Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It is a
Speaker 1: Thursday inside our very own SWBC Mortgage Studios. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start off this Thursday show with a question for you,
Speaker 1: Everson Walls. You remember Phil Pas Derek back in the
Speaker 1: l with My Men, number seventy five. He was known
Speaker 1: for the most benign rule change probably in football. Uh
Speaker 1: he kept getting drawn off sides by George Young in
Speaker 1: an extremely important game of ours. We end up losing
Speaker 1: it because he kept being drawn off sides by the
Speaker 1: encroachment of the D lineman. And now they have the
Speaker 1: rule that the D lineman can't do that anymore. Thank you, Philips.
Speaker 1: And I remember it. False start number seventy five, Philip
Speaker 1: pos Derek. And the reason I bring that up is
Speaker 1: that our own Mickey Spagnola has earned the title false
Speaker 1: start Mickey today because as we were just getting started,
Speaker 1: as we pulled back the curtain behind the scenes, it
Speaker 1: was comical hearing Mickey gets set up at his home,
Speaker 1: s WBC mortgage student. It made you think of big
Speaker 1: that is very cool. It made me think of Philip
Speaker 1: pos now because because he got called for holding about
Speaker 1: five times in that night nineteen eighty six game when
Speaker 1: when any light broke his wrist. When it was all
Speaker 1: said and done, even after all of those holding calls,
Speaker 1: we still had a chance with the Dorset screen pass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: colect the two yard line and once again bring it
Speaker 1: back holding once again, somebody got called for holding, right, yeah, somebody? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you know when I remember, so you know what
Speaker 1: I remember about Philip pots Derek. Not only that game.
Speaker 1: So it was game nine in eighty six. Both teams
Speaker 1: were six and two, the Cowboys only one one more
Speaker 1: game and the Giants went undefeated the rest of the
Speaker 1: way to win the Super Bowl. By the way, in
Speaker 1: eighty seven, during the strike, Philip pots Derek disappeared. He
Speaker 1: never came back after the strike, and they made me
Speaker 1: go to his house and knock on the door. The
Speaker 1: newspaper did, right, I said, no, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. Oh yeah, yeah, we need to do that.
Speaker 1: We need to comment from him. So I went and
Speaker 1: I believe his wife answered the door and now feel's
Speaker 1: not available. Now Now every time he sees me, I'm
Speaker 1: act like he's act like I'm his best friend. Phil
Speaker 1: Philos is a self proclaimed um computer geek. Actually, I
Speaker 1: think if I'm not mistaken, Phil built his own computer,
Speaker 1: I could believe that. So, so what you're saying, Everson
Speaker 1: is Mickey needs to invite Philip pos Derek over to
Speaker 1: his house at one thirty every single day so that
Speaker 1: Nicky can get set up for Mick shots every day.
Speaker 1: That's what you're doing. Can tell him what not to do.
Speaker 1: All I want to say one last day so we
Speaker 1: can go on and talk about the Cowboys. All I
Speaker 1: gotta say is if my if my phone froze up,
Speaker 1: nothing happened at my end. Okay, shots fired, Chris, I think, sorry, Chris.
Speaker 1: Shots fired at Chris. And I'm told that as this
Speaker 1: poem maybe frozen, so we may or may not have
Speaker 1: frozen on my end. All right, all right, he's there,
Speaker 1: Chris Beam says, he is there. All right, let's kick
Speaker 1: things off. I'm seeing a quote from Jalen Smith as
Speaker 1: he is talking with the media as we speak, probably
Speaker 1: and he describes this game against the Washington football team
Speaker 1: as a must win game. It's a must win, it's
Speaker 1: a must win both of these games, not only this
Speaker 1: week but against Philadelphia next week. How would you describe it.
Speaker 1: Let's start with you, VICKI. I think that Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: described it as this whole thing is about winning one
Speaker 1: game each week, and frankly, this is a big game
Speaker 1: for us, because his point was if you win division games,
Speaker 1: you can win the division no matter what else happens.
Speaker 1: Is that he said, normally, in normal seasons, the magic
Speaker 1: number in your division is if you get to four,
Speaker 1: the probability of getting into the playoffs increases, and five
Speaker 1: or six means you're probably in. And I think if
Speaker 1: you look at it, I believe the last I want
Speaker 1: to say, the last three years, maybe four, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have gone five and one. They went three and three
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, Dak lost twice to the Giants, the
Speaker 1: opener by one point and then another one by I
Speaker 1: believe it was two points, and then they cashed in
Speaker 1: the final game against Philadelphia because they didn't need to
Speaker 1: win it to improve their playoff situation. So three and
Speaker 1: three and twenty sixteen all three losses in the division,
Speaker 1: and then the next four years, did I count right?
Speaker 1: Seventeen seventeen eighteen? Long time? The next the next three
Speaker 1: years they went five and one. Sounds good to me, spags. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll just take your word for it. Yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker 1: Where your yes man making just paying attention to me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's WHA's your show? Thank god? Thank god? That's exactly So.
Speaker 1: How many how many wins is it gonna take to
Speaker 1: win this NFC East four win the division or the division?
Speaker 1: I'm talking overall division? How many of you got? What's
Speaker 1: your number overall overall? What's the what's the record? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think it just wins, just win all shakes out.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take seven or eight. Yeah, hey, look, I'm
Speaker 1: optimistic on we keep picking on the NFC East, I
Speaker 1: get it. And then the one win the one win teams,
Speaker 1: what are they look at? How many is that like? Nine?
Speaker 1: Like nine? One? No? Wow? At eleven? Yeah? Right? One?
Speaker 1: Jets have zero and there's ten other teams that have
Speaker 1: one win. Two of them are playing tonight and they
Speaker 1: are NFC East teams that would be the Giants are
Speaker 1: playing the Eagles tonight. Yeah, maybe not the Eagles already
Speaker 1: have one tie on their so we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Eagles, what are they now? They're one three and
Speaker 1: one right now, is that right? And so they could
Speaker 1: be one three and two if they tie the Giants tonight. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're one four in one right now? Would that's pretty
Speaker 1: bad if they died? So all right, so give us
Speaker 1: get us up to speed on what's going on at
Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco. Mickey after hearing Mike McCarthy this
Speaker 1: morning and reports from the practice field, we didn't go
Speaker 1: through the walkthrough yesterday. Uh sounds like he's got a
Speaker 1: pain in the neck. Uh. That's I like that. Those
Speaker 1: whole defense. He was supposed to maybe do something, maybe
Speaker 1: some limiting stuff today it seemed incur he told be
Speaker 1: ready he was able to go. Um, yeah, we lost
Speaker 1: were Mickey there. They are hoping for something and we
Speaker 1: are hoping to get Mickey back here momentarily. One thing
Speaker 1: I'll add to what Mickey is saying there, Everson is
Speaker 1: a tape to Mike McCarthy show last night. Asked him
Speaker 1: about Randy Gregory and he says Gregory looks good on
Speaker 1: the practice field. He talked about him at his press
Speaker 1: conference this morning too. Today's a big day for everybody.
Speaker 1: But there's no reason to think that Gregory wouldn't get
Speaker 1: through the padded practice today and be ready to go
Speaker 1: on Sunday to make his debut. How much do you think,
Speaker 1: Everson that the Cowboys could use a Randy Gregory on
Speaker 1: this defense? Well, I don't know if his mentality or
Speaker 1: his knowledge of the defense is going to help at all,
Speaker 1: but I know he's gonna have the freshest legs that
Speaker 1: anyone on the field is going to have. This guy
Speaker 1: has been waiting for so long to get back in
Speaker 1: this I'm sure mentally and fifth mentally and emotionally, he's
Speaker 1: really going through some stuff right now. I just happened
Speaker 1: to be a little privy to some of the things
Speaker 1: that he's been going through. My former agent, Steve Weinberg,
Speaker 1: has been really working behind the scenes really to try
Speaker 1: and get Graby back in. He's been talking about this
Speaker 1: since I was up for the Hall of Fame in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: I think there was a couple at least three I
Speaker 1: think three years ago, So that's how long this whole
Speaker 1: endeavor is taking. So I'm just glad that he's able
Speaker 1: to get back in. Obviously, when you're talking about the
Speaker 1: issues he's been having, the football aspect is really secondary.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in the big scheme of things,
Speaker 1: he's always had these issues, and drug usage has been
Speaker 1: the you know, been the reason. I guess that culminated
Speaker 1: in that. And so I'm just hoping he can I'm
Speaker 1: hoping football can bring him peace. That's really what I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that football can bring him a little stability and
Speaker 1: structure in his life. And also from on the field,
Speaker 1: I'm think that he can can pick up well Altum
Speaker 1: Smith left off because Algut Smith's uh productivity has dropped
Speaker 1: a bit, but he carried us as far as he
Speaker 1: could for a guy that's been out for longer than Gregory.
Speaker 1: I think he said five years when we first started
Speaker 1: our mix shots this season. So yeah, Randy, greg we
Speaker 1: could play a big part in this defense is uh
Speaker 1: hopefully researchers and success. Yeah, and uh, you know, just
Speaker 1: getting up to speed. Uh, you know, that's one of
Speaker 1: the one of the things did in practice the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks he's been able to work out the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks is getting him up to h
Speaker 1: football conditioning and but the beauty of it. For as
Speaker 1: far as the Cowboys are concerned, they can use him,
Speaker 1: uh in past rush situations where you know, I think
Speaker 1: he can have some sort of an impact. Um, I don't.
Speaker 1: Do we have Mickey back yet? I don't, no, no yet.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I mean the Cowboys, they've had bigger issues
Speaker 1: beyond the pass rush on this defense obviously through the
Speaker 1: first six games of this season. I mean, we talk
Speaker 1: about the turnovers, the giveaways on offense, and Everson you
Speaker 1: talk on and on about takeaways on defense and the
Speaker 1: lack thereof, but even just stopping other teams. Just because
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott fumbles a couple of times and Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: throws an interception against the Cardinals, the defense has to
Speaker 1: stop the other team. And now we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: always have to waive the flag anytime there's a turnover
Speaker 1: by our offense. I think that's what's so disheartening. We
Speaker 1: watch other teams. I don't though you do it. You
Speaker 1: see it, Bill, You watch other teams and you see
Speaker 1: the scores of these games, and you go, man, this
Speaker 1: is kind of refreshing, you know, to see someone playing defense.
Speaker 1: And it's a shame that we have to view our
Speaker 1: defense in that manner because it just seems that no
Speaker 1: matter who's coaching, no matter what the system is, with
Speaker 1: the exception of the Giants game, you haven't seen any
Speaker 1: consistent productivity as a group. I think the best game
Speaker 1: they had obviously was the Giants, and what you saw
Speaker 1: was it started where it should start. The front four.
Speaker 1: They were moving, they were they were moving that offensive line,
Speaker 1: they were controlling the line of scrimmage, and they were penetrating,
Speaker 1: which gave Jayleu Smith and Joe Thomas a chance to
Speaker 1: really show what they can do. And so that's the
Speaker 1: way it's supposed to fit, you know, But we've only
Speaker 1: seen that once out of six games, and again and
Speaker 1: again that was against the Giants team that had scored
Speaker 1: one touchdown in the previous three weeks or something like that,
Speaker 1: or had gone two weeks without scoring a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: how much of it was the fact they were playing
Speaker 1: the Giants and how much of it was the Dallas defense,
Speaker 1: which to that point, the Washington football team has about
Speaker 1: as many weapons on offense as what the Giants do,
Speaker 1: which is not much. They got Terry McLaurin, second year
Speaker 1: receiver out of Ohio State, and that's about it on
Speaker 1: that offense. So if ever there was an opponent that
Speaker 1: might be something that can fix this Dallas defense. The
Speaker 1: opponent is that what you call it fixing? Fixing it how,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll fix it, but it'll definitely
Speaker 1: placate the fans and hopefully the owner just a little bit,
Speaker 1: because at this point, what you're looking at is just
Speaker 1: in the whole season of futility. And what we saw
Speaker 1: last year was different because you know, we started out
Speaker 1: three and old and you know, everybody was bawling. It
Speaker 1: was all you know, everybody's jumping all of ourn and
Speaker 1: we're talking super Bowl. Well, now this is just a
Speaker 1: continuation of how we kind of ended last season defensively,
Speaker 1: the ineptness, the lack of run defense that the I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: not just lack of just the non existence of a
Speaker 1: run defense. So now when you need your defense to
Speaker 1: step up, when your quarterback is out for the entire season,
Speaker 1: when you have a running back who's kind of having
Speaker 1: his fumble woes just a little bit and we know
Speaker 1: he'll come out of at this point, this is when
Speaker 1: you need a defense to answer. We're like, okay, we
Speaker 1: got this. You guys will go ahead and settle in and
Speaker 1: and get your stuff together. We're gonna make sure and
Speaker 1: we're gonna ramp up what we need to do to
Speaker 1: keep this team in the in the first place in
Speaker 1: the NFC East. All right, we are going to take
Speaker 1: a break here and hopefully Philip Paus Derek has made
Speaker 1: it over to Mickey Computer issues and uh after that
Speaker 1: false start, we will have more mix shots in just
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Speaker 1: what just happened in the break here, Everson, as if
Speaker 1: only we had some behind the scenes camera on the
Speaker 1: what's going on as we try to get Mickey established.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope, I hope Mickey's achilles is doing
Speaker 1: better because Chris is about to come whip his ass.
Speaker 1: I believe Vicky is back apparently, Yeah, of course, of course,
Speaker 1: none of the problems ever said. We know that none
Speaker 1: of the problems have been nicky. Yeah, I just point
Speaker 1: out one thing I had. I didn't change anything. He didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't touch anything. It's just I didn't touch anything,
Speaker 1: that's right, he says. He says, I did refresh my computer. Anyway,
Speaker 1: All right, you're you're refreshed and ready to go. Now,
Speaker 1: you were talking about the practice report you were caught
Speaker 1: in you were cut off in mid sentence. Right now.
Speaker 1: The key thing is, and I guess we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to wait till the actual report comes out, is how
Speaker 1: well or how much was Cam irving and able to practice,
Speaker 1: because they're looking at him as the potential starter at
Speaker 1: left tackle now that Brandon Knight is recovering from his
Speaker 1: scope to repair toward meniscus. So he hadn't he hadn't played,
Speaker 1: but what part of one game until he got rolled
Speaker 1: up on on that extra point or field goal attempt,
Speaker 1: and then he was ready to come back. They thought
Speaker 1: off ir last week and he came down ill. So
Speaker 1: we'll see what he's able to do. Otherwise, I mean,
Speaker 1: the next guy's up is Greg Senat or Jordan Mills, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, you know, I've been wondering what's the
Speaker 1: deal with him. He's got seven years experience, he's played
Speaker 1: all all the spots, but I've forgotten that he basically
Speaker 1: didn't have any training camp. They signed him and he
Speaker 1: came in and he wasn't I don't know how good
Speaker 1: a shape he was in or if he was ill too,
Speaker 1: but at least this guy's played in the league quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Now, Sanat's got a several games of experience.
Speaker 1: So we'll see where they go at that at that
Speaker 1: tackle position. Uh, it looks like Connor McGovern's probably your
Speaker 1: guard over there. Um, so you don't have the ability
Speaker 1: to move Zack Martin around. So now you're gonna have uh.
Speaker 1: And if if Irving can't go, then you're it's the
Speaker 1: next guy up, next guy up, next guy up. That
Speaker 1: that would end up at left tackle for you. If
Speaker 1: if Irving can't go, your starter can't go. H. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, but you know what what you guys were
Speaker 1: talking about. And I was chomping at the bit to
Speaker 1: come in and say absolutely, just because you have problems
Speaker 1: on offense doesn't mean you should have to have problems
Speaker 1: on defense. Right stop somebody. Uh and and remember this,
Speaker 1: this defense last year finished ninth overall in total yards.
Speaker 1: This defense this year is on record sending pace to
Speaker 1: get more yards than any team in Cowboys history, and
Speaker 1: that includes nineteen sixties. Yea, Now, I know it was
Speaker 1: only twelve games, but I bet if you averaged it out,
Speaker 1: it's still going to be more than any other team
Speaker 1: in club history. All they lost was four guys, right,
Speaker 1: four guys in free agency, Robert Quinn, MALIEK Collins, Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: and Jeff and everybody wanted to get rid of Jeff.
Speaker 1: He who who got an interception a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Yes, he did a big interception
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. MALIEK. Collins. Oh, we can't afford him.
Speaker 1: I think you can ford him now because they're having
Speaker 1: troubles defensive tackle. I understand the Quinn thing. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how well he's you know, and and and
Speaker 1: I was told last year, Yeah, he got all those sacks,
Speaker 1: but that's all he was about. He didn't hold the
Speaker 1: edge down in the running game. Well, no one's doing
Speaker 1: it now, so I don't get it. So who do
Speaker 1: we have? And it's what and it's you know what?
Speaker 1: And ever since, And it was about what you were
Speaker 1: talking about two things. One just mistakes. You know, the
Speaker 1: Kyler We talked about the Kyler Murley run on fourth
Speaker 1: and one or whatever. Hold down the edge? What are
Speaker 1: you collapsing inside? For the third and eleven? The twelve
Speaker 1: yard passed to Larry Fitzgerald. What's the corner doing ten
Speaker 1: yards off the line of scrimmage? You know where the
Speaker 1: ball's going, so what he's not going to run by you.
Speaker 1: So it's just like just not playing smart football. And
Speaker 1: who do you blame that on? Do you blame that
Speaker 1: on the coach or do you blame that on the
Speaker 1: defensive leadership. That's the issue that we're having here. It's
Speaker 1: the same problems we had last year with Christmas Shard
Speaker 1: being here, and they talked about the undercutting and things
Speaker 1: of that nature that may have been happening, and all
Speaker 1: those which shouldn't have anything to do with how the
Speaker 1: guys are playing on the field, because they still made
Speaker 1: the same mistakes they made last year, making even more
Speaker 1: this year. So is it Mike Nolan it? You know,
Speaker 1: we wanted to blame Jason Garrette for that. Even so
Speaker 1: now all the all the suspects have left, We've got
Speaker 1: new suspects. What is the problem. And at some point
Speaker 1: guys have just got to play, right. I mean, in
Speaker 1: your mind, if it's third and eleven and you're gonna
Speaker 1: play twelve yards off the line of scrimmage, no, you're
Speaker 1: probably not gonna And so what if you get beat,
Speaker 1: you just gotta play. You're you're in I'm thinking man coverage.
Speaker 1: On the eighty yard touchdown pass, they send out three receivers.
Speaker 1: The safety got the guy down the slot. The other
Speaker 1: corners got the guy on the other side of the field. Well,
Speaker 1: you probably should have that receiver that you just sat
Speaker 1: on and let go buy you because you were in
Speaker 1: single safety high. Oh yet to do is that's all
Speaker 1: he had to do, was just turning around. Nothing behind me.
Speaker 1: I guess I better run with him. And you've got
Speaker 1: a guy who's known as a deep threat. He runs
Speaker 1: like a four three four. That's his deal. That's what
Speaker 1: he does. It's crazy or like the or like the
Speaker 1: early in the game, the end a round to Christian
Speaker 1: Kirk right, Well, they collapsed on that side of the field.
Speaker 1: When you see that guy in motion, you at least
Speaker 1: got to respect the fact that they might flip it
Speaker 1: to it. Hey, we've seen end the rounds before, so
Speaker 1: you would think they would game plan for anything that
Speaker 1: has hurt us in previous weeks. And anytime I talk
Speaker 1: about what we're going to see from the upcoming team,
Speaker 1: what you're going to see is what you've already seen
Speaker 1: because you haven't shown you can stop it exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: So at some point you got to think for yourself
Speaker 1: out truly very true. The other part of it go
Speaker 1: ahead making all I was gonna say, all I know
Speaker 1: is it's really hired to win if you keep giving
Speaker 1: up thirty eight points a game, right, And even against
Speaker 1: the Giants, they gave up thirty four, and of course
Speaker 1: there was an interception return for a touchdown, so the
Speaker 1: defense technically gave up twenty seven in that game. But
Speaker 1: a lot of it, too is just being aware of
Speaker 1: the situation, aware of the strength of the other team,
Speaker 1: which which comes in preparation throughout the week. And they're
Speaker 1: sometimes when the coach doesn't have to tell you that
Speaker 1: you've got video. You know we I'm sure they're on
Speaker 1: social media all the time. Turn that crap off every
Speaker 1: once in a while and do like Sean Lee, get
Speaker 1: in there and just watch a video. Just watch YouTube.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be this great educated football player
Speaker 1: just to study your upcoming competitions tendencies. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about Worldly, we talked about Brown. I keep getting
Speaker 1: his name after Brown to talking about these guys, and
Speaker 1: I have fuss about him all the time. I know
Speaker 1: I do. But once again, I can't necessarily blame them
Speaker 1: too much because they are what they are. We've known
Speaker 1: what they are for years now. Okay, why would we
Speaker 1: expect something different from players who haven't shown us any
Speaker 1: of that stuff that we're talking about. Why should I
Speaker 1: expect Brown to have any awareness doing the ball game?
Speaker 1: Why should I expect Worldly to cover the fastest man
Speaker 1: on the team on the off on the opposing team
Speaker 1: when he couldn't even cover a tight end in the
Speaker 1: previous game against the Blitz. So what they're doing, I
Speaker 1: can't really say I blame them too much. That's like
Speaker 1: kicking a horse when he's down. But when it comes
Speaker 1: down to it, we need to start signing more players
Speaker 1: with that type of mentality that can make a difference
Speaker 1: in this on this team. So let me ask you, Everson,
Speaker 1: a man with the fifty seven regular season interceptions in
Speaker 1: his NFL career, and another four I think in the
Speaker 1: postseason for sixty one total. How much What would you
Speaker 1: say the percentage of the plays that you made were
Speaker 1: the result of instinctive awareness type stuff as during the
Speaker 1: flow of a game, during the flow of a play,
Speaker 1: as opposed to what you were assigned to do on
Speaker 1: a play. That depends on what part of my career
Speaker 1: you're talking about. When I first went out there, I
Speaker 1: knew what the hell I was doing. I just couldn't
Speaker 1: stop anybody consistently, and I had to say, Okay, this
Speaker 1: defense is not made for me to necessarily make plays.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just I just I just said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna be aggressive within myself without trying
Speaker 1: to hurt the defense, because they're gonna come at me anyway.
Speaker 1: So instead of just tucking my tail between my legs,
Speaker 1: I need to go head and rely on those instincts
Speaker 1: that you talked about. Bill. By the second half of
Speaker 1: the season, the clouds were gone. I wasn't playing in
Speaker 1: a fog as I was doing the first part. Of course,
Speaker 1: I had all the interceptions in the first part. That
Speaker 1: was just a matter of survival. All of a sudden
Speaker 1: when I get into a second part. Then we started
Speaker 1: getting to the playoffs, we got into a championship game.
Speaker 1: Then years after that. Yes, instinctively, I would say, with
Speaker 1: the teammates that I had, and with the camaraderie and
Speaker 1: cohesiveness that we had. As a secondary, almost my entire
Speaker 1: game was about the instincts. Really, we communicated. You know,
Speaker 1: if Ron Fellows was having problems on the other side,
Speaker 1: you know, then we wouldn't have helped him. But as
Speaker 1: far as my play was concerned, that's the only way
Speaker 1: I was able to survive was through my instincts. Because
Speaker 1: as much as we started off that you're in the zone,
Speaker 1: the teams always knew how to put us into man
Speaker 1: to man doing the progress of the play, which means
Speaker 1: they're gonna I'm gonna be by myself. So there's no
Speaker 1: I don't need any knowledge about what I'm doing. I
Speaker 1: need knowledge about what they're doing right. And and so
Speaker 1: you were able to be instinctive in the way you
Speaker 1: played because you had that knowledge of what the other
Speaker 1: jan is exactly right. And so now I have to
Speaker 1: I have to get into their heads. I have to
Speaker 1: get into their heads. And it's not about the game plan.
Speaker 1: The game plan is and it's in you, it's it's here.
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to it, you have to
Speaker 1: shut the game plan. And if Larry Fitzgerald comes out
Speaker 1: there at thirty eight years old or whatever he is,
Speaker 1: and it's third and eleven and you run a fourth
Speaker 1: freaking two, he's probably running Everson Walls four seven. Lock
Speaker 1: up on this, dude, Lock up on him. You you
Speaker 1: you got to get out of the fog. He was not,
Speaker 1: he was not. There was no clear thought process for
Speaker 1: him at this point. He's reeling and he hadn't. And
Speaker 1: our whole defense, a whole secondary, has been reeling all
Speaker 1: all season long. That's the problem. We don't we don't
Speaker 1: have the we're not controlling the pace of the game
Speaker 1: in our secondary. All right, We continue with more mix
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Speaker 1: I wonder where do you watch the game from when
Speaker 1: you're at at and T Stadium the press box. I
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Speaker 1: see the Mickey Spagnola's seat. I don't know if they
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Speaker 1: We're on different different thrones during COVID nineteen protocol. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, the news regarding one does Bryant. He apparently
Speaker 1: is on his way to Baltimore and there, you know,
Speaker 1: he worked out for the Ravens in August and he's
Speaker 1: headed back there with the idea that they're going to
Speaker 1: sign him to their practice squad. If ever, all works out,
Speaker 1: and so does Bryant may have found an NFL home.
Speaker 1: We shall see. What do you think? When do the
Speaker 1: Cowboys play the Ravens. That is a month or so away,
Speaker 1: a little over a month away, So he's got time
Speaker 1: to acclimate, to get through COVID nineteen protocol and maybe
Speaker 1: gets elevated third. All right, so he's got a Thursday third. Yep,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. That guy has been working non
Speaker 1: stop after that Achilles injury a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I gotta admit, man, I've been pulling for him for
Speaker 1: quite some time. Of course, he posts everything on social media,
Speaker 1: so you can take a look at what he's trying
Speaker 1: to do. But man, he looks good. He really does
Speaker 1: look good. But and everybody's like, well, why don't we
Speaker 1: come back and play for the Cowboys. Well, he looks good,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't look that good because we got some
Speaker 1: even our backups right now at the wide receiver position. Yeah,
Speaker 1: think you can play tight end anybody. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if ve is blocking on the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Ravens making another move as they have acquired
Speaker 1: a pass rusher Yunique and Gackway from the Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 1: who have decided to wave the white flag on this
Speaker 1: season as they get a third and a conditional fifth
Speaker 1: round pick for Ingaqway. Uh and the Ravens needed a
Speaker 1: pass rusher they got. They got to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to get some pressure on Patrick Mahomes if they
Speaker 1: meet in the postseason and with a four man rush
Speaker 1: and um so there you go, and Gockway goes to
Speaker 1: Baltimore and he's of course playing on the franchise tag
Speaker 1: this year. It looks like they got to figure out
Speaker 1: how to complete some passes too. Quarterbacks struggling throwing the
Speaker 1: pool Jackson, that's why they get there. That's why they're
Speaker 1: bringing des Brian. Well, they're they're receiving corps not really
Speaker 1: very well, but they're I mean, he's their leading rusher.
Speaker 1: Um but he's not thrown the ball as well as
Speaker 1: he did last year. Have you recall that's gonna be
Speaker 1: that's gonna be AFC Super Bowl team still got him.
Speaker 1: And that has been the question on Lamar Jackson h
Speaker 1: in his career. I mean even going back to college
Speaker 1: and especially as rookie year, remember the playoff game against
Speaker 1: the Chargers he was I thought it was just remarkable
Speaker 1: to turnaround that he made passing the football from his
Speaker 1: rookie year to his UH year last year when he
Speaker 1: wins the MVP and um so, I don't know, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of times it's footwork, it's things like
Speaker 1: that that it's from a technical standpoint. We saw it
Speaker 1: early in Dak's career where he would have some issues
Speaker 1: and really had to focus on that. That may be
Speaker 1: something Lamar Jackson has to do. I don't haven't watched
Speaker 1: him closely enough, but you know when you look at
Speaker 1: their weapons, they've got the home run threat in Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 1: But uh, and then Mark Andrews a tight end um.
Speaker 1: And you know, if if des can stay healthy and
Speaker 1: if he's if he's got it, I mean he can
Speaker 1: he could be productive for them. And not only that,
Speaker 1: I like the way that, Yeah, when you're talking Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: it's so different because he can waste a play. You know,
Speaker 1: he can miss a pass. Every once in a while,
Speaker 1: it happens, but you know that he has the ability
Speaker 1: to make that up with his legs. So I don't
Speaker 1: think it's as glaring with the issues that that's Fags
Speaker 1: was referring to earlier. Uh. Yeah, he might miss a
Speaker 1: first down and ten guy might be open, but you know,
Speaker 1: all he's got to do is keep it on second
Speaker 1: down and he could still be left with another first
Speaker 1: down or even the short third down. So he has
Speaker 1: that luxury that other quarterbacks just don't have. What do
Speaker 1: you think when what do you think when these defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators are going to catch up with this concept that
Speaker 1: that guy can't beat me with his feet, He's gonna
Speaker 1: have to beat me throwing the ball. You know. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing with Kyler Murray. He's have to beat
Speaker 1: me throwing the ball, not with his feet. If I
Speaker 1: got to put eight guys in the box and take
Speaker 1: my chances, then I'll do that. Um. I mean he
Speaker 1: had guys. I mean, they could have scored fifty points
Speaker 1: if he just completed half his passes. He was nine
Speaker 1: of twenty four. And Kyla Murray typically is a better
Speaker 1: passer than what he showed the other night. And it
Speaker 1: must have been that Cowboy defense. Huh. Actually, so they
Speaker 1: actually Cowboys actually caught Kyler Murray on a night where
Speaker 1: he wasn't in sync and he was missing some throws badly,
Speaker 1: you know, and and some of it it might have
Speaker 1: been not been in sync with a receiver or whatever.
Speaker 1: And so that gets to your point when you talk
Speaker 1: about these defensive coordinators and the running quarterback and so forth. Well,
Speaker 1: I would assume that the defensive coaches coach the cowboy
Speaker 1: Boys to guard against Kyler Murray running the football. And
Speaker 1: I would think and so part of it is carrying
Speaker 1: out a game plan too, which, by the way, I
Speaker 1: know we were kind of rushed to talk about this
Speaker 1: yesterday with Sean Lee, uh, you know, doing a conference call.
Speaker 1: That was no coincidence that Sean Lee decided yesterday he
Speaker 1: was gonna have a conference call. Right. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: they came to him. Oh, Sean, we haven't talked yet.
Speaker 1: Once you talked right now, he had his hand up
Speaker 1: in the air and goes, let me go fix this, right.
Speaker 1: And so after I listened to it and a bunch
Speaker 1: of the stuff that he said, it wasn't like he
Speaker 1: was being ass that he was offering stuff right. Right,
Speaker 1: How do you know if somebody that's talking is not
Speaker 1: even in our locker room, or how do you know
Speaker 1: it's not coming from an agent that didn't just happen
Speaker 1: to come out of his mouth? Right, So Sean Lee
Speaker 1: knew what he was doing. And that's why they need
Speaker 1: him on the field. They need him on the field.
Speaker 1: You were ever since said about they need leadership on
Speaker 1: the field, somebody to take charge. You know, I thought
Speaker 1: vander Esh was going to do that. Then he gets
Speaker 1: hurt right away, and it takes a while when you
Speaker 1: come back to not come back and try to big
Speaker 1: time everybody. But they need somebody out there to kind
Speaker 1: of be the leader and get guys and let them know, hey,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You know you can't do that.
Speaker 1: That's what they need, and so gosh, they just can't
Speaker 1: get him back soon enough. Yeah, you just wish that
Speaker 1: the and I know everyone's flailing right now. It's kind
Speaker 1: of hard to have a a professional relationship with the
Speaker 1: way Mike Downs and myself had, you know, because we
Speaker 1: were successful and because we had the best front line
Speaker 1: ever in front of us, then we kind of had
Speaker 1: the luxury to sit back and talk about what we
Speaker 1: wanted to do in a ball game. We were always
Speaker 1: in tune to what we needed to do. Charlie Waters
Speaker 1: always in tune to what's going on doing the ball game.
Speaker 1: When Charlie left Dexter Clean Scale. Yeah, this guy's one
Speaker 1: of the smartest people. I don't know, his entire family smart.
Speaker 1: So you kind of rely on people who have those
Speaker 1: attributes so that it can make you better as a player.
Speaker 1: And it's not just about you, it's about the entire
Speaker 1: secondary having some type of knowledge and continuity. We're tied
Speaker 1: together as with a stream, right, so we need to
Speaker 1: be coordinated. There is no coordination at all in the
Speaker 1: Cowboys secondary. Everybody's everyone seems like they're on their own
Speaker 1: and covering their own asses right now. And it can't
Speaker 1: be that difficult. We were not splitting the atom here
Speaker 1: right just playing defense. It's about the willingness. It's about
Speaker 1: the willingness to do it. It's like Dennis Rodman and rebounds.
Speaker 1: He's six six, he rebounds everyone in the league. It's
Speaker 1: not supposed to happen logically, but it's not all about that.
Speaker 1: It's about what you're determined to do. It's rebounds about
Speaker 1: how much you want it. And someone has to take
Speaker 1: the initiative and show how much they want this thing
Speaker 1: to work. Who's the who's the leader, who's the communicator?
Speaker 1: In the secondary? It would have to be Thompson, he's
Speaker 1: a safety. Now it would probably be Xavier Woods well,
Speaker 1: with Xavier being mostly he was He's usually up with
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Am I wrong? Wow? But he's
Speaker 1: doing he's doing both and they've been changing that safety
Speaker 1: position every game. I mean Thompson this last yeah, Thompson
Speaker 1: was he was playing as a as a dime. Donovan
Speaker 1: Wilson's back there. Xavier's back there. Uh, and now maybe
Speaker 1: Parker will be back there even more that they signed
Speaker 1: him to the fifty three man roster. And speaking of
Speaker 1: dexter cling scale, that's the only other guy I ever
Speaker 1: had the tail when he disappeared to well what the
Speaker 1: eighties something or what I figured? I figured. I figured,
Speaker 1: I figured we finished the show where we started, Mickey
Speaker 1: tailing filthy man. Eighties they were a different beast. It
Speaker 1: was a different beast better and he never came back.
Speaker 1: He would not. He just went to the and he
Speaker 1: went to the Indianapolis Coat. Okay, all right, Mickey, we
Speaker 1: got maybe a minute left. You got another mix shot
Speaker 1: for us? Yes, no, I out with I used it already.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, we better let Chris go, man, we
Speaker 1: better let Chris go to his y. They're on pace
Speaker 1: to give up twenty seven hundred yards this year, So
Speaker 1: if the Eagles win to night, they'll be what two
Speaker 1: four and one, There'll be a half game up. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys could fall out of first place if
Speaker 1: the Eagles win a night. And by the way, the
Speaker 1: Eagles did put zach Ertz on ir today. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: ERTs will not be there next week when the Cowboys here,
Speaker 1: Will you want to see a team he won't be
Speaker 1: a week left? Yeah, well yeah, it's uh, he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be out three to four weeks for sure. And
Speaker 1: they lose another tackle already or can't play tonight. Um
Speaker 1: said again their tackle, the left tackle, I think their
Speaker 1: third string left tackle who's supposed to play. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll talk Eagles next week. But you talk about a
Speaker 1: team that has as many injuries or more than the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it's the Eagles. So they do have their quarterback though.
Speaker 1: All right, that does it for Mick. Shots for this Thursday,
Speaker 1: and oh on a fabulous Friday. We've got ahead for
Speaker 1: us tomorrow when we make our picks on the Dallas
Speaker 1: Washington game. Have a great Thursday. We'll see you tomorrow.
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