WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Getting Defensive

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is nick shot

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<v Speaker 1>screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday inside our very own SWBC Mortgage Studios. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start off this Thursday show with a question for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Walls. You remember Phil Pas Derek back in the

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<v Speaker 1>l with My Men, number seventy five. He was known

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<v Speaker 1>for the most benign rule change probably in football. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>he kept getting drawn off sides by George Young in

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<v Speaker 1>an extremely important game of ours. We end up losing

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<v Speaker 1>it because he kept being drawn off sides by the

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<v Speaker 1>encroachment of the D lineman. And now they have the

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<v Speaker 1>rule that the D lineman can't do that anymore. Thank you, Philips.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember it. False start number seventy five, Philip

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<v Speaker 1>pos Derek. And the reason I bring that up is

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<v Speaker 1>that our own Mickey Spagnola has earned the title false

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<v Speaker 1>start Mickey today because as we were just getting started,

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<v Speaker 1>as we pulled back the curtain behind the scenes, it

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<v Speaker 1>was comical hearing Mickey gets set up at his home,

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<v Speaker 1>s WBC mortgage student. It made you think of big

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<v Speaker 1>that is very cool. It made me think of Philip

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<v Speaker 1>pos now because because he got called for holding about

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<v Speaker 1>five times in that night nineteen eighty six game when

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<v Speaker 1>when any light broke his wrist. When it was all

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<v Speaker 1>said and done, even after all of those holding calls,

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<v Speaker 1>we still had a chance with the Dorset screen pass. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>colect the two yard line and once again bring it

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<v Speaker 1>back holding once again, somebody got called for holding, right, yeah, somebody? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know when I remember, so you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I remember about Philip pots Derek. Not only that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was game nine in eighty six. Both teams

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<v Speaker 1>were six and two, the Cowboys only one one more

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<v Speaker 1>game and the Giants went undefeated the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>way to win the Super Bowl. By the way, in

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven, during the strike, Philip pots Derek disappeared. He

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<v Speaker 1>never came back after the strike, and they made me

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<v Speaker 1>go to his house and knock on the door. The

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper did, right, I said, no, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Oh yeah, yeah, we need to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to comment from him. So I went and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe his wife answered the door and now feel's

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<v Speaker 1>not available. Now Now every time he sees me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>act like he's act like I'm his best friend. Phil

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<v Speaker 1>Philos is a self proclaimed um computer geek. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>think if I'm not mistaken, Phil built his own computer,

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<v Speaker 1>I could believe that. So, so what you're saying, Everson

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<v Speaker 1>is Mickey needs to invite Philip pos Derek over to

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<v Speaker 1>his house at one thirty every single day so that

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<v Speaker 1>Nicky can get set up for Mick shots every day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're doing. Can tell him what not to do.

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<v Speaker 1>All I want to say one last day so we

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<v Speaker 1>can go on and talk about the Cowboys. All I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say is if my if my phone froze up,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing happened at my end. Okay, shots fired, Chris, I think, sorry, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Shots fired at Chris. And I'm told that as this

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<v Speaker 1>poem maybe frozen, so we may or may not have

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<v Speaker 1>frozen on my end. All right, all right, he's there,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Beam says, he is there. All right, let's kick

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<v Speaker 1>things off. I'm seeing a quote from Jalen Smith as

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<v Speaker 1>he is talking with the media as we speak, probably

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<v Speaker 1>and he describes this game against the Washington football team

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<v Speaker 1>as a must win game. It's a must win, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a must win both of these games, not only this

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<v Speaker 1>week but against Philadelphia next week. How would you describe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with you, VICKI. I think that Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>described it as this whole thing is about winning one

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<v Speaker 1>game each week, and frankly, this is a big game

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<v Speaker 1>for us, because his point was if you win division games,

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<v Speaker 1>you can win the division no matter what else happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that he said, normally, in normal seasons, the magic

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<v Speaker 1>number in your division is if you get to four,

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<v Speaker 1>the probability of getting into the playoffs increases, and five

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<v Speaker 1>or six means you're probably in. And I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it, I believe the last I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, the last three years, maybe four, the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have gone five and one. They went three and three

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, Dak lost twice to the Giants, the

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<v Speaker 1>opener by one point and then another one by I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was two points, and then they cashed in

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<v Speaker 1>the final game against Philadelphia because they didn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>win it to improve their playoff situation. So three and

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<v Speaker 1>three and twenty sixteen all three losses in the division,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next four years, did I count right?

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen seventeen eighteen? Long time? The next the next three

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<v Speaker 1>years they went five and one. Sounds good to me, spags. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just take your word for it. Yeah, that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>Where your yes man making just paying attention to me? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's WHA's your show? Thank god? Thank god? That's exactly So.

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<v Speaker 1>How many how many wins is it gonna take to

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<v Speaker 1>win this NFC East four win the division or the division?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking overall division? How many of you got? What's

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<v Speaker 1>your number overall overall? What's the what's the record? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just wins, just win all shakes out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna take seven or eight. Yeah, hey, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic on we keep picking on the NFC East, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. And then the one win the one win teams,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they look at? How many is that like? Nine?

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<v Speaker 1>Like nine? One? No? Wow? At eleven? Yeah? Right? One?

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<v Speaker 1>Jets have zero and there's ten other teams that have

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<v Speaker 1>one win. Two of them are playing tonight and they

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<v Speaker 1>are NFC East teams that would be the Giants are

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<v Speaker 1>playing the Eagles tonight. Yeah, maybe not the Eagles already

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<v Speaker 1>have one tie on their so we'll see. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, what are they now? They're one three and

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<v Speaker 1>one right now, is that right? And so they could

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<v Speaker 1>be one three and two if they tie the Giants tonight. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're one four in one right now? Would that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>bad if they died? So all right, so give us

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<v Speaker 1>get us up to speed on what's going on at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star in Fresco. Mickey after hearing Mike McCarthy this

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<v Speaker 1>morning and reports from the practice field, we didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>through the walkthrough yesterday. Uh sounds like he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>pain in the neck. Uh. That's I like that. Those

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<v Speaker 1>whole defense. He was supposed to maybe do something, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some limiting stuff today it seemed incur he told be

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<v Speaker 1>ready he was able to go. Um, yeah, we lost

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<v Speaker 1>were Mickey there. They are hoping for something and we

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<v Speaker 1>are hoping to get Mickey back here momentarily. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'll add to what Mickey is saying there, Everson is

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<v Speaker 1>a tape to Mike McCarthy show last night. Asked him

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<v Speaker 1>about Randy Gregory and he says Gregory looks good on

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<v Speaker 1>the practice field. He talked about him at his press

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<v Speaker 1>conference this morning too. Today's a big day for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no reason to think that Gregory wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>through the padded practice today and be ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday to make his debut. How much do you think,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson that the Cowboys could use a Randy Gregory on

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<v Speaker 1>this defense? Well, I don't know if his mentality or

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<v Speaker 1>his knowledge of the defense is going to help at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know he's gonna have the freshest legs that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone on the field is going to have. This guy

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<v Speaker 1>has been waiting for so long to get back in

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<v Speaker 1>this I'm sure mentally and fifth mentally and emotionally, he's

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<v Speaker 1>really going through some stuff right now. I just happened

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little privy to some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that he's been going through. My former agent, Steve Weinberg,

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<v Speaker 1>has been really working behind the scenes really to try

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<v Speaker 1>and get Graby back in. He's been talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>since I was up for the Hall of Fame in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was a couple at least three I

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<v Speaker 1>think three years ago, So that's how long this whole

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<v Speaker 1>endeavor is taking. So I'm just glad that he's able

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<v Speaker 1>to get back in. Obviously, when you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>issues he's been having, the football aspect is really secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, in the big scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 1>he's always had these issues, and drug usage has been

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, been the reason. I guess that culminated

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<v Speaker 1>in that. And so I'm just hoping he can I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping football can bring him peace. That's really what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that football can bring him a little stability and

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<v Speaker 1>structure in his life. And also from on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm think that he can can pick up well Altum

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<v Speaker 1>Smith left off because Algut Smith's uh productivity has dropped

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, but he carried us as far as he

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<v Speaker 1>could for a guy that's been out for longer than Gregory.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he said five years when we first started

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<v Speaker 1>our mix shots this season. So yeah, Randy, greg we

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<v Speaker 1>could play a big part in this defense is uh

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully researchers and success. Yeah, and uh, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>getting up to speed. Uh, you know, that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the things did in practice the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks he's been able to work out the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks is getting him up to h

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<v Speaker 1>football conditioning and but the beauty of it. For as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the Cowboys are concerned, they can use him,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in past rush situations where you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he can have some sort of an impact. Um, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have Mickey back yet? I don't, no, no yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I mean the Cowboys, they've had bigger issues

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the pass rush on this defense obviously through the

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<v Speaker 1>first six games of this season. I mean, we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the turnovers, the giveaways on offense, and Everson you

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<v Speaker 1>talk on and on about takeaways on defense and the

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<v Speaker 1>lack thereof, but even just stopping other teams. Just because

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott fumbles a couple of times and Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>throws an interception against the Cardinals, the defense has to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the other team. And now we don't. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>always have to waive the flag anytime there's a turnover

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<v Speaker 1>by our offense. I think that's what's so disheartening. We

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<v Speaker 1>watch other teams. I don't though you do it. You

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<v Speaker 1>see it, Bill, You watch other teams and you see

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<v Speaker 1>the scores of these games, and you go, man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of refreshing, you know, to see someone playing defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a shame that we have to view our

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<v Speaker 1>defense in that manner because it just seems that no

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<v Speaker 1>matter who's coaching, no matter what the system is, with

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of the Giants game, you haven't seen any

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<v Speaker 1>consistent productivity as a group. I think the best game

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<v Speaker 1>they had obviously was the Giants, and what you saw

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<v Speaker 1>was it started where it should start. The front four.

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<v Speaker 1>They were moving, they were they were moving that offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>they were controlling the line of scrimmage, and they were penetrating,

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<v Speaker 1>which gave Jayleu Smith and Joe Thomas a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>really show what they can do. And so that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way it's supposed to fit, you know, But we've only

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<v Speaker 1>seen that once out of six games, and again and

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<v Speaker 1>again that was against the Giants team that had scored

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<v Speaker 1>one touchdown in the previous three weeks or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or had gone two weeks without scoring a touchdown. So

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<v Speaker 1>how much of it was the fact they were playing

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants and how much of it was the Dallas defense,

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<v Speaker 1>which to that point, the Washington football team has about

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<v Speaker 1>as many weapons on offense as what the Giants do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not much. They got Terry McLaurin, second year

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<v Speaker 1>receiver out of Ohio State, and that's about it on

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<v Speaker 1>that offense. So if ever there was an opponent that

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<v Speaker 1>might be something that can fix this Dallas defense. The

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<v Speaker 1>opponent is that what you call it fixing? Fixing it how,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it'll fix it, but it'll definitely

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<v Speaker 1>placate the fans and hopefully the owner just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>because at this point, what you're looking at is just

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<v Speaker 1>in the whole season of futility. And what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>last year was different because you know, we started out

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<v Speaker 1>three and old and you know, everybody was bawling. It

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<v Speaker 1>was all you know, everybody's jumping all of ourn and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking super Bowl. Well, now this is just a

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<v Speaker 1>continuation of how we kind of ended last season defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>the ineptness, the lack of run defense that the I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>not just lack of just the non existence of a

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<v Speaker 1>run defense. So now when you need your defense to

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<v Speaker 1>step up, when your quarterback is out for the entire season,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a running back who's kind of having

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<v Speaker 1>what just happened in the break here, Everson, as if

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<v Speaker 1>only we had some behind the scenes camera on the

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on as we try to get Mickey established.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope, I hope Mickey's achilles is doing

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<v Speaker 1>better because Chris is about to come whip his ass.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Vicky is back apparently, Yeah, of course, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>none of the problems ever said. We know that none

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<v Speaker 1>of the problems have been nicky. Yeah, I just point

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<v Speaker 1>out one thing I had. I didn't change anything. He didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't touch anything. It's just I didn't touch anything,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, he says. He says, I did refresh my computer. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you're you're refreshed and ready to go. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about the practice report you were caught

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<v Speaker 1>in you were cut off in mid sentence. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The key thing is, and I guess we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait till the actual report comes out, is how

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<v Speaker 1>well or how much was Cam irving and able to practice,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're looking at him as the potential starter at

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle now that Brandon Knight is recovering from his

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<v Speaker 1>scope to repair toward meniscus. So he hadn't he hadn't played,

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<v Speaker 1>but what part of one game until he got rolled

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<v Speaker 1>up on on that extra point or field goal attempt,

0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and then he was ready to come back. They thought

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<v Speaker 1>off ir last week and he came down ill. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what he's able to do. Otherwise, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the next guy's up is Greg Senat or Jordan Mills, who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you know, I've been wondering what's the

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<v Speaker 1>deal with him. He's got seven years experience, he's played

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<v Speaker 1>all all the spots, but I've forgotten that he basically

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have any training camp. They signed him and he

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<v Speaker 1>came in and he wasn't I don't know how good

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<v Speaker 1>a shape he was in or if he was ill too,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least this guy's played in the league quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. Now, Sanat's got a several games of experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see where they go at that at that

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<v Speaker 1>tackle position. Uh, it looks like Connor McGovern's probably your

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<v Speaker 1>guard over there. Um, so you don't have the ability

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to move Zack Martin around. So now you're gonna have uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And if if Irving can't go, then you're it's the

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<v Speaker 1>next guy up, next guy up, next guy up. That

0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that would end up at left tackle for you. If

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<v Speaker 1>if Irving can't go, your starter can't go. H. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unbelievable, but you know what what you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. And I was chomping at the bit to

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<v Speaker 1>come in and say absolutely, just because you have problems

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<v Speaker 1>on offense doesn't mean you should have to have problems

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<v Speaker 1>on defense. Right stop somebody. Uh and and remember this,

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<v Speaker 1>this defense last year finished ninth overall in total yards.

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.119
<v Speaker 1>This defense this year is on record sending pace to

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<v Speaker 1>get more yards than any team in Cowboys history, and

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<v Speaker 1>that includes nineteen sixties. Yea, Now, I know it was

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<v Speaker 1>only twelve games, but I bet if you averaged it out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still going to be more than any other team

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<v Speaker 1>in club history. All they lost was four guys, right,

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<v Speaker 1>four guys in free agency, Robert Quinn, MALIEK Collins, Byron Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeff and everybody wanted to get rid of Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>He who who got an interception a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm not mistaken, Yes, he did a big interception

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<v Speaker 1>for the Raiders. MALIEK. Collins. Oh, we can't afford him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can ford him now because they're having

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<v Speaker 1>troubles defensive tackle. I understand the Quinn thing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how well he's you know, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>I was told last year, Yeah, he got all those sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's all he was about. He didn't hold the

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<v Speaker 1>edge down in the running game. Well, no one's doing

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<v Speaker 1>it now, so I don't get it. So who do

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<v Speaker 1>we have? And it's what and it's you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>And ever since, And it was about what you were

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about two things. One just mistakes. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler We talked about the Kyler Murley run on fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and one or whatever. Hold down the edge? What are

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 1>you collapsing inside? For the third and eleven? The twelve

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<v Speaker 1>yard passed to Larry Fitzgerald. What's the corner doing ten

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<v Speaker 1>yards off the line of scrimmage? You know where the

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<v Speaker 1>ball's going, so what he's not going to run by you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just like just not playing smart football. And

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<v Speaker 1>who do you blame that on? Do you blame that

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<v Speaker 1>on the coach or do you blame that on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive leadership. That's the issue that we're having here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same problems we had last year with Christmas Shard

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<v Speaker 1>being here, and they talked about the undercutting and things

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<v Speaker 1>of that nature that may have been happening, and all

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>those which shouldn't have anything to do with how the

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>guys are playing on the field, because they still made

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<v Speaker 1>the same mistakes they made last year, making even more

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>this year. So is it Mike Nolan it? You know,

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to blame Jason Garrette for that. Even so

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 1>now all the all the suspects have left, We've got

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>new suspects. What is the problem. And at some point

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>guys have just got to play, right. I mean, in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind, if it's third and eleven and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play twelve yards off the line of scrimmage, no, you're

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>probably not gonna And so what if you get beat,

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta play. You're you're in I'm thinking man coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>On the eighty yard touchdown pass, they send out three receivers.

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>The safety got the guy down the slot. The other

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>corners got the guy on the other side of the field. Well,

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you probably should have that receiver that you just sat

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>on and let go buy you because you were in

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>single safety high. Oh yet to do is that's all

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.959
<v Speaker 1>he had to do, was just turning around. Nothing behind me.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I better run with him. And you've got

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's known as a deep threat. He runs

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 1>like a four three four. That's his deal. That's what

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>he does. It's crazy or like the or like the

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>early in the game, the end a round to Christian

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Kirk right, Well, they collapsed on that side of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see that guy in motion, you at least

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>got to respect the fact that they might flip it

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to it. Hey, we've seen end the rounds before, so

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you would think they would game plan for anything that

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>has hurt us in previous weeks. And anytime I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what we're going to see from the upcoming team,

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>what you're going to see is what you've already seen

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:49.719
<v Speaker 1>because you haven't shown you can stop it exactly exactly,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So at some point you got to think for yourself

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>out truly very true. The other part of it go

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>ahead making all I was gonna say, all I know

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>is it's really hired to win if you keep giving

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>up thirty eight points a game, right, And even against

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the Giants, they gave up thirty four, and of course

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>there was an interception return for a touchdown, so the

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>defense technically gave up twenty seven in that game. But

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it, too is just being aware of

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the situation, aware of the strength of the other team,

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>which which comes in preparation throughout the week. And they're

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when the coach doesn't have to tell you that

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you've got video. You know we I'm sure they're on

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>social media all the time. Turn that crap off every

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 1>once in a while and do like Sean Lee, get

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>in there and just watch a video. Just watch YouTube.

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:46.679
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be this great educated football player

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>just to study your upcoming competitions tendencies. You know, we

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about Worldly, we talked about Brown. I keep getting

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>his name after Brown to talking about these guys, and

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I have fuss about him all the time. I know

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I do. But once again, I can't necessarily blame them

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>too much because they are what they are. We've known

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>what they are for years now. Okay, why would we

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>expect something different from players who haven't shown us any

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff that we're talking about. Why should I

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 1>expect Brown to have any awareness doing the ball game?

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Why should I expect Worldly to cover the fastest man

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>on the team on the off on the opposing team

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>when he couldn't even cover a tight end in the

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>previous game against the Blitz. So what they're doing, I

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>can't really say I blame them too much. That's like

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>kicking a horse when he's down. But when it comes

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>down to it, we need to start signing more players

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>with that type of mentality that can make a difference

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>in this on this team. So let me ask you, Everson,

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a man with the fifty seven regular season interceptions in

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.479
<v Speaker 1>his NFL career, and another four I think in the

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>postseason for sixty one total. How much What would you

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>say the percentage of the plays that you made were

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the result of instinctive awareness type stuff as during the

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>flow of a game, during the flow of a play,

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to what you were assigned to do on

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 1>a play. That depends on what part of my career

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. When I first went out there, I

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>knew what the hell I was doing. I just couldn't

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>stop anybody consistently, and I had to say, Okay, this

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>defense is not made for me to necessarily make plays.

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna just I just I just said, you

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm gonna be aggressive within myself without trying

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to hurt the defense, because they're gonna come at me anyway.

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>So instead of just tucking my tail between my legs,

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I need to go head and rely on those instincts

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that you talked about. Bill. By the second half of

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the season, the clouds were gone. I wasn't playing in

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a fog as I was doing the first part. Of course,

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I had all the interceptions in the first part. That

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>was just a matter of survival. All of a sudden

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>when I get into a second part. Then we started

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>getting to the playoffs, we got into a championship game.

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Then years after that. Yes, instinctively, I would say, with

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the teammates that I had, and with the camaraderie and

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>cohesiveness that we had. As a secondary, almost my entire

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>game was about the instincts. Really, we communicated. You know,

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>if Ron Fellows was having problems on the other side,

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, then we wouldn't have helped him. But as

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>far as my play was concerned, that's the only way

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I was able to survive was through my instincts. Because

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>as much as we started off that you're in the zone,

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the teams always knew how to put us into man

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to man doing the progress of the play, which means

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna I'm gonna be by myself. So there's no

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't need any knowledge about what I'm doing. I

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>need knowledge about what they're doing right. And and so

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you were able to be instinctive in the way you

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>played because you had that knowledge of what the other

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>jan is exactly right. And so now I have to

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I have to get into their heads. I have to

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>get into their heads. And it's not about the game plan.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>The game plan is and it's in you, it's it's here.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>But when it comes down to it, you have to

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>shut the game plan. And if Larry Fitzgerald comes out

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>there at thirty eight years old or whatever he is,

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's third and eleven and you run a fourth

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>freaking two, he's probably running Everson Walls four seven. Lock

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>up on this, dude, Lock up on him. You you

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you got to get out of the fog. He was not,

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he was not. There was no clear thought process for

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>him at this point. He's reeling and he hadn't. And

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>our whole defense, a whole secondary, has been reeling all

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>all season long. That's the problem. We don't we don't

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>have the we're not controlling the pace of the game

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>in our secondary. All right, We continue with more mix

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>shots in a moment. That was my mix shots. That

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>was my wall shot right there. That was that was

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder where do you watch the game from when

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if people can can tour the press box and

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<v Speaker 1>We're on different different thrones during COVID nineteen protocol. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, the news regarding one does Bryant. He apparently

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>is on his way to Baltimore and there, you know,

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>he worked out for the Ravens in August and he's

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>headed back there with the idea that they're going to

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>sign him to their practice squad. If ever, all works out,

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and so does Bryant may have found an NFL home.

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>We shall see. What do you think? When do the

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys play the Ravens. That is a month or so away,

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>a little over a month away, So he's got time

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 1>to acclimate, to get through COVID nineteen protocol and maybe

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>gets elevated third. All right, so he's got a Thursday third. Yep,

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. That guy has been working non

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>stop after that Achilles injury a couple of years ago.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta admit, man, I've been pulling for him for

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>quite some time. Of course, he posts everything on social media,

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>so you can take a look at what he's trying

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to do. But man, he looks good. He really does

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>look good. But and everybody's like, well, why don't we

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>come back and play for the Cowboys. Well, he looks good,

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't look that good because we got some

0:35:51.480 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>even our backups right now at the wide receiver position. Yeah,

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>think you can play tight end anybody. I don't know.

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if ve is blocking on the line

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage. Ravens making another move as they have acquired

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a pass rusher Yunique and Gackway from the Minnesota Vikings,

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>who have decided to wave the white flag on this

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>season as they get a third and a conditional fifth

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>round pick for Ingaqway. Uh and the Ravens needed a

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher they got. They got to figure out a

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>way to get some pressure on Patrick Mahomes if they

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:39.720
<v Speaker 1>meet in the postseason and with a four man rush

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 1>and um so there you go, and Gockway goes to

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore and he's of course playing on the franchise tag

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this year. It looks like they got to figure out

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>how to complete some passes too. Quarterbacks struggling throwing the

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>pool Jackson, that's why they get there. That's why they're

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>bringing des Brian. Well, they're they're receiving corps not really

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>very well, but they're I mean, he's their leading rusher.

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Um but he's not thrown the ball as well as

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>he did last year. Have you recall that's gonna be

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be AFC Super Bowl team still got him.

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And that has been the question on Lamar Jackson h

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>in his career. I mean even going back to college

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and especially as rookie year, remember the playoff game against

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers he was I thought it was just remarkable

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to turnaround that he made passing the football from his

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>rookie year to his UH year last year when he

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>wins the MVP and um so, I don't know, you

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of times it's footwork, it's things like

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that that it's from a technical standpoint. We saw it

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>early in Dak's career where he would have some issues

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>and really had to focus on that. That may be

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>something Lamar Jackson has to do. I don't haven't watched

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>him closely enough, but you know when you look at

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>their weapons, they've got the home run threat in Hollywood Brown.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>But uh, and then Mark Andrews a tight end um.

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if if des can stay healthy and

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>if he's if he's got it, I mean he can

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>he could be productive for them. And not only that,

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I like the way that, Yeah, when you're talking Lamar Jackson,

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 1>it's so different because he can waste a play. You know,

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>he can miss a pass. Every once in a while,

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it happens, but you know that he has the ability

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.479
<v Speaker 1>to make that up with his legs. So I don't

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>think it's as glaring with the issues that that's Fags

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>was referring to earlier. Uh. Yeah, he might miss a

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>first down and ten guy might be open, but you know,

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>all he's got to do is keep it on second

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>down and he could still be left with another first

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>down or even the short third down. So he has

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>that luxury that other quarterbacks just don't have. What do

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>you think when what do you think when these defensive

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>coordinators are going to catch up with this concept that

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.479
<v Speaker 1>that guy can't beat me with his feet, He's gonna

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>have to beat me throwing the ball. You know. It's

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.399
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with Kyler Murray. He's have to beat

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>me throwing the ball, not with his feet. If I

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>got to put eight guys in the box and take

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>my chances, then I'll do that. Um. I mean he

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>had guys. I mean, they could have scored fifty points

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>if he just completed half his passes. He was nine

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 1>of twenty four. And Kyla Murray typically is a better

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>passer than what he showed the other night. And it

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>must have been that Cowboy defense. Huh. Actually, so they

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>actually Cowboys actually caught Kyler Murray on a night where

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't in sync and he was missing some throws badly,

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and some of it it might have

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>been not been in sync with a receiver or whatever.

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 1>And so that gets to your point when you talk

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>about these defensive coordinators and the running quarterback and so forth. Well,

0:39:56.040 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I would assume that the defensive coaches coach the cowboy

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Boys to guard against Kyler Murray running the football. And

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I would think and so part of it is carrying

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>out a game plan too, which, by the way, I

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>know we were kind of rushed to talk about this

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>yesterday with Sean Lee, uh, you know, doing a conference call.

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 1>That was no coincidence that Sean Lee decided yesterday he

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>was gonna have a conference call. Right. It wasn't like

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>they came to him. Oh, Sean, we haven't talked yet.

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Once you talked right now, he had his hand up

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 1>in the air and goes, let me go fix this, right.

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 1>And so after I listened to it and a bunch

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that he said, it wasn't like he

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>was being ass that he was offering stuff right. Right,

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>How do you know if somebody that's talking is not

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>even in our locker room, or how do you know

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not coming from an agent that didn't just happen

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>to come out of his mouth? Right, So Sean Lee

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>knew what he was doing. And that's why they need

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>him on the field. They need him on the field.

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 1>You were ever since said about they need leadership on

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>the field, somebody to take charge. You know, I thought

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 1>vander Esh was going to do that. Then he gets

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>hurt right away, and it takes a while when you

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>come back to not come back and try to big

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>time everybody. But they need somebody out there to kind

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of be the leader and get guys and let them know, hey,

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? You know you can't do that.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:35.439
<v Speaker 1>That's what they need, and so gosh, they just can't

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>get him back soon enough. Yeah, you just wish that

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the and I know everyone's flailing right now. It's kind

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>of hard to have a a professional relationship with the

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>way Mike Downs and myself had, you know, because we

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 1>were successful and because we had the best front line

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>ever in front of us, then we kind of had

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the luxury to sit back and talk about what we

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do in a ball game. We were always

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>in tune to what we needed to do. Charlie Waters

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>always in tune to what's going on doing the ball game.

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>When Charlie left Dexter Clean Scale. Yeah, this guy's one

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of the smartest people. I don't know, his entire family smart.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So you kind of rely on people who have those

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<v Speaker 1>attributes so that it can make you better as a player.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just about you, it's about the entire

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<v Speaker 1>secondary having some type of knowledge and continuity. We're tied

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<v Speaker 1>together as with a stream, right, so we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be coordinated. There is no coordination at all in the

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys secondary. Everybody's everyone seems like they're on their own

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<v Speaker 1>and covering their own asses right now. And it can't

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<v Speaker 1>be that difficult. We were not splitting the atom here

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>right just playing defense. It's about the willingness. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>the willingness to do it. It's like Dennis Rodman and rebounds.

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>He's six six, he rebounds everyone in the league. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to happen logically, but it's not all about that.

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>It's about what you're determined to do. It's rebounds about

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<v Speaker 1>how much you want it. And someone has to take

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<v Speaker 1>the initiative and show how much they want this thing

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Who's the who's the leader, who's the communicator?

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<v Speaker 1>In the secondary? It would have to be Thompson, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a safety. Now it would probably be Xavier Woods well,

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<v Speaker 1>with Xavier being mostly he was He's usually up with

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage. Am I wrong? Wow? But he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing he's doing both and they've been changing that safety

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<v Speaker 1>position every game. I mean Thompson this last yeah, Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>was he was playing as a as a dime. Donovan

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Wilson's back there. Xavier's back there. Uh, and now maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Parker will be back there even more that they signed

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<v Speaker 1>him to the fifty three man roster. And speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>dexter cling scale, that's the only other guy I ever

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<v Speaker 1>had the tail when he disappeared to well what the

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>eighties something or what I figured? I figured. I figured,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured we finished the show where we started, Mickey

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>tailing filthy man. Eighties they were a different beast. It

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>was a different beast better and he never came back.

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<v Speaker 1>He would not. He just went to the and he

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Indianapolis Coat. Okay, all right, Mickey, we

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<v Speaker 1>got maybe a minute left. You got another mix shot

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:37.720
<v Speaker 1>for us? Yes, no, I out with I used it already.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, we better let Chris go, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>better let Chris go to his y. They're on pace

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<v Speaker 1>to give up twenty seven hundred yards this year, So

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<v Speaker 1>if the Eagles win to night, they'll be what two

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<v Speaker 1>four and one, There'll be a half game up. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the Cowboys could fall out of first place if

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles win a night. And by the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles did put zach Ertz on ir today. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>ERTs will not be there next week when the Cowboys here,

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<v Speaker 1>Will you want to see a team he won't be

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a week left? Yeah, well yeah, it's uh, he's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be out three to four weeks for sure. And

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>they lose another tackle already or can't play tonight. Um

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>said again their tackle, the left tackle, I think their

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 1>third string left tackle who's supposed to play. Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk Eagles next week. But you talk about a

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 1>team that has as many injuries or more than the Cowboys,

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.799
<v Speaker 1>it's the Eagles. So they do have their quarterback though.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that does it for Mick. Shots for this Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh on a fabulous Friday. We've got ahead for

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<v Speaker 1>us tomorrow when we make our picks on the Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Washington game. Have a great Thursday. We'll see you tomorrow.

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