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Speaker 1: Start today with a Kyler Murray topic. Because you live

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, you've seen a lot of Kyler Murray. I

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Speaker 1: used to live in LA watched a lot of NFC West.

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Speaker 1: So Kyler Murray has signed a one year deal with

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Speaker 1: the great Kevin O'Connell, great coach, great offensive coach. This

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Speaker 1: is where Sam Darnold's career was reborn. They signed him

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Speaker 1: for a year, And what does that mean for JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: I think we all know JJ McCarthy, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it's easy to figure out first round, second round quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I know it's hard.

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Speaker 1: But JJ McCarthy is a cautionary tale for every general

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Speaker 1: manager in the NFL. Beware of two things, the game

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Speaker 1: manager at the college level, and beware of when the

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Speaker 1: number one trait for a college quarterback is he's a winner.

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Speaker 1: That's what they said about t Bow. That doesn't mean anything. Okay.

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Speaker 1: These game managing college quarterbacks usually come from Alabama or

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Georgia, these football factories where they can turn

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Speaker 1: and hand it off, throw twenty three times a game.

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Speaker 1: Jjm McCarthy. He came from the best Michigan team probably ever.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen guys were drafted, stacked roster, and he only threw

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Speaker 2: He threw for sixty.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to play on a roster like that,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to carry the team. But I better

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Speaker 1: see like forty five touchdowns. Fifty five touchdowns every quarterback

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Speaker 1: in JJ McCarthy's class. Everyone Bo Nicks, Jaden Daniels, Michael Pennix,

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Speaker 1: Drake May, Caleb Williams, every other first round quarterback, every

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Speaker 1: other one USC, Oregon, North Carolina, LSU, some good programs.

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Speaker 1: They had to throw for over three hundred yards a game.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy two for under two hundred yards a game.

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Speaker 1: That's the first warning side and the second. And I

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Speaker 1: know Pat in the back time. I said he is

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Speaker 1: the one quarterback coming in this first round draft class.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to work. The other thing was,

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Speaker 1: first of all, he didn't have any rate wow traits.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, wow horsepower, Bo Nicks, toughness, durability, athletic ability,

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels kind of a Lamar Jackson type player. Drake May,

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Speaker 1: big size, big arm, Pennix, good arm. JJ McCarthy's a winner.

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Speaker 1: A winner is how you should describe a poker player

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Speaker 1: guy's a winner. It's kind of all I need to know.

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Speaker 1: Poker player, guy's a winner. Sit down at the table.

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Speaker 1: That's Phil helm youth. That's all I need to know.

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Speaker 1: We don't talk about any other athlete and say he's

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Speaker 1: a winner. We don't draft cornerbacks left tackles, guards, running

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Speaker 1: backs and say, well, you know, production was so so,

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Speaker 1: but he is a winner. Doesn't mean anything. Same with

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Speaker 1: college basketball players. Nobody's drafting Darren Peterson number one because

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Speaker 1: he's a winner. They're looking at his talent and his traits.

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Speaker 1: So I just I don't buy the he's a winner thing.

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Speaker 1: Now you could say Fernando Mendoza Colin, Yeah, he won

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Speaker 1: because he's a killer, because he's great late, because he

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Speaker 1: beat Miami almost single handedly in the fourth quarter. He

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Speaker 1: He was asked to carry a good roster. That JJ

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Speaker 1: you can say what you want about Conner Murray again,

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Speaker 1: he and Sam Darnold have been the two quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: winner or game manager at college. It just doesn't translate

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Speaker 1: to Sunday football. Okay, So Luca had fifty one last

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Speaker 1: night and the Lakers beat the Bulls, but that wasn't

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Speaker 1: actually asking a lot of Lebron James. So we talked

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Speaker 1: even last year with heavy Luca and Luca off an injury,

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Speaker 2: I said, this year is going to be different.

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Speaker 1: The difference between in shape, skinny Luca still in his

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Speaker 1: Lebron's going to have to learn for the first time

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Speaker 1: been streaking and inconsistent. But what really happened this year

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Speaker 1: that makes it even tougher for Lebron is that Austin

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Speaker 1: Reeves has popped and now Lebron should probably have the

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Speaker 1: ball as a third offensive option on the Lakers. So

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Speaker 1: to ask a guy that was face of the NBA

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Speaker 1: be off the ball with Luca, but Austin Reeves as well,

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Speaker 1: it is a big ask. I don't think Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: players are gonna do that. And the fact that Lebron's

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Speaker 1: always been about winning and he has and I've defended

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Speaker 1: him early when he used to not take the big

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Speaker 1: He had to go to Chris Bosch, Hey, get out

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Speaker 1: tell Kyrie Irving Bro I'm gonna carry the ball. You

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Speaker 1: have to play off ball. So everybody has sacrificed for

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Speaker 1: Lebron and should have his entire career, even Luke a

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Speaker 1: little bit last year. But this Lebron's different. His usage

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Speaker 1: you know, field goals taken per game lowest of his career,

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Speaker 1: wide margin. So this is what we talked about all preseason.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a weird year for Lebron. Face

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Speaker 1: the league to not only the second option, but net

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Speaker 1: know this year, when Lebron shoots more than twenty times,

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Speaker 1: Lakers are zero and three. When he shoots under twenty times,

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Speaker 1: they're twenty seven to fifteen. The numbers don't lie. But

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Speaker 1: I do think it's a big ask. I don't think

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Speaker 1: MJ would have done it. I don't think a lot

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Speaker 1: of stars that can still play at Lebron's level individually

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Speaker 1: I just think he deserves credit for committing to this

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Speaker 1: kind of basketball when he could score twenty four a

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Speaker 1: night for half the teams in the league or more.

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Speaker 1: And here was JJ Reddick after the win.

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Speaker 3: Lebron and I we talked. We had a great conversation

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Speaker 3: over the last couple of days. I think again, he

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Speaker 3: wants to do everything possible to help this team win,

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Speaker 3: and he understands the importance of making sure Luca and

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Speaker 4: And you know that's that's incredible of him. The team

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Speaker 4: is most important. You know, everybody successful when we win.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it is a sacrifice. I know what I'm

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Speaker 4: capable of still doing as an individual, but most important

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Speaker 3: Is only that matters.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting.

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Speaker 1: I was reading an article yesterday and they were talking

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick was talking about, I'm gonna need him to

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Speaker 1: set some screens. I've never seen screens in Lebron in

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Speaker 1: the same sentence before. Not that he's not capable of

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Speaker 1: doing it, but I'm defending Lebron here.

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Speaker 2: This is a big ask.

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Speaker 1: At some point on a show, I'm gonna be the

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Speaker 1: good as Lebron.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll pass it. But Lebron deserves credit.

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Speaker 1: Lakers playing well, and Austin Reeves has blossomed by the

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Speaker 1: fortunately right now Lebron sees it. Okay, there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. First of all, the Kyner Murray situation. What's

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Speaker 1: happening in the NFL is and boy, you're seeing it.

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Speaker 1: I said this yesterday. I think Kyler Murray is going

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Speaker 1: to be our Sam Darnold. Don't think he's going to

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Speaker 1: I have picked him as of this morning, and I'll

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Speaker 1: The Rams, they solved their dilemma corner Trent McDuffie top

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Speaker 10: I apologize to absolutely no one, period. I'm not losing

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Speaker 10: We're going to go for it. It was just an

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch it live. Tyler Hero and Norman Powell,

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Speaker 1: the Heat's other two leading scorers, were out of the game.

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Speaker 2: So who's gonna shoot? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The guy was seventy. I'm gonna probably give him the ball.

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Speaker 1: I love BAM's reaction, and I love suppose even more.

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Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 1: Total Pro Smart Guy. I love having him on the show.

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Speaker 1: Channing Fry is now joining US Live. After Luca dropped

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Speaker 1: fifty one last night, you and I were talking during

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Speaker 1: the break, Channing, as I had said before the season,

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Speaker 1: I said, this is gonna be the first time ever

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Speaker 1: where everybody has sacrificed for Lebron and should have. He

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Speaker 1: told Chris Bosh, go in the corner, Kyrie, playoff ball,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade, I'm gonna run the offense, and everybody did,

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Speaker 1: and everybody should have. And even last year when Luca

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Speaker 1: was off an injury and out of shape, it was

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Speaker 1: kind of Lebron's ecosystem, and I said, this year, it's

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Speaker 1: Lebron's gonna have to play off ball. Well, the problem

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Speaker 1: for Lebron is not only is he playing off ball

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Speaker 1: to Luca, he's playing off ball to Austin because Austin's

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Speaker 1: having the best year for an undrafted player, maybe of

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Speaker 1: all time. So, you know, Lebron, I think this is

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Speaker 1: a tough ask to ask a superstar. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan would have said, you know, I'm gonna play

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Speaker 1: off ball, like I think that would have worked. You

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Speaker 1: tell me how effective can Lebron be off ball?

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Speaker 11: Is there a better third option on a team like,

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Speaker 11: I don't think there is think about that.

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Speaker 6: It's like your best your.

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Speaker 11: Best player has their best defender, then your second best

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Speaker 11: defender guards Austin.

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Speaker 6: Reeves, and now who's guarding Lebron.

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Speaker 11: I think at the end of the day, we're having

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Speaker 11: this conversation because he's forty one and because Luca is

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Speaker 11: great and Austin Reeves is turning into that dude that

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Speaker 11: I think everyone sees.

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Speaker 6: But also I.

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Speaker 11: Think Lebron is okay with you know, you guys, take

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Speaker 11: this seat.

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Speaker 6: I got it here.

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Speaker 11: Like I think where he's the older he gets, the

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Speaker 11: less he can spread, the less longevity he can sprint.

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Speaker 11: So if you give him a playoff series, he might

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Speaker 11: not be so all ball, right, he may be the

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Speaker 11: guy that wins you a series. Think about the impact

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Speaker 11: Andre Guadala had for Golden State, right, He wasn't leading

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Speaker 11: them and scoring, he was leading them in almost every

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Speaker 11: other category, setting up the offense, being an anchor defensively.

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Speaker 11: But I think during the regular season, after doing this

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Speaker 11: for twenty two years, I don't know if he really

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Speaker 11: minds it as much, and I think he's learning to adapt,

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Speaker 11: So to me, that's what makes him scary. And think about, Okay,

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Speaker 11: Lebron had eighteen and you're third in the West, Like congratulations,

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Speaker 11: Like who would have thought?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: So if I defend SGA, and I say, the leading

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Speaker 1: scorer in the NBA in the eighties was not Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 1: it was Alex English. Okay, okay, now he played in

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Speaker 1: the high powered offense. But like SGA, it was leaning,

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Speaker 1: it was angle jumpers.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't dunks. It was getting to the free throw line.

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Speaker 1: And I think people bang on SGA because it's not

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Speaker 1: aesthetically pleasing. We love watching Dominique and Zion and Barkley

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Speaker 1: and Drexler. In not all games. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways to score points. Channing, Kiki Vandawayt scored a lot

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Speaker 1: of points. I don't remember any dunks. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of people call him a free throw merchant. He's averaging

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Speaker 1: eight made free throws a game. I'm like for his usage.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't seem outrageous to me? Does it to you? No?

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Speaker 6: Stop complaining and play some dang defense.

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Speaker 11: Stop it every time somebody is great, they're a free

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Speaker 11: throw merchant. Think about this, Joel embiid Lebron, SGA, who else?

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Speaker 11: Luka Jokic like every single MVP. Think about how many

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Speaker 11: times Jannis went to the free throw line?

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Speaker 6: Is he a free throw merchant?

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Speaker 11: Like when you're great, you create advantage that other people

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Speaker 11: can't stop. And you know who complains the guys that

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Speaker 11: are the defenders that can't stop them. Right, look at

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Speaker 11: jalb Jalen Brown's job is to defend your best player.

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Speaker 11: And when that player SGA gets to the free throw line,

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Speaker 11: he's getting a rhythm and so you're trying anything to

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Speaker 11: stop that. But isn't he the most efficient pull up

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Speaker 11: jumper guy we've seen almost ever?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Does he not?

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Speaker 11: His consistency over the years garners him to get to

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Speaker 11: the free throw line minimum ten times And maybe you

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Speaker 11: don't like it, but that's what the greats do. Jordan

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Speaker 11: did it, Kobe did it, Dirk did it. I mean,

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Speaker 11: d Wade got to the free throw line. It's part

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Speaker 11: of the game. Stop complaining. It's how he plays play

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Speaker 11: better defense. It's not as egregious as like when James

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Speaker 11: Harden was getting to the line, but they had to stop.

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Speaker 11: But think about what James Harden did to get an MVP,

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Speaker 11: Like you got to get to the free throw line.

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Speaker 11: You can't just shoot jumpers and layups all game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I defended Bam gonna bay you. I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 1: he had thirty one after the first quarter and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Herro late in the game. You know they didn't have

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Speaker 1: their other Norman Powell, Tyler Herrol, they're not in the

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Speaker 1: game late. He's got seventy with nine minutes to go,

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Speaker 1: and BAM's like, well, you think.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go for it. I'm at seventy

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Speaker 2: with nine minutes left. Again, Ben't here.

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Speaker 11: If Jesus was on that court, Bam Adebaio is getting

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Speaker 11: that ball?

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Speaker 6: What you allowed?

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Speaker 11: The Wizards allowed him to get seventy.

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Speaker 6: I'm shocked they didn't go for one hundred.

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Speaker 11: NBA players are greedy, especially a guy like Bam who

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Speaker 11: averages what is the average twenty two to twenty four.

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Speaker 11: For him to have the opportunity to go for seventy, man, listen,

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't have.

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Speaker 6: Shot the ball.

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Speaker 11: I would have set four screens for him shoot the

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Speaker 11: ball every single time. The minute of the team just

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Speaker 11: lays down and dies like the Wizards did that first quarter.

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Speaker 11: I was there when Kevin Love at thirty four in

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Speaker 11: a quarter he just didn't have the conditioning that Bam does.

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Speaker 11: And to get I watched every single shot sixty two

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Speaker 11: I think after three quarters, seventy.

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Speaker 6: One whatever he had. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Man, again, I don't care how you got to do it,

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Speaker 11: but the Washington Wizards.

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Speaker 6: Are allowing you to do this.

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Speaker 11: They've allowed you to think that that was possible because

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Speaker 11: they just laid down and didn't want to play defense.

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Speaker 6: They didn't want to commit to Sometimes you got to

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Speaker 6: take a tough foul.

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Speaker 11: Sometimes you got to you got to say, hey, we're

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Speaker 11: losing at football, or we're losing at basketball, maybe we're

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Speaker 11: going to play some football. And I know it's dirty,

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Speaker 11: but if you were on a veteran team, somebody would

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Speaker 11: have laid him out. And that's just things happen. So

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Speaker 11: congratulations of Bam. Is nothing unethical about that because he

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Speaker 11: had to shoot all those shots. So get eighty three,

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Speaker 11: get one hundred, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations the You know, we've talked a lot on this

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Speaker 1: show about the New York Knicks, and my favorite nick

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Speaker 1: of all time was Bernard King.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't you wing or Karmel.

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Speaker 1: I loved Bernard King, And I remember Dominique Wilkins saying

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Speaker 1: I didn't mind guarding Jordan. He goes, I couldn't sleep

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Speaker 1: at night if I had to guard Bernard King. You

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Speaker 1: could just put forty points down. There was no way

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Speaker 1: I was stopping him. But I think Jalen Brunson has it.

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Speaker 1: It feels like New York Villanova guy, high, iq, little, undersized, gritty,

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Speaker 1: He's got a New York field to him. He's a

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Speaker 1: tough guy. He's a Villanova guy. And I also think

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Speaker 1: Og Bridge's heart. I think Carl Anthony's crazy talented, But

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Speaker 1: there is there is an argument that they're missing and

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Speaker 1: once Hardenstein left like they lost defense. What do you

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Speaker 1: do when the team's really good? And how do you

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Speaker 1: go about maybe having to sit Jalen Brunson down and go, okay,

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Speaker 1: do we have to get rid of og Carl Anthony

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Speaker 1: draft picks to get Joannest. Do you go to Jalen

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Speaker 1: Brunson and ask him privately or do you just make

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Speaker 1: the deal?

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Speaker 11: You lay it out and you say, hey, this is

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Speaker 11: what we need for our future. To get an opportunity

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Speaker 11: to get yanis no offense to Og, Michale Bridges or

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Speaker 11: whoever else you're gonna pick.

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Speaker 6: Nobody is gonna be Yannis. Nobody's gonna be honest.

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Speaker 11: But again, are you sacrificing your future five, six, seven

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Speaker 11: years for a chance to win? But if I'm a GM,

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Speaker 11: give me Yannis on my team all day. My job

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Speaker 11: is to put the best team out there. And to me,

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Speaker 11: I looked at like, who the k next loss to?

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Speaker 11: I think they've lost the last four losses are to

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Speaker 11: like the Calves Pistons, Like they only have one bad

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Speaker 11: loss in a month and a half and everyone's like, well,

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Speaker 11: your defense is bad and you only lost to the Pacers.

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Speaker 6: I think, like way back in February sometime.

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Speaker 11: For me, I just think this team has really high

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Speaker 11: expectations they are. I think it looks like they're a

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Speaker 11: little disinterested in the regular season. Does nobody cared where

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Speaker 11: they are? They are interested in the off season, because

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Speaker 11: that is what everyone's going to judge them. I was

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Speaker 11: in New York when they went to the Eastern Conference finals.

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Speaker 11: The whole city was electric. I would be bored of

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Speaker 11: the regular season and couldn't wait till the garden is

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Speaker 11: rocking if I was in New York Knicks so right

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Speaker 11: now are.

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Speaker 6: They going to be looking kind of like, how can

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Speaker 6: we win.

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Speaker 11: Without doing as much as possible because we need to

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Speaker 11: be healthy for the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: I think that's what's happening.

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Speaker 11: So I'm not really taking it too much, more like

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Speaker 11: a grain of salt. I think the Knicks are competing,

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Speaker 11: but the East is turning out to be a monster

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Speaker 11: now because that matchup. You know, they may have the heat,

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Speaker 11: I think their third Let's say they go to they

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Speaker 11: played three to six, AMAMMI heat.

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Speaker 6: That's still going to be a tough matchup.

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Speaker 11: And then you look how Orlando's been playing now, Boston,

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Speaker 11: holy crap, the.

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Speaker 6: Calves when they're healthy.

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Speaker 11: You know, all these teams, it's just it's going to

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Speaker 11: be a monster in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 1: I want to circle back one more question Channing Fry

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Speaker 1: for our radio audience. One of my favorite guys thirteen

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Speaker 1: years in the NBA, played with Kyrie and Dwayne and

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Grant Hill there and I I threw this

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Speaker 1: out there, Lebron James is still really good individually in

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Speaker 1: the team construct with the Lakers, he shouldn't have the

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Speaker 1: ball as much, and I do wonder you know, Lebron

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Speaker 1: was very mobile and his messaging MJ made the sport global.

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Speaker 1: Lebron made it mobile that you had to at least

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Speaker 1: consider moving. And the downside to that is that you're

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Speaker 1: always like a consultant. You don't feel like a true

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Speaker 1: family member. K D's got this too. You kind of

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Speaker 1: bounce around the league and you did some of this.

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Speaker 1: You bounce around the league and you don't you missed

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Speaker 1: that Kobe, Derek Jeter, John Elway thing. Do you think,

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Speaker 1: going back and looking at everything for Lebron, if you

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Speaker 1: had to get inside his head and say, okay, you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have gone to the Lakers. You would have stayed

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Speaker 1: with Miami. You would have done Cleveland and Miami. Because

650
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Speaker 1: I look at Lebron and I think he may not

651
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Speaker 1: even get a statue because eight years you know now

652
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Speaker 1: it's minute restrictions.

653
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Speaker 2: He's got a COVID title.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Lebron has any regrets in his career

655
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Speaker 1: about his mobility?

656
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Speaker 11: Absolutely not, absolutely not. Like, look, they traded Luca away

657
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Speaker 11: in the middle of the night. Did you see the teams?

658
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Speaker 11: Now this is we talk about all time great. I

659
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Speaker 11: don't care if you got him one, two or three

660
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Speaker 11: on your list. Did you see the talent that he

661
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Speaker 11: was taken to the NBA Finals, So he is as

662
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Speaker 11: a player is supposed to just say, I trust you

663
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Speaker 11: with my career. He would have never been in the conversation.

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Speaker 6: Or that's not true.

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Speaker 11: He might have been in the conversation if he had

666
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Speaker 11: stayed in Cleveland, Mike, if he had never if he

667
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 11: because he went to Miami, because he won, because he

668
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 11: was on that floor that showcase with those guys, he

669
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Speaker 11: can now say, look at this ring, look at this ring.

670
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Speaker 11: When he came back, it was the right time for

671
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Speaker 11: him to come back to win a chip and then

672
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Speaker 11: go to the finals.

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Speaker 6: Four more times with that team, right and only one once.

674
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Speaker 6: Then going to La was like, hey.

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Speaker 11: This time has ended here because I see the riding

676
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Speaker 11: on the wall.

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Speaker 6: We're in the cap like.

678
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Speaker 11: We're on the on the apron. Now we have to rebuild.

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Speaker 11: It happens like look at Yannis right now. Yannas should

680
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Speaker 11: have left two years ago.

681
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and now look at the bucks.

682
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Speaker 11: So he's stuck there basically, and so is that good

683
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Speaker 11: for him? Think about Janis on the Knicks. We'd be

684
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Speaker 11: watching Yannis what going for a title?

685
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Speaker 6: Right now?

686
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Speaker 11: Jani's probably already got a jet burned up to go.

687
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Speaker 6: To back to Greece like it's it's not.

688
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Speaker 11: It's a different era with the salary cap, with all

689
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 11: these things. They traded Tyrese Halliburton what the first year,

690
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Speaker 11: second year of his career, who like what he didn't

691
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Speaker 11: want to do that, but think about now. He might

692
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Speaker 11: get a statue in Indiana when he's done unless something happens.

693
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Speaker 11: And I don't think I don't think it's says you

694
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Speaker 11: should just go to team the team, But I think

695
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Speaker 11: if you're strategic and your team goes to the finals,

696
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Speaker 11: or you're competing for a chip every year, then you're

697
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Speaker 11: making the right decision, especially if you're an all time great.

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Speaker 1: Channing, as always, it's great talking to you. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring it back as we get close to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I love having you on the show.

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Speaker 6: My man, appreciate you. Thank you guys, all right.

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Speaker 1: Channing Fry is just full wisdom and insight, and he's

704
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Speaker 1: played with great coaches and great players and that that

705
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Speaker 1: that to me, is the downside of kind of bouncing

706
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Speaker 1: around to the better jobs, is you're not like family

707
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: anywhere like and you know a lot of you watching

708
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: the show have bounced around for jobs and commerce, and

709
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Speaker 1: like there is sort of that like jell At, that

710
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: envy of the cul de sac, Like you lived on

711
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Speaker 1: the same cul de sac. You're barbecued with the same

712
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Speaker 1: families for thirty five years, and you know, you don't

713
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Speaker 1: get that if you're you know, chasing commerce. And that's

714
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Speaker 1: what Lebron did. John Middlecoff with the News.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, turn on the news.

716
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Speaker 5: It's the herd Line News.

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Speaker 12: Well, speaking of bouncing around, Mike Tomlin spent almost two

718
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Speaker 12: decades with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but he's going to be

719
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Speaker 12: a free agent. He stepped away and since stepping away,

720
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Speaker 12: we haven't heard much from him. And last night he

721
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Speaker 12: was at a Steeler event and he had some thoughts

722
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Speaker 12: on his tenure with the Steelers.

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Speaker 13: This often said, you know, we're not here for a

724
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Speaker 13: long time. We're here for a good time. Like you

725
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Speaker 13: have to choose, and you know, I think our experience

726
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Speaker 13: here in Pittsburgh and with the Great Steel Organization exemplifies that. Man,

727
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Speaker 13: we were here for a long and really good time.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to put it. I

729
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Speaker 1: do think at the end it was time for a

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Speaker 1: new voice. Whether McCarthy's the right voice. He is the

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Speaker 1: right side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: But I mean Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing when I think of Tomlin

734
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Speaker 1: is he was a great underdog coach because that leaned

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Speaker 1: into his motivation. Like if he went into a game

736
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Speaker 1: and nobody gave him a shot, that's when Pittsburgh was at.

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Speaker 2: Its most dangerous.

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Speaker 1: They always they weren't always great as a favorite, they

739
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Speaker 1: were very good as a dog. And I mean they

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Speaker 1: were always relevant under Tomlin, which in this league you

741
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Speaker 1: can't say that about. Outside of maybe the Packers or

742
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Speaker 1: Belichick's Patriots, a lot of teams aren't even relevant year

743
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Speaker 1: after year.

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Speaker 12: Well think about this, since O seven, he has more

745
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Speaker 12: wins than guys like Harbaugh, Andy Reid, Sean Payton.

746
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Speaker 14: What are those three guys have in common. They're all

747
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Speaker 14: on new teams.

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Speaker 12: You know, Belichick kind of got washed out of the league,

749
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Speaker 12: but those three guys, Sean Payton just in the AFC

750
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Speaker 12: Championship game, Andy re goes and wins Super Bowls. If

751
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Speaker 12: you tell me that John Harbaugh, and rightfully so, was

752
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Speaker 12: the number one target the Giants went all in. They

753
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Speaker 12: gave him a hundred million dollars. If Tomlin chooses who

754
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Speaker 12: knows he'd go have a Gruden of Madden. He could

755
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Speaker 12: be a TV star, But I think the NFL is

756
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Speaker 12: better with him in it. Yeah, don't you think he's

757
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Speaker 12: the clear number one candidate this next coaching cycle? In

758
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Speaker 12: the January of two thousand twenty, said well, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you know it's interesting because John,

760
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Speaker 1: you and I have discussed this, is that the NIL actually,

761
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Speaker 1: in most instances LSU is an exception firing Brian Kelly,

762
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Speaker 1: but the NIL keeps top college coaches in. If they're thinking,

763
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Speaker 1: you know, if Ohio State ever lost their mind and

764
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Speaker 1: thought we're going to get rid of Ryan Day, well

765
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Speaker 1: you've got twenty five million a year in NIL payments,

766
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Speaker 1: facility upgrades. You want to pay sixty eight million to

767
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Speaker 1: get rid of Ryan Day. I've said this about Lincoln Riley.

768
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Speaker 1: In a different era, Lincoln would be in trouble. They're

769
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Speaker 1: spending thirty million dollars on the USC payroll this year

770
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Speaker 1: and three hundred million on the facility. They're not writing

771
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Speaker 1: a seventy million dollar check. So the truth is a

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Speaker 1: lot of these college guys, who could you know, be

773
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Speaker 1: on the precipice of leaving. I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: stay in college. They've got big contracts, and so I mean,

775
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Speaker 1: either hire a hot co ordinator or you hire Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 12: And that seems pretty obvious to me. Yeah, like Signetty

777
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Speaker 12: makes thirteen million dollars a year. I mean he's college

778
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Speaker 12: goes to make huge money. I do think there are

779
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Speaker 12: two jobs to keep an eye on. He got his

780
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Speaker 12: career really kind of jolted early on before he became

781
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Speaker 12: a head coach Tampa Bay. If things get weird with

782
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Speaker 12: Todd Bowles and listen, Jerry Jones the Cowboys, if it

783
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Speaker 12: doesn't go great with Brian Schottenheimer. They've made a lot

784
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Speaker 12: of moves. I think Mike Tomlin is going to have

785
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Speaker 12: multiple offers in January of twenty seven. Okay, you and

786
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Speaker 12: I disagree on this one a little bit. I know

787
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Speaker 12: you're high on Kyler Murray in.

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Speaker 14: The Minnesota situation.

789
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Speaker 12: We can dive into it, but first let's take a

790
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 12: listen to Kyler and his draw from growing up a

791
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Speaker 12: Minnesota fan.

792
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Speaker 2: Ever since I started.

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Speaker 8: Playing tackle football I was seven years old.

794
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Speaker 6: I was seven years old.

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Speaker 8: Genuine, genuine fandom rare. You know, ran deep Vikings a

796
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Speaker 8: year through and through a lot of purple in my household,

797
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Speaker 8: got cried real tiers whenever, you know, whenever bred through

798
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 8: that interception, I've cried real tiers.

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Speaker 2: The how about that he loves football?

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Speaker 12: John, Well, here's my thing, Kevin O'Connell, his success as

801
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 12: a coach has come with pocket quarterbacks. You know, Donald

802
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 12: can move, but he did a lot of his damage

803
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Speaker 12: from the pocket. Same thing with cousins. Kyler Murray is

804
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Speaker 12: a mobile playmaker right well, and listen, there's no disputing

805
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 12: he's one of the great American athletes of all time.

806
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Speaker 12: He was the number one overall pick and the tenth

807
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Speaker 12: pick in baseball. Yeah, you know, so he is an

808
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Speaker 12: elite athlete.

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Speaker 14: But is he anymore?

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Speaker 12: He's had multiple lower body injuries. Is he's still quite

811
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Speaker 12: as fast?

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 12: He's five to nine, so he's not gonna stand there

814
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Speaker 12: like Sam Donald six' four and be able to see

815
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Speaker 12: this is Kevin O'Connell likes to pass, but he's gonna

816
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 12: have to do it a little bit different with this

817
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Speaker 12: type player. And my other question is that they got

818
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Speaker 12: him for free, right that they paid one three million dollars.

819
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Speaker 12: Would they have wanted him if he cost ten or

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Speaker 12: fifteen million?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, though, NEI I think that's a fair question.

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Speaker 1: I think what makes Malik will It's so attractive is

823
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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. Twenty two million dollars, and I like Malik.

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Speaker 1: I think concerns are legitimate. But this team won nine

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Speaker 1: games with JJ McCarthy, who is not a big, strapping

826
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Speaker 1: guy and also moves pretty well.

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Speaker 2: I guess my take is.

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Speaker 1: Arizona is on a short list, John, and I mean

829
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Speaker 1: a really short list of a dysfunctional place.

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Speaker 14: I mean it might be one.

831
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they've ruined a lot of good players,

832
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Speaker 1: good gms, and good coaches who have moved on and

833
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: done just fine with their lives.

834
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Speaker 2: I think the level of.

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Speaker 1: Dysfunction in Arizona is only rivaled today by Cleveland and

836
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Speaker 1: the Jets.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Vegas will become much less dysfunctional

839
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Speaker 1: this point forward. So I think you're gonna watch Kyler

840
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Speaker 1: and go oh, Kyler's in a good move. Kyler's a

841
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: little more verbal, Kyler's a little better, you know, more stationary.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is he felt like

843
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Speaker 1: he was metaphorically and literally running for his life in Arizona.

844
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Speaker 12: I'd imagine remember Ben Johnson did this with Caleb language,

845
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Speaker 12: the way you carry yourself, harped on that last year

846
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Speaker 12: in OTAs and in training camp. I would imagine that'll

847
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Speaker 12: be a big thing with Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, Okay, Last,

848
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Speaker 12: but not least, the Cowboys, who they've made a lot

849
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Speaker 12: of moves here right They've added edge rusher Rashaan Gary

850
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Speaker 12: from Dallas, who obviously had a lot of success with.

851
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Speaker 14: The Green Bay Picker Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 12: Gary played for the Cowboys defensive coordinator Christian Parker as

853
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Speaker 12: a rookie, and they're also reuniting him with Kenny Clark.

854
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Speaker 14: Jerry said the Cowboys.

855
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Speaker 12: Are not in the Max Crosby market right now, but

856
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Speaker 12: won't rule anything out. What do you think's going on

857
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 12: with all these Dallas defensive line moves? I mean, Colin,

858
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 12: they've had a ton from Micah to all these guys

859
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 12: to going after Max Crosby.

860
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Speaker 14: A lot of moving parts in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I will say this between Rashawn Gary, Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark,

862
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Speaker 1: Demarvin Overshown, and I think they're going to spend their

863
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: first two picks Sean. My guess is it will be

864
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Speaker 1: corner in safety or safety in corner. My take is

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Speaker 1: their front now is good. That's an above average front,

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Speaker 1: and because you're paying all those guys and those salary

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Speaker 1: cap hits go up, you got to get cheap on

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Speaker 1: the back end of your defense because, as you know,

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Speaker 1: Dak CD pickings that's expensive. So they're a very top

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Speaker 1: heavy franchise with seven guys eating all the cap. So

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Speaker 1: I think what they have to do. And they just

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Speaker 1: got a number three pick from San Francisco trading the

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman to the Niners. My take is their first

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Speaker 1: three picks will be back into their defense or maybe

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Speaker 1: a tight end with their number their third round pick,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're going to go heavy defense and

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Speaker 1: cheaping up that side of the ball.

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Speaker 14: Here's what I know.

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Speaker 12: We all like the Giants because of the coach, but

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Speaker 12: the quarterback has to prove that he could stay on

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Speaker 12: the field.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 14: The Cowboys offense is fantastic.

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Speaker 12: I mean, Dak has really turned into a consistent top

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Speaker 12: ten quarterback, really good player if their defense is just solid.

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Speaker 12: Like say what you want about Schottenheimer, his rapport with Dak,

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Speaker 12: the offense, the wide receivers would with George Pickens. Dallas

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Speaker 12: could be sneaky pretty good if their defense is solid,

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Speaker 12: because we know their offense is borderline elite. I mean,

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Speaker 12: who's to say they couldn't win ten or eleven games

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Speaker 12: next year and compete to win that division to be

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Speaker 12: a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the mystery team in that division to

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Speaker 1: me is Washington. Now, Philadelphia is too talented. If Sean

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Speaker 1: Manion's fine, they're gonna win double digit games. I think

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Speaker 1: the Giants are going to clearly double their win total.

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Speaker 1: And Dallas with this defensive front, should be competent. It

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Speaker 1: should be a competent team. Washington's the mystery. Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: had to replace his staff. You've got Adam Peters, who

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Speaker 1: is viewed by some as a basketball guy masquerading is

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Speaker 1: a football guy. I feel like I kind of know

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Speaker 1: what Dallas is gonna be. They're gonna move the ball,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a better pass rush. They don't have

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Speaker 1: an elite coaching staff, so they won't win a lot

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Speaker 1: of the close games, the situational moments, but they'll be

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Speaker 1: noticeably better on the defensive side.

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Speaker 12: One thing you know about the Cowboys, they nail a

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Speaker 12: lot of first round picks, and this year they got

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Speaker 12: two in the top twenty. They could be dramatically more

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Speaker 12: talented on defense come the start of the year.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff with the News