1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Listener mail. My name is Robert Lamb and my name 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: is Joe McCormick, and we've got a big old mail 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: bag for you today, Rob you cool if I jump 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: right in on this pair of messages, starting with the 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: one from Tabitha about mirrors and furry fish, go for it. Okay, 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: So the subject line here mirror hallucinations and mustachioed fish. 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: To refresh on the mirror subject. I think this is 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: connecting to a study we talked about in our Mirror 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: series about people with otherwise typical psychological histories pretty easily 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: experiencing hallucinations just from prolonged mirror staring, just looking at 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: their own face in a mirror for ten minutes or 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: so in low light. And so Tabitha rights, Hi, Robert 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: and Joe riding in with another mirror anecdote. Though I'm 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: sure you're sick of these by now. The only hallucination 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I've ever had was mirror based. I was finishing up 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: my master's thesis, very stressed and very sleep deprived, and 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: binge watching Hannibal, which is a beautiful TV show, but 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: not particularly good for mental health. One stressful day, I 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: was washing my hands in the bathroom. I looked up 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: and my reflection in the mirror was a different person. 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: It looked like me, it had my face, but I 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: had a deep impression that there was a different intelligence 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: looking back at me, and it was not impressed. The 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: moment passed pretty quickly, but it shook me up. I 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: had a fear of looking at mirrors in the dark 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: when I was a child, so I think this episode 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: was just something swimming up from my deep psyche to 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: freak me out at a time of trouble. To this day, 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: I have not finished watching Hannibal. And then, on a 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: different subject, I enjoyed your furry fish episodes, and I 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: wonder if you've thought about doing an episode on catfish 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: and catfish mythology. They were improbable size, mud lurking, sneakiness, 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: and fabulous mustaches seem ripe for some fun stories. I 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: know of the giant earthquake causing catfish of Japanese myth 37 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: have heard tales of the Wells catfish. I'm not sure 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: what that is to be well, maybe Welsh, I'm not 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: sure catfish eating people and pets on a regular basis 40 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: across Europe, and I'm sure there's much more enjoying the podcast. 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: As always, you guys brighten my day on a regular 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: basis regards Tabitha. Um, So, as for that that that 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Japanese myth, this is a cool one if you don't 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: know it. There's a creature I think called Namazoo or Onamazoo, 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: who is a a giant catfish who is believed to 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: swim around in in like caverns or lakes under the 47 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: ground I think, And then when they are earthquakes, it's 48 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: it said that this is because the fish is swimming. 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty cool. Um. Yeah. As as for not 50 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: finish sing Hannibal, I can definitely relate to that. I 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: really liked the show. I thought was very visual, but yeah, certainly, 52 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: uh maybe not the kind of thing you want to binge. 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: And at some point maybe I'll pick it back up 54 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: and finish it. But for now I feel like I'm 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: my belly is full. Yeah. I started watching it one time. 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: I watched a couple of episodes, but I never got 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: very far in Um, maybe I'll go back to it someday. 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Oh but maybe so Tabitha actually sent us a couple 59 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: of messages. Maybe I'm gonna move right on to this 60 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: next one that she sent in response to the Vault 61 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: episode about fingernails. All right, let's do it. Tabitha says, Hi, 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Robert and Joe just listen to the Vault episode fingernails too. 63 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: And I found myself trying not to scream into my 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: headphones that worms love hair. I think somehow this does 65 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: connect to the subject matter, So she says, I loved 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: your analysis of the symbolic and mythological roots of hair 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: and nail disposal. I can't help but think that all 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: of the hair and nail connection to fertility and plant 69 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: growth might stem from the fact that earthworms and other 70 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: decomposers love to eat keratin. It's a great source of 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: protein for them. It takes them a while to munch 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: through it, but earthworms dramatically increased soil health and available 73 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: nutrients for plants. So if you bury your hair and nails, 74 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: you will get boosted plant growth in that area. Interesting. 75 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: What that makes to me feel good about putting all 76 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: that cat hair back in the in the garden, which 77 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 1: I've never scientifically verified to see if that actually helps 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: keep creatures out of the garden. But I'm like, I 79 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: have all this cat hair. It needs to go somewhere. 80 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: It might as well be the garden. Well, this is 81 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: what she says. So Tabitha says, anecdotally, I have a 82 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: worm bin which I have kept covered with some thick, 83 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: untreated wool felt mats. The worms have been happily munching 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: through the base of the mats for the last six 85 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: months or so. Despite the coating of lanolin Uh, I 86 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: often find a worm has twined itself completely through the 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: felt in its travels. And then finally, she says, this 88 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: is the second email I've sent you in a week 89 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: or so. Sorry for the spam, but I'm doing very 90 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: boring work at the moment. Cheers Tabitha. No, keep them coming. 91 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: We're always happy to hear from from our listeners. Totally alright. 92 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of nails, here's another one, UM, and and did 93 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: we say I think the reason for this is because 94 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: there was a vault episode. Let's we we ran the 95 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: nails episode. That's why everyone's writing in about this. Um 96 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Pablo writes in it, says, Hi, Joe and Robert, my 97 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: name is Pablo. I'm a listener from Spain, and I 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: love your podcast because they are really interesting and for 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: me it's a wonderful way to practice and learn English. Anyways, 100 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: the other day I listened to the podcast from the 101 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Vault Fingernails. I was really excited because nails are extremely 102 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: important for me. I spent a lot of time trimming, polishing, 103 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: and taking care of them. But you didn't mention while 104 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: nails are so important for a lot of people like 105 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: my self. I work as a music teacher and play 106 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Spanish guitar. Maybe you don't know that we classical guitarists 107 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: play the strings with our nails and they have to 108 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: be perfectly shaped to get the nice sound. I used 109 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: to have a big problem with the thickness and fragility 110 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: of my nails. In fact, some amazing guitar player confessed 111 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: that he had once had to cancel an important concert 112 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: because he broke a fingernail, but he said that he 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: had the flu because the real reason was a bit embarrassing. 114 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: Fortunately for me, I lately learned how to build artificial 115 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: nails using some gels and a UV lamb. Nowadays, the 116 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: vast majority of electric guitar players exchange their fingernails for 117 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: the plastic ones or change their fingernails for the plastic one. Uh, 118 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: those that we call picks. H thank you so much 119 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: for your podcasts. I'm really happy listening to you kind regards. 120 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Pablo, So I um, I played guitar that 121 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: I've never played a classical guitar Spanish guitar. But I 122 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: had a friend in in high school who played classical guitar, 123 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: and he had like a like a long well well 124 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: care four thumbnail for picking those strings. I gotta say, 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: I've never played those guitars, but I play, you know, 126 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: electric and acoustic guitar, and I often don't use a pick. 127 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: I often just use my fingernails, but not by plucking 128 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: with long fingernails. I keep them pretty short. I just 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: sort of like hit with the back of my fingernail 130 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: as if my tip of my finger was a pick. 131 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I think you can see it's like really dig in there, 132 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: just just really dig in with a with a short nail. No, no, no, 133 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: it takes though. I use a pick sometimes too. Yeah 134 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: I will, I'll go go cyborg. Yeah I hadn't. I 135 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: never really, I'm not really a guitar person, don't know 136 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: much about them. So I had, I didn't really think 137 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: about that, and I never had. I had not really 138 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: thought about the fact that a guitar pick is this 139 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: kind of replacement for the fingernail, a stand in for 140 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: the fingernail. But that's that's fascinating. There are different variations 141 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: to Usually, if you're playing electric or acoustic guitar, people 142 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: tend to use a just a single flat pick that 143 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: you hold between your thumb and your index finger. But 144 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: like people playing the banjo often have a thumb pick 145 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: that's like a ring that sticks on the of their 146 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: thumb that they use for strumming or plucking the lower 147 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: strings on the banjo. Okay, what I have never seen 148 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: but would like to is somebody who who does a 149 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: fingerpicking guitar style, but they do it with like full hand, 150 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: all five fingers, finger armor, you know those things like 151 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: the whole finger ring with like a off and have 152 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: kind of a claw tip or something. Oh yeah, I 153 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: mean it seems like somebody would have done that, right, 154 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: And because it's got to be a metal band where 155 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: some of the some sort of crazy jewelry right there 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: is seems right up the right up The rock star 157 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: guitarist Sally Okay, This next message comes to us from Matt. 158 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: Matt said, also about fingernails, Matt says, Hello, Robert and Joe. 159 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: You mentioned in your Fingernails episode that many young people 160 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: with a habit of nail biting do grow out of it. 161 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: I was one such person. From as young as I 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: can remember, I had always bitten my nails and never, 163 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: not once, did I ever have to cut them. I 164 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: did not choose to bite them. I just couldn't help it. 165 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: My mom bought me bad tasting clear hooting to deter me, 166 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: but it didn't help. But one day in my mid twenties, 167 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: I noticed that my nails were long and I had 168 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: to cut them. Twenty years later, I have not bitten 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: them again. I would like to hear from other listeners 170 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: who have also outgrown this habit. I'm very curious if 171 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: it ended suddenly like minded, or if it might end 172 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: in other ways. Love the show. Thanks for all you do, Matt. Um. 173 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting because it makes me think 174 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: of the broader phenomenon of um. Just like when there 175 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: is a major change in our in our habits or 176 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: patterns of mind, and we have no idea why. It 177 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: just seems to come out of nowhere. Yeah, yeah, just 178 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: sort of changes, and it's sometimes it's hard to put 179 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: a finger on exactly what happened. I think the closest 180 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: thing that I have to this in my own cases. 181 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, I've been through periods of my life where 182 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: I have like, uh, sort of heightened generalized anxiety that 183 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: is present, and then other periods where I don't no 184 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: identifiable reason that I can figure out, like what causes 185 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: the transition from one to the other, can't, can't in 186 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: any way lock it into events going on in my life. 187 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Is just like, you know, this is this is what 188 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: my brain is doing at one point, and then one 189 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: day it just stops. Yeah. Greadly enough, I feel much 190 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: the same. I feel like I've spent some time trying 191 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: to to chart those periods in my life with things 192 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: going on in my life, and that the topographies don't 193 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: necessarily match up. So it's it's weird how that plays out. 194 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: But indeed, if there's anyone out there who has some 195 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: some feedback on nail biting, like how it stopped when 196 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: it stopped, yeah, go and go ahead, go ahead and 197 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: write in and let us know. We'll share it with 198 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Matt and the rest of the listeners. We gotta do 199 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: these shows once a week, folks. So yeah, I'm happy 200 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: to to have these, uh these continuing conversations. All right. 201 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Our next bit of listener mail comes to us from 202 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Nick uh and this is in a response to our 203 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: episode or episodes on The Furry Fish. Hello Robert and Joe, 204 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: longtime listener, first time, etcetera, etcetera. All I can think 205 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: about while listening to The Fish have for episode was 206 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan Colton's song Fury Old Lobsters, originally written to help 207 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: promote John Hodgman's book Areas of My Expertise. The singer 208 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: at first seems to be lamenting the loss of an 209 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: old species of haired lobster. Only later in the song 210 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: do we realize he is confusing the lobster with a 211 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: completely different animal. If you haven't heard the song, you 212 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: should definitely check it out. Nick, I don't know anything 213 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: about this. Oh no, no, this this uh so yeah. 214 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: This was the audio book for Areas of My Expertise 215 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: by John Hodgman, which I definitely listened to this and 216 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: enjoyed it quite a bit back in the day. And 217 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I actually saw Jonathan Colton in concert shortly thereafter. He 218 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: played at a small venue here in our area, and 219 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: he's quite good. I feel like he's uh, he's quite 220 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: a talented musician. Um. And you know, he has some 221 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: of these songs that may to be you know, some 222 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: people might think, oh, it's just kind of like gimmicky songs, 223 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: little comedy songs. But I feel like he's a really 224 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: solid singer songwriter. So definitely worth checking out. And as 225 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: for Hodgman, you know, obviously uh, uh talented and funny guy. 226 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: But I still can't believe all those people he mutilated 227 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: on the nick? Who rush stuff? Who does he play 228 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: on the nick? Is he a historical figure or just 229 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: a um? I can't I can't remember just the character's name. 230 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: He plays a character who's Who's whose? Answer? I think 231 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: it's I'm pretty sure it's based on a historic person, uh, 232 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: if memory serves. But he plays a quack doctor of 233 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: the time who believes that the answer to any kind 234 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: of mental issue is the removal of all teeth. And 235 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: uh and he's so he's he's removed multiple people's entire 236 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: set of teeth to improve their their their demeanor and 237 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: their their their their their mental life, including the teeth 238 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: of his children. So he's this it's it's the best 239 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's the best, uh acting role that 240 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: I've seen John Hodgman in because he's he's he's awful. 241 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: He's awful in it. He's just she's like, oh my god, 242 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: this guy is completely nuts. One of these days, I'm 243 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: gonna have to watch that show. It's it's good. It's 244 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily for the faint of heart, but it's 245 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: it's good. I think it's all on HBO what is it, 246 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: HBO Max these days. Yeah, I think it's all been 247 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: moved over there because that was one of the problems 248 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: when it came out. Terrific show, But how many people 249 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: were actually subscribing to Cinemax at the time in order 250 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: to watch uh historic medical drama. No, I don't think 251 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: many people were. Uh So a lot of people missed it. 252 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: But now it's all out there and it's easy to 253 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: dive into it if you can get past like some 254 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: rough stuff right at the top of the first episode, 255 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: all right, this next message is about our episode on 256 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: gears Gears in biology. So in this episode about gears 257 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: in the biological world, we talked about the scarcity of 258 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: examples of gears in animal bodies. But several listeners wrote 259 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: in after this episode to point out that actually, if 260 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: you zoom in far enough, not looking at macroscopic uh, 261 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, body structures, but if you zoom in all 262 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: the way down to the molecular level, there are in 263 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: fact tons of gears in biology. And so an example 264 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: of this type of message comes from Cody. Cody says, Hi, 265 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: Joe and Robert, in your Gears episode, you mentioned that 266 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: you couldn't find another biological example of toothed gears, but 267 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: you've overlooked how a t P is synthesized in mitochondria 268 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: as a side No, a TP is a denizine triphosphate. 269 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: It is the sort of main energy source that powers 270 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: the life of cells in in the bodies of I 271 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: think basically all organisms. Cody goes on this process involves, 272 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: uh the use of a sort of brownie and ratchet 273 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: mechanism that exploits the chart differential on either side of 274 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: the mitochondrial membrane. There are more protons on one side 275 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: of the membrane than the other because of a deliberate 276 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: disequilibrium that the mitochondria produces for this purpose, and this 277 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: causes the protons to want to flow through the membrane 278 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: To establish charge balance, the membrane is periodically perforated with 279 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: microtubules that have embedded in them a bona fide mechanical 280 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: ratchet see pictures below. Rob you can look at the 281 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: pictures that Cody attached absolute I would say this is 282 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: bona fide. Yes, h, Cody says uh. And the motion 283 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: of the protons turns the ratchet, which is connected via 284 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: a CAM to the A T P synthase molecule, thus 285 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: extracting energy from the voltage across the membrane via mechanical 286 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: gear action to produce a highly energetic compound a TP. 287 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: This process even leverages mechanical advantage, as the ratchet through 288 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: which the protons flow has several teeth, but the connected 289 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: match it in the synthesis molecule has only three teeth. Incidentally, 290 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: many antibiotics target this system, either by gumming up the gears, 291 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: preventing protons from flowing through them, or permanently uncoupling the 292 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: cam connecting the two ratchets. Since all of life on 293 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Earth relies on ADP to do literally anything, you could 294 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: say at a very basic level We're all made of gears. 295 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: Very cool contribution Cody and others who wrote in on 296 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: this subject, So so yeah, thank you, and folks at 297 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: home look up this gear. Yeah, I find this this area. 298 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's super fascinating but also very challenging to 299 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: understand at times. I've I've attended a couple of talks 300 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: at the World Science Festival about the idea of constructing 301 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: nano bots out of this sort of thing, and uh, yeah, 302 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it always blows my mind. But I'm 303 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: also kind of like really kind of struggling to to 304 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: understand like that smaller realm, you know. Yeah, oh yeah, 305 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean with a lot of molecular biology, like I 306 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: don't understand and enough well enough to really make judgments 307 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: about it on my own. I just gotta take your 308 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: word for it, all right. We heard from Jim in 309 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: response to a recent artifact or as it is for 310 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: the months of September and October, the Monster fact. Uh. 311 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: Jim Wrightson and says, when I saw the title Satanic 312 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Writes of Drugula come up in the feed, I assume 313 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: the song was about an actual event or person like 314 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Slayer's Angel of Death or Celtic Frost into the Crypts 315 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: of Raids, But you were talking about the actual song. 316 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: Electric Wizard is one of my favorite bands and one 317 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: of the few whose music I can actually they can 318 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: actually put me into another state, transporting me or whatever. 319 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: I hope you saw them at the Tabernacle just before 320 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: COVID hit. It was a great show and they played 321 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: that song, which is actually one of my favorites. Although 322 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: they have a ton of great songs, I still can't 323 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: believe you brought up Electric Wizard. You guys do have 324 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: a very eclectic and varied podcast. Keep up the great work. 325 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: Jim Well, um, well, Joe was the I guess the 326 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: the o G Electric Wizard fan here. I I was 327 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: a latecomer to Electric Wizard, but have been listening to 328 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: them a lot recently. You've had Wizard on the brain, 329 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: I can tell the past past month or so, it seems. 330 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: Were you at this show? You've actually seen them live? 331 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Rachel and I went, yeah, okay, it was heavy, No, 332 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: it was really good. Yeah yeah, yeah. Well maybe maybe 333 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: one day I'll get to see him after. Everything's a 334 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: little saying or out there. But one thing that was 335 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: really funny was so of course it's you know, it's 336 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: a very debauched heavy metal show. But I remember sitting 337 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: near us in the balcony there was like maybe like 338 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: a twelve year old kid there clearly with his dad, 339 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: like he I think he really wanted to go to 340 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: the show, and so his dad took him to Electric 341 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: Wizard the Young Wizards. All right. I thought it was sweet. Yeah. 342 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: My my son's not really at the point where he's 343 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: much into any of the music that I played, but 344 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: occasionally he'll say something. I think I was playing some 345 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: Evangelists or Tangerine Dream and he was like, hey, this's 346 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: an song, and I was like, yeah, that's right, that's right, son, 347 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: It is all right. Let's do a little weird house 348 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: cinema listener mail. This one comes to us from Frederick 349 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: Dear master, podcasters, Robert and the show. Thank you for 350 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: your excellent work exploring the depths of the human experience. 351 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's all we making me laugh because I 352 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: know this is mostly regarding weird house cinema. I enjoy 353 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: every minute of it. I've considered writing a few times, 354 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: for example regarding uh queuing phenomenon and Swedish versus German subways. Oh, 355 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear about that, but I felt you 356 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: might have had enough waiting related correspondence already. Send it 357 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: on anyway. Frederick continues, I'm writing now listening to the 358 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: Weird House Cinema episode called Devil's Express, and it inspired 359 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: me to write this email. It's not much of a 360 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: question or a mark, rather a challenge. Here's the background story. 361 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: I must have been somewhere between five and seven years 362 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: old and my parents had some guests over. I was 363 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: minding my own business as I heard the adults call 364 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: directed at me, don't look at the TV, smart or 365 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: as apparently something scary was shown. I was nowhere near 366 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: the TV at the moment, so what does a child 367 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: do in that situation. I obviously ran straight into the 368 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: living room where the TV was on, to see what 369 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: not to look at. I remember seeing a scene out 370 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: of what must have been a horror film. There was 371 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: a woman sneaking around in an abandoned subway car. She 372 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: sees someone and walks up to him. Scary soundtrack intensifies. 373 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: The person turns around and it's a skeleton. The vision 374 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: of the scary skull with the empty eye sockets must 375 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: have burnt itself into my innocent subconscious as the scene 376 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: did not only frighten me senseless back then, but it 377 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: has popped up every now and then as a memory. Lastly, 378 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: as you were talking about a demon in the subway 379 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: in the aforementioned podcast, I suspect that if I see 380 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: it again, I can laugh at the silliness of it 381 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: all and send myself some comfort. Uh, send some comfort 382 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: back through time to the child version of myself. But 383 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: what was the movie eighties Earle horror movie with a 384 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: woman sneaking around in an abandoned subway car frightened by 385 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: a skeleton monster. If anyone on this earth would have 386 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: an idea, I believe you guys are the ones to 387 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: talk to, or indeed your audience. I can think of 388 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: none other better educated on the topic. Wishing you a 389 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: wonderful weekend to head best, Frederick. This is really funny 390 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: because it the the dynamic you're describing reminds me of 391 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: an experience that I had where there was a time 392 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: when I was a child and I was flipping TV 393 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: channels and I came across some horrible movie on TV 394 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: and it had the scene of somebody like getting shot 395 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: in the knees. That really just shook me, and like 396 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: years later, i'd still think of it and feel a 397 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: chill and then, but I never knew what the movie 398 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: was until I started like going on the internet and 399 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: and trying to like go to those those forums where 400 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: you can like describe a movie scene you remember and 401 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: people will try to help you figure out what movie 402 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: it was. I finally figured it out and it was 403 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: the dumbest looking Michael Doodakov action movie. Uh and so 404 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: so yeah, I got to have that experience of looking 405 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: back on the thing that terrified me and realizing it 406 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: it is actually hilarious tripe. Yeah. Well, I was fascinated 407 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: by this question from Frederick in part because I love 408 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: subway movies and there's a subway scene in the movie. 409 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm instantly a little more into it, even if the 410 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: film is not that good. Um and if you know, 411 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: throw a skeleton man into the mix and and I'm 412 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: definitely there. But I was I was racking my my 413 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: brain here trying to think what it could be. And uh, 414 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: I was thinking of of Terror Train as one possibility. 415 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: That's the Jamie Lee Curtis and that one does feature 416 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: a number of masks but I don't think there's a 417 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: skeleton mask in the mix. There's also Horror Express, which 418 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: is that Spanish co production that we've we've discussed recently 419 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: on Weird House that has tell Telly savalas Christopher Lee 420 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Peter Cushing uh in it, and that does have kind 421 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: of a skeletal looking creature in it, though I don't 422 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: know if there's a scene. I haven't seen it recently. 423 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a scene that completely matches 424 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: up with this, So you might look to those two films. 425 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, of course, with any kind of childhood 426 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: memory situations possible that you know, you have sort of 427 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: things combined and recombined. Every time we pull a memory 428 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: out of the out of the closet, we manipulated a 429 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: little bit. So the memories that stick with us the 430 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: longest like this are actually the ones that we can 431 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: trust the least. Uh So it's entirely possible that that 432 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: monster No has has no true predecessor in the cinematic world. 433 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: Perhaps he is your monster, and therefore we can do 434 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: nothing to expel it. Sweet Dreams, Frederick. But I'm gonna 435 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: keep a lookout. I'm gonna keep a lookout, because I 436 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: a few things are certain in life, except that I'll 437 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: probably keep watching terrible movies with subway scenes in them, 438 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: and if I see this creature, I will let you know. Okay, 439 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: we got around things out with one last message. This 440 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: comes from Brian subject line Bomba Dill. The entire message 441 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: reads Ian Anderson? Why not so? Ian Anderson the the 442 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: singer and composer of the what what genre? Would you 443 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: call him? Prog rock band Jethro Tell? Yeah, I think 444 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: that's where they're generally classified. I'm actually not very well 445 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: versed in Jethro Toll. I have to admit I had 446 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: to look up to see who Ian Anderson was because 447 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: I'm just not familiar with him or his work. You know, 448 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: like Locomotive Breath. You know you've heard that one, right, Yeah, 449 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean I've heard some some Jethro Tolls songs. I 450 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: mean it's you know, they're they're unavoidable. But I just 451 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't have a good you know, haven't I haven't. 452 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: I haven't done a deep dive on them, and I 453 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: never listened to them growing up, So I just don't 454 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: have a good feel for for him or his work. 455 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: But I looked you know, looking up a picture of him, 456 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I could, I could see this man 457 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: is Tom Bomba Dill. I don't know. I want to 458 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: be open minded about this, and I've sily we know 459 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: Ian Anderson can can sing. I'm sure he could built 460 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: out those rob English songs. He probably has already done it. 461 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: I bet I bet Jeff Rotell has like recorded Bomba 462 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: Dill songs on albums before, because I think they're those 463 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: kinds of weirdos. Um. But but I don't know. I 464 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: don't know if he seems round enough to be like 465 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: I feel like Tom Bomba Dill has gotta be gotta 466 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: gotta have a rounder more cherubic energy. Yeah, yeah, I 467 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: think you're probably right. All right, Well, we'll leave everyone 468 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: else to to to weigh in on this. If not 469 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: Jethro Tull, then who uh? The quest for Obamba Dill continues. Um, 470 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of great still got 471 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: a lot of great possibilities out there. In the meantime, 472 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: if you would like to check out other episodes of 473 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Stuff to Blow Your Mind listener mail, well it comes 474 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: out every Monday, and the Stuff to Blow Your Mind 475 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: podcast feed. We've got core science episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 476 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: We have an artifact or for a couple of months, 477 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: The Monster Fact, publishing on Wednesday's Weird How Cinema on Fridays, 478 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: and a vault episode over the weekend. 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