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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. Twitter misses you Mark.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's x man, it's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hansis. I got Mark Sessler here, and here's

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Speaker 2: the thing. Everybody unplugged for one moment. Okay, because here's

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Speaker 2: Mark talking into a microphone. You don't need to live

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Speaker 2: on social media. You got the real thing right here.

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Speaker 3: I have found it to be an interesting experience. I'll

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Speaker 3: still go on as a like a distant observer because

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Speaker 3: there's news happening in like, oh yeah, news, but what's

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Speaker 3: happened to Like I know this is already happening with

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Speaker 3: X me. The the algorithm of what they're feeding me

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Speaker 3: now has become complete total lunacy and has nothing to

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Speaker 3: do with anything that I used to like.

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Speaker 1: It's just because I would.

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Speaker 4: Like to see what you're getting served.

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Speaker 1: I will. I'll show you after the show for sure.

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Speaker 1: Also joining us. You heard her there?

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Speaker 2: Hi, she didn't get introduced, came in.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm here. Great to see you guys. What a

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Speaker 4: day the day we have in store?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, it's we got a Connie Wolf. We got

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Speaker 1: the tiniest of all boxes.

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Speaker 2: We got a Tuesday show with Colleen, not Tuesdays with Maury,

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesdays with Connie sitting in the Greg chair.

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Speaker 1: Greg on a well.

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Speaker 2: Deserved vacation in the tropics of the Pacific, so he

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Speaker 2: will be back next week. He's actually gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 2: tag each other out. I'm gonna head out for the

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Speaker 2: tropics after he returns. I was thinking, with Greg not here,

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Speaker 2: how can we make the most of this? This Greg

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Speaker 2: is an impossible person to replace on the show. Is

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Speaker 2: football acumen and his ability to disagree with everything cannot

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Speaker 2: be replaced. However, how about this the idea that is

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Speaker 2: he really on a tropical vacation. Do we know, for

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Speaker 2: instance that it Delaware isn't back together?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know.

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Speaker 4: Wow, there's conspiracy theories all over the place.

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Speaker 2: And then I actually have a file when Greg brings

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Speaker 2: up Delaware, because you know, I want the tapes Greg's

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Speaker 2: high school band, Delaware, And it says actual in my

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Speaker 2: notes cut and paste Delaware bio.

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Speaker 1: This is all I have right now.

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Speaker 2: But if you're out there, we're looking for the tapes,

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Speaker 2: the demos, the release of the album.

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Speaker 1: How do you Want It Cooked was the name of

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Speaker 1: the album.

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Speaker 2: I believe this was a follow up album or perhaps

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Speaker 2: a single Shiny Man went to frog Town. These are Delaware.

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Speaker 2: This is actual titles to Delaware material.

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Speaker 3: Was it an actual I don't know if they've produced

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Speaker 3: multiple albums, but sorry anyway.

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Speaker 2: The drummer, lead singer and keyboards, Greg Rosenthal. We're not

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Speaker 2: getting anything off him. Drummer Jeff Lash. That's traditional Jeff

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Speaker 2: spelling lash Lash.

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Speaker 1: He was the drummer Jeff.

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Speaker 2: If you're out there, if you were from Western Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: and you know a Jeff Lash, please reach out to

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Speaker 2: him and have him reach out to us with any

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Speaker 2: potential demos. Also, there's a guy named Andy in the band.

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Speaker 2: Don't have the last name, just Andy Andy from Western

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Speaker 2: mass If you're out there, we will give you a

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Speaker 2: signed eight x ten glossy of Mark Sessler in Levi

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Speaker 2: the jacket if you reach out to us with the tapes.

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Speaker 3: It's probably only two hundred and seventy five thousand andyes

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Speaker 3: in that area. So like it's spread a wide net

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Speaker 3: and get to work.

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Speaker 4: I have confidence in the subreddit. I feel like they

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Speaker 4: can they can mobilize and answer this for us. Also,

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Speaker 4: why hasn't there been like some type of sing off

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Speaker 4: with Greg, like you have to kind of trick him

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Speaker 4: into singing, and why hasn't there been a segment yet?

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Speaker 2: We have to He's sheepish about his musical past, and

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Speaker 2: I've tried to get that out of him, but I

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Speaker 2: do want to hear how do you want to cook

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Speaker 3: I would love that there was There was at one

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Speaker 3: to have, you know, the tapes. So they're out there,

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Speaker 3: and you know, we're getting in to the age where

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Speaker 1: Let's just positive that. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Wow, by the way, if anybody, we just were blown

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Speaker 2: away by the Patrick Claiband SOG submissions. If anybody wants

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Speaker 2: to take a crack on what Delaware might sound like,

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Speaker 2: he's he said there mid nineties alternative music, the vein

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Speaker 2: and like Greg had like a part down the middle, I.

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Speaker 3: Believe, with the marsh hair down both sides. At some

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Speaker 4: I remember there was a guy that I had a

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Speaker 4: well I'm gonna get into Silverchair too, just because he

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Speaker 1: The Australian Teens Silverchair. I remember that. Man.

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Speaker 4: I would love if the listeners submitted some songs for

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Speaker 4: Greg and specifically focused on what Greg sounded like on vocals.

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Speaker 2: And We'll give you, We'll give you the again the

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Speaker 2: titles of We'll choose Him as songs Okay, how do

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Speaker 2: you want it cooked? And shiny Man went to Frogtown?

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Speaker 2: Either of those give us a I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: Greg would really appreciate starting the show this way and

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Speaker 2: potentially extending this bit that he's been hoping to kill,

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Speaker 2: like the pix competition for years, undoubtedly, but instead the

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Speaker 2: old Zuzzar has turned into an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's what I does. Part.

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Speaker 3: That's what I don't doubt your your abilities to They

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Speaker 3: call me Sicky Davis for a reason, you know that. Yes,

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Speaker 3: all right, let's get into today's show, because we got

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Speaker 3: a good one coming up a little bit later. We're

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Speaker 3: going to sleuth the top ten of the NFL draft

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Speaker 3: far away from the draft.

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Speaker 1: Holy god, we're.

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Speaker 2: Inside a month now from the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Connie, I know right before you joined us

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Speaker 2: you were in hardcore scramble mode prepping for this show

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Speaker 2: because you were doing a.

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Speaker 4: Just did a mock draft live with Bucky Brook's latest mock,

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Speaker 4: his third one that he dropped. So just analyzing that

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Speaker 4: Lancer line, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: And you hosted the proceedings.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I did.

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Speaker 1: Where can people see that? Bye?

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Speaker 4: That is all Come on, It's all over the place.

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Speaker 4: It's on the network today and today is Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Today is Tuesday, March twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's on NFL Plus as well.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just your local listings.

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Speaker 1: Can you stack these assignments?

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Speaker 3: Do you feel better beforehand or do you feel better

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Speaker 3: when they are crossed off your list? I always feel

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Speaker 4: Everything has been accomplished. It is a little bit of

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Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm I'm prepared and I have a

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Speaker 2: Do you like it better on the hard thing is

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Speaker 2: in front of you or behind you? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think everyone's gonna have this similar.

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Speaker 3: Of course, but I think it's a little more asterisk

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Speaker 3: slash like special with Colleen because I understand when she's

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Speaker 3: a fair amount of palpable tension in the room when

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Speaker 3: she was in preparation mode. I was just imagine that

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Speaker 4: Oh it's I love when it's over everything. But I

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Speaker 4: my notes that I was preparing for this show while

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Speaker 4: I was hosting the other show, and I know that

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Speaker 4: this is not a visual medium, but my notes, look.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have a YouTube program. Can we get a tight.

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Speaker 4: Scrambled on a cocktail napkin? And this is what I'm

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Speaker 4: working with. So you know, it's uh, I can't even

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Speaker 4: read what any of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, slightly psychotic but on the back of the yeah,

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna do some draft stuff, as I said,

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Speaker 2: but we're gonna sleuth it like an old friend of ours.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get to that a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: But first we got a lot of news to get

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Speaker 2: to because the NFL owners meetings went down to Orlando,

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Speaker 2: and that's always a source of I don't know, intrigue,

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Speaker 2: that's a little strong. It's always a source of gruel.

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Speaker 1: For the old news.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you haven't been sent there, which is a

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Speaker 1: The good old days. They used to send us there,

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Speaker 4: All I do is hear about the swag. There's parties and.

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Speaker 2: The salad days. Yeah, as they say. Anyway, true back

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Speaker 5: To be inside the tent. And this is dropped picked

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Speaker 5: He's at the fifty. He's at the forty five of Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding? Rock and Roll touchdown Houston. My goodness,

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Speaker 2: Man oh Man, Mark vandermir with the call kilt. That

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Speaker 2: kickoff in Week three against the Jaguars, and impossibly he

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Speaker 1: And why do I play that?

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Speaker 2: Because you'll never see that again in the NFL, because

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Speaker 2: everything is different now. The NFL owners approved a massive

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Speaker 2: and I mean massive revamp of the kickoff on Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: after three days of discussions at the league's annual meeting,

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Sunday night at the stadium in Vegas, Like

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Speaker 2: how many times you get all pumped up at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the game, touchback, touchback, touch back, all throughout

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Speaker 2: the games. And so they finally decide to go with

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Speaker 2: a rule that's very similar, almost identical in fact, but

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season, kickers will continue to kick

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Speaker 2: players on the kickoff team will line up at the

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Speaker 2: receiving team's forty, so everyone other than the kicker is

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Speaker 2: nine members of the return team will line up in

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Speaker 2: a setup zone it's called between the thirty five and

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Speaker 2: It's a huge change in the way football will look

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be wild to watch for the first month

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Speaker 4: And when the XFL did this, there were more returns,

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Speaker 2: Also makes it, I would think, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's going to make it more congested

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Speaker 1: Do I have that right? Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In Super Bowl forty four, you cannot surprise the team

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Speaker 4: That it's so weird now you have to declare it.

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Speaker 4: It takes all.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to make the game safer.

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Speaker 2: But because of some changes they made in the onside

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Speaker 3: It's a trade off because obviously, like with the kicker

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Speaker 1: I think there's still work to be done to work

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Speaker 3: But I think the one thing it shows, because if

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Speaker 2: This like the change, no, the change to the dead

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Speaker 2: Like I like it.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if it works. It'd be weird if they

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Speaker 3: I tend to think, like, but that happens unless it's

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Speaker 3: another league. You move forward to the humility. I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, to pull from a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the NFL has not the first time that they've

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Speaker 1: But now we have a rule that they've taken.

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Speaker 2: As well, So you could argue, yes, it's good to

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Speaker 1: So then you can learn it's.

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Speaker 4: Like a best kitchen. Yes, we're going to see how

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Speaker 2: And one last thing before we move on to the

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Speaker 1: Wes.

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Speaker 2: The NFL has always been pretty good about messing with

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Speaker 3: And I think, uh, you know, that's tough too on

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Speaker 3: Argument initially that that wasn't even exactly what they're talking about,

441
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Speaker 3: that particular hip drop. Now they say it is that

442
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Speaker 3: it's part of the list that would not would have

443
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Speaker 3: been flagged. I think what it probably will will turn

444
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Speaker 3: out to be because I think it's fans are going

445
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 3: to it's a lightning rod if it. If it does,

446
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 3: I mean in the fourth quarter to a team finds

447
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 3: changed changed the way players tackled again.

448
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Speaker 1: But a lot of this started.

449
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Speaker 3: It was interesting to hear that, like when the Legion

450
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Speaker 3: of Boom rose up, that they were teaching those players

451
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Speaker 3: to in some cases tackle this way to avoid the

452
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Speaker 3: helmet to helmet. So now this is being taken away,

453
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Speaker 3: and I couldn't agree more with just from a physics angle,

454
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 3: if you're one of these defensive guys, how do you what.

455
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Speaker 1: Do you do?

456
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Speaker 2: Other changes? I like this one, This one's makes too

457
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Speaker 2: much sense. This one of those ones that never made

458
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: sense to me, that was even the way it was.

459
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 2: Now there's a new rule that allows teams to receive

460
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Speaker 2: a third challenge after one successful challenge. Previously, the team

461
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: had to be successful on both challenges to receive a third.

462
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Speaker 2: This proposal was submitted by the lines Good job, Detroit

463
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Speaker 2: makes all the sense in the world.

464
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Speaker 1: You don't just.

465
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Speaker 2: Because if the officials got something wrong and you corrected them.

466
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Speaker 2: You shouldn't have to go one hundred percent on your

467
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Speaker 2: challenges to get that challenge back. You should never lose

468
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Speaker 2: a challenge if you want a challenge, all right, if

469
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Speaker 2: there is oh another.

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Speaker 1: In other news, da da da da, the.

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Speaker 2: Teams voted down the fourth and twenty on side kick

472
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Speaker 2: altern So maybe try that rowelve years ago. Good news, Colleen,

473
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: but we'll see in a post Jason Kelcey world. No

474
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: ban on the tush push not going anywhere, and it's

475
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Speaker 2: all right, we'll see. It'll be interesting to see if

476
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles are still using it this year. Yeah, and this.

477
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Speaker 1: One also made sense.

478
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Speaker 2: I know Greg was honked about this, although I don't

479
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: think they went far far enough. The trade deadline is

480
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 2: being moved to the Tuesday after week nine. That's one

481
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Speaker 2: week different. So it's usually been right around Halloween, which

482
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Speaker 2: is week eight. Now it's the week after the Tuesday after.

483
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Speaker 2: You know, the Monday Night Football of week nine. I'd

484
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Speaker 2: say pushed even to ten or even eleven.

485
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Speaker 3: I could see that even like next offseason if it

486
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Speaker 3: seems to benefit everyone, all right, that should have happened

487
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Speaker 3: like in the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of can't believe that that it took

489
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Speaker 4: this long.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break here and then get into

491
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Speaker 2: more news. All right, moving on, we'll head back to

492
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Speaker 2: the owners meetings in a bit. But first, some news

493
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Speaker 2: that went down. This was a big name that had

494
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Speaker 2: been hanging out there, Lugarious Need, Super Bowl winning cornerback

495
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Speaker 2: of the Chiefs. He had been tagged by the Chiefs

496
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Speaker 2: but had been given permission to seek a trade. He

497
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Speaker 2: found a trade sent to the Tennessee Titans, who then

498
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Speaker 2: quickly agreed to terms with Snead on a four year,

499
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Speaker 2: seventy six point four million dollar deal includes fifty five

500
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Speaker 2: million guaranteed twenty million signing bonus. That from rap sheet. Obviously,

501
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Speaker 2: that was a contract that tells you that Sneed is

502
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Speaker 2: viewed as an up end cornerback and certainly the Tennessee

503
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Speaker 2: Titans are counting on him to be that.

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Speaker 1: Connie. The deal.

505
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Speaker 2: The trade, by the way, was Kansas City accepting a

506
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five third round pick and a swap of

507
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Speaker 2: seventh round selections. I wasn't blown away by the return,

508
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: but I'm always I always seem to be often on

509
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Speaker 2: what players can fetch in a contract in a trade

510
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 2: so they get a Day two pick back. The idea

511
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Speaker 2: that they could or my original thought that they can

512
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Speaker 2: maybe pair their top pick this year with the sneak

513
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Speaker 2: Hall to move higher up the board. Maybe it still works,

514
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Speaker 2: but it's something. It's just not a ton for a

515
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Speaker 2: guy that was a big time player for them.

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Speaker 4: It's not Kansas City. They've been planning though for this

517
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 4: loss for two years now, when they took Trent McDuffie

518
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: in the first round. They've selected a couple other quarterbacks

519
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: before that twenty twenty two draft was finished. But it's

520
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Speaker 4: like I think, for the Titans, this is great for them.

521
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Speaker 4: They've been trying to fix that secondary for so many years.

522
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 4: Their pass defense hasn't finished in the top half of

523
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Speaker 4: the league since twenty eighteen, and over the last four

524
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Speaker 4: years they've used four Day one or Day two picks

525
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Speaker 4: on cornerbacks alone. Look at Christian Fulton, Caleb Farley. I

526
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Speaker 4: could keep going but Lajerious Sneid is an absolute upgrade

527
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Speaker 4: for them. They also added Chadobi a Woozia during the

528
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Speaker 4: first wave of free agency, so they have now a

529
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Speaker 4: nice little group with Sneid, Ouzier and Roger McCreary in

530
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Speaker 4: the slot, plus their DC Denard Wilson. He was a DBI,

531
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Speaker 4: So you know that the emphasis is going to be

532
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Speaker 4: on that secondary and hopefully after all of these years

533
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Speaker 4: in purgatory, they'll be able to make some improvements.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you said it.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's I would have thought a couple of

536
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: weeks back that it would have been a second, not

537
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: a third. But if you're the Chiefs, you didn't want

538
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: this salary and you were ready to move on, and

539
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: so it's acceptable and I kind of trust the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: to make something to have it. But I don't know

541
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Speaker 3: for this franchise and trade thing. Like the terms, this

542
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: was a surprising term to me. I love it for Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Titans, who have been very active of

544
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: this offseason, but maybe haven't gotten the best grades overall.

545
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: This one, I can't quibble with this. They've now addressed

546
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Speaker 2: another key point part of their team by adding a

547
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Speaker 2: high end cornerback. So they're improving and we'll see what

548
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: happens next, maybe what we need to do, because this

549
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 2: happens to us all the time, and we're not alone.

550
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Speaker 2: We always think a player is gonna fetch more. Let's

551
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Speaker 2: just start, let's get ahead of it now, and just

552
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Speaker 2: it's attacked.

553
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Speaker 1: So whatever you think it's going to be, just drop

554
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Speaker 1: it down around right.

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Speaker 3: I think we could have we could have say that

556
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Speaker 3: not on the air, so that people start to just

557
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: think that innately we've grown that way.

558
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Speaker 1: But I'm with you one hundred percent. I'm not atit

559
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: added post. Yeah, I always feel that.

560
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Speaker 4: Way whenever we do. You're the GM and we're trying

561
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: to figure out trade values. I'm so bad at that.

562
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 4: I wasn't good at math, I'm not great at the finances.

563
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 4: And then the resource swapping is sort of in that

564
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Speaker 4: same vein sure. So yeah, I mean maybe if there

565
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: was like a class on that, it'd be cool.

566
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Speaker 2: Moving forward, Moving forward, We're going to have this nailed.

567
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Speaker 2: Let's head back to news out of the owners meetings,

568
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Speaker 2: where Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin said Russell Wilson has

569
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Speaker 2: quote pole position to open the years the team's starting quarterback.

570
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Speaker 2: This is the same team that also now has of

571
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Speaker 2: course Justin Fields, who also we kind of miscalibrated the

572
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Speaker 2: old trade market.

573
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Speaker 1: Up, No we didn't.

574
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Speaker 2: So here we go, yeah, edit that out and post

575
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Speaker 2: as well. Here is Mike Tomlin on the QB Sich Sich.

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Speaker 6: The term that I've used is Russell has pole position.

577
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Speaker 6: And why do I use that term because during this

578
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 6: time where we are not formally working, man, I just

579
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 6: think it's beneficial his experience International Football League, his process

580
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 6: that's been honed and perfected. Talking about over a twelve

581
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 6: month calendar is not only good for him, it's good

582
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Speaker 6: for teams. It's good for receivers, tight ends, running backs, etc.

583
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Speaker 6: All the things that people are that are really committed

584
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Speaker 6: to winning do this time of year. Russell has those resources,

585
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 6: man that structure, and so that's why I say he

586
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Speaker 6: has pole position.

587
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Speaker 7: Man.

588
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Speaker 6: It just creates a synergy that I think is good

589
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 6: for this time of year when it's time to compete.

590
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Speaker 6: We get in training camp like settings and going to

591
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Speaker 6: preseason stadiums and so forth. Obviously Just will be given

592
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Speaker 6: an opportunity to show his.

593
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Speaker 1: Capabilities preseason stadiums.

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Speaker 2: Wow, all right, I mean, I think will you parse that,

595
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: but it's yeah, they want Wilson to be the quarterback,

596
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: and they like that they have someone to be there

597
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: if Wilson is washed.

598
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: Also, if Justin Fields plays fifty one percent of the snaps,

599
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 4: that conditional sixth round pick turns into a fourth round pick.

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Speaker 4: So of course Russell Wilson is going to start the season.

601
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah.

602
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Speaker 3: I mean, and Mike Tomlin hasn't exactly been like the

603
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Speaker 3: Washington Post with his quarterback reports and updates to what

604
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: do you Yeah, it's.

605
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Speaker 1: Like not not a total wappo situation.

606
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Speaker 3: No, so I think like this is this is true

607
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Speaker 3: until it's not true, which is probably as soon as

608
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Speaker 3: Justin Field starts doing special things.

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Speaker 1: All right.

610
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Mike Tomlin, he was in conversation at I

611
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Speaker 2: don't know where it was. I think it was the

612
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: owner's meetings, makes sense. It was with John Lynch. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: that might have happened before. Okay, Uh, maybe it was

614
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: a pro day. You know these days, a lot of

615
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: things going on, a lot of gray area, a lot

616
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Speaker 2: of gray eye, a lot of who's what's and what

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00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: has anyway? Uh, and Tomin's like, hey man, what's going

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Speaker 2: on with.

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Speaker 1: The without you and uh, what's his sitch? That's his sitch.

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Speaker 2: Let's wa poo post saying on that anyway, John Lynch

621
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Speaker 2: came out of the owners meeting.

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Speaker 1: He said, no, Brandon and Yuke's not available in to trade.

623
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Speaker 2: In fact, uh, you know, my my coach Shanny, he

624
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: wants him to stay.

625
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Speaker 1: We're just using all abbreviations and nicknames. I love the show.

626
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Speaker 8: Nothing's going on there. We're actively talking with Brandon trying

627
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 8: to figure something out. And you know I always talked

628
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 8: we have a good history of working with the guys.

629
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Speaker 8: We want to get done, to get something done, and

630
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 8: it takes two sides. So can we do that? We'll see.

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Speaker 9: Hmm.

632
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 8: There's a number of different directions you know that it

633
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 8: could go. But appreciate that guy is a player and

634
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 8: want them to be a part of the Niners. So

635
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 8: we're going to work towards.

636
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Making that reality. My radar is going off a little bit,

637
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: really a little bit, like.

638
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm not now could by the end of his podcast,

639
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: could there be a newser that's out that's like brand

640
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: UK is now the top five highest paid wide receive

641
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: in the league. Certainly possible, But I think there's just

642
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: enough wiggle room in the way he was talking there

643
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: that the Niners are always a forward thinking team. Might

644
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: still be open to moving Ayuk at the right prices

645
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: if it means them being able to reboot and get

646
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: younger and cheaper at that position rather than have Debo

647
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Speaker 2: and Ayuk on the books in addition to all the

648
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 2: other talented, expensive players they have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think anything is possible with anything any

650
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Speaker 3: of these people are saying in March, like anything is

651
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Speaker 3: still out there as a possibility of someone.

652
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Speaker 1: That's our job, Mark Sessler.

653
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Speaker 3: But I don't so my cod My response is that

654
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Speaker 3: I don't think that this is a specific there's some

655
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: background suspicion here. I think I want to keep them.

656
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: You're the Niners, like your super Bowl window is wide open.

657
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: Like I'd say he was more important than Deebo Samuel

658
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: for large chunks of last year. Became a true star

659
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Speaker 3: and they waited a long time for that. So now

660
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Speaker 3: you move on and hope that someone else you fill

661
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Speaker 3: in the blank with, Like if.

662
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Speaker 2: You drafted Brandon, you drafted Deebo Samuel, Right, they Yeah,

663
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: that's the only thing I'm just I'm thinking of from

664
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: their perspective in a very rich wide receiver draft, if

665
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: they would ever get a little.

666
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: Here's the thing that they did say they wanted to

667
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: re sign Deebo Samuel, and they did, and even with

668
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: Jimmy g as messy as that got, they said, we'd

669
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: like to make this work, and they did until it

670
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 3: was completely over and they found another quarterback.

671
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Speaker 1: But they haven't.

672
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: If I think of Deebo went somewhere else, or story

673
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: Guy A B or Seed, and then I would believe

674
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: them a little less. I don't believe like Shanahan on

675
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: half the stuff he says, but I think they Shanahan

676
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: wants to keep his arguably best wide receiver.

677
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

678
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Speaker 4: Of course John Lynch is going to say that he's

679
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: not available until he is, but I think that he's

680
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: going to want to keep him around. I've been in

681
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 4: this social media rabbit hole though. That Brandon Ayuk. He

682
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: was really I think he was on a Twitter break

683
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 4: for a little while and then he got back in.

684
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: He dipped his toes in the water, and now all

685
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I'm looking at his ig store worries

686
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: and if you guys saw it, it's just emojis where

687
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: there's a cash sign someone talking, well.

688
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: Looks we got to retire that one a cow. I

689
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: think it's I.

690
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: Think it sounds to retire Ayuk is on fire. It

691
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 2: kind of is.

692
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: You're not into it.

693
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: It kind of just it had its Bothers made that one.

694
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

695
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: What if he was a jet and that was part

696
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: of the Jets situation, because.

697
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: Everything would be different, right, it's always different.

698
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: We love it and you're so shallow all your criticism

699
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: easily diffused by just turning him into a jet. No,

700
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: we could do better than Ayuk. We could do better

701
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: for him. Let's find a new Ayuke drop how about that?

702
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll redd it. But listen, I have a

703
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 4: delaware submissions and uh Ayuk submissions.

704
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Speaker 1: Giving him a little too much homework made. I don't know.

705
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: I feel like they'll still deliver.

706
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: I hope. I hope it gets traded. That would be exciting.

707
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: It'll be interested to see that that that move and

708
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: the team that that brings him in.

709
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Speaker 1: That would be cool.

710
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: All right, Well, well, so what do you think he

711
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: would net in the trade now that we're in this

712
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: new world, In the new world, like a low fourth

713
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: it would be I.

714
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: Would say he would he would bring back I would

715
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Speaker 2: think it would be like a first round, but that's

716
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Speaker 2: probably I would say bring back a third round pick third.

717
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Speaker 1: I mean that is like that is with.

718
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Speaker 3: The tax, with the internal secret we figured out, I

719
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Speaker 3: would think easily a sex So I shouldn't argue it.

720
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Speaker 3: I should say that sounds wised in unless it's first

721
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Speaker 3: round pick we think, and then it's a second round

722
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Speaker 3: pick tax.

723
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is.

724
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Speaker 4: I think second, I would say second, I guess.

725
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Speaker 2: We might find out. This would be the first big

726
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: test of this idea.

727
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: If it happens.

728
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Speaker 4: Brave New World, all right.

729
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Speaker 2: Let's see, by the way, thanks to Tracy Sandler on

730
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: Instagram for that. In other news, Robert Kraft, Oh, by

731
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: the way, let me frame it this way. I think

732
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Speaker 2: I know who's the next figure to be found or

733
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Speaker 2: not found, because they're buried under the mass Pike.

734
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Speaker 1: There's a couple of them. Matthew Hamachik.

735
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Speaker 2: He was the director of the ten part documentary series

736
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Speaker 2: The Dynasty on Apple TV Plus.

737
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: You heard like.

738
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Andrew Ciliano flowed it on the Around the AFC in

739
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: forty eight minutes that he was surprised by how pointed

740
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: it was at times, and what seemed to be criticism

741
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: of Bill Belichick, who of course is no longer with

742
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: the team, that became the only thing people really were

743
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: talking about about this documentary is like, Wow, that was

744
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: a little slanted pro ownership or anti Bill. Robert Kraft

745
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: wants you to know that that was not his intention,

746
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: and he feels like other Patriots that were involved with

747
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: the project, perhaps duped by the nature of the doc

748
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: short for documentary.

749
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Speaker 10: Felt bad that there was so much emphasis on the

750
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 10: more controversial and let's say challenging situations over the last

751
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 10: twenty years. I wish they focus more on our Super

752
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 10: Bowl wins, twenty one game win streak. You know, I

753
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 10: felt bad. There were players who gave hours and hours

754
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 10: of interviews and they felt only the negativity.

755
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: So oh.

756
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 10: Little disappointed that there wasn't more of a real positive approach.

757
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 10: Oh special man, man.

758
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: I think Robin is getting in that Jerry Jones flow

759
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: where if you're transcribing a Jerry Jones quote, no need

760
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: to stop the recorder, no point, just beautiful wight and type.

761
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Speaker 3: Truly, how about this, don't speak on camera if you

762
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: don't want it to be absolutely legally and rightfully used

763
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: in a documentary. Documentary is not an in house hype film.

764
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: It is meant to tell you a story, the good

765
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: and the bad. And I kind of find this like

766
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: a billionaire is unhappy with result of something. Well, you

767
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: can't have your way all the time.

768
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: Devin mccordy and Rodney Harrison both came out saying that

769
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: they had done hours and hours and hours of interviews

770
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: for this documentary, this docuseries, and the only things that

771
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: were used were the negative things that they said. So yeah,

772
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Speaker 4: that's how they felt.

773
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Speaker 1: A little different.

774
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 3: I get that, But like I guess part of it

775
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: is like why are we talking about it because it

776
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: was Newsy, Like if it was a bunch of people

777
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: glowing over the twenty one game win streak and the

778
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: Super Bowls, like we we all live that we've been there.

779
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel for McCardy if like you have,

780
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: if you've given all this time.

781
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Speaker 1: I get a little frustration. But it's like, filmmaker, want

782
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: to sign up for do it this is? And I

783
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't, I don't want to. I don't

784
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: want to.

785
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm uneducated on the topic, so I don't know. So

786
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: is this was NFL Films. Is this an NFL Films.

787
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: Project at all, because if it's not, I don't know.

788
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah they so if this was an outside project and

789
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: new paper terms, if it bleeds, it leads.

790
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: And that's all I'm saying is like I did see

791
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: why they were attracted to that part of it.

792
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: And we can act like if we're Robert Kraft, we

793
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: could act disappointed that there was too much focus on

794
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: the the the the last three or four years and

795
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: how Bill Belichick and Craft went from the most powerful

796
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: duo in football to estranged and separated. But that's an

797
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: important like whether he I know it's called the dynasty,

798
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 2: but if you're telling the story, you tell the story

799
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: of how the dynasty ended it too and then be

800
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: kind of becoming no longer on the same page.

801
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: That's a big part of the story. Like so I

802
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: don't know, I didn't want to.

803
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: I've seen one episode and I actually really liked it, so.

804
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: Like, I don't. I That's why I don't want to

805
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: get too deep into it personally. But you kind of

806
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: you got to expect people to focus on things like

807
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: that because I mean the fact that and I've been

808
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: hammering on this for for weeks and weeks on the show.

809
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: The fact that Bill Belichick couldn't get a job, like

810
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: he's just kind of a figure of fascination at this point.

811
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: Like what happened from is it just because he's older,

812
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: or is like what happened with Belichick within the ranks

813
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: of the NFL to be in this place?

814
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 5: Now?

815
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: Where did you watch the game?

816
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 4: Right?

817
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: And I think like news should be something that you

818
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: don't know versus something that we all know very well,

819
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: and it should be something that probably is unpleasant to

820
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: many people.

821
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: All right, let's see, let's see, let's see the Lions.

822
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: This was a weird story. Cam Sutton, cornerback of the Lions.

823
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: He has been released from the team after he was

824
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 2: involved with some legal trouble.

825
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: There was a period of time.

826
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: First of all was domestic battery by strangulation, that's the allegation.

827
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: There was a period of time and this happened like

828
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: you know, going into the weekend and stuff where no

829
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: one seemed to know where he was. And then like

830
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: the team president of the Lions, Rod Wood, admitted Monday

831
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: that the day before the Lions released him that he

832
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: was inside the team's facility and so you know, I

833
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: don't know how all that marries up exactly with the

834
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: quite wondering where he was. But that's why it's a

835
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: It doesn't look great for the Lions, but they've released

836
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: him and he's gone. He joined the Lines as an

837
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: unrestricted free agent last summer after spending his first six

838
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 3: seasons in the NFL with the Steelers, And we touched

839
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: on this around the NFC Connie that the back end

840
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: of their defense is a target for improvement and now

841
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: setting out of the picture, that becomes even more of

842
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: a glaring need for them.

843
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that's their heat. Their hand is forced when

844
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: the draft comes around, and how they're going to kind

845
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: of play this and just looking at some of the

846
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: mock drafts that are out there right now, not to

847
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: because I don't really want to focus too much on

848
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 4: Cam Sutton, like I don't know, I don't know what

849
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 4: the details are, but they don't sound good whatsoever. So

850
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: for the Lions, the fact that they're picking as high

851
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: as they are, we haven't seen that in years and years.

852
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: They have the twenty ninth pick in the upcoming draft,

853
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: and for a lot of them like yeah, they they're

854
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: probably gonna end up taking a corner. Maybe it's kool

855
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: aid McKinstry, maybe they take an edge, but I think

856
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: for them it would be really prudent to beef up

857
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: that secondary now that they lose Cam Sutton.

858
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: And finally in the news, we're gonna do a little

859
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: speed round. But last item here, they did it.

860
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 4: What happened?

861
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: The NFL did it? What they do.

862
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: I knew they were gonna do it, and they've done it.

863
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: The NFL has defeated Days. NFL won Days zero game over.

864
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: You thought that as big as a ratings hit the

865
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: NFL on Christmas was after they came for the NBA's

866
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: throat and stumped it, that they would say, well, we

867
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: got to wait a few years until it syncs up

868
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 2: with the calendar, because obviously can't play a football game

869
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, can't play an NFL game in the middle

870
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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 1: Right course, be contreur.

872
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: It will continue in twenty twenty four with two matchups

873
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: on the schedule, despite the holiday falling on a Wednesday.

874
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: It was announced matchups for the games, which will include

875
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: teams that played on the previous Saturday to account for

876
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: their recovery window, have yet to be determined. I am

877
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: sure those teams are going to be thrilled to learn

878
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: they have playing on a Saturday on a short week

879
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: and then have a turnaround.

880
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: Enjoy your Christmas. You got a game on Wednesday.

881
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: No, anyway, this is all of obviously, because the three

882
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: games played on Christmas Day twenty twenty three did massive ratings.

883
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: In fact, ESPN's Ravens Niners telecast that Gnarley Niners blowout

884
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: had over twenty seven million viewers, making it the second

885
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: high second most watched Monday night football game since nineteen

886
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: ninety six, almost thirty years when TV was a totally

887
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: different thing.

888
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: Good job yours.

889
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: So there it is. NFL one Day's zero got them.

890
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: It's well, it's saying so predictable.

891
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: Here's what the scheduling tick that concerns me, because you know,

892
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: you get into late December and these four teams that

893
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: might have looked like we're gonna combine them for incredible

894
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: matchups back in April, like you know, the three of

895
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: them could be roadkilled by then with like the third

896
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: quarterback plane and we have to see them in Island

897
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: games two weeks in a row. But beyond that, I

898
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: think we made the prediction that they were going to

899
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: find a way to have games on like May Day,

900
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: and I think we're only a couple of weeks from

901
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 3: that happening for weeks years, please.

902
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: Man, most every day of the week. Why not. It

903
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: was like during the pandemic, we did it so and

904
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: what great times they were. Tuesday night football, Wednesday night football.

905
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: Let's just keep going.

906
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: But everyone digs this except people working football, and so

907
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: most people were probably shut up.

908
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: I will say like this past year, on Christmas Day,

909
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: I wasn't working because I worked Christmas Eve, and I

910
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: went to a friend's house who big Niners fans, the

911
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 4: whole family, and we sat at this big, long table

912
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 4: and they had a projector on the wall and the

913
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 4: hearth and every and it was so it felt right

914
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: like it was nice to sit around and watch the

915
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 4: Niners lose with Niners face.

916
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: All right, eightclck delights kind of you cunny, Yeah, I

917
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: hope you're invited back.

918
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: Saints tackle Ryan Ramcheck, his knee issue, could miss the

919
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: entire twenty twenty four season. The in season hard knocks

920
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: could feature four teams from the same division.

921
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: Huh okay, you lov uh yeah.

922
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: Further for Ramcheck, I mean, and the Saints they have

923
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: so many needs, they have so many holes on that roster,

924
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 4: and now they're probably going to have to draft a

925
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: tackle right away because of Ramcheck.

926
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Damian Harris, the running back veteran running back retires. He's

927
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: only twenty seven, I believe, and he had some really

928
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 2: nice years with the Pats, went to the Bills, suffered

929
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 2: a pretty serious injury.

930
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: Now he steps away from the game.

931
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: The Browns are looking to extend their GM and head

932
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: coach Barry and Stefanski and maybe be building a dome.

933
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Mark what's going on there?

934
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: Well, they absolutely want to either take their current stadium

935
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: and make massive renovations to it. But the Haslams talked

936
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: about a dome which had been floated in the past.

937
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: Well, the Bills are doing it right.

938
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 3: I don't as a you know, a longtime Brown's follower,

939
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: I'd like them to play in the mud and the snow.

940
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: What else advantage do they have?

941
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, Miami has made it off or to Odell Beckham,

942
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson. If we don't trade Zach, we're going to

943
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: keep them. They're backpedaling on that one. They're eyeing Ja

944
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: Davian Clowney and the Bears and Texans will play the

945
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game starting off the season.

946
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: Kanye, I just saw.

947
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 4: The Odell Beckham junior Kim Kardashian broke up.

948
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 9: So.

949
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know they I didn't know either. I feel

950
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: like what I should What is up with that Kim Kardashian.

951
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: She's always in the news like she'd want to go

952
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: to Miami every ant with someone paining her way, although.

953
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: She's probably way richer than him.

954
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, ten times, let's take a break

955
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: and we'll do some investigating.

956
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Welcome back.

957
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes getting to the bottom of a mystery requires you to.

958
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 11: Get your hands dirty, work in the shadows, turnover rocks.

959
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 11: But we're never meant to be turned over, and that's

960
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 11: why it's time to go full Signetti on the top

961
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 11: ten of the NFL draft.

962
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Mark. You asked, what is full Signetti mean?

963
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I can only imagine he's been on some

964
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: tough cases in the past. He's unearthed some problematic human scenarios.

965
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: This one seems broadreaching.

966
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: I've been wondering where he's been Frank Signetti.

967
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: I did a little investigating of old Frank Frank the

968
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: tank Signetti. How long we've been mentioning this man in

969
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: the show a decade, the offensive coordinator of the then.

970
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Rams.

971
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: In two thousand and fifteen, he was the OC and

972
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: then bounced around in different position rooms for the Giants

973
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: Packers Boston College. He recently got let go by Pitt

974
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: in the colleging. So he's you know, he's been on

975
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 2: a lot of different investigations.

976
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: It's a hard scrabble detective.

977
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: We always thought that Frank Signetti private eye, So why

978
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 2: don't we get our full Signetti on and figure out

979
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: this draft the top of it.

980
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 4: Anyway, I would love that, you know, Signetti, he's been

981
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 4: working a lot of cases, a lot of cold cases,

982
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 4: and I mean the nights, the weekends, the hours that

983
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: he spends and his dedication to his craft is just

984
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 4: I haven't seen anything like it. So whenever I have

985
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 4: an issue, a question, I need a little PI work,

986
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 4: I always go straight to the source. I go right

987
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 4: to Signetti.

988
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: I'd say he's pretty teflon too, and he's he's resilient

989
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: because I'm looking at the most recent headline about him

990
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: that I can find. Yeah, what went wrong in the

991
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: Frank Signetti junior era at pitt so's he's got to

992
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: lead a double life.

993
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: He's got to be.

994
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: Willing for these things to fail because his time becomes

995
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: too absorbed in these cases.

996
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: They pull him in and they're asking questions in Western Pa.

997
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: But guess what. Frank just slips into the shadows and

998
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: he's gone, who's that guy?

999
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 9: The trench coat gone, never saw him, and the fedora gone.

1000
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. So we're gonna get

1001
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: our signetti on here. We're gonna and what does that mean?

1002
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: Because it seems pretty nebulos? What does it mean? What

1003
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: does it mean? We each split We split up the

1004
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: top ten of this draft because we can go one

1005
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: through thirty two, but you can go anywhere for that.

1006
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: Everyone knows those first ten picks, and then just in

1007
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: addition to just being the most high profile picks of

1008
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: a draft, they kind of set the tone for the

1009
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: rest of the draft board. So we each split it

1010
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: up and based on everything that's out there, all the reporting,

1011
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: anybody you've talked to, any again, rocks that were turned over,

1012
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: any meetings and diners where you know the thing you do.

1013
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: One guy sits in the booth one way and the

1014
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: other guys sitting in the other booth and they either

1015
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: slide a bag across the floor and the other guy leaves,

1016
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: or they just have full on conversations with the menus

1017
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: in front of them like.

1018
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. Yeah, that's stuff we do. I have

1019
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: a skill set, Yeah, to learn.

1020
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: That's where you meet big time parking garage exactly, always

1021
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: not well lit.

1022
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: At all, subterranean level, gotta go all the way down.

1023
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: And you know, cigarette smoking continues to be on the decline,

1024
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: but you have to sometimes pick up the old nicotine stick.

1025
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: You need it.

1026
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: Pack and darts. Gotta pack and darts.

1027
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: So let's get to it.

1028
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: I'll get it going with this investigation doesn't need a signetti.

1029
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. This number one overall pick Watergate scenario.

1030
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: Everyone knows that the Bears are going to take Caleb

1031
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: Williams with the number one overall pick, and I should

1032
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: just so we're not going to dwell on this because

1033
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: we've got the Bears coming up later and I'll do

1034
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: a little deep dive on that, which is certainly more intriguing.

1035
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: But I do think it's just notable that and some

1036
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: teams are like this in these type of.

1037
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: Drafts where we all know who's going number one.

1038
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: But in many instances teams are still needlessly cloak and

1039
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: dagger about it.

1040
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: Sure that's not the Bears.

1041
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: They they're talking openly about Williams, you know, going to

1042
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: his pro day and and and speaking on him, and

1043
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: you know, not even trying to be cute about the

1044
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: Justin Fields thing. They're like once they granted they didn't

1045
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: maybe get the most value they could with Fields, but

1046
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: they made it a point to clear the path for

1047
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: this rookie to come in and be the guy with

1048
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 2: no distractions and of course build up a real nice

1049
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: infrastructure around him. So Caleb Williams of USC will be

1050
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: the first pick. And I don't really maybe I failed

1051
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: it in my Signetti tasked to do any more diving

1052
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: in this one. But sometimes you got to know when

1053
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: to stop turning over rocks and just be like it's

1054
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: staring right at you.

1055
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: Don't want to get too cute. But maybe maybe others

1056
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: might not be able to see what you've seen. But

1057
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: Frank Signetti suss this out with no issues, and there's

1058
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: not a lot good job around it.

1059
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Signetti's time is precious. If he knows the answer,

1060
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: He's moving on to the next case.

1061
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: Colleen, does he know the answer?

1062
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: I like now that we've had a subtle shift in

1063
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: the seg and now we are Frank Signetti and I

1064
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: like this. Okay, So Frank tell us about the Washington

1065
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: Commanders at number two.

1066
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: What are you hearing? What have you learned?

1067
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 4: Well, what I've done here is I put a tail

1068
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: on this Peters guy. Adam Peters mark the new GM

1069
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: his nineteen eighty nine black Lincoln Continental with the maroon

1070
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 4: crush velvet interior, moonroof eight track player. It was on

1071
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: my radar immediately. I knew that something was up. Where

1072
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: was he going in this car, where was he parking?

1073
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: What was he using it for? And he was using

1074
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 4: it to check out these quarterbacks because there's no doubt

1075
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: in my mind that the Commanders will be taking a quarterback.

1076
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: The question is which one Caleb Farley going to be

1077
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 4: off the board? That's fine, But this draft, it starts

1078
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 4: at too with Adam Peters, and he's got to get

1079
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 4: this right. New organization, new owner, new times, new quarterbacks

1080
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: got to come through. And when they got rid of

1081
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: Sam Howell, I felt like that was a very interesting

1082
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 4: shift because most mock draft out there have the commanders

1083
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: taking Jaden Daniels. Most people right now talking about the

1084
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: commanders and surrounding the commander's organization seemed pretty pretty steady

1085
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 4: on Jadeen Daniels, the Heisman winner. That's the most popular pick,

1086
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: and it would go well with their offensive coordinator, their

1087
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 4: new one there, Cliff Kingsbury, because it's the same type

1088
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: of quarterback that he had in Arizona with Kyler Murray. However,

1089
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: the pell Raiser, I wouldn't normally out my sources like this,

1090
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 4: but pel Raiser came right out and said it himself.

1091
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 4: So I'll let you guys know what he said. And

1092
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 4: he said that of all of the decision makers he

1093
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: was talking to at the owners meetings, they think that

1094
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 4: Washington will go JJ.

1095
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: McCarthy So, oh that would shake it up.

1096
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 4: Okay, is this legitimate? Is it a smoke screen? It

1097
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 4: is a classic smoke screen season right now. So you

1098
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: got to watch your back. You don't know who's giving

1099
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: you bad information, who's an actual narc I mean, you

1100
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 4: have to really wait what you're hearing and triple source

1101
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 4: check everything every time. But in this line of work

1102
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: sometimes you don't have that luxury. So when the commanders

1103
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 4: sent Sam Howell to Seattle. That made me think and

1104
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 4: made me believe that they will be drafting Drake May

1105
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 4: because Drake May and Sam Howell were best friends, former

1106
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: UNC teammates. Interesting that was one of May's best friends,

1107
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 4: his mentor, they obviously played together. So it felt real

1108
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 4: spicy when the commanders, who for all of these years

1109
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: stood by their man Sam Howell, and then right before

1110
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 4: the draft send him back into Seattle. Got to get

1111
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 4: yas that's rich.

1112
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 3: That's a rich bit of evidence right there, that Jeremiah

1113
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: kat Yeah, he's.

1114
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: I got some of him, I got some stuff on him.

1115
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: Going to be trusted, I don't know. On the outside,

1116
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: he appears to be of high care.

1117
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 4: Squeak.

1118
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they call him the wholesome assassin. He's got Drake

1119
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: May going there as well. And if that is indeed

1120
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: what happens, and it is Caleb Williams and Drake May

1121
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 2: one two that takes us to the New England Patriots.

1122
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: And I'm hit to this.

1123
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: Mark Sessler cap He's all over this.

1124
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 3: This was a fortress for many many years in England.

1125
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: And you know, Bill Belichick was a person that allowed

1126
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 3: no other sources in the building because he essentially played

1127
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 3: all the roles himself and anyone that did investigate too

1128
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: far into going bye bye yep, were you an innocent

1129
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: little ball boy?

1130
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they even have this is a true story at

1131
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: Patriots headquarters. They have a backo that has the Pat's

1132
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: logo on it that they used to break ground and

1133
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: bury people.

1134
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: Openly because that was a again, it was a fortress,

1135
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: and like.

1136
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 2: You know, the States were in their back pocket. There

1137
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: was there's I mean to different era.

1138
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: They're bought off all theses.

1139
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: That directed that documentary will be another test case of

1140
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: the might of the Patriot way.

1141
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 3: Signettian friends see something different right now though what they say.

1142
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 3: I see that the walls of the forgers have willingly

1143
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: and openly come down to some degree, and what would

1144
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: have been a monumental investigation for me looks at it

1145
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: looks to me just to be a situation with multiple

1146
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: unknown final solutions. But I'm going to guide you to

1147
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: what I think will happen here. Take us DRAWD Mayo

1148
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: has been we don't need a triple source when d

1149
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: Mayo is telling you things himself. And I think here's

1150
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 3: the difference between DRAWD Mayo and eighty eight.

1151
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: Percent of the coaches out there.

1152
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: He's openly said, I don't know how good of a

1153
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: he said, I don't know how good of a head

1154
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: coach you'll be.

1155
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if my general manager can do it.

1156
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 1: We don't know yet.

1157
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 3: And he said basically, look, I we are still a

1158
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 3: team that needs so many things. They need offensive tackle,

1159
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: wide receiver, quarterback, running back, defense. So priority is quarterback

1160
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: to get one. But he has talked highly about Jacoby Brissett.

1161
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: And I think this is a team because they need

1162
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: so much and he's asked for patients that they want

1163
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 3: to create the environment where they can grow with maybe

1164
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: multiple draft picks. And I think that because of what

1165
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 3: happens at number two, again, the future is somewhat of

1166
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: an unknown element.

1167
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 4: A beautiful mystery. Aaron Rodgers would absolutely.

1168
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: I think that trading down.

1169
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: Might be their preference because I think then the Patriots

1170
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 3: they have Jacoby Brissett, can get you through this season

1171
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: and you could acquire multiple draft picks and start to

1172
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 3: rebuild a team that lacks weapons all over the place.

1173
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 3: And I think he's very open to that. This is

1174
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: not a one person operation. I'm leaning in that direction

1175
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: right now overtaking the third quarterback in the draft that

1176
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: they may not be in love with.

1177
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: All right, So and your study of the reporting around

1178
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: the team indicates at willingness to do that. Now my

1179
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: question that I'd have for Signetti and his associates the

1180
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: Patriots have the stomach to potentially pass on an instant

1181
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: game changer at three when we know, ay, moving back,

1182
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: however far you move back, gives you less of a

1183
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: chance of addressing that position effectively.

1184
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: And b we already know there's not a lot of.

1185
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: Hype around the Cats at the quarterback position next year,

1186
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: so this they It's hard for me to imagine that

1187
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: the Pats are going to look this opportunity in the

1188
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: eye and say we're gonna build the roster in a

1189
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: different way.

1190
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: I think they're going to take a swing here. I

1191
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: really feel that.

1192
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: So I think it's not it's a possibility, But I

1193
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: do think this that they just parted ways with a

1194
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: very high, highly drafted quarterback, and I believe they want

1195
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: to create a better environment for who they bring in.

1196
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: And I'm not worried about next year's draft class, and

1197
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: I don't think they are yet. If it was anyone

1198
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: who would be Jade and Daniels, but you've got to

1199
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: see who falls them. I don't think it can be

1200
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: the just the third guy they like off the board.

1201
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 4: Unless it's JJ McCarthy and they go ahead.

1202
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: With that would fit quarterback. I don't think he's going

1203
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: to be there, I agree with I think he may

1204
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: go number two.

1205
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: Actually that factor.

1206
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: Didn't and then see the Patriots then passing on the

1207
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: presume number two pick, that would be a whole ton

1208
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: of guts and it would leave them wide open for

1209
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: second guessing. I'll just say this. You mentioned they took

1210
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: a big swing on mac Jones. That was you know,

1211
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: it was a first round pick, but it's a fifteenth

1212
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: overall pick. So now they're living up in the in

1213
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,959
Speaker 2: the penthouse of the draft at number three. And when's

1214
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: the last time the Patriots have been up there with

1215
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: a chance to take a quarterback. We'll see, we'll see.

1216
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm not refuting anything Signetti and his people.

1217
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 3: I would say, unlike the Chicago report and maybe even

1218
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 3: the Washington that the Patriots are the first like they

1219
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: could go A or B and we need more time

1220
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: in this investigation to some degree, which.

1221
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: Takes us to the Cardinals. What are they saying six.

1222
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: The Cardinals control the entire draft in my opinion, because

1223
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: we get it like we're running out of quarterbacks at

1224
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: number four and the Cardinals. I was looking this up

1225
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: and mentioned this before the show, and this is what

1226
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: creates the conundrum in our investigation. They need a wide receiver,

1227
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: they need an edge rusher, they need a cornerback. They

1228
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 3: need defensive line, they need offensive tackles. They need interior

1229
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: offensive line. That's your entire offensive line. They need linebackers,

1230
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: running backs, quarterbacks, a quarterback, tight end, safety, punter, kicker,

1231
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: and long snapper.

1232
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said, except for quarterback.

1233
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: That's well, take a backup quarterback, but that was rucially,

1234
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: that's deep down the list.

1235
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: But crucially, SIGs, that's deep down.

1236
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: They don't need a quarterback, which is what I think

1237
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: what you're getting at here.

1238
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: They don't need a quarterback. But look at their wide

1239
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 3: receiver room right now. Michael Wilson, good number two developmental guy,

1240
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: maybe two point three, Greg dertsch Zach Pascal. You have

1241
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior sitting there, and I think what Cardinals

1242
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: fans want for Kyler Murray and what they want for

1243
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: their team after that, you know, unlike not only like others.

1244
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: They passed on Adrian Peterson back on the day, they

1245
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: passed on Terrell Suggs back in the day. These are

1246
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 3: like arrows that stick in Cardinals psyche going way back.

1247
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: And so now the bloodline of Marvin Harrison is dropping

1248
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 3: to you at number four, presumably. And yet I my

1249
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: investigation tells me that GM monteasen Fort, just like last year,

1250
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 3: is very willing for a team with all those needs

1251
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 3: yes to trade down. And this is where I think

1252
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 3: the trade down happens. And this is where I believe

1253
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 3: that the Denver Broncos. It was Sean Payton who called

1254
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: monte ausen Fort one of the luckiest guys around and

1255
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 3: realistically saying that this is where someone.

1256
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: You stepping on your mock draft, Mark, be careful here

1257
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: stepping on my own mock draft.

1258
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is that's Frank Signetti.

1259
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: I think they are.

1260
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: I think this because this is where if it does

1261
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: and I believe I think Trey activity is going to

1262
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: be wild in the first five picks.

1263
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots could be doing it.

1264
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: But if the Broncos, for instance, can get a better

1265
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 3: offer from the Cardinals and don't believe the Patriots would

1266
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 3: take their quarterback. But that's danger zone. I think the

1267
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 3: Cardinals are trading the pick down, okay, And there's a

1268
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: number of people, the Vikings, the Broncos that could trade up.

1269
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 3: I really think the Vikings are love it here.

1270
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: I love where you're coming from, Connie or Frank new

1271
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: what Frank three point zero makes so.

1272
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: Much sense because that's the point I was trying to

1273
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: make was that if they were a team that needed

1274
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback and they're in the top five, take a

1275
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: swing at a quarterback or even move up to get

1276
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback you want. But they have this ability to

1277
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: build the team with high level picks and trading out

1278
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: of that spot to accumulate make they make so much sense.

1279
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: And getting the best wide receiver on the on the board. Also,

1280
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: you couldn't kill them for it, but they could still

1281
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: get a big time wide receiver in addition to multiple

1282
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: extra first picks, including potential first round picks.

1283
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 4: But you could kill them for drafting a wide receiver

1284
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: in that spot because this draft is so stacked, so

1285
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 4: deep with wide receiver point into it. So with all

1286
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 4: of those needs that they have, trade down you're still

1287
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 4: going to get an incredible wide receiver and some other

1288
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 4: amazing blue chip players unless.

1289
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: They see that wide receiver and so we're all like

1290
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: in lockstep that it feels like an offensive skilled player here.

1291
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: They're so in love with him. They see them as

1292
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame talent.

1293
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: If they see like another Larry Fitzgerald on the board,

1294
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: in their opinion, maybe how can you kill them if

1295
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: they if they're that strong and that feeling it they're again,

1296
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: because that could change that whole organization and give Kyler

1297
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: a reboot. Interesting yep, Alien and Signetti here we go. Okay,

1298
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: another interesting team. I'd love to know what you what

1299
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: you've seen, what you've heard, who you're talking to?

1300
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: Back to back diner stuff. Los Angeles Chargers.

1301
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 4: So many diners. I've been to so many diners, so

1302
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: many years. Actually investigating this team, it seems like they

1303
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: always have a nose for trouble. They're always getting themselves

1304
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 4: into these situations and following them over the years. It's

1305
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: like they can't get out of their own way. So

1306
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: this time, though, it feels different. It feels like they

1307
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: got to get this draft right with Jim Harball there

1308
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 4: now because he might have Joe Horretz sleeping with the

1309
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: fishes if this does not pan out correctly, if this

1310
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 4: first round pick, which I mean that is the most crucial,

1311
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 4: crucial one, and I feel like there's been plenty of

1312
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 4: clues as far as what they might do, but a

1313
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: real breakthrough at the owner's meetings when Jim Harball was

1314
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 4: talking about that fifth pick and how excited he was

1315
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 4: to have it, and he said, hey, if four quarterbacks

1316
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 4: don't go in a row, he said, you know, maybe

1317
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 4: maybe there's still another quarterback where we are when the

1318
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 4: fifth pick comes around, somebody wants to and then stopped himself.

1319
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 4: So again, that'd be like having the number one pick

1320
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 4: for us. But seems like he wants to trade down,

1321
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: and if he does, plenty of options here. You can

1322
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 4: acquire picks from a quarterback desperate team. You can get

1323
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 4: a wide receiver, because look at their current wide receiver group,

1324
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 4: I mean, Quinton Johnson, Josh Palmer, Darius Davis Faoco. This

1325
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 4: is not Keenan Allen and Mike Williams anymore. They're gone.

1326
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: They stripped the entire cupboard.

1327
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, So maybe they do end up getting

1328
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 4: a Marvin Harrison Junior, if the Cardinals opt to trade

1329
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 4: out of that spot. I mean, Harball knows him well

1330
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 4: from coaching at Michigan, having to face Ohio State so

1331
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 4: many times, and what Marvin Harrison did to him and

1332
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: his teams at Michigan wasn't good. But also, maybe he

1333
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 4: goes Joe Alt. Maybe he gets the best offensive tackle

1334
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: out there, gives someone that can protect Justin Herbert after

1335
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: all of the injuries that we've seen from Herbert over

1336
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 4: the years, plus the run game that Jim Harball is

1337
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 4: absolutely in love with. Maybe he goes with someone up front.

1338
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 4: But I could also see them grabbing a tight end

1339
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: this high because Rock Bowers one of the most talented ever.

1340
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 4: And in the AFC West where the Chargers are and

1341
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 4: they're constantly playing the Chiefs and looking at a guy

1342
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 4: like Travis Kelce. You have George Kittle out there who

1343
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 4: played in the Super Bowl as well. Tight Ends are

1344
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 4: different now and this guy can catch, he can run, block,

1345
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 4: he can do it all. He's a good route runner

1346
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 4: as well. So Jim Harball loves a good tight end.

1347
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: And that's one right there.

1348
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, And this is the team with serious history

1349
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: at the tight end position Kellen Winslow senior Tonio Gates.

1350
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: That would be a Stunn this one to me. Signetti

1351
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: really screams to me, and bad coffee and run down the.

1352
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 4: Wrong there's no cream, there's no sugar.

1353
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: Screams to me.

1354
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 2: Alt The tackle that aligns with what Harbor is looking

1355
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: to do. Is anything you're reading seeing anywhere about JJ

1356
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: McCarthy the quarterback.

1357
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 4: No Harb, No Harball has Justin Herbert.

1358
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: I know, but what if what if? Well, in that

1359
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: case you that would break the case wide open.

1360
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: Well, and we have discussed the discussed little whispers on

1361
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 3: this front before that, or maybe they were self created

1362
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: whispers on just you know, trying to try possibilities.

1363
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: Isn't it just weird the timing of it all that

1364
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: you would think Harball is kind of an intense dude

1365
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 2: that just spent all these years at Michigan, and maybe

1366
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: he loves that kid and it just so happens.

1367
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: That he's there.

1368
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 3: If that's how you felt, I think what you have

1369
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 3: to do is find a way to make a blockbuster

1370
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 3: franchise alter in trade of Justin Herbert to one of

1371
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: the teams above you, because JJ is not going to

1372
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: be there at number five that all we have, every

1373
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 3: clue in the book is telling us that he is

1374
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: like one of the He is someone that is not

1375
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: going to be available.

1376
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: You have a clue book. I feel like that would

1377
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: be helpful. Can I get that?

1378
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 3: Can I read the tea leaves are burning? And like I,

1379
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 3: JJ is long gone by then. So that would make

1380
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 3: the Chargers, who seem like a trade down candidate, have

1381
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: to trade.

1382
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: And I know Chargers fans are screaming like, don't even

1383
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: bring this up.

1384
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.

1385
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 2: But that's what we got to do because we're we're

1386
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 2: outside the mainstream right now. You have to think you're

1387
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,479
Speaker 2: in the underground way and we're just wondering about that.

1388
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: That's right. So a tight end, maybe a tackle.

1389
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: Wide receiver, wide receiver, maybe the biggest trade of the

1390
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 3: last fourteen years.

1391
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: That would shake things up, really would. Let's take a

1392
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: break and we'll hit the rest of the back. Take

1393
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: that base for a walk.

1394
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, come in slow on the high hat Billy

1395
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 1: Bob article their ivories, they saying, make that horn sing.

1396
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable. Number six, All right, number six.

1397
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 4: We got the giants. All right, I've been up here

1398
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 4: all over the Jersey Turnpike, up and down that drive.

1399
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 4: It's a lonely drive, it's a grueling drive. But it's

1400
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 4: time to really go over the clues, the cold cases,

1401
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 4: the various hunches you might have. You just got time

1402
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 4: time to think to yourself.

1403
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the worst thing to do all alone with

1404
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: your own thoughts.

1405
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: But it's all part of the investigation, all part of

1406
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 4: the job. And part of that was to hear what

1407
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 4: John Marra had to say about Joe Shane and Brian

1408
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 4: Aball going into year three together at the owner's meetings.

1409
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 4: That's what I needed to hear.

1410
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: What did the big man say?

1411
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 4: Well, John Marra came out and said, if Joe Shane

1412
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 4: and Brian Abell have conviction on a quarterback at the

1413
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 4: top of the draft, he supports going in to get him.

1414
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 4: He's still confident in Daniel Jones, but says, why not

1415
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: bring in someone to compete and let the best man win.

1416
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 4: He also said that it's ridiculous the Giants haven't fixed

1417
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 4: their offensive line after all these years, so I don't know,

1418
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 4: maybe one of these could be a red herring, you

1419
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 4: don't know.

1420
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: I thought it was very notable that the big Man

1421
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: Mara seemingly gave the green light to make the move.

1422
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: A make a move on QB.

1423
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 4: Exactly because one would think, all right, on the surface,

1424
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 4: you're gonna go wide receiver, you don't have any Maybe

1425
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 4: go ah Molik neighbors just like Odell. You get a

1426
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 4: wide receiver one from LSU. Repeat history a little bit.

1427
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 4: They haven't had a one thousand yard receiver since they

1428
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 4: traded away Odell. But I just don't I don't know

1429
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 4: if that. I don't feel that is the correct way

1430
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: that they're gonna go. They could go Joe Walt again

1431
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 4: there if he's still on the board and fix that

1432
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 4: offensive line, but that doesn't feel right either. I think

1433
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 4: what ends up happening. I think the Giants they don't

1434
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: they don't draft a quarterback at where they are.

1435
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: They move up their move another trade.

1436
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 12: We've got I think six teams, but I think they

1437
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 12: move up with the Patriots, and I think that they

1438
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 12: take Drake May at three, and that's what ends up happening, and.

1439
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: That could dig it.

1440
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 3: That lines up with what I've been feeling and hearing

1441
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,919
Speaker 3: about the Patriots based on the whispers.

1442
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: Really well, that's what I tell me more two Francs.

1443
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: The Patriots were candidates to trade down and you got

1444
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 3: the Giants, These two Patriots, these two teams feel kind

1445
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 3: of linked to And I think maraa Maa is basically

1446
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 3: saying I'd be.

1447
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: Open to it.

1448
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 3: But anyone wise enough knows that you're not getting that

1449
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: guy at number six, So you've got to do something different.

1450
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 3: And I think Daniel Jones, no matter what they say

1451
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 3: with their pretty little words, is yesterday's news in the Meadowlands.

1452
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans at number seven.

1453
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 3: I was told by our friend Chris Westling that the

1454
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans were in the Midwest. As I steered my

1455
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 3: vehicle down through the country. I don't fly, I just

1456
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 3: like to I just kind of whind the car down

1457
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:03,879
Speaker 3: to think to process.

1458
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 4: Do you have like a Maddenmobile?

1459
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 3: It's an old beat up JEALOPPI and I switch cars

1460
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 3: every three months. Smart and I they come from parts

1461
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 3: on now.

1462
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: And he got a whole trunk full of license plate.

1463
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: Cell phone, Yes, what's what's the cell phone?

1464
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 4: Don't have one.

1465
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 3: Tennessee in my in my world is in the South.

1466
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 3: So I saw that investigation for myself. You know, Signetti

1467
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 3: is fifty eight years old. When we used to talk

1468
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 3: about him, he was in his late forties. But he's

1469
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 3: got a lot on his plate and he's humble enough

1470
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 3: to get help sometimes. Because my investigation of the Titans,

1471
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 3: here's a team that new coaching staff hired a bunch

1472
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: of parts off the free agency list. Calvin Ridley, Tony Pollard.

1473
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 3: These aren't they don't blow me away, but they still

1474
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 3: have one burning knee. They were the worst offensive line

1475
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 3: arguably in football over the last two seasons. And this

1476
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 3: is where I believe because the Giants are going to

1477
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 3: do what we think before. Here sits your left tackle, Joealt.

1478
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: But I like to lean on some of my best sources,

1479
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 3: and I had someone who was willing to go on

1480
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 3: the record.

1481
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: Directly, and here it is. What's up, Fellas Grave Digger.

1482
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 13: Here I want to give my take on what the

1483
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 13: Titans will do in the top ten of the draft

1484
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 13: this year. Look, there is no secret they need a

1485
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 13: left tackle. They've addressed many of their needs in free agency.

1486
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 13: Still have a big hole it inside linebacker. Probably need

1487
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 13: a safety, probably need someone else on the d line.

1488
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 13: You're not taking that in the first round. I don't

1489
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 13: think if Joe Alt the tackle out of Notre Dame

1490
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 13: is on the board, I think you write it an ink,

1491
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 13: he is the Titans pick. If he's not there, maybe

1492
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 13: they look to go Dallas Turner on the edge. Maybe

1493
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,440
Speaker 13: they look at the second best tackle, someone like Olufashanu.

1494
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 13: There's reports that they love JC Latham. I think the

1495
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 13: Titans have to get a tackle here. Ran Karthun recently

1496
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 13: said it's a deep tackle class. There will be guys

1497
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 13: available throughout the draft, but I don't know if you

1498
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 13: can risk it. You gotta find out. If will Lovis

1499
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 13: is the guy. They've done a great job surrounding him

1500
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 13: with pieces and weapons, building up that defense, trading for

1501
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 13: Lagarious Need. The last missing piece here is a stalwart

1502
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 13: left tackle. If Joe alt is on the board at seven,

1503
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 13: I think he is the Titans pick.

1504
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm hip to that cat.

1505
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you one more thing about the grave digger.

1506
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: That Titans helmet moves real quick and circles behind.

1507
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 4: Him, just spinning around, spinning.

1508
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's on that beat, and he's been on

1509
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: it for a long time. As the wrong side of

1510
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: the tracks.

1511
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 4: That was a thorough autopsy that he did on the

1512
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 4: on the Titans.

1513
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: He is the grave. He's got he's doing a lot

1514
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: of different jobs.

1515
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 4: He has his fingerprints on everything.

1516
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: The post mortem side of things makes a lot of sense.

1517
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: You know what else makes sense?

1518
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: At number eight? What the Falcons?

1519
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 4: What they have going on?

1520
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 2: One of one of our favorite draft tropes, teams who

1521
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: draft all on one side of the ba all to

1522
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: make a point, the Falcons could be one of those

1523
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: teams this year on the defensive side. The quandary they

1524
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 2: face and in my h.

1525
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: My conversations and my research, in my.

1526
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 2: Fearless ability to just go to places other people fear.

1527
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 4: To tread train tracks, you're going across them.

1528
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: Right across those tracks.

1529
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: They're a trained common not even checking, doesn't matter, doesn't matter,

1530
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: you're concerned.

1531
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: Kind of would be my concervative. Went at the wrong moment,

1532
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: you'd find out a second too late.

1533
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 4: The train stops for signetti. Signetti doesn't stop for the train.

1534
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it stops. I hope Frank makes anyway.

1535
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: The quandary they face is whether to take the sure

1536
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: thing quote unquote. At number eight, and and let's let's

1537
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: be serious about this. The draft board is set up

1538
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: beautifully for this team because because of their needs, which

1539
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: on the other side of the football where at the

1540
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: top of this draft is living and they are set

1541
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: at quarterback, and they have the quarterback, they have the

1542
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver talent, So do they trade back?

1543
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense.

1544
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: Try to fill multiple holes. It's perhaps more sensible, but

1545
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: you really don't trust your football people. You're gonna move

1546
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: out of the top ten here. But in the end,

1547
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 2: and I'm reading just in the frustration around the organization

1548
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: that I imagine is also happening inside the walls at

1549
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 2: Flowery Branch, the curse of John Abraham is strong there.

1550
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: Oh on, what a curse it is. I think it's

1551
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: going to be too much to ignore for Terry Fono

1552
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: and Raheem Morris. I pulled up the John Abraham Pro

1553
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: Football Reference. Is something smelled rotten?

1554
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 4: What'd you find?

1555
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: Well?

1556
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: As we talked about on the show, Abraham started his

1557
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: career with the Jets. He left as a free agent

1558
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: after the two thousand and five season, and the Jets

1559
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 2: have been looking for an edge rusher really ever since.

1560
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: And now it's the Falcons who saw him leave in

1561
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: free agency after the twenty twelve season. They've been looking

1562
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: for an edge rusher, since it's Abraham that ties the

1563
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 2: whole conspiracy together. I think the Falcons, with a plethora

1564
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: of pass rushers at their disposal, will not move and

1565
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 2: they are going to say we've had enough of this

1566
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 2: waiting game for the next Abraham and will take the

1567
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: cat that we like most.

1568
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: So I'm not even going to tell you they're going

1569
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: to take. There are a lot of.

1570
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 2: Mock drafts out there that have big time edge rushers

1571
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: staring at them, so they're gonna have their pick of

1572
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 2: the litter most likely, and I think that's what they do.

1573
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: They take the best pass rusher could be the first

1574
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: defensive player off the board, and that's the move they make.

1575
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: And everything I'm reading tells me this team thinks that

1576
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 2: they could really contend in that conference if they hit

1577
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: on a big edge rusher, use the rest of that

1578
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: draft to continue to build out the defense, and then

1579
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: hope Raheem could build it up further once he has

1580
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 2: a roster.

1581
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 4: I think that's what I got a tipster telling me

1582
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 4: Dallas Turner might be their guy at Alabama.

1583
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 3: That would make that is the guy at edge and

1584
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: there aren't a lot of them, and that's that makes sense.

1585
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: And I think if you're Raheem Morris and you're working

1586
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 3: well with Terry Fanho, you've come in quickly. You've found

1587
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 3: the quarterback that they lacked in these frustrating last three years.

1588
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 3: You're now killing curses that have plagued the Falcons for

1589
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 3: a long time. And you give Raheem Morris his guy,

1590
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 3: which takes us to the ninth pick, and we're back

1591
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 3: with the Chicago Bears, the monsters of that meaning, these.

1592
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 2: Cats are feeling good about themselves because they took Caleb Williams.

1593
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: At number one.

1594
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: So now what Now we know they got Keenan Allen

1595
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay at receiver and talking to some people and reading

1596
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: some things. They weren't expecting that they said that they're

1597
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 2: on record. Ryan Pulls, the GM said Keenan Allen's he

1598
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: popped up. It wasn't something that they had been working

1599
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: on for weeks. It wasn't on the radar until the

1600
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 2: Chargers realized they had to move on. They called it

1601
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: a quote this part of the athletic, a really cool opportunity.

1602
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: That's a hard bullet quote from where we are headed,

1603
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: which is going to be hang on missed the quote,

1604
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: called it a really cool opportunity that popp up.

1605
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: They made the move.

1606
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen, I think wide receiver was an option at nine,

1607
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: and I think it's more likely they move away at

1608
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: this point from that group, even though there's going to

1609
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: potentially be some or there will be still big time

1610
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 2: names there. And then I think about the defense. They

1611
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: are trying to figure out what their defensive line.

1612
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: You have.

1613
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: Matty Eberflus was on the record saying that you need

1614
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: an interior interior defensive line and an interior defensive lineman

1615
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: that could be a major impact player. Irvin Dexter, second

1616
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,959
Speaker 2: year player, former second round pick. They liked his development,

1617
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: but would they look for a hog Molly at the

1618
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: top of this round.

1619
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: I think that could be it as well.

1620
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: So I think you look and looking on the defensive

1621
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: side of the ball with this team, and I think

1622
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 2: you're going to see that's.

1623
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: Where they end up going.

1624
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 4: I like it.

1625
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: I like it.

1626
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 4: A lot of eyewitness accounts have been also saying that

1627
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 4: they've seen some things that might lead you to believe

1628
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 4: that that's the direction they're going in, but only Signetti

1629
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 4: is really truly knowing.

1630
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 3: I think also Signetti, he's going to a great judge

1631
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: of character and how people transform and change. And I

1632
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 3: get the sense that Flus is going to get his

1633
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 3: way because this has been in the last couple of

1634
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 3: weeks and months. He's grown a beard and changed his

1635
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 3: hair a little bit. He just looks confident. He feels like,

1636
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 3: you know.

1637
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 4: He's just go on the run.

1638
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 3: Well there's that too, and he's changed. Oh yeah, it

1639
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 3: feels like an odd time to leave the Bears as

1640
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 3: head coach compared to other scenarios coaches have been in.

1641
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: But we'd be telling him we've got.

1642
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: Our eye on them, which takes us finally at a

1643
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: number ten, the New York Jets, And I think the

1644
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: entire football industry was locked in on this, these Cats

1645
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:12,839
Speaker 2: going for an offensive lineman after you know, the disaster

1646
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 2: that was their line last season, Aaron Rodgers' injury, which

1647
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 2: by the way, came not to pile on poor Dwayne Brown,

1648
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: but came on a miss block on the fourth play

1649
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 2: of the season that led to the achilles injury. But

1650
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 2: then they went out and they got Tyron Smith, and

1651
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 2: they added two other starters in addition to Smith and

1652
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 2: free agency in one week and now makes people think, oh,

1653
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: they're done at offensive line, and they could be. There's

1654
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people connecting to that Bowers kid the

1655
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: tight end. I know the Jets have a bit of

1656
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 2: a cursed history at tight end in the first round,

1657
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 2: so I'd be a little jumpy about that if I

1658
01:22:54,720 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 2: were them. If there's a big time wide receiver Mike Williams.

1659
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 2: I know they added Mike Williams, that's a one year deal. Potentially,

1660
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule out them going after a wide receiver here,

1661
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: but I do think they might surprise people and stay

1662
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 2: with the initial plan and take an offensive tackle the

1663
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: best guy on the board.

1664
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: They're not going to get Alt.

1665
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 2: If Alt was still there, they would run up to

1666
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: the podium, but he should be long gone by ten.

1667
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: I think they take the second best aligneman on the board,

1668
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: somebody that they like a lot, and it gives you

1669
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: that injury protection on the line and a successor to

1670
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,440
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith or whomever.

1671
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: They decide to kind of plug this guy in.

1672
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: He'll find a role quickly because guess what offensive lineman

1673
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: get injured. You know who else gets injured, older offensive lineman.

1674
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 2: I still think it's a major need for this team,

1675
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: and I think they still end up taking Hogmley offensive Lineman.

1676
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I really I like that.

1677
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 3: I think that Joe Douglas does not want to mess

1678
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 3: around with that entire position group. I do find it interesting,

1679
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 3: and I know you have a hot and cold relationship

1680
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 3: with this fellow draft investigator, and you'll Jeremiah.

1681
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's hearing things.

1682
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 3: And I can't think of someone that seems more closely

1683
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 3: kind of linked to Joe Douglass here and there. And

1684
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 3: this could just be him creating something that's gonna get clicks.

1685
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1686
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: But he has them trading up in his latest mock

1687
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 3: to number five with the Chargers to get Marvin Harrison Junior.

1688
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: I believe that that draft came out or the mock

1689
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: draft came out a day before the Mike Williams trade.

1690
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: I would I would say that, like, just because you

1691
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 3: have Mike Williams, you'l like Tyron Smith and Mike Williams

1692
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 3: are both players that you can count on for maybe

1693
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,440
Speaker 3: ten or eleven games a season, and you're gonna lose them,

1694
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: Like if you can do this, or even if it's

1695
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 3: Roma Dounzay, I just say, if it's Mark, if you

1696
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 3: had it, if they if they had it in their

1697
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 3: head that there's some whisper that we're gonna try this,

1698
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 3: then you have Marvin Harrison Junior as a Hall of

1699
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 3: Fame potential talent for the next half decade. It's not

1700
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 3: even about Aaron Rodgers. You just have someone to pair with.

1701
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 3: You'd have the best wide receiver tandem in the AFC.

1702
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 4: Well, I have. I have a little bit of a

1703
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 4: situation that I'm working on right now that a little

1704
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 4: bit of a lead. Usually my sparrows will sing like

1705
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 4: canaries when I asked them about what's going on specifically.

1706
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: In classes are really paying off?

1707
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 4: Oh god, I have a dozen ten years? Get off

1708
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 4: my back. However, I will say that from a very

1709
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 4: reliable source, at the owner's meetings, there was a very

1710
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 4: heated conversation between Woody and Robert Sala to the point

1711
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 4: where it was a little awkward. What were they arguing about?

1712
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: Where was this?

1713
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 4: Tell us more at the owner's meetings, at the the party,

1714
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 4: at the party last night, I'm surprised.

1715
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that has happened.

1716
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 2: In developing news here.

1717
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Can we just make news.

1718
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that who and hey, who knows could

1719
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 4: have been about anything. Maybe they were disagreeing on how

1720
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 4: they liked their steak cooked.

1721
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 3: Doubt that, though probably not anything very interesting.

1722
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: So so an argument between the head coach and.

1723
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 4: The owner, wouldn't say argument of just a passionate exchange.

1724
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 4: What were they discussing? That is the lightest lead you did.

1725
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: Your source said it to the to it reached the

1726
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 2: point where it was almost.

1727
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: Awkward stle awkward. The awkward So was.

1728
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: It was it around in the midst of a larger

1729
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: group or was it off to the side, Like what

1730
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: made it awkward?

1731
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 4: I think just the body language potentially, but.

1732
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 3: The fact that a coach is arguing with an owner,

1733
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 3: which I don't think I've ever seen at a bar.

1734
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: Were they alone having the argument or were they part.

1735
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 4: Of a I'm not saying it's an argument, saying.

1736
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: The heated exchange passionate exchange.

1737
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 4: Yes, a lively conversation.

1738
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: Where they have kind of on their own having this conversation.

1739
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Or was it part of a large group.

1740
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 4: It's two of them, so what was that about?

1741
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: That's or de coonzic that he does.

1742
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: My guess it might have been potentially about this very

1743
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 2: conversation we're having right now.

1744
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: The number ten.

1745
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 9: Overall, Well, the love that it's been unearthed, gonna hop

1746
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 9: in the Lincoln Continental with the moon roof, drive on

1747
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 9: down to wherever they are, the Lincoln Continent.

1748
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, it will wrap up. All right,

1749
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: we're back. The show is continuing, for God's sakes. Thank you, Mark.

1750
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: All Right, there we go.

1751
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 2: That was the signette breakdown of the that the sir

1752
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 2: the top ten and uh, but I I'm still that

1753
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a bout those developing news.

1754
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: I thought. Uh. And again it wasn't.

1755
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 4: An argument and and and let me just speak clear,

1756
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 4: just heated conversation and was not last night was Sunday night,

1757
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 4: So Monday nights ago Sunday night.

1758
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 2: But just so we have the setting correct, they have

1759
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: the owner's meetings. And then there's and we've been a

1760
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: part of this party in the past, right, there's a

1761
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: large party on an open lawn type setup.

1762
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: It was that party, not like a separate bar type

1763
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 3: late night out.

1764
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: It was that.

1765
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 4: It was It was not the big party that was

1766
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 4: last night. That's like the oh so it wasn't that party. No, okay,

1767
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 4: it was Sunday night and it was according to my source,

1768
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:44,839
Speaker 4: super awkward.

1769
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 3: So it's observed by many people that I would assume

1770
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 3: or multiple multiple take.

1771
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,799
Speaker 1: Well that is, I mean that could be anything.

1772
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 4: Obviously, well there's smoke, there's fire.

1773
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean they could have been They could have been

1774
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: arguing over I don't know, like the who versus led Zeppel.

1775
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I would.

1776
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 4: Desmited, Like the year contest that Dave Damishek used to run.

1777
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Would have been the fruit of the year. Yeah, I mean,

1778
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: we don't know.

1779
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 3: It's the last time Woody Johnson like went into a

1780
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: grocery store and felt fruit and find out that really

1781
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 3: come up.

1782
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 1: He's definitely hit the way Room looks beefy.

1783
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: It could have been about that, you know, could have

1784
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 2: been about Zach Wilson, because by the way.

1785
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 3: And the comments that with Johnson made that make no

1786
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 3: sense for the way that team needs to proceed.

1787
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 2: Woody had to Woody, as we quickly addressed in the

1788
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: eight o'clock Delight came out and said a few weeks

1789
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 2: back that you know, our season was room because we

1790
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 2: didn't have a quarterback, making it very clear that they

1791
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: didn't think highly of Zach Wilson and they were moving

1792
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: on and then walked back at the owner's meetings in

1793
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 2: a way that was like very obviously transparent saying, oh,

1794
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: we we'd have him back.

1795
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Sure, It's like, no, could it be about that? We

1796
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: don't know.

1797
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 3: That would make some sense though, because I think that

1798
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 3: that whole thing burned down everyone quarterback coached GM.

1799
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,560
Speaker 1: It's like you're doing that again.

1800
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Also owners and head coaches, I'm sure in every building,

1801
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: but had some time to time. But in a public

1802
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 2: setting that's signetti at.

1803
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 4: Now how public this was, I don't know, but it

1804
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 4: was seen.

1805
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: Keep sleuthing, Colleen, What a what a morning into afternoon

1806
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: for you.

1807
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: I know you've done it again. You've said it all.

1808
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's great to be back with you guys.

1809
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: And yes we'll be there.

1810
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 2: She is the call and we'll be back on Thursday

1811
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 2: with the great But oh oh.

1812
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 4: Man, I always get so excited to see you here.

1813
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: He lost he lost part of the it's the one

1814
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: that hits the boot.

1815
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 11: You know.

1816
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: We're not hard on him about it. We're just we

1817
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: just understand it's a thing that we work with it up.

1818
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 7: It was the slow jazz of the whole entire show

1819
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 7: just kind of loaded me to sleep back here. Look

1820
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 7: on the trigger. I'm looking for the clothes button. It's

1821
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 7: just kind of.

1822
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, we're boring you.

1823
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 7: I'm just saying it was I was really relaxed. I

1824
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 7: was wasn't on my toes like I usually am. So

1825
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 7: I jumped to another folder and.

1826
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 2: So it had nothing to do with the missing portion

1827
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 2: of the thumb. No good, How was that going on?

1828
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Like nine?

1829
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 4: No way, that's great.

1830
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: Body's crazy human body, ladies and gentlemen, a miracle.

1831
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: Let's go. Uh yeah, so we'll be back.

1832
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 2: We have a special guest uh joining us on Thursday show,

1833
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,759
Speaker 2: Connor or We're gonna have some fun with Connor.

1834
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1835
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 2: But until then, thank you, Connie, thank you for listening.

1836
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: Thank you Frank Signetti wherever you are and heed the call.