WEBVTT - Succession S4 Ep 4 + Yellowjackets S2 Ep 4 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.400 Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for season four episode four 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:08.000 of Succession on HBO aka Max plus, season two episode 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:27.760 four of Yellow Jackets on the beleaguered Showtime Network. Hello, 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.120 my name is Jason Concepcio and on Rosay Night, and 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.199 welcome to x Ray Vision of the Crooked Media podcast 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.720 where we dive deep. It's your favorite shows, movies, comics, 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:37.519 and pop culture. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.040 In this episode, Market Moves Baby, and the Market's moving 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.839 Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding sells Elsell, Bye Bye Bye, Kendall. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.120 The killer is back. It's all going down. Succession, season four, 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.440 episode four. In the Airlock, stepping into that icy wilderness 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.880 for Yellow Jackets season two, episode four, shocking things are occurring, 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.880 as always add in nerd out a Yellowjacket's theory from 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.160 listener Cornelius. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:04.560 Oh, you love to hear it up. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:17.000 Next, Market Moves, and so we've come to the end 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:18.720 of the load. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:26.880 Cannot can't read your note? Is Ken's name crossed out? 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:33.679 Is it underlined? This is Market Moves. That's right, it's 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:38.480 Market Moves, your number one source for economic success and 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:44.440 coverage of Succession season four episode four, titled Honeymoon States, 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.400 directed by Loreen Scafaria, director of Hustlers and written by 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.560 Jesse Armstrong, creator of the show, and Lucy Prebble. We 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.360 open Rosie on the day after Logan's death due to 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.400 pulmonary embolism suffered whilst fishing his iPhone out of an 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.960 air plane toilet, which means it is now classy. What 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:08.080 a classic way to go for a classic, which means 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.920 it's now time to scrabble over the skeletal remains of 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.399 his empire and sow up his outstanding affairs. The kids 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.600 are dealing with this loss in different ways. Roman is fine, 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:26.560 just brush his teeth. Ken is quietly shattered. Shiv, we learn, 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:32.760 is pregnant and which is unrelated okay to what is 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.920 going on in this in the current plot, but that's 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.360 obviously still a lot to deal with on top of 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.280 everything else. Prop Number one, first of all, shouts to 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.360 our good friend h Over, a co host of Dune Pod. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:51.440 His partner basically called that Shiv was pregnant, so a 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:56.040 big we were right to h and H's partner. First 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:01.160 prompt it's a two parter prompt a by herself a 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:07.480 father of Shiv's child. Is it Tom, her current husband 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.800 soon to be ex husband. We think is it Nate, 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.760 her ex she had an ongoing affair with while she 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.720 was married to Tom. Is it the random guy she 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:23.600 met at the bar after Willa's disastrous Broadway play debut, 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.040 or literally anybody else could be anybody else? Remember she 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.720 pitched Tom on an open marriage on the night of 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:34.040 their wedding, Rosie, I ask you who is the fother? 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:40.560 Okay? I think is fifty to fifty Tom? That makes 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.400 the most sense to me, especially because there might be 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.920 some kind of IVF situation first and embryos they've had 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:52.520 that conversation or fifty percent that it's like a Dona 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.920 that Shiv chose because she wants to have a baby 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.720 for succession reasons and doesn't want Tom involved. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:58.320 Let's be real. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.520 Tom has been trying to climb the ladder of the 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.120 roy family. He would absolutely, He's still trying very desperately. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.920 He would love to have a roy Air. So I 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.360 don't know if Shiv would want to make that choice. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.600 But like you said, this is a lot to deal 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.840 with and this I think this adds an interesting twist 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.719 to the argument of succession because Kendall always seemed like 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.000 a good get simply because he had kids, so that 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.839 continues the line. But Shiv now is pregnant, so that 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.039 adds a little bit of competition there for the ongoing 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:36.000 Roy line. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:37.520 Very interesting stuff. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.040 I did not see this one coming, but as you said, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:41.720 H and his partner absolutely did. 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.479 Roy of the blood is stirring in the womb of 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.800 Chevron Roy. I will say, I'm going to buy Tom 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.359 as the father. I think it is the father. I 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.040 think it's a little too late to introduce some rando, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.760 although you know, I did enjoy Nate's slimy offerings to 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:04.520 the delig And here is part B of the prompt. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.200 So Siv is on the phone. Is Shiv sick? That's 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.640 the prompt, and here is the evidence to lay out 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.080 for is Shiv unwell? She's on that call, and on 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:18.120 that call to open the episode, she's not finding out 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.279 she was pregnant. On this episode, she appears to be 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:26.600 finding out that something did not affect her current pregnancy. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:32.719 She's still carrying the baby and therefore whatever the call 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.960 is about did not adversely affect her her pregnancy. And 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.680 then later in the episode we see her trip and 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:47.200 fall in a way that feels not just an opportunity 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.440 to kind of add to her humiliation of being cut 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.480 out of co CEO. So I ask you, now, is 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.039 Shiv well? Do we think Shiv is well? I think 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.080 Shiv is sick. I think you'll read on this is right. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.880 I couldn't tell if the call she was getting was 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.240 about them testing to see if the IVF or the 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:14.040 embryos had worked, but on second watch, it definitely seems 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.159 more like something didn't negatively affect the baby, and she said, 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.080 you know, it's positive. The baby seems okay. I'm very 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.880 interested to know is Shift sick? Is it something that 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:30.039 is an ongoing illness like an MS or something like that, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:31.080 or is it cancer? 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.039 Shift definitely. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.320 There's a lot of things she does during this episode 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.279 that I think hint that she is sick and she's 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.240 trying to get what she can even in a really 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.960 shit situation. So I'm very interested to see where this goes, 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.520 especially as I think it was. Super producer Chris was 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.159 talking about how Brian Cox did an interview where he 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.480 said every episode of the rest of the season is 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.360 just a day, So how much are we gonna find out? 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.000 And that makes sense after we watched this yesterday, you know, 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.200 one day later, So with you know, six episodes left, 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.560 so essentially a week. What can we find out? But yeah, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:12.240 ship falling over. They were definitely playing into the men 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.240 in those spaces are going to think she's frail, but 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.120 we know that's absolutely not Shiv's mo o. So that 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:24.120 happening is very much goes against the shell and the 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.920 armor that she usually puts up in those spaces. So yeah, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.080 I think ships six. Sadly I do not believe she 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:30.600 as well. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:37.080 Everyone gathers at Logan's former Manhattan Plazzo for the settling 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.720 of the affairs plus the board vote for interim CEO. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:49.640 The attendees include various Conservative luminaries, Colin Logan's body man 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.280 in jeans, much to the shock of the children, a 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.920 man who certainly looks a lot like former National Security 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:02.520 advisor under Donald Trump, John Bolton, he of the let's 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:09.520 just bomb Iran right now statements. GOP presidential candidate Menken, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.920 who is a Nazi but we don't actually see him, 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.280 but certainly it's a secret. Security shows up, Sandy Elder, 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.240 Sandy the Elder, Sandy the Younger, and Stewie, and of 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.320 course Sandy the Elder, who we have not seen since 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.320 he suffered a stroke. I believe it was a health 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.800 setback that has left him. That has either left him 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.200 with a smile on his face or he is just 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.400 so happy to be here at Logan's wake sort of. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.800 He can't believe he outlived him. He cannot believe it. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:43.640 Also there Marcia, Logan's well last official partner. That's the 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.720 big surprise, huge surprise. She is there. Of course she 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:51.080 would not miss this event. She casually drops that her 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.400 and Logan have been phone sexing every evening. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.400 And talking every morning. He checks every plan over. This 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.320 is such a shocking power play. It makes a lot 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.400 of sense because why wouldn't she turn up? 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:05.600 But she turns up. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:10.840 She very you know, conveniently reveals this secret that only 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.120 she and Logan would know. And now Logan is dead. 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.840 She's in a house that she owns now that Logan 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:21.480 is dead, and she is just stone fucking called. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.040 She is a cold killer. She shouts to Willa for 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.240 standing up for herself. So Marcia makes this very pointed like, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:33.160 look at how high you've look, at how far you've come, really, 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:37.160 you know, referencing her marriage to to Connor. And of 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:41.719 course she is a former escort and Willa defends herselves, like, 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.520 look at look at both of us, look at how 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.760 how far both of us have come good for you, Willa. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:52.360 In the meantime, Marcia manages to run carry over with 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.400 a fucking pool build or just drops her in a 0:09:55.480 --> 0:10:00.120 grave nearby Logan, certainly not close enough that she could 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.760 say that she was buried with him, but like in 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:07.720 the area, and then also manages, with incredible haste to 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:13.920 sell the palazzo to Connor for some sixty three million dollars. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.320 Over the course of this day, two power centers emerged. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.320 There are the old folks, Carl, Frank and Jerry and 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.040 the kids. The music has essentially stopped on this game 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.560 of musical chairs, and everyone without a seat is various 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.760 levels of fucked. That includes Tom, that includes Greg, That 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.000 certainly includes Carrie, who is chased out of the building 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.480 through the back door, like weeping with stuff falling out 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.400 of her bag and saying Logan was gonna make arrangements 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.199 for me, will somebody please check on it? 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:46.160 And she's just fucked, also basically telling Roman like we 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.079 were gonna get married, Yeah, like this was gonna happen. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.280 I need to find the proof. I need you Roman, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:57.559 you know, such a complex character, but in that scene 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.840 has so much haw and FIFA carry. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.200 He's the one who who doesn't lie. He really is. 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.720 He's a terrible human being as they all are, but 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.520 he is the one who he can't when he sees 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.720 someone like in genuine distress, it affects him. He doesn't 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.840 like confrontation or conflict in it, and it really bothers him. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.320 He wants to see that everyone's kind of like okay, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.760 uh and it's a really interesting uh side to uh 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:27.960 to Roman. So Tom then pitches. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:33.840 Person trying to sell himself. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.959 He needs, he needs, he needs a safe space, and 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.599 so he pitches the old folks on himself as in 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.960 terms CEO he uh. It doesn't go that well. Greg 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.800 is out there kissing every but cheek possible in order 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.080 to find a safe place for him to be. And 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.920 then meanwhile, of course the Gojo deal is hanging over everything, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.960 and Luke Maxon appears to be kind of steamed at 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.520 the kids after they left him on dial basically while 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.480 they kind of figured out it was a power move, 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.080 but then they went on to say, oh, wasn't a 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:07.600 power move. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.360 That was the stupidest and probably most impactful decision this 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.960 episode of many stupid and impactful decisions, instead of just 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.920 letting Roman pick up the phone, Yeah, Connor el Kendall, No, no, no, 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.760 we don't need to just just let it ring out. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.760 And then they're in this kind of hilarious farce now 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.440 where they're going to have to prove to Matson that 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.520 they need to and you know they're talking about they've 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.160 got to be there in twenty four hours for the retreat. 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.280 So I'm assuming we're going to get see that next episode, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:42.559 which I would absolutely love because Matson is high he Oh, 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:44.360 it was just wild. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.240 Prop Number two real recognize real estate. How much of 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:53.319 Connor's wealth is left after buying this house? Will It 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.160 seemed a little concerned at the price tag, And recall 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:03.240 we have seen Connor previously the child of Logan's first wife, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.520 not his more beloved second wife, where you know shiv 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.840 Can and Roman come from, and it has been intimated 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.760 before that he doesn't have as much of a steak 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.560 in the family business, or if maybe any steak in 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.520 the family business like the other kids. And also we've 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.800 seen him in the past, most notably during Willa's Broadway 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:29.520 play Begging for money from Logan. How much money does 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.880 Conder have left after spending sixty three million dollars on 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.160 the plotz. He was also very worried about the taxes, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:36.880 which I get, I guess I get. 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.240 I don't think he has enough money to buy the. 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:41.439 House at all. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:48.680 He needs the Gojo deal. Do you remember karaoke? How 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.480 fucking scared he was that the deal wasn't going to 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.440 go through and then he called Logan and he snitched 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:54.880 on them. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.040 That's what I want. Nobody needs sixty three million for 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:58.640 house too. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.000 The house is ugly as fought. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.679 It is a three. I understand why Connor. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.560 Wants it, because it's an ultimate fuck you to Logan. 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:09.120 Yes four, Marsha is a true g because she did 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.040 not she was not gonna get that money from anywhere 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:12.319 else right now in the housing. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.200 Waste from zero time. She's like, he's gonna be looking 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.160 for sixty to seventy million for it, and he's like 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.440 sixty three and she's like, good done, spits on her head. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.680 So I think this would either wipe Connor out or 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.760 he actually might not have the liquidity to do it, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.560 and he's gonna be become very interested in. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.800 The's got it. He's gotta sell stuff. So he's got 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.800 to sell the cars. He's gotta sell the hyper decanting machine. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:44.120 He's got to sell Napoleon's dick. He's gotta sell like 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:45.520 the Joseph letter. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.840 It's a corner yard sale is gonna be happening outside 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.240 the palaza. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.200 I absolutely agree. I think Connor. I'm gonna say that 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.960 Connor is worth fifty million, and that he needs and 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.840 then illiquid fifty million, and that he's gotta move stuff around, 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.960 plus get that Gojo money to go through in order 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:16.040 for him to truly and finally and irrevocably purchase this palazzo, Manhattan, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.640 palazzo that Willa is gonna tear up the second they 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:24.560 get into it. Whatever the game plan is here on 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.000 this day is swiftly thrown into chaos when Frank, the 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.640 executor of Logan's estate, discovers an undated piece of paper 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:37.280 at Logan's private safe, indicating that at one time Logan 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:42.520 wanted Ken to be CEO, and then at some other 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:48.320 time he either underlined Ken or across his name out 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.760 What do we do here, folks? The old folks. Carl 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:56.480 and Frank briefly discuss Hey we could just, you know, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.520 something could just happen to it, this piece of paper. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:03.040 What if it got lost. I'm to say, I think 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:04.760 it would be terrible if it was lost, But what 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.080 if it was all of a sudden Johan just slipped. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.040 What if it shook and then Gustav Wynn took it 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.320 and it flew away? And that Jerry comes in as like, 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.240 what are you guys up to? And they're like, uh, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.600 we were just kind of like happily discussing this piece 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.720 of paper that here says that Ken either is or 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:28.440 isn't Logan's final wish as CEO, and we were wondering, like, gosh, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.600 what if this paper just fell into toilet? And then 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.360 she says, oh, that's very funny. PS. I'm general counsel, 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.680 so I can't play games like this. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:37.720 Three. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.760 How would you, Rosie Knight, speculating in a comic mode, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:52.360 a humor is vain, suggest getting rid of important legal documents? 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.360 How would you do it in a in a funny way. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.920 Pitch me on, Let's get rid of these papers that 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.240 are very very Importan and Germaine to the conversation that 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:08.960 are ongoing and relate to very very strongly relate to 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.720 Ken's interest in something, And how do we get rid 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.320 of these papers? You pitch me on it. We got 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:15.000 to get rid of him. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.280 Okay, I would love to have seen I'm with Cal 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:19.879 on this one. I have to say, this is just 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:20.600 a hat mess. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:21.760 I think you just clean again. 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.719 I would have loved Carl has already He's flipped over it, Tom. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.880 He's at the end of his tether. His chill nature 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.080 is leaving. He's always had a good cool front, but 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.640 it's it's going. He wants his fucking golden parachute. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.679 He needs his money because he's buying a Greek island 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:40.960 with his brother in law. 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.600 And this is reliable troubles. So what I would have 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.160 loved to see. I would have loved to see him 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.040 just rip it him off and just start eating it. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:50.920 Him and Frank just eat it. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:52.240 So funny would that have been? 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:53.119 How good? 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.960 So Rosie, it's you and me and we're standing there 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.240 and we've got the paper. What would you say to me? 0:17:58.520 --> 0:17:59.920 You want me to get rid of the paper. You 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.359 certainly don't want to do it yourself. You want me 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.560 to make the decision to eat the paper. How would 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:09.000 you tell me to do it? I think I would. 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.439 I would actually just I'd take a little bit of 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.520 a corner to see if you're feeling like it. I 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.440 tear a little bit off of meat and like give 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.520 you the eyebrows, like the wiggle eyebrows, like. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:18.000 What about this? 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.880 And uh, and then you know it's all about the money. Yeah, 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.840 I just say, look, if these don't if this paper 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.560 doesn't exist, we're in a much better state. And i'd also, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.399 I mean, I think this is the biggest argument that 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.119 they failed on here. He's like, these kids are fucking idiots, 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:33.880 Like Tom says it. Tom is the. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:34.600 Only one who's real. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.480 You don't want them involved. Yeah, the paper is gone. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.960 In my opinion, I'm on Car's side. I'm all for 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.960 getting rid of the paper. It's time. The kid's idiots. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:43.520 What would you do? 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:49.000 Here's me pitch it. I would also, I mean, the 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.640 thing is, if you get rid of it, you can 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.600 never speak of it again, and it has to be gone, 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:59.040 forever gone. And it's a risk, of course, it's a risk. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.399 Legally you'd be exposed, like the lawsuits stemming from this 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.639 would be just it would cripple you. I don't care 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.120 how rich you are, and certainly Frank and Carl are 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.119 not cut from the same cloth. Despite the fact that 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.639 Carl is buying an island, he's co buying an island. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.560 It cuts from the name. Yeah, cut from the same 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.560 wealth cloth as the kids. So I would heavily lean 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.320 towards getting rid of it, but I wouldn't want to 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.119 get rid of it myself. And if you were holding 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.879 the paper as the executor of Logan's, well, here is 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.600 how I would I would picture. I'd say, Rosie, it's 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.639 a very interesting piece of paper. Let's look at it 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.600 over here by the window in the light. Oh gosh, 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.320 it's a windy day. What if you what if you 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.000 what if you just what if your hands just suddenly 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:46.119 not weak? You know, the wood is blowing so strongly 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.879 up here on the seventh or eighth or tenth or 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.679 whatever floor of this gigantic mansion on the upper east side. 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.960 We all know how the canyons of New York create 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.040 these wind tunnels. What if you just let go of it? Now, 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:00.800 what if you just let all of that paper and 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.760 it just flew away? It would be it would be, obviously, 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.320 I think, a tragedy, and it would and it would 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.359 rob the roy siblings of some of the context of 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:16.080 their father's wishes in his final weeks months date, it's undated. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.560 Once again, we have to say that it's undated. But 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.760 but yeah, but and that would be a tragedy. But 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.960 to be what if it happened, it could happen. Yeah, 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:24.920 that's how I would do it. 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.600 I think you're on the right track, because once it 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:33.520 leaves that room, like if somebody did find it, it's nothing. Oh, 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:37.000 somebody just made that the internet cafe. No one's gonna care. 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:38.119 I like that. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.480 I also think, you know the Oh no, I put 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.639 it here next to my ashtray with my cigar. 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.160 In it, you know, burn that shit. 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.480 Oh no, It's gone basically many inventive ways. And I 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.600 think they went about this the worst possible way, but 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:55.280 the best possible way for unnecessary chaotic drama, which is 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:56.960 what it absolutely instills. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:01.159 Well, the paper is then revealed and us immediately and suits. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.879 First of all, Ken, the kids are like, well, I 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.320 wonder if this changes anything, and certainly Ken says, well, 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.879 I think it does because my name is on the paper, 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.840 and she was like, yeah, but is it crossed out 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.720 or is what is this crossing it out? Is the underlining. 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.560 Like I'm not saying it to be a jerk, but 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.120 like legitimately the line goes through your name kind of 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.359 for at least forty percent of your name, you know, 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:29.560 space wise. Ken and Roman eventually coalesce around a structure 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.520 that they think makes sense. Now they were both COO 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.960 at one time, and that is kind of like the 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:42.119 necessary according to the bylaws the next person up for 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.480 interim CEO in the event that something happens to the CEO, 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.159 So it'd be weird. They both say, if if we 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:53.199 didn't both step up as co ce interim CEO, and 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.160 you know, with this paper in hand, certainly it seems 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.200 like we have our father is okay to go ahead 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.679 and do that? Now, Shiv is like, well, what about me? 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:05.919 What if we do a triarchy? We do three of us? 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.000 And they're like, that feels kind of weird, doesn't it 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.200 Like three people feel a little too much? But I'll 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.760 say it, but what And honestly, I do think they 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:17.280 have a point in that Shiv has never worked there. Now, 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.080 she states, now, I did do such and such project 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.320 for Dad when I came in briefly, and blah blah blah, 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.600 But that as Ken notes pointedly, but I think fairly 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.440 was make daddy would like, make busy work for dad. 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.560 It wasn't really working there, as Ken and Rowan both had, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:37.280 and so they both decide that Shiv's officially out but 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:42.840 will be unofficially in, as in everything that they decide 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:47.200 she will be involved in. This, of course, is absolute bullshit, 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:51.119 and they're going to cut her out at the earliest 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.120 possible convenience. She will be shoved overboard her and her 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.880 unborn child when we walk down the gang like, and 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.720 she will go into the waters and seek below the 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.000 waters and never be seen again. The board then votes, 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:06.560 and guess what. Ken and Roman ascend the mountaintop for 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:11.119 the interim as co Ceo, Hugo and Carolina then raised 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.000 the issue. Now that the two boys are in the 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:17.080