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Speaker 1: why don't we talk about some of your favorite dogs?

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Speaker 1: And I also want to talk to you so about

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Speaker 1: your breeding. I started telling you about showing the best

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Speaker 1: le Roy and I guess just tell you the truth

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Speaker 1: that over the years and the dogs and stuff that

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Speaker 1: But now he is a good buddy, and he would

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Speaker 1: now he was a good. But now when you killed

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Speaker 1: He wasn't gone five minutes, wasn't until he called back.

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Speaker 1: He said, baring the trail, baring the trail, and he

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Speaker 1: turned down. Dogs list at bar, run out right in

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Speaker 1: turned down, loose. I turned the rest of them loose

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Speaker 1: right towards you, my fire, I said, the rest of

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Speaker 1: If he to the race you again. Well, they didn't

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Speaker 1: For to hear them dogs, they cut their own self

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Speaker 1: I know, Josh called back. He said, he said, they've

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Speaker 1: what long did you call back? And he said, it's

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Speaker 1: it till I get there. So here, I went up

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Speaker 1: may not make it. I mean it's possible. Out of

428
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: a literate ten dogs, not all of them are gonna

429
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: be dogs that you keep forever and hunt and want

430
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: to breed to. But a real good line has a

431
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: much higher percentage of dogs that are gonna make and

432
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: inside of that make category quote unquote you know dog

433
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: that makes your pack. Yeah, there's gonna be some that

434
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: are just phenomenal. And then and and those are the

435
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: ones that Roy's talking about that are hard to come by.

436
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: Those are those trail dogs that you just depend on

437
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: and depend on. Um. But powder was that powder was,

438
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, and anybody's got dogs like we've got, you know,

439
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 1: thirty dogs, always talking about you're gonna run into an

440
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: accidental breeding that you didn't intend to happen. That's where

441
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: Outer came from. Two dogs bred together, tied close to

442
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: each other, and she was the only one that made it.

443
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: Um the other propos so that wasn't even that wasn't

444
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: even on purpose. And it was probably in our lifetime,

445
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: the best one we've ever hunted with um and we

446
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't even get to see her full potential. Yeah, and

447
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: now that's a great example. Roy told me the story

448
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: on the way up here. I mean, he wasn't even

449
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna keep those pups. So this young female got bread.

450
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: It was a buckskin female. Young buckskin female got bread

451
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: accidentally by just and it ended up producing one of

452
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: the best dogs had. Yeah, yeah, but I believe y'all

453
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: were going to Canada. I believe they were going to

454
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: Canada when she was born. And now was it Wisconsin?

455
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: You were gone somewhere because I was the only one

456
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: here and the mama wasn't producing milk. I told Jamie

457
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: about it. So he got the one puppy that was

458
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: alive and took it up er and raised her. No,

459
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: I told you to go up here. I told you

460
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: to go up and see how many and get them puffed.

461
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: Well you went up or got him. You come back

462
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: with two deadnings to the bone, with two deadenings, and

463
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: that one mild teethe and and and one black. And

464
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: I had some breadle on me and uh, and you

465
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: said there's another numpire alive, and you said it looks

466
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: funny too. Well, I said, go get here and see

467
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: what it looks like. So he goes and get chid

468
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: and brings it down there and hit some mild teeth brown.

469
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: So I said, well, we'll just keep at just put

470
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: it back in our weather. But you wanted to give

471
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: it no milk. So it went on to three days

472
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: and every day is getting poor, and it was be

473
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: out the house and it just be a squall, and

474
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: so Breeze said, Papa should take it to the house

475
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: and see if we can raise you. So we brought

476
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: it up here and I got it to eat a

477
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: little bit, and to eat a little bit. We're going

478
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: to Canada. So Jamie said he'd take it and and

479
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: and food with it firm, and so that's what he done.

480
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: Didn't want to tell me what. It's a powder blue,

481
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: light blue looking color. Um think of the San Diego

482
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: Chargers powder blue uniforms. And that's where her name comes from. Powder.

483
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: It's a really light shade of it's a really unique plot.

484
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: These plots are uh, they're black, They're they're black brettle.

485
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: I've seen that Brendle that you mentioned the Maltese. It's

486
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: just standing up at you. We're looking for something like

487
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: the picture here. I wanted to explain some Maltese plot

488
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: would be of a unique, very unique color, I mean,

489
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: perier than the Maltese. And the reason I thought she

490
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: was a lot prettier on my ald Tasio when she

491
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: was in my ald tsi alla print she had them

492
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: yellow and that which that made her look a lot

493
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: better didn't. And actually there's a picture two of her

494
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: in our Matthew, So we we started that story about

495
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: powder though we're talking about breeding. There she is, but

496
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I might confined a decent picture. Ever, I don't. Yeah,

497
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: she is pretty beautiful, Oh she was pretty. Is that

498
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you're breeding two top dogs don't produce reproduce themselves.

499
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: And Mr Roy said that sometimes you have no But

500
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm just now, I ain't for breeding a female. It

501
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: ain't a good. I ain't for breeding a female. It

502
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: ain't a good. In Michika, I think that female does

503
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: a lot to him. Do you think the female is

504
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: more important than the male? Yeah? Yeah, there she is, Yeah,

505
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: almost a silvery gray color. Yeah, produbal um. So what

506
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: else about breeding well, I just think that what I've

507
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: done and a breeding the Gant dogs actually uh Leroy

508
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: was full gant and virus three quarter gain. So actually

509
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: breeding them dogs back into these dogs down here, and

510
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: actually breeding to March dog of fire and having mane

511
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: and breeding him to her and and Hi Rhobin in

512
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: their quarter and stuff and and and and everything. I

513
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: believe it. I take it to produced that some good dogs,

514
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: don't you, And I mean some pace dogs too. That

515
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: that was what I was trying to get him to

516
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: get to while Ago was the speed um. And I'm

517
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something about speed. Now, speed will kill

518
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: more buyers than anything. You can have speed with them,

519
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: but college I'm on the shape. That's sixty percent of

520
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: you buyers. If you catch them going tree, your dogs

521
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: catch up if I can catch them. So in my opinion,

522
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: if you've got the speed, then you wind up with

523
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: with tree and more buyers then you will with anything

524
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: if you've got speed when you put hit in there.

525
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Just first of all, uh, with these dogs that, like

526
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: I said, we've talked about, with their trailing and and

527
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: rigging and stay and stuff. Uh, it makes it fun,

528
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, to go to the woods and hunt with

529
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: these dogs, knowing that there's probably a ninety nine point

530
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: nine percent chance and you find a buyer track that

531
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: the end resultsly they're gonna be It's it's just more

532
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: or less it's gonna be caught, you know. So it's

533
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: a satisfying you know, with that part being said. And uh,

534
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: you know another thing too, Uh really yeah, I'll tell

535
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: this on him. He never been much of the morning person.

536
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: You know, we're always you know, eigger to go. He's like,

537
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: he's like, what is He said, you know you got

538
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: he got good trailed and obviously said you don't have

539
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: to get up early. He said, we go, we can

540
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: go find a bar tracks. Don't worry about it. He said,

541
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: you don't want to get up early. You know he's

542
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: talking about for a trail, trailing wise and find a bar.

543
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, you know a lot of people without

544
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: no nose and and uh yeah, and like I said,

545
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: there's the most competition around here, you know it. It

546
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: is hard to get ahead of other hunt groups because

547
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: they live so much closer to the areas we hunt

548
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: besides here right at home, you know. So but still

549
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: uh when we roll in, you know, they they they

550
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: dread seeing us come and put it that way because

551
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: they know when we come, you know, we we pretty

552
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: hell men and being business you know. So it's a

553
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: it's a it is kind of like a competition. But yeah,

554
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: that's that's the fun part about it. I love I

555
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: love that part. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna tati something

556
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't forgot whit would I'm gonna saying. I'm gonna

557
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: say it has something to do with the A. C.

558
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: D C. Or the boys is back in town. Oh yeah,

559
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: I know how they're can say. Now, well, we look

560
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: for a track where most of them their lights on

561
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: the dog when they're gonna strike one, or it ain't crossed,

562
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: or it ain't trailable, and hits. I'm telling how many

563
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: we jump that that they don't. They just pish up

564
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: and go on because you're looking for a trash Because

565
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: we're looking for a track. Yeah, on the ground, on

566
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: the ground, on the bank anymore we can see it.

567
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, haunt when we find it and

568
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: we get on it, it's had a bad day, ain't.

569
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you either kill it or don't kill it.

570
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: And what you're describing there is that a lot of

571
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: guys are rigging dog driving through these areas hoping that

572
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: their dogs bark on a fairly hot track that can

573
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: be smelled in the air. You guys are coming through

574
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: behind them, and maybe your dogs don't rig I mean,

575
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: because maybe the tracks that old. You see where it

576
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: went down the bank, and that's where that's where the

577
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: art and skill and the hunter side of this thing

578
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: really shows through. That's what that boy that I just

579
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: told you about a while ago couldn't believe. He said,

580
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen nobody doing nothing like it. He said, Oh,

581
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm used to is pulling up to a bait and

582
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: turning three truckloads of dogslution hoping they jump a byre.

583
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: He said, that's kind of hunting I used to. And

584
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: so you are seeing where I mean, you're seeing things

585
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: that people won't see unless your eyes are highly attuned

586
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: and trained to it in in in your where these

587
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: bears are crossing roads, just going off banks, going up ditches,

588
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: and then you're putting dogs on it and you're catching

589
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: a bear. That's what you mean when you say you're

590
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: catching Sometimes we may turn three or four dogs showy,

591
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: and and that is if we ain't having to save

592
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: trail dogs. But if we do that and they jump

593
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: in damn old dogs, they get snatched up and put

594
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: back in the truck just as soon as you can.

595
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: But now we don't turn a whole bunch of dogs

596
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: lootion and and stuff till till the virus jumped, and

597
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: then we put them where they need to be and

598
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: start catching the old dogs. That's what we do. Yeah,

599
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: And and there ain't many people hunching like that, no

600
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: more are they really hard? Did nobody? That's where us

601
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: see the phone of it up is actually hunting that

602
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: truck and using your dog to jump at the bar

603
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 1: and tree that bar, you know, instead of you're lying

604
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: on a barrel to attract the bar bars in you know,

605
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: earned loose, but actually going out in the woods and

606
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: find that track. And also, you know, which boys told

607
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: me a lot about tracking a buyer. You know, which

608
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: way is it broke a lim or you know some

609
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: areas it's really tough, you know, to tell which way

610
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: is it going? You know, And that's that's the kind

611
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: of Yeah, and I just take a trip about that.

612
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: I believe be Sports has learn more about it, and

613
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: I know I believe I believe they can tell you

614
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: which way when you're going better than I can. But

615
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: it comes from him. Yeah, it all came from him

616
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: and teaching us that skill, you know, you know, And

617
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: that's that's a good point because you know, you you

618
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: take Matthew, one of the best trackers around about picking

619
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: out a buyer track, and you take Scott and Michael

620
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: and Dad and some of these others that are they're

621
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: gonna go get in front of those dogs. And that's

622
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: why Roy says, with dogs and my boys, you know,

623
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna catch the bars because we all kind of

624
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: know our jobs and what our roles are and what

625
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: we're good at and and uh, you know, and that's

626
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: the fun in it for us. And and it don't

627
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: matter to me if Matthew kills the bar, Scott or

628
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: or who. It's all about the teamwork and it's it's

629
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: it's a team win. You know. That's a great point

630
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: that most big game hunters don't understand. Nine percent of

631
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: big game hunters don't understand. When I was with you guys,

632
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: um and we killed well, I guess I was here

633
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: for three I think three, but maybe five. I was

634
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: at three bear kills. I think is that kids shot

635
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: a bear out of the tree, and I mean it's

636
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: his bear. He killed this bear. Well, he ended up

637
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: walking out of the woods, as I remember, and everybody

638
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: that was there at the tree, I mean he had

639
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: to go for some reason or something. And uh and

640
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: and everybody else took care of that bear hauled at

641
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: a mile and a half out of the woods. Um.

642
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean, whoever kills this bear, yeah, they may get

643
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: the hide or however it works out. But the meats

644
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: split up people. It's not just like, well you killed

645
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: the bear, good luck, we'll see you tomorrow. I mean

646
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: we took those bears back to back to somebody's house

647
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: over here, and everybody was there. They were a wife

648
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: and kids there, everybody skinning those bears. I mean, it

649
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: truly is a group event. And it it really doesn't

650
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: matter who kills the bears that we try to like

651
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: your Orion's kill them pace. Somebody can get to the

652
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: tree or something that especially if it's gonna stay there. Yeah. Now,

653
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: a lot of bears we killed. When your cheers on

654
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: the ground, we didn't handle charge to about who killed them. Right, Well,

655
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: I'd say that's pretty that's pretty unique, Scott. Once you

656
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: let Scott have that for a same here, Scott. No, no, no, Roy,

657
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: I want you to keep it on. You keep it on,

658
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: You keep it on. Scott. What would you Uh well,

659
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean what would what have what needs to be

660
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: said that it hadn't been said yet? You just covered

661
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: it pretty good. I get more to join them down

662
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: the dogs and fooling with the dolls and stuff and

663
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: seeing them do good. But you know, it's fun hunting too.

664
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: But that's why I get my enjoyment out of, you know,

665
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: seeing the dogs look good and them do good. Yeah,

666
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: that's what I like the best part of Batty. Yeah,

667
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's good. It's really good. If you're

668
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: for you get to hear him trail and then you

669
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: hear you hear him start squalling out if they jump

670
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: that barre. Now that that'll excite you about as good

671
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: as kill on the barway. You can't get no better tonight.

672
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: And that's what's all. Yeah, getting to see him raised

673
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: up from puppies and all up and doing all the

674
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: stuff you do with your puppies as they're growing up,

675
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: and and then getting to see that finished products a

676
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Mm hmm mm hmm. Well, uh, Scott,

677
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: I know you play a big part of of this

678
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: over here, feeding these dogs and everything. Um, what would

679
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: you uh, how would you how would you describe? How

680
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: would you describe Roy Clark? For me? You can't ask

681
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: for a better person. I couldn't ask for a better

682
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: far in long m hm. You know he's good to

683
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: me everything. Yeah, yeah, mother and all she's get to me.

684
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: We have we have her differences, but she's getting to me.

685
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: Tell but really I can nattional better person. You don't

686
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: be ada on stuff I've well, I've been around in

687
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: twenties saving you. That's when you saved me. And like

688
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: I said, I couldn't ask you know when he's good

689
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: to me stuff and whatever and yeah, you know, like said,

690
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: and I get the Joel with out of dogs, you know,

691
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: being around him, get learned what we learned. We all

692
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: learned a lot. For wait, I'll take these dogs down

693
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: here and to beat all of our dogs. You know

694
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: that just Teddy is Yeah, come say this into the mic. Ms. Brenda, Okay,

695
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: your your daughter, Yeah, Brenda's daughter, Jill Scott's wife. She

696
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: really loves to hunt. Oh yeah, she goes with the

697
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: all time. Yeah, she needs to be over here and

698
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: her mouth Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what I think

699
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: is is unique inside of this is that there's there's

700
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: there's generational layers inside of you know, if we could

701
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: just take Laurel Mountain bear hunters here, you know, there's

702
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: there's generations that are represented at least three maybe four

703
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: and uh and and there's a there's a structure inside

704
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: of that that's that's uh. I mean, you guys respect

705
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: you respect Roy, respect these older guys and and uh

706
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: and and they and you don't just respect them, but

707
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: they've taught you guys so much. And here Mr Roy

708
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: says that y'all are better than him a lot of stuff.

709
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's the way it's supposed to work.

710
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, not just in bear hunting, but in life.

711
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to work. It's supposed to

712
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: it's supposed to work that that there's that there's I mean,

713
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: life is designed that we learned stuff from those who

714
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: have gone before us, those who we choose to give

715
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: our respect to. And and they teach you about life,

716
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: you know. And I tell you, Dave, boys is growed

717
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: up into bar hunting and and and when when they

718
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: kild or when they let them go and all that

719
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Every should have been babies. And I'm

720
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: telling you you you can beat them. I mean there

721
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: may be somebody some hark out something is good, but

722
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna beat this shat fit here when you

723
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: turn on the bar and when he gets jumped and

724
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: we have a good time too. Uh, we don't hand

725
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: an arguments. We don't hand on nutting, and we actually

726
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: don't hand no drinking period and and and hit. It

727
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: actually turns out to be good, don't he and stuff?

728
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, uh, you don't put up with

729
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: any He doesn't put up with any any monkey business,

730
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: does he know? But that's what you all a bat.

731
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: I was hunting. That's the joyment of it. And if

732
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: everybody having a good fellowship and going hunting, having a

733
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: good time, it ain't worth the going just because you're

734
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: gonna get an argument with somebody or you're gonna be

735
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: my ad ward. I'm like coming, that's what's for it.

736
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: Taught all back having a good time. You ain't gonna

737
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: waking no money, eddie. So if you're going out there

738
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: to have a good time, they're talking little stay at

739
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, he's the only want to make any money.

740
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: I hope he does. Hope he does, and I hope

741
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: he Uh that's good, I do. Hey, did y'all know

742
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: that Mr Roy's video? Y'all's video rolled over five hundred

743
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: thousand views on YouTube since yesterday. Yeah, hey, keep that on,

744
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: keep that on. Mr Roy. He's trying to take his

745
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: headset off. Yeah. Yeah, well that's I'd say that. That's uh,

746
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: that's uh. You know what I want to do is

747
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: I want to tell you got a story, you know.

748
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have I'd never bare hunted with hounds.

749
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not something we grew up doing over there,

750
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: Now we did. I did grow up with hounds, so

751
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: I had a love for hound sports. And that was

752
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: really my connection point is it's it's it's different, but

753
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: it's the same, you know, if you're if you appreciate

754
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: hounds and whatnot. And and I think I think this

755
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: lifestyle has value that people don't understand. And it's easily misunderstood,

756
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: I mean really easily misunderstood. It may not be misunderstood

757
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: in East Tennessee as much as it could be on

758
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: a national scale. And and that's where I mean, really,

759
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: and it doesn't even make sense but that's where my

760
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: passion is and that's the reason I drove twelve hours.

761
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: One direction to come here for this podcast is I

762
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: think what I see here is something that's that's valuable,

763
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: culturally valuable and um and I want to see it

764
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: go on for generations to come. And the only way

765
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: that I think we're gonna survive inside of the climate

766
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: of the current cultures if we tell our story, if

767
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: we tell our side of the story, we interpret this

768
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: thing for people so that they see value in it,

769
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: because it's very easily misunderstood. I mean, we it's just

770
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: so you guys know what I'm talking about. It it's

771
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: very easy to misunderstood, misunderstand. It's very easy to tell

772
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: a story that's not true about what bare hunting with

773
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: hounds is and what this produces. I'd take if I

774
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: and and it's just something probably to say, and it's

775
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: probably something a lot of them my thinking ain't right,

776
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: and some of them may not like it when you

777
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: say it. But if you had to go out here

778
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: and buy every bire dog your head, to me, it

779
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't even be worth even hunting if you had the

780
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: money to do. Dad, I mean, I get the enjoymentality

781
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: making these dogs what I can and and that's what

782
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: I get out abby. But now if I had to

783
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: go buy dogs, I don't take out in George's good

784
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: And I just tell you the truth. And I ain't

785
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: saying I ain't never bought a dog. I don't know

786
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: if I ever not. But huh, you know, you bother,

787
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: we don't have well, they were just bloodline. We don't

788
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: want to discuss that they were just bloodline anyway. And

789
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: I have bought a young dog or two. But we've

790
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: made what buire dogs we've had, We've made them our

791
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: chaf and I think that's something to be proud of. It.

792
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: It's a craft. It's you money can't buy. Money can't

793
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: buy this. The richest man in the world can't come

794
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: and buy what has taken seventy years to build. That's

795
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: the truth. They didn't go buy a Lamborghini, but they

796
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: can't go by Clark's Laurel Mountain plots. And that's I

797
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: think that's something's valuable. But you guys, thanks to let

798
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: me let me jump in here one and say something

799
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: about roy to to say, my my part um. You know,

800
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: he wears a lot of hats in our group, um,

801
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 1: the leader being the number one, but in the reader

802
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: and UM, he gets caught a lot of things on

803
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: the radio, some of them we probably shouldn't repeat. Um,

804
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: but you know we joke about him being the king.

805
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: We joke about him being a legend. UM, an icon.

806
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: You know, we've just escalated the over the years that

807
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, YouTube video came out. You gotta be a

808
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: icon now. Well, Uh, you know most of all Clay

809
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: and Matthews hit on this, Scott has dad, has all

810
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: these guys here showed up. He's our he's our He's

811
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: just like our dad. He's just like our papal. He's

812
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's a friend. He's he's our mentor. You know, Um,

813
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: it's not just about bar hunting. It's about how I

814
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: raised my son, how how Matthew raises his um, you know,

815
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: to be that next generation to come on and not

816
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: just as bar hunters, but as people. And uh, you know,

817
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: we're proud of our community and we're proud of the dogs,

818
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: and we're proud of the hunting, but we're proud of

819
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: each other and the friendship that's we've created and and

820
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: had over the years. Um, and it's it's friendships that

821
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: will last lifetime. You know. To always said it well ago.

822
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: We don't have arguments and fights, and not that we

823
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: don't disagree at times, and not that he don't make

824
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: us mad sometimes or whatever. But at the end of

825
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: the day, it's a love for each other. I can't remember,

826
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: but one time I'm saying chuthing hateful to him, and

827
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: one time I'm saying chuping hateful to him. Now that's

828
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: all I can remember. I might have more, but I'm

829
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: talking about I'll say a little hateful to him that time.

830
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: I can't tell you when it was reported us, but

831
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I bet you guys remember well, And that's a good

832
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: that's a good point to say. I know how he

833
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: treats you, guys, and what he really thinks of you guys,

834
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: And you guys know it too, or you wouldn't be right,

835
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: you know. And I wanted to say that just you know,

836
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when it all comes

837
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: together way, whether we catch a bear, whether or not,

838
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, we've we've had a great time. But we

839
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: love Roy and that's why we're here and that's why

840
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: we do this, and uh, you know, we want to

841
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: see it go on for years to come to your point.

842
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: So we we thank you for coming and sharing our

843
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: story and his story. Yeah, well it's neat um. Hey.

844
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: Every okay, every podcast I closed by saying I have

845
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: a phrase that I say, and I'm gonna try to

846
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: get Mr Roy to say it. Okay, okay, So this

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Speaker 1: is what I say. This is what I say. It's

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Speaker 1: like the tagline of the podcast. I say, keep the

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Speaker 1: wild places wild because that's where the bears live. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I say. I say, keep the wild place

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Speaker 1: and wild because that's where the bears day. But that

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Speaker 1: ain't that ain't what happens here all the time They

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Speaker 1: building houses and hey, that you nailed it. That is

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Speaker 1: exactly what's happen and all across the country urban sprawl.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to close the podcast, and that we just

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Speaker 1: oh under Gandlingberg. The baby bears right up beside chain

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Speaker 1: link fence with house dogs in here and nipping it.

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Speaker 1: Bars stood to chain link fence, and the bears bade

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Speaker 1: up against the fence and then they'll walk right on

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Speaker 1: up end of the road and walk into the trace

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Speaker 1: and maybe there's four or five dogs are barking at

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Speaker 1: this five hundred pound byar and he'll reach in there

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Speaker 1: and get him a bay and how are you'll come

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Speaker 1: with it? Put it in his mouth, and right down

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Speaker 1: the middle of the black top road he'll walk with

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Speaker 1: that bike. And I'm dogs are barking that that's something