WEBVTT - Peacemaker 206: Ignorance Is Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Warning.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's episode contains spoilers for the shock sixth episode of

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<v Speaker 2>season two of Peacemaker. Hello, Hey, it is Jas Sconcepcio,

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Rosie Night and welcome back to x Ravision the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast Wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming over by our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We're bringing you three episodes a week, Gus.

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<v Speaker 3>Today we are going to be breaking down that Peacemaker

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<v Speaker 3>season two episode six, Shoka Ignorance is Chris, perfectly named

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<v Speaker 3>episode perfect name. Sadly, our Peacemaker correspondent super producer Ian

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<v Speaker 3>will not be here, so it just me and Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was right.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to give him some he was right time

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, what a crazy, crazy, crazy episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let's dive into it. Okay. Peacemaker season two,

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<v Speaker 2>episode six, Ignorance is Chris. We open. In the Perfect Universe,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole family plus Hardcourt are at like a cracker

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<v Speaker 2>barrel perfect yeah, perfect Dad is They're covered in apparently

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<v Speaker 2>like kaiju guts. Dad is toasting Chris. They're having a

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<v Speaker 2>grand old time. Kids are coming up saying can I

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<v Speaker 2>get a picture with you? Blue Dragon? It's perfect, It's

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<v Speaker 2>too perfect perfect. Meanwhile, in the other universe, in our universe,

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<v Speaker 2>the eleven Street Kids go to Vig's mom's house too,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where they're going to reopen the portal in

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<v Speaker 2>the basement's beautiful house, nice home. Argus has no idea

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<v Speaker 2>who Vig is, so this is perfect. Adrian's mom seems

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<v Speaker 2>very very nice, but like too nosy, very very supportive,

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<v Speaker 2>but like way too involved in her way to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>He does still live at home, so what are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do? He is so mean to her all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but she takes it all in stride, and he takes

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<v Speaker 2>them down to his secret room with the multiple key

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<v Speaker 2>locks down there, and Vich's mom is talking the whole

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<v Speaker 2>time about his friends, about her son's friends, and she

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<v Speaker 2>knows them all how he talks about them, and apparently

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<v Speaker 2>Vig told mom that Harcourt hardcore. Originally she says was

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<v Speaker 2>his girlfriend, but they broke up and Vich is mortified

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<v Speaker 2>at this, and Harcourt is like kind of furious but

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<v Speaker 2>just merely smoldering, and she goes away, and Vich's like,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom has dementia, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely no will believes scattered bals like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that they go in the room and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the Sinaloa cartels, like storage.

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<v Speaker 1>For yeah, he's living in scafface fantasis.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like Vich has obviously been killing criminals for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, effectively mass murdering in a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know Hawkeye in End Game, And he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff he's been doing, and he's been taking

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff there's I guess to his credit, he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been doing it. He does it only for the love

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<v Speaker 2>of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like he just keeps all this money.

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<v Speaker 2>He just keeps the stuff. He's not like out there

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<v Speaker 2>like flipping the cash or the bags of fentanyl and coke.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's definitely not selling the drugs at least, he's

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<v Speaker 3>just keeping them in these Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just got this storage from filled with drugs and money.

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<v Speaker 2>And the eleven streeters, who many of whom have been

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<v Speaker 2>desperate for money by the way, you know, like Hardcourt

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<v Speaker 2>is must be thinking, hold on, I almost took a

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<v Speaker 2>job at the drug store.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we like Ads is taking like gigs where

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<v Speaker 3>people think she is maybe a sexuast come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so as Vig is like has his back

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<v Speaker 2>turned to like put on his uniform, they're like stuffing

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<v Speaker 2>their pockets, which like to fair, I honestly, he would

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<v Speaker 2>want them to have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably anyway, he would, he'd give.

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<v Speaker 2>It to them if they said it in the right Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>they set up the portal and his beanie baby closet door,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the burst of energy happens, and everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>covered in a thin mist of hopefully cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hope, probably no, cokay't the.

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<v Speaker 2>Best Probably the best outcome is that it's cocaine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we find out later that it is cocaine.

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<v Speaker 2>They go into the portal and they're in there. It's amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they can't believe hardcourts, like I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>Chris was telling the truth, Like why was he keeping

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<v Speaker 2>this to himself? Didn't he think this was crazy? And

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<v Speaker 2>out of Bio is like, well, he grew up with this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like normal to him. And so now they're

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<v Speaker 2>wandering around looking for that rack of peacemaker helmets that

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<v Speaker 2>will tell them which door to go to at Argus Seniors,

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<v Speaker 2>fuming Rosie, He's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh stressed, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>So mad, so so mad. I'm surprised Bordeau isn't in

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<v Speaker 2>there giving a shoulder rub to help.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, right, I'm like, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>B Fleury comes in and is like, so, in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to Chris walking out the door, we don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>the other eleventh Street associates.

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<v Speaker 1>Are right now?

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<v Speaker 2>And uh oh yeah, Judo Master also got so sorry

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Yeah, where is by the way? Well, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I think, thinking about where we're going now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quite concerned about continuing.

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<v Speaker 1>Health and life of the Judas.

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<v Speaker 2>So Senior is like, listen, the world depends on us

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<v Speaker 2>finding Peacemaker.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Just obsessed, yeah, stop it, but like you know, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Senior gets an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>As Flurry hangs up the phone, he gets on the

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<v Speaker 2>horn with Jessica and he says and he calls up

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, listen, I want you to call bell

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<v Speaker 2>Reeve because there's someone I need to talk to you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Who could that be?

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<v Speaker 1>We found out later.

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<v Speaker 2>Finds the rack of peace Maker helmets, Vidge knows the

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<v Speaker 2>door code. They go in, so now it's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>do we do? How do we find it? Well, Vig

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<v Speaker 2>is speaking about obsession, obsessed with finding this version of

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<v Speaker 2>himself in this world. It's true, and they all go

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<v Speaker 2>to Chris's bedroom to kind of scope it out. And

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<v Speaker 2>Hardcourt sees the picture of alternate Chris and alternate Harcourt

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh my god, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Triumph walks in, so Harcourt quick thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ad and Economists and the rest kind of hide in

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<v Speaker 2>different rooms with Harcourt like closing a closet door on them,

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<v Speaker 2>and Captain Triumph's like, Kirk Card, what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>And She's like, oh, I came to pick up this

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<v Speaker 2>snow globe, like obviously, yeah, Chris wanted me to have it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really weird reason and Captain Triumph is like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well I'm heading back past Argus if you need a run.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like okay, yeah, sure, and this, you know, give

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<v Speaker 2>allows her to draw Captain Triumph away from the team

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<v Speaker 2>and meanwhile, so they leave an Economists meanwhile, is like

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<v Speaker 2>getting sick thinking the whole idea of like another dimension

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<v Speaker 2>with yeah versions.

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<v Speaker 1>Of He's the only one who understands.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's making him literally physically sick. He's gonna throw up. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>Vich is like, yeah, but like what do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I gotta find me, Like it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy. I wonder if he like likes the same

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<v Speaker 2>stuff I do, and so like vij like fully wants

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<v Speaker 2>to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know he's believing in it.

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<v Speaker 2>With loves it, and like there's no way to keep

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<v Speaker 2>him there, Like he justs and there's absolutely no way

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<v Speaker 2>that there's gonna they're gonna be able to keep you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in one place. He goes off, We're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 2>a quick cat break and will be right, and we're rack.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris and alternate Hardcourt are cuddling post sex and let

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<v Speaker 2>me just stop here and say oooo, this is sexual as.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sexual assault. It is because she doesn't know she's

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<v Speaker 1>having sex.

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<v Speaker 2>With Yeah, I mean, it's the face off. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>solve problem. I won't belabor it, but it is talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is a creepy Yeah, that is.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened, and unsurprising I think that Chris doesn't see

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<v Speaker 2>it that way and doesn't understand that that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what he did. Meanwhile, real Harcourt and Keith

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<v Speaker 2>are you know, driving through the streets and Harcourt is

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<v Speaker 2>like looking at it and noticing something weird. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something is off. And she's also learning like

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<v Speaker 2>weird facts about this world that like the cult eighties

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<v Speaker 2>goth metal like band Helloween is apparently considered the first

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<v Speaker 2>or second most important group of all time. That's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Mick Jagger is the lead singer of the Beatles. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's another one anyway. Strange differences, right, Yeah, lots

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<v Speaker 2>of weird stuff going on, and Chris with Harcourt seems

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<v Speaker 2>to feel it too, may although maybe he's feeling like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>did I do Did I do a bad?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah. Maybe he's feeling a little bit like like.

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<v Speaker 2>What hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I.

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<v Speaker 3>With me?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>At Argus, the security dog barks at Hardcourt because she

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<v Speaker 2>is covered in cocaine, so they take her to an

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<v Speaker 2>interrogation room. Chris see real. Chris sees this and is like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, that's real Hardcourt VIDG. Meanwhile, it goes to

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<v Speaker 2>his mom's house. His dad is there, not gay apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>and the house is almost identical with small small changes

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<v Speaker 2>that delight Vige. His keys work in his secret room,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he goes in there, it's neater, with less

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<v Speaker 2>cocaine and stuff, less drugs, And we're gonna about about

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<v Speaker 2>to fight out why. So he goes in there and

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<v Speaker 2>he introduces himself to his other self and they have

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<v Speaker 2>the same person.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this. This was so funny too.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to do the Spider Man meme and they

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<v Speaker 3>were so happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this. They let Adrian have his fun before

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Learn the truth about the world, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, and and Economist are like, what do we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Should we find eagerly like they find him. He's raiding

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<v Speaker 2>the fridge, He's made a huge mess. Flag at Bell

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<v Speaker 2>Reeve is visiting Lex.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA Okay, I know, I don't know if we guessed Lex.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he was in our conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought this was extremely cool, and I thought that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of Lex is the same character you see in Superman, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>but there is a coldness and a kind of extra

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<v Speaker 3>layer of threat here that I think fits the tone

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<v Speaker 3>of the show really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus two like this is a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting and important plot point, simply because we know that

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<v Speaker 3>Lex is going to be teaming up with Superman and

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<v Speaker 3>Man of Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a spoiler. James Gunn has talked about it.

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<v Speaker 3>This scene was actually filmed during the filming of Superman,

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<v Speaker 3>so the once again the James gun connectivity is really

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<v Speaker 3>delivering here, and I think, like for me, this just

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<v Speaker 3>felt like a whoa moment, even though we knew.

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<v Speaker 1>It was coming. It was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd actually seen a lot of people who were theorizing

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<v Speaker 3>that Idris Elba would be back, which I would love.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know.

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<v Speaker 3>I love his version of Bloodshire, great character, like incredible

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<v Speaker 3>fun times.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love that they went for Lex. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it works. And also we need to know how.

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<v Speaker 3>Lex is gonna get out of Bell Reeve to help

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<v Speaker 3>Superman because they are going to team up in of.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow, so I think this begins to set that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree with everything you said. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect decision. It advances both the story and the show

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<v Speaker 2>and the wider gunnaverse story. And it's not like a

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<v Speaker 2>side show like an alternate Superman or an alternate Batman

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's it actually moves the story and yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like this is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great. So Senior makes his offer, which is like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in jail for two hundred and fifty plus years,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and sixty five years. I think, yeah, fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't get you, I can't get you free, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can get you in a prison without meta humans,

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<v Speaker 2>which I know you hate them, and you're having to

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<v Speaker 2>be in here with like Dragon Man and shit, it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like you literally like you're in prison for trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get rid of matta humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is not gonna go well for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like you're there with King Shark and like

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<v Speaker 2>Dragon Man, like the worst, weirdest Yeah, like the humans

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<v Speaker 2>these are not the human pot of matt human.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very like.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not even fun to talk to exactly. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I need from you, Senior says, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to find a specific portal built by Peacemaker. Lex initially

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't give a ship about peace because he's like, I

0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.480
<v Speaker 2>don't care who cares? Who cares? Like they're irrelevant, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's the many humans I care about, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about like guys that dress up in costumes and

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<v Speaker 2>shoot other guys. Yeah it's like so what yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>but but Senior is like, listen, it's a multi dimensional portal,

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<v Speaker 2>which obviously that's why I'm here, like you know about those?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah? How do you know about those?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And and you're really smart? So how how do

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<v Speaker 2>I attract this thing? How do I find it?

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<v Speaker 1>Lexus?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I could build a scanner and and and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get me out, You get me to a regular

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<v Speaker 2>human prison. Fine. In the Perfect Universe, Chris goes to

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<v Speaker 2>see Hardcourt in the interrogation room, Real Chris, Real Hardcourt,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, what the fuck are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>And they argue. She's like, I saved your life at

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<v Speaker 2>the ambush like Bordeaux was the cyborg was gonna kill you,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I saved your life and you can't even

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<v Speaker 2>say thank you. And she explains like why she's covered

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<v Speaker 2>in coke and explains that all the eleven Streeters are

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<v Speaker 2>here to save him because he doesn't belong here in

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<v Speaker 2>this universe. And Chris, meanwhile, is like laser focused on

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<v Speaker 2>the boat. What happened on the boat?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? This man just get over on the boat.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like fucking wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you like doesn't didn't that mean anything to you?

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<v Speaker 2>And like what is it? Because of Rick flag?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what was your thing about the reflection? Harcord's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>am I proud of the Rick flag junior thing?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but it happened and it didn't really mean anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And Chris is like, well, listen, I love you, and

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<v Speaker 2>Hardcourt is like, obviously, I know that. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to know what her feelings are, and her feelings

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<v Speaker 2>are basically that she doesn't feel worthy of love or

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<v Speaker 2>respect or positive feelings towards what she feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of shit for various reasons, and that's why she

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<v Speaker 2>goes and does.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy self sabota stuff. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so she basically is like, listen, so what

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<v Speaker 2>is it going to be? And there's a great point

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<v Speaker 2>from her, So what's is? So you're telling me like,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll stay here unless I tell you I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>like exactly, and this is I love that that was

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<v Speaker 2>said me too, because I think that I think again,

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<v Speaker 2>I do wonder if James Gunn's getting himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Into a bit of a situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I do feel like Chris is not somebody you

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<v Speaker 3>want to continue following after this season. Again, like they

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<v Speaker 3>did a good job redeeming him slightly off to the

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Flagg junior stuff, but I do feel like the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that he slept with old universe Hardcourt, the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he's now essentially holding Prime Hardcourt hostage.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that she sees that. Yeah, I'm I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Interested to see where it goes, because again, this show

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<v Speaker 3>is just really not afraid to show the bad side

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<v Speaker 3>of heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that as well. And I thought that, Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a very toxic These are two toxic people

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<v Speaker 2>that you probably could argue being together would only amplify

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<v Speaker 2>the toxicness. I agree, But again, I think like the

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<v Speaker 2>central thesis is about redemption, and that part of it

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<v Speaker 2>I I like, like, I like the idea of.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh me too, can believe?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, can you believe in a person even if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in themselves? And again, I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 2>Harcourt pointed out, So you're basically giving me this bullshit ultimatum, Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>She she basically begs him to come home without ye

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.639
<v Speaker 2>tell me you love me demand, which I really respected

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<v Speaker 2>from her, and Chris says, listen, I can't desert my

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<v Speaker 2>alternate brother, alternate father, alternate heart. Meanwhile, also I'm fooling Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So the guard comes in before they can really resolve

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation, and basically says like, you're you're tested negative

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<v Speaker 2>for drugs. You can go into August now. Meanwhile, Senior,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the interrogation room with Lex, tells Bordo that Lex

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<v Speaker 2>agreed to it, and Lex is going to help us.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in Perfect Universe's Uh Vigilante House, the Vigils are

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<v Speaker 2>best friends. They're instantly like everything is identical, Rosie. They

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<v Speaker 2>love every They love animals in the same way, they

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<v Speaker 2>love like murder in the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, the memes in the same way. Like they know

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<v Speaker 1>this is made meant to be. I love this for them.

0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I love this from They have all these little weird

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<v Speaker 2>things too, like a little weird piccadillos that are exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the same except except important. Why is there no drugs

0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and guns here? Because this vig is not out there

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<v Speaker 2>killing street criminals. He's leading street militia criminals in a

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<v Speaker 2>mission to take down the Peacemaker who he hates that

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<v Speaker 2>y And meanwhile, vige our Vidge is like, oh, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's my best friend. Maybe yeah, So obviously this is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be it. This is gonna be an issue. Back

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<v Speaker 2>at the house, Ad asks economists she's feeling she's getting

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<v Speaker 2>a little stir crazy. She's like, you want to go

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<v Speaker 2>for a walk just around the block.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, I got to clean up. I gotta

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 2>finish cleaning up Eagerly's mess. So she goes alone and

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 2>immediately I'm like, fuck, Ian, it's gonna be right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we know, Okay, we need to give super producer

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<v Speaker 3>Ian this shout out because we recorded these episodes were

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.199
<v Speaker 3>when we had place I heard it, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>the first place we heard it was him. By the

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<v Speaker 3>time our episode had come out, it definitely other places

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<v Speaker 3>had it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta tell you, he noticed.

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<v Speaker 3>That ship straight away, and I want to say I

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<v Speaker 3>want to give him a big shout out. And I

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<v Speaker 3>also want to give James Gunner shout out because actually,

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<v Speaker 3>so often in Superhero TV and superhero movies there are

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<v Speaker 3>just loads of white people and you don't even consider it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think he did a really good job playing

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<v Speaker 3>into the fact that most of the audience wouldn't notice it,

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.960
<v Speaker 3>and he didn't, but Ian did. And yeah, as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as Ads leads the house, you start to realize that

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<v Speaker 3>not only is this a racist place, but like there

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<v Speaker 3>might just not be any people of.

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Color, like wherever they are all killed. They might be

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<v Speaker 1>all killed because this the responses are insane.

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:22.080
<v Speaker 2>They might be in the their version of a nice jail.

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like phantom zone or something that.

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<v Speaker 2>They like it very very bad. So you know she's

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<v Speaker 2>getting looks immediately from people. And then Blue Dragon happens

0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:40.120
<v Speaker 2>to be. Several things happen at once. Blue Dragon comes

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<v Speaker 2>home and Economist has to hide all to her court

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 2>goes comes into work and is we realize she's about

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<v Speaker 2>to see herself while Harcourt is up on the floor saying, hey, Chris,

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.680
<v Speaker 2>don't you notice how like everyone is very very white

0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.679
<v Speaker 2>up here? And Chris is like, what good for her?

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:02.440
<v Speaker 1>She's the first like thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's like everywhere I go, I don't see any

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 2>people of color, like at all. Captain Triumph is driving by,

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 2>sees that a bio and is like it's a black.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep and the whole now oh fuck, like oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Neighborhood is like coming streaming out of their homes. Chase

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<v Speaker 2>out of bio down the.

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<v Speaker 3>Street, he says, And I believe he says something like

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<v Speaker 3>he's like one go out, one got that makes us

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<v Speaker 3>know that lets us know there is very clearly some

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:36.919
<v Speaker 3>kind of yeah, terrible issue going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>So Chris in the artist's office happens to just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of pick up the American flag that's in like a

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.439
<v Speaker 2>coffee cup on somebody's desk, and it's got where the

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<v Speaker 2>stars should be, big swastika.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, great love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, Blue Dragon has seen economists and now stabs his

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<v Speaker 2>hand to the floor and they're in a life and

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<v Speaker 2>death struggle. Hardcourt gets id'd by this universe Hardcourt as

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 2>an impostor, and Adam Ayla is running for her life,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where we end the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, James Gunn, I rate you for

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<v Speaker 3>going the full whole hog. So first of all, I

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 3>want to say my first thought, and I saw the

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<v Speaker 3>American flag with the swastika. I have to bring it

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.679
<v Speaker 3>back always to my favorite character. There's an incredible swamp

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 3>thing covered by by Brian Bowland. It's really controversial with

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<v Speaker 3>the American flag and in the space where the stars

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.199
<v Speaker 3>would be as the Nazi the swastika. So I immediately

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 3>swamp Thing one fifty three immediately got a great throwback

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:54.160
<v Speaker 3>to that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing that I think is really.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool as well is you know, we've been talking a

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<v Speaker 3>lot since Superman about Earth X, right, and this other universe.

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>So in certain comic book versions of Earth X, that

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 1>is a world where the Nazis won.

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 3>And I think that is clearly what we're seeing here,

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 3>even though it was not a and Captain Triumph and

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Peacemaker and you know, Blue Dragon.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason this is what this man should have

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>thought of, Like he just assumed they were to be

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 1>racist in this. No, I don't want to hear about it.

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 2>No superpowers, their weapons are fine.

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>They have so much money too, Like the house is huge. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this delivered on both the.

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Cameo, with a cameo that I honestly, for some reason

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I found Lex more exciting, maybe because we didn't see

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.919
<v Speaker 3>it coming. I also can think we can assume that

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 3>there will be probably a big cameo in each of

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<v Speaker 3>the other episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way I loved the I loved

0:24:54.880 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I love the slightly humbled version of Lex. He's he listened.

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>He completely disagrees with why he's in prison and doesn't

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 2>think he understands, clearly very smart man that he broke

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>the law in various ways, but he thinks he's right.

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so he appreciates that he got got they

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 3>caught him.

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Sure, his pride, his arrogance has not been crushed in

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>any way. He is he in Belle Reeve feeling like

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm above this. I don't believe that I acknowledge that

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you got me. And that brings out this really interesting

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 2>side of him that I thought was so cool. I

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>really loved it as well.

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so too.

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 3>And also something that I thought was really interesting is

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 3>this is one of the three episodes that James Gunn reviewed,

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean that directed so I think like on

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 3>the official podcast, he was basically like, this is a

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 3>really important moment for not only peace Maker, but the

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 3>entire DCU. And I do think that again, this is

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 3>starting to have that feeling that the MC was always

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 3>searching for, of a true connectivity between these TV TV

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 3>and Yeah, I'm so August is now Nazis in this world.

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 3>What happens like in the next two episodes, do they

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 3>shut this world down? Does Peacemaker have to kill his family?

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Do our universe eleventh Street Kids worry about the fact

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 3>that peace Maker didn't notice.

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>This at all?

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<v Speaker 3>And when do we see Judo Master Binali or this

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<v Speaker 3>or next episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what. Here's what. I think We're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>rescue Judomester.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's he's definitely becoming part of the team after this.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have to rescue him, right yeah, which means

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>that we're going to have to go wherever the people

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<v Speaker 2>of color prisoners are or or one of the prisons.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't go to all of them. Clearly, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that personally, like, obviously this is a terrible universe. It's

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 2>also none of their business, like leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Just save your people and leave, get your people and leave,

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 4>because you know you're trying to saw an incursion where

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 4>then X comes to you know, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on here is in justice bullshit. It's also an

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>altered dimension and it's like, let's go home. So I think, yeah,

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>just leave, get your folks and leave. I think that

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>what's gonna happen is we're gonna have to destroy these portals.

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, that's definitely gonna be the case.

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to. This can't keep it's there's too

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 2>many dangers, and certainly, I think what we've learned about Chris,

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 2>although he's somehow by accident, been a decent steward of

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>this extremely powerful thing. Yeah, he can't. I don't think

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>he can be in whether we destroy it or take

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<v Speaker 2>it from him. He can't be in control of this.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he can't be trusted to be in control of it. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>I do wonder if by the end of this we

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 3>will because James Gunners said there's gonna be this crisis

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<v Speaker 3>in the DCU, it's not something that we're thinking about,

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 3>it's not something that we know, and that Peacemaker was

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 3>gonna set up the you know, Man of Tomorrow, which

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 3>is the second kind of Superman movie or Metropolis movie.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 3>So I also wonder if maybe they don't do that

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 3>and we end up with the fact that these characters

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 3>are in a situation where they suddenly have to deal

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 3>with the fallout of not cleaning up this mess. I'd

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 3>be very interested to see which route they go. But

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 3>you are right, they just need to save at a

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Bio and Judo.

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<v Speaker 1>Master and leave, like probably is the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like a meta meta observation that could be

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe a meta spoiler. I noticed that we got our

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>screeners back like it was locked because of this episode,

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 2>which leads me to believe.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Or they made further they made further.

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 3>They may have just given us the screener when it

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 3>aired on HBO, which they sometimes will do so that

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 3>you can watch it without paying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're right, okay, so they so more to come.

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<v Speaker 1>More to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, I think there's gonna be more crazy cameos. I

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 3>think next episode we're probably gonna have to have a

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 3>big action episode where they maybe we'll see Ads and

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Judo Master have to work together.

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<v Speaker 1>I also wonder.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 3>If this is not going to be something that is

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>easy to overcome for Ads and Peacemaker, because that's meant

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 3>to be her best friend and he didn't notice any

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 3>of this. He just wanted to move into this world

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>where none of them existed.

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>At no point did he ask why there wasn't another

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Ads or why he didn't see other people of color.

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if this is going to be hard.

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<v Speaker 3>For them to overcome, a new potential conflict for where

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have to prove himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rightfully so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it's a It's a great point, and

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it strikes it the kind of central thesis

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>of this show ever since season one, which is can

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 2>you pull a guy like? And it's honestly, like kind

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of and you know, like I don't want to put

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>too much on it, kind of an important question for

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the country.

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Like oh it is right now?

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, is that that type of person, the person

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 2>who has been who grew up in a milieu of racism,

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 2>that is good hearted and empathic but doesn't understand.

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Like doesn't even comprehend.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't comprehend it. Is that a person that you

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 2>can like pull back, that you can like wake up

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and be like, because they're friends with you, that you

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>can point out that, hey, didn't you notice, Like you

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't notice that? When does that tell you about your worldview?

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 2>And so I think that they should and probably will

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.719
<v Speaker 2>be bothered by it. Like I think if I was

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>being chased down the street by a Nazi.

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Mob because I tried to save my friend, this is

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 3>the perfect weld who my good friend loves it, loves

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these people who are chasing me.

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I would have a problem with that, and I would

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>hope that that would open my friend's eyes. So I think, yeah,

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be a conversation, right.

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I'm ready for these next two episodes. This

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>is really I saw a lot of people saying, you know,

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 3>the season has felt really slow bun to them, but

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 3>this episode really kicked it up. I think this episode

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 3>is just pure entertained. This season is just pure entertainment.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Like it has been so high quality and consistency for

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 3>me this season, and for me, this just kicks us

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 3>into like a really interesting final arc for the show. Yeah.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I haven't thought the season was slowburn at all. In fact,

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I like this season on every level so much.

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>More than me too, Like, no question, this is a

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>far superior season.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's so good.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm interested to see if I'm interested to

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>see if Chris gets called out.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what I want to know, Like where does

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 3>he end this season.

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 2>For basically committing sexual assault in the Nazi universe like

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 2>he did.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Well well, bad time to be peace maker.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the fact that I ever realized that that was

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 3>a He's like, I'm just the same person.

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you're not. You've literally replaced this woman's And here's.

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Here's the important question to me. I think obviously Judo

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 2>master at a Bio Harcourt are gonna have feelings about this.

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>What how much Chris has loved this universe. And to me,

0:32:53.640 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>the big question, having been in participated in experienced situations

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 2>where you have to call somebody out for a thing,

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>how defensive does Chris get exactly? And is it like

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>that's always.

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Physically as well.

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing because this man like just stabbed Rick

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Flag Junior in the hat with a piece of gloss

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 3>because Amanda Walla told him to.

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like, yeah, it's gonna be interesting.

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing that I always that happens every time

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 2>when I've been in a situation where you have to

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 2>rightfully say hey, just so you know, that was kind

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>of fed up for that and the other and the person.

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>The initial reaction every single time of every person is always.

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>What, No, come on, get over it.

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't mean anything bad that this, And so like

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>what is Chris's reaction I think is really the most

0:33:55.240 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 2>important issue, because is Chris going to be like, I mean,

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 2>it can go I don't think it will go this way.

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>But it's he's got a choice, which is I did

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it here, Like there's a world in which I

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 2>can just.

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Ignore it exactly. That's what I have everything I want

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 3>mm hmm.

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 2>But that's his big choice what will you be willing.

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>To ignore to be happy?

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that is also an incredible Again,

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 3>this is another show where by the time you hit this,

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 3>we've caught up with it so fast that you're kind

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 3>of going, oh, okay, this is actually an important question

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.439
<v Speaker 3>that people need to ask themselves in real life too,

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 3>you know twenty twenty five baby.

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you mentioned that because I thought that

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 2>to your point, so many shows that we've been yeah,

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>we've been watching and talking about. It's like, to your point,

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 2>the world's kind of events have caught up with the

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 2>show to the point that the metaphor kind of falls

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>apart in the face of it. I thought that this

0:34:56.000 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>show actually did something very smart, which is Okay, Ever,

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 2>all the people except the way people are gone. They're

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 2>all gone. They were like, uh, let's see, so they

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 2>jumped like kind of not way ahead, but farther ahead

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 2>than everybody else has gone. And I think that that

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 2>is as you unravel that, I'm like sitting here going,

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>oh man, this shows like a lot deep we've gone again.

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 3>I know this man is coming through with the political

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 3>angles that we can't deny.

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, incredible show. Can't wait Rosie Ye see what happens

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<v Speaker 2>on the next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ian will be back on the next episode.

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 3>We can get his thoughts and his success and I'm

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 3>very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>To see what happens next.

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<v Speaker 2>On the next episode of Extra Vision, We're diving into

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<v Speaker 2>our Winter TV preview and a special interview with one

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<v Speaker 2>of the songwriting teams behind the smash global hit K Hop,

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<v Speaker 2>Deep and Hunters. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening,

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