1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Warning. 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Today's episode contains spoilers for the shock sixth episode of 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: season two of Peacemaker. Hello, Hey, it is Jas Sconcepcio, 4 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Adam Rosie Night and welcome back to x Ravision the 5 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: podcast Wait. 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Coming over by our podcast. 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: We're bringing you three episodes a week, Gus. 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: Today we are going to be breaking down that Peacemaker 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: season two episode six, Shoka Ignorance is Chris, perfectly named 10 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: episode perfect name. Sadly, our Peacemaker correspondent super producer Ian 11 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: will not be here, so it just me and Jason. 12 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: But he was right. 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: We want to give him some he was right time 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: and yeah, what a crazy, crazy, crazy episode. 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's dive into it. Okay. Peacemaker season two, 16 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: episode six, Ignorance is Chris. We open. In the Perfect Universe, 17 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: the whole family plus Hardcourt are at like a cracker 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: barrel perfect yeah, perfect Dad is They're covered in apparently 19 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: like kaiju guts. Dad is toasting Chris. They're having a 20 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: grand old time. Kids are coming up saying can I 21 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: get a picture with you? Blue Dragon? It's perfect, It's 22 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: too perfect perfect. Meanwhile, in the other universe, in our universe, 23 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: the eleven Street Kids go to Vig's mom's house too, 24 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: because that's where they're going to reopen the portal in 25 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: the basement's beautiful house, nice home. Argus has no idea 26 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: who Vig is, so this is perfect. Adrian's mom seems 27 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: very very nice, but like too nosy, very very supportive, 28 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: but like way too involved in her way to be fair. 29 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: He does still live at home, so what are you 30 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: gonna do? He is so mean to her all the time, 31 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: but she takes it all in stride, and he takes 32 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: them down to his secret room with the multiple key 33 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: locks down there, and Vich's mom is talking the whole 34 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: time about his friends, about her son's friends, and she 35 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: knows them all how he talks about them, and apparently 36 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: Vig told mom that Harcourt hardcore. Originally she says was 37 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: his girlfriend, but they broke up and Vich is mortified 38 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: at this, and Harcourt is like kind of furious but 39 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: just merely smoldering, and she goes away, and Vich's like, 40 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: my mom has dementia, which. 41 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: Definitely no will believes scattered bals like this. 42 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: I believe that they go in the room and it's 43 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: like the Sinaloa cartels, like storage. 44 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: For yeah, he's living in scafface fantasis. 45 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: You know, like Vich has obviously been killing criminals for 46 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: a long time, effectively mass murdering in a kind of 47 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: you know Hawkeye in End Game, And he's got a 48 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: lot of stuff he's been doing, and he's been taking 49 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: the stuff there's I guess to his credit, he hasn't 50 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: been doing it. He does it only for the love 51 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: of the game. 52 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he just keeps all this money. 53 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: He just keeps the stuff. He's not like out there 54 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: like flipping the cash or the bags of fentanyl and coke. 55 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely not selling the drugs at least, he's 56 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 3: just keeping them in these Yeah. 57 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: He's just got this storage from filled with drugs and money. 58 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: And the eleven streeters, who many of whom have been 59 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: desperate for money by the way, you know, like Hardcourt 60 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: is must be thinking, hold on, I almost took a 61 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: job at the drug store. 62 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we like Ads is taking like gigs where 63 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: people think she is maybe a sexuast come on. 64 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so as Vig is like has his back 65 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: turned to like put on his uniform, they're like stuffing 66 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: their pockets, which like to fair, I honestly, he would 67 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: want them to have it. 68 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: Probably anyway, he would, he'd give. 69 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: It to them if they said it in the right Yeah. Anyway, 70 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: they set up the portal and his beanie baby closet door, 71 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: and you know, the burst of energy happens, and everybody's 72 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: covered in a thin mist of hopefully cocaine. 73 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: Okay, hope, probably no, cokay't the. 74 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 2: Best Probably the best outcome is that it's cocaine. Yeah, 75 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: and then we find out later that it is cocaine. 76 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: They go into the portal and they're in there. It's amazing, 77 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: you know, they can't believe hardcourts, like I can't believe 78 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: Chris was telling the truth, Like why was he keeping 79 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: this to himself? Didn't he think this was crazy? And 80 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: out of Bio is like, well, he grew up with this. 81 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: This is like normal to him. And so now they're 82 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: wandering around looking for that rack of peacemaker helmets that 83 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: will tell them which door to go to at Argus Seniors, 84 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: fuming Rosie, He's. 85 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: Oh stressed, he's. 86 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: So mad, so so mad. I'm surprised Bordeau isn't in 87 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: there giving a shoulder rub to help. 88 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: Him, right, I'm like, come on. 89 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: B Fleury comes in and is like, so, in addition 90 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: to Chris walking out the door, we don't know where 91 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: the other eleventh Street associates. 92 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Are right now? 93 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: And uh oh yeah, Judo Master also got so sorry 94 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, where is by the way? Well, by 95 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: the way, I think, thinking about where we're going now, 96 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm quite concerned about continuing. 97 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: Health and life of the Judas. 98 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: So Senior is like, listen, the world depends on us 99 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: finding Peacemaker. 100 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: No, no, it doesn't. 101 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: Just obsessed, yeah, stop it, but like you know, okay, fine, 102 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: and then Senior gets an idea. 103 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: As Flurry hangs up the phone, he gets on the 104 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: horn with Jessica and he says and he calls up 105 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: and he's like, listen, I want you to call bell 106 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: Reeve because there's someone I need to talk to you there. 107 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: Who could that be? 108 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: We found out later. 109 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: Finds the rack of peace Maker helmets, Vidge knows the 110 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: door code. They go in, so now it's like, what 111 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: do we do? How do we find it? Well, Vig 112 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: is speaking about obsession, obsessed with finding this version of 113 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: himself in this world. It's true, and they all go 114 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: to Chris's bedroom to kind of scope it out. And 115 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: Hardcourt sees the picture of alternate Chris and alternate Harcourt 116 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: and she's like, oh my god, and all of a sudden, 117 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Captain Triumph walks in, so Harcourt quick thinking, you know, 118 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: ad and Economists and the rest kind of hide in 119 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: different rooms with Harcourt like closing a closet door on them, 120 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: and Captain Triumph's like, Kirk Card, what are you doing here? 121 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: And She's like, oh, I came to pick up this 122 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 2: snow globe, like obviously, yeah, Chris wanted me to have it. 123 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: It's really weird reason and Captain Triumph is like, okay, 124 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: well I'm heading back past Argus if you need a run. 125 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: She's like okay, yeah, sure, and this, you know, give 126 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: allows her to draw Captain Triumph away from the team 127 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: and meanwhile, so they leave an Economists meanwhile, is like 128 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: getting sick thinking the whole idea of like another dimension 129 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: with yeah versions. 130 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: Of He's the only one who understands. 131 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: And it's making him literally physically sick. He's gonna throw up. Meanwhile, 132 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Vich is like, yeah, but like what do you think. 133 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, I gotta find me, Like it's gonna be 134 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 2: so crazy. I wonder if he like likes the same 135 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: stuff I do, and so like vij like fully wants 136 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: to stay. 137 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: And I know he's believing in it. 138 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: With loves it, and like there's no way to keep 139 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: him there, Like he justs and there's absolutely no way 140 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: that there's gonna they're gonna be able to keep you know, 141 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: in one place. He goes off, We're gonna go to 142 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: a quick cat break and will be right, and we're rack. 143 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: Chris and alternate Hardcourt are cuddling post sex and let 144 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: me just stop here and say oooo, this is sexual as. 145 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: It's sexual assault. It is because she doesn't know she's 146 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: having sex. 147 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: With Yeah, I mean, it's the face off. It's the 148 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: solve problem. I won't belabor it, but it is talk 149 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: about it. 150 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Chris is a creepy Yeah, that is. 151 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: What happened, and unsurprising I think that Chris doesn't see 152 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: it that way and doesn't understand that that's what happened. 153 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: But that's what he did. Meanwhile, real Harcourt and Keith 154 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: are you know, driving through the streets and Harcourt is 155 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: like looking at it and noticing something weird. She's like, 156 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: this is something is off. And she's also learning like 157 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: weird facts about this world that like the cult eighties 158 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: goth metal like band Helloween is apparently considered the first 159 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: or second most important group of all time. That's weird. 160 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: Crazy. 161 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: Mick Jagger is the lead singer of the Beatles. I 162 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: think there's another one anyway. Strange differences, right, Yeah, lots 163 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: of weird stuff going on, and Chris with Harcourt seems 164 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: to feel it too, may although maybe he's feeling like, wait, 165 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: did I do Did I do a bad? 166 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 167 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: I think yeah. Maybe he's feeling a little bit like like. 168 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: What hold on? 169 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: Did I. 170 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: With me? 171 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: And that's bad? 172 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly. 173 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: At Argus, the security dog barks at Hardcourt because she 174 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: is covered in cocaine, so they take her to an 175 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: interrogation room. Chris see real. Chris sees this and is like, 176 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: oh shit, that's real Hardcourt VIDG. Meanwhile, it goes to 177 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: his mom's house. His dad is there, not gay apparently, 178 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: and the house is almost identical with small small changes 179 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: that delight Vige. His keys work in his secret room, 180 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: and when he goes in there, it's neater, with less 181 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: cocaine and stuff, less drugs, And we're gonna about about 182 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: to fight out why. So he goes in there and 183 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: he introduces himself to his other self and they have 184 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: the same person. 185 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: I love this. This was so funny too. 186 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: They got to do the Spider Man meme and they 187 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: were so happy about it. 188 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: I love this. They let Adrian have his fun before 189 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: you kind of. 190 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: Learn the truth about the world, which I thought was 191 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: really nice. 192 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, and and Economist are like, what do we do? 193 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 2: Should we find eagerly like they find him. He's raiding 194 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: the fridge, He's made a huge mess. Flag at Bell 195 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: Reeve is visiting Lex. 196 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: WHOA Okay, I know, I don't know if we guessed Lex. 197 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if he was in our conversation. 198 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: I did not. 199 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: I thought this was extremely cool, and I thought that they. 200 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: Did a great job. 201 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: Kind of Lex is the same character you see in Superman, obviously, 202 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: but there is a coldness and a kind of extra 203 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: layer of threat here that I think fits the tone 204 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: of the show really well. 205 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: Plus two like this is a very. 206 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: Interesting and important plot point, simply because we know that 207 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: Lex is going to be teaming up with Superman and 208 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: Man of Tomorrow. 209 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: That's not a spoiler. James Gunn has talked about it. 210 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: This scene was actually filmed during the filming of Superman, 211 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: so the once again the James gun connectivity is really 212 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: delivering here, and I think, like for me, this just 213 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: felt like a whoa moment, even though we knew. 214 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: It was coming. It was interesting. 215 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: I'd actually seen a lot of people who were theorizing 216 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: that Idris Elba would be back, which I would love. 217 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: We all know. 218 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: I love his version of Bloodshire, great character, like incredible 219 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: fun times. 220 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: But I love that they went for Lex. I think 221 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: it works. And also we need to know how. 222 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: Lex is gonna get out of Bell Reeve to help 223 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: Superman because they are going to team up in of. 224 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Tomorrow, so I think this begins to set that scene. 225 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: I completely agree with everything you said. It was the 226 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: perfect decision. It advances both the story and the show 227 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: and the wider gunnaverse story. And it's not like a 228 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: side show like an alternate Superman or an alternate Batman 229 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: or something like that. 230 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: Like it's it actually moves the story and yeah, it's 231 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: like this is happening. 232 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: It was great. So Senior makes his offer, which is like, listen, 233 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: you're in jail for two hundred and fifty plus years, 234 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty five years. I think, yeah, fifty, 235 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: I can't get you, I can't get you free, but 236 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: I can get you in a prison without meta humans, 237 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: which I know you hate them, and you're having to 238 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: be in here with like Dragon Man and shit, it's terrible. 239 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: He's like you literally like you're in prison for trying 240 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: to get rid of matta humans. 241 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: Like this is not gonna go well for you. 242 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're there with King Shark and like 243 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: Dragon Man, like the worst, weirdest Yeah, like the humans 244 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: these are not the human pot of matt human. 245 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: You know, it's very like. 246 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: They're not even fun to talk to exactly. Yeah. So 247 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 2: here's what I need from you, Senior says, I need 248 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: to find a specific portal built by Peacemaker. Lex initially 249 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: doesn't give a ship about peace because he's like, I 250 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: don't care who cares? Who cares? Like they're irrelevant, Like 251 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: it's the many humans I care about, Like I don't 252 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: care about like guys that dress up in costumes and 253 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: shoot other guys. Yeah it's like so what yeah, but 254 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: but but Senior is like, listen, it's a multi dimensional portal, 255 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: which obviously that's why I'm here, like you know about those? 256 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? How do you know about those? 257 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? And and you're really smart? So how how do 258 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: I attract this thing? How do I find it? 259 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Lexus? 260 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: Like I could build a scanner and and and then 261 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: you get me out, You get me to a regular 262 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: human prison. Fine. In the Perfect Universe, Chris goes to 263 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: see Hardcourt in the interrogation room, Real Chris, Real Hardcourt, 264 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: and he's like, what the fuck are you doing here? 265 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: And they argue. She's like, I saved your life at 266 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: the ambush like Bordeaux was the cyborg was gonna kill you, 267 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: and like I saved your life and you can't even 268 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: say thank you. And she explains like why she's covered 269 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: in coke and explains that all the eleven Streeters are 270 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: here to save him because he doesn't belong here in 271 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: this universe. And Chris, meanwhile, is like laser focused on 272 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: the boat. What happened on the boat? 273 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god? This man just get over on the boat. 274 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: Man. 275 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm like fucking wow. 276 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: Don't you like doesn't didn't that mean anything to you? 277 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: And like what is it? Because of Rick flag? 278 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: Oh? Right? 279 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: Like what was your thing about the reflection? Harcord's like, listen, 280 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: am I proud of the Rick flag junior thing? 281 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: No? 282 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: No, but it happened and it didn't really mean anything. 283 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: And Chris is like, well, listen, I love you, and 284 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: Hardcourt is like, obviously, I know that. Yeah, and he 285 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: wants to know what her feelings are, and her feelings 286 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: are basically that she doesn't feel worthy of love or 287 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: respect or positive feelings towards what she feels like a 288 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: piece of shit for various reasons, and that's why she 289 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: goes and does. 290 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Crazy self sabota stuff. Yeah. 291 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so she basically is like, listen, so what 292 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: is it going to be? And there's a great point 293 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: from her, So what's is? So you're telling me like, 294 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: you'll stay here unless I tell you I love you, 295 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: like exactly, and this is I love that that was 296 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: said me too, because I think that I think again, 297 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: I do wonder if James Gunn's getting himself. 298 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: Into a bit of a situation. 299 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: Because I do feel like Chris is not somebody you 300 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: want to continue following after this season. Again, like they 301 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: did a good job redeeming him slightly off to the 302 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: Rick Flagg junior stuff, but I do feel like the 303 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: fact that he slept with old universe Hardcourt, the fact 304 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: that he's now essentially holding Prime Hardcourt hostage. 305 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: And I love that she sees that. Yeah, I'm I'm. 306 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: Interested to see where it goes, because again, this show 307 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: is just really not afraid to show the bad side 308 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: of heroes. 309 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: I like that as well. And I thought that, Listen, 310 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: this is a very toxic These are two toxic people 311 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: that you probably could argue being together would only amplify 312 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: the toxicness. I agree, But again, I think like the 313 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: central thesis is about redemption, and that part of it 314 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: I I like, like, I like the idea of. 315 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Oh me too, can believe? 316 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, can you believe in a person even if they 317 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: don't believe in themselves? And again, I'm so glad that 318 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: Harcourt pointed out, So you're basically giving me this bullshit ultimatum, Chris. 319 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: She she basically begs him to come home without ye 320 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: tell me you love me demand, which I really respected 321 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: from her, and Chris says, listen, I can't desert my 322 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: alternate brother, alternate father, alternate heart. Meanwhile, also I'm fooling Yeah, 323 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: So the guard comes in before they can really resolve 324 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: this conversation, and basically says like, you're you're tested negative 325 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: for drugs. You can go into August now. Meanwhile, Senior, 326 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: leaving the interrogation room with Lex, tells Bordo that Lex 327 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: agreed to it, and Lex is going to help us. 328 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: Back in Perfect Universe's Uh Vigilante House, the Vigils are 329 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: best friends. They're instantly like everything is identical, Rosie. They 330 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: love every They love animals in the same way, they 331 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 2: love like murder in the same. 332 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: Way, the memes in the same way. Like they know 333 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: this is made meant to be. I love this for them. 334 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: I love this from They have all these little weird 335 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: things too, like a little weird piccadillos that are exactly 336 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: the same except except important. Why is there no drugs 337 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: and guns here? Because this vig is not out there 338 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: killing street criminals. He's leading street militia criminals in a 339 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: mission to take down the Peacemaker who he hates that 340 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: y And meanwhile, vige our Vidge is like, oh, but 341 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: that's my best friend. Maybe yeah, So obviously this is 342 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: gonna be it. This is gonna be an issue. Back 343 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: at the house, Ad asks economists she's feeling she's getting 344 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: a little stir crazy. She's like, you want to go 345 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: for a walk just around the block. 346 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 347 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: He's like, no, I got to clean up. I gotta 348 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: finish cleaning up Eagerly's mess. So she goes alone and 349 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: immediately I'm like, fuck, Ian, it's gonna be right. 350 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we know, Okay, we need to give super producer 351 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: Ian this shout out because we recorded these episodes were 352 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: when we had place I heard it, and it was 353 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: the first place we heard it was him. By the 354 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 3: time our episode had come out, it definitely other places 355 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: had it. 356 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, he noticed. 357 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: That ship straight away, and I want to say I 358 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 3: want to give him a big shout out. And I 359 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 3: also want to give James Gunner shout out because actually, 360 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: so often in Superhero TV and superhero movies there are 361 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: just loads of white people and you don't even consider it. 362 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: And I think he did a really good job playing 363 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: into the fact that most of the audience wouldn't notice it, 364 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: and he didn't, but Ian did. And yeah, as soon 365 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: as Ads leads the house, you start to realize that 366 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 3: not only is this a racist place, but like there 367 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: might just not be any people of. 368 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: Color, like wherever they are all killed. They might be 369 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: all killed because this the responses are insane. 370 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: They might be in the their version of a nice jail. 371 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, like phantom zone or something that. 372 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: They like it very very bad. So you know she's 373 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: getting looks immediately from people. And then Blue Dragon happens 374 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: to be. Several things happen at once. Blue Dragon comes 375 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: home and Economist has to hide all to her court 376 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: goes comes into work and is we realize she's about 377 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: to see herself while Harcourt is up on the floor saying, hey, Chris, 378 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: don't you notice how like everyone is very very white 379 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: up here? And Chris is like, what good for her? 380 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: She's the first like thank you. 381 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like everywhere I go, I don't see any 382 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: people of color, like at all. Captain Triumph is driving by, 383 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: sees that a bio and is like it's a black. 384 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: Yep and the whole now oh fuck, like oh fuck, 385 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: the whole. 386 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 2: Neighborhood is like coming streaming out of their homes. Chase 387 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: out of bio down the. 388 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: Street, he says, And I believe he says something like 389 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: he's like one go out, one got that makes us 390 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: know that lets us know there is very clearly some 391 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 3: kind of yeah, terrible issue going on here. 392 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: So Chris in the artist's office happens to just kind 393 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: of pick up the American flag that's in like a 394 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: coffee cup on somebody's desk, and it's got where the 395 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: stars should be, big swastika. 396 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: Oh great, great love that. 397 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Blue Dragon has seen economists and now stabs his 398 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: hand to the floor and they're in a life and 399 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: death struggle. Hardcourt gets id'd by this universe Hardcourt as 400 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: an impostor, and Adam Ayla is running for her life, 401 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: and that's where we end the episode. 402 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: Crazy. 403 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: I have to say, James Gunn, I rate you for 404 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: going the full whole hog. So first of all, I 405 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: want to say my first thought, and I saw the 406 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: American flag with the swastika. I have to bring it 407 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 3: back always to my favorite character. There's an incredible swamp 408 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: thing covered by by Brian Bowland. It's really controversial with 409 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: the American flag and in the space where the stars 410 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: would be as the Nazi the swastika. So I immediately 411 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: swamp Thing one fifty three immediately got a great throwback 412 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: to that. 413 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: But the thing that I think is really. 414 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: Cool as well is you know, we've been talking a 415 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: lot since Superman about Earth X, right, and this other universe. 416 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: So in certain comic book versions of Earth X, that 417 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: is a world where the Nazis won. 418 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: And I think that is clearly what we're seeing here, 419 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: even though it was not a and Captain Triumph and 420 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 3: Peacemaker and you know, Blue Dragon. 421 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: There's a reason this is what this man should have 422 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: thought of, Like he just assumed they were to be 423 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: racist in this. No, I don't want to hear about it. 424 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: No superpowers, their weapons are fine. 425 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: They have so much money too, Like the house is huge. Yeah. 426 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: I thought this delivered on both the. 427 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: Cameo, with a cameo that I honestly, for some reason 428 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: I found Lex more exciting, maybe because we didn't see 429 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: it coming. I also can think we can assume that 430 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: there will be probably a big cameo in each of 431 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: the other episodes. 432 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: I feel the same way I loved the I loved 433 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: I love the slightly humbled version of Lex. He's he listened. 434 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: He completely disagrees with why he's in prison and doesn't 435 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: think he understands, clearly very smart man that he broke 436 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: the law in various ways, but he thinks he's right. 437 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he appreciates that he got got they 438 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 3: caught him. 439 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: Sure, his pride, his arrogance has not been crushed in 440 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: any way. He is he in Belle Reeve feeling like 441 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm above this. I don't believe that I acknowledge that 442 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: you got me. And that brings out this really interesting 443 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: side of him that I thought was so cool. I 444 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: really loved it as well. 445 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. 446 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: And also something that I thought was really interesting is 447 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: this is one of the three episodes that James Gunn reviewed, 448 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 3: So I mean that directed so I think like on 449 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: the official podcast, he was basically like, this is a 450 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: really important moment for not only peace Maker, but the 451 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: entire DCU. And I do think that again, this is 452 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: starting to have that feeling that the MC was always 453 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: searching for, of a true connectivity between these TV TV 454 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: and Yeah, I'm so August is now Nazis in this world. 455 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: What happens like in the next two episodes, do they 456 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 3: shut this world down? Does Peacemaker have to kill his family? 457 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: Do our universe eleventh Street Kids worry about the fact 458 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: that peace Maker didn't notice. 459 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: This at all? 460 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: And when do we see Judo Master Binali or this 461 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: or next episode. 462 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: Here's what. Here's what. I think We're gonna have to 463 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: rescue Judomester. 464 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: Yes, that's he's definitely becoming part of the team after this. 465 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: We will have to rescue him, right yeah, which means 466 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: that we're going to have to go wherever the people 467 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: of color prisoners are or or one of the prisons. 468 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: He can't go to all of them. Clearly, I think 469 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: that personally, like, obviously this is a terrible universe. It's 470 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 2: also none of their business, like leave. 471 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 4: Just save your people and leave, get your people and leave, 472 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: because you know you're trying to saw an incursion where 473 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 4: then X comes to you know, he's. 474 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: Going on here is in justice bullshit. It's also an 475 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: altered dimension and it's like, let's go home. So I think, yeah, 476 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: just leave, get your folks and leave. I think that 477 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen is we're gonna have to destroy these portals. 478 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, that's definitely gonna be the case. 479 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to. This can't keep it's there's too 480 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: many dangers, and certainly, I think what we've learned about Chris, 481 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: although he's somehow by accident, been a decent steward of 482 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: this extremely powerful thing. Yeah, he can't. I don't think 483 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: he can be in whether we destroy it or take 484 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 2: it from him. He can't be in control of this. 485 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: No, he can't be trusted to be in control of it. Also, 486 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: I do wonder if by the end of this we 487 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: will because James Gunners said there's gonna be this crisis 488 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: in the DCU, it's not something that we're thinking about, 489 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: it's not something that we know, and that Peacemaker was 490 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: gonna set up the you know, Man of Tomorrow, which 491 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: is the second kind of Superman movie or Metropolis movie. 492 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: So I also wonder if maybe they don't do that 493 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: and we end up with the fact that these characters 494 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: are in a situation where they suddenly have to deal 495 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: with the fallout of not cleaning up this mess. I'd 496 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: be very interested to see which route they go. But 497 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: you are right, they just need to save at a 498 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: Bio and Judo. 499 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: Master and leave, like probably is the plan. 500 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: This is like a meta meta observation that could be 501 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: maybe a meta spoiler. I noticed that we got our 502 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: screeners back like it was locked because of this episode, 503 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: which leads me to believe. 504 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: Or they made further they made further. 505 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: They may have just given us the screener when it 506 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: aired on HBO, which they sometimes will do so that 507 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: you can watch it without paying. 508 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, okay, so they so more to come. 509 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: More to come. 510 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: Basically, I think there's gonna be more crazy cameos. I 511 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: think next episode we're probably gonna have to have a 512 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: big action episode where they maybe we'll see Ads and 513 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 3: Judo Master have to work together. 514 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: I also wonder. 515 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: If this is not going to be something that is 516 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: easy to overcome for Ads and Peacemaker, because that's meant 517 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: to be her best friend and he didn't notice any 518 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: of this. He just wanted to move into this world 519 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: where none of them existed. 520 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: At no point did he ask why there wasn't another 521 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: Ads or why he didn't see other people of color. 522 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if this is going to be hard. 523 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: For them to overcome, a new potential conflict for where 524 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: he's gonna have to prove himself. 525 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm rightfully so. 526 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: I think that it's a It's a great point, and 527 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: I think it strikes it the kind of central thesis 528 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: of this show ever since season one, which is can 529 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: you pull a guy like? And it's honestly, like kind 530 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: of and you know, like I don't want to put 531 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: too much on it, kind of an important question for 532 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: the country. 533 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Like oh it is right now? 534 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, is that that type of person, the person 535 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: who has been who grew up in a milieu of racism, 536 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: that is good hearted and empathic but doesn't understand. 537 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: Like doesn't even comprehend. 538 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't comprehend it. Is that a person that you 539 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: can like pull back, that you can like wake up 540 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: and be like, because they're friends with you, that you 541 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: can point out that, hey, didn't you notice, Like you 542 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: didn't notice that? When does that tell you about your worldview? 543 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: And so I think that they should and probably will 544 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 2: be bothered by it. Like I think if I was 545 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: being chased down the street by a Nazi. 546 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: Mob because I tried to save my friend, this is 547 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 3: the perfect weld who my good friend loves it, loves 548 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: a lot of these people who are chasing me. 549 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: I would have a problem with that, and I would 550 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: hope that that would open my friend's eyes. So I think, yeah, 551 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: that's gonna be a conversation, right. 552 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: I know. 553 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm ready for these next two episodes. This 554 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: is really I saw a lot of people saying, you know, 555 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: the season has felt really slow bun to them, but 556 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: this episode really kicked it up. I think this episode 557 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: is just pure entertained. This season is just pure entertainment. 558 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: Like it has been so high quality and consistency for 559 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: me this season, and for me, this just kicks us 560 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: into like a really interesting final arc for the show. Yeah. 561 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: I haven't thought the season was slowburn at all. In fact, 562 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: I think I like this season on every level so much. 563 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: More than me too, Like, no question, this is a 564 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: far superior season. 565 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: It's it's so good. 566 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm interested to see if I'm interested to 567 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: see if Chris gets called out. 568 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I want to know, Like where does 569 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: he end this season. 570 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: For basically committing sexual assault in the Nazi universe like 571 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: he did. 572 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: Well well, bad time to be peace maker. 573 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that I ever realized that that was 574 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: a He's like, I'm just the same person. 575 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: It's like, you're not. You've literally replaced this woman's And here's. 576 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: Here's the important question to me. I think obviously Judo 577 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: master at a Bio Harcourt are gonna have feelings about this. 578 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: What how much Chris has loved this universe. And to me, 579 00:32:53,640 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: the big question, having been in participated in experienced situations 580 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: where you have to call somebody out for a thing, 581 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: how defensive does Chris get exactly? And is it like 582 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: that's always. 583 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: Physically as well. 584 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: That's the thing because this man like just stabbed Rick 585 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: Flag Junior in the hat with a piece of gloss 586 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: because Amanda Walla told him to. 587 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, like, yeah, it's gonna be interesting. 588 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: That's the thing that I always that happens every time 589 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: when I've been in a situation where you have to 590 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: rightfully say hey, just so you know, that was kind 591 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: of fed up for that and the other and the person. 592 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: The initial reaction every single time of every person is always. 593 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: What, No, come on, get over it. 594 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 2: I didn't mean anything bad that this, And so like 595 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: what is Chris's reaction I think is really the most 596 00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: important issue, because is Chris going to be like, I mean, 597 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: it can go I don't think it will go this way. 598 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: But it's he's got a choice, which is I did 599 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: enjoy it here, Like there's a world in which I 600 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: can just. 601 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: Ignore it exactly. That's what I have everything I want 602 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 3: mm hmm. 603 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: But that's his big choice what will you be willing. 604 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: To ignore to be happy? 605 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: And I think that that is also an incredible Again, 606 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 3: this is another show where by the time you hit this, 607 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: we've caught up with it so fast that you're kind 608 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: of going, oh, okay, this is actually an important question 609 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 3: that people need to ask themselves in real life too, 610 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: you know twenty twenty five baby. 611 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you mentioned that because I thought that 612 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: to your point, so many shows that we've been yeah, 613 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: we've been watching and talking about. It's like, to your point, 614 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 2: the world's kind of events have caught up with the 615 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: show to the point that the metaphor kind of falls 616 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: apart in the face of it. I thought that this 617 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: show actually did something very smart, which is Okay, Ever, 618 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: all the people except the way people are gone. They're 619 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: all gone. They were like, uh, let's see, so they 620 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: jumped like kind of not way ahead, but farther ahead 621 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: than everybody else has gone. And I think that that 622 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: is as you unravel that, I'm like sitting here going, 623 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: oh man, this shows like a lot deep we've gone again. 624 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: I know this man is coming through with the political 625 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: angles that we can't deny. 626 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: Okay, incredible show. Can't wait Rosie Ye see what happens 627 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: on the next episode. 628 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: And Ian will be back on the next episode. 629 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: We can get his thoughts and his success and I'm 630 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: very excited. 631 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: To see what happens next. 632 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: On the next episode of Extra Vision, We're diving into 633 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: our Winter TV preview and a special interview with one 634 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: of the songwriting teams behind the smash global hit K Hop, 635 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: Deep and Hunters. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, 636 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: Bye x ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and 637 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 638 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman. 639 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: Our supervising producer is Abuza part. 640 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Faye Wag. 641 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 2: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme 642 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: songs by Aaron Kaufman. 643 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman 644 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: And Heidi our discord moderator.