1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. Yeah, I went from the Elder Brothers 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: to cal King. We toured her out called Thoroughbred, which 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: was the follow up to Tapestry. Peter Asher saw me 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: playing with Carol and Peter approached me to play with Linda. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: And I was busy doing sessions here in La I 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: got a call from Jimmy Ivan's office saying they want 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: me to come play for Stevie's solo album. She'd been 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: in Fleetwood Max for years, but now she was going 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: to do her for a solo album, and she and 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: I have been together since then. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Take in a Walk podcast, the show 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: where your host Buzz Night talks with musicians and industry 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: insiders about the inspiring creative forces around music today. Our 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: guest is guitarist extraordinaire Watti Watzew. You know Wattie from 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: his career playing alongside music great such as Warren Zebon, 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 2: Linda Ronstad, Stevie Nicks, Rolling Stones and others, and he's 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: here to discuss his latest project in collaboration with other 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: great studio musicians, known as the Immediate Family, which is 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: also the subject of a new documentary of the same name. 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: Welcome Wati Wattel with Buzz Night. Next on taking a Walk. 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: What he welcomed to taking a Walk, the Virtual edition, 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: and congrats on Immediate Family the documentary and Immediate Family 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: the project. How did this project come about? And why 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: is it so special? 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for the welcome first of all, but appreciated 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: being here with you. It came about Danny Gorchmar had 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: a record deal. A Japanese label offered Danny a record deal, 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: and he wanted to do his record, so he figured 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: all of us would be out of town. But as 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: it turned out, Leland and Russell were in town and 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: they of course said yes, and I was on the 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: road with Stevie Niggs. But it was always It was 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: a three day weekend, and the guys went in on 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday, and I came home Saturday night and 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: joined them on Sunday, and we spent the whole day 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: just playing the remainder of the songs that were left 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: to track live, and I overdubbed on the other songs 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: that they'd done the day before. And as soon as 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: we started playing live, we all were just looking at 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: each other like, this is how it's always felt when 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: we played together. And it falls together so quickly and easily, 42 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and you know, it's funny with guitar players. A lot 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: of times you don't know where the other guitar player's 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: hands are going to be. But Danny and I even 45 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: when we first met, we've been doing it together for 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: almost fifty years, but when we first met, we instantly 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: went to a different part of the neck than I was, 48 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: and that he was, and we've always maintained that same relationship. 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: We always knew where the other brother was not going 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: to be on the guitar neck. And Steve Pastelle's style 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: is so different than both Danny and myself that it 52 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: was easy to fit his. He's a very finger based 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: guitar player, finger picking kind of style, which is neither 54 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Danny or me at all. So it was really a 55 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: good lock of three different guitars being able to play together, 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: because a lot of times three guitars playing together could 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: be a nightmare. But it worked very well right away, 58 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: and between Russell and Leland, Danny and myself having been 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: playing together for so long, it's just everybody just said 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: it's a band. It's a band. We said we should 61 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: make this a band, and nobody had any objection and Danny. 62 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: The Japanese label wanted Danny to tour. He goes, well, 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I can't tour it without you guys, it'd be ridiculous. 64 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: And Danny came up with the name. He says, you 65 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: guys are my families. We'll call it the immediate Family 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: who we all agreed. It was a beautiful day. 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: I love in the documentary to that scene with you 68 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: you guys walking through the Times Square area. That is 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: so sweet. 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool, thank you. Yeah, that's neat. Yeah. We 71 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: were playing at the Iridium at that view at that point, 72 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: and Anny and the crew came and filmed just down there. 73 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: It was wonderful. 74 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: Had you been a guy that was really keenly observant 75 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: of great players such as the Wrecking Crew guys you 76 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: mentioned Danny Tedesco, and he obviously did the great doc 77 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: on the Wrecking Crew, But had you been a keen 78 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: observer of their great work? 79 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh? Sure, I came. I moved to California in nineteen 80 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: sixty eight, and I started doing sessions right around the 81 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: end the sixty nine into seventy, and I got to 82 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: play with some of those guys, Mike Dacy, I never 83 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: did I knew hal Lane. We never did work on 84 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: a session together, but I worked with Joe Osborne, I 85 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: worked with Mike Dac, worked with Larry Nechtell, and these 86 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: guys were the guys, you know. It was an honor 87 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: and a treat to get to play with these people, 88 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: So I was very aware of them. Yeah. And then 89 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: as as the days and months went by, my name 90 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: got spread around town more and more and more, and 91 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I started working a lot. And the next thing I knew, 92 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: I met Leland on a session. It was for Bobby Womack, 93 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: the great Bobby Womack, and then Leland and I. So 94 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: there was the beginning of our immediate family. And a 95 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: few days later I met Russell cuncle, who was we 96 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: were driving. We were both driving a fifty seven Chevy Wagon, 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: and they came across each other in the middle of 98 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Santa Monica Boulevard and just kind of stopped and just 99 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: acknowledge each other, and Russell said, I gotta go, but 100 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be seeing a lot of you. And then 101 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: a few weeks later I got a call to play 102 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: for Lou Adler, and that's when I met Danny, and 103 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: it was Leland Russell, Danny and myself and the great 104 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: David Foster was playing piano, and that was the first 105 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: time the four of us played together, and right away 106 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: it was it was a lock instantly, and it's been 107 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: that way since that date. 108 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: Did you ever do any work or have anything encounter 109 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: with the late Jim Gordon? 110 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Oh? Sure, yeah I did. I did several sessions Jim. Yeah, 111 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I did a bunch of recording dates with them, and 112 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: I did a midnight special we played for Jackie DeShannon 113 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: and Jim was playing drums on that on that performance, 114 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I met Jim, I knew Jim. 115 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: What do you make of the tragedy of Jim Gordon? 116 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: Just horrible, horribly sad and tragedy. His tragedy is the 117 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: word I mean. Jim was always uh, he was a 118 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: different kind of guy. I didn't know him well, but 119 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: he was a suspicious kind of guy. He was always 120 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: observing from a from a different point of view, and 121 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: it was just I couldn't believe it. I still can't 122 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: believe it. You know, came out of nowhere. He was 123 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: a sweet, sweet guy. He had, like I said, he 124 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: came to he came and stuff from a different kind 125 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: of point of view, but he was always lovely to me. 126 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: He played drums like an angel, a beautiful drummer. So 127 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: it was out of nowhere. Like I said, I didn't 128 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: know him well, so I have no idea how he 129 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: was off time at home away from the studio, but 130 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: it was horribly shocking. 131 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: Is well, you were hired by a guy named Warren 132 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: Zevon to then be with the Everly Brothers, and tell 133 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: me about that first experience with Warren and the Everly Brothers. 134 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Well, I do you mean the audition I did for 135 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: Warren or the first gig with the Everlyas was there 136 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: at the audition? They weren't there. I was strictly having 137 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: to play for Warren, and that's where we met. And 138 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: it was a funny day because when I heard about 139 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: that gig, I knew that would be the gig for 140 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: me because I knew their materials so well. I knew 141 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: every song, I knew every guitar part, I knew every 142 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: vocal part. There was no way I wasn't going to 143 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: get that job. And so I get there and Warren 144 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: comes in and he had a definite attitude about being 145 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: the musical director for the Everly Brothers. I couldn't blame them, 146 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and I was replacing a great guitar player named Bob Warford. 147 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: And so the Warren said, okay, so here's what we're 148 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: going to do. We're gonna play this song once and 149 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: then you'll play it. And I said, okay, that's fine. 150 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: I said, but you know, you could really eliminate playing 151 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: it once and then me playing it because I know 152 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: these songs so well. He says, no, we're going to 153 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: do it my way. I said, okay, fine, And so 154 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a song called walk Right Back. And 155 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: when we when they played it at first and Sinny 156 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Warren started playing it, I'm sitting there going, he's playing 157 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: it all. He's not playing that figure correctly. So I 158 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: knew this was going to be an issue. And when 159 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: they got done, he says, okay, now you play it 160 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: with us. I said, okay, I will, but you're not 161 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: playing it right. And he goes, what do you mean 162 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: I'm not playing it right. I'm the Badley, I'm the 163 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: musical director. And I said, well that may be, but 164 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: it goes like this, and I played the figure the 165 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: way it goes. And the bass player who'd been with 166 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: the Evelee is a long long time. He goes, hey, 167 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: that's right, that's how it's supposed to be. So Warren 168 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: and I instantly we're like oil and water. And at 169 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: the end of the audition, he said, well, I guess 170 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: you got the job, you know, with this really you 171 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: know attitude, and he's also and at that point I 172 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: had a big a beard. He goes, You're gonna have 173 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: to cut that beard off, though I went what I said, Hey, man, 174 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: look it's the Evely Brothers. Tell me to shave my 175 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: beard off. I'll shave it off right then. But you 176 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: telling me to shave I'm not No, I'm not doing that. 177 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: So we were at odds with each other from the 178 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: get go, but at the same time we were always 179 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: musically fascinated by each other. And then the first gig came, 180 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: There's the Everly Brothers, and I'm so nervous just being 181 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: around these idols of mine, and it went beautifully. It 182 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: went great, and we had an amazing year together on 183 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: the road. 184 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: Great story. I first became hooked on your playing when 185 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: I saw you with Warren Zevon at the Agora Ballroom 186 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: in Columbus, Ohio, upon the release of. 187 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, Really Wow, excit of a boy tour had 188 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: to be Yes, I. 189 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: Was one of the greatest shows I ever saw. Can 190 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: you take me back how it felt like delivering that 191 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: to the audience? What was that like? 192 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh? Well, it was fantastic. I mean, first of all, 193 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: we were so proud of the record we had made, 194 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: and the songs on the record were unbelievably great. So 195 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: taking those songs to stage and they were all arranged 196 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: to be played live, they were you know, we cut 197 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: them lots in the studio. I mean, there were very 198 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: few overdose and some of the guitar solos are overdubs. 199 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: But you know, the tracks are the tracks. So you know, 200 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: we had a great fortune of being in Los Angeles 201 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: with the greatest musicians available, and so the band was myself, 202 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Rick Marauda, Stanley Sheldon on bass and jaguar we called him, 203 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: David Landau on the other guitar, and Warren and myself 204 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: and it was just fantastic. I mean, I have a 205 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: someone gave me a tape recording of a night from 206 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: that tour, and Warren was very blind drunk a couple 207 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: of times, so it got a little out of hand 208 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: here and there, but for the most part. Every show 209 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: was magic and it was just a great, great band 210 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: and we had a ball doing it, a good ballroom. Amazing. 211 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could still I could still see it, and 212 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: I could still smell it. 213 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I'm so glad you were there that. You know, 214 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: we only did one tour together and it was it 215 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: was really wonderful. 216 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 3: Was it true that you played a minor role in 217 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: the movie Poseidon Adventure? 218 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: It is true, a very minor role. I was in 219 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: the band, the band in this in the ballroom scene 220 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: when everybody got killed, you know, whenever, when the when 221 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: it got flooded, when the boat sank. But yeah, I 222 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: was in there with that big beard as a matter 223 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: of fact, and that was when the That was right 224 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: around the time the Evely Brothers. Because as a matter 225 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: of fact, I got a call from from Paramount one 226 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: day saying, we need you to come back and we 227 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: have to reach we have to shoot a scene where 228 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: the drummer dies and you're part of the scene. I went, 229 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, but I'm like, I'm in North Carolina 230 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: with the Evely Brothers and I can't leave this tour. 231 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm not coming back. So that was the same Beard 232 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: we're talking about, and uh, yeah, I was in it 233 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: all right, Yep, that was me. 234 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: Talk about some of the other great tours that really 235 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: left a mark on the fans and that you still 236 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: think about fondly that you were part of. 237 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean every every tour has been amazing for me. 238 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean why I went from from the Everly Brothers 239 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: and the next time I went out of town I 240 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: went with with with with my brothers with Danny and 241 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: Russell and Leland and Clarence McDonald was playing piano and 242 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: it was Carol King playing our own piano. Clarence was 243 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: playing a backup keyboard. But h yeah, I went from 244 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: the Elder brother to cal King. We toured her album 245 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: called Thoroughbred Thoroughbred, which was the follow up to Tapestry, 246 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: And then after that, Peter Asher saw me playing with Carol, 247 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: and Peter approached me to play with Linda, and from 248 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Linda I wound up playing with James and all the time. 249 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: Before all of that ensued. In nineteen seventy, I met 250 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: Stevie and Lindsay and we played on the I played 251 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: with them on their Buckingham Nick's album, their debut album. 252 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm part of that record, and so all of a sudden, 253 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: one day after James's tour and I was busy doing 254 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: sessions here in la I got a call from Jimmy 255 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Iven's office saying they want me to come play for 256 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: Stevie's solo album. She'd been in Fleetwood Mac for years, 257 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: but now she was going to do her first solo album. 258 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: And she and I have been together since then basically, 259 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: and the only time that we took a break. The 260 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: timing was so exquisite because that's when Keith Witch's called 261 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: that called me to tell me he's putting the band together, 262 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: and I'm the other guitar player in it. So it's 263 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: been an extraordinary wild ride. Buzz I can't even believe it. 264 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: Thank God, I love it. And tell me about how 265 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: great it was being with Keith. 266 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: Wells, Keith is the guy you think he is, and 267 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: we put it that way. You know, a lot of 268 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: times when you meet people, you have you have an 269 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: image built up in your mind who they would be 270 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: or how they would act, and whatever you think, whatever 271 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: you've envisioned about Keith, you're right, he's that guy. He's 272 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: a beauty, he's highly intelligent, he's incredibly funny. He's an 273 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: amazing guitar player. He is one of the most prolific 274 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: and successful songwriters the world has ever seen. I mean, 275 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: between him and Mick, that's the longest songwriting team in history. 276 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: You know, no one's done what those guys have done. 277 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: And we had a ball not unlike Danny and myself. 278 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: When it came to playing guitar. I knew exactly where 279 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: to go to play with Keith, where he wouldn't be, 280 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: and I knew what sound to use if he was 281 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: using a specific sound, I knew what sound not to use. 282 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: And we melded. We melded beautifully, and he calls it weaving, 283 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: and we weaved together. Just magic every time we play, 284 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: and it's an amazing honor and it's thrill every time 285 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: we get together. And he's a dear dear guy, a 286 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: dear dear friend. 287 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: What did you learn from the Keith experience or what 288 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: are you still learning from the Keith experience? And maybe 289 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: also you had the experience with you know, the Stones 290 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: and Saint of Me. What did you learn from that 291 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: as well? 292 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Well? You know, it's like every time you do something, 293 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: you're learning. I mean, I hope to learn something every day, 294 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: So I just I just go into a session and 295 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: try to do the best I can. Like like Russell 296 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: said at one point in our movie, was my whole 297 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: approach was just not to get fired. You know. That's 298 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: what you learn is bring something to the song that 299 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: will stick, and if you do that, maybe you'll be 300 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: hired again the next day. And that's how it is 301 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: for us, you know. But it was funny. I'm doing 302 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: the Keith part on saintan Me. Then I saw the 303 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: video and there's Keith doing, you know, playing my part. Well, 304 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: that's funny. That's different. 305 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: Well, in closing, if you could have a dream session 306 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: with someone living or dead that you've wish you could 307 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: play a session with, who would it be. 308 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: Well, that's a really hard question. Let me put it 309 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: this way. I've yet to meet Paul McCartney. I didn't 310 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: meet John Lennon, but to play in the studio with 311 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: either of them would be a dream come true. That 312 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: would That would sum it up pretty well. I think 313 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: there's so many names I could name, but uh, that 314 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: was that was that would take a good front seat, 315 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 316 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: Buzz Yeah, definitely, Well, Waddie, it's such an honor to 317 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 3: talk to you, man. Congratulations on everything, and congrats on 318 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 3: immediate family, the project, the doc. It gets our Taking 319 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: a Walk stamp of approval, and I'm honored to have 320 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: the opportunity to talk with you. Waddie. 321 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: Oh please, I so appreciate that buzz. 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