146 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: personality that that's the person that I see on TV 147 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: these commercials. You seem so see I'm just gonna get 148 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: into Steves. See you're the guy keeps saying, but you know, 149 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: I just want to play basketball. I just wanted but 150 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: you're so natural, Steve, I'm mad at it because you 151 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: can do so many good things that are natural. Why 152 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: why you know that's don't worry about that. Don't worry 153 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: about you can't do everything there but I can't add though, 154 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: But I didn't stop me from making money, So you're natural. 155 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Talking about that whole process, because I'm sure when people 156 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: approach you by commercials, it was a doubt in your head. 157 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: People approach you about being on TV at the national 158 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: of covering college basketball, sideline reporting, there were always doubts, 159 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: and I always trying to use this show to break 160 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: through those doubts, break through those those moments where you 161 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: are afraid, but you broke through. Why you gotta try. 162 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one thing is you're not gonna 163 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: succeed unless you try. And I think always it's a 164 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: wisdom going out there and talking to people. Always say 165 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: tell kids, seek wisdoms, Seek people like yourself to get 166 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: a chance to been there before you ask people, ask questions. 167 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: And I think more importantly is when you define yourself. 168 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: It's hard to mess up being you. If you just 169 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: be yourself, whether it's good or bad, as smiles, as eyes, 170 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: it's always gonna be true to you. So I always 171 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: I guess probably myself on being me. Where the cool 172 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: thing about it is that? And I guess the cool 173 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: that that that the I guess the all the part 174 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: that you were playing it out on a large stage, 175 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, I guess you can say you know when 176 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: you were doing it for the Hawks when nobody watching, 177 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: because that was good, good good good training ground, great 178 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: training ground. But when you when when when the stage 179 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: kept getting bigger and having an opinion because you know, 180 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: as an analyst you have to have an opinion. You 181 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: have to meet these same players. You have to couch. 182 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, you have to be relevant because you know, 183 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: as as a fan, we can see through going A's 184 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: saying that right, So so as as an analyst, how 185 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: did you gauge that maintaining I gotta tell the truth 186 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: but also maintain the relationship or doesn't matter, No, it 187 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: does matter. I think first of all, is I just 188 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: love the game of basketball since three or four years old. 189 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: Was always I've always had a ball in my hand. 190 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: And then I think I'm gonna watch it at the 191 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: high school level, I'm gonna play it. I'm anna coaching 192 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: and doesn't have anything to do with finances. I would 193 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: have played this game just because of love of it. 194 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: I think the next part about it is I'm always 195 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: around it. I've been around a U, I've been around kids. 196 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I keep in touch with all my friends and found 197 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: it around the country about kids in this game of basketball. 198 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: And so for me to get a chance to be 199 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: on TV, I'm just naturally talking like we would be 200 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: talking we were at home. Some of those words that 201 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: you can't say on that keep you to keep you 202 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: lout of the pepper, I keep it all south, and 203 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, being able to break down 204 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: the game from my eyes from a guy that's seen 205 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: in so many different ways, and obviously each year you 206 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: get more experience, it helps. And also staying relevant. You 207 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: gotta talk to the young group about the game of basketball. 208 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: Then obviously going to guys like George Gerband, Spencer Haywood, 209 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: guys that taught me the game from the City of 210 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: Trading and State of Michigan. You keep those two together 211 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: and you're somewhere in the middle. You always got to 212 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: talk to older guys who've done it because they have 213 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: their vision. Then my youngsters, the youngsters telling me about 214 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: the crossovers and different things. But you're like um an 215 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: icon because you've spent four years in college. That's where 216 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: coming in they mad because they got to go to 217 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: school for one year and then come in and they 218 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: they almost kind of like, well, the G League. I 219 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: know I'm cutting this question tight, but I want to 220 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: get a little thought all about coming to school early. 221 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Are not going to school at all and going to 222 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: the NBA. Well, first of all, under the presently constructed rules, 223 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: if they stayed the same for college athletes, I think 224 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: they should be allowed to go, you know, from high 225 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: school to the pros. But now they can change some things. 226 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: I have so many ideas where I think, if you know, 227 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: first you should be able to get health insurance just 228 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: like a state worker and wherever state you're in. I 229 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: think also you should be able to put UM I guess, 230 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: pursue your UM degree and academically more than just a 231 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: four or five six years. I think it should be 232 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: ten year gap. Whether you get a chance with playing, 233 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: you still should have ten years to be able to 234 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: get your degree. So so many different things, but they 235 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: don't have those opportunities. I think they should be out 236 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: allowed to come out of high school. When we come back, 237 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the real estate. We're gonna 238 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: talk about the foundation in more detail, but also the 239 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: stops in your life and how you transitioned. And also 240 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about when a time when it 241 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: really was over with how what were your thoughts there. 242 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: But also I want to talk about why he don't 243 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: have a talk show, why he ain't hosting the game show, 244 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: why he ain't producing these big movies and everything. Because 245 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to the next big star, his name 246 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: just having to be Steve. I can do something with Steve. 247 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: I do real good business with Steve's I'm back on 248 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. You're listening to your money making conversations. Sitting 249 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: next to me is entrepreneur Philanthropus um all Star. He 250 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: knows text met because he won a championship with Sam 251 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: Antonio Spirits. I'm from Houston, Texas, so we kind of 252 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: like a brother. Come on, man, Guacamola, come on, it's ridiculous. 253 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm beyond text Max. I'm kind of like, if you 254 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: came by my house, you go, you kind of you're 255 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. You're kind of crazy because nobody eats 256 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: this much Mexican food, But I do what's your favorite 257 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: place in Atlanta? Now? Okay, which is fine because that's 258 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: what you're doing. I already told you know you need 259 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: your talk show. Don't don't be don't don't don't like 260 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: to eat, don't act like I'm using. I'm stunned by 261 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: this reaction. You know, I'm gonna tell you something. And 262 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: this is nothing negative about Atlanta, Okay, but the best 263 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: eating places when we started off, he's got to be negative. 264 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: I gotta. I gotta say this now because a lot 265 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: of people, well, you ain't look here. I've lived in 266 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I've lived for the real in Chicago, I've 267 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: lived in New York, I've lived in Atlanta for real, 268 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: I've lived in Houston. Chicago is the best eating East. 269 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: That's always variety. I mean they really you want some 270 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: great pizza, you want the great steaks, you want the 271 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: great seafood, you want just the American dish. The best 272 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: breakfast places in the world are Chicago, by no Nobody 273 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: can compete with that in Chicago. Now when you come 274 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: to Atlanta, Bobby Q Jimmy Knicks hands down one of 275 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: the best chains you know. And I would recommend people 276 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: to go to as far as text next. Kids can't 277 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: be used to man just cannot be Houston now and 278 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: now it's it's a place pure pure taco. They're good 279 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: here in their land. They're good here. Pure Taco is 280 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: really good here because they because they because they chips 281 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: are soft, little little little salt on a little little 282 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: little salt on it. But but the sauce is the key, 283 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: the pika, the guyo that has to be also. See 284 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: that makes see I'm tasting your chips can't be hard 285 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: and your sauce a rough. You know what I'm saying. 286 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: You gotta make sure it's right. So Pure Taco is 287 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: one of the best in the city. Um, but I'm 288 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: gonna tell you if you want to go and get 289 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: a nice little guacamola uh sauca mix, go to Sprouts. 290 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: Uh they have this. You can go in the back 291 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: of the store. They have a guacamola sauca mix. Fantastic, 292 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: little spicy, but it's the best. Get you some light 293 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: chips on the sheriff when you go out, and brother, 294 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: you're having your own, your own Mexican party at your house. 295 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Text mix, So you'n't talking me about some food. Man, 296 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm a war winning banker. You may not know that, man, 297 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: So you start talking about some food, We're gonna lose 298 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: this conversation real fast because I just get lose my mind. 299 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: So so with that being said, let's go back to you, Mr. Mr. 300 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: Interview with Sean McDonald RA Sean mcdal's Money Making Conversation show. 301 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that big donation you made at two 302 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: point five million that Like, when you make a donation 303 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: like that, people go, oh, how are you gonna pay 304 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: for this? So where do you get the money? Oh? 305 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: He rich? When you open your doors like that, or 306 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: making the donation the flood age open, how do you 307 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: stop the flood age? But also how you stay true 308 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: to your commitment? Well, I think, first of all, the 309 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: commitment was something that you you don't don't make more myself, 310 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: you just don't make that commitment, but I'll doing your 311 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: homework and understanding how you're gonna do it. And obviously 312 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: was a collaboration and what I mean by collaborations from 313 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan, from my community, from Michigan State University, 314 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: from my family and honor my mom. And obviously you 315 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: get a chance to just like I said, go seek 316 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: that wisdom and I have great business guys, if one 317 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: game up with the idea. Obviously, Um, they said, Michigan 318 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: State wants to do a student academic Center's okay, come in. 319 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Then they said, Steve, want you to donate two point 320 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: five million dollars and let me hang up on them first. 321 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: Because when you start to think about the impact it had, 322 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: not for myself but just for my community. For a 323 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: kid from Detroit Persian from the East Side to get 324 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: a chance to have a building on Michigan State campus, um, 325 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: to name it from my mom who didn't attend Michigan 326 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: State University, something that her legacy can can live on. 327 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: What gives me chills. Right now, my son is probably 328 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: my mom's building right now for the finals week. He's 329 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: a freshman at Michigan State. So to have that legacy 330 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: for him to call me and say, you know, I 331 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: never met Mama Bell, but for me to be in 332 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: here special, for me to get a chance to be 333 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: studying and my grandmother's building, So that legacy and obviously 334 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: what is done. As you guys know, we all are 335 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: not gonna make it pro but you can obviously kids 336 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: from Michigan State University nine and ninety six of them. 337 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: Percent of them gonna graduate if you go through my 338 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: mom's building as a student athlete. So that's what I 339 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: wanted to do to have guys have and young ladies 340 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: have a help for them to be able to get 341 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: a chance to graduate in further day education and get 342 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: that education, just like you gave the athletic ability to 343 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Michigan State. So but you do annual golf tournament, can 344 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: you continually raise funds to continue to provide scholarships? Talk 345 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: about that? Well, we started about twenty years ago. This 346 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: is a twenty year anniversary and obviously awful golfer. I 347 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: was still am but I'm getting better. But I'm okay, 348 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: but I'm a competitive I can't you can't sing, I 349 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: can't play golf. Okay, God, but it gets a chance 350 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: to raise money. I had one in Lands and Grand Rapids, Detroit, 351 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: and now we've condensed this to Grand Rapids right now 352 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: to twenty year, we get about six hundred golfer, six 353 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: hundred fift golfers to get a chance a lot. That's 354 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: that's a lot of people. It didn't start off like that. 355 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: People do we get about six hundred sixty, six hundred 356 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: fifty people to get a chance to come out and 357 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: have a good time. And one thing I like about 358 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: it about of them are repeat to come back and 359 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: just believe it in raising money for kids to get 360 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: a chance to further the education, because I think education 361 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: is equalizing and obviously you know experience and education. You 362 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: get a chance to go on campus and get an education. 363 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: It's not just that degree, that experience with different cultures, 364 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: because it was it was a shell shock for me 365 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: coming to Detroit, going to Michigan State Universary. It's huge. 366 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: It's big. I'm used to this a certain type of way, 367 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: but it broadens the horizons, get you expand yourself and 368 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: get a chance to see other things. And so so 369 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: that's a lot I want just change. But with charity 370 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: golf tournament to go, that's an amazing number. And that's 371 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: that's a testament to the quality and the fact it's 372 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: going into the twentieth year. Let you know that's consistent. 373 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: How could I could? It's just nobody can sign up? Now, 374 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: are you still we? We we we still might find 375 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: a way. Okay, cool, We'll tell us how we can 376 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: get in touch with Steve Smith's charity fund dot org 377 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: is a definitely a way, but just going through obviously 378 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: West Michigan, I mean Grand Rapids, Uh, their their website, 379 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: but the Steve Smith Charitable Fund dot org you definitely 380 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: find all the information. Okay, real estate, tell us how 381 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: you got started, how you got started in there? Well, 382 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: my guys, when I left Michigan State, I was uh 383 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: standing apartment uh and the management company is called DTM Management. 384 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: And then my business guys always told me that there's 385 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: a few things that you know, obviously it's not going anywhere. 386 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: You've never seen pretty much a university closed down. You 387 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: ever seen casinos closed down or hospitals? So put your money? 388 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: Which one would you want to do? Steve? And I 389 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: said university? That makes more sense to me. Your brand 390 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: when you look at it, there's always a kid wants 391 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: to have his wants to be at a university. They're 392 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: all from Michigan State is fifty some thousand. It's gonna 393 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: go to forty eight, but it's gonna be then forty 394 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: eight to fifty two thousand. Since I've been around, And 395 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: if you can have real estate around a university or 396 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: hospital or casino, those industries are pretty much not going anywhere. 397 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: So I bought my one unit right thirty three thousand 398 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: and nine, and every since then, I've been blind box 399 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: of a hundred units now every since then and you know, 400 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: we've we've done pretty good and it's still going. So 401 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: so you have a management company that handles that, the 402 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: DT in management and that's how that's how it works. 403 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: So that's how you're you're for raid, that's all. So 404 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: you're making money while you sleep. That's that's what I 405 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: want to do. So anyway, so you into the multiple 406 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: streams of income while sleeping, I want to work too hard. 407 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: That's another job. I want to keep these jobs well. 408 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: The beauty of what I always telling people is that 409 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: you know when you when you show up for a 410 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: basketball game or you're shore for an end ofview that's 411 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: called working wealthy. You know the wealth you're trying to get. 412 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: This what you're talking about with this real estate or 413 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: anything that you have about to always tell people that 414 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: that multiple stream of income makes you sleep comfortably and 415 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: also tells you you can say no yes comfortably and 416 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: say I don't feel like doing that comfortable because my time, 417 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: I love my time, your time and you can't. You 418 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: even used it on your golf game. I don't think 419 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: you said that, so I don't. So why do you 420 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: spend your time up here? Because I reasonally asked that, 421 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: is that what's the next stage in life for a successful, 422 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: a good looking guy. I appreciate that you made some glasses, 423 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: but still I cast people for a living. Okay, So 424 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: when you go, people approached you about hosting shows or producing, uh, 425 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, any type of mediums today or you want 426 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: to go with your brain? You know what I haven't. 427 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure people would. I just haven't opened that door 428 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: to him. I think for me is I've had that 429 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: door closed to a lot of different absolutes just because 430 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: my focus has been my kids. Focus has been my family, 431 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: and like you said, I've been comfortable, so I've been 432 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: able to I wouldn't say say no. First, I haven't 433 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: been out there searching and reaching. And then the money 434 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: doesn't drive me. That's one thing is I signed my 435 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: first rebouke contract was more than what my dad made. Absolutely, 436 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not measuring myself to my dad. But alway, 437 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: they said, never chase it, never chase it organically, let 438 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: it come. And obviously put in hard work and that's 439 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: what's happening with your whole life. That's why you look 440 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: so comfortable. Next for me, though, entrepreneur, I want to 441 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: get more real estate for me and also kids, and 442 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: want to do camps all over the country for kids 443 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: and obviously UM provide somewhere. Can you say camps all 444 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: over the country that basketball camps, whether it's education camps, 445 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: love reading one of the Definitely. I want to have 446 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: one of those large book clubs where everybody understand kids. 447 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: If you can read, you almost can read yourself out 448 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: of poverty. You can read yourself out of problems, and 449 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: that's why I think kids can do well. You know something, 450 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: Are those in all those still in the planning stages? 451 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: Are you always in the planning stages? Okay, we gotta 452 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: moving from planning to action. There you go. You got 453 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: the goals you've never been Let them tell you something. 454 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: When you're sitting next to a successful person, Steve, you 455 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: realize that that's what they're gonna do. Surrounding yourself with 456 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: the right people will create that the next step. Because 457 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: you said that constantly, that you've never done anything by yourself, never, 458 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: and that's so so moving forward shooting, you know, shout 459 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: that basketball. Yeah, from from the baseline, from the corner, Yeah, 460 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: from the from the elbow. You're very good man. I 461 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: want to thank you Steve Spith for coming on my show. 462 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: I just said, just sharing your story, man, I appreciate you. 463 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: You're amazing story. Well, you know, you're amazing guy. And uh, 464 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: I think that when people see this side of you, 465 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: it's a big blessing for them because they need to 466 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: know that there is an evolution and in the athletes 467 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: life and their evolutions is now affecting people in a 468 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: positive way. And I've gotten this story about your son 469 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: being in your his grandmother's building. That's um, I'm gonna 470 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: take that with me a long time. Thank you, sir, 471 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you,