WEBVTT - Ep. 6: Analyzing Depth Chart Before Preseason Week 1 | Jags A.M. Podcast 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.240 We got our first look at the unofficial depth chart 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.520 earlier this week. Which workie do you guys think has 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:10.039 the best chance of moving up before the start of 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:10.480 the season. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.440 I'm gonna go with Raymond Bahassik, the young defensive tackle 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.000 from North Carolina who had no expectations but has played 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.280 pretty well the last couple of weeks. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.400 He could go from three to two none but Antonio Johnson. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.040 Welcome into our Wednesday edition of jag XAM. I'm Kennannie Stevens, 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.240 Brian Sexton, John Osier with me this morning. Today's show 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.600 is brought to you by Jet Home Loans and training 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.720 Camp about to get going. Players aren't quite out there, 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.760 some of them might be. They're gonna get their stretch 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.320 on soon and get practice going, and got a game 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.960 on Saturday. Starting to feel like coming together. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:01.400 Here. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.399 We got that unofficial depth chart, which is so official. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.480 Well that's the reason there are really no surprises on 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.480 it right now. I mean, you look at a guy, 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.319 you look at a guy like Antonio Johnson right who 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.480 is three right now behind Daniel Thomas. Clearly he is 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.840 a better prospect than Daniel Thomas's. And I really like 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.280 Daniel Thomas and waited for him to become a guy 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.440 who you could count on here. But he's three because 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.280 behind Daniel Thomas, because he's a rookie. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.480 In a week that could change, ye And I said 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:37.240 him at the top because he's clearly impressed. And is 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.679 he ahead of Daniel Thomas? I don't know. You get 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.720 the sense of the coaches believe that they have seen 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.320 Daniel Thomas do the role so much that they don't 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.880 want to switch that up. But maybe it's him. I 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:52.800 don't know that any of them will move up from 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.320 their spots before the regular season regular season, because it 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.240 feels like that's sort of where they make sense. But 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.240 if you get a numbers thing at safety, maybe Antonio 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:01.720 in the past. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.800 And I brought up Vahasik because I watched him the 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.560 last couple of days when they were in full pads, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.720 and I was, who is that guy? We're in fifty 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.160 nine and that's Vahasik, who the seventh round pick from 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.480 North Carolina that you know, overlooked in many cases, not 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.119 a guy that's gonna contribute this year or maybe even next. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.960 But you can see the physical skills there. You can 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.079 see why they drafted him. He's tough, He's. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.040 Strong a project they want to work on for sure. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.720 We'll touch a little bit more on that in a minute, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.000 but let's start with our big things. First big thing 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.240 is buzz. We always talk about people not giving Trevor 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.880 Lawrence the respect that he deserves. But Brian, you said, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.639 you saw some lists and you saw some things where 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.000 he was getting maybe a little of the credit we 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:37.680 think he may ye. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.720 Do you know the Athletic had him in that tier two, 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.079 right just below the elite, and you know who the 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.800 elites are, the Mahomes, the Burroughs, the Josh Allen's, Aaron 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.200 Rodgers of the world. They put Justin Herbert in that 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.040 and I think when you look at his stats and 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.600 the things he's done in his first couple of years, 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.600 he belongs there. And then there's that second tier of quarterbacks, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:03:01.280 and they had Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson and then Trevor. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.560 But listening to their podcast, it seems like, you know, 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.840 they see a lot of buzz for Trevor moving in, 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.160 you know, being that guy the weapons in his skill set. 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.480 And then yesterday Bill Barnwell on ESPN site had Trevor 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.120 as one of those guys who could jump into the 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:20.760 MVP conversation in his third season in the NFL. So 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.200 whether he can or he does, or any of that, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.720 there is a lot of buzz about Trevor Lawrence two 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:27.760 weeks into training camp. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:32.079 I think those assessments, if you look at it as 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.960 objectively as he can to make perfect sense, Jaguars fans 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.080 all off season would get very upset with list. People 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.800 get mad at lists, Brian because their guy isn't the top. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:42.560 I get mad at list. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.480 That's what journalism is these days. Lists. If you look 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.680 at Trevor, that's sort of where if you step back 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.920 from it all, he's had a half a really really 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.640 good season and he was unbelievable for some moments. So 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.000 it's given fans a lot of hope and I think 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.960 he's going to be among that elite. But that's his 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.080 storyline right now. He is about where they have him, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.160 with an incredibly good chance to go join the elite. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.920 This could be the year that happens, but if you're 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.960 trying to be objective about it, you can't put him 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:14.400 there yet. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.240 No, and I didn't suggest that he should be there yet. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.039 What's interesting is a year ago Kai he was a 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.839 guy that everyone was disappointed in. Right, the national media 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.880 didn't take the time to look at the prince of 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.120 darkness who had been here in twenty twenty one, right, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.719 and what he had nearly done to this kid. So 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.320 now all of a sudden to see it just dramatically 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.719 change one hundred and eighty degrees, if you will, from 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.640 the start of camp last year to the start of 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.320 camp this year is amazing. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:47.680 Right, It's good to have good buzz, right, we always 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.640 it's always when it's the other way around, that's not great. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.720 When it's a high expectation they're not delivering. But now 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.800 it's kind of like, oh, well, we kind of maybe 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.960 wrote that off or weren't thinking about it. Now it's 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.880 like the way they finished the last season. Now people 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.000 are thinking about it different way in terms of these 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:02.080 aren't the same old Jacks. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.680 If you go back and look at the last nine 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.960 games of last year, fifteen touchdowns and two interceptions, his 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.520 completion percentage was seventy five point five percent, which led 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.600 all quarterbacks during that time, and his quarterback rating was 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.320 one o four point six That over those nine weeks 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.760 was the highest quarterback efficiency rating in the league. So 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.719 over the second half of the season, and John, you 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.599 mentioned that he really had one half of one season 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.400 that you could look at and go that was the 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.440 elite stuff. The numbers back it up. It was elite stuff. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.039 He earned the buzz that he is getting right now, 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.320 and we're out there watching him every day and the 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.240 national media have been through and now we're getting a 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.800 look at him with the weapons with another season in 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:40.440 the offense. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:41.159 It is. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:43.400 It's a good buzz. John. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.080 Yeah, there's no reason to think that he won't be 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:51.000 there at the end, but meaning among the elite group. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.320 But you have to do it for seventeen games. He 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.640 has to up to him assistant, and that's the storyline 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:58.000 this year. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.480 It will be up to Trevor to prove it he does. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.320 Rick Meyer, if you recall all the way back in 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.520 the early nineties, was the AFC rookie or the offensive 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.200 rookie of the year with the Seattle Seahawks and was 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.520 a terrible bust three years later. So I get your point. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.240 Not gonna happen here though, So never mind, We're gonna 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.440 move to our big thing. Number two is reps. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:15.640 Now. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.800 Trevor talked a little bit. We had that in our 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.599 last show about he likes to be out there in 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.880 the preseason get the feel of a real game. And 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.039 Doug came out on NFL Network during his interview to 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.000 say that we will see the starters a little bit 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:28.400 on Saturday in Dallas. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.839 You know, I'm a big believer in the starters playing, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.479 and I really feel like they need to feel sort 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.400 of that energy that comes with that comes with starting 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.480 a football game. And so I did it last year, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.400 you know, with the guys, and anticipate right now, We're 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.919 still a few days away, but anticipating I'm getting you know, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.960 maybe a series or two, you know, this weekend. And 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.359 you know, we're still in that evaluation mode. As you know, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:52.760 we got a lot of young players that we need 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.120 to evaluate. So they're also going to get a lot 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.320 of time, you know, in this football game. But right now, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.960 I anticipate our starters playing, you know, playing a little bit, 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.160 at least getting a series or two in this game. 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.440 See, the quarterbacks are on the same page, and by 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.960 that I mean Trevor Lawrence and former quarterback Doug Peterson. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.760 What's the ideal amount of time we see Trevor in 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:11.760 this game on Saturday? 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:19.360 Oh, I wou'd say two series, if the first series 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.320 is eight plays in a touchdown, one series, just enough 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.200 to where you don't overdo this. But I think there 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.640 are coaches and maybe dougs like this. If you get 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.280 a good one in, then get him out. If you 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.040 get two clunkers, then you say, well, you had your chance. 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.440 Let's go wrap it up next week. You know, let's 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:40.720 go do it again next week. I'm not going to 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.600 leave you out there for five to get you hurt. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.680 But I think plays twelve. 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.080 Yeah, I mean, he had twelve past attempts in the 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.960 game against the Browns here last year, so that seems right, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.280 and you build towards next week where he'll play the 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.440 first half and maybe the first series or the third quarter, 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.280 and that'll be it for him in the preses. And 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.080 so a little bit of work to get warmed up for. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.760 Detroit is echo for all the first string starters. Do 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.040 you feel like some position groups may need a little 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.280 more time out there? What do you look at at 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.440 this point in the preseason. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.280 I think you might give the offensive line some more 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.040 time because you are working through I mean, you've got 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.559 play cancer is going to start for Shatley and little 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.520 is in it left tackle, and obviously Anton Harrison's there, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.960 so and you might want to give CJ. Bether a 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.160 running start with the first team line. I could see 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:27.880 the first team line playing more than two series. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.520 It sounded from what Doug said this morning meeting with 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:38.040 the media that the veteran starters will all play about 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.600 the same So I would expect that to be that number. 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.560 We're talking about twelve plays just two series, depend on 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.400 how it goes. But then he mentioned Anton Harrison could 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.480 play a little bit more. I think the rookies who 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.400 expect to contribute will get a lot of that second 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.599 or a second and third series through the middle of 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.920 the third quarter type thing. But he may be the 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.679 only guy who really fits into that. Harrison, Bigsby, guys 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.800 like that could I expect to expect Bigsby, for example, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.800 to get some work with the ones, because it seems 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.360 like you want to work that in a little. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:13.640 Bit, which is why you'd leave them in a little 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:14.000 bit longer. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.400 Yeah, so then you leave the rookies in a little 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:16.079 bit longer. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.200 All right, moving on to big thing three. Touch on 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:20.920 this in a little bit as well. So we have 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.160 that unofficial depth chart which doesn't mean a ton because 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.240 a lot of it just looks very similar to last year. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.800 There were a couple of notes that we do want 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.720 to bring up just if you haven't had a chance 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.000 to look at it yet. Right now, we have Blake 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:33.640 Hants is going to be in it left guard. That's 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.160 because Tyler Shatley has not been cleared to play yet, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.480 and Anton Harrison, as you mentioned, is going to be 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.800 starting at right tackle. Did Doug say whether or not 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.240 he was going to be playing like full go, because 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.240 we've seen him help out a little bit and perhaps. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.679 What Doug said he'll play, And as I said, he 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.440 actually specified that he could play a little longer than 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.520 the starter, So it sounds like he's he's back. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.280 Getting set up for next week in Detroit, right. I mean, 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.080 that's where you're really going to show up, and we're 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.480 going to talk about that a lot next week. But 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.120 that's where you want to get a lot of really 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.400 good work in. It's where the starters will get their 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.040 most valuable work in of the entire preseason. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.640 We talked about our at this at the broadcast meeting 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.520 yesterday and there were some differing opinions. Tony Miscelli and 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.439 some of the other people were trying to decide whether 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.440 we see the starters mostly in Detroit or mostly against Miami. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.360 I think Tony thought some of them would play more 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.440 in Miami, but most of us thought you'd see him 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.280 more in Detroit. What do you guys think in terms 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.280 of starters. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.920 In the trend that would if if that's the case, 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.600 would be the first time Tony was ever wrong. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.800 Oh, don't make me misquote him now, I'm scared of misremembering. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.520 So, uh, yeah, I would expect them to play mostly 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.440 in Detroit and then not play against Miami. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.520 But oh yeah, here's the difference. What are we three 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.520 seasons now to three preseason games and you learn, Yeah, 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.400 you have two weeks between the preseason finale and the 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:57.199 regular season opener. So if you wanted to get a 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:58.079 little bit of work in. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:59.600 Again, still have a full break before. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.080 Yeah, there's still two weeks to get guys, you know, 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.640 ready to go. So I guess what I'm saying is, John, 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.160 when you and I started in this thing, there was 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.560 a definite rhythm every year too. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:14.080 There's also four games and different was a different deal. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:18.960 But now it's kind of changing every year. Well, coaches 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:20.479 is a hard spot. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.959 Coaches in general don't like making their own decisions on this. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.400 They like following the league trend because it's safe and 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.000 just like most people. So, I think what we're seeing 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:35.760 now is the process. We're three years into it. We're 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:40.480 seeing the process of league think trying to take hold. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.080 Meaning what's everybody else doing? 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:43.360 Oh? 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.079 It is Bill Belichick in twenty eleven in the preseason 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.560 finale against this team in New England, where he sat 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.000 every one of his starters on both sides of the ball, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.040 and since then, the third or the last preseason game 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.520 has been in consequential for starters. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.600 Bill Belichick making the trends that what you're. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.200 Saying, He made it easy for those guys to do 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.199 their thing because Jack came out that night and do 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.080 the exact same thing. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.600 Set all all set too. Yeah, all right, Looking forward, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.360 we got a lot more coming up. We're gonna get 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.559 a peek at training camp. The tight ends are getting 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.040 in there and getting things done, and that'll be a 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.160 fun group for us to watch. We'll keep an eye 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.719 on things and we'll be right back with more here 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:29.280 on jags am. Welcome back to jags am. Price dot 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.920 Com is the easiest way to save money with comparison 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.680 shopping cash back coupons all in one, it's free. Tryprice 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.600 dot com today. What day is it? Wednesday, August ninth, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.640 the mosing track of days. At this point, I think 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.520 we're on day twelve training camp. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.800 Today is day twelve, and hey, tomorrow is the thirteenth 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.760 practice in the end of open practice. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.760 Open practice, and then we have games and soon enough 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.480 the season will be here. This is all good things. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.160 Players are out there right now. We're gonna go over 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.800 the fifty three. That's where we look at players that 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.800 are maybe on the bubble of this team, or players 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.920 that need to have a really good training camp if 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.360 they want to have a spot, a meaningful place on 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.120 this team. As the fifty three begin, we are going 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.800 to start with John today. Who did you pick for 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.520 the fifty three and who are you looking at to 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.000 make a difference for themselves in training camp? 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.360 Well, I went to Blake Canson. I don't think the 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.319 fact that he's never one in the depth chart means 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.760 that he's the guy that, if all things being equal, 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:27.840 would start at left guard. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.800 Right. That's what we mean by the depth chart being 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.040 kind of where it's at right now. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.640 But for right now he's there. And I think what's 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.200 significant there is you've got Ben Barts, who I think, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.480 when healthy, will come back and be that guy. And 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.400 then I think Shatt will go back to being the 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:48.880 swing guy when he becomes healthy. But you need guys 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:54.240 in this league who can be your ninth tenth up 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.880 and down from the practice squad guy there if you 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.480 need it. And on the offensive line, those guys are very, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.360 very import because if you get an injury or two, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.720 all of a sudden, you look up and that guy's 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:05.960 protecting Trevor Lawrence. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:06.240 Yep. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.840 It certainly seems like out of the abyss that is 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:15.640 the backup offensive lineman, Blake Hants has become the guy 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.679 that they feel like, Okay, we can rely on this 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.800 in a pinch. And I think if he's not on 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.840 the fifty three, I think he's one of those ten 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.480 that becomes very important with the practice squad more and 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.760 more Brian being being an extension of the roster without 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:33.040 a doubt. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.640 And I think you mentioned I was looking something up 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.720 that he's a guy who has played left hand right, 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.280 He can play tackle if you need. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.640 Yeah, So he's a versatile guy and well, he's also 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:46.480 been He's also been around a minute. It's difficult for 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.360 rookie free agent offensive lineman to catch on and be 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:57.280 a legitimate seventh guy in your rotation. He's been in camps. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.960 He came into the league in nineteen, so he's more 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.800 a grown man with a few years experience, a few 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.280 years around the league. Those are usually the guys that 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:06.720 you wants that emergency. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.800 Gay versatility on the offensive line is immeasurable, and to 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.560 have the depth that they have on this team, that's 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.200 very fortunate. I don't think they're going to go to 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:15.720 waste with that and keep as many as they can. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.320 Right we're seeing it right now. I mean the ability 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.320 to plug him in because you're on your essential your 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.600 third left guard. Chatley was the backup and Ben Bartch 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.640 goes down. Now you've got hands you've got to put in. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:27.840 You know, Cam Robinson goes down. Last year they put 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.440 Walker Little in, and now Cam suspended, Walker Little needs 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.240 to play. I mean, it's the versatility issue, and it 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.920 goes back to Phil Rauscher and what a good young 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:36.960 line coach he is. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.160 We complained about a lot of things, but we can't 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.400 like normally, if you have that kind of injury on 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.400 your offensive line, you're in a lot of trouble. But 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.480 fortunately for us, they're able to deep group is a 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.000 very deep group. So that's a strong suit for this team. Brian, 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.120 who do you have for your player for the fifty 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:52.480 three US? 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.920 Well, I'm going with you, Sir Abdullah. You know, third 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.400 day of the draft pick pass rusher, which everyone is 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.520 focused on. And I know that there's a lot of 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.400 angst now that Justin Houston has signed, and there are 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.360 visits Jami Clowney's in Baltimore today and people are throwing 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.120 their hands up. So you and I were looking at 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:15.120 the numbers yesterday. The Jaguars had thirty five sacks, half 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.400 of what the Eagles had, who led the league, and 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.480 the Jaguars were twenty fifth. Let me throw a number 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.200 at you though, and this is from the Cowboys last year. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.920 The Dallas Cowboys led the league in pressures right, impacting 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.400 the quarterback two hundred and seventy one times. Do you 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.440 know who was where the Jaguars come. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:31.960 In pretty high, really high. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:36.000 They just weren't two hundred and fifty three third, which 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.240 means that the Jaguars got good pressure in the quarterback. 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.040 Last year they didn't finish, so we're expecting that from 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.560 Trayvon Walker. We hope we see that this year in 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:49.480 a varied defense. Josh Allen alluded to that calebon Chay 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:50.760 Sun's going to have a chance. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:51.040 Right. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.240 I haven't seen a lot from him on the training 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.200 camp field, but your syre of Duel is going to 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.920 have an opportunity in these preseason games to see if 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.000 he can become that third guy. He was a prolific 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.520 pass rusher at Louisville to get twenty two or twenty 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.480 three sacks in two seasons there where he was a starter. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.880 They need a third pass rusher, a change it up guy. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.879 And remember he's one of those do a lot of 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.000 things guys on defense because he's not just unique and Gockway. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.920 For all of his pass rush prowess, say that three 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.960 times fast, no, okay. For all that he could do 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.439 rushing the passer going forward, he was a non factor 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.359 against the run. He was an effort guy, but he 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.679 couldn't hold up against the run. This is a guy 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.919 who can which allows Mike Caldwell to do some different 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.159 things with him. Bob Sutton and Mike to sit up 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.400 late at night on Tuesdays and scheme away to get 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.080 him into the game plan. So I'm watching him really 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:47.160 closely this week and against Dallas because they really need 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.119 a young guy to come through, whether it's him or. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.560 Caleb On and change is necessary. Josh Allen himself is 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.879 saying they're getting different play calls going in practice and 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:55.960 what they're doing in training camp. He hopes transitions into 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.360 the games because obviously they struggled with the pass rush 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.840 last year and he's hoping that the changes will stick. 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:04.240 So just to connect a couple things real quick. Third 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.360 most pressures two hundred and fifty three right, Kansas City 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.320 was second to two fifty five twenty five takeaways, fifth 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.240 most in the league. The Jaguars are close, right, I 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.120 mean they're close in Samirius last year. Can they get 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.520 back to this level but top it off and increase 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:21.040 the sacks? 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.280 And they have to. I will touch on another thing 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.640