1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: We got our first look at the unofficial depth chart 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: earlier this week. Which workie do you guys think has 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: the best chance of moving up before the start of 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: the season. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Raymond Bahassik, the young defensive tackle 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: from North Carolina who had no expectations but has played 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: pretty well the last couple of weeks. 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: He could go from three to two none but Antonio Johnson. 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Welcome into our Wednesday edition of jag XAM. I'm Kennannie Stevens, 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, John Osier with me this morning. Today's show 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Jet Home Loans and training 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Camp about to get going. Players aren't quite out there, 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: some of them might be. They're gonna get their stretch 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: on soon and get practice going, and got a game 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Starting to feel like coming together. 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: Here. 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: We got that unofficial depth chart, which is so official. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: Well that's the reason there are really no surprises on 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: it right now. I mean, you look at a guy, 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: you look at a guy like Antonio Johnson right who 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: is three right now behind Daniel Thomas. Clearly he is 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: a better prospect than Daniel Thomas's. And I really like 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: Daniel Thomas and waited for him to become a guy 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: who you could count on here. But he's three because 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: behind Daniel Thomas, because he's a rookie. 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: In a week that could change, ye And I said 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: him at the top because he's clearly impressed. And is 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: he ahead of Daniel Thomas? I don't know. You get 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: the sense of the coaches believe that they have seen 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: Daniel Thomas do the role so much that they don't 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: want to switch that up. But maybe it's him. I 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: don't know that any of them will move up from 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: their spots before the regular season regular season, because it 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: feels like that's sort of where they make sense. But 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: if you get a numbers thing at safety, maybe Antonio 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: in the past. 37 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: And I brought up Vahasik because I watched him the 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: last couple of days when they were in full pads, 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: and I was, who is that guy? We're in fifty 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: nine and that's Vahasik, who the seventh round pick from 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: North Carolina that you know, overlooked in many cases, not 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 2: a guy that's gonna contribute this year or maybe even next. 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: But you can see the physical skills there. You can 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: see why they drafted him. He's tough, He's. 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Strong a project they want to work on for sure. 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: We'll touch a little bit more on that in a minute, 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: but let's start with our big things. First big thing 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: is buzz. We always talk about people not giving Trevor 49 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Lawrence the respect that he deserves. But Brian, you said, 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: you saw some lists and you saw some things where 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: he was getting maybe a little of the credit we 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: think he may ye. 53 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: Do you know the Athletic had him in that tier two, 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: right just below the elite, and you know who the 55 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: elites are, the Mahomes, the Burroughs, the Josh Allen's, Aaron 56 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Rodgers of the world. They put Justin Herbert in that 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: and I think when you look at his stats and 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: the things he's done in his first couple of years, 59 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: he belongs there. And then there's that second tier of quarterbacks, 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: and they had Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson and then Trevor. 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: But listening to their podcast, it seems like, you know, 62 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: they see a lot of buzz for Trevor moving in, 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: you know, being that guy the weapons in his skill set. 64 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: And then yesterday Bill Barnwell on ESPN site had Trevor 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: as one of those guys who could jump into the 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: MVP conversation in his third season in the NFL. So 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: whether he can or he does, or any of that, 68 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: there is a lot of buzz about Trevor Lawrence two 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: weeks into training camp. 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: I think those assessments, if you look at it as 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: objectively as he can to make perfect sense, Jaguars fans 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: all off season would get very upset with list. People 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: get mad at lists, Brian because their guy isn't the top. 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: I get mad at list. 75 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: That's what journalism is these days. Lists. If you look 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: at Trevor, that's sort of where if you step back 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: from it all, he's had a half a really really 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: good season and he was unbelievable for some moments. So 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: it's given fans a lot of hope and I think 80 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: he's going to be among that elite. But that's his 81 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: storyline right now. He is about where they have him, 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: with an incredibly good chance to go join the elite. 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: This could be the year that happens, but if you're 84 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: trying to be objective about it, you can't put him 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: there yet. 86 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: No, and I didn't suggest that he should be there yet. 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: What's interesting is a year ago Kai he was a 88 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: guy that everyone was disappointed in. Right, the national media 89 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: didn't take the time to look at the prince of 90 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: darkness who had been here in twenty twenty one, right, 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: and what he had nearly done to this kid. So 92 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden to see it just dramatically 93 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: change one hundred and eighty degrees, if you will, from 94 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: the start of camp last year to the start of 95 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: camp this year is amazing. 96 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Right, It's good to have good buzz, right, we always 97 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: it's always when it's the other way around, that's not great. 98 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: When it's a high expectation they're not delivering. But now 99 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, oh, well, we kind of maybe 100 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: wrote that off or weren't thinking about it. Now it's 101 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: like the way they finished the last season. Now people 102 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: are thinking about it different way in terms of these 103 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: aren't the same old Jacks. 104 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: If you go back and look at the last nine 105 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: games of last year, fifteen touchdowns and two interceptions, his 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: completion percentage was seventy five point five percent, which led 107 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: all quarterbacks during that time, and his quarterback rating was 108 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: one o four point six That over those nine weeks 109 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: was the highest quarterback efficiency rating in the league. So 110 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: over the second half of the season, and John, you 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: mentioned that he really had one half of one season 112 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: that you could look at and go that was the 113 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: elite stuff. The numbers back it up. It was elite stuff. 114 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: He earned the buzz that he is getting right now, 115 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: and we're out there watching him every day and the 116 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: national media have been through and now we're getting a 117 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: look at him with the weapons with another season in 118 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: the offense. 119 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: It is. 120 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: It's a good buzz. John. 121 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no reason to think that he won't be 122 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: there at the end, but meaning among the elite group. 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: But you have to do it for seventeen games. He 124 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: has to up to him assistant, and that's the storyline 125 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: this year. 126 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: It will be up to Trevor to prove it he does. 127 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: Rick Meyer, if you recall all the way back in 128 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: the early nineties, was the AFC rookie or the offensive 129 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: rookie of the year with the Seattle Seahawks and was 130 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: a terrible bust three years later. So I get your point. 131 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Not gonna happen here though, So never mind, We're gonna 132 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: move to our big thing. Number two is reps. 133 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: Now. 134 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: Trevor talked a little bit. We had that in our 135 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: last show about he likes to be out there in 136 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: the preseason get the feel of a real game. And 137 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: Doug came out on NFL Network during his interview to 138 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: say that we will see the starters a little bit 139 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: on Saturday in Dallas. 140 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: You know, I'm a big believer in the starters playing, 141 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 4: and I really feel like they need to feel sort 142 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: of that energy that comes with that comes with starting 143 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: a football game. And so I did it last year, 144 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: you know, with the guys, and anticipate right now, We're 145 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 4: still a few days away, but anticipating I'm getting you know, 146 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: maybe a series or two, you know, this weekend. And 147 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 4: you know, we're still in that evaluation mode. As you know, 148 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: we got a lot of young players that we need 149 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: to evaluate. So they're also going to get a lot 150 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: of time, you know, in this football game. But right now, 151 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: I anticipate our starters playing, you know, playing a little bit, 152 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 4: at least getting a series or two in this game. 153 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: See, the quarterbacks are on the same page, and by 154 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: that I mean Trevor Lawrence and former quarterback Doug Peterson. 155 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: What's the ideal amount of time we see Trevor in 156 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: this game on Saturday? 157 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I wou'd say two series, if the first series 158 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: is eight plays in a touchdown, one series, just enough 159 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: to where you don't overdo this. But I think there 160 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: are coaches and maybe dougs like this. If you get 161 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: a good one in, then get him out. If you 162 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: get two clunkers, then you say, well, you had your chance. 163 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: Let's go wrap it up next week. You know, let's 164 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: go do it again next week. I'm not going to 165 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: leave you out there for five to get you hurt. 166 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: But I think plays twelve. 167 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he had twelve past attempts in the 168 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: game against the Browns here last year, so that seems right, 169 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: and you build towards next week where he'll play the 170 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: first half and maybe the first series or the third quarter, 171 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: and that'll be it for him in the preses. And 172 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: so a little bit of work to get warmed up for. 173 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: Detroit is echo for all the first string starters. Do 174 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: you feel like some position groups may need a little 175 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: more time out there? What do you look at at 176 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: this point in the preseason. 177 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: I think you might give the offensive line some more 178 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: time because you are working through I mean, you've got 179 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 2: play cancer is going to start for Shatley and little 180 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: is in it left tackle, and obviously Anton Harrison's there, 181 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: so and you might want to give CJ. Bether a 182 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: running start with the first team line. I could see 183 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: the first team line playing more than two series. 184 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: It sounded from what Doug said this morning meeting with 185 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: the media that the veteran starters will all play about 186 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: the same So I would expect that to be that number. 187 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: We're talking about twelve plays just two series, depend on 188 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: how it goes. But then he mentioned Anton Harrison could 189 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: play a little bit more. I think the rookies who 190 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: expect to contribute will get a lot of that second 191 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 3: or a second and third series through the middle of 192 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: the third quarter type thing. But he may be the 193 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: only guy who really fits into that. Harrison, Bigsby, guys 194 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: like that could I expect to expect Bigsby, for example, 195 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: to get some work with the ones, because it seems 196 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: like you want to work that in a little. 197 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: Bit, which is why you'd leave them in a little 198 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: bit longer. 199 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so then you leave the rookies in a little 200 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: bit longer. 201 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: All right, moving on to big thing three. Touch on 202 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: this in a little bit as well. So we have 203 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: that unofficial depth chart which doesn't mean a ton because 204 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: a lot of it just looks very similar to last year. 205 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: There were a couple of notes that we do want 206 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: to bring up just if you haven't had a chance 207 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: to look at it yet. Right now, we have Blake 208 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Hants is going to be in it left guard. That's 209 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: because Tyler Shatley has not been cleared to play yet, 210 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: and Anton Harrison, as you mentioned, is going to be 211 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: starting at right tackle. Did Doug say whether or not 212 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: he was going to be playing like full go, because 213 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: we've seen him help out a little bit and perhaps. 214 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 3: What Doug said he'll play, And as I said, he 215 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: actually specified that he could play a little longer than 216 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: the starter, So it sounds like he's he's back. 217 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: Getting set up for next week in Detroit, right. I mean, 218 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: that's where you're really going to show up, and we're 219 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: going to talk about that a lot next week. But 220 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: that's where you want to get a lot of really 221 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: good work in. It's where the starters will get their 222 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: most valuable work in of the entire preseason. 223 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: We talked about our at this at the broadcast meeting 224 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: yesterday and there were some differing opinions. Tony Miscelli and 225 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: some of the other people were trying to decide whether 226 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: we see the starters mostly in Detroit or mostly against Miami. 227 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: I think Tony thought some of them would play more 228 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: in Miami, but most of us thought you'd see him 229 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: more in Detroit. What do you guys think in terms 230 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: of starters. 231 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: In the trend that would if if that's the case, 232 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: would be the first time Tony was ever wrong. 233 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh, don't make me misquote him now, I'm scared of misremembering. 234 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: So, uh, yeah, I would expect them to play mostly 235 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: in Detroit and then not play against Miami. 236 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: But oh yeah, here's the difference. What are we three 237 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: seasons now to three preseason games and you learn, Yeah, 238 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: you have two weeks between the preseason finale and the 239 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: regular season opener. So if you wanted to get a 240 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: little bit of work in. 241 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: Again, still have a full break before. 242 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still two weeks to get guys, you know, 243 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: ready to go. So I guess what I'm saying is, John, 244 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: when you and I started in this thing, there was 245 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: a definite rhythm every year too. 246 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: There's also four games and different was a different deal. 247 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: But now it's kind of changing every year. Well, coaches 248 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,479 Speaker 2: is a hard spot. 249 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 3: Coaches in general don't like making their own decisions on this. 250 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: They like following the league trend because it's safe and 251 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: just like most people. So, I think what we're seeing 252 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: now is the process. We're three years into it. We're 253 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: seeing the process of league think trying to take hold. 254 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: Meaning what's everybody else doing? 255 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 5: Oh? 256 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 2: It is Bill Belichick in twenty eleven in the preseason 257 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: finale against this team in New England, where he sat 258 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: every one of his starters on both sides of the ball, 259 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: and since then, the third or the last preseason game 260 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: has been in consequential for starters. 261 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick making the trends that what you're. 262 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: Saying, He made it easy for those guys to do 263 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: their thing because Jack came out that night and do 264 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: the exact same thing. 265 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Set all all set too. Yeah, all right, Looking forward, 266 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: we got a lot more coming up. We're gonna get 267 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: a peek at training camp. The tight ends are getting 268 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: in there and getting things done, and that'll be a 269 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: fun group for us to watch. We'll keep an eye 270 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: on things and we'll be right back with more here 271 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: on jags am. Welcome back to jags am. Price dot 272 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: Com is the easiest way to save money with comparison 273 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: shopping cash back coupons all in one, it's free. Tryprice 274 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: dot com today. What day is it? Wednesday, August ninth, 275 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: the mosing track of days. At this point, I think 276 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: we're on day twelve training camp. 277 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: Today is day twelve, and hey, tomorrow is the thirteenth 278 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: practice in the end of open practice. 279 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: Open practice, and then we have games and soon enough 280 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: the season will be here. This is all good things. 281 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Players are out there right now. We're gonna go over 282 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: the fifty three. That's where we look at players that 283 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: are maybe on the bubble of this team, or players 284 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: that need to have a really good training camp if 285 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: they want to have a spot, a meaningful place on 286 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: this team. As the fifty three begin, we are going 287 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: to start with John today. Who did you pick for 288 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: the fifty three and who are you looking at to 289 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: make a difference for themselves in training camp? 290 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: Well, I went to Blake Canson. I don't think the 291 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: fact that he's never one in the depth chart means 292 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: that he's the guy that, if all things being equal, 293 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: would start at left guard. 294 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: Right. That's what we mean by the depth chart being 295 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: kind of where it's at right now. 296 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: But for right now he's there. And I think what's 297 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: significant there is you've got Ben Barts, who I think, 298 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: when healthy, will come back and be that guy. And 299 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: then I think Shatt will go back to being the 300 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: swing guy when he becomes healthy. But you need guys 301 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: in this league who can be your ninth tenth up 302 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: and down from the practice squad guy there if you 303 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: need it. And on the offensive line, those guys are very, 304 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: very import because if you get an injury or two, 305 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you look up and that guy's 306 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: protecting Trevor Lawrence. 307 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: Yep. 308 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: It certainly seems like out of the abyss that is 309 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: the backup offensive lineman, Blake Hants has become the guy 310 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: that they feel like, Okay, we can rely on this 311 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: in a pinch. And I think if he's not on 312 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: the fifty three, I think he's one of those ten 313 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: that becomes very important with the practice squad more and 314 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: more Brian being being an extension of the roster without 315 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: a doubt. 316 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: And I think you mentioned I was looking something up 317 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: that he's a guy who has played left hand right, 318 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: He can play tackle if you need. 319 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's a versatile guy and well, he's also 320 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: been He's also been around a minute. It's difficult for 321 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: rookie free agent offensive lineman to catch on and be 322 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: a legitimate seventh guy in your rotation. He's been in camps. 323 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: He came into the league in nineteen, so he's more 324 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: a grown man with a few years experience, a few 325 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: years around the league. Those are usually the guys that 326 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: you wants that emergency. 327 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: Gay versatility on the offensive line is immeasurable, and to 328 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: have the depth that they have on this team, that's 329 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: very fortunate. I don't think they're going to go to 330 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: waste with that and keep as many as they can. 331 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: Right we're seeing it right now. I mean the ability 332 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: to plug him in because you're on your essential your 333 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: third left guard. Chatley was the backup and Ben Bartch 334 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: goes down. Now you've got hands you've got to put in. 335 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: You know, Cam Robinson goes down. Last year they put 336 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: Walker Little in, and now Cam suspended, Walker Little needs 337 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: to play. I mean, it's the versatility issue, and it 338 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: goes back to Phil Rauscher and what a good young 339 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: line coach he is. 340 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: We complained about a lot of things, but we can't 341 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: like normally, if you have that kind of injury on 342 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: your offensive line, you're in a lot of trouble. But 343 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: fortunately for us, they're able to deep group is a 344 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: very deep group. So that's a strong suit for this team. Brian, 345 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: who do you have for your player for the fifty 346 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: three US? 347 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going with you, Sir Abdullah. You know, third 348 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: day of the draft pick pass rusher, which everyone is 349 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: focused on. And I know that there's a lot of 350 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: angst now that Justin Houston has signed, and there are 351 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: visits Jami Clowney's in Baltimore today and people are throwing 352 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: their hands up. So you and I were looking at 353 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: the numbers yesterday. The Jaguars had thirty five sacks, half 354 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: of what the Eagles had, who led the league, and 355 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: the Jaguars were twenty fifth. Let me throw a number 356 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: at you though, and this is from the Cowboys last year. 357 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys led the league in pressures right, impacting 358 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: the quarterback two hundred and seventy one times. Do you 359 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: know who was where the Jaguars come. 360 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: In pretty high, really high. 361 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: They just weren't two hundred and fifty three third, which 362 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: means that the Jaguars got good pressure in the quarterback. 363 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: Last year they didn't finish, so we're expecting that from 364 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker. We hope we see that this year in 365 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: a varied defense. Josh Allen alluded to that calebon Chay 366 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: Sun's going to have a chance. 367 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: Right. 368 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot from him on the training 369 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: camp field, but your syre of Duel is going to 370 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: have an opportunity in these preseason games to see if 371 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: he can become that third guy. He was a prolific 372 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: pass rusher at Louisville to get twenty two or twenty 373 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: three sacks in two seasons there where he was a starter. 374 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: They need a third pass rusher, a change it up guy. 375 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: And remember he's one of those do a lot of 376 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: things guys on defense because he's not just unique and Gockway. 377 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: For all of his pass rush prowess, say that three 378 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: times fast, no, okay. For all that he could do 379 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: rushing the passer going forward, he was a non factor 380 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: against the run. He was an effort guy, but he 381 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: couldn't hold up against the run. This is a guy 382 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: who can which allows Mike Caldwell to do some different 383 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: things with him. Bob Sutton and Mike to sit up 384 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: late at night on Tuesdays and scheme away to get 385 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: him into the game plan. So I'm watching him really 386 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: closely this week and against Dallas because they really need 387 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: a young guy to come through, whether it's him or. 388 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Caleb On and change is necessary. Josh Allen himself is 389 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: saying they're getting different play calls going in practice and 390 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: what they're doing in training camp. He hopes transitions into 391 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: the games because obviously they struggled with the pass rush 392 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: last year and he's hoping that the changes will stick. 393 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: So just to connect a couple things real quick. Third 394 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 2: most pressures two hundred and fifty three right, Kansas City 395 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: was second to two fifty five twenty five takeaways, fifth 396 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: most in the league. The Jaguars are close, right, I 397 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: mean they're close in Samirius last year. Can they get 398 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: back to this level but top it off and increase 399 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: the sacks? 400 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: And they have to. I will touch on another thing 401 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: with the sr of Duela. He obviously came out there. 402 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's underside this, that and the other. He 403 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: just seems like he gets it. And I say this 404 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: from other people's points of view as well, not just 405 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: my own, but Jeff Logman was talking about it as well. 406 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: He just has the moves, like if something doesn't work, 407 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: he switches so quickly and just comprehends it in a 408 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: way that not everybody does. Other people have the sheer size, 409 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: maybe they look the part, but the asier has been 410 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: so quick on the uptake that he sees him as 411 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: someone that could definitely make an impact. 412 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: John, I don't know if people have had a chance 413 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: to see it, because the pass rush is so far 414 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: away from the stands here and it's generally way over 415 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 2: in a corner where we're not able to access. You 416 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: see fifty six a lot. You see him. Yep, he pops. 417 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's always winning, but you see 418 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: fifty six. 419 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: And if you pop as a rookie just a little bit, 420 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: then you usually come on and you're better as time 421 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: goes on, because you don't know anything right now if 422 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: you're a rookie. So that's always encouraging. Just one final 423 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: point in the defense before we move on. There's sort 424 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: of a perception among Jaguars fans and maybe I fall 425 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: into it too. Oh, the offense is good around here, 426 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: in the defense is bad. Like that's sort of what 427 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: every ozone question is sort of predicated on that they 428 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: were actually tired for fourth in the league in takeaways 429 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: last year and twelfth in points allowed, with a first 430 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 3: year coordinator and every starter. The only guy they lost 431 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: is arden Key, and everybody's sort of gnash teeth about that, 432 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: and they didn't want to lose arden but he's the 433 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: only guy they lost. Well, you can look at that 434 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: two ways, whether he didn't make it improvements or I 435 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: get that. Continuity is not as talked about on offense 436 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: as I mean on defense as it is an offense, 437 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: but it matters, and Josh Allen sure thinks they're going 438 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 3: to be better because of continuity. So I don't think 439 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: this defense is going to be a top three defense 440 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: that you remember as one of the great defenses of 441 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: all time. But if it's healthy, I certainly think that 442 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: it can improve enough to compliment what could be a 443 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: very good offense. 444 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: So I wonder if all the shutdown defense is necessary. 445 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: Well, you like to say fans fan an angst is 446 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: part of being a fan as you look at your team, 447 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: So there's going to be some of that real quick. 448 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: We focus so much on the front right because everyone 449 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: wants the sack, the strip that kind of thing. But 450 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: on the back end last year, Darius Williams was fourth 451 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 2: in the league, tied for fourth with sixteen passes defense. 452 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: By the way, Sauce Gardner led the league at twenty 453 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: so not that far off right, and Tyson Campbell was 454 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: one behind in fifth place for with fifteen and together 455 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: they were the most productive cornerback tandem in terms of 456 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: breaking up passes. And by the way, you can say 457 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: the same for the safeties Rayshawn Jenkins and Andre Cisco, 458 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: who had a combined twenty two and were first and 459 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: third among safeties breaking up passes. So the point being, 460 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: the back end was pretty good last year, late better 461 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: than early. You talk about continuity upfront, they're talking about 462 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: continuity of the secondary. 463 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: They are. 464 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: For my pick for the fifty three, we're gonna switch 465 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: to offense really quick. I just want to touch on 466 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 1: this a little bit because we've been hearing his name 467 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: so often. Kevin Austin junior, Kevin Austin was on the 468 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: practice squad last year. He's someone that's really taking advantage 469 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: of the opportunities he's had in camp. You know, his 470 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: names come up with Trevor, his name's come up with 471 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: Doug and I feel like when you're you know, we 472 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: can make our observations, but when you're hearing it from 473 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, press sailor from Doug and they're noting them 474 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: as a person that they're noticing, that's a good sign 475 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: for you. 476 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder for Kevin, he really has shown up. 477 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: I wonder if he won't have to be a practice 478 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: squad guy one more year, not that he hasn't improved, 479 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: but only because they still like Tim Jones. Yeah, you're 480 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: deep there. You have Parker Washington who's making the team. 481 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 3: So I think it's a good thing. All of a sudden, 482 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: this is a deep team where you're having trouble finding 483 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: a spot for a kid who probably deserves a spot. 484 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: Bro, I'll give you two other guys, Seth Williams from 485 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: Auburn and Jerray Jenkins from LSU. They are a year behind, 486 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: right because Kevin Austin has improved, but they're big, tall 487 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 2: receivers with long arms and great leaping ability. They can 488 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: high point the ball. I think Kevin Austin's a really 489 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: intriguing player because he was coming on in the practice 490 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: field last year. Late in the season. He could push 491 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: Tim Jones. 492 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: I think also, if he doesn't make the rosters you mentioned, 493 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: he might be someone else. Someone else picks up and 494 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: has a spot for Maybe they're not as deep at 495 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: wide receiver as the Jaguars are and they give him 496 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: a chance. 497 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: Wide receivers and linebackers are contributors on special teams. So 498 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: let's see what he does in Dallas on Saturday night 499 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: on spot. That's going to be the differentiating factor for 500 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: the sixth spot. 501 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: We're all wondering what Doug Peterson is going to do 502 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: in terms of starters on Saturday. We will see how 503 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: long they are out there. He's running practice today, he's 504 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: got the visor on, He's ready to go for training camp. 505 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on things. We got a little 506 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: bit more coming up on jags Am after the break. 507 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jags Am. We are presented by Field's 508 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: Auto Group, Jacksonville. Step up to Luxury Fields Auto dot Com. 509 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: We are in the Hyundai studios for you today. Trevor 510 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: getting some work in as we get one of the 511 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: last Well, I guess more than tense practices were earlier 512 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: this week. These are a little more run through ESQ 513 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: before we get to preseason game on Saturday, We're going 514 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: to look around the league. There's some stuff going on. 515 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Justin Houston signing with the Panthers earlier this week, again 516 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: another pass rusher. We talk about it ad nauseum. They 517 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: have not brought in a new big name to try 518 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: to help their own pass rush. Is there anyone left 519 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: out there that you guys would be interested in bringing 520 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: in at this point. 521 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: They're all in their early thirties. I'm melvin Ingram in 522 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: Miami last week year had ten sacks. Right. Robert Quinn 523 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: was a very productive pass rusher for years, but last 524 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: year did nothing in Philly. Both are thirty three. If 525 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: you want one of those guys. 526 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't followed this as much as fans have 527 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: because I just don't have a feeling that they're that 528 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: interested in it. Meaning the Jaguars aren't that interesting. So 529 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: I think they believe that they have young guys who 530 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: as a group can get pressure, and I think overall 531 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: they look at that stat Brian throughout his team got 532 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: pressure on the passer last year. They just can't get sacks, 533 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 3: got great pressure. I have said for months, I don't 534 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: think they see this as the same crisis. 535 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: No, that observers did no, and you don't want to 536 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 2: go throw a lot of money at a thirty three 537 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: year old in wonder you know if Melvin got ten 538 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: sacks in Miami, does he have that? Here's what you 539 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: got going for you this year. I think Roy Robertson Harris. 540 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: At the end of last year, John really came on. 541 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: He was a dominant factor in games in New York 542 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: and against the Chargers. 543 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: Here. 544 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: Devon Hamilton, who didn't start camp on the practice field, 545 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: has been pushing guys around in the middle right. Talk 546 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: about creating sack opportunities. When the quarterback can't stand in 547 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: the pocket. Guys like Josh and tray Von or Kaylevon 548 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 2: or you see her are going to be able to 549 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: hunt on the edges because the quarterback is looking. So 550 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of reasons to believe that they will 551 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: get over the top this year. Of course, people an't 552 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: gonna believe it until they see it. 553 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: Be better against the run, get in better pass rushing 554 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: situations on third down, get leads, and get pass rushing 555 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 3: situations late in the game. It's not just to that's 556 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: usually where good him And why did the Eagles have 557 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 3: seventy sacks because they were ahead all the time, and 558 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: I got sacks late in the game. I'm assume I 559 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: haven't looked at this. That's usually the formula. Teams that 560 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: have leads are often good pass rushing teams, and. 561 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: That's where we want to be at, playing with big 562 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: leads and letting the defense go off and do what they. 563 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: Need to do. 564 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: Another look around the league. We talked a little bit 565 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: about The Quarterback Show on Netflix earlier this week, but 566 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks is back on HBO last night. I don't 567 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: know if you guys got a chance to check it out. 568 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: I stayed up late to check it out. I stayed 569 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: up late because and he gets here so early for 570 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: training camp, so I feel like it's score lot like 571 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: I stay up late to watch it. But Aaron Rodgers 572 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: is just interesting in every facet of the game. Did 573 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: you get a chance to check it out? Brent? 574 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: I saw little bits and pieces of it. I had 575 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: chaos going at my house last night. I saw the 576 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: bit with Sauce Gardner graduating. I really I like him 577 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: a lot. I spent some time with him in Las 578 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: Vegas last year before the draft. Uh So I focused 579 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: on him and not only is a great player, but 580 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: he's a great kid. The Rogers thing, I don't know, 581 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: he's weird to me. The Dark Tree, there was a 582 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: couple of psychedelic toad venom. 583 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: They make him a look a lot more normal, which 584 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: I believe he is on the inside, a little bit 585 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: more normal than he might come across. But there's a 586 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: couple of things where they're at the Hall of Fame 587 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: game and he's talking to Sauce Gardner, and it's just 588 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: like the age difference is so it's it's adorable. It's 589 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: really like them trying to have a conversation, like a 590 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: kid talking to his dad. Sometimes it's just like there's 591 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: something lost in translation there. 592 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 3: I like because I'm always fascinated by how much having 593 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: so much money will allow people to go in terms 594 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: of personality something else. So I've always liked Aaron Rodgers. 595 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 3: I like somebody who kind of says whatever he thinks, 596 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 3: and I love his own thing. I didn't see that 597 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: version of Hard Knocks. I don't know how much I'll 598 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 3: watch it. I'm not a huge Hard Knocks guy, but 599 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: people like it. I'm fine with it. I turned it 600 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: on IM just glad it's not here because you. 601 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: And I talked about watching it so we could talk 602 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: about it on the show. But I just I'm like John, 603 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: I kind of a hard time watching other teams because 604 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: we live it every day. 605 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: This is true, although it's a good thing that they 606 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: we don't qualify for Hard Knocks as of right now 607 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: because the team is good. You know, if you have 608 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: a winning record, you don't have to be on the show. 609 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: They made the Jets be on the the NFL made 610 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: the Jets be on the show. So it's a good 611 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: thing for us that we're trending upwards. 612 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: There's probably well someone watching this who remembers Jaguar Summer 613 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: that was non HBO. It was NFL Network in two 614 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: thousand and four. They embedded their cameras with us and 615 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: spent the entire summer here and did Jaguar Summer, which 616 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: was Hard Knocks in a year that they didn't have 617 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: Hard Knocks on HBO. 618 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I'll have to go look for the throwback. That 619 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: sounds interesting. 620 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 2: I think the most interesting part was Chris Fuamatu Mafala. 621 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 2: There's another one to say three times, uh, the the 622 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: Samoan running back from Utah who did a flaming torch 623 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: dance at a club barbecue out at Hannah Park one night. 624 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: It was exhilarating to watch. 625 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: All right, we go. There's a reason to look at 626 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: that up. 627 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: If you guys like reality, behind the behind the scenes 628 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: sort of things, definitely want to check that out. We 629 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: have a little sneak peak of something coming up for 630 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: you after the break as well that if you like 631 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: to see all of the stuff that's going on here 632 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: at Jags camp in the building in the nec you're 633 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna get a peek at it. We got a bunch 634 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: of fans out there today, stay with us. I'll give 635 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: you that teas ahead coming up after the break. Jags fans, 636 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: if you want customized Jaguars furnished for your homie, can 637 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: check out zipchair dot com to browse all customizable options. 638 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: Zip Chair Furniture for fans are right here. 639 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: So what is this for? 640 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 5: Again? The hut Y series. 641 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: So we don't have quarterbacks on Netflix with Trevor Lawrence, 642 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: but you are going to get the hunt for the 643 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: entire twenty twenty three football season. Fans asked for it, 644 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: we are delivering you get the behind the scenes all 645 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: the action for you. Hear that we put together on 646 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: The Hunt. The latest episode is coming out on Thursday night, 647 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: so look forward to that. 648 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: I do watch that and I live that. They do 649 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: an excellent job with us. Yeah, that's that's our hard knots. 650 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: I'll give us a pat on the back. We all 651 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: do a good job with that and your presence. It's 652 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: just it brings us all together. 653 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it about your job. 654 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: It's our vibe. We love a vibe, all right. The 655 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: Hunt is back. Training camp is here, preceeds around the corner. 656 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: Will be back with you on Thursday morning for jagsam 657 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: as we preview a little bit of that matchup with Dallas. 658 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Training camp is underway. Thank you for joining us. We 659 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: will see you again tomorrow morning.