WEBVTT - Horizon - Talina Zar E8 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:05.320 Heads up to listeners. This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence. 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:10.240 Please take care while listening. In the summer of twenty twenty, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.760 that first COVID summer, a few months after Teleina went missing, 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.680 before anyone had been arrested, a licensed realtor in Mina, 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.919 Arkansas gets a phone call. The person on the other 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.279 end of the line is a woman eager to buy 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.800 some land in the area, but not just any land, 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.640 a specific parcel. Here's how she later described that call, 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:36.640 as read by a voice actor. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.400 When I answered the phone, she said there was a 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:41.280 piece of property she wanted to buy. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.400 The realtor looks up the property on her computer. It's 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.440 a four acre plot of undeveloped forest in Arkansas. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:50.519 She asks the. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.159 Woman if she wanted to be shown the property, they 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:54.160 could do a tour. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.120 And she said no, she had already looked at it, 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.080 she'd walked every step of it, and she just loved it. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.680 Weird but okay. Then the woman says she's planning to 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.320 live there, but the realtor can see from the plot's 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.960 description that that might be difficult. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.120 And I said, you do understand. There's no utilities, there's 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.600 no water, no electric nothing there. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.280 The woman is undeterred, and she said. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.280 Well, I'm going to live there and I'm going to 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.720 buy this piece of property, and I want to buy 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:26.520 it today. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.240 A sale is a sale. So the realtor pulls up 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.000 some forms and asks for the woman's information. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.600 She said her name was Deb Bomily or something like that. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.000 Her first name was Corey, but she said she didn't 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.160 use that name. She used the name of Deb. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.520 Even though it's getting late in the day. The realtor 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.840 prepares a contract for the sale of the property and 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.880 Corey signs it just after midnight, but the contract is 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:57.320 rejected by the seller because of financing issues. The realtor 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.320 updates Corey. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.360 I talked to her several times and we text back 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.520 and forth because it was rejected, and she said she 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.520 still wanted to buy it, and I asked her how 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.800 she wanted to do that, and she said she was 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.440 going to sell some stuff and just come pay cash 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:12.800 for it. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.240 The realtor follows up to check on the progress of 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:17.320 Corey's cash flow. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.520 I called her and I never got a reply, so 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.080 that was the end. I just filed everything away. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:29.400 The property remains unsold. Seven months later, police will descend 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.680 on this unassuming plot of land off a dead end 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:59.960 logging road called Woody Lane from iHeart Podcasts. I'm Melissa Jell. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.799 This is what happened to Telena's our. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.600 We could solve what happened, We could fix it. Maybe 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.959 the first thing that happened, she gets bad migraines. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.520 By then, we all had a suspicion that something bad 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:16.240 had happened. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.600 We're armchair investigators over here, so we just didn't know 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.639 something like that could have happened to Tolena. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.120 He was like, I've been talking to Corey trying to 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.040 get her to tell me what happened. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:30.200 So what happened? 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.880 In a nutshell? And then Sherry told me the exact 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:34.440 story of what had happened. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.520 If you suspected something like that happened, who would be 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.160 the people you would suspect the most. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.040 All of a sudden move, already thought, no explanation, No, 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:45.360 this is what happened. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.240 I don't know she was willing to forgive him for 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.360 whatever it happened, or maybe he had paid her back. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:55.480 Oh my god, this just certainly can't possibly be what happened. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.760 And I come back and crying. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:08.760 And everysing what happened, Episode eight Horizon. I want to 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.120 take you back to this moment when Telena's body is found. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.120 It's the dead of winter in a forest in Arkansas, 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.800 and a deputy is standing over a white box freezer. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:25.279 He opens the lid to find visible human remains, but 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.760 standing just a few paces behind him is a woman 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.760 watching all this unfold. She's the woman who found the 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.640 freezer and called the police. She's also the woman who 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:41.239 seven months earlier, saw a suspicious truck and trailer drive 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.839 down Woody Lane and Park. At that time, she wrote 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.159 down the license plate number of the truck on a 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:51.000 small piece of paper. Even though it's been seven months, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.400 she still has it. The woman hands over the paper 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:02.040 to investigators. Police run the plates and they matched Tolena's truck, 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.760 the two thousand and seven Dodge Ram that Corey later 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:10.120 sold for scrap metal. This small piece of paper is 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.479 the evidence the detective Joel Weber has been waiting for. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.640 With this new information, investigators began looking again at the 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.960 data retreat from Corey Bamiley's cellular phones on previous search warrants. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.120 They discover evidence from Corey's phone that she had been 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.600 in the area of Arkansas, where Teleina's body was found 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.520 multiple times in June and July. And they also find 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.760 out that the very day that Teleina's truck was spotted 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:41.200 parked on Woody Lane, Corey tried to buy that exact property. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.320 Investigators found that corey bamily had been attempting to purchase 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.760 the very plot of land where the body was found 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.320 from a realtor in Mina, just hours after she was 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.960 seen there. The realtor advised Corey was adamant about purchasing 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.320 the land. Corey refused to meet the realtor to tour 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.760 the land, but stated she had already walked on every 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.080 foot of the property and demanded that she be able 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:06.960 to purchase it. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:11.960 Now able to connect Corey directly to Tellina's body, Wagner 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:16.120 detectives jump into action. They apply for an arrest warrant 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:21.600 for murder. Corey is currently living in Wisconsin with her mom, Janet, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.680 so the Wagner cops coordinate with the Dane County Sheriff's 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:30.520 office in Wisconsin to track her down. On January twenty first, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.520 twenty twenty one, a week after Tellina's body is discovered, 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:39.000 a few squad cars are dispatched to Janet's home with 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.760 no immediate sign of Corey. Police follow her mom as 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:46.719 she goes about her day. We've recreated what happened based 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.239 on police reports. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:53.520 Subjects seen departing the Meadow Road address on two separate occasions. 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.799 Sometime in the afternoon, Corey's mom leaves her house once 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.880 more and drives her Chevy Equinox to a mechanic. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.360 Subject parked in the parking lot for a number of 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.359 minutes before a second subject was observed walking towards the 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.400 Equinox and getting into the front passenger side seat. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.040 Corey gets in the car with her mom behind the wheel. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.960 The decision was made to attempt a traffic stop in 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.720 the appropriate location and take Bamilei into custody on the 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.880 afforementioned warrant. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.400 But arresting Corey isn't going to be so easy. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.880 At approximately two forty two PM, I pulled behind the 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.320 vehicle and activated my squad's emergency red and blue lights 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.760 in an attempt to stop the vehicle. However, it did 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:37.400 not stop. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.200 I don't know what the conversation was in the car 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.240 between Corey and her mom, if she explained what was 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:47.280 happening or pretended to be clueless or if they honestly 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.160 didn't see the police car behind them, But they don't 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:54.720 pull over. Corey's mom keeps driving, so a deputy puts 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:55.840 on his siren. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.440 And again the vehicle did not pull over. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.360 One of the detectives in another squad car speeds up 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:03.520 and cuts in front of them. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.320 He did begin to break slightly, and it appeared as 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.600 though the operator then saw my squad behind her, and 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.160 she immediately pulled to the right shoulder of the road 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:12.880 and stopped. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.880 Gun drawn, the deputy approaches Corey's side of the car 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.080 and tells her to step out of the vehicle. 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.480 Bombily asked what am I under arrest for? And my 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.640 response was murder charges out of Oklahoma. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:31.400 Corey also wants to know had they found her missing 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:39.559 roommate's body. The next day, Wagner County District Attorney Jack 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.440 Thorpe updates the public on Corey's arrest. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:44.600 I charged her. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.960 With first degree murder of Tolina Galloway, and we allege 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.840 that those crimes did occur here in Wagner County, Oklahoma. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.760 Corey Bomily is also charged with desecration of a corpse. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:57.880 She is presumed innocent. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.040 Of both of those charges, and that presumption will remain 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:06.080 throughout the duration of this investigation and prosecution up to 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.680 and if she is proven guilty by proof beyond a 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:10.480 reasonable doubt. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.160 It is very important for me to note to you 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:19.600 this that this is still a very active investigation and 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.760 it will remain so for some time after today. If 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.720 you do have any information, or you may know of 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:31.680 someone that has some relation or knows something about this case, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:36.280 please have that person contact the Wagner County Sheriff's Office. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.440 I would agree that I have never had a case 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.000 involving these kinds of details. 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:46.400 After her arrest for murder, Corey retains a lawyer, Janet Hudson, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:51.000 who defends her client in an interview with KATUL, a 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.079 television station out of Tulsa, Oklahoma. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.480 I think she's shocked. I think she's concerned. Anybody who's 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.240 been charged with such a serious assas should be shocked 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:03.319 and should be concerned. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.000 Corey's lawyer adds that she's worried about her client getting 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:08.920 a fair trial. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.720 I realize there are going to be those that see 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:18.480 this as sensational and frightening and have opinions, and I 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:19.520 have to fight against that. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:25.160 Soon afterwards, Corey is extradited from Wisconsin to Wagner. A 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.320 short video taken by a local reporter shows her in 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:33.120 handcuffs being escorted by police into the station. She's walking 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:37.840 with her head down, wearing jeans and a flannel shirt. Corey, 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:43.559 what do you have to say about Telena's family, Corey says, nothing. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.800 Doesn't even look back. More than four years later, as 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.480 I write this episode in June twenty twenty five, Corey 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.080 is still awaiting trial on these charges. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.439 One day, I was driving on the freeway, riding in 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.559 the freeway with my husband, and we passed a trailer 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.800 that had a freezer on it. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:13.199 The details of Teleina's death, they'd be difficult for anyone 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:18.720 to stomach. Here's Nicole, Talina's friend in Tennessee, who still 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.840 fills the trauma long after receiving the news. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.559 And again, I just had a complete meltdown. I had 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.520 to get him to pull over because I couldn't be 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.319 next to that freezer on that trainer. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.920 Talina's friends have had a lot of time to ruminate 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.800 on the events that occurred in the beginning of the pandemic. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:44.160 Here's Greg to you know, basically, murdered her and chop 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.880 her up and put her somewhere where nobody would ever 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.440 find or it just I Caro, in the world can 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:59.160 somebody even contemplate doing so? How evil can one person 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.560 really be? Tolena was a good lady and did not 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.200 deserve what happened to her. For me to be involved 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.680 in this whole situation just blows my mind. And like 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.679 I said, I live a really boring life here in Oklahoma, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.880 and me and my wife we watch tram stories, but 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.360 for us to live you know, living Wood, it's totally different, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.640 and it makes us not want to trust anybody. It 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.720 makes us look at people a little bit differently now 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.640 and be a little bit more untrusting about what they're 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.439 saying or what they're telling us. And I don't want 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.360 to be that type of person because I feel like 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.400 I'm a person of faith and I feel like I 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.840 want to get everybody the opportunity to prove me wrong, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.920 you know, show me that they're bad. But you know, 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:54.480 through this Coury situation, I I look at people a 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:55.520 lot differently now. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.600 For Tolena's Oklahoma friends in particular, it's hard to wrap 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.560 their heads around what Corey's been accused of Within months 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.520 of Corey settling into Wagner, she had woven herself into 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.600 their worlds, eating dinner in their homes and sharing beers 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:17.640 around backyard fires. Was she manipulating them the whole time? 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.400 Was she waiting for just the right opportunity to enrich 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:26.920 herself or to pull off some long held devious fantasy. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.320 Neighbors are left re examining every moment with her, wondering 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:37.600 if she exploited their goodwill. For Greg, it's the mattress 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:41.199 frame he discarded for Corey that bothers him the most. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.320 Did his actions help Corey get away with murder for 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.360 a while? At least? 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.280 I look back on that and I'm like, oh, I 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.600 just still at that point didn't even have a clue 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.920 of what was transpiring, what had happened, And she was 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:02.160 that comfortable around us and doing the things that she 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:07.040 was doing under our noses. You know what, what else 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.520 is she capable of? Or what has she done in 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:11.600 the past. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.520 No one ever really prepares you for her, small men. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.440 There's no amounts of training that can't prepare you for 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.880 how to feel or what to. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:24.720 Expect for Aris. She can't stop thinking about this moment 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.640 a week after Telena went missing, when she brought over 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.880 sausage that Telena had paid for, but Corey wouldn't take it. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.600 She wasn't me and said, you guys should go ahead 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.800 and take it. Our creator is stuffed full of meat. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.480 I didn't find out about how she was found until obviously. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.440 Months months, months, months after that interaction. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.320 But what I read the details is how her remains 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:52.960 were found. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:55.240 I collapsed. 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.120 Well, I connected those who coming back conversation that information together. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:00.720 How would you say that? 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.640 Certain stories from Corey's past also take on new meaning, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.400 like the rumor she once worked at a coroner's office, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.480 or how she told people she cut up her horse. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.800 Here's Rachel, Telena's friend and fellow animal lover. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:21.000 She had this. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:25.080 Horse dye and apparently it had this horse for yours. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.840 Instead of calling somebody to come pick this animal up 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.640 and or even finding somebody with a back hoe that 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.800 could help her bury it, she cut it up like 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.920 it was literally just a piece of meat. 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.880 What who even knows how to do some work like that? 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:49.000 Whoever did cut up Telena's body appeared to have had practice. 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:53.960 The Arkansas Medical Examiner who performed Telena's autopsy, setting court 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:58.560 documents that the dismemberment appeared to be almost expertly done. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.240 The incision point points were so clean, so precise, that 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.520 there was only one cut mark on a bone, no 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:11.520 saw or chop marks at all. The medical examiner added 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.880 that the way it was done required some knowledge of 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.160 how joints are structured so that they could be cut 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:22.760 around and the limbs removed. As far as the cause 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.400 of Telena's death, the medical examiner found that she died 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.080 from blunt force trauma to the skull. Because of the 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.160 lack of injuries on the rest of her body, he 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.000 believed she was killed before she had a chance to 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:36.920 defend herself. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.000 What do I think happened? Like my theory. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.800 In the years since Corey's arrest, Jess our internet sleuth 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.400 in Minnesota, has had plenty of time to refine her 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:55.320 theory of what exactly happened to telena'sar I asked her 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.800 to lay it out from start to finish her best guess, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.720 based on the research she's done and the people she's 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:02.160 talked to. 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.280 I think Telina found out that Corey had either opened 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.200 a credit card in her name or ad used one 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.800 without her permission, and then once the pandemic hit, Teleina 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.600 was no longer traveling for work and she was home 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.880 looking at the bills, and that's when she found it, 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.879 and I think she confronted Corey and told her she 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.879 had to leave. But I think Corey also played to 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.320 Telina's feelings and was like, I have nowhere to go, 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.080 give me some time. After speaking to her ex husbands, 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.800 I learned that Corey was all about waiting on end 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.200 times of sorts, and I think she believed that that 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.080 was coming. When COVID hit, she thought this is it 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:42.680 and that's when everything started to spiral. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:48.200 The mayor today calling the spread unpredictable and. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.960 When get indicated, they die. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.680 The psycho repeat, and that's when Corey started planning her murder. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.720 I think she either poisoned her over time to make 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.080 her week, or slip something into her food or drink 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.800 that night's make her extra sleepy. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:02.080 She was going to lay down. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.879 For a while and said that she would chat with 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:05.600 her later. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:11.199 And once Teleina was completely out, Corey probably hit her 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:16.000 in the back of the head. I think she started 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.320 cutting her up in the bathtub in the master bedroom 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.160 because it was big, and then I think after that 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.800 she moved her into the garage and finished there because 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.720 that's where the freezer was and it was closest. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.280 When we got to the kitchen, we noticed the freezer 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:32.040 was not there. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.160 I think she then wracked up Telina in garbage bags 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.480 and put her in the freezer and waited. Eventually she 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.200 brought the freezer in the white trailer over to Billie's 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:43.960 and plugged it in to keep the body frozen. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.240 Saw an orange extension cord going into the back of 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.800 this trailer. That's weird. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.040 And then when she went to the interview with Weber, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.400 he asked her about the trailer and she freaked out, 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.600 and that's why she sold it and rented the U haul. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.159 They said there was some sort of travel trailer in 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.040 the driveway, a white cargo trailer. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:05.600 Yeah, it's old. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.240 She took the truck, hitched up the rented trailer with 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.959 the freezer, and drove to Arkansas to the remote property 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:12.560 she'd been looking at buying. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.280 And she said, well, I want to buy it today. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.359 After she returned, she scrapped the truck and tried to 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.640 tie up loose sentence, but the truck was in too 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.560 good of shape to actually scrap so it raised some alarms. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.359 As for the motive, Corey had nothing. She had no job, 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:34.199 no money, no car. The car she was even driving, 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.200 the G six, belonged to Telina, So. 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.160 Doing things as an executor before we know she's dead 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.480 is presumptuous. 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.520 And she realized she'd been caught and she started scrambling, 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:46.760 and there's really nothing else. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.680 Jess has had little doubt about Corey's guilt pretty much 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.760 from the beginning, but today she is still on shore. 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:01.000 If Corey acted alone and if Marty was involved in 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:05.080 any way. She even shared these concerns with the district attorney. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.560 I get the number for Jack Thorpe, and I put 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.000 Rosie on three way on conference, and I said, will 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.320 you just mute yourself and just be there, like emotionally, 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.920 just just so I know somebody else is there. And 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.840 I can remember what said later on like I'm really upset, 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:25.000 And I said, I think Marty helped. I literally told him, 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:29.320 I'm positive in my mind that he had something to 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:30.880 do with all of this. 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.080 Jess mentioned that she had been communicating with Marty regularly 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.600 throughout this whole time. She had a lot of material 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.400 that could potentially be useful. 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.000 I shared an album with him on Facebook, I think 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:44.919 the same one that I shared with you, because he 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.000 wanted all of our screenshots, but two and two together. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.320 Still, after their call, Jess was left with the distinct 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.480 feeling that the DA disapproved of how much she inserted 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:56.840 herself into the case. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.880 He was kind of scolding me. I mean, he made 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:01.880 me feel I'm sure he's really good at his job. 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.880 I'm not saying he's not saying his bedside manner. Maybe 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:06.840 isn't that cool. He made me feel like I was 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.439 responsible for something that I'm not the police. 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:10.760 I'm not. 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:16.159 I'm some girl just on the internet and I didn't know. 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:22.280 I didn't know what I had until afterwards. 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.680 Since Corey's arrest for Telena's murder, she's also been charged 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:31.240 with attempted murder in Wisconsin, accused of trying to fatally 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:37.240 poison her former neighbors, Sherry and Mike Siegler using homemade ricin. 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:44.240 We came home to stuff kitty litter or broken sheet 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.280 rock material scattered throughout our house, especially on my side 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.480 of the bed and in my underwear drawer. This was 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.880 very personal and I felt particularly scared. 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.680 It's unclear why but prosecutors decided Corey should face charges 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:04.879 in Wisconsin first before standing trial for Telena's murder. The 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.560 rice In trial has been delayed for years, but finally 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.119 it's scheduled to take place in June twenty twenty five, 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.440 just a week after this episode airs. I'll be attending 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.600 and I'll update you all from Wisconsin. Still there's no 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:25.560 trial date set for the murder of Tilena. Her loved 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.040 ones are waiting, clinging to the hope that a murder 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:33.760 trial will bring long overdue answers about what really happened 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:38.800 in the confusing, chaotic early days of the pandemic. There's 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:43.000 no question that COVID hindered the efforts of the official investigation, 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:50.840 made it harder to see people behind their masks, isolation, fear, distraction. 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.159 These were unprecedented challenges in a world gone mad for 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:59.320 a while, and maybe that's exactly what the perpetrator was 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:04.359 hoping for. Talina's family worries that the more time passes, 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.720 the harder it may get to prosecute the case, that memories, 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.760 evidence could be lost to the winds of time. 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:22.440 There's the typical process of this, there's the murder, the investigation, hopefully. 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.320 You know, somebody is a family you know and arrested, 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:31.800 you know, and the family, you know, they bury their 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:36.000 loved one and then two three years down the road 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:42.159 there's a trial as typical. Correct, That is not our case. 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.920 Over many conversations, Talina's sister, Cheryl told me that her 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.960 family was struggling with the fact that Talina's body wasn't 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.240 yet cremated according to her wishes, They were unable to 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.119 give her a final resting place. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:05.440 We do not blame authorities. What happened was they determine 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:11.240 that they needed her body. This case is more circumstantial 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:17.280