1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: What's good, guys. I am Jordan's Omley. This is eating 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: while broke check the apron. I'm with my good friend 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Colleen Witt, who I've known for a long time, one 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: of the first people I met out here in l 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: A when I moved from Seattle. So I'm really happy 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: to be here. And I'm a producer, musician, singer, songwriter. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: UH do a little bit of everything, saying wrap cook, 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: So today we are making one of my favorite things 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: to make, and a great meal to make if you 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: don't have a big budget, which is breakfast burritos. Because 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: when I moved to Seattle, they turned me out out 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: here and let so I've got hash Brown's going right now, 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: which kind of take the longest to make, so I've 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: had those cooking for a minute. I've got my spicy 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: refried beans going right here, which actually I'm gonna add 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: some cheese because cheese and beans is, you know, two 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: of the best words in the English language, So we're 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna get that going. I've got um jalapeno. I've got 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: some red onion going over here. That's a flavor combination 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: that I use and I don't know most most of 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: what I cook unless it's specific to like a region. 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm always cooking with peppers and onions, So I've got 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: that going. Uh. And then we've got some Colleen didn't 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: know what this was, which is hilarious to me. So 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: if you live in l A and you don't know 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: what dys so is, you just ain't doing it. I 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: heard the word guy. We had it was off camera. 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: She looked at this thing like a like a cow 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: at a new gate. I didn't know what to expect. Um. 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: So this is beet theresa, which is a must um 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: for breakfast burritos in my opinion. Although you can make 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: them with whatever chicken. You could do a vegetarian, you 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: could do a soada, whatever you like. But for me 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: is the way to go. Um. And then we got cheese, salsa, 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: we've got eggs, we've got avocado. Um. You know, it's 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: not one of those dishes that's super complicated. I think 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: it really is just about getting ingredients that you think 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: work well the other and all this stuff is it's 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: good together. And I'm not I'm I'm completely not shocked 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: that your dish would come with all these ingredients because 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: I've eaten at your house and You're a real You're 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: the real deal. I like to cook. I grew up 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: around like Dad is an incredible cook, so I just 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: grew up around it. I've always loved to cook and 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: I love to eat. So now that we kind of 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: have the basis of your meal, I'm gonna saw this. 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: I just want to get to know you more. Um. 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: And uh, it's a little smoky in here, guys. So 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: if I choked up, no one judged me because I'm 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: one of those people that every burner and if they 51 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: had another burner, I'd have that one going too. So 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: we're working in here today. We are definitely working in here. 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: So um, Jordan's has worked, like I said, with the best. 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: But one of the most amazing things about Jordan's story 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: is how you got your start. Tell us about it. 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I know I had something to what your day job 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: actually right, Well, yeah it did eventually it did. Yeah. 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: Like I said, I was, I was rapping at a 59 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: young age and I was Um. I was signed when 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: I was fourteen years old to Sony form a development 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: deal and I got in the studio actually in Seattle 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: with Sir mix a lot when I was really young 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: and Sir mix a lot kind of took me under 64 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: his wing, introduced me to a lot of people, and 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: I ended up on tour with Snoop and Mystical and 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Digital Underground, and I was like, you know, live in 67 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: a high school life, um, singing in choir, and then 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: I was on the road, like rapping with these legends. 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: But how did you in the crossing paths with them 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: if you're in Seattle? Mix a lot knew these dudes, 71 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: so they would come to they would come to Seattle 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: to do shows, and then Mix would take me to 73 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: the shows. He'd introduced me to him with my boy 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: the Dog, who was someone like a local kind of 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: a local legend up in Seattle, and the Dog kind 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: of put me in touch with all these dudes. And 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: then I started doing show was with them, and um, 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: that let me know that I at least had the 79 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: talent to do what I wanted to do. But at 80 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: the time I was one of the funniest things that 81 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: people don't know is I've never drank in my life. 82 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: I've never even tasted alcohol. I've never had a drug, 83 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: a cigarette, nothing. So when I was doing shows with 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: these dudes, like the after parties were like every cliche 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: you could think of for these crazy after parties was 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: super real and I was uncomfortable. So I would go 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: like back to my hotel room or wherever we were staying, 88 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: and I would be writing pop songs secretly, like I 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: love to sing and I was inquired. So I started 90 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: writing pop songs at a young age and fell in 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: love with that too, so I kind of I was 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: doing a little bit of everything. Um, when I've decided 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to move out of Seattle because I didn't 94 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: see a musical future there at the time, I got 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: a job selling over the phone for Direct TV. They 96 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: had an office in Orange County. And the whole time 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: this is going on, your parents are saying what exactly? 98 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: They my dad and my bonus mom, Nina, his wife, 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: we're really supportive. My mom was a little apprehensive about 100 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: me doing rapper music at first, but she eventually came 101 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: around when I worked with one of her favorite singers. 102 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: We could talk about that later, but yeah, it was 103 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: it was cool. They were supportive, you know, they knew 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: that I was going to do it anyway. At a 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: young age. I told him, Look, school is not my thing. 106 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to college. I'm not gonna get good 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: grades in high school, but I'm definitely gonna make it 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: as a as a rapper or a songwriter. And they 109 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: were like, okay, so thank god it works because there 110 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: was no plan b um, but yeah, they were cool. 111 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: So I made the move and I was in uh Irvine, 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: UM selling direct TV day job nine to five type 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: stuff for UM yeah for about three months. UM. Early 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: here in my life, I had been in different cities. 115 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: The Bay Area was one of them, and I had 116 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: made some connections that I saved like business cards in 117 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: my phone type stuff. And one of the connections that 118 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: I made was to a big producer up in the 119 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: Bay Area. His name was Nardam Michael Walden. He said, 120 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: legend in the world of pop music, and UM. I 121 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: started calling everybody and everybody turned me down. Everybody said 122 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: no to wanting to meet me now that I was 123 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: in l A. But he was one of the only 124 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: people that said yes. So I took a trip up 125 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: to the Bay Area. I drove my like old broke 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: Honda cord that had two d fourteen thousand miles on it, 127 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: but it worked and it got me up to the 128 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Bay and I met with him and he had me 129 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: sing like my three best songs he wanted me to sing, 130 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: and he hated all didn't like one song, and so 131 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: I was like really deflated walking out of the studio 132 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: because I was like, damn, like I really thought these 133 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: were good songs and I thought this was like a 134 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: big break for me. And as I was leaving, this 135 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: dude came out of the control room and he was like, hey, 136 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't like anything, so I don't sweat it, like 137 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: I thought your songs were great. And I was like, 138 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: thank you, man, but like I'm feeling pretty down, and 139 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: he was like no, Like, I'm a producer, my name's 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Mike Monty, and I want to give you this beat 141 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: c D of my tracks. So I was like okay, 142 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: bet So Mike gave me this beat t D and 143 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: I drove back six hours back to my place where 144 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: I was living in Orange County from the Bay Area, 145 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: and I wrote to all of them, every track and 146 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: I just fell in love with his music. And I 147 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: called him when I got back to Orange County and 148 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, your tracks are amazing, Like I 149 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: don't say I love him, and I wrote like crazy 150 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: to him. He was like, which one did you write to? 151 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: I said all of them. So he was like, okay, Well, 152 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: he said, the next time you're in the bay, uh, 153 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: come by and show me the songs. I was like, okay, bet, 154 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: hung up, got in the car, drove six hours. UM 155 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: showed up at his house. Because my dad always told 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: me when I was young, this is there was no 157 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: like this was like a long time ago, keep in mind, 158 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: so I map quested this. There was no like GPS, 159 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: like I printed out my directions up map quest. If 160 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: you don't know what map quest is, I don't know 161 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: what to tell you. You're too young, but that's okay. 162 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: So after Um, after I made that drive, I just 163 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: showed up at his place because because the addresses on 164 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: his business card. So when I showed up at his house, 165 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: he opened the door and he was like, I thought 166 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: you were back in Orange County and I was like, yeah, 167 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: but you said the next time I'm in the Bay, 168 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: I could come and show you my songs, and I'm here, 169 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: so what's up. So it was just one of those 170 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: moments where like I took a chance and I just 171 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: went for it, and thank god it worked because Mike 172 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: and I have been writing together for eighteen years since 173 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: that day, so I went back to the Bay area. Um, 174 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: and he loved those songs. He loved Yeah, he loved 175 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: the songs. We had a great chemistry. So I went 176 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: back to Orange County where I was working still my 177 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: nine to five job, and Mike was in the Bay. 178 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: So I was like, I have to figure out a 179 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: way to make this work somehow. So by a Fluke, 180 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: the boss of the Direct TV location, who was super 181 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: rich and super cool, but he was also like very 182 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: about his business. He had his assistant come over my desk. 183 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: She was like, hey, Tom wants to talk to you 184 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: in his office about you leaving for these back to 185 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: back days. I'm like okay, So I go. And by 186 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: the way, I had like a crush on this girl, 187 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: like I was. I knew I was about to get 188 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: scolded in front of this girl who like the cool. 189 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: So we go to Tom's office. Tom's like, look, man, 190 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: you left two days. You didn't give me any notice, 191 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: and you know the policy here. Unfortunately, like that's just 192 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: not okay, um, but um, I need you to sign 193 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: this paperwork before you leave. And now I'm pleading for 194 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: my job. I'm like, I'm like begging in front of 195 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: Tom in front of his assistant, looking like a fool, 196 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: and he said, it just is what it is. I've 197 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: made my decision. He like slid this envelope over to me, 198 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: and it was like a Manila full there was paperwork 199 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: in it. But I opened it up and on the 200 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: top there was a cashier's check on top of the 201 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: envelope and it was made out to me UM, and 202 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: it was in the amount of thirty dollars. And I 203 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: looked up at him and I'm like, I don't know 204 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: what this is. And he goes, look, I heard what 205 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: you made up in the bay, Um. You need to 206 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: take this money and get as far away from here 207 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: and go back to there and do as much of 208 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: that as you can. And I just instantly started crying, ugly, crying, 209 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean like that, And it's 210 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: in front of this girl. No, it couldn't. It couldn't 211 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: have been worse. Do you think she knew about it? 212 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. She was shocked too. But he had 213 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: heard the music because I played it, you know, for 214 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: people around the office, um at a party, and he 215 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: believed in it. And he was just like, look, man, 216 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: life is about paying it forward. I'm like, I will 217 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: pay you back this money. And he was like, no, 218 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: this is a gift. The way you can pay me 219 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: act is by doing good for other people. And anytime 220 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: you get the chance, just do good for people. So 221 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: he gave me this check. I left the building with 222 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: this check, went to the bank and put this check 223 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: in my account, which was overdrawn by like eighty two bucks. 224 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: And I went up to the teller and she was like, uh, 225 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: this is nice. I'm like, yeah, this is crazy. What's 226 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: my balance? And she's like, you're overdrawn eighty two. So 227 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: I had to wait for this check to clear, and 228 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: then I called Mike and I'm like, bro, I'm moving, 229 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Like I got money, I'm moving. That the biggest amount 230 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: of money you had seen at that time. Oh yeah, 231 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: of course, And none of that money was for me. 232 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: I gave that money to Mike to book him out 233 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: pretty much for six months. We like, I've moved. I 234 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: used that money to move, got a place, booked out 235 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Mike's work for many months, and we just got to work. 236 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: And since that day we've never stopped. It's just been 237 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: it's just been amazing. So really, that guy Tom Martindale 238 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: Direct TV. Everybody that man, right, there. I gotta put 239 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: my hash Browns in here with this. You kind of 240 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: want when you're cooking a breakfast burrito, you really want 241 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: the flavors of everything to start working together as soon 242 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: as possible. So when you feel like you've got your 243 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: Theresa done, which I do, and you feel like you've 244 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: got your hash Browns done, you want to like let 245 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: them get happy together. Okay. And I saw you dump 246 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: the onions and I dumped onions. Yeah, you like you 247 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: really want this thing to be like like beach front 248 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: property in Flavortown. You know what I'm saying. When you 249 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: buy into it, you really want that. So I get 250 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: this going all together because we're pretty much good now. 251 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I haven't even got the burner off. Like we're at 252 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: the point with this stuff where now it's eggs clatillas 253 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: and we start putting it together, so we're good. This 254 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: looks so it's gonna be it's gonna be good. Um, 255 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: so we're doing eggs nice. So yeah, that's um. That's 256 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: kind of how I got my break, honestly. And then 257 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Mike and I started working like crazy. We signed a 258 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: publishing deal um with Sony through Big John Platt shout 259 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: out to Big John for changing my life, and we 260 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: found our first artist. We signed a girl that was 261 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: twelve years old. We believed in her. Her name is 262 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Tory Kelly. She's a pretty amazing singer. If you guys 263 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: don't know who Tory Kelly is, she's one of the 264 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: best singers in the world and she's gone on to 265 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: do really well. And that signing Tori and developing Tori 266 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: was a big break for us UM And then we 267 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: got lucky. We got in with the Backstreet Boys, we 268 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: got in with Pussycat Dolls, Brandy And at this point, 269 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: what when do you personally feel like you arrived? Like 270 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: when was it? Like, I'm sure that the thirty dollar 271 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: check was confirmation that you were on the right path. Yeah, 272 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: that did make because you know, the whole time, you're like, 273 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: I think I'm good. What if I'm awful? Like do 274 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: you ever watch American Idol or The Voice and you see, well, 275 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: the voices talent, But when you see American Idols some 276 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: of these people auditioning, you're like, someone know you're not good, man, Like, 277 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: you have to know you're not good. But with this, 278 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: it was like, I think I'm good enough. People have 279 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: told me that I have talent and I really hope so, 280 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, that was confirmation for sure. So I did 281 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: feel like then when we started getting in rooms with 282 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: people that I was like big, Like when I was 283 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: in the room with Brandy writing songs for Brandy's album 284 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: and I'm a massive Brandy fan, I'm like, yea, this 285 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: is like I'm on, yeah, yeah, this is crazy. So 286 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't the checks. It was like, it's almost like 287 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: my favorite rappers, jay Z, of course, So like if 288 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: I ever first of all people who know me, no, 289 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: I can't even But if I think that, if I 290 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: ever got an opportunity to interview jay Z, that's it. 291 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, I've arrived. You can't. I'm almost Beyonce level 292 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: at this point. You know what I'm saying. I'm not mad, 293 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: I get it. So yeah, it was more than people 294 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: than the checks. Honestly, anybody in music, I don't care 295 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: how big you are, if you want to use that 296 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: term or successful. Everybody knows that money comes and goes 297 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: in this business. Sometimes you got it, sometimes you don't. 298 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: Like if I got songs on the radio that are 299 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: doing well or songs that are streaming well, business is 300 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: popping but there's times where you don't and then you're 301 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to live a little tighter, and 302 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. So I've never really 303 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: defined success in music by money. It was more about 304 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: like the opportunities, because once you get into the business, 305 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: you realize how hard it is to get in rooms 306 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: with people. Anybody could write songs, and today there's so 307 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: many people writing songs off their laptops sending them in 308 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: from their bedroom, which is amazing because they didn't have 309 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: that when I started out. But it's really hard to 310 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: get in a room with people, you know what I mean, Like, 311 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: like you're a fan of jay Z. I was a 312 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: big fan of Tech nine and I got to fly 313 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: to Kansas City and work with Tech nine, you know, 314 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: and that was like that's hard. That those kind of 315 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: things made it more like believable for me. So was 316 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: there ever a point where you made money and you 317 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: kinda blew it and then all the time, are you 318 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: kidding me? I've rented this house that was five bedrooms 319 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: and it was me living in it because I was 320 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: I was like, this is amazing and I want to 321 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: feel like a baller. And I built a shoe room, 322 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: and I got four hundred pairs of sneakers, and I 323 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: was just an idiot, and I blew money like crazy 324 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: all the time. And then you hit a point where 325 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know, you realize what's more important, 326 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: like stability and paying taxes and other things like that 327 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to do for a long time. 328 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, of course there's plenty of that stuff. 329 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: So since your career has taken off, this particular meal, 330 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: this signature dish, I'm guessing you still eat every once 331 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: in a while for luxury or has there been a 332 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: point in the last five years where you had to 333 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: eat it out of survival. Well, survival is so dramatic, 334 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you're living in in 335 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: l a you're all right no matter how broke you are. 336 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: There's people that around this world that are doing a 337 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: lot worse. So survival is tough to say. But I 338 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: will say that is just really hard, because that's what 339 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But if you can afford to pay rent 340 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: in l A, h, you know you're surviving. Yeah, that's true. 341 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: But I will say this, this is a meal that 342 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: my wife loves. I like to cook breakfast every weekend 343 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: if I can for us, and this is just one 344 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: that like, she absolutely loves it. So I make this 345 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: meal a lot at the house, so yeah, we do 346 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: eat this one. I'm just looking at this meal. I 347 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: feel like this is going to be drafted into first 348 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: of all, probably take ownership with my husband and be 349 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: like I came up with this dish. You know it's 350 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: going to see an episode of this, like stop that 351 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: line probably when I serviced when he's like, where'd you 352 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: get this? Eating well broke but um, but yeah, this 353 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: dish looks smells with all the ingredients. I'm like completely 354 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: shocked that you can have such a real rest around 355 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: almost all dish for so cheap, and it's not even 356 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: unhealthy because most of the meals we see that com 357 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: on this show are just you know they're unhealthy because 358 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: I get it. Let me give you a tip to 359 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: for people out there when you're about to do yours. 360 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: Uh you want to put I like to cook it 361 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: in the pant overhead shot, overhead camp. Don't clean your pan. 362 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: That's that's flavor. That's flavor. Just put that thing right 363 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: on there and let it get happy. Just look the 364 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: outside get dirty, or something. You're assuming that the part 365 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: I just put it on the outside. See what you 366 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: do is once this is ready, just is once it's warm. 367 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Now you take this thing off and the bottom part 368 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: is the inside, and now I start filling it. So 369 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: I'll show you this part is a little bit of 370 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: like a a multi layered process because I like to 371 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: I like to load it up a certain kind of way. 372 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: But but I think it's interesting about George too. Was like, 373 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: while I was watching and Cook, I'm like, oh, he 374 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: needs He's clearly going to need like way more pots 375 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: and pants. But no, you're just like swapping flavors the 376 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: entire exactly. You let everything get happy together. Look at that. 377 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: Now we do this. So who so far in your 378 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: career would you say, uh, probably left the most I 379 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: guess impact. Mm hmm. That's a good question. Who left 380 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: the most impact creatively? Or like, like, who did I 381 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: like the most? Those are different questions. You can answer 382 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: both because I'll use both of us. So I think 383 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: that somebody that left like a really big impact on 384 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: me personally that I went in with was Mariah. So 385 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: this was one of those moments where it's like, this 386 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: is a legend okay. But the reason why it left 387 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: such an impact was she was not like how you 388 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: might think in your head of how you know someone 389 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: so big would be in the studio. She was very 390 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: like when she would listen down to her vocals that 391 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: we were going through, she would say, oh, like, oh no, 392 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: don't play that one, like that's not it. And I'm like, 393 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: you're like anything you sing is amazing, Like this take 394 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: that you don't think is good is so good. And 395 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: I think that like it showed me a level of like, 396 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: even when you get to the top, you still have 397 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: to be so vigilant and you still have to be 398 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: so selective about what you put out there and what 399 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: people here. And I kind of thought that was amazing 400 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: because you could at that level, you could just ride 401 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: the easy train from there on out if you want to. 402 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: But she also shows her level of passion and commitment 403 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: right completely. That's what I'm saying, Like, it was very cool. 404 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was just cool for a different 405 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: reason because it was it just kind of showed me like, Okay, 406 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: whatever level you're at in this business, keep going. Yeah, 407 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: So that was big to me. Not at all. She 408 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: was great. Really, I thought she was awesome. I mean, 409 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: I know, I know people say things about her, but 410 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean she was she was super cool. 411 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: She showed up at the studio. This was her and 412 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: Nick Cannon walked in. Wait, you didn't put the cheese 413 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: on that one girl. I understand. Oh, I just been't 414 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: watching to get my my little because I was gonna 415 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: say who was wearing the apron, but we're both wearing apron, 416 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: so I can't. I can't. So here's the thing. She 417 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: showed up at the studio looking like Catwoman. She had it. 418 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: She all leather jacket, black leather, black leather pants, black 419 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: leather patent shoes. I was like, okay, this woman is 420 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: a deep but like she's a star. But she was 421 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: so cool. She was cool as the other side of 422 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: the pillow the whole time. So I don't know, you know, um, 423 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: So that was big. Somebody that like made a big 424 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: impact on my life in another way, and and they 425 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: know this now because I've told them, is Michael Bolton. 426 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know who that is, but 427 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: he was a really big singer in the eighties, huge, 428 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: like well, he was the biggest pop vocalist in the eighties. 429 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: This guy has unbelievable voice, you know ten number one songs. 430 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: He's been a writer on you know, Double that. So anyway, 431 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: I grew up in the house hearing Michael Bolton all 432 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: the time because this is what my mom loved, Michael Bolton. 433 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: So I eventually got a call from someone saying, Michael 434 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: Bolton wants to get in with you guys and work 435 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: on his new album. And I was like, oh, that's cool, 436 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: because like that was kind of nostalgic. But what really 437 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: happened was that when Bolton was in with us, I 438 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: was like, man, my mom like she hasn't always got 439 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: like how I'm going to make it in music, but 440 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: she does believe in me big time. But it would 441 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: be amazing if I called my mom and put you 442 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: on the phone with her. She's the biggest Michael Bolton. 443 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: He was like, let's go. So like I called my mom. 444 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I got Michael Bolton here. She's like 445 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: uh huh, So like not for real, Like I'm in 446 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: with Michael boll This is crazy. So he gets on 447 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: the phone and he's like singing my praises and saying, 448 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: how you know, great of a writer I am, And 449 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I'm like, yeah, Milk keep saying, 450 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: tell her I'm even better. So he's milking it. And honestly, 451 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: from that day, like my mom got it. She was like, Okay, 452 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: I might not have got all the rap stuff he 453 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: was doing, but like this is crazy, like my son's 454 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: writing with Michael freaking Bolton, and like, I'm a huge fan. 455 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: So since that day, she's been such a big supporter, 456 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 1: like hangs my plaques in her house like she's like, 457 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And also Michael Bolton gives 458 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: my mom tickets to every show he does in California. 459 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: She goes backstage like v I P to Michael Bolton. 460 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, you better cut that out. So, yeah, it's 461 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. So I don't know, There's there's ways 462 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: that you get touched in this business that I think 463 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: you can't even anticipate. Sometimes, Yeah, what advice would you 464 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: give to someone that's coming up in the game. You 465 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: got a baby in there. Don't act like you're excited 466 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: about this. Trust me, I'm beyond excited. Okay, Um, what 467 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: was your question? Um? Sorry you distracted me. I know 468 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: I was food, I was chef is a little bit cocky. Unfortunately, 469 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: we're probably gonna wrap soon. So but I wanted to know, like, 470 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: what advice would you give to someone that is trying 471 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: to make it because you have kind of all these 472 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: blessing milestones, But what advice would you give? Um? I 473 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: think the best advice I can give, honestly, in the 474 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: simplest form, is just every time you have a chance 475 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: to get in the room, just kick as much ass 476 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: as you can every time. Mhmm. Don't ever think that 477 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: you're better than anyone in that room. Just try like 478 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: you're auditioning for the team every single time you get 479 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: a chance, no matter what stage you're at. Because some 480 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: of the best that I've the legends that I've got 481 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: a chance to work with, their legends because they do 482 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: that every time when they're on the mic or they're 483 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: in the room, they are working as hard as they 484 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: can three time. So even after you've made it, don't 485 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: slack on. What if something's a smaller budget, do you 486 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: say give it your all? Or every time you get 487 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: the chance, because you never know what's a small you 488 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: never know what is going to go on to make it. 489 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: I stopped trying to predict what's a hit a long 490 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: time ago. People are like, oh, I just wrote a smash. 491 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: I just wrote a smash. I'm like, bro, you don't. 492 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: First of all, nobody can predict what a hit is 493 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: going to be until it happens, so you don't know. Um, 494 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: can I just tell you this right here? I'm not 495 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: trying to shout out while jack, but this Jack del 496 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Fuego sauce. This changed my life. If you can get 497 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: a close up of this right here. If you don't 498 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: know what this is, you might as well just go 499 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: figure that one out. We're technically not supposed to do that, 500 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: but it's okay. Say what you want to say. So 501 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: is there a flavor of that sauce? This one right here? 502 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: How a narrow carrot? Look? Okay, have a narrow carrot. 503 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm glad you actually did that because I'm gonna try 504 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: and make this disht I'm trying to tell you this, 505 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: how a narrow carrot? Girl? How you pray twice in 506 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: the day. So that's the advice I would give. Yeah, 507 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: And I noticed with your everything that happened in your career, 508 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you moved urgently, like you didn't waste time, 509 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: you didn't care about you know, is this person I'm 510 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: too eager. That's a great point, you know, honestly, the 511 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: reason behind that is because you learn early on that 512 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: you can't predict what success is going to be in 513 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: this business. You don't know what song is gonna work, 514 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: you don't know what projects going to sell, So you 515 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: can't you can't like bask in your own glory for 516 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: too long. You have to just do your best work 517 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: weight before you fall. That dude overhead. Can you got 518 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: to see that that is crazy right there? This looks 519 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: beautiful just like this. So I think, like you just 520 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna work. So you don't spend 521 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time thinking you're the ship. Because that 522 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: project that you think might be so successful might not be. 523 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: And even if it was super successful, the next one 524 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: that you get on might flop. So just appreciate your 525 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: success and be happy about it, but then keep it moving. Okay, 526 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: Now what about and I and I hate to I 527 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: still go through this to this day, Like you know, 528 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: you're working on a project, even like with eating while broke, 529 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: do you think that there's a level of like negative 530 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: energy that could affect the outcome? Because I feel like 531 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: no matter how far or how many little milestones not 532 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: as big as yours um that I've accomplished. I still 533 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: get back in my mind think, oh it could fail, 534 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: or maybe I'm just in my head thinking it's not 535 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: big enough. But do you think that energy affects you know, 536 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: like the laws of attraction. Do you think that affects it. 537 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: I think that negative energy is it's like complaining about 538 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: the size of the moon. It's not gonna do any good. 539 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: You can't change it. So I don't spend a lot 540 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: of time being negative. Even when I'm working on projects, 541 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: I might not be excited about I'm working on the 542 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: same because you just don't. I don't know, Like I 543 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: don't put it out there honestly, but I'm saying, like 544 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: that internal self doubt that you battle it. I always 545 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: have internal self doubt every single day. Every day I 546 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: have it. Is the song good enough is, you know, 547 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: is what I'm am I working hard enough is? You know, 548 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: Like I'm always thinking like that, But that is just 549 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: what pushes you to keep being great. You know. So 550 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: that's a normal you'd say that's like normal. I think 551 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: it's completely normal. I think it's part of what makes 552 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: people successful is that drive to never think like you've 553 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: made it or that everything you do is so good. 554 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever worked with someone where you know their 555 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: album did extremely well, but the whole time they the 556 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: artist whatever, was questioning it. Oh my god. Almost every 557 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: artist does that, really. Yeah, I mean I think the 558 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: great ones always do. They'll know when they've made something 559 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: that feels really good to them, but they're always questioning 560 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: if the pupp is gonna love it. Yeah, you know, 561 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like I've worked a lot with the 562 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys, I've had a lot of success with them. 563 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: Every time their album drops, they are the most excited 564 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: people to go look and see how it does. They're reading, 565 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: they're looking through it. Like these guys don't need to 566 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: do anything for the rest of their lives. If they 567 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: don't want to, that's amazing. But they love it, they 568 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: live for it. Yes, So I think that's important to 569 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: know to keep in mind. Oh well, this interview has 570 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: gone really well, except for the fact that we haven't 571 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: actually tasted it yet. What's happening right now? You can't 572 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: rush hosting a burrito. I don't know. Somebody lied to 573 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: you if they tell you the overhead the whole shoot 574 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: should be just on you. You should have a cooking show. 575 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Let's go um oh, the third one if you want, 576 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: you could do that after. Yeah, that's fine, let's do 577 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: that one after. Yes, we'll keep that for a time. Everybody, 578 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: I just hold up. We gotta cut this thing because 579 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: if you got to show the inside. Okay, you feel me? 580 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: Get this little knife cooking show. You've got this tiny 581 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: little knife. Can we get a knife endorsement? Let's get 582 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: a knife endorsement of it here, that's all right. Oh 583 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: my gosh, it has a crispy shell. That's why you 584 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: were trying to rush me. But no, I don't but 585 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't cave. Look at that. Let's get it over. 586 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, let's get that thing right there. That 587 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: looks amazing. My hands burning. So then you just played 588 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: it a little bit like this. Okay, so you just 589 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: do that, and now what you really want to do 590 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: to have a little fun with it every time? A Yeah, 591 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna blooded like that. I'm 592 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: not gonna do you call blooded like that. You get 593 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: tell he's a real chef because he's he's turned the 594 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: island upside down completely. Okay, Now what you want to do. 595 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: Give people a little chance to fall in love with 596 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: that taste with the sauce, because they might not choose 597 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: to do it themselves. You've gotta urge them. So here 598 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: you go. Awesome. Thank you, and that's that awesome, and 599 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming out. But before we 600 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: even close out, I gotta take a bite. You gotta 601 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: take a bite. Okay, we gotta judge this meal. We 602 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: gotta see if it's actually going to go into my 603 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: personal arsenal of meals I make it. I can't have 604 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: my man over here, the camera guy try it. I 605 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: can't make all this stuff and then have these people. 606 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: They'll try it, they'll try it. Okay, all right, let's 607 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: go just we just gotta let's do it first. It's 608 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: a little hot. Oh my mm hmm. I mean best meal. 609 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying best meal. You taught. I'll make sure 610 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: you guys all through best meal. Thank you for having 611 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: me on this show called Thank you so much. I 612 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: love this. By the way, this is so cool. People 613 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 1: are gonna dig this. Thank you and people people. I 614 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: hope everyone can really draw a lot. I know I've 615 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: always been impressed with your story and the fact that 616 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: you're so humble, and the best part is the fact 617 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: that you can cook. So I'm always looking for an 618 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: invite oversee your house. Who ever, all right, we'll make 619 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: it happen again. But best best dish, hands down, best 620 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: dish on Eating While Broke, Yeah, so far, thank you 621 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: so yeah. I hope someone could top it so then 622 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: I can try it and then everybody can get your 623 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: recipe in the Eating While Broke cook click and make 624 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: it at home. But by far, the best, most amazing 625 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: dish ever. Fee, thank you for coming out awesome, Thanks 626 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: for having for more Eating Will Broke from I Heart 627 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: Radio and The Black Effect. Visit the I Heart Radio app, 628 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.