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Speaker 2: Look at us now, timptop.

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Speaker 2: Oh do you want about.

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Speaker 1: Using will be luck?

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Speaker 2: It's time to back? Oh yeah, can you feel it?

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Speaker 2: It's Monday morning. Put a smile on your face. It's morning.

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Speaker 2: Combat back in your facehole here. April seventh, twenty and

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Shout out to all our waken bakers, pregnancy fakers,

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Speaker 2: and anyone else in between. Hey, it's Brian Campbell at

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Speaker 2: BBC with that BDE alpha style coming at you right now.

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Speaker 2: My co host though from Washington, d C, home of

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Speaker 2: the Great Eight himself. The all time leading goal scorer

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Speaker 2: from the Washington Capital is Alexander Ovich. Keen, It's Luke Thomas. Luke.

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Speaker 2: Are you fired up about life or what super fired up?

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Speaker 1: Yesterday was a great day. Ovechkin broke the record, which

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Speaker 1: was amazing. He did it in Long Island, which you know, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Long Island, Luca is a fucking dump. But aside from that,

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Speaker 1: if I may, he who got the win yesterday? Just

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Speaker 1: saying Islanders, who cares? Who's in first place? At Eastern Conference?

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Speaker 1: We're fighting for a playoff spot.

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Speaker 2: A lot of we in there.

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Speaker 1: What's going on in the first place? Who's in first place?

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Speaker 1: But all right, but that aside, And then I took

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Speaker 1: the tuchster to it's like a comic con, like not

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Speaker 1: rip off. But you know, they can't call it comic

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Speaker 1: comt it's like a it's called awesome con. And saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of nerds in their costumes yesterday. But b see,

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Speaker 1: if I may say something, these were amazing costumes. Also,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I guess I'm ignorant about this.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how vast expensive the lightsaber market is.

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Speaker 1: Did you know this?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm forty six years old.

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Speaker 1: Tho, Okay, there were lightsabers on sale yesterday, I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: Well in excess of one thousand dollars. Well in excess anyway.

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Speaker 2: It was selling fingers at all. Look anyone shooting things

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Speaker 1: So they did. There was there were people doing they

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Speaker 1: had iron man masks. They were people selling web shooters.

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Speaker 1: And also BC last thing, if I may last thing

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Speaker 1: I get asked all the time, Hey, luke, I'm visiting

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Speaker 1: the nation's capital. What's a good place to eat? Brother?

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Speaker 1: I've said this before, I will say it again because

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Speaker 1: I went back yesterday. Because it's actually right close to

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Speaker 1: the convention Center where the We're Awesome con was.

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Speaker 2: We guess pedo pizza.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, what you mean like pink

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Speaker 1: you're doing like a pet oak joke. But it's not

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Speaker 1: even a real thing that they're.

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Speaker 2: Talking about so much material.

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Speaker 1: It's actually right by the convention Center. It's called Unconventional Diner.

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Speaker 1: And I brought it up before because they've got an

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Speaker 1: amazing burger. I went back yesterday BC. They had a

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Speaker 1: Today's letyas strawberry shortcake might have been the best piece

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Speaker 1: of cake I've ever had in my entire fucking life.

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Speaker 1: Unconventional Diner there you go.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, we raise a glass to everybody who lost

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Speaker 2: all their stocks.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, don't check your four O one k cuz

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Speaker 2: Welcome on in though as well. We got a great

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Speaker 2: show for you today. Look at I mean, we might

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Speaker 2: fill in the blanks, don't you worry. UFCAPEX recap from

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. Tim zusback with a TKO on the

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Speaker 2: three fourteen Loaded card with a little taste of early storylines.

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Speaker 2: But do I need to remind you of what's going

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Speaker 2: on guys two days from now this Wednesday, April ninth,

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Speaker 2: eleven am in the East on the YouTube's in lieu

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Speaker 2: of Friday's episode, we're gonna move it up two days

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Speaker 2: earlier for my vacation. Thank you very much, And it's

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Speaker 2: Mesh you Deuce, It's gonna be a great time. Do

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Speaker 2: not miss that. Also, we'll take your questions today from

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Speaker 2: the DMS. We'll look at my shit. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: if you didn't already know, today's episode of Morning Combat

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Speaker 2: So shout out to everybody listening on the youtubes, on

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Speaker 2: bring it today. Okay, you want to dedicate today's show

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Speaker 1: To our viewers who are watching us recap UFC Fight Night,

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Speaker 1: Emmett versus Murphy, how about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Wow, Well, in lieu of that, in honor of that

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Speaker 2: It's the main card minutes, Luke Nocita, Hey, Hey.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? UFC Vegas one oh five?

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Speaker 3: Not my favorite card?

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Speaker 1: Did you? Did you do the whole card again? Now?

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Speaker 3: I just did the main card, but did even the

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Speaker 3: the Terrez Finny fight. It only went you know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we'll talk about it. That Terrez Finny fight is

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how long I agree it was bad.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get a lot of great analysis from these

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Speaker 2: about now. Let's go. Topic number one. UFC Apex was back.

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Speaker 2: Laron Murphy played it safe in the main event, improving

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Speaker 2: So Luke, let's put it out there. Considering Murphy was

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Speaker 2: In your opinion, there'd be more room and elite mixed

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is a tough one. Let me.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get up here and I'm not

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Speaker 1: and be like, oh, if you didn't like that fight,

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Speaker 1: The Torres Finny fight on this card was an absolute

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Speaker 2: away from the performance, I'm really impressed. Murphy has elite skills,

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Speaker 2: But it's sports and entertainment at the same time. So

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a deep card. Not only are we complaining

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Speaker 4: Yes, people feeling gray after the fight, no damage, masterclass

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Speaker 1: like rocket charging him up the rankings, or to the

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Speaker 1: rocket charging him into some kind of future big fight.

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Speaker 1: It could, but I wouldn't bet on it right away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't hate if he fought Arnold Allen in

431
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Speaker 2: the UK to actually give the fans what they want. Cool,

432
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Speaker 2: But Luke, did you want to address There's heavy rumors

433
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: overnight on Twitter, not not necessarily from a huge recutable account,

434
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Speaker 2: but that Aaron Pico could be entering this Fatherway division,

435
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: the former Belator, huge prospect and then you know, after

436
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 2: a couple collapses did bring it back around, and there's

437
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Speaker 2: rumors he could be in a Fight Night main event

438
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Speaker 2: against Mossarvlov, which is interesting politics onto itself. But Laura

439
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Speaker 2: Murphy Pico or is that promotional malpractice?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Pico is fighting another guy, one of these

441
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Speaker 1: guys we just talked about, very good, highly Okay, So

442
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: the rumor is that he's fighting Mosar, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see bigger reputable accounts back up yet, which

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00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's not true, but we kind of have

445
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Speaker 1: a wait and see approach with it. But here he is,

446
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: they've got to match it up against Mosar, who is,

447
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, another one of these John Fitch types that

448
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: they don't have great finishing instincts of more ability, but

449
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Speaker 1: they're very, very tough and there are heart outs for everyone,

450
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Speaker 1: and they're very very skilled. I think l I think Lron,

451
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the right answer is, to be

452
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Speaker 1: honest with you, because his whole game is predicated on neutralizing, right.

453
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Speaker 1: You asked me on Friday, like what stands out about

454
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Speaker 1: his game? And I think you saw a lot of

455
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Speaker 1: it there. It's it's just a lot of blendedness where

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00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't go for takedown a whole lot

457
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Speaker 1: or I don't think hardly at all. In this fight.

458
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Speaker 1: It was more about sticking and moving, working behind the

459
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Speaker 1: jab and footwork. But you know, when he needs to

460
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: everything kind of gets mixed in together. But the real

461
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Speaker 1: common denominator is the sort of neutralization. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know who the right matchup is to get him out

463
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Speaker 1: of that instinct. I don't know exactly what that would be.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think an incremental improvement or an

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Speaker 1: incremental adjustment to his next dance partner is probably the

466
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Speaker 1: right idea. But PC this is the problem. Like you know,

467
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Speaker 1: you bring in Pitbull and you can start thinking of like, oh,

468
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Speaker 1: I got all these matchups in my head that'd be great,

469
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Speaker 1: or conversely, you just mentioned they might bring in Pico, right,

470
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Speaker 1: all all these matchups in my head, I mean I

471
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Speaker 1: could think of a thousand matchups that'd be like that

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Speaker 1: one's good, that one's good, and not just a forty

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Speaker 1: five fifty five potentially as well. Sure, But with Murphy

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Speaker 1: it's like does he deserve a quality guy? Yeah? He

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Speaker 1: deserves a quality opponent. He's a quality opponent who just

476
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Speaker 1: scored a very quality win. But can I think of

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Speaker 1: a thousand different matchups that I would want to see

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Speaker 1: him in. No, I think I'd be I think I'd

479
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Speaker 1: be lying if I said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't deserve another main event. I mean, that's

481
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: a big part of this. He got his close up opportunity,

482
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Speaker 2: he survived in Evans, but that will cost him in

483
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Speaker 2: the end. I just wonder, you know, you made a

484
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Speaker 2: broader statement off the top of this segment that there

485
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Speaker 2: are a lot of fighters these days who are fighting

486
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Speaker 2: a quote unquote boring style to the fans who are

487
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Speaker 2: tuning in, putting their bets down, and they just just bleed, baby, right,

488
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: just bleed, Haney. Do you think there will ever be

489
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Speaker 2: a correction or adjustment to the rules. I guess I

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Speaker 2: want to say, similar to the NBA, where in the

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Speaker 2: early two thousands, the lockdown of defense was bringing scoring

492
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Speaker 2: down so much that the NBA responded by opening up

493
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Speaker 2: the lane for the removing the handcheck, putting you know,

494
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Speaker 2: defensive three seconds into it and look at the wide

495
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Speaker 2: open offensive game we have now. Do you ever see

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Speaker 2: any type of correction attempt by the UFC to counteract this,

497
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Speaker 2: or is it cyclical in terms of who's on top

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Speaker 2: and what styles of fighting are most preferred.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I I am a little bit more pessimistic

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Speaker 1: about this now When I say that BC, what I

501
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Speaker 1: mean is I agree with the broader way which you

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Speaker 1: framed it, which is some of this just will be cyclical.

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Speaker 1: I think that is true. At the same time, I

504
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: don't think it's like the NBA, dude. I mean, you know,

505
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Speaker 1: basketball to a degree, to a degree BC has been

506
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Speaker 1: solved right where you know, the teams just kind of

507
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: know that, you know, shooting as many threes as possible

508
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: is kind of the idea, and there's various ways to

509
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: set that up. And if you have to go to

510
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Speaker 1: the post, there's various ways to set that up. But

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Speaker 1: you know, they kind of all play a similar way

512
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Speaker 1: of basketball. Like there's not a lot of team identity

513
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Speaker 1: a whole lot anymore. There's some of that, but you know,

514
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: you get the idea relative to you know, the triangle

515
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: offense and how like unique that was to the players

516
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Speaker 1: who implemented that under Phil Jackson. So that's kind of

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're there, but I guess the point

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is you you're getting just a

519
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: lot of these athletes who are very good at extending

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Speaker 1: the life of a fight and not getting close to

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Speaker 1: the finish, but never letting their opponent really get all

522
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: that close to them in terms of their chances of victory.

523
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: But the bigger issue is not that BC. The bigger

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Speaker 1: issue to me is, I mean, consider right, I might

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Speaker 1: I might have this wrong Long Island. Look, are you

526
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: an American football fan? Are you a Jets or a

527
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Speaker 1: Giants guy?

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00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: I side with the Jets, But I truly don't really

529
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Speaker 3: care about I'm just gonna be honest.

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Speaker 2: He's cockey, gambling and bongs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's an MMA fans, like do you

532
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: like other sports? Like?

533
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Speaker 5: Not really?

534
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: You know that's an MMA fans answer. But my understanding

535
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: is they moved the kickoff to the thirty five yard

536
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Speaker 1: line for next season. BC. They've been playing with that

537
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: for years. They moved it, I think twenty five to

538
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: thirty now thirty to thirty five, and you know, they've

539
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: changed how you where you could start and everything. But

540
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is the NFL the way

541
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Speaker 1: in which it is organized allows them to more nimbly

542
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: make adjustments to rules or tweaks that they feel like

543
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: are important to preserve the integrity of the product, particularly

544
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: as they get new information about player safety, uh, team tactics,

545
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, will there be a tush push going forward

546
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. But they have the ability to

547
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Speaker 1: kind of address this well do You're talking fifty different

548
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: state athletic commissions, and yeah, you could fix New Jersey, California, Nevada, Texas,

549
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: and Florida, and that would be a lot of it,

550
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: but that still would take you when you go back

551
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: to Arizona. You're fucked. You know, international organization or territories,

552
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: you're messed up. This this this ability to define what

553
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: the rules are. They've vested that power into these vast

554
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: bulkanized world of government agencies. That's a lot of work

555
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: to get that fixed, even if you can do it

556
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Speaker 1: at all, No, I guess I don't have a lot

557
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: of faith in that.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I think it also could

559
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: really if you go too far and trying to do that.

560
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: I mean you could you could do soft changes of

561
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: having referees stand them up even faster than before. But

562
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Speaker 2: I think you're you're gonna mess with it in a

563
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: lot of ways. And I didn't know if you said

564
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Speaker 2: tush push in light of that viral Terrence Howard clip going.

565
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Speaker 1: Around Luke, No, are you not what the toush pushes?

566
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Speaker 2: I am, I'm just also aware of comedy. Sorry, sir,

567
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Speaker 2: I'll continue, Hey look to close on this topic. What

568
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: did this performance say about forty year old Josh Emmett.

569
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: He had the five round stamina. He tried hard, he

570
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: got dropped to a knee and round five when he

571
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: was doing the point down. He seemed frustrated at Murphy's elusiveness.

572
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Is he could he have one more run? Like there

573
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Speaker 2: is this sort of gatekeeper role moving forward.

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Speaker 1: He didn't look physically shocked. To me, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you felt about it. He looked like physically fine.

576
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: But it's like, BC, you brought it up on Friday.

577
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: He doesn't game plan. That was one problem that looks like,

578
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: are just you know? I mean, how are you gonna

579
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: beat the best guys in the world without a game plan?

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00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. I really don't know the answer

581
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: to that. And the second part is BC, he doesn't faint.

582
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't faint hardly at all. He was just trying

583
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: to like intercept Murphy or catch him with like timing

584
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Speaker 1: or something, which you know, fine, some of that is okay,

585
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: you know you can, you can get away with it,

586
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: but like, look at the results. Look at the result.

587
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, like, I don't know how many times

588
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 1: you know, what makes the best fighter?

589
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: What?

590
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a big question. But look steroids, steroids.

591
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: You know, if you ask Craig Jones, autism would probably

592
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Speaker 1: play a role as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, oh.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just doing a Craig Jones a bit. But

595
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Speaker 1: I'm just someone just like lost side of comedy there,

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00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: all right.

597
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Well you led me there with your with your Noddy block.

598
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of the thing you're mentioning, so

599
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

601
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Speaker 1: But but in all seriousness, it can be a combination

602
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: of athleticism, the right mindset, a certain degree of hunger

603
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: and tolerance and chin and like all these factors that

604
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: that that that go into it. And I don't know.

605
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: I think in the case of Josh Emmett, he's still

606
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Speaker 1: got a lot of the physical tools and I don't

607
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Speaker 1: think he's a dumb guy by any stretch of the imagination,

608
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Speaker 1: and we know if I'm talking to him, he's certainly

609
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: quite driven. But if you're not accepting of the reality

610
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: that that pre fight planning, strategy and best practices around

611
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: striking implementation all show you, you're just handicapping yourself. You're handicapped.

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00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna play I'm gonna play baseball with

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00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: one hand behind my back. All right, Well might you

614
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: might still be a good player, but you're not probably

615
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna be winning the home run derby doing that, you

616
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So this is just where we are.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but credit to Murphy for the takedown defense,

618
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Speaker 2: the well timed kicks that constantly caught Emmett when he

619
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Speaker 2: was stepping forward.

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Speaker 1: It was a work is good too, some of those.

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Speaker 2: Outward and tangibles. Murphy's brilliant at It's just not overly

622
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Speaker 2: exciting to everybody. But speaking of not overly exciting, luke

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Speaker 2: let's transition into topic number two, and this was your

624
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: ufc Apex undercard, where yes, there were for a few

625
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: bright spots that I do hope we mentioned, but it's

626
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: hard to avoid this one thing. Did you guys smell

627
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: what Torres Finny was cooking? Look After being forced to

628
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: earn a spot on the UFC roster with an unprecedented

629
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Speaker 2: three appearances on the Dana White Contender Series, Torres Finnis

630
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: decision win over Robert Valentin was incessantly booed and mocked

631
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Speaker 2: as Finny would go on to land just four significant

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Speaker 2: strikes over fifteen minutes of largely dominant grappling control. Was

633
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: world famous boxing referee Tony Weeks, who was a judge

634
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 2: and scored it. An outlier card of thirty to twenty

635
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: seven for Valentine justified, in your eyes, a massive troll job.

636
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: What do you stand on that? After Finny produced, let's

637
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: say it, one of the worst UFC debuts in modern history.

638
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: Dude, that scorecard from Tony Weeks is the greatest. It's

639
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: the greatest thing that's happened at the Apex maybe ever,

640
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: maybe ever. Look at that car Tony Weeks showed up

641
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: and was like, I'm not playing ball with this bullshit

642
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: even a little bit. Go fuck yourself. That was a

643
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: waste of everybody's time. You don't belong here. I didn't

644
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: need to be here. Eat shit. To the world is

645
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: what he basically said. I fucking love this from Tony Weeks.

646
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: By the way, they called him a boxing judge. He's

647
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: been well, I don't know if he's reffed in the MMA.

648
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: He certainly reffed a lot of boxing two, but he's

649
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: done a lot of judging in MMA for years.

650
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: Like this is not multiple decades. They tried to act

651
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: on the broadcast like they even ripped him. They were like, well,

652
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: that's what you get when a boxing guy judges a

653
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: wrestling match. It's like, dude, that guy's been there forever.

654
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Also, if we're just having wrestling matches, to stop calling

655
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: it MMA. I mean, what the way you know I

656
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: don't need a boxing judge at a wrestling match. You're right,

657
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: but I didn't sign up to watch a wrestling match.

658
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: I signed up to watch an MMA fight. Tony Weeks

659
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: had the right idea. One more time about these stats.

660
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Torres Finney landed zero of one attempted significant strike in

661
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: round one and landed zero of one attempted significant strike

662
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: in round three. You could argue there were seven strikes

663
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: total that he landed not none of them is significant.

664
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: He did get five takedowns in the first we see.

665
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: You could argue that some of the takedowns were slams

666
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: and that that counts because they do count the takedown

667
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: itself is like a hard takedown. They'll count that as

668
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: like not not exactly a strike, but that you know,

669
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: it contributes to the damage quotient that they're trying to evaluate.

670
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: You know. But I just want to say, first, Tony

671
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: Weeks giving this a thirty twenty seven, whether he scored

672
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: it that way or whether it was a protest vote,

673
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: to me is absolutely immaterial. It's the most brilliant response

674
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: possible to the way in which that fight went. Number one,

675
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: number two. Look, Torres Finny seems to be a nice guy,

676
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: but I don't understand what the case is for signing him.

677
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: And you're not signing guys like Saladin Parnass or r

678
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: Tim Bakitov, especially if you know, we know that those

679
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: guys weren't asking necessarily for like the world in terms

680
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: of money, but something you know, a little bit greater

681
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: than what they could offer at the Contender series. And listen,

682
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: my understanding is sometimes the matchmakers do want to sign

683
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: a guy and you know management doesn't want or you know,

684
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: the promotion that those guys come from play like fucking

685
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: games with their contracts, and UC just says that I

686
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: don't want to play with those. We're just gonna keep

687
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: what we get. So it's it can be a lot

688
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: of reasons why guys don't get signed beyond just hey,

689
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: we don't want to pay them, blah blah blah. So

690
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: I can understand it's a mixed it's a mixed situation,

691
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: but BC, you're getting what you pay for. If you're

692
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna pay top dollar for top guys,

693
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: then you're gonna get situations like this where guys who

694
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: are clearly not ready for this level and don't have

695
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: an even remotely approximating the kind of well rounded skill

696
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: set or even like a threatening skill set that they

697
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: need to have in order to compete. This is what

698
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. We talked about it on Friday. You know,

699
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: when you when you're landing ten takedowns per fifteen minutes,

700
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: it means you can't hold somebody down. Sure enough, five

701
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: of eight takedowns in round one, one of and three.

702
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: He was able to hold it down a little bit

703
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: in that one, but then two of six in in

704
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: uh in in around eight eight takedowns. Totally, He's only

705
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: eight takedowns in a fight in a fifteen minute fight. Dude,

706
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing here? That's nearly three

707
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: year round. There has to be development on wrapping the

708
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: legs and holding them their risk rides Nelson's turks. Dude,

709
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: look at Sean Brady. Sean Brady would get Leon down, bitch,

710
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: You're staying down for the rest of that round, if

711
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: you even survive the round. Look at the difference in ability,

712
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: Look at the difference and skill. One guy is elite

713
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: and one guy just got this opportunity because I don't know,

714
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: the Internet kind of wanted to boost him to this position.

715
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to say this again, Torris Finny seems

716
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: like a good guy and it seemed like afterwards he

717
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: understood this performance didn't exactly blow away the world. But

718
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: if we're just observing this from afar, what is the

719
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: fucking argument for signing a guy who's at this level

720
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: versus some of these international prospects that we've seen, except

721
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: that one comes at a much more discounted rate.

722
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you pay for, But I do believe that,

723
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: like they gave him three chances on the DWCS, and

724
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: he did get more exciting with each opportunity, for whatever

725
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: that means. I obviously would feel bad for someone like

726
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: Brendan Locknane watching this and going what the f right?

727
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: Or even Mohammed Makayev, although I know that there's other

728
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: factors that led to him being released. But luke back

729
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: to the scoring for a second. I did chuckle at

730
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: the Tony Weeks one. I liked the statement that it

731
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: potentially sent. I did see though, way more like really

732
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: angry mma fans that I thought, basically being like this

733
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: man should never judge again. Now, for the record, I

734
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: think you have to give Valentin round three because he

735
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: came out angry, talking trash, landing big strikes before he

736
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: ended up on his back like the rest of those rounds.

737
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: Is there an argument here for two to one Valentine

738
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: on the first two rounds in your eyes or no?

739
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: Because I did score it two to one for Finny

740
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: giving him rounds one and two, even though it was

741
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: a very frustrating lack of entertaining style. If there's no

742
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: striking on either side and he completely controls a guy

743
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: and frustrates him and put him on his back. Don't

744
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: you under the law have to give it to him?

745
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: No? Why do you have to give it to So

746
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: how did you score it? I don't know if either

747
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: guy belongs in UFC. That's how I scored it. That's

748
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: one of those fights where I looked at it and

749
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: I was like, you're getting fucked like weird ass situations

750
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: like this because you have two opponents who are probably

751
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: not good enough for this level now Valentine or Valentine's

752
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: argument a little stronger. Obviously, I don't know if it's

753
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: entirely fair to him, but certainly in the case of Finny,

754
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what are we doing here? I mean

755
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: I did go back and rewatch. It was hard to

756
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: stomach fifteen minutes of this, but we rewatched some of

757
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: the takedowns in all of the rounds to see exactly

758
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: how many of them were slams. Round two I think

759
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: is probably the strongest Finny round because of the ability

760
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: to keep him down off just the one takedown. He

761
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: did land some strikes in that one. Of note, there

762
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: were some slams in the first one, but they didn't

763
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: seem to have a very big material effect. The problem

764
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: that you have and I want to make sure I'm

765
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: saying this without yeah, the problem. You have one reversal

766
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: that they credited Valentine with in round two, which was nice.

767
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: He was able to do that. But you'll notice he

768
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: doesn't have any sub attempts, and I know he's landed

769
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: some strikes throughout six in round one. Valentine did three

770
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: in round two and then fourteen in round three. That

771
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: was obviously the clearest of them. But it wasn't like

772
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: he was scoring a ton of damage either, you know.

773
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: So this is one I mean, this is what I

774
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: mean about Tony Weeks's scorecard. It's like, to me, I

775
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: think thirty twenty seven Finny would have been like absolutely bizarre.

776
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't think you could have done that. But anything

777
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 1: from twenty nine to twenty eight Finny, all the way

778
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: over to thirty twenty seven Valentine would have been okay

779
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: by me, to be perfectly honest, because I can understand

780
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: how you could arrive at those positions. Also, I note

781
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: Ben Cardilicho, I sort of considered to be the gold

782
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: standard in judging. He had at twenty nine twenty eight

783
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: for Finny. You know, I don't know why he scored

784
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: it that way without a chance to speak to him.

785
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to know, but that is a very very

786
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: very good judge. But Tony Weeks to me looking at

787
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: this what it obviously is, which is a gigantic waste

788
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: of everyone's time and somebody who's got one one dimension

789
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: of a skill set just trying to ride that out

790
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes and then hoping he gets blessed with

791
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: the decision. This was a gigantic waste of everyone's time,

792
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: including Valentines.

793
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: Well, I get that. The story here is that Finny

794
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: was not entertaining and might not belong in the UFC,

795
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: but and not necessarily people caring about one round the

796
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: other way was it judged right or wrong? Outside of

797
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: the outrage of what Weeks did? But I do go

798
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: back to the ABC definition the Association of Boxing Commissions

799
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: and by Effect MMA. Here's the actual fine print. A

800
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: judge shall base of fighters impact their opponents significantly in

801
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: the round, even though they may not a dominantated the action.

802
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: Impact includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations, which

803
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: didn't happen here, but impact shall also be assessed when

804
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: a fighter's actions using striking or grappling lead to a

805
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: diminishing of their opponent's energy, confidence, abilities, and spirit.

806
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: So it didn't do it didn't do any of that.

807
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: It didn't do a single bit of that.

808
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: So long island, Luke, how did you score?

809
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 6: You?

810
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: You're into this on a betting side aggressively. So was

811
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: was two to one Finny, even if we hated it,

812
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: the right scorecard in your eyes? Or how do you

813
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: weigh in on that?

814
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

815
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: So I had terres Finny in a parlay, so I

816
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: was like rooting for him. I thought he clearly won

817
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 3: rounds one and two. Gaff was making me sweat because

818
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: Gaff's like Gaff was going the Tony Weeks route. He

819
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: was like, Dude, I don't know, man, I think there's

820
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: a world Valentine's winning these rounds. I think two one

821
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: is the right scorecard you give Valentine. Round three. You

822
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 3: gotta give Phinny rounds. He had what, Luke, five takedowns

823
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: in round one?

824
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, five and round one. That's got to

825
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: be enough to win the round in my book.

826
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's not getting lit up, Luke, it is

827
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: it really is? I do supprise.

828
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not going to go to the mat

829
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: over it again. I think I consider Tony Weeks's card

830
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: not to be like the most glorious card because it

831
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: had the best fealty to the rules, but just as

832
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: a kind of card that was like a you know,

833
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: like a fuck you to this whole thing, which is

834
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: really how everybody felt when it was over. That's why

835
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: I mostly admire it. There is an interesting debate over

836
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: the scoring to a degree, but it's more like the

837
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: protest of it. That's where I'm at.

838
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: No, and I like that it was out there so

839
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: it warns people that this will not be fully tolerated

840
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 2: and expect and accepted. It reminds me of the tail

841
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: end of Geirmo riggandau is the Great Cuban boxer's career Luke,

842
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 2: when he's dodging punches left and right but not making

843
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: you pay. There are a lot of judges that would

844
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: score fights against him in that case, even though it

845
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: kind of looked like he outclashed the guy. I get it.

846
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: You gotta have offense with that. Let's hear it from

847
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: Torres Finney, who definitely came out and agreed with everybody

848
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: that it was not his best performance and in his eyes,

849
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: here is the reason why The.

850
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 7: Biggest critique coming out of this fight is he did

851
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 7: not throw ground and pound.

852
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: Was there a reason for that?

853
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 6: Uh?

854
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: No, the plant was to throw ground and pound. Maybe

855
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: I was in this fight. I was too much positioned

856
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: over obviously spiking. You know, usually you hear the position

857
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: over some but I was too much position and not

858
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: looking for openings. And there was sometimes openings that I

859
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: had I didn't take advantage of. And I don't know

860
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: what it was that was holding me back at a

861
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: mental block confidence son, but man, that was so much

862
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: left to be desired and there for myself, I did

863
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: not like I would say, it's a weird performer. That

864
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: was a dud, you know, in my undist opinion. You know,

865
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 4: it happens. You know, I ain't gonna lie. I feel great.

866
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 4: What this is the best I felt going into a fight,

867
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: you know, like Jess was a dud, and heck, I

868
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: felt way worse than this going into a fight. And

869
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: I've had an incredible performance and so you know, it

870
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: just it just to night sometimes and uh, tonight was

871
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: that one of those type of nights. You know, like

872
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 4: I said, came out with the victory. Yeah, that's the

873
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 4: main thing, but just just gotta grow, you know, I've

874
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: only been look.

875
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: It would go on from there, but you get the

876
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: point of it. I like his reaction, but I gotta

877
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: ask you the hard question. If we all kind of

878
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: agree he's not fit for prime time, would it be

879
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: awful to a caught him or b set a precedent

880
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: that fighters that aren't ready but you don't necessarily want

881
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: them to go away? Could he go back down to

882
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: the data Could he get demoted to the data white

883
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: Contender series for a fourth time? Like, what do you

884
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: do right now? If you're the UFC where he became

885
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: a big headline out of this event.

886
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: I kind of just feel like if you have to

887
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: go to the Contender series three times, it kind of

888
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: tells you you're not ready. I mean, the economics of

889
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: the regional scene is a lot at what is at

890
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: play here where you know, whatever the complaints about UFC

891
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: fighter pay, it's obviously going to be significantly greater than

892
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: what your typical regional promotion can pay. I mean, obviously

893
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: there's some exceptions in places like continental Europe or whatever,

894
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: but you know, in general, especially in the American side,

895
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: you're just gonna make a lot more money in UFC.

896
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: So these guys have a strong incentive, they think, to

897
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: get up there and listen, it's I don't have the

898
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: answers for them, and I know it's not very fair,

899
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to say. But what I

900
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: do know, after watching this for you know, almost my

901
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: entire adult life and then some you have to have

902
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: requisite skills to win and do damage and make a

903
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: name for yourself. Otherwise all of this is going to backfire.

904
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: You're going to go there when you're not ready, you're

905
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna underperformed, and then you're gonna find yourself in exile

906
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: with not much of a path to return, and even

907
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: if you do, it could be a lot longer before

908
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: you ever find yourself back there. It doesn't make sense

909
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: to rush this. And it just feels to me like,

910
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know exactly his life circumstances or

911
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: exactly why he tried to push for a Contender series

912
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: when he did. You know, we know the story. These

913
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: guys get the call up and all of a sudden,

914
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: they just want to head. They want to they want

915
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: to dive right into it. And my response is this

916
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: is a mistake. This is absolutely a gigantic mistake that

917
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: can only backfire long term unless he's all of a

918
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: sudden able to make vast leaps in his technical ability.

919
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: Is you know, you're asking what the UFC should do.

920
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, I think you can give

921
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: him another fight, you know, put out on the prelimb somewhere,

922
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: and if that goes poorly, you know that. I think

923
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: they have a different conversation to make. I wouldn't cut

924
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: him off of this. I think that's a little punitive,

925
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: but you know, it's not about what you do about

926
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: this fight. It's what you do about a talent pipeline

927
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: where guys who are clearly green, clearly uncon incontestably green,

928
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: getting fast tracked to main cards. I know, on the APEX,

929
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: but UFC main cards when they simply don't have enough

930
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: ability to compete properly at this level. It's a waste

931
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: of their time, the opponent's time, and in the consumer's

932
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: time and frankly the UFC's time too. To me, it's

933
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: a bigger issue than just what do you do with

934
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: Torres Finny Torres Finny spotlights a broader issue, agreed.

935
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: Completely Like some Fight Night cards, you know, I thought

936
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: they suck some of the hardcore fans or the betters

937
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: like Long Island Lucer, are like, no, it's good. This

938
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: one felt like it wasn't good top to bottom. And

939
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: I think it might be a reflection of the Dana

940
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: White Contender series factory to what you're saying, where people

941
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: aren't ready, they're coming in on low salary. He purposely.

942
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know, I'm really one of the

943
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: reasons why I'm so excited about three fourteen on Saturday,

944
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: because there's twenty three fighters on the card and fifteen

945
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: of them have Wikipedia pages. I'm like, yes, this is

946
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: a win where this is a loaded card. This is

947
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: what it should be. But Luke to speak to this

948
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: card in totality, I do want to show you a

949
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: tweet that the great Kauposa Gribaca Hitman put out there.

950
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: According to his research, Saturday's card was the fourth consecutive

951
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 2: UFC event where no fight of the night was given,

952
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: and that's the first time it happened since twenty fifteen.

953
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: And by the way, twenty fifteen came during a great era,

954
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: so that was probably an anomalous, like stretch, is this

955
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: current stretch anomalist if that's even a word, or is

956
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: this also speaking to the larger issues right now?

957
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: Too small of a sample size to say it could

958
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: be what we're spotlighting is contributing. I don't know if

959
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: you feel differently. I'm a little bit. I'm always a

960
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: little bit like when I say broader trends, I mean

961
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: like things that are like somewhat years in the making.

962
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Four fights being like this is certainly catches your eye

963
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: and could be, could be, but I'm a little bit

964
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: hesitant to ascribe a significant amount of meaning to it

965
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: at the moment.

966
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: Well, look, if Dana White isn't showing up and caring

967
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: about these cards, should fight fans. Let's see where Dana

968
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: was over the weekend.

969
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.

970
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 8: So I played in the baccara tournament at the MGM Mansions.

971
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 8: I lost.

972
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm out.

973
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 8: I'm a loser, but you're not. So this is what

974
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 8: they gave us in the invitations. That's a thousand dollars

975
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 8: bill from like nineteen thirty four, and this is an.

976
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: Ounce and a half of gold.

977
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 8: So two of you will have the opportunity to win this.

978
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 8: I haven't figured out how I'm gonna do it yet,

979
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 8: but stay.

980
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: Tuned, so you know, the two of you he's talking

981
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: about are not the fighters. And look, I'm not saying

982
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm not sitting here saying Dana White can't have a

983
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: night off, but it is telling about a lot of things.

984
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: When Dana White entered a ten million dollar Baker attorney

985
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: on Saturday and we can't get Jones aspinall and we

986
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: got twelve and twelve guys stinking it out in the

987
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: in the cage. I don't know if that's related, but

988
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: it's it's part of the larger People.

989
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: Will always say, oh, I Dana White can spend his

990
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: own money, which of course is true. And also like,

991
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, if Dana White's gonna take a night off,

992
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: taking a night off on this kind of a card

993
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: is probably like, you know, you'd rather be off this

994
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: night than let's say, a UC three fourteen, Right. But

995
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like, well, where do you

996
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: think that money comes from? You know what I mean? Like, Oh,

997
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: he can spend his money how he wants, right, but

998
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: how did he generate that? You know what I mean?

999
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: Like it's because again I can't get I mean, I'm

1000
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: just not going to do it.

1001
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: I get into give me the good, give me something

1002
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: good from Saturday's undercard.

1003
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, well there was to be clear, there definitely

1004
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: was for me. First of all, Odie Osborne had a

1005
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: nice third round stoppage over Luis Gurule, which I thought

1006
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: he had fast hands, his hands will can sharp the

1007
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: whole fight and the way he kind of slowly found

1008
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: his opportunity there was I think it was what that

1009
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: upper the upper cut, No, was a left hook that

1010
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: he landed and then he polished him off. That was

1011
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: pretty sick. Reese McKee going in there and just absolutely

1012
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: giving Daniel Frunza the business beating his ass, had him

1013
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: basically stopped. I thought, to me, the guy that looked

1014
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: the most interesting, by the way, the short noticed opponent

1015
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: from Sadi Baldiev, you know, giving up an enormous amount

1016
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: of weight, I thought, still performed pretty ably, But that's

1017
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: not it. The guy who to me looked the most

1018
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: skillful on this card, skillful in the broadest way in

1019
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: which I can say it. And I don't know how

1020
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 1: you can even disagree with this, Victor Henry. Victor Henry

1021
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: is a Josh Barnett train fighter. Obviously that's gonna give

1022
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: him some pedigree right there. And he's had some tough

1023
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: breaks in the octagon, including with being the victim of

1024
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: fouls and a whole bunch of other stuff. But dude,

1025
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: he is a very skilled fighter. He is skilled on

1026
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: the ground in transition on the feet. I thought he

1027
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: looked awesome. He nearly put Pedro Falcau away a few times,

1028
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: came very close. His right hand could not miss in

1029
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: that fight. It was incredible. He to me, stood out

1030
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: far and away the best fighter on that car at

1031
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: least the best performance I think in addition amazing.

1032
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also, I mean, look, the stakes are lower

1033
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 2: on the first fight of the night, but Talita Allen

1034
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: Carr absolutely dominated Vanessa Demopolis over three rounds and really

1035
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: just put her on her back, which is, you know,

1036
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: a place where Demopolis normally shines with that counter grappling

1037
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: and those you know, she's rallied to a lot of

1038
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: submission wins in her career. She got absolutely suffocated in

1039
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 2: that fight by that grappling and there was heavy ground

1040
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: upound mixt and so shout out there, Long Island, Luke.

1041
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: Do you want to echo any of the matchups we

1042
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: talked about her, any big bets that you pulled off

1043
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: this weekend?

1044
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 3: I just want to bring up what I think should

1045
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 3: have been the fight of the night, Courtevius Ramis versus

1046
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 3: Chang Ho lead. That fight was bonkers. It was only

1047
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: like eight minutes long, but it was crazy. Dude, in

1048
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: like a thirty second spin, Lee had full mount on Courtavius.

1049
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: Then ten seconds later, Courtavius is on the back with

1050
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: both hooks, and then ten seconds later Lee is on

1051
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: the back with a fucking body triangle. It was just

1052
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: crazy scrambles, all action. Courtevious' nickname is are you not Entertained?

1053
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: And I got to say I was freaking entertained that

1054
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: entire time.

1055
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 1: That was great.

1056
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1057
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: Me, to me, that fight was a little sloppy, which

1058
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: is why I didn't put it in there. But I

1059
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: can agree that there was plenty of action, plenty of

1060
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: momentum switching. It's not a bad choice at all. Certainly.

1061
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cortavius did misweight by a lot, but he did

1062
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: come in and lose entertaining.

1063
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: By the way, and Joe Joe Martinez announced it, and

1064
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: when he was announcing the weights, he was like and

1065
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: coming in over the bansamweight limit at one thirty nine

1066
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: point five, I was like, Wow.

1067
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: The best, the best announced, the best in cage announcer

1068
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: in mixed martial arts today.

1069
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. I've

1070
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: always thought Joseph's WEC days was amazing.

1071
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've worked on the same boxing cards with him

1072
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: as a gentleman, He's a great guy. All right, let's

1073
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: go to topic number three. This should get you fired up.

1074
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: Why because UFC three fourteen hits Miami this Saturday. It's loaded.

1075
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: In fact, before I even tee up a question in, Luke,

1076
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: let's take another look at the main card that we're

1077
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: going to see there, of course, headlined by an interim

1078
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: featherweight title about in the main event pairing Alexander Volkanowski

1079
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 2: and Diego Lopez, but you can see up and down

1080
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: all bangers. So, Luke, we have a lot of potential

1081
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: storylines to work with. Obviously, on Wednesday we're gonna take

1082
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: a few shots of Quervo and get into it big time.

1083
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: But from the title return of the thirty six year

1084
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: old VULC to Patricio Pitpull's debut Patty pimblet step up,

1085
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: which storyline of this very exciting card on Saturday has

1086
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: you the most jacked up, focused and excited.

1087
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: For man, there's I mean, obviously that main event is tremendous,

1088
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: and I know you've got a different answer, so I

1089
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: don't want to step on it. And we kind of

1090
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: talked about this ahead of time, but I think you

1091
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: know where my head is at in all of this

1092
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: is two things I would say BC. Let me say

1093
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: the first one that I want to add the second

1094
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: very quickly. First thing I'm gonna say is I think

1095
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: the introduction to the UFC of Patricio pit Bull. There

1096
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: are ways in which this goes where it's a big bust.

1097
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: We have to acknowledge that he can go in there

1098
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: against Yeah, you're Rodriguez on this main card, get flat

1099
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: lined or beat up or just kind of made to

1100
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: look lesser than and fans are going to go, oh,

1101
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: that's the best fighter in bellatre history. He got his

1102
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: ass whooped by Yeah Rodriguez, who's a good fighter, but

1103
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: you know has already lost to Vulk and you know

1104
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: lost to Max and you know, you name it, like,

1105
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: has proven to be good, but not the best in

1106
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: this division, certainly not by a long shot. That is

1107
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: a real risk that they run, which, by the way,

1108
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: to me makes it exciting and as we've indicated, this

1109
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: is not prime Pitbull. This is a thirty seven year

1110
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: old pit Bull. So even if you were to lose,

1111
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: you're not beating the best version of that this guy's

1112
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: ever been, and you have to kind of acknowledge that. However,

1113
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: b See, However, you know you mentioned over the weekend

1114
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: that there was at least some rumors of Aaron Pico

1115
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: being added to this division. Now we know for a

1116
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: fact obviously that Pitbull is here. And if pit Bull

1117
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: can get a win at age thirty seven over a

1118
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: top five guy, I mean, understand what's happening here. Who

1119
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: would be in front of him in the rankings? B

1120
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: See Movsar is sitting at four. But if you're the

1121
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: best fighter in Belitar history and you come over and

1122
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: you knuckle Yai Rodriguez into the canvas, you're gonna leap him.

1123
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: After that's Diego. Diego's already in the main event. Max

1124
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: Max is up at fifty five, and then number one

1125
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: is Vulkan, who's also in the main event. The point

1126
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is, with the right kind of performance,

1127
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: the best fighter in Beltar history is knocking on the

1128
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: door of a title shot. And he's doing it again.

1129
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: If he gets to that place against a known, credible

1130
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: action fighter of an unimpeachable degree. I mean, that is

1131
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: just so freaking awesome for all the people like me

1132
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: who watched the possibility of Fador getting signed to the

1133
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: UFC and then it passing, and then it passing, and

1134
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: then it passing, and then it just completely passed. You know,

1135
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a thing where you understand, but

1136
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: it's lamentable. I watched Fador in Pride and to see

1137
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: that guy never get an opportunity in the UFC, and

1138
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: I know that the negotiations fell through whatever, but you know, never, yeah, vedummy,

1139
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: vedummy messed it up, which, by the way, is kind

1140
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: of funny. Scott Coker co signed on that, so like,

1141
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: so apparently Dana and Scott Coker don't like Vadima whatever

1142
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: his last name was, dummy Finkelstein. That's it. But what

1143
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: do I want to make with Pitpull is to get

1144
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: a guy who's basically maybe Fador is the best fighter

1145
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: in MMA history who never fought in the UFC, but

1146
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: Patricio is right on his heels and now we get

1147
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: to see that in action, and the stakes are such

1148
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: that it's kind of like a dark horse candidate for

1149
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: a title shot. And BC let me add my second point,

1150
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: which is I don't know if Pico was going to

1151
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: be added, but if he is, it only makes this

1152
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: point stronger, which is I'm so mad at Iliga Taporia

1153
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: for leaving this division. I am so bitter about it

1154
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: because if he was still here, not only would you

1155
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: be getting some epic rematches, but look at all of

1156
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: the other potent, amazing fights that could could be available

1157
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: at this unique moment in time for all the belly

1158
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: aching that we do about two h five or heavyweight

1159
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: or you know, you name it, dude, with Ilia at

1160
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: the top, adding Pitbull as a you know and as

1161
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: still as a viable contender, and adding Aaron Pico, Dude,

1162
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about a red hot division in that way,

1163
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: and it's still pretty great. It's still pretty hot, but

1164
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm bitter about it. I'm bitter about it.

1165
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Elia against all those killers is fun.

1166
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: But do you realize what has lately been rumored on

1167
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: Twitter for the International Fight Week main event come come

1168
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: early July or end of June, whenever the date is.

1169
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: It's Ilia versus Islam for the lightweight title one versus

1170
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: two pound for pound in the world. So look that

1171
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: fight trumps all these, Okay, and you know that at

1172
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: the end of the day, y, but.

1173
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: Elia is apparently waiting for the results of three point

1174
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: fifteen and if JDM wins, he's just gonna jump to

1175
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: go fight JDM. He's not gonna fight. So now what

1176
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: are you gonna do for all of that?

1177
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna tell him you have to fight Ilia first,

1178
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: and they're going to pay him to make him do it.

1179
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm starting to get confident we will see that.

1180
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't know about Jones aspinall, but if I get

1181
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: Ilia Islam, I will have a phoner from here to Hanover,

1182
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: Iowa and Ohio. And I think you know that, Luke, Okay,

1183
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: we do have some sound and I echo what you're

1184
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: saying about pipol. I think he's got an opportunity, especially

1185
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: since he said I'll fight at forty five fifty five.

1186
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: He even said He'll fight at seventy For the right matchup,

1187
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: he has an opportunity to do the Michael Chandler plan.

1188
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: Is he passed his peak, Yes, but can he potentially

1189
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: lose big all action fights or sneak a win in there.

1190
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: He might be able to do the Chandler thing. We'll

1191
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: find out. But here's Pipple speaking in English giving us

1192
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: a breakdown of what he expects now that he's inside

1193
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: the octagon.

1194
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 5: Oh, it's it's a great time to me, like, I'm

1195
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 5: all this here, wait for this moment.

1196
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: Then I feel that.

1197
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 5: Ah, pray to God, then say texts because here's uh

1198
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 5: top five Montena and it's put been a great question

1199
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 5: in that division, the most.

1200
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: Complete and Violet Father, Red Planet.

1201
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: It's all good. He's a very spectful guy. He's a

1202
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: very late back guy.

1203
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: You know, we're only going to show.

1204
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: Violence when we get in the octagon.

1205
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 5: It's good. It's a good moment, Joe. I put my

1206
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 5: feet on die take that belt. It depends on my performance.

1207
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: I really don't know.

1208
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 5: But I'll fight against him like Donasad would be that

1209
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 5: great question. He's a top five and here a great

1210
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 5: victor to me, and I believe that it will be

1211
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 5: good for you know, maybe can fight for the title.

1212
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: Let me let me posit a scenario for you here.

1213
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: Let's say, even though Diego Lopez is an underdog, I

1214
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: believe in the main event let's say he wins and

1215
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: becomes the outright champion. There could we see Lopez Pitpole

1216
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: at UFC notch and Wada Wihara later this year?

1217
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: Well a lot of lahara you might be able to

1218
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: see that. Yes, And.

1219
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not like, yeah, years at the

1220
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: top of his game, right, he's lost two of his

1221
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: last three. It'd be interesting.

1222
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, No, I mean again, it's it's one of

1223
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: those situations where the UFC is kind of, you know,

1224
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: like we're kind of rolling the dice there and kind

1225
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: of seeing what comes up, and they're gonna make a

1226
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: play based on all these options. But that's the point

1227
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make, Like, dude, forty five is so

1228
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: freaking hot. It's so good even with like, you know,

1229
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: you got Briano ticket still sitting at six. I don't

1230
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: think he really deserves to be sitting at six, but

1231
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna be fun for the right kind

1232
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: of matchup, depending on how things go. So, you know, dude,

1233
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: you could get you could get ya Eir versus Lopez

1234
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: by the way, for that note check card, you could

1235
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: get pit Bull versus I don't.

1236
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: Know, Volk Vulk. You know what I mean like, there's just.

1237
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: A bunch of really fun possibilities. I am concerned like

1238
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: everybody else at thirty seven. I you know, I have

1239
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: some managed expectations, but I'm telling you Mma is funny

1240
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: and crazy and Pitbull coming over here and making a

1241
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: name for himself at three fourteen is only good for

1242
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: the rest of us.

1243
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: All you can. Let's show this face off video from

1244
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: that kickoff press conference. They did size difference seem big,

1245
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: but I guess you know Pipple is always the shorter

1246
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: guy against everybody. What's making this this face off here?

1247
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a he's I don't make much

1248
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: of it. I you know, you know he's gonna have

1249
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: the height and reach disadvantage. That's just everything he always does.

1250
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: You know. I remember, for folks who haven't seen it

1251
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: or don't remember, I remember when he moved moved up

1252
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: to fifty five and basically one punched Michael Chandler. I

1253
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: mean it's a little more than that, but not much more.

1254
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, his power carries, make no mistake, it's just

1255
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: a question to be seen. We'll talk about this on Wednesday.

1256
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: Can he get close enough quite literally physically too? Ya

1257
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: ear to make this work, and I guess we're gonna

1258
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: find out.

1259
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: Well, look, got you could have We could have each

1260
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: gone a few different ways. It's because this card is

1261
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: so good in terms of what we're focused on. For me,

1262
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 2: it's thirty year old Patty Pumblet. It's not or ever

1263
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: time in a lot of ways. Right, It's time for

1264
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: him to step up. He's he could given the veterans

1265
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: in this division, and he's getting one that's after market

1266
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: of course in Chandler, although he's exciting and maybe a

1267
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: little bit dirty depending on your opinion. But the whole

1268
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: point here is that this is Patty's close up moment.

1269
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: Let's see if he can make that leap. It's one

1270
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: thing to beat an old ass Tony Ferguson and an

1271
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: old ass King Green. Well, now you gotta beat an

1272
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: old ass Michael Chandler. But we know the stakes, we

1273
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: know the drought and star power. This is a big

1274
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: opportunity for Patty to make a massive statement or have

1275
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: it all fall apart spectacularly. But Luke, check out the shape.

1276
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: We know Patty gets big between fights. Check out those

1277
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: abs in the shape that he's coming in. It seems

1278
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: like no stones are left unturned here, dude, I am

1279
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: so fired up for this matchup. Are you as confident

1280
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Speaker 2: as I am? Not that Patty is necessarily the real deal,

1281
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: but that what we saw in the last fight against

1282
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: King Green. He's turning a corner, he's adding as he goes.

1283
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: He might end up in a title fight. Luke, it

1284
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: might happen.

1285
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: I have been down on Patty and I still have

1286
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: some concerns about exactly how good he is. But like

1287
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: he's not only does he look chiseled, b See, he

1288
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: looks big at fifty five. Now he was kind of

1289
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: a little bit scrawnier. He's kind of grown into his

1290
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: size a little bit. And do I think that Chandler's

1291
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: overhand right could send Patty's chin into orbit? Of course

1292
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: I do. But at the same time, Chandler fights recklessly

1293
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: and Patty has good control from the back, And you've

1294
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: seen Chandler submitted that way and multiple guys have gotten

1295
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: his back before. Like, there's a lot of ways this

1296
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: goes real bad for Chandler, who was waiting on that

1297
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: McGregor fi which just ain't never coming. I fucking love

1298
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: this dou This car's this car rules it does I know?

1299
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: I hated starting the show being all negative about that

1300
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: fucking Fight Night card because I'm sorry, there isn't really

1301
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: no other way to talk about it, but negatively for

1302
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: the most part anyway. But this be fourteen card has

1303
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: so much going for it. I can't wait for Wednesdays

1304
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: sit down with Jed, which I call what I'm saying

1305
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: because he is terrible.

1306
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: Long Island look reminded us of the DraftKings. Odds for

1307
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: that main event, by the way, minus one p thirty

1308
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: for Volkanowski plus one ten for the younger Lopez, so

1309
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: that's gonna be fantastic. You have one last bit of sound.

1310
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: I know everybody when we say the name Michael Chandler

1311
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: follows it up with the word dirty. But Luke, it

1312
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: is about time for his arrival, and here's Mike Keck

1313
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: taking Chandler to task about that dirtiness.

1314
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: How do you react to those comments?

1315
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 7: And also just this notion that, hey, that Michael Chandler guy,

1316
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 7: he cheats in his fights. Yeah, I mean the narrative

1317
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 7: is tough, man. People don't really really know me, Like,

1318
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 7: unless you're in my inner circle, you don't know who

1319
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 7: I truly am outside of in front of the camera.

1320
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 7: People have their sneaky suspicions that I'm some you know,

1321
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 7: I play nice in front of the camera and I'm

1322
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 7: a bad guy behind the camera. You're always going to

1323
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 7: have those those accusations, right, But I know who I am,

1324
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 7: and I know who I am at my core, I'm

1325
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 7: a guy who tries to do things right, tries to

1326
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 7: treat people right, do things with honor and respect. So

1327
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 7: the sheeting narrative is a little tough for me, but

1328
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 7: also it's all part of the court of public opinion. Man,

1329
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 7: did I grab dustin Poorie's mouthpiece?

1330
01:04:59,120 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: Yes?

1331
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 7: I did, because I thought it was his chin. I've

1332
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 7: already I've already addressed that one. Things happen in a fight.

1333
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 7: Are you gonna reach over and grab the cage? Are

1334
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 7: you gonna, you know, get your fingers in the glove? Yeah,

1335
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 7: those things are going to happen in a fight. In

1336
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 7: the last fight, Charles Olivera dug his chin so deep

1337
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 7: into my eye socket that I thought I was gonna.

1338
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: Go blind, which is illegal.

1339
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 7: It's an eyegage, right. He was grabbing my gloves when

1340
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 7: he was trying to joke me like there were there

1341
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 7: was These things happen when you're inside of the cage.

1342
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 2: I would never say that Charles Olivera is a cheater.

1343
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 7: His body is reacting and doing things without his brain's permission.

1344
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 7: Right you're in fight or flight, things happen, So it's

1345
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 7: it's a tough narrative. With that being said, I also

1346
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 7: respect Patty for not making a big deal out of it.

1347
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's a sign of weakness when

1348
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 7: you start talking about a guy cheating.

1349
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: Well, look, there is unfortunately a long there's a long history.

1350
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: People are playing old early bellator clips of him grabbing

1351
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: the fence to get up. I mean, it's kind of

1352
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: part of his game.

1353
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: Maybe the large I don't I don't want to hear shit.

1354
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: The referees don't enforce it. Why the fuck would.

1355
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: You not do it?

1356
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: No, you're an idiot if you don't do it.

1357
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: I texted you, Jason Herzog when Lauren Murphy gotta put

1358
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: his fingers in Josh Emmett's eye during that fight on Saturday.

1359
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: He did say, look, you do that again. I'm taking

1360
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: a point. So that was a step forward. But do

1361
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: you think the larger narrative should be that Chandler's thirty

1362
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: eight and He's lost four of his last five, with

1363
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: the only win being Tony Ferguson, even though he obviously

1364
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: fights super elite competition and goes for broke at all costs.

1365
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: Should it be what I mean? You're asking what should

1366
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: the narrative be or surrounding one about.

1367
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: Chance instead of hit him being dirty? Is should the

1368
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: narrative be? Have what it takes at this level?

1369
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: I think I'll say this to the extent the fight

1370
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: is won or lost is going to be decided by

1371
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 1: those broader factors. But I'm sorry. In a world where

1372
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: the referees absolutely refuse, not all of them, not all

1373
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: the time, obviously, but as a general proposition, in a

1374
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: world and in a sport where the referees do not

1375
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: penalize fouls, why would you ever get mad at a

1376
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: fighter for fouling? Oh that's dirty? No it's not. They

1377
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: don't do shit about it. Play the play the rules

1378
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: to your advantage. You get one shot at this every

1379
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: single time you're out there. You don't get any duovers,

1380
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, hardly likely anyway. Make it count. They're not

1381
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: going to penalize you for it. Fucking do it. I

1382
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care. I don't care even a

1383
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: little bit.

1384
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: Well, eleven am Eastern on Wednesday, from Metal Arcs Studios

1385
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: in Manhattan. We'll be bringing in Jed Micheu. We'll be

1386
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: drinking some Quervo. It's going to be your UFC three

1387
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: to fourteen pregame preview. Get ready, it's gonna get wild.

1388
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, now's a good time to

1389
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: remember where tequila's story truly began. In seventeen ninety five,

1390
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: Quervo invented tequila, and since then to Quervo, excuse me,

1391
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: has stayed true to its roots. We're talking the same family,

1392
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: the same land, that same passion. Two hundred and thirty

1393
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: years later, Quervo is still there in every pore, in

1394
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: every margarita, in every celebration. So enjoy it to the

1395
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: tequila that started at all. Yeah, that's Quervo, the tequila,

1396
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: the invented tequila Proximoquervo dot com. And remember, please drink responsively.

1397
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: So we were all set up here for Wednesday. We

1398
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: are going to have a great time. But let's transition

1399
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: now to the sport of the box. In topic number four,

1400
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: interesting question to kind of kick it off. Has boxing's

1401
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: reliance upon Riad's sisson come to an end? Or are

1402
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: we watching it come to an end? You may ask

1403
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. We've got a couple pieces of

1404
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: business here to set this topic up, first of all

1405
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: being Shaker Stevenson, the Lightweight champions response to William's Apeieda

1406
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: promoter carl oscar de la Hoya, who said, after all

1407
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: the shit talking, Shakuerr pulls out of as Apeida fight,

1408
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: Shaker comes back with it is that what they told you?

1409
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: Turkey promised me a number, and now he's going back

1410
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: way back on that number that he promised and sending

1411
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: his towel boys an unfortunate remark to run me the

1412
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: info instead of telling me straight up what he trying

1413
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: to do. Bow down to nobody, mister de la Hoya.

1414
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: Now let's negotiate. And then also Shakor would say this

1415
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: about the fight itself, that he's done negotiating because one thing,

1416
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: he's the champ. So whether the fight gets done with

1417
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: these people, meaning Turkey in RIAD season or not, I'm

1418
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: stepping on dude, but the fight will be made next. So,

1419
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, I want to start right here. The March

1420
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: fifth announcement that Dana White and Turkey Ala Shechk are

1421
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: going to form this upcoming TKO boxing lead has appeared

1422
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 2: to supercharge everyone else in the business who's trying to

1423
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: figure out where their place is moving forward, not only

1424
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 2: our PBC and top rank rumoring or straight up planning

1425
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 2: to work together in the future. You've got more fighters

1426
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: like Shakor Tayo Fi Malpez who will show in a

1427
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: second speaking out it seems against Turkey. So has the

1428
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: mass exodus of boxing's reliance upon RIAD season begun or

1429
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: does it appear possibly to you that Saudi Arabia has

1430
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: begun tightening up the purse strings for everyone not named

1431
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: TKO ahead of what we expect to be this September

1432
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: TKO launch on Netflix of Bud and Canelo.

1433
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think we're ready to declare mass exodus yet.

1434
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: I would have to see a lot of maneuvering for

1435
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: that to be the case. But I do think that

1436
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: there are some interesting things in place BC. Let's piece

1437
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: them all together here for a second. First of all,

1438
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with this May second show that's

1439
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: supposed to take place in Times Square. I don't know

1440
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: what the status is of it. It could be a

1441
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: big hit for them, But we'll have to see how

1442
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: that goes and how that's executed. That's the first thing

1443
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm going to say. It's a small note, but keep

1444
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: it in mind. The second thing I'm gonna say is

1445
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: BC this remark from by the way, I know he

1446
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: said towel boys. Isn't that just a reference to like

1447
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: country club people, like, you know, like an errand person,

1448
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: not a turbine wearing.

1449
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I assume the worst because it's backus

1450
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: combat sports, but I.

1451
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: Don't know how I took it to be a statement

1452
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: of you're a servant, not a not a cultural but

1453
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I mean, who the fun.

1454
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: That's actually a fair possibility. But I think like this, Luke,

1455
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: it is what it receives.

1456
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: Right, It is what the people. It's not what you say,

1457
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: it's what they hear. Okay, fair enough. The one I'm

1458
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: trying to make is that to me was shocking that

1459
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: he did this over the weekend, very very very surprising

1460
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: that he was now creating some distance between himself and Listen.

1461
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: Here's the Here is what Shaquer Stevenson is saying, and

1462
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: I think it's what all these guys would basically say,

1463
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 1: but some are more likely to say it than others, namely, yeah,

1464
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: I'll do business with Saudi Arabia, i will do business

1465
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: with Turkey. I'll put on a happy face, I'll show up,

1466
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: I'll fight hard, I'll train hard, I'll do everything you

1467
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: want me to do, and I'll play ball. And we

1468
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: can even fight in Riodd. We don't have to fight

1469
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: in Newark, or pick your hometown in the case of

1470
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: Shirker Stevenson to be Newark, New Jersey. But if you're

1471
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: not going to pay top dollar for that, then I

1472
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: don't really have any interest at all. It's not like

1473
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: he has any great affinity for fighting in Riyodd. It's

1474
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: not like he's got any great affinity for Turkey on

1475
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: a personal level. It's not like he's got any great

1476
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: affinity for the broader, potentially social or sporting project that

1477
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: the Sautas are trying with their investments in sports more generally,

1478
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: not just this, but of course there was the live

1479
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: golf tournament over the weekend in one of President Trump's properties.

1480
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: So if you don't have any attachment to that at

1481
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: all other than transactionally, if you overpay for me I'll

1482
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,879
Speaker 1: go do this. Well, what happens when you start winding

1483
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: down what that payment looks like? All of a sudden

1484
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: that entire business proposition becomes a lot less attractive. I

1485
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: would add something else on top of that, BC, which

1486
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: is what we already know the eighteen months or even

1487
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: now I guess seventeen months left on Turkey's deal with

1488
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: these other promoters, Like, we know that's coming to a close,

1489
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: and I feel like the closer we get, the uglier

1490
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: it's going to get. That's just a personal feeling that,

1491
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, kind of having seen this movie before. I mean,

1492
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: this is a particularly unique situation, but when promoters stop

1493
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: working together, it gets a little bit uglier at the end.

1494
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: And the last thing I'm gonna say too is you know,

1495
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't I'm trying to be as honest as I

1496
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: possibly can be. I'm not trying to make an argument

1497
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: for invoking some kind of political discussion here. What I

1498
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: am going to say is BC, should there be a

1499
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: market downturn, and particularly on the price of oil, that

1500
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: could have a pretty important cascading effect on what the

1501
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: Saudis are able to spend on any of their sporting ventures,

1502
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: and particularly one at boxing, which is a little bit

1503
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: at the margins. And I think the question you have

1504
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: to ask yourself is even independent of that, if you

1505
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: if you don't even want to get into that BC,

1506
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: it's why is Turkey turning the whatever the price was,

1507
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: Why is he dialing it back to me? That's a

1508
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: step that that to me is like, what is the

1509
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: impetus behind that at this moment, because that will probably

1510
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: tell you the foreshadow that probably is in fact the

1511
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: foreshadowing that awaits a lot of these guys who've had

1512
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: deals with him.

1513
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we all knew the money wasn't gonna last,

1514
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 2: just like when PBC came out in twenty fifteen and

1515
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: put boxing on every network and everybody was getting these

1516
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,520
Speaker 2: huge salaries. We knew that that was not possibly sustainable

1517
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 2: for the long run. It was more about trying to

1518
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: attract a big TV deal. We feel like we know

1519
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: the motives of Turkey and Saudi Arabia coming out as

1520
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: aggressively as they did, so I think all the points

1521
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: you made could very well be it, just like all

1522
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: the points where I'm trying to make of how many

1523
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: promoters thought they were in bed with Turkey. Maybe even

1524
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: for the long run only to get that announcement on

1525
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: March fifth that basically said you're on the outside looking in,

1526
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: even though we oddly still have this contract to work

1527
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: together for a while. I do feel like Saudi Arabia

1528
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: is pulling back the purse strings. Could it be situational

1529
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: because Shaker Stevenson currently has such a poor representation, poor reputation.

1530
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: Excuse me from a marketing standpoint. Remember he fought on

1531
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: the greatest last crescendo card of all time against that

1532
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: last minute Electrician and you know didn't necessarily sizzle. Is

1533
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: this just Turkey making a statement against that? Don't think

1534
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: that's the case. I think it's the larger picture of Okay,

1535
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,520
Speaker 2: we've announced it, we've called our shot in the distance,

1536
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 2: and look, there are people on the inside, by the way,

1537
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: who believe the timing of that announcement on March fifth

1538
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: was a retaliation to the rumors of the money that

1539
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 2: Jake Paul was trying to put together and the prospect

1540
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: of him getting on Netflix with a series before TKO

1541
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: could launch. So there's a lot of competing factors right here.

1542
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: But it is interesting how many people are coming out

1543
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: now that used to be in Turkey's back pocket are

1544
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: coming out against him. Also, it's interesting that that time

1545
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: Square card has been changed now to a pay per

1546
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: view on his own, as has the fight card in

1547
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 2: two weeks. I believe when Connor Bet and Chris Ubank

1548
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 2: kick off the Ring Magazine series, that'll be a pay

1549
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: per view in the States as well on his own.

1550
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 2: So let's show this final tweet from Shakor, which feels

1551
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: to me like a grand statement here, real men stand up,

1552
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: never bow down to nobody but the creator. I mean, look,

1553
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: that feels to me like he's saying exactly what you said, Like, Hey,

1554
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: if Turkey's gonna give me the money, that's fine. I'm

1555
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: not begging, I'm not taking a knee, I'm not gonna

1556
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 2: hold his hand on the video. I think that's what

1557
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: the rest of American boxing is doing. That's why PBC

1558
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: and Top Rank are willing to publicly show now that

1559
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: they're they're gonna work together. We have one other tweet

1560
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 2: here that was deleted or I think it was an

1561
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: Instagram response from Tayo Femo Lopez. The one on the

1562
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 2: left that circled it says this is in response to

1563
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: a Ring Magazine tweet of one month away the May

1564
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: second card, and Tao said, the promotion you guys been

1565
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: doing on your card has been shit emoji and then Luke.

1566
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: That got deleted.

1567
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,520
Speaker 1: And he tagged he tagged Turkey.

1568
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: And that got deleted, and he came back and said,

1569
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 2: May second is going to be a super stardom night

1570
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: of boxing. Great job to everyone, and Hi meaning his

1571
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: excellency Turkey as they like to call him, Luke. You

1572
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: could also put that as Tao be crazy. He's saying

1573
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: all kinds of crazy shit. Yeah, but I think that

1574
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: people are starting to realize that you're gonna be with

1575
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: take Tko slash Turkey, or you're gonna be against them

1576
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: very shortly.

1577
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how you can draw any

1578
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: other conclusion. And like this is the problem when like

1579
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: they're doing business with somebody, it doesn't make a lot

1580
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: of sense. But if they just overpay, you just kind

1581
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: of look the other way. If you reduce the pay,

1582
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: like there's nothing left, there's absolutely nothing left. It's like

1583
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: comically and again, everyone was gonna want the highest pay,

1584
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if the only thing keeping you there

1585
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 1: is comically overpriced, you know, totally beyond what the market

1586
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: calls for paydays, I mean, get them while you can,

1587
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: get them while you can. But if you're not going

1588
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 1: to maintain those, it's going to be hard to maintain

1589
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: the business that was underwriting it.

1590
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: Right Well, Look, one more person who has been in

1591
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 2: Turkey's back pocket is Oscar de la Hoye of Golden

1592
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: Boy Promotions, and he used part of his infamous clapback

1593
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 2: Thursdays this past week to go hard in the pain

1594
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: against data TKO. And if you're gonna do that, by extension,

1595
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: I think it means Turkey too. Let's hear part of it.

1596
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 9: And speaking of scumbags, you can't run a boxing organization

1597
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,440
Speaker 9: when you don't have any fighters. And right now TKO

1598
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 9: and Dana have zero fighters. What no fighters going to

1599
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 9: fight for these pennies. The majority of their prospects will

1600
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 9: fight one or two times a year and be forced

1601
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 9: to survive on minimum pay. And keep in mind they

1602
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 9: will be fighting tough fights. Dana said, the best must

1603
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 9: fight the best, so their careers will be short.

1604
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: No pay per view.

1605
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 9: Fighter will fight for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

1606
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 9: You're telling me the Canalos and the rhinds of this

1607
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 9: world are going to agree to this kind of pay cut.

1608
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: We might not like it.

1609
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 9: No, the UFC fighters will be so pissed.

1610
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,560
Speaker 2: The TKO boxers will be getting paid.

1611
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 9: So much more than they are. UFC fighters are already

1612
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 9: disgusted with how little they get paid for putting their

1613
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 9: lives on the line. Dana already tried several times to

1614
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 9: get into the boxing space in the past. Remember ZUFA,

1615
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 9: which never even got off the ground.

1616
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 8: The reason you've never seen me do anything is because.

1617
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 9: When Dana doesn't have the funding and the business brains

1618
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 9: already in place, like the fertinas are Turkey, he always fails.

1619
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 9: How about the ultimate server or the power set? Well

1620
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 9: as for Dana's character, it speaks for itself. Ida't even

1621
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 9: have to say anything about a guy who publicly snapped

1622
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 9: his own wife and his own mother wrote a book

1623
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 9: about what a terrible person her son is, and it's

1624
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 9: available on Amazon if you want to read it yourself.

1625
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 9: Will I work with Dana in the future if he's

1626
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 9: in the boxing space, Sure, because eighty percent of the

1627
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 9: folks I deal with in boxing.

1628
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 2: Are scull bags. Anyway, Look, it seems a little glass

1629
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: houses on there from Oscar.

1630
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, I would hardly take a

1631
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, an insult fest from Oscar as like some

1632
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: kind of brave truth telling. I will say, however, those

1633
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: are getting smoother in terms of delivery, like he's clearly

1634
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: hired a rider or something. You know.

1635
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, joke writer from the beginning, I think too, Yeah,

1636
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 2: but that is interesting. We'll see where the marriages and

1637
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: divorces within boxing promotion continue to play out as the

1638
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: year progresses. Topic number five is a quick look back

1639
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: and a very quick look ahead at what's actually going

1640
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: on in the sport of boxing and over the weekend,

1641
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: Tim Zoo, the son of the Hall of Famer, had

1642
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: his Australian return after an absolutely disastrous twenty twenty four,

1643
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: stopping Joey Spencer in four rounds. So after a close start,

1644
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: Zoo would go on to mop up Spencer using hard

1645
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: combinations and building off the jab to end that two

1646
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 2: fight losing skid. Luke, did the soul taker look like

1647
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: he was all the way back from what happened last year?

1648
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: Uh? He looked good for as long as it lasted.

1649
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: I just don't know what to make of Joey Spencer.

1650
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of funny. Joey Spencer's from Minnesota. Yeah,

1651
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: I believe that's right, because.

1652
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

1653
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: Well, Ilhan Omar, who is the congressman or one of

1654
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: the congressmen from uh Minnesota, was tweeting about it early

1655
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: and then as the fight wore on, she was like,

1656
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: my god, is he even gonna fight back? Like even

1657
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: I think even the local congressman was like, goddamn, dude,

1658
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: do something about it. So here's the thing. I think

1659
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: Joey Spencer's a by the way, Michigan. Joey Spencer's from Michigan.

1660
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: Well maybe he's got residents in Minnesota or some kind

1661
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't fucking know.

1662
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: But she was tweeting about it like she was all

1663
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: disappointed anyway, neither here nor there. What I'm trying to

1664
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: point out, BC is it wasn't like a stern test.

1665
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: This was not another Mrdazaliev, you know what I mean,

1666
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: That's not who this was. And it's not another certainly

1667
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: not Keith, I mean even like a washed Keith Thrmon.

1668
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what that's what this was. But

1669
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, did he a perform. Well, yes, and b

1670
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 1: this was the most important part of BC, and I

1671
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: think we have some sound to this effect. It was

1672
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: what he said afterwards, He's like, yeah, it turns out

1673
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: if you don't like I mean, he didn't say this exactly,

1674
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: but it was kind of like, if you don't fight

1675
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: like a dumbass and you just an't rush into things,

1676
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: you get better results. So this was a downgrade and opponent.

1677
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: It was a get right fight. By the way, get

1678
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: right fights are important. Tuneup fights are important. They can

1679
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: absolutely rebuild confidence and get you going again. But it

1680
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: was to me the understanding that you know, he was

1681
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: the architect of his own demise and that Mrdasalia fight,

1682
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: and hell, he's not gonna do that.

1683
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: Anymore, dude, one hundred percent. So even even though Spencer

1684
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: is not a world killer, he's largely responsible defensively, he's quick,

1685
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: he can do some things. And the whole point that

1686
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: I took from it, which you kind of echoed, was

1687
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 2: he just didn't come out with his hands down getting

1688
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: hit with the same punch when he builds behind his

1689
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: jab and he's godhead movement and the defensive sound, which

1690
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: it was, dude, he's a completely different fighter. He's a

1691
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 2: near super elite fighter. Like that's the facts. He didn't

1692
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 2: have that against Murdazali of the same mistake he made

1693
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 2: against Goshet in that first round when he got dropped.

1694
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: You can't just go to terminator mode. You gotta build

1695
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: it up. I think he's now learned that lesson. I'm

1696
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: not saying that this as you he's gonna knock out

1697
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford in an undisputed match, but I do believe

1698
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: he put it back on track. Let's hear from him

1699
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: in the ring with Ben Damon after the fight.

1700
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 6: Learn from my mistakes. You don't go in like a

1701
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 6: hothead from the first round and just abandon everything.

1702
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: So learn my lesson.

1703
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 6: And I had one hell of an opponent with me

1704
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 6: with Joey Spencer, So I'm blessed to share the ring

1705
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 6: with him. And are you gonna have plenty more opportunities.

1706
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: In the future. Who will you share the ring with next?

1707
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 6: Because we had Keith Thurman out in the country a

1708
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 6: little while ago.

1709
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: Do you have a message for him or someone else? Yeah?

1710
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 6: You know it, man, If the fans want to and

1711
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 6: we can bring a mega show to Australia. The boys,

1712
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 6: I no Lima, you know who to contact and now

1713
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 6: we'll we'll do a big show here.

1714
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: Well look, Thurman put out a video in the middle

1715
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: of the night that said send the contract, I'll sign it.

1716
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Zoo would outland Spencer in that fight, according to compy

1717
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: box eighty one to twenty five, connecting on fifty four

1718
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: percent of his power shots, and again the best news

1719
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: was he wasn't getting lit up in return, So big

1720
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 2: win there, Luke. There was a couple other boxing notes

1721
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 2: that we saw. One of them, of course, was Joe Joyce,

1722
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: who really looked washed here in his late thirties as

1723
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: he would lose again, this time to Philip Bergovich. It

1724
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 2: was a fight that was boring. His hecket heated up

1725
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: a bit at the end. And then we got this

1726
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: tweet from UK announcer Adam Catterall. That's really just asking,

1727
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 2: he says, Joe Joyce is absolutely entertaining, but he's the

1728
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman kind of greatest showman. Come see the bearded

1729
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: lady way. The money is irrelevant when his later quality

1730
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: of life won't allow him to enjoy that wealth. Wealth.

1731
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: I hope his loved ones encourage him to stop. I

1732
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: think he put out that tweet in reaction to Joyce

1733
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: coming out in the postfight interview and saying, I want

1734
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: to keep fighting. There's a lot of great matchups for me.

1735
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 2: But let's look at his box truck page up close.

1736
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,919
Speaker 2: I mean, look look at that fall from stopping Dubois

1737
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: and unbeaten Dubois knocking out Carlos Tacum knocking out Joe

1738
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: Parker to what we've seen in the last five fights.

1739
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: You can't make a guy stop. I mean, there's journeymen

1740
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 2: that go on into their forties and fifties, but I

1741
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: don't need to see any more of him at the

1742
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 2: elite level. He just gets beat up. That's that's just

1743
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: the facts.

1744
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, maybe he's hoping for a big Saudi

1745
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: payday of some kind, and I can understand that, but

1746
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: I actually I echo what Adam Caterall says, that this

1747
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: is it's time. Yeah.

1748
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, I forgot to hype this up on the

1749
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: on the setup last week. But on that Richard Torres

1750
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: Junior top ranked card in Las Vegas, the co Maine,

1751
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, not the Cole Maine. One of the undercard

1752
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: fights saw Abdullah Mason on his twenty first birthday, go

1753
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: in there and get a nice stoppage win against his

1754
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 2: opponent Ornellis and Luke. He's eighteen and oh with sixteen KOs.

1755
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: But like Bruce Carrington a week before, dude, he's talking

1756
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: about title shots at lightweight like soon maybe next. Let's

1757
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: hear a quick sound here from Mason.

1758
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 10: But like I said, we got the job done.

1759
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: You know, Cabert, we would have did the same thing.

1760
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 6: When were you takeaways from Snai man, that'll help you

1761
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 6: going forward, I guess or not.

1762
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: Less, you know, just go back to the drawing board.

1763
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 10: You know, you can always room for improve me no

1764
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 10: matter how you do, it's always on to improvement. So

1765
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 10: you know that's what this showed me as well. You know,

1766
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 10: every fight and I did great.

1767
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 11: You know, yeah, durable opponent.

1768
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 10: I was touching him, you know I got him out

1769
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 10: of there.

1770
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: You feel your star breaking out?

1771
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 8: I mean you see how quickly everyone swarmed abound and.

1772
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 1: You had the crowd saying happy birthday. Do you feel

1773
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: your star is beginning to break out? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely.

1774
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 10: You know it's only a better time, you know, Bob

1775
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 10: told me right after the fight. You know, keep stay focused,

1776
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 10: and you're gonna get the face of boxing. So you

1777
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 10: know that's what I see myself, fat a facing boxing

1778
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 10: coming up.

1779
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: What would you would you rather?

1780
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 8: Do you have a preference if Keshawn can't keep making

1781
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 8: the way and you eventually have to fight for a

1782
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 8: vacant title, But would you prefer to fight one of.

1783
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 2: The champions instead of winning a vacant title?

1784
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 1: Does it not matter to you either way?

1785
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 10: I mean boxing and determine who you know, what would

1786
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 10: happened when I get there. You know, if I get

1787
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 10: there and I fight somebody who already has a title,

1788
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 10: may end up taking a title, or if I.

1789
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 2: Have to fight for a vacant.

1790
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 10: Title, you know, it doesn't matter, you know, as long

1791
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 10: as I keep stepping it up like all I've been

1792
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 10: doing making these guys, you know, keep stopping these guys.

1793
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 10: I'm making him look how supposed to.

1794
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: Make him look.

1795
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 10: And you know, we just get our job done when

1796
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 10: we get there. So that's what you look forward.

1797
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 6: To right now.

1798
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: Look, you score four knockdowns in this fight, just turn

1799
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 2: twenty one on the night, dude, These young Americans want

1800
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: the smoke. I cannot stop saying it, Like, do you

1801
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 2: want to put the brakes on him or do you

1802
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: want to send him right into something.

1803
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: I was not. I was not overly impressed with the

1804
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: caliber of opponent, so you know, I'm not sure what

1805
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: to say about that. Also, there was a video that

1806
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,480
Speaker 1: would emerge of Shir Kris Stevenson talking to him backstage,

1807
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: which was amazing. Sir Chris Stevenson gave him the best

1808
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: advice for a young fighter in this.

1809
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 2: From the fight where Mason was knocked down twice in

1810
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 2: the first round last year.

1811
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought it was recent, but either way,

1812
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: the advice is still great. Which wash it doesn't matter

1813
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,520
Speaker 1: who it is. Every fighter is dangerous in the first round, everyone,

1814
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: every single one. You have to take your time and

1815
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, methodically apply your game and it might happen

1816
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: that you stop him in the first but it might not.

1817
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 1: So you've got a plan for that, and you know same.

1818
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: I would get the same advice to you know, Timsu

1819
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure understands it now, but you could see a

1820
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: lot of fighters kind of get that that calibration wrong.

1821
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: And anyway, that being said, Abdela Mason obviously is the goods,

1822
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: but I didn't it was a good performance against an

1823
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: opponent that didn't tell me much.

1824
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, Keishan Davis's rumored to be making that title

1825
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: defense against Edwin Delos Santos in June in Norfolks, that'd

1826
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 2: be an interesting fight. We had janebec score a big

1827
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: knockout in his Kazakhs down home coming. Didn't get a

1828
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: lot of pub but it was a beautiful finish right there.

1829
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: But Luke, this Saturday, we do have a card that

1830
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're going to be interested in. It's going

1831
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 2: to be on his own and it is a welterweight

1832
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 2: title unification from Atlantic City. Here are your odds. According

1833
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: to DraftKings, Jeron Bootsenis will be a minus six fifty

1834
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: favorite against the Lithuanian and the unbeaten eye Montes Staniosis,

1835
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 2: who is plus four point fifty the underdog. This will

1836
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: bring together the IBF and WBA welterweight titles at a

1837
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: time when this division could really use some life here, Luke,

1838
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 2: Boots got criticized a lot for that kind of lifeless

1839
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: performance last time out in that unnecessary mandatory rematch with Chukantzi,

1840
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: And are you excited about what can happen here on Saturday?

1841
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 2: Which is without question, the most dangerous fight of Boots' career.

1842
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been waiting for Boots to get a dangerous,

1843
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: tough opponent that forced him out of doing whatever he

1844
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: wants to. Now Chukazan in that last one or two

1845
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: k's and however you want to say it, he did

1846
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: better than the first time where he just ran that ran,

1847
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: but you know, it was on the outside the entire time.

1848
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: He kind of brought the fight to Boots a little

1849
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: bit more, but at the same time, you just you know,

1850
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: he's a good fighter, skill fighter, certainly, but it wasn't

1851
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 1: like Boots got really pushed. There were issues that emerged

1852
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: though from that PC, which was to what extent is

1853
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: Boots somewhat lackadaisical about defense. I feel like Stani Josis

1854
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: give gives us another not really another chance to assess that,

1855
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: but to see to what extent that is a real

1856
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: liability against somebody who's you know, a better fighter and

1857
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, a championship level fighter at that. So it's

1858
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 1: one of his fights where you like, we've been kind

1859
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: of waiting for Boots to round a corner, around the corner,

1860
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: around the corner. This is not the name opponent, and

1861
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: there's other levels beyond this, certainly, but this is definitely

1862
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: one of the more meaningful ones in his career, maybe

1863
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 1: the most meaningful to date.

1864
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Standiosis is tough, he's strong, he could take a punch,

1865
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: he gets inside and goes to the body. So it

1866
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 2: could be the type of style that could corner and

1867
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: slow down Boots. But we do know Boots is gonna

1868
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 2: have big advantages and speed, athleticism and just dynamic ability,

1869
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 2: which is why the odds are where they are. And

1870
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 2: just a reminder, the other two weltereight champions, Brian Norman

1871
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 2: Junior with top rank Mario Barrios with PBC. If we

1872
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: could see that relationship produce them in a unification fight

1873
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 2: and then have Boots the winner of Boots Standiosa's fight

1874
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 2: the winner, that could be interesting. Here's Boots talking to

1875
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: me on the BCX about that criticism against him after

1876
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 2: a lackluster performance and kind of the recent stretch leading

1877
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 2: up to this.

1878
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 12: You know, nothing we've never seen before. You know, uh,

1879
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 12: come forward, ends up high, try to punches. There's nothing

1880
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 12: we've never seen before. It Now, like I said, I'm

1881
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 12: ready to show we're around the best in the world.

1882
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 2: What do you plan on showing? Do you play? Do

1883
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 2: you look at this light and think you can you

1884
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: can outslick him and almost not get touched, or are

1885
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 2: you willing to go through him if you have to?

1886
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, tune in able to and see you know, And

1887
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 12: I gotta be telling everybody before then, don't get up

1888
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 12: to get no popcorn, don't go check the door or nothing.

1889
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Still keep your eyes glued to the screen. I love it.

1890
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: I love it. Well, look I teed up the wrong

1891
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 2: clip there. He would say about the controvert. It's my fault.

1892
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 2: He would say about the controversy, uh in the criticism

1893
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: that if you give me an elite opponent, you'll get

1894
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 2: an elite performance out of me. And you have to

1895
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 2: feel for him not being able to get those tough

1896
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 2: challenges along the way. He's put some crowds in Philly.

1897
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 2: He's done his job. But Saturday is the true close up.

1898
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it.

1899
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, this is this is this is potentially the

1900
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: first step in a real important turn in his career.

1901
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it goes well.

1902
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 2: All Right, those are our five topics for the week.

1903
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 2: Now we transition to your questions because, as you know,

1904
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 2: every Sunday night at morning combat on X on Instagram,

1905
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 2: we put out the call. It's called DMS from the

1906
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Digity Dogs.

1907
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: Oh wow, we've asked for that to be replaced.

1908
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't know the status you're trolling us at this point, Luke.

1909
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Our first question comes from Kyle J. C. Wagner. Does

1910
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 2: landing zero significant strikes in around mari a point deduction

1911
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: on the basis of timidity. I think he's talking about

1912
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 2: Torres Finny here. Look, if you're only gonna grapple, you're

1913
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 2: not grounded, pounding, you're not connecting. Should you automatically lose

1914
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 2: the round or should you go as far as losing

1915
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 2: a damn point?

1916
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 11: Uh?

1917
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: No, he's The question was automatically, no, not automatically. I

1918
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: could imagine a world where you get picked up and

1919
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: slammed hard. That would not be a case where they're

1920
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: landing significant strikes, but there's still damage being done. So

1921
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 1: it would be a weird one to do that for

1922
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: five minutes. But the question was automatically, no, not automatically.

1923
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 2: I didn't see the word automatically in there.

1924
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: Did you sw it up one more time? Okay? So

1925
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: he didn't say automatically, I invented that. All right, does

1926
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: landings zero significant strikes in around merit? So I'll say

1927
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: the answer is it could. It could, But okay, let

1928
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: me answer it this way. I wouldn't automatically make it

1929
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: that way. I would it would have to be a

1930
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,839
Speaker 1: case by case basis because you can have damaging offense

1931
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 1: without it. It's just a little bit weird and rare

1932
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: to do it that way.

1933
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Let's go to question number

1934
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 2: two from c Cody Sanders S. Do you think last

1935
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 2: week's PFL event was better than this week's past ufcapex event?

1936
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's not even a very difficult question to answer.

1937
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree. I mean, on paper, you can argue,

1938
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 2: but it's it's how it played out ultimately.

1939
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: And I mean, larone Murphy might be the best fighter

1940
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: on either of those two cards. That's somewhat debatable, but

1941
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:01,759
Speaker 1: that's that could potentially be true. But event to event,

1942
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, but here's the thing, Like the PFL event

1943
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: was very good but had its limits, and that that

1944
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: UFC event was, like, you know, of all the good

1945
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: that UFC can do, that was much closer to the

1946
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: bad of it, so to me, it's like, yeah, did

1947
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,600
Speaker 1: the PFL event surpass it? I mean, it's not impossible

1948
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: for other events to surpass UFC events, It's just they

1949
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: can't surpass it at the high end.

1950
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 2: For sure. Number three comes to us from Frankfurt or

1951
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 2: sixty seven. This man must love the wiener Ben slack

1952
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: in on my UFC watching what's the best upcoming fight

1953
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 2: to get excited for it? Luke, everybody knows what's loaded

1954
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 2: on three fourteen. Do you want to answer beyond that? Oh?

1955
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 2: Or do we just say check the three fourteen main

1956
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 2: card and get fired up.

1957
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 1: I mean, it has to be the three fourteen main card.

1958
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: It's just such a good card. Beyond that, I mean,

1959
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on Ilia, I'm still waiting on Islam.

1960
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of interesting fights on three fifteen.

1961
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: Obviously the Ian Gary Carlos Protest fights a big one.

1962
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 2: I would go with that. That's April twenty six. And

1963
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: then also you have San Hagen versus Figaredo, which is

1964
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good main event. Ye on that card,

1965
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 2: r Dr versus bo Nickel and the Colemane.

1966
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 1: That's not fantastic, yep. Fantastic. So there's that. Mean, dude,

1967
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: UFC puts on good fights.

1968
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, are you feeling at all what I'm feeling for

1969
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 2: May tenth and kbec when Chevchenko in Farrow put it

1970
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: together at one twenty five?

1971
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: Nah, I'm not super pumped for that.

1972
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1973
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I don't

1974
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 1: hate it, but I'm not like crazy pumped for it.

1975
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,799
Speaker 2: I appreciate your honesty there. Also we have a question

1976
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 2: from Noah underscore gosho UFC one style round robin tournament,

1977
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Gable Steveson, Gordon Ryan, Tyson Fury, and Rico Verehooven. Who wins?

1978
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:44,919
Speaker 1: Probably Gable Steveson.

1979
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,839
Speaker 2: Really you don't think Gordon Ryan can tap.

1980
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: Him in mm A Yeah, unlikely, unlikely. Yeah, Tyson Fury possible? Possible, Yeah, possible.

1981
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean Tyson Fury gets dominated here. They're real quick.

1982
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 2: The real wildcard is Rico, isn't it.

1983
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: The real wildcard is Gordon. I don't think Rico or

1984
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,839
Speaker 1: Tyson have a shot in hell. The question is Gordon

1985
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: does he have a shot for a submission in Again,

1986
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 1: let me just be clear about this. This was like submission grappling.

1987
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: I picked Gordon, you know, easily, and it was very easy.

1988
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Great with strikes, it becomes a very very different different ballgame.

1989
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 2: You don't think Rico could stuff a takedown and hurt

1990
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 2: these guys.

1991
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: He has fought MMA. I think he could, you know what?

1992
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 1: To that point, yeah, he could, he's fought mm A.

1993
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how recently he's trained his

1994
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: wrestling and would it looks like today? But you know,

1995
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: to the point you raise, he's done. He does have

1996
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:37,560
Speaker 1: some MMA experience, so that's something to count on.

1997
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 2: And while gables athleticism, physicality, and wrestling are obviously assumed

1998
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 2: that we assume that they'd be very good. Can he

1999
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 2: take a punch? You got to figure that out too,

2000
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, would you say brock Lesner couldn't?

2001
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 2: I mean he could, he could take a punch, but

2002
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 2: it would it would change him in a fight quickly.

2003
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: He lost composure under fire. Yes, yes, all right, there

2004
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: you go.

2005
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Gordon Ryan

2006
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 2: in the end. Yeah, yeah, I think he just makes

2007
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: it gross on the ground and gets the tap.

2008
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: Possible, Absolutely possible.

2009
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's UFC one style, there's no time limit.

2010
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean you could do like the Pride

2011
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: ten minute rule. I mean it's heavyweights. They're not gonna

2012
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: go that long anyway, whatever.

2013
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 2: The rules are, you know, yeah, as long as Gordon

2014
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:22,959
Speaker 2: is healthy, right.

2015
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: I think he's healthy right now? Are healthy enough?

2016
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 2: We have one more from Mt booble thoughts on Ovechkin

2017
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 2: breaking Wayne Gretzky's all time scoring goal scoring record. By

2018
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,879
Speaker 2: the way, I don't think anyone's gonna touch Gretzki's assist

2019
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 2: or points record for for a long long time. But

2020
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 2: this is so impressive. And then they want to know

2021
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 2: what other record in sports do you want? Would you

2022
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 2: want to see broken? So, Luke, you touched on it earlier.

2023
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 2: I know there's a DC connection, but if even if

2024
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: you separate DC, the fact that Ovechkin did it, I

2025
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 2: think in the same amount. Isn't it the exact same

2026
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: amount of games that Gretzky.

2027
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: Did same amount of games to break it.

2028
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 2: That's crazy because like like Lebron James crushed all these records,

2029
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 2: but he's got so many more games due to his

2030
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 2: longevity than a lot of his contemporaries.

2031
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: Right, so he's got the scoring title or whatever. But

2032
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, he's got to you know, he's been competing

2033
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 1: since I was in college. You know, it's fucking insane.

2034
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I didn't think this was possible. The people

2035
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: in DC had been talking about this for like three

2036
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: or four seasons, and I I was three or four

2037
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 1: seasons ago, I should say. And you know, he was

2038
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 1: like thirty thirty nine now, so he was like thirty

2039
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: five thirty six, and you're like, I don't know, man,

2040
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: it might be slowing down, his hair's getting gray and whatever,

2041
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: but he's had amazing longevity to get to this past.

2042
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: And what was kind of interesting for me is, you know,

2043
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: I grew up on the days with like Peter Bondra

2044
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: and whatnot, like old kind of Capitol's heroes. But I

2045
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 1: moved back to the city permanently in December of four.

2046
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: They drafted him in two thousand and five, they got April,

2047
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: they got the bid for it, and then they drafted

2048
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 1: them later. And so my entire time back like the

2049
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: second kind of big chapter, because I remember I would

2050
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: lived here before and then my parents were divorced, so

2051
01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: I would be constantly coming back, but I didn't live

2052
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 1: here for quite some time. And then I came back

2053
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: and then my entire like last twenty years of this

2054
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,799
Speaker 1: chapter of my life, Ovechkin's been for the Capitals anyway,

2055
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 1: at the center of that experience, and I as good

2056
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 1: as he's been, dude, I just never do I had

2057
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,839
Speaker 1: to live with like the Capitals kind of like failing

2058
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: to make you know enough, like when he's won one

2059
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup, and there's been a bunch of times they

2060
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: bottomed out, and like there was a long time where

2061
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: like the talk of the league was Sidney Crosby, Sidney Crosby,

2062
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: Sidney Crosby, who's very very good obviously, right, I'm not

2063
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 1: shitting on Sidney Crosby. He can play. But for Ovechkin

2064
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: to just kind of keep chipping away at this in

2065
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: the way that he did, dude, it just and even

2066
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: there's a video that came out yesterday of him an

2067
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 1: old interview where they asked him years and years ago,

2068
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: do you think you can break that scoring title? He

2069
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 1: was like, it's impossible, it's and it'll never be done.

2070
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 1: It's impossible, and then he fucking did it.

2071
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 10: Man.

2072
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's amazing to watch, really really quite remarkable.

2073
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 2: Especially because you know Gretzky did some gaudy totals in

2074
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 2: the eighties when goal scoring was on fire, before the

2075
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 2: prevalence of the left wing lock. Look, wow, did I

2076
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 2: just pulled something? Wow? So it Obviously Gretzky had a

2077
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 2: long career, but that's why his points and assists totals

2078
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 2: are crazy. So to compare here, Gretzky is the all

2079
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 2: time points which obviously combines goals and assists leader, with

2080
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 2: two thousand, eight hundred and fifty seven. The second place

2081
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 2: person is Yaarramir Yager, who played deep into his forties,

2082
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 2: with one thousand, nine hundred. So Gretzky has almost one

2083
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 2: thousand more points than the second place person in HL history.

2084
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 2: If you want to know where Vezkin comes in, he's

2085
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 2: eleventh overall with sixteen hundred points, and then particularly with

2086
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 2: the assists, Gretzky has over nineteen hundred assists. The next

2087
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 2: is Ron Francis with twelve hundred.

2088
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, Alvetchkin's a more limited player certainly than Gretzky,

2089
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: but as you can see as a goal scorer, he

2090
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: is fucking awesome.

2091
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 2: They asked you that question, what are the record in sports?

2092
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 2: Would you like to see broken? I bring this up

2093
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 2: the one hundred points from Chamberlain, Well Chamberlain in nineteen

2094
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 2: sixty two. I never thought somebody would get as close

2095
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 2: as even he's eighty one. But you know that game

2096
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,839
Speaker 2: where he scored one hundred, like that, they kept following,

2097
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 2: they kept throwing lobs to him to try to get

2098
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 2: the record. I don't know if you can do that

2099
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 2: an NBA game without changing the competitive nature negatively by

2100
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 2: like gratuitously forcing it in right, or maybe with a

2101
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 2: three pointer if you hit twenty five threes.

2102
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess you could. I don't

2103
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: have a I mean I kind of like it that

2104
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: will still holds that, you know, because he was just

2105
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: fucking everything that moved. I'll say this BC if like

2106
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 1: other records, I would love to see. I mean, we

2107
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 1: haven't seen it since what eighty six Dolphins. When was

2108
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: the last time an NFL team went undefeated?

2109
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 2: Seventy two Dolphins. So again, the nineteen seventy two Dolphins.

2110
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: Seventy two excuse me, seventy two Dolphins where they went undefeated.

2111
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't know why I said eighty six, but the

2112
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 1: seventy two Dolphins and went undefeated. But that was a

2113
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 1: when they had a shorter season. Now they've got longer season,

2114
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 1: So I hover many games it would be at this

2115
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 1: point eighteen plus the playoffs basically, well, seventeen plus the

2116
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: playoffs anyway that I would to see. I'd love to

2117
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: see someone go soup to nuts all the way undefeated,

2118
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: just so we can shove those motherfuckers in Miami up

2119
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 1: a little bit.

2120
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. On that fifty six game

2121
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 2: hitting streak. Somebody will get that eventually in baseball.

2122
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah.

2123
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean even Bonds is seventy three home runs. Eventually,

2124
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna somebody's gonna touch that.

2125
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, they play one hundred and seventy

2126
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: do with these with these fucking what do they call

2127
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: torpedo bats?

2128
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2129
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: Have you seen these things?

2130
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 2: They got to change that, They got to no fuck

2131
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 2: that leave it.

2132
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, dude. Every time someone is like, hey,

2133
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 1: let's make baseball more exciting, you've got dullards who go no, no, no,

2134
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: we need to make it shitty and slow, I'm like, guys,

2135
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 1: that's absolutely not They're.

2136
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 2: Gonna blow away the records with bats like that.

2137
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: It's going to be awesome. Can't wait.

2138
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 2: Oh god, this guy, have Luke Thomas's unbelievable look before

2139
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 2: we get into my feces, do you have any comments

2140
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 2: about the econoor McGregor shit coin failing so miserably?

2141
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: How bad is his motherfucker? Like in terms of his timing,

2142
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 1: could not be worse right, world markets are obviously in

2143
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: free fall, and more to the point, like his star

2144
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:10,560
Speaker 1: power is absolutely collapsed. Man. The question you have to

2145
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: ask yourself is BC, does this make it more likely

2146
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,759
Speaker 1: he returns for a fight. You would have to imagine

2147
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: that it would. But at the same time, dude, chill

2148
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 1: Son and I think is right where it's like Connor

2149
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: comes back. If they put him against anybody good, he's

2150
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: gonna get his ass whooped. Like I don't, I don't

2151
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 1: really know what's next for this guy.

2152
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 2: If Patty beats Chandler, it's got to be Connor Patty

2153
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 2: in the in the UK, it's gotta be it's gotta

2154
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 2: be Why not Chandler because he'll get knocked out by Chandler.

2155
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Oh, and you think Patty is not? Oh? I see,

2156
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: I see it. Oh? Because you want to make it

2157
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: a more competitive fight.

2158
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 2: Yes, And I want to give Patty the chance to

2159
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 2: get that huge star rub. What's Chandler going to benefit

2160
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 2: from the rub of beat him?

2161
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Bless he's the place. He's almost forty

2162
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: like who cares.

2163
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 2: Right, And I think even if you give him Iliah

2164
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 2: Connor would like it, would give him the rub. But

2165
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a competitive matchup.

2166
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: I think Ilia would absolutely stretch him.

2167
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. All right, it's time to

2168
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 2: pick the colonels out of my feces. I scoured the

2169
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 2: internet for the highs and lows, the good, the bad,

2170
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 2: the ugly, in the in between, in the worlds of

2171
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 2: combat sports and beyond, to try to see if Luke

2172
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 2: Thomas can lose his shit. This is called h y

2173
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 2: sts Luke. BKFC had a double header in Dubai over

2174
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,839
Speaker 2: two days on this weekend, and it gave Connor McGregor

2175
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 2: speaking of the chance to wild out. Let's watch this

2176
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 2: chick way in that ended in violence and check out

2177
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 2: the phoner that Connor McGregor brought to those shorts.

2178
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 1: Tell that for the inaugural BKFC Women's World Featherweight.

2179
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 6: Hiti and Chill and uh ranked In and Jessica war.

2180
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:54,879
Speaker 7: All right, let me get a word first, Jessica.

2181
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 2: Look, imagine a promoter and another big combat sport showing

2182
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 2: up in like t running shorts, just you know, erect

2183
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 2: his ship after two chicks brawled.

2184
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 1: And on the scale SPEKFC, dude, I don't you know?

2185
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:08,759
Speaker 1: All right?

2186
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 2: Well, after Connor tried to mack these two ladies in

2187
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 2: the lobby and it looked like he went, oh for two,

2188
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 2: let's listen.

2189
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: In is there sound there was supposed to be, but.

2190
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 2: Uh, just so you know, Connor's yelling I'm from an

2191
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 2: island in Ireland. I'm from an island in Ireland, and

2192
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 2: these chicks are like, yeah, whatever, guy, get away from me.

2193
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: It was weird.

2194
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: It was really weird. Dublin is an is an island.

2195
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 2: Dude, you got I can't explain this man, Okay, but

2196
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: here's Connor also at the club after the first night

2197
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 2: of events. What do you think about that, Luke? I mean,

2198
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 2: it's is it sad or comical? Right now?

2199
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 1: Where are you at on this? I don't have great

2200
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: sympathy for him, but it is kind of sad, you know.

2201
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go, there we go.

2202
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 1: It's like, here's the thing. I don't mind the guy

2203
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 1: partying or or whatever. Like it's his life, you know.

2204
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: But to me, it's like the amount of partying seems overwhelming,

2205
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 1: and the fact that he's getting in trouble with the

2206
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 1: law on top of it kind of tells you it's

2207
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: probably part of a broader set of things he's doing

2208
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 1: to himself that are destructive, you know. And I think

2209
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 1: that's the part where you're just like, god, damn man,

2210
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:25,680
Speaker 1: like this, the dude who won, I'm telling you, the

2211
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,759
Speaker 1: dude who won at UFC two o five is gone.

2212
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, a fan apparently tried to

2213
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 2: attack Connor inside the arena after the first BKFC event

2214
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 2: in Dubai. Let's watch this. It's going to be on

2215
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 2: the left of Connor as he's meeting the fans and

2216
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 2: signing autographs. Did you see this piece of business? Luke?

2217
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: Let's see, I did not see this, and.

2218
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 2: The security team gives it to the fan, as we'll

2219
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 2: see in the end here. So it's the guy right

2220
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 2: there in the white shirt, I believe, No, that guy

2221
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 2: in the black shirt.

2222
01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah look, oh yeah, oh dude, they fuck him up, proper.

2223
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 2: Man.

2224
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get stomped out trying some shit

2225
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: like that.

2226
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, he gotta looks like he got a drink

2227
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 2: port on the back of his jacket too. But watch

2228
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 2: this guy's face coming up here.

2229
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: Which one is it?

2230
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 2: You won't be able to miss it shortly. If we

2231
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 2: get there, we might get there.

2232
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: We'll get there. Hang on, he's trying to play peacemaker here.

2233
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 1: He got some some gordita in the ring there. Oh yeah,

2234
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, oh they got good.

2235
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 2: They got him good. Uh Luke, do you know, speaking

2236
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: of future president Conor McGregor of Ireland fame, there are

2237
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,799
Speaker 2: people out there who believe he can win the election.

2238
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 2: Do you know this?

2239
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about the Irish system to say confidently,

2240
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 1: but from what I've heard, it seems like a long shot.

2241
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 2: Well let's hear there's somebody that believes to fight and

2242
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:53,799
Speaker 2: it's running for president of Ireland.

2243
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 1: I like, everyone's like, you don't have a chance.

2244
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 11: You know what they're doing, Like, buddy, did you not

2245
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 11: learn from the Trump You don't have to have a

2246
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,600
Speaker 11: background in politics these days. Politics are not what you

2247
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 11: grew up with as a kid. It's not your dad's politics.

2248
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 11: Usually the most famous guy wins, Yeah, but he has

2249
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 11: this dark history. Did you not learn from Trump. He

2250
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 11: has some shit in his background too. It doesn't matter,

2251
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 11: It doesn't matter. He just want to change. You're not

2252
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 11: voting for him to marry your daughter. You just voting

2253
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 11: on something different. That's all it is. No one gives

2254
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 11: a fuck, and they're gonna run on that trying to

2255
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 11: smear his name.

2256
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 2: None of that works, Luke, that's an interesting take.

2257
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,640
Speaker 1: He went on to say that we're doing skits and

2258
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: bits here.

2259
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 2: No, he went on to say that he doesn't know

2260
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 2: a lot about Ireland, but he believes Connor could wit it,

2261
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 2: can win it. Let's go to the Ireland tabloids. They

2262
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 2: did a poll.

2263
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't think it.

2264
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 2: Felt that.

2265
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: There was a report from I think Sky News and

2266
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: there was actually a couple of ways that he could

2267
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 1: get nominated, and one of which is that enough members

2268
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 1: of Parliament have to essentially agree to nominate them. And

2269
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: they there's two hundred and thirty four. They asked all

2270
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty four. Now, they didn't get a

2271
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: response at all, one way or the other from one

2272
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: hundred of them. But of the one hundred and thirty

2273
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: four who did respond, every single one of them said

2274
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: they would not support it every single one.

2275
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 2: So that poll was an update from twenty twenty three

2276
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 2: where eighty nine percent said they would not support and

2277
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 2: now that's gone up to ninety following the civil rape trial.

2278
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 2: So interesting stuff there.

2279
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 1: I like the attribution wasn't actually his show, but it

2280
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 1: was the Reddit.

2281
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 2: Hey wherever we have, let's go to regional mma, Luke,

2282
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 2: where what anything can happen?

2283
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: Anything? Brother?

2284
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 2: That was a all right? Check out this muy Thai fight, Luke.

2285
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:45,679
Speaker 2: Is this legal?

2286
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 11: Bah?

2287
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 1: This is his UFC these days. Kick him in the balls,

2288
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 1: kick him in the face each shit. There you go

2289
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 1: there it is Tell you, bro, you fight regional MMA

2290
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: or even regional kickboxing. You're taking your life into your hands, brother,

2291
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 1: make no mistake about it.

2292
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 2: The following clip is the wildest sixty seconds you'll see

2293
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 2: in regional MMA. Check out this sequence, right.

2294
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 1: Let's see okay, Oh he's just unloading. Guy's covering up,

2295
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: he's moving, he's moving. Oh he's getting hit. Oh okay,

2296
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 1: let's see how he's going. He's gonna get knocked out,

2297
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:20,679
Speaker 1: isn't he the guy punching?

2298
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:22,759
Speaker 2: It's wild, it gets wilder.

2299
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 1: He's doing he's doing those overhand, like the standing hammer fists.

2300
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: That's always a bad sign.

2301
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the tide's about to turn McGregor diaz one

2302
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 2: style here, Luke.

2303
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: Oh, man, dude, this guy's dr all all spinning, back

2304
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: fist okay, all right, or back elbow excuse me, punch

2305
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 1: punch okay, all right, all right, good hey, he's coming back.

2306
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: Let's see.

2307
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,080
Speaker 2: This means the best. It's wild.

2308
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 1: You know this is regional. Mma, dude, this will so

2309
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 1: now the guy who is getting delt is dealing.

2310
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:06,520
Speaker 2: Ah, Luke would say, good lord, dude, you know wow?

2311
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 2: All right, hey, let's go to the regional karate scene. Luke,

2312
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 2: have you seen a ko like this before?

2313
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,600
Speaker 1: But Bob, oh he did. He turned him into a

2314
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: heroin addict on the on on the alphabet city.

2315
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 2: You damn right he did.

2316
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: Wow, dol. They send him face first to the canvas.

2317
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: That's when you know it's bad.

2318
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 2: Well, not all regional craziness happens in a cage, Luke.

2319
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 2: Let's go to Latin American baseball.

2320
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,679
Speaker 1: Oh, he's started with the bat. Oh, good lord, half

2321
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 1: aways swung it. Where is this Dominican?

2322
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. It looks like it's uh, could be

2323
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,600
Speaker 2: could be Mexico, I'm not really you know that that

2324
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 2: well in on it?

2325
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: But wow, that's my VP versus VCL. I don't know

2326
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: who that is.

2327
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 2: That's some violent ish right there. All right, luke, this

2328
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 2: is probably the worst day in this truck driver's life. Right.

2329
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Oh shit, oh yo, yo, show that one again, Show

2330
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 1: that one again. Yo. Optimus Prime was like, get the

2331
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: fuck out of my car, bitch.

2332
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 2: All right, it's time for your falls of the week.

2333
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 2: Let's check in on this rent a cop.

2334
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 3: You fucking.

2335
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh, let's keep it going. They tell you not to

2336
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 2: play with fire kids. Look, you ever do stuff like

2337
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 2: this as a teenager?

2338
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I've done all that stupid shit. What

2339
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 1: does my guy here do fall in it? No? All right?

2340
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 1: All right, oh yeah yeah, why don't you fall in that?

2341
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 1: Fat guy?

2342
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: But you stop drop and roll? All right, let's check

2343
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 2: it out. Some drunk chicks, they always fall for us.

2344
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 1: A giant Connects four bit. I played this one at

2345
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 1: this local bar. I go to oh, oh, you know what,

2346
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 1: girl's falling over at the bar. I've never seen that before.

2347
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no, let's go to the airport. You I

2348
01:52:58,560 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen this before.

2349
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:05,720
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, get why don't we fire more

2350
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: airlines personnel because I'm sure we got the best and

2351
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 1: brighters right there right now.

2352
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful climbing trees too. Let's see this gentleman.

2353
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 1: Is he gonna jump from this? Yeah? Yep, you fucking

2354
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: bitch ass.

2355
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 13: Oh lord, oh boy, Wow, these guys fall from these

2356
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 13: fucking heights and it looks like a fucking E c

2357
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 13: W match, you know what I mean?

2358
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,560
Speaker 2: Looks like New Jack and Vic Grimes jumping off the

2359
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 2: top of a scaffolding. Yeah.

2360
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 1: Wow, paralyzed and you're like, was it worth it? I

2361
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: don't think that it was, you.

2362
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 2: Know, not really not really all right, Luke, this kid

2363
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 2: is gonna have a future. Check this out. Wow, it's

2364
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 2: gonna be a dark future, though, Luke.

2365
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: Is that sugar it is? Yo? That kid's mom is

2366
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 1: gonna have what dude? Little man? Little man was like,

2367
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 1: eat shit, I'm about to get high as fuck off

2368
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 1: the sugar.

2369
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 2: Luke, you love two things on this show, scorpions and

2370
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 2: Jim fails. Let's put them together.

2371
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 1: I believe I can fly day. He agrees gonna swing right?

2372
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:16,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2373
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh shit, here we go.

2374
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 2: Oh wow. I don't know if he lived Luke, we

2375
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 2: may have to add that to the circus performer with

2376
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 2: the snake.

2377
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: Somebody hit the lunk alarm at Planet Fitness. He had

2378
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: a boo boo.

2379
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 2: Luke, I've been planning ideas for Twoki's next birthday party.

2380
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 2: Give me a thumbs up er thumbs down on this one.

2381
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: All right, it was a human shit? What is this? Dude?

2382
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: What the fuck? What ai shit is this?

2383
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 2: I think it was real, Luke.

2384
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 1: Wow, traumatize these children with the fight.

2385
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: So I think, so, Wow, Luke, let's look back on

2386
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 2: greatest days in Magic Johnson history.

2387
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 1: You think that was the day, Luke? Well, you know,

2388
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: could you say it was a bad day? You could

2389
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 1: say it was a mixed bag?

2390
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 2: You know, it could have been that day though. All right,

2391
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 2: let's get it.

2392
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems like a possibility.

2393
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 2: Speaking of magic, it's time to head to the hard

2394
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 2: word for some march madness. So you know these halftime

2395
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 2: spectacles where they bring civilians in and you can make

2396
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: a couple of shots, okay, to win money.

2397
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why he's not in the Marine Corps.

2398
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:32,919
Speaker 2: Just a bit outside.

2399
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like, how good are the athletes in the

2400
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 1: arm services? And I'm like it depends entirely on their mos.

2401
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and whether they have a train ticket for

2402
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: Osbourne or not. Also, Luke, check out this youth hoops

2403
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 2: fight between Just watch it. So there's a hard fall

2404
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 2: right there.

2405
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: All in the corner. What the yo.

2406
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 2: Mom comes out, but Dad's gonna come out in a second.

2407
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 2: Get ready for this.

2408
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 1: Him.

2409
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 2: Damn he got jacked up there. That is wild and Luke, uh,

2410
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 2: you know when you get hot an NBA jam, you

2411
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 2: are on fire. Check out these Darwin Award winners. Oh

2412
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 2: he made it.

2413
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean, can we just arrest these guys? Can we

2414
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 1: send them to Bouque's Dungeon and El Salvador? Please?

2415
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 2: All right, Tom for your haircuts of the week, Luke,

2416
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 2: I think they call this one the Pig. I'm not

2417
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: really sure. I mean, there's better things you can be

2418
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 2: doing with your time than this right now?

2419
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 1: No I wear that? How are you kidding?

2420
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 2: All right?

2421
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 1: Would the question is would you would you be see?

2422
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 1: Would you banger? That's that's what that's really the.

2423
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you on our Patreon after show. Let's go

2424
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 2: to this next guy. We can call him the Golden Boy.

2425
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm actually into this, Luke. It's a little Cisco.

2426
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 1: Esque rit Yeah, you know what, My man is quite

2427
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: literally shining.

2428
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, clit quite Look a look.

2429
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 1: At that taper. That tape sick too.

2430
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: I like that. Uh finally, Luke. Some people call this art,

2431
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 2: other people call it offensive. What is your what are

2432
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 2: your thoughts?

2433
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:14,160
Speaker 1: Oh? My fucking god, enough of that.

2434
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go to the Brazilian side.

2435
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 1: Do you wonder why we get nine to eleven memes

2436
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 1: that we can't show from our from our viewers.

2437
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna put a I'm gonna put an end

2438
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 2: to it right now. Look that's it. Okay, no more,

2439
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 2: no more on there. Over to the next clip.

2440
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: What do we got here?

2441
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 2: Brazilian soccer tunnel? Maybe we can rethink the design, Luke.

2442
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't have to come out of a vagina.

2443
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: That probably was the bad idea, Luke.

2444
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 2: Kids say and do the darnedest things. Let's check out

2445
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 2: this clip.

2446
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:43,839
Speaker 14: I don't really understand those stickers that say baby on board,

2447
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 14: because what is this supposed to do? What's the point

2448
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 14: Because like, the only thing that I can think of

2449
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 14: when I see that is the ladies driving must have

2450
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 14: some milk bags on her, you know what I mean?

2451
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:58,240
Speaker 2: Look is that Jake fun Amsterdam.

2452
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 1: By the way, that looks like somebody who would work

2453
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 1: on this show.

2454
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's all right. I meant to say. This

2455
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 2: is the clip where kids do the darkness things.

2456
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we're dancing. We're dancing.

2457
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 2: Is that New Orleans where it looks like Yeah, that

2458
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 2: looked like it. All right, let's go over to the

2459
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 2: toy horse.

2460
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I did.

2461
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 2: Look, they have weight limits on those.

2462
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 1: First. I noticed as soon as Big Bertha got on

2463
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 1: that and the baby was sitting behind her where this

2464
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 1: was going.

2465
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 2: And finally, Luke, you can find influencers for everything. Look,

2466
01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm not handy with my car. I have no idea

2467
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 2: how to change my own oil, but that's why I

2468
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 2: follow people like this. Hi, my name is Stacy, and

2469
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 2: today I'm gonna show you how to change an oil.

2470
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 1: So first, I'm actually not Stacy, and I don't know

2471
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 1: how to fucking change an oil.

2472
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 3: But for seven eighty nine a month, you can see.

2473
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 2: My that's the shit of the week. I hope you

2474
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 2: saw it.

2475
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 1: Do we happen to have her contact information? I have

2476
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: follow up questions that can only be answered one particular way.

2477
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 2: Well, I spit all over the microphone. Hey, today's episode

2478
01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 2: of Morning Combat has been brought to you by Draft

2479
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 2: Kings and presented by Draft Kings where the crowd.

2480
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 1: The worst part is like, if she had a kid,

2481
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: she off the money she's making for OnlyFans, she'd be

2482
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 1: able to put them through college, no problem. Whereas you

2483
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 1: and I have to fucking sweat it out, you know

2484
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, living out here, we.

2485
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 2: Have to show her clips to make money. It's unbelievable,

2486
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,400
Speaker 2: right yeah, basically, all right, Luke, that's the show for

2487
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 2: the week. I think we gave him a great effort,

2488
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:46,320
Speaker 2: but it's time to go home.

2489
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: Now, Yes it is. I mean, listen, you know we

2490
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 1: have to work with Emmitt versus Murphy as our anchor.

2491
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, what can you do with that? But hey,

2492
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:56,879
Speaker 1: Wednesday got a totally different ball game going on Wednesday

2493
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 1: live at eleven am in the East. You're a boy

2494
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: BC lt Will jay M. I guess we can call

2495
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 1: him an MK. All together, they're going to get you

2496
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:10,360
Speaker 1: ready for the best card in quite some time. USC

2497
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 1: three fourteen.

2498
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess what we're not going to do on

2499
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 2: Wednesday complain. We're just gonna drink Cuervo and have a

2500
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 2: great time, so check us out eleven am Eastern. Thank

2501
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 2: you for supporting the show, Long Island, Luke, and you

2502
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 2: say goodbye to the people at all.

2503
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 1: Goodbye people.

2504
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 3: Look out for my bet breakdown coming out this today

2505
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,120
Speaker 3: actually UFC three fourteen, looking forward to that.

2506
02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 1: It is and Wednesday.

2507
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 3: Oh and I'm doing No Bets Barred with Jed this

2508
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 3: week for MMA Fighting, so tune into that.

2509
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're launching his career. He's going to take over

2510
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 1: and surpass USBC probably.

2511
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 2: And also look, I saw that you're on Submission radio

2512
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 2: breaking down that card as well, so shout out to

2513
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 2: Dennis there as well. I am, I am all right

2514
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 2: for Luke, and Luke at your boy BC. Take care

2515
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 2: of yourselves. We will see you on Wednesday. Don't miss it.

2516
02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 2: Three fourteen's coming, and so will we. We're out here.