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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Day, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Ah, let's do it live on a Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's Daily. Merely bow the great ze, Gibbe, how

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Speaker 2: you doing? Boys?

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Speaker 3: Doing great? Man? Obviously?

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Speaker 4: I hope that everybody you know as well at the

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Speaker 4: Bishop estates you're say.

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Speaker 3: The bigger question is how is your house?

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Speaker 2: I would describe my feelings this morning in the six

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour. You guys are familiar with the film Rambo

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Speaker 2: First Blood Part two.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, I thought you were gonna maybe go with Monty

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Speaker 4: Python in the Meaning of Life for the the Glute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, do you remember when the when the Russians

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Speaker 2: trap So he goes into Vietnam to go get his buddies,

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Speaker 2: and then he's they don't want him to get his buddy.

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Speaker 2: He's supposed to take pictures. Remember, that's the whole premise

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Speaker 2: is he's just supposed to take pictures. Well, you can't

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Speaker 2: send Rambo into Vietnam and expect him to just take pictures.

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Speaker 2: So he starts rescuing people. But then the chopper won't

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Speaker 2: get the POW's on with him. They leave him there, right,

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Speaker 2: and so then the Russians scoop him up and they

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Speaker 2: cut him up, and they put leeches on him, and

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Speaker 2: then they dip him like in the sewage that's just

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Speaker 2: running out of the camp. They just put him in

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Speaker 2: the sewage and then they slowly like lift him out

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Speaker 2: of the sewage. That's how I felt this morning. The most,

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Speaker 2: the most was just absolute gut punch of it all

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Speaker 2: was Beamsy Bootsy both flew like, I don't even know

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Speaker 2: how you get the flu in may both flew. NBC

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Speaker 2: is holding strong to this point, but who knows.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's beaten this a couple times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's hardy.

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Speaker 2: I think so, and I think I don't know the

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Speaker 2: other two. I don't know what's going on. So the

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Speaker 2: Blonde and I have remained unfettered to this point. The

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Speaker 2: most soul crushing thing, though, was the walk downstairs to

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Speaker 2: get Buddy Garrity out to go to the bathroom and

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Speaker 2: give him his breakfast, and to see him too, had

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Speaker 2: vomited a third, Like I didn't even know it could

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Speaker 2: transfer or did he get into something that got him sick.

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Speaker 2: So after after just an entire night of triage, then

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Speaker 2: to realize I was doing dog triage too, was was

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Speaker 2: not fun. And then that's a whole other level because

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Speaker 2: now he's stepping in it and it's you know, like

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Speaker 2: a dog will not go in his in his kennel.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to do that. So like this was

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Speaker 2: how much of an emergency this was for him? He

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Speaker 2: tried to like projectile out and most of it did

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Speaker 2: get out, but there were some remnants that were inside

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Speaker 2: the kennel. So that's how how dire the situation was

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Speaker 2: for Buddy Garrity.

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Speaker 3: Last night, for Buddy Garrity, brutal itle hear about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah for him, poor me, I cleaned poor you.

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Speaker 3: That's right. We shouldn't forget that. Yeah you are.

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Speaker 4: You're left there right now currently healthy to clean up

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Speaker 4: the mess in the muck, which is a sad it's

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Speaker 4: a sad place to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do people how do people get sick this

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Speaker 2: time of year? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I was understand it, wondering the same thing.

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Speaker 2: There were six kids at Beamsy's lacrosse practice last night

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Speaker 2: because all of them were sick.

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Speaker 3: What the heck is going Something's running a muck man,

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Speaker 3: Something's going on in Hudson. Something Now, I think it's

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Speaker 3: going on everywhere. Be something.

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Speaker 2: I reached up to the radio fenced.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I reached out to the Great Fishman today about comradxes.

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Speaker 5: He was like, it is going around like kids galore

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Speaker 5: coming down with it crazy. I'm like, what, man, it

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Speaker 5: is May. It is the middle of May. It is

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Speaker 5: seventy three degrees. No, it's not play any degrees on

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Speaker 5: our on our piece of property we're currently broadcasting from.

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Speaker 2: You guys got a brisk in there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So I've been here all day trying to figure

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Speaker 3: it out. I have.

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Speaker 5: I have tried. It is not it does not seem

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Speaker 5: to move. I thinking that going forward, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: need long sleep.

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Speaker 3: I got you.

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Speaker 4: I can't handle in the break your boy over here me.

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Speaker 4: I do not like sitting in heat and humidity. And

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you notice, but on a couple

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Speaker 4: of those hot days last week, it was like sweltering

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Speaker 3: So I went and I looked.

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Speaker 4: I found the thermostatic undisclosed at the undisclosed location, right

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Speaker 4: house condo.

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Speaker 3: Who can't.

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Speaker 2: Any number of things?

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Speaker 4: And I found the therm set and I looked at

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Speaker 4: it and I said, man, it says it's seventy seven

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Speaker 4: in here. And I was like, but that's awful. And

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Speaker 4: I looked it was still on heat. So I had

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Speaker 4: to then switch. I put it onto cool, and now

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Speaker 4: it's sixty six, but sixty six, like I'm in short,

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Speaker 4: I feel great. Sixty six is totally manageable in here.

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Speaker 4: We'll have to get it right into a nice sweet spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I'm good now. Like at one point today

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Speaker 3: it was crazy.

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Speaker 4: My house is more when I woke up because I

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Speaker 4: had switched. And by the way, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: If a car possesses the technology of where you just

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Speaker 4: set it at a temperature, we'll call it sixty eight degrees,

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Speaker 4: where I set my car at sure that it knows

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Speaker 4: it just gets it to sixty eight. If I have

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Speaker 4: to heat, I'm going to get it to sixty eight.

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Speaker 4: If I have to cool, I already get it to

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Speaker 4: sixty eight. Why is it that you have to put

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Speaker 4: on these SERR sets? And I'm sure there is one

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Speaker 4: out there, maybe I just don't even know about it.

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Speaker 4: Some'm cool I don't even know about But why why

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Speaker 4: do I have to set it on heat or cool?

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Speaker 3: I just said it. Here's a temp. I want you

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Speaker 3: sort it out.

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Speaker 4: If the numbers below that, I like it, heat up,

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Speaker 4: If the numbers above that cool down, what's the deal?

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Speaker 2: I like it. There's got to be that technology somewhere.

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Speaker 4: It exists in every car, not even I mean, any

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Speaker 4: car's got that technology.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point. I well, not any car.

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Speaker 2: On some cars you have to set the AC or

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Speaker 2: the heat, I guess, but I mean those cars now

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Speaker 2: and then it goes it needs to go to get you.

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Speaker 4: To where, right, That's all I want. Give me an

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Speaker 4: auto thermostat. This is the temperature i'd like all year long.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: This is a temperature. This is my home temperature. This

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Speaker 3: is what I would like it.

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Speaker 2: Do you you're sixty eight year round?

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Speaker 3: Uh no, I'll do.

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Speaker 4: In the in the with the heat because I always

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Speaker 4: think those things are wrong. So in the in the

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Speaker 4: in the winter, I put the heat to sixty six.

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Speaker 4: In our house is always perfectly comfortable. Yeah, I'm always

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Speaker 4: air on the side of cool. But with the ac

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Speaker 4: it's it gets oppressive when you're running that thing NonStop.

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Speaker 4: So in the summer, I think I'm like at like seventy,

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Speaker 4: but I feel like I seventy feels like sixty. I

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Speaker 4: feel like it's off two degrees in bolt directions. So

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Speaker 4: if I cool get seventy, I feel like I'm at

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Speaker 4: sixty eight. If I heat to sixty six, I feel

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Speaker 4: like I'm at sixty eight.

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed what hotels are doing now where you'll

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Speaker 2: say that, like as soon as I get to the hotel,

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Speaker 2: like all the way down, like all the way down,

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Speaker 2: go to sixty four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one hundred degrees in those rooms, And it's nonsense.

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Speaker 4: Those stumer says. It's only an work.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of work, and there's no way it

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Speaker 2: Knowels like it would be so much more efficient to like, hey,

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Speaker 2: someone's checking into eleven oh two today. Let's get this

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Speaker 2: sucker to seventy and then it's then at least we

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Speaker 2: can move it where we need. But you just have

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Speaker 2: to start at ground zero and try to start eighty.

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Speaker 2: You can't. It never gets there, man, I mean, it

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Speaker 2: never gets there. I was singing about that with you

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Speaker 2: guys at the down at the West Virginia Resort and thinking,

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Speaker 2: I remember that was not a great heating and cooling situation.

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Speaker 4: Oh baby, And I don't know about you guys. I

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Speaker 4: cannot sleep in the heat. No, I possibly can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Now. You could freeze me.

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Speaker 4: You could have me in an igloo. I'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: I can put on a dice down comforter. I'll be great.

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Speaker 4: But I cannot.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't.

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Speaker 3: At some point, you can't take anything else off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were I remember, And I don't know if

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Speaker 2: this ever happened to you at Emery. It happened to

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Speaker 2: me once when I was in Tallahassee where the ac

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Speaker 2: humidity in the heat, and you did everything you could,

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Speaker 2: but because it wouldn't cool off at night, there's just

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Speaker 2: At that point, it was one to say it was

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Speaker 2: the only thing I could do, thank god, I'd a

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Speaker 2: ceiling fan. But I would take my sheets and put

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Speaker 2: them in cold water and then just wring them out

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Speaker 2: and have the fan pour on me. That's the only

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Speaker 2: thing I could do. That was it, And it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It's it's nothing. It doesn't worse than a sweaty bed.

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Speaker 2: It's just awful, awful. It's all you can do that

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Speaker 2: a little extreme well, I mean that you can do

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Speaker 2: with that type of humidity, though like with the outc

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Speaker 2: there's no you're not getting anything done.

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Speaker 3: Two things.

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Speaker 4: One, when I was in Atlanta, yes, there was a

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Speaker 4: time where our fraternity house lost its AC in like

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Speaker 4: August or September, Bruce, So we're basically in a brick

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Speaker 3: It was. We were in a pizza oven. Basically awful.

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Speaker 4: And then to no surprise I'm sure for you, but

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Speaker 4: I did grow up in California, and yes, you could

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Speaker 4: make the case that for the majority of the year,

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Speaker 4: the you know, the East Bay where I grew up,

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Speaker 4: of the Bay Area is a fairly moderate temperate climate,

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Speaker 3: But there are.

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Speaker 4: Weeks every year where it's in the nineties and it

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Speaker 4: can be humid and all of this. Do you believe

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Speaker 4: do you think that I grew up in a house

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Speaker 4: with ac No, no nedro, no, exactly, not a chance

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Speaker 4: so in the solution was open everything up. And we

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Speaker 4: had a bunch of fans no, so it was unbearable.

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Speaker 4: Did you sure we like my I would have like

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Speaker 4: ice packs on her. It was like, what are we

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Speaker 4: doing here?

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Speaker 3: Ord, DNA, God almighty.

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Speaker 2: We had no you know, on the Ponderosa there's no

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Speaker 2: ac either. But and so there's always a like oo,

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Speaker 2: same in there too.

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Speaker 3: There we go, nest.

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Speaker 3: Just otto you just you're telling me want.

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Speaker 3: And I why can't it?

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Speaker 4: If it's too low, raise it if it's too high.

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Speaker 2: But I think that the negotiat that we reached that

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a right. Nobody's really happy.

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Speaker 4: You're at the highest highest end of your range and

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Speaker 2: Yes, I can't go. I can't go A degree warmer, No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: it could make sense anyway, And we go to Atlanta

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Speaker 4: we go down to this house and it's big out.

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Speaker 4: Everybody can stay in there. And the first night you

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Speaker 4: there was like battles for days. Never spoken of either,

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Speaker 5: That's how when we go to my in laws in Florida,

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Speaker 3: She distracts, and I just so where.

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Speaker 2: People they want it warmer.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Oh yeah, because it's not even great.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. Maybe some people just get

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Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, it's usually that. I think

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Speaker 3: You gotta go with it. Yeah, you gotta be.

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Speaker 2: Too cool, man. You live in a society. Man, It's

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Speaker 2: got to be the right way to go here. Hey,

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Speaker 2: apparently we acquired Zadarias Smith. Did you guys know this?

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Speaker 3: We did.

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Speaker 4: We don't show about that yesterday. We had guests talking

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Speaker 2: But if that was all just it was all just guesswork.

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Speaker 2: Now it's that was all just in theory. This is

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Speaker 2: now official. Zadarius Smith, officially a Cleveland Brown saw some

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Speaker 2: of the images and videos coming out today. The Vikes

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Speaker 2: will eat one point one seven to seven mil in

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Speaker 2: form of signing bonus. The Browns adjust Smith's cap charge

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Speaker 2: down to three million and twenty twenty three. The upside

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three is up to almost thirteen in cash.

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Speaker 2: What does all this mean, buddy?

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Speaker 4: It means basically everything we went through yesterday. The Browns

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Speaker 4: the league. Jim Swartz so much flexibility. He's got inside

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Speaker 4: adding Okuran quote to it. I mean, Browns have three

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Speaker 4: four seasons on your roster, that's good. You know, we're

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Speaker 4: hearing all this stuff about how great the rounds are

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Speaker 4: I've been saying we're gonna play a lot more man

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Speaker 4: So I think we've built a defense that can be

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Speaker 4: the football. And I think that's exactly what you wanted

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Speaker 4: it to be. It's not a bad contract for the

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Speaker 4: Browns at all. His cap charge, according to you know

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Speaker 4: what field Yates had reported, is down to three million

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Speaker 4: this year. Now he's got upsided to thirteen million in

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Speaker 4: cash depending on what he does. But you've got the

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Speaker 4: you have a three million dollar cap number, and so

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Speaker 4: it doesn't really even preclude you from doing other things

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Speaker 3: This goes on.

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Speaker 2: Well that's what we're doing yesterday. That's the old cloney.

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Speaker 2: We need one more, one more, I think we need

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Speaker 2: one more. That's kind of it doesn't stop because this

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Speaker 2: just what what else can we do? Is there anything

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Speaker 2: to add more to it, to have a shot, and

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Speaker 2: we do have a shot, but to have a shot

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Speaker 2: in an AFC that is just absolutely absurdly loaded. Speaking

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Speaker 2: to two hundred good size on that officially in his

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Speaker 2: as a u DFA in twenty nineteen, Westry has approve

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Speaker 2: appeared in eight career games, the two starts. Most extensive

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Speaker 2: So I like the frame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good size.

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Speaker 4: Apparently he's been a good special teams player and talking

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Speaker 4: to try to either make this team as a practice

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Speaker 4: four to two hundred, that'll be the biggest corner in

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Speaker 3: I just want to go back to Zadarius real quickly.

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Speaker 4: Was walking around the cafe and we had, by the way,

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Speaker 4: the right out of New Orleans today. We had Jumbalaya, right,

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Speaker 4: little Jumbalaya, some Cajun shrimp. We had some Cajun alligator

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Speaker 2: Boy, that's unique.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good. It was good. It was good.

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Speaker 3: They're doing it. I mean killing over there. It's it's

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Speaker 3: it's world class.

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Speaker 2: Now that guy knows what he's doing. Man, I'm not

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Speaker 2: surprised at all. The old train would know what to

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Speaker 2: do there. Yeah, absolutely, boy, So he went, you went Gator.

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Speaker 3: I had that.

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Speaker 2: I've had that once in Florida, and it was.

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Speaker 3: I want to say, get the Gator byte appetizer.

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Speaker 2: Or yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: And this wasn't Reddit, this was not It was a chickeny.

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Speaker 2: I remember it being like a gristly chicken is kind

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Speaker 4: Almost had the texture of almost like a It had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't. There wasn't a gristle. No, it was

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Speaker 3: unlike Will Scarlett was nothing like what I remembered.

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Speaker 2: The scarlet.

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Speaker 5: He thought it was tough. I told I'm mistaken. He

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Speaker 3: Today. By the way, Scarlett, he's.

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Speaker 2: At a totally different standard now. He's a different human

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Speaker 2: He's on a different plane the scarlets. This is not

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Speaker 2: or form. And you got his new helmet too.

440
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 4: He's got a great fresh helmet today. It was the

441
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 4: best haircut that he's ever had.

442
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, luminary. They were illuminaries around, by the way.

443
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,719
Speaker 4: I was teasing some of our luminaries way up on

444
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,959
Speaker 4: the on the football side about Zadarius Smith, and they

445
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 4: had a lot of just very pleased smiles.

446
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: I would say, the fact that they were able to

447
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 3: get Sadarius Smith, I bet they were, yeah, quite pleased,

448
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: quite pleased. Oh, by the way, I've meant tell you

449
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 3: guys this, And have you guys both seen Air?

450
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: No?

451
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: I have not? What?

452
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god, watched it? Yes, okay, so we watched

453
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 4: this day and I watched it last night.

454
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Speaker 2: It's great, is it?

455
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 3: It is great?

456
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: Damon is great, Bateman is great, Affleck is great, Chris

457
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 4: Tucker is awesome. And then Viola Davis plays Jordan's mom.

458
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 4: She is incredible. The agent new or David falk Is.

459
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 4: It's just so great, and it's the soundtrack is awesome,

460
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 4: it's straight. The opening montage about what was going on

461
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 4: in the world nineteen eighty four is you're just like

462
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 4: love it, and and then it's awesome. It's just an

463
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 4: awesome story and it's crazy that how they pulled it

464
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: off and basically Sonny Vacaro, you know, made it happen.

465
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 4: George Raveling was apparently very instrumental in it in terms

466
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 4: of him going to Nike, but how it came to

467
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 4: be the shoe designer himself, his story is awesome.

468
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: I think it's pet Hatfield or Hatfield did the later ones. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 2: it's Pete is the g he was Hatfield did the

470
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: later ones. Yes, right, this is unfortunately said the guy.

471
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: Pete passed away before they were able to He even

472
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: knew that the movie was going to be made. So

473
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Speaker 2: what's interesting is the the original ones don't have the

474
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: jump Man No no, no no, it's like a.

475
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

476
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 4: And and the Jumpman logo though was also created by

477
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: the shoe design or later on, went off of the

478
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 4: poster and he's like it looks like he was like flying,

479
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: and so he made it off of that, and they

480
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: show at the end you get to see the real stuff,

481
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: like the real designer with Jordan and how they became

482
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 4: really really close and with the the original the poster

483
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 4: that he has it made the Jumpman logo and all that,

484
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: because right when you buy, Like, if you buy a

485
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 4: Jordan four, let's say they released Jordan four white cements.

486
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Speaker 4: If you get it with the Jumpman logo, people know

487
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 4: it's a new one. If you get with the Nike

488
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: Air logo where it says Nike Air on the back

489
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 4: is what it said? Actually, yes, on like the Jordan fours,

490
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: so the back on the back exactly.

491
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Jumpman means it? Yeah, what it was new?

492
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: But the so the did the Jordan four? What was

493
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Speaker 2: the first Jordan that had the Jumpman on it?

494
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Speaker 3: It had Wailing five. I don't think the five did?

495
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: Did it on the tongue? Maybe my five golf shoes

496
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: have it on the tongue.

497
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Speaker 4: My five golf shoes have it on the tongue, But

498
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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's modern modern it of it?

499
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: Sure? Here we can look this up I have.

500
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's that's interesting. What the first

501
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: Jordan with jump I first, first Jordan, I got it here?

502
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 3: Then shoot with jump Man logo?

503
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: Jordan three. So that was introduced by Tinker Hatfield in

504
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight. Wow, So on the three it's on

505
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: the soul, isn't it?

506
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah, because it's not on the shoe, I.

507
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: Don't think so. Yeah, it looks like it's the three.

508
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: It is, yeah, eighty eight so cool.

509
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 4: It wasn't until a photo shoot with Nike to promote

510
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 4: the Air Jordan one in eighty five that MJ did

511
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: the Jumpman posing a pair of Nikes wearing the black

512
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 4: toe Air Jordan one in a black and red Air

513
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 4: Jordan flight suit with Chicago Skyline is a backdrop. He's

514
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 4: sort of greatness with this pose. And he said, I

515
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: wasn't even dunking on that one. People think I was.

516
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 4: I just stood the floor, jumped up, spread my legs

517
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: and they took the picture. I wasn't even running. Everyone

518
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 4: thought I did that by running take off. Actually it

519
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: was just a ballet move where I jumped and spread

520
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: my legs and I was holding the ball in my

521
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 4: left hand. The first two nightke Heair Jordans said have

522
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: a special logo. However, it was the Air Jordan Wings

523
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: logo the designers Peter Moore, that's the guy Peter Moore

524
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: applied to the Air Jordan one Air Jordan two on

525
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 4: the Air Jordan hangtag. Though the image above was used.

526
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: This the first technical use of the Jumpman logo. So

527
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: it was on the ones in as a photo actually,

528
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 4: and then they put.

529
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: It on the three. Was revolutionary.

530
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: Like many of Tinker Hatfield's design he saw that Tinker

531
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 4: Hatfield saw the image of the Air Jordan one photo

532
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 4: shoot and logo by Peter Moore in a bulb went

533
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: off for a logo placement on the third shoe. And

534
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: the third one is also the first one that has

535
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 4: a visible Nike bubble, right.

536
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: Bubble, yeah, yep, yeah.

537
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: It was placed on the tongue. It was placed on

538
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: the tongue of the three.

539
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, And then it was on the tongue

540
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: of the four, yes, tom right, but not the back

541
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: but not the back, no, correct. And then so the

542
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: flight suit that you're talking about, that's the pants that

543
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: I still have. I have those, Yeah, I know. That's

544
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: the black and red ones that I have that I

545
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: had as a kid that I'm that I'm trying to

546
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: get NBC to understand how cool they are, and he

547
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: refuses because they're too he says, they're.

548
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: Too loose, unbelievable.

549
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, these things are priceless.

550
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have no idea, but it is. It is

551
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: an walk down for people of our age.

552
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: It is so much.

553
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: It's awesome. And the way they tell the story.

554
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 4: I mean, the one thing I didn't like is they

555
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: kind of made Phil Knight seem like a little bit

556
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: of like a buffoon, and he has no buffoon and

557
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 4: but Affleck kind of played him a little bit like

558
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 4: a weird kind of bozo.

559
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: So I didn't love that. But Damon is his passion.

560
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: His zest is unreal and he plays he's a carro

561
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: and he's so good and uh then went to left

562
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: and then was involved in the Ed O'Bannon where it

563
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: was I think it was ed obannon lawsuit about.

564
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah and name, image and likeness, which led to where

565
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: we are now. He was also he was also the

566
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 2: one recruiting Lebron for Adidas when when that decision was

567
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: was trying to be done.

568
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: So how did he ever end up leaving Nike?

569
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure just power.

570
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 5: He was fired from Nike what because he was planning

571
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 5: of pursuing other business plans that didn't involve the company.

572
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: This choice was something that the co founder of Nike,

573
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 5: Phil Knight, did not agree with.

574
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Speaker 4: And they have they have a cool relationship in the

575
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: in the movie but I mean they.

576
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: Go on to go ahead.

577
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: But let's just say Jordan earns four hundred million a

578
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: year passive income because of the mom, his mom calling

579
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: up and demanding a percentage of the thing which nobody

580
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: had ever had ever.

581
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean offered Magic Johnson this deal. Remember in the

582
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: Showtime series, they offered Magic Johnson this deal, yep, and

583
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: he turned it down. They went Carl Hurst.

584
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: The Karl left Nike for Adidas, then also went to Rebok.

585
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: He founded the ABCD camp in Elite showcase of high

586
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: school basketball standouts from eighty four to oh so, could

587
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: you imagine?

588
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 4: The funny thing that made me look up right away

589
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: was Madden at the famous Man stories. Man's made a

590
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: ton of money in his estate and family have made

591
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 4: a ton of money.

592
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: Off of the game.

593
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: But the money that he would have made if he

594
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 4: would have just taken EA stock as well as payment

595
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 4: would have been astronomical.

596
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: Well, wasn't that one where EA made it right later

597
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: with him? Like they didn't have to, They just chose

598
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: to to a degree. But not yes, correct, yeah, not

599
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: all the wayhole. It's kind of like stan Lee with

600
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: the Marvel stuff, Like he didn't get wealthy off of

601
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: the Marble stuff until Marvel made that right after they

602
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: made billions on the movies. Then they made that right

603
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: afterwards at the Marvel studios. But he wasn't not off

604
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: of that originally. So yeah, always take the points kids,

605
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,160
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606
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Speaker 2: Hey this, how about this? The NFL. They're saying that

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Speaker 2: this year Peacock will be the home for the first

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Speaker 2: ever exclusive live streamed NFL playoff game, presenting in an

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Speaker 2: NFL Wild Card game in prime time on Saturday, January thirteenth,

621
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. So two things jumped out to me

622
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Speaker 2: about this number One, that this wasn't Amazon Prime that

623
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Speaker 2: got it the first streaming exclusive from the other thing,

624
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Speaker 2: that go ahead.

625
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Speaker 3: Sorry did you did you say how much they paid

626
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: for it?

627
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 2: I have not gotten there yet. Okay, carry on, So

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised's prime, squirrel. I'm surprised it wasn't Prime. I'm

629
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Speaker 2: surprised that it's Prime Time until I found out the money.

630
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Speaker 2: So go ahead tell the people.

631
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Speaker 4: But I believe it's just mine me one hundred and

632
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: ten million right for one game, for one game, which

633
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: means that, in my mind, this is an NFL's test

634
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: of some type of potentially a pay per view model,

635
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: right clearly, because unless you have Peacock, you're going to

636
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: have to get Peacock to watch that game or you're

637
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: going to say no, one hundred and ten million dollars.

638
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: So like that means Peacock believes that it is going

639
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: to get a significant number of subscribers out of this,

640
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 4: and then their goal would then be to keep them

641
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: in the mix.

642
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's what that's what their bet is.

643
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: My guess is that Peacock will use this, they will

644
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 2: have to have other things like locked in. Peacock's go is.

645
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Of all the streamers and I deal with all the

646
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: time because of the college stuff that I do, Peacock

647
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: is the most into sports. So there's yeah, Premier leagues

648
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: on there. They've got racing on there, They've got some

649
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: golf on there, and they're going to have college football

650
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: on there in a very very big way. In college

651
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: basketball on there in a very very big way. So

652
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: that's the other part with Peacock is they're they're trying

653
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: to I suppose, go head to head with like ESPN

654
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: Plus for a sports home for streaming, and they have WWE.

655
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's true.

656
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: I have the whole the whole catalog, all the pay

657
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 4: per views everything, so all the old.

658
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Speaker 2: Hit the catalogs there on Peacock.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they basically ww network is on is just

660
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Speaker 4: is on Peacock, Now is on Peacock everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the money's nice. This would have been so for perspective, folks,

662
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Speaker 2: this would have been the Chargers Jaguars game from last

663
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Speaker 2: year's playoffs. Yep, that we got catatonic legendary and we

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Speaker 2: also got I mean, I don't know that Tony Dungee

665
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Speaker 2: was even there. Quite honestly, I'm not sure he was

666
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Speaker 2: even there. He was there in body, but not mind one.

667
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Speaker 2: Probably the worst called game I've ever seen.

668
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Speaker 3: He was like a Sucubis.

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Speaker 2: Of all the juice was gone. So yeah, I mean

670
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Speaker 2: it's a big spot to put something like this on

671
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Speaker 2: streaming only now it'll be in the local markets. So

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Speaker 2: for example, if it's US, I don't know give a

673
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Speaker 2: how would that go. Would that bid out or would

674
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Speaker 2: it automatically go to Channel three?

675
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Speaker 5: No, it will bid out most of the like the

676
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Speaker 5: primetime games. If it's on ESPN, you know that's determined

677
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 5: sooner rather than later. Teams are putting in bids, so

678
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Speaker 5: I'm assuming they'll bid for that. So you can watch

679
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Speaker 5: it on Peacock. You can watch it on NFL Plus

680
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Speaker 5: if you have a mobile device with the NFL Plus,

681
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Speaker 5: and they obviously the two competing cities. Otherwise that's it.

682
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Speaker 5: By the way, Peacock will also be the exclusive home

683
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Speaker 5: of an NFL regular season game, Bill's Chargers Saturday, December

684
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Speaker 5: twenty thirty eight pm.

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Speaker 3: Come again, that's a one off as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Bill's lease in a press release, this is

687
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Speaker 5: the fourth This is the fourth footnote. It says Peacock,

688
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Speaker 5: by the way to present its first ever exclusive NFL

689
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Speaker 5: regular season game December twenty third Bills Chargers December twenty third,

690
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Speaker 5: eight o'clock.

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Speaker 4: I guess they want to have a dry run before

692
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Speaker 4: the playoff game. But that's a pretty good dry run

693
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Speaker 4: the game. It's a pretty big game. Yeah, it's gonna

694
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Speaker 4: be a one of one that's an unopposed.

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Speaker 5: So I guess the NBC has NBC has the entire

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Speaker 5: day that day on the twenty third. That's because they're

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Speaker 5: doing a special Sunday or Saturday afternoon game at four

698
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Speaker 5: o'clock right after Bengals Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So that's that that day when they're running the

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Speaker 2: Bills game.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And so this Bengals Steelers into that, okay.

702
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Speaker 2: So, and I think that they're doing the same thing

703
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Speaker 2: with this playoff game. I think NBC has the early

704
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Speaker 2: game that's going to be on normal NBC along with Peacock,

705
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: and then they're going to push everybody to Peacock for

706
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Speaker 2: the primetime game. I'll tell you what's gonna be interesting

707
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Speaker 2: is what's the order of draft on this? Because if

708
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Speaker 2: you remember last year, the Monday night football game the

709
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Speaker 2: first weekend of the playoffs was Bucks Cowboys and that

710
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: was clearly the first round pick. And then where did

711
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: Jaguars Chargers end in the pecking order?

712
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: That was had to be toward the bottom. Yeah, I

713
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: think that was the last seed.

714
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Speaker 2: But a primetime Windows pretty good. So just for perspective,

715
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Speaker 2: this was last year in the first round, in the

716
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: early game on Saturday, it was the Seahawks and Niners. Yeah,

717
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: the late game was Chargers and Jaguars. Yeah, Sunday there

718
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: were three it was it was Bengals, Ravens early, Bills,

719
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: Dolphins middle of the afternoon and then Giants Vikings was

720
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Speaker 2: the night game. And then Monday Night football is Cowboys

721
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Speaker 2: and Bucks. So what's the order there?

722
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: Who?

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00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: Obviously Cowboys Bucks was the first pill one, So ESPN

724
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: got the number one choice. Who picked second? And what

725
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: did they pick? Is it Dolphins Bills in the afternoon

726
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: on Sunday?

727
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: Why do I feel like it was Ravens Bengals, like

728
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 5: start the day that was number two? I think we've

729
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: talked about that, Yeah, because that was in my mind,

730
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 5: that was a night that was a night game.

731
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Speaker 4: Because he reached over Sam Hubbard ticket. Yeah, that was

732
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 4: definitely a night game. That was a night game.

733
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Speaker 2: You sure it wasn't a late afternoon in tonight.

734
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: No, that's possible. It was dark. It was that when

735
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: that play happened, it was one hundred percent dark out hold.

736
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: So I'm just I just have this up and this

737
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean how it went chronologically, but like, I

738
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: feel like it did go this way. It's set up

739
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: to be. Like I'm on the ESPN scores page, and

740
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: typically they do them chronologically in order of time of day.

741
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: It was at noon, so it looks well, it looks

742
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: like that game was first, then Dolphins Bills, then Giants.

743
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: Vikings was late, but that doesn't make sense if.

744
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: It was in my recollection. Giants Vikings was not late.

745
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: Giants Vikings was the four o'clock.

746
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is out of order.

747
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 3: Vikings went into Bill's Dolphins. Was it was first? Yeah?

748
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill's Dolphins was won, Giants Vikings, and then Ravens

749
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: and Bengals was linking, yes, prim correct, Okay, all right,

750
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: there you go. So then was charge.

751
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Speaker 4: I don't think Ravens Bengals would have been a first

752
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 4: a second early pick because it was it wasn't even

753
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: it wasn't supposed to be a close game. There was

754
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 4: a pretty big spread in that because it was Tyler

755
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 4: Huntley and not Lamar. Pro Bowl notwithstanding.

756
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but all week long there was the report

757
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: like Lamar scratched himself. Remember, like on that Thursday.

758
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 2: I think either way, the quality of game they give

759
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: Peacock here is going to be fascinating. Like if you're NBC,

760
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: do you put the I mean, do you put all

761
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: your eggs into that thing?

762
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 4: What I would say if I'm Peacock, I would say, what,

763
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: give me the whatever AFC game the last Just give

764
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: me an AFC game, Give me the last draft pick

765
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: from the AFC. Fine, yeah, all the AFC games are

766
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 4: gonna be loaded.

767
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're ridiculous. I just don't. Just don't give me

768
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: Giants and Lions.

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00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: Just don't give me the NFC.

770
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah anything, I don't even want it.

771
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Speaker 4: I would say, don't even I don't don't even talk

772
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 4: to me, Eagles nine er, I don't care.

773
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Speaker 3: Give me whatever AFC game it is, It does not

774
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: matter to me.

775
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: That's the only one I want.

776
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: I saw, did you Ryan Clark? When I was at

777
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: the gym this morning? Ryan Clark was on and he

778
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 4: did his top five teams in the AFC. He went Chiefs, Ravens, Bengals, Jets, Bills.

779
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: He had the Ravens the number two team in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know. I don't I think. I mean,

781
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: like in twenty sixteen with Odell.

782
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 4: They're banking on the theory of what that receiving trio

783
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: is rather than the reality.

784
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: I think.

785
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the theory of Bateman as a first

786
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: round pick who hasn't done anything because he's been hurt

787
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: two years. This is two years. Odell hasn't been healthy

788
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: in a long time. He's coming off with two catastrophic injuries,

789
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: by the way, and the other Zay Flowers, who's a rookie.

790
00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: So somehow that's Jamar Chase and Higgins and boyd Yeah,

791
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: I mean I can't get there. That doesn't seem like

792
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: it to me.

793
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: It's oh boy, yeah, this is I was saying this

794
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: to Gibe earlier. By the way, I a little aside

795
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: backed to on Jordan real Quick. First NBA championship he

796
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: ever won was in the Jordan's sixes. I would not

797
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: have had that. It felt like he was so established

798
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: already by then, but it did take him a while

799
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Speaker 4: to win.

800
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, boys, we remember and we remember him in

801
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: the threes, in the fours from the dunk contest. He

802
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: won those two dunk contests back to back. Well, the

803
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: one was in Chicago, the other one was in uh Seattle.

804
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: I think Chicago won and Dominique right, which was Yeah,

805
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 4: that's part.

806
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: Of the greatest dunk contests of all time where they

807
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: like the Chicago crowd, Dominique got like a forty six

808
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: on the most ridiculous double pump windmill and they were like,

809
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: there's a forty six, Like Jordan wasn't losing. I think

810
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: Jordan went from the free throw line twice in the finals,

811
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Speaker 2: if memory serves. He did the one where he like

812
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: the kiss the rim one and then he did this

813
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: which is awesome, and then he did the jump from

814
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: the free throw line one. But I think he might

815
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Speaker 2: have done the jump from the free throw line thing twice.

816
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: I had to kiss the rim one where they turned

817
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 4: it into him like in space and he was dunking

818
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Speaker 4: the moon.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that poster. I had loved that poster.

820
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, awesome. Yeah, that was very strong. So I

821
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Speaker 2: think that's why we remember the threes in the fourst

822
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: because he wasn't. Yeah that's when you that's when it was.

823
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: He was the dude. So yeah, so all right, what

824
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Speaker 2: do we get you take it quick?

825
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Speaker 5: Take a quickie here, give a yeah, we can move

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Speaker 5: the other stuff to two fifteen.

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Speaker 2: All right, there we go. So the other stuff we'll

828
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Speaker 2: get into. Chris Simms he started ranking his top forty quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into the cities on that. Yes he did.

830
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Speaker 2: He loves a con He loves a little bit of

831
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Speaker 2: conflict in any sort of ranking. Coming up next, the

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Speaker 2: PFF guys, a conversation about Zari Smith does for us.

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Speaker 2: mentioned the PFF guys. They love Zadarias Smith. They're two

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Speaker 2: of our friends, Sam Mons and Steve Palazzola. They talk

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Speaker 2: about what Smith's trade to the Browns meets for the

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Speaker 2: Browns the off season and the team.

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Speaker 7: Zadarias Smith being traded to the Cleveland Browns' another one

854
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Speaker 7: where they're clearing cap space and they're just exchanging some

855
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Speaker 7: late round picks.

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Speaker 2: Here, what were the official.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there were two different So the Browns gave up

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Speaker 8: a twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four fifth Oh, there we go.

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Speaker 8: So Browns get Zadarius Smith, the sixth and seventh round

861
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Speaker 8: pick from Minnesota in twenty twenty five. The Vikings get

862
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Speaker 8: a twenty twenty four fifth round pick and a twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty five fifth round pick. So effectively, when you work

864
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Speaker 8: all this out. It shakes out to the Browns giving

865
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Speaker 8: up the equivalent of a seventh round pick to take

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Speaker 8: on Zadarias Smith's contract is effectively what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 7: And so I know, sometimes like when you see Hidarius

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Speaker 7: Smith's a good player, like when you see a name

869
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Speaker 7: go for a seventh round pick, it's almost always because

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Speaker 7: of cap relaf on one side and the other team

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00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 7: saying this is good use of a sixth or seventh

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Speaker 7: round pick or whatever it might be, or you know,

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Speaker 7: the way they exchange went, and the Browns having the

874
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 7: cap space to be able to handle this. I think

875
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 7: I love this move for the Browns.

876
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 3: That's great for Cleveland.

877
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 8: And that's despite them actually hitting their defensive line quite

878
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 8: hard this offseason, like ye's been an approach for They

879
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 8: added Acroonquo at the as an edge, they added Dalvin Tomlinson,

880
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 8: they came back in the draft with as Isaiah Maguire,

881
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 8: Like they've actually hit that general area pretty hard. And still,

882
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 8: when you know what, Zadarius Smith apparently is available for

883
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 8: almost nothing except the contract, let's get it done.

884
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 7: And I'll admit I might be a sucker for you know,

885
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 7: this name player moved from one team to the other

886
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 7: for a late round pick. I always call it a

887
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 7: win for the team getting the player, not a loss

888
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 7: for the team getting rid of him necessarily because they

889
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 7: probably had to. But I think this is a potential

890
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 7: home run for the Browns. It doesn't it's not going

891
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 7: to add three wins to their team or anything like that,

892
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 7: but is a sneaky good move. Zadarius Smith over the

893
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 7: last few years, he was hurt most of twenty twenty one,

894
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 7: but in twenty nineteen with the Packers eighty eight point

895
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 7: eight pass rush grade, twenty twenty with the Packers eighty

896
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 7: four pass rush grade, and then last year with the

897
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 7: Vikings eighty five pass rush grade. Zadarias Smith in his

898
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 7: last three full seasons has been one of the most

899
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 7: valuable edge defenders in the NFL, and he also moves around.

900
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 7: He's got a lot of his pressure standing up over

901
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 7: the B gap, rushing against guards.

902
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: And all that stuff.

903
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 8: That was about fifty last year.

904
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, so his ability to move around the defensive front

905
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 7: opens up for a pass rush package that has Miles

906
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 7: Garrett on one side, obo Ocuraquo, who's more of a

907
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 7: true edge, but he's got that he's a linebacker size.

908
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 7: Basically he can move around a little bit, and Zadarias

909
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 7: Smith as guys to create mismatches. But we're talking value wise.

910
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 7: When you look at war, you know PFF war metric.

911
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 7: Darius Smith is up in this, Cameron Jordan, Tonell Hunter,

912
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 7: his former teammate with the Vikings, DeMarcus Lawrence, Brandon Graham,

913
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 7: and some other big names because they're injured guys like

914
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 7: Nick Bosa because he missed some time or whatever. But

915
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 7: during those his last three full season, Zadarias Smith is

916
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 7: one of the most valuable edge defenders in the NFL.

917
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 8: I mean, he's basically averaging seventy pressures a season those

918
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 8: last three years, which is a figure that are only

919
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 8: four guys edge rushers in the NFL last season exceeded.

920
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 7: Now he'll be thirty one going into the season. But

921
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 7: it's not like when the Ravens traded a sixth rounder

922
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 7: or whatever it was for Kalais Campbell in his mid thirties.

923
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 7: They got two or three really good seasons out of

924
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 7: Kalais Campbell. So it's not like Zadarius Smith's going to

925
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 7: fall off a cliff or anything. I just think this

926
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 7: is incredible use of essentially, like you said, the equivalent

927
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 7: of a seventh round pick for the Browns. It's an

928
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 7: incredible use of it to take on this money for

929
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 7: a couple of years and really continue the upgrade on

930
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 7: that defensive line.

931
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 8: He's the best defensive lineman the Browns have ever had

932
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 8: alongside Miles Garrett. I mean, that's the way of looking

933
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 8: at it.

934
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 7: And they've had Jadavian Clowney, That's what I mean the

935
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 7: last couple of years.

936
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 8: He's better than Jadevian Clowney. He's more consistent, He's better

937
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 8: than anybody else they've had alongside him or opposite him

938
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 8: during that time, which has been the entire approach of

939
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 8: this Browns offseason. So I think when you look at

940
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 8: these and you say you always have a tendency to

941
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 8: view it as a win for the team acquiring the player.

942
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 8: I think that's because it is like these are inevitably

943
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 8: one sided trades because the team getting rid of the

944
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 8: guy is voluntarily getting worse just to fix their cap.

945
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 8: It's like we are getting rid of a player that

946
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 8: is good because we just don't want to pay him

947
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 8: this amount of money. We've got ourselves into trouble, and

948
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 8: we're trying to save cash effectively or save cap space

949
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 8: along the way, but almost by definition, you are voluntarily

950
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 8: getting worse, like you are removing a good player from

951
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 8: your team. And it's not even the picks you're getting back.

952
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 8: That's the important part. It's getting rid of that contract.

953
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so I think this is why who the

954
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 7: old tackle for the Steelers got traded like Marcus Gilbert

955
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 7: a few years ago. There was a point where NFL

956
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 7: teams were finishing, putting the finishing touches on their offensive

957
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 7: line for just give me Marcus Gilbert average starting tackle

958
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 7: for a fifth round pick. This is why I do

959
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 7: think it's wise for teams to stock up on Day

960
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 7: three picks, and maybe one per year if you've got

961
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 7: the cap space, one per year, you flip one for

962
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 7: a veteran if they're available. Right, there's always going to

963
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 7: be a team like the Titans were, you know, sending

964
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 7: guys to the street because they had to clear cap space.

965
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 7: The Vikings are clearing cap space. There's always gonna be

966
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 7: a team unloading. If you keep a healthy cap situation,

967
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 7: yes you can, and you and you stock up on

968
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 7: Day three picks. This is part of my press conference,

969
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 7: stock up on day three picks and then keep a

970
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 7: healthy cap situation.

971
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: Well that's the key.

972
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 7: If you could do those things, then you could pounce

973
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 7: and grab a Zadarias Smith at the right time.

974
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 8: This is why the approach of max out the credit

975
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 8: card and then pay it off, you know, at the

976
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 8: start of the league year is potentially problematic because you

977
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 8: have these teams that do that to such an extreme

978
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 8: level that you end up post draft, you know, having

979
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 8: to sign your rookies and around now where you you

980
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 8: just run out of camp space and you have to

981
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 8: clear You either have to get rid of players and

982
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 8: clear the.

983
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: Space or you have to you know how you're stuck.

984
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 8: So the other teams, the teams that actually manage it

985
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 8: in a different way way and maintain a sufficient degree

986
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 8: of camp space in May, in June, in the kind

987
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 8: of quote unquote offseason, those are the teams that have

988
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 8: the flexibility to take advantage of what ended up being

989
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 8: some of the best value deals in the NFL because

990
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 8: you're exploiting the fact that other teams aren't in as

991
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 8: healthy a situation as you. So last year that was

992
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 8: the Eagles, right, the Giants had to let go of

993
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 8: James Bradbury, who was their best corner yep, because he

994
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 8: cost eight million dollars and they were like too much,

995
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 8: can't have it, got to get rid of him, were

996
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 8: too tight, and they got rid of him for the

997
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 8: sake of eight million dollars. The Eagles were like, oh, really,

998
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 8: James Bradbury's available for nothing on the open market. Yes,

999
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 8: it's pounced on him. And then you get the best

1000
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 8: cornerback tandem in the NFL last year in Bradbury and

1001
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 8: Darius Lay and they end up being able to maintain

1002
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 8: or maintain that keep him around this year despite signing

1003
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 8: him to a big deal. So just because they had

1004
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 8: kept that situation where they had a good, healthy salary cap.

1005
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 7: Spot anything else on Zidarious So the Browns just just

1006
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 7: to recap some of the Browns moves this offseason, Obo

1007
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 7: o'curonquo on the edge opposite Miles Garrett. They had had

1008
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 7: Jadavian Clowney in and out last year with some injuries

1009
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 7: and all that stuff, but it was rough upfront, especially

1010
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 7: a defensive tackle. They bring in Dalvin Tomlinson on a

1011
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 7: big deal. They've needed a big run stopping nose tackle

1012
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 7: for a while, they drafted well, yeah, they drafted Siaki

1013
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 7: Eka to also be a big bodied nose tackle upfront there,

1014
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 7: and then they bring in Zadarias Smith on the edge

1015
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 7: as well a couple other draft picks and signings, guys

1016
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 7: like Maurice Hurst former top five PFF big board guy

1017
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 7: that fell to the fifth round because hard issues and

1018
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 7: maybe play in size. But it looks much deeper on

1019
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 7: the Browns defensive line right now.

1020
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean yeah, Isaiah Maguire I think was a

1021
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 8: significant addition as well. Yeah, this is on paper, this

1022
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 8: looks as good as that defensive line has looked for

1023
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 8: a long long time. And it's probably the best collection

1024
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 8: of talent they've had around Miles Garrett since he's been there,

1025
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 8: which is huge because it's been Miles Garrett nothing else

1026
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 8: for the last few years.

1027
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,640
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1049
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Speaker 5: Hello guys, how you doing?

1050
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: No he led with you?

1051
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: I led with you, I said, Ap joins us on

1052
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: the hotline.

1053
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 9: Well, I did not hear it through my phone, and

1054
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Speaker 9: this is why I need to make sure that I'm

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Speaker 9: at your undisclosed location the next time I'm able.

1056
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Speaker 2: To don't have it been here, AP, I'll tell you what.

1057
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: We'll see how Let's see how this goes today before

1058
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: we invite me to the end disclosed location. Let's see

1059
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: how this goes. Yeah, let's not get ahead of ourselves

1060
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: and you're putting the heat on me.

1061
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: Now, we're all counting on you.

1062
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Speaker 5: AP from the Pro Football Focus Crew. More from PFF Today,

1063
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Speaker 5: PF Heavy Today. The early twenty twenty three NFL roster

1064
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 5: rankings for all thirty two teams, Strengths, weaknesses, rookies to watch,

1065
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Speaker 5: and more. This is of course, prior to our acquisition

1066
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 5: officially of Zadarius Smith. So that being said, we get

1067
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Speaker 5: things going higher, lower, or just right.

1068
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Speaker 3: Should the rosters be okay? Go that direction?

1069
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Speaker 5: To kick things off at number fourteen, Your Cleveland Browns

1070
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 5: the biggest strength in twenty twenty three, they say, offensive line,

1071
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 5: biggest week this in twenty twenty three. Defensive line. Not

1072
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 5: so sure about that now. Obviously the X factor our

1073
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 5: quarterback rookie to watch, Cedric Tillman, and the over under

1074
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: is eight and a half. I'm not going to tell

1075
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 5: you what they predicted because it's not flattery from a

1076
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 5: roster standpoint, and we get things going with mister Bishop

1077
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 5: to lead US soccer high or lower, just right for

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Speaker 5: your Cleveland football brown.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the only reason that this is fourteen is

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00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: because of the X factor, because of the six games

1081
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: from Deshaun Watson last year. That's it. There's no other

1082
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: reason that this should be fourteen. We have a like.

1083
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: For example, if you play along with me for a second,

1084
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: let's say that you could say, lo, if we do this,

1085
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: what if last year didn't happen and you just had

1086
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: acquired Deshaun Watson the last time you signed, play led

1087
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: the league in passing, and he was on this roster

1088
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: is currently construct, this would be a top eight team

1089
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: in the NFL, no question. In my mind. We are

1090
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: better than Baltimore. We're better than Pittsburgh, We're better than

1091
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: I mean, both of those are ahead of us. From

1092
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: a total roster standpoint, we're better than Detroit. One of

1093
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: the things pff guys and I love them like, give

1094
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Speaker 2: us a list option so they don't have to read

1095
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Speaker 2: all of this. Just show me in a list. I

1096
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: like us better than Seattle. So to me, we're much

1097
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: much higher, much much better than fourteen.

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00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: Zigura agreed, agreed, agreed, And again this goes back to it. Look,

1099
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: we've got to go out and we have to prove

1100
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 4: it all of those things. Obviously, it says our bigness

1101
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 4: weakness was the defensive line. You had Zadarius Smith, who

1102
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: they were just so much over. So my guess is

1103
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: we would jump up into the top eight, which is

1104
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: exactly where I think we should be. This is a

1105
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 4: top eight roster and with if Deshaun Watson is what

1106
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: we believe that he will be, this is probably a

1107
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 4: top six team in the NFL, top eight team in

1108
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: the NFL one that should be very much into the

1109
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: final four in the AFC and have a chance to

1110
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: do things beyond that. And we've got to prove it,

1111
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: and we're gonna have to prove it right out of

1112
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 4: the gate. We've talked about that many many times. But

1113
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 4: I think that the way in which we have attacked

1114
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 4: our weaknesses and completely transformed this team, I think you

1115
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 4: got to tip your cap to Andrew Berry, Paldy Potessa.

1116
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: Now it's knock on wood. We have to stay healthy

1117
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: and then it's gonna be about Deshaun Watson. We have

1118
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: made it such that with some of these moves that

1119
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 4: while it is still all about Deshaun Watson, and that

1120
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: I think is ultimately the determiner of the ceiling, the

1121
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: floor has been raised significantly. We can win in a

1122
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 4: variety of ways with how talented I believe this defense is.

1123
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 4: But that is going to determine whether or not we

1124
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: are a team that will go to the AFC Championship

1125
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 4: or the Super Bowl or contend for the AFC.

1126
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 6: North Next higher core lower.

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00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 5: The number one roster according to PFF, the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 5: number two, the San Francisco forty nine ers. The biggest

1129
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 5: strength in twenty twenty three playmakers biggest weakness interior depth.

1130
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 5: Got a question that a little bit they have a

1131
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 5: tackle is their X factor?

1132
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: The ex factor is the quarterback?

1133
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: Agree?

1134
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 5: Come on, they had eleven and a half as they're

1135
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 5: over under and they took the under Zigura, they took

1136
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 5: the higher lower or just right? No, they took the Oh,

1137
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 5: they did take the over.

1138
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: Never mind, it's a loaded right, I mean, you think

1139
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 4: of the skill McCaffrey, deebo Ayuk Kittle, Trent Williams at

1140
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 4: left tackle, some other I think the rest of the

1141
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: line is a huge question mark. But then defensively, you

1142
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: got Hardgrave, Armstead and Bosa on the line, Fred Warner

1143
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: and Drake Greenlaw. The second level that Tavari's ward played

1144
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 4: great for you. Hufanga is a great safety. They drafted

1145
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 4: a safety early in this one. It's an incredibly talented.

1146
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 5: So why punish us when their quarterback situation is the

1147
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 5: same thing?

1148
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: Right? No, wait, even close to this?

1149
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: Well no, no, correct, But there be both. It can be both.

1150
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: It can be it can be that they're holding us

1151
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 2: unfairly and also that it almost doesn't matter who quarterbacks

1152
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers.

1153
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: Yes, all of that I believe is true.

1154
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: I do think though, if you put Deshaun Watson on

1155
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 4: the Niners scene, they're number one.

1156
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: Yes, true, higher, lower, just right. I think it's probably

1157
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: just right.

1158
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: I think that the amount of talent they have at

1159
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: the important positions on both sides of the ball is

1160
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 4: monstrous for this purpose. I think we're looking at the

1161
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: overall roster, and so maybe quarterback is not being weighted

1162
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 4: as heavily as it would be in other cases.

1163
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: Uh, it is a very complete roster. Pois out. It's

1164
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: good higher, lower or just right?

1165
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, for all the reasons you guys said,

1166
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 9: I would actually just maybe rank them a spot or

1167
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 9: two lower because to me, I still feel like to

1168
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 9: be at the top of this list, you need to

1169
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 9: have your quarterback position figured out, and you know, until

1170
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 9: they have a singular, consistent QB, to me, like will

1171
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 9: always be behind the Chiefs, the Bengals, and the Eagles

1172
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 9: of this league on paper because then the QB will

1173
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 9: always be some sort of question mark on their roster.

1174
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 9: So look like they're gonna be a great team again,

1175
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 9: there's no doubt about that, Like when you look at

1176
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 9: what they have right now, it's just until they get

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Speaker 9: that QB situation figured out, I don't know if you

1178
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 9: can put them at number two Necks.

1179
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: The Eagles team is the one team you look at

1180
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: and you're like, Okay, where's the flaw in this roster

1181
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 4: and you don't really see one. You know, read blankenship.

1182
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 4: Yes he's gonna have to step in its safety. But

1183
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 4: I mean they're so good upfront on both sides of

1184
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: the ball. Their skill is unbelievable. On the offense, they're

1185
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 4: the depth, they're loaded. But you get into the Bengals

1186
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: have question marks. The Niners, you know, you could say

1187
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 4: the rest of their line isn't as good the quarterback situation.

1188
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 4: You know, the Bills have holes on their roster. Kansas

1189
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: City's got a ton of holes on their roster, but

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Speaker 4: they have Patrick Mahomes. So none of these teams are

1191
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 4: are without flaw. And in fact, I would say when

1192
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 4: you look at like top to bottom, that's where I

1193
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: think our team. We are a very very balanced team.

1194
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: You know, what we don't have is a standout at

1195
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 4: this point a linebacker who's been a Pro Bowl caliber

1196
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 4: linebacker and a superstar of that. But we're as good

1197
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 4: upfront on the back end, I think as anybody in

1198
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Speaker 4: terms of the combination of those two.

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Speaker 3: We have the best offensive line.

1200
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Speaker 4: We have arguably the best running back now with Cooper

1201
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: Moore and DPJ with than Djoko. I think we got

1202
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: great skill. We've got Sehn Watson. I mean, that's the thing.

1203
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: We're just gonna be number one. If if our roster

1204
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: was plucked onto the Dallas Cowboys, for example, same players,

1205
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: one hundred percent, same players, but we were the Dallas Cowboys,

1206
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: I bet we're fifth on this list.

1207
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: Yep, all right.

1208
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a Cleveland bias. I think it's

1209
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: a bias against Watson.

1210
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 4: I think it's I think there's a bias against Watson.

1211
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 4: I also think it's bis against Cleveland because we haven't

1212
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: done it. Nobody believes in us.

1213
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have one winning.

1214
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 4: Season in the last ten years. If we were the

1215
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: Steelers with that talent, we would.

1216
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: Be that's a little different. I mean, use the Dallas analogy,

1217
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: like I think that's Pittsburgh. Okay, I'm for that, Like

1218
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: there's a yeah, that's a culture and all that stuff. Yeah,

1219
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: there's a perception of us that I see we're going

1220
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: we I do do the Madden thing, Like put us

1221
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: in Madden. If it's just a Madden rated player, then

1222
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: you're rated in the top five or six in the league, right.

1223
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 5: All right up next the Bengals at number three, poisl higher,

1224
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 5: lower or just right for the dirt and natty.

1225
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I'm okay with this.

1226
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: I know.

1227
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 9: I mean, we were just talking about the flaws that

1228
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 9: all these teams that the top still have, And for

1229
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 9: the Bengals, it's obviously their secondary still a bit of

1230
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 9: a question market. They might not have fully taken care

1231
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 9: of this offseason, but you know, it's still a really

1232
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 9: good looking roster they've got arguably, you know, one of

1233
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 9: the best receiving duos in the league. They've got a

1234
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 9: great quarterback. Now you add in that they should have

1235
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 9: a much better offensive line than last year, and now

1236
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 9: they have Orlando Brown. I'm okay with them being at three.

1237
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 9: I think you could, you know, argue the weaknesses of

1238
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 9: other teams and maybe put them a spot or two

1239
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 9: high or lower if you wanted to. But that's pretty fine.

1240
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: Bishop.

1241
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: This is hard because this is a pff thing where

1242
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: they they're just like putting numbers in to get in

1243
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: the answer, right, So there's no subjection to nature to

1244
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: the quarterback.

1245
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you this. So here's what

1246
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 3: I this happens.

1247
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 5: What if they get Dalvin Cook, where would you rank

1248
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 5: them who?

1249
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: Since I mean, I think I think the Brown kid

1250
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: out of Illinois is going to give him a lot.

1251
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: He's a hard physical runner. They stumbled into him, like,

1252
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: I think he's going to give him a lot. I

1253
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: would have I would I would just flip San Francisco

1254
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: in Kansas City based on the quarterback conversation, acknowledging that

1255
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: San Francisco has more questions, but that mahomes cheat code

1256
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: like I don't think Cincinnati should be ahead of Kansas

1257
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: City based on the last times we saw them play,

1258
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: but they are there. Peer Absolutely, they're right there. So

1259
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: it's I think they get this right, and that Normally

1260
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: what you see in these rankings, you see like Buffalo

1261
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 2: ahead of Cincinnati, you see other and that's not true.

1262
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: Cincinnati should be right there with Kansas City maybe a

1263
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: half step below. They just have Kansas City four. So

1264
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: I would just take Kansas City and put them where

1265
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: San Francisco is in San Francisco, where Kansas.

1266
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 6: City is next higher or lower.

1267
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 5: Number four is Kansas City. Number five is Buffalo, number six,

1268
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys, number seven, the New York Football Jets.

1269
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 5: And we start off with bo Bishop higher, lower or

1270
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 5: just right from a roster standpoint.

1271
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: Mister Bishop, well, I think if you're doing roster standpoint,

1272
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: then I think they're higher. I think they're better than Dallas.

1273
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: I think they're You could make an argument with Buffalo

1274
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: even I think Buffalo either has a couple of question marks.

1275
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: I don't there's not a whole lot here. This team

1276
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: would have been thirteen and four, and they scored twenty

1277
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 2: four points a game. They were seven and four last

1278
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: year before losing their last six with incompetent quarter incompetent

1279
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: quarterback play, and now they have Rogers, So they're really good.

1280
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: They're really good. They have a ton of weapons, there's

1281
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: a lot of things they can do. They're pretty good.

1282
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: They're really good on the defensive line. Yeah, I think

1283
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: that they should be higher. I think they're better than

1284
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: Dallas at the minimum, and I think they're right there,

1285
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: maybe even had a.

1286
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: Buffalo Zigura, what say you?

1287
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean with Rogers, Garrett Wilson, Quinn Williams, Sauce Gardner,

1288
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: they've got, I mean, what an elite quartet and probably

1289
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 4: you know, you'd say Dallas they would have Micah Parsons,

1290
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 4: they would have you know, Ceedee Lamb, they would have

1291
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 4: the corner digs and now they have to find Gilmour.

1292
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: I mean, these are both they're both good teams. I

1293
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: think Dallas's roster might be a little bit better overall

1294
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 4: because they don't have a glaring weakness and they're the

1295
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 4: line for the Jets, I think is the one thing

1296
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 4: that is concerning. And they don't really have a tight

1297
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 4: end that you're afraid of in any way, shape or form,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if, by the way, if the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys do either with Dalton Schultz moving on in free agency,

1300
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 4: but they're going to play a lot of Brandon Cook,

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01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 4: CD Lamb and Gallop out there with Tony Pollard and

1302
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 4: kind of slinging around the yard. I think ultimately I would.

1303
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 4: I think I'm fine with where it is. I'm fine

1304
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 4: with Dallas being where they are. These teams are all

1305
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: very good. That's what this team. It's loaded. The NFL's loaded.

1306
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna go through eleven teams and they didn't even

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01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 4: include us in that, and we should be. That are

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01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 4: all real legit Super Bowl contenders. I mean, I think

1309
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 4: at the end of they you said, push come to shove.

1310
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 4: Would I rather have Aaron Rodgers or would I rather

1311
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 4: have Dak Prescott. Of course I'd rather have Aaron Rodgers.

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01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, next higher or lower?

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 5: All right, I'm going to jump around a little, but

1314
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 5: still maintained in the integrity number eight, Baltimore number nine,

1315
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 5: the Chargers number ten, the Dolphins number eleven, the Seahawks

1316
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 5: number twelve, the Pukers thirteen, the Lions fourteen, US fifteen,

1317
01:04:53,960 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 5: the Jaguars sixteenth, the Minnesota Vikings, and pois out. We'll

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 5: start off with you on this one post trade. Obviously

1319
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 5: the trade not factored into this, but they made a

1320
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 5: few trades and it looks like they're gonna cut their

1321
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 5: star running back. Should they be higher, lower or just

1322
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 5: right at number sixteen?

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01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 9: I think I'd slide them down a little bit, but

1324
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 9: not by like that much, just because when you look

1325
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 9: at the teams behind them that are on this list,

1326
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 9: like the Commanders and let me see the Commander's Patriots,

1327
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 9: the Saints, like, I still think, you know, they're they're

1328
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 9: not that far behind those teams now, but you know,

1329
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 9: now they've lost the pro bowled rusher. I think that's

1330
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 9: that's huge, that's massive for them, and then they still

1331
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 9: have some holes to feel like cornerback they I don't

1332
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 9: know if they really found anybody who's going to replace

1333
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 9: Patrick Peterson. It just doesn't look like their defense is

1334
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 9: going to be able to play at the level that

1335
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 9: they were at last season, and so I think it's

1336
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 9: date to slide them down a slaughter two on this list,

1337
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 9: But I don't know if they should be significantly downgraded

1338
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 9: because of the trade.

1339
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 3: Bishop.

1340
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is about right. I mean, this

1341
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 2: is they were what thirteen and four last year?

1342
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, something like that amazing start.

1343
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they were. They were really good. They're so

1344
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: really competent. I think what's most interesting about Minnesota is

1345
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: like what is Quacy doing now? Like they're they were

1346
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: in cap hell? How does he get him out of it?

1347
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: What do they do with Cousins? What does that look

1348
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: like a year from now? In Minnesota? Like, of course

1349
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: you want to wrap up Jefferson forever, but like there's

1350
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: a very hard cap on what Cousins is and the

1351
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: best of him is probably in the rear view, So

1352
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: like what exactly are you trying to build there? I

1353
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: think that's right. That's why they're an interesting team because

1354
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: I think he's got some big, big decisions to make.

1355
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: So girl quick thought, I agree. I like that team.

1356
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 4: I was trying to look for a team that I

1357
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 4: would put up above them, like I think probably I

1358
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 4: think I might like Denver's roster a little bit better

1359
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 4: than they're down to twenty, and the Saints roster might

1360
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 4: be a little bit better than theirs, and they're down

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 4: at nineteen. It's now we're getting into where teams have

1362
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 4: real holes, and there you can get to a certain

1363
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 4: point where you're like, WHOA, these teams, these rosters aren't

1364
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 4: that great. But the Vikings are going to be able

1365
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 4: to score. Can they stop anybody? That's the question.

1366
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 5: They're gonna score thirty seconds here and then we got

1367
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 5: to head out Zigura. The Rams at number thirty one

1368
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 5: higher or just right, I think lower is Arizona and

1369
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 5: they're not.

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01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 4: I think they've got to be better than that, just

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 4: on the strength of Stafford Cup and Aaron Donald alone,

1372
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 4: and that's that's it. I mean, Houston's roster I think

1373
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 4: has many more holes than the Rams. Even though the

1374
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 4: Rams rosters are good and they have nobody, there is

1375
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 4: nobody on the Houston Texans roster that you would draft

1376
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 4: ahead of Stafford, Aaron Donald, and Cooper Cup if you

1377
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 4: were just disbanding these rosters.

1378
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: So there you go. And that's higher or lower for

1379
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: a Tuesday.

1380
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can how hard it would

1381
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: be to trade any of those guys. But if ever

1382
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: there was a team ripe for the tank, it would

1383
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: be that one. Yeah, and keep Caleb Williams in Southern

1384
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: California and bail on those guys yep, that they are

1385
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: ripe for it, and The thing is is the people

1386
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: they're trading, they would get a lot back for Oh

1387
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: they're dudes, Like you'd get a lot for Donald, Stafford

1388
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: and Cup Like that's yeah if you want to build

1389
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: that thing in a second.

1390
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 3: But yes, certainly with Donald as a rental to somebody.

1391
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Stafford he's healthy. Yep. Geez alright, ap, good

1392
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 2: stuff out of you.

1393
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 9: Appreciate it, guys. Hopefully back in the undisclosed location in

1394
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 9: the near future, I hope.

1395
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just don't be so greedy asking about it.

1396
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 10: You know.

1397
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: I always tell my kids, you know, when they act like,

1398
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: don't don't expect things. Just be surprised when it happens,

1399
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: and appreciative, right, I mean, that's what I got invited

1400
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 2: there this week.

1401
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 3: I did invite him, Clearly, I got over ruled.

1402
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. You're right there, you're right there.

1403
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: Just play your cards, right, you're right there. We love you,

1404
01:08:58,880 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: We love as.

1405
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 3: We'll get some golf in this week. Good jem, good job.

1406
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 10: All right.

1407
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: So we've this is pretty interring. Kyle Brand had a

1408
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: fun conversation on his show. We've got NBA Conference Finals

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Speaker 2: numbers now on Lakers Warriors. Almost eight million was the

1420
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: number on that. The uh actually the Sixers Celtics did

1421
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 2: around eight in their in their game seven, the Lakers

1422
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: averaged a seven point nine or something like that.

1423
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 5: The NBA needs a Lakers Celtics final. They have a

1424
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 5: really good playoff run, they great numbers, and it's kind

1425
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 5: of brought their their game back a little bit from

1426
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 5: a ratings standpoint. But boy, that that would be the

1427
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 5: the cherry on top.

1428
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 2: It feels like they're getting Celtics. Yeah, adding the Lakers

1429
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 2: to it feels like the Heat have done like all

1430
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: that they can do. Adding the Lakers to it. Plus

1431
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: the fact of like the added layer of Lebron trying

1432
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: to cement a Lakers legacy and then doing so by

1433
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: beating the Celtics. I mean, if he's I mean, that's

1434
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: a totally different level to beat the Celtics as a

1435
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 2: Laker and to win two titles in l a go

1436
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: to five overall special twentieth.

1437
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: Year, knowing the history that he's had with Boston.

1438
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's ripe for it. We got a chance,

1439
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: by the way, we have Wemben Yama tonight too.

1440
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 3: We did the sweepstakes.

1441
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 4: It's funny that you say his history of Boston, but

1442
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: his sister is Boston's with like Paul Pearson KG. That's

1443
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 4: how long he's been in it and like to beat

1444
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 4: that's what's so crazy.

1445
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen years ago. Yeah, it's wild now, like it

1446
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: all feels like yesterday to us, you know, but it

1447
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 2: was you know ray Allen. You think about Ray Allen

1448
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: hitting that shot for the heat against the Spurs. That

1449
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: was what like twenty eleven, A long time something like that.

1450
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, twenty twelve.

1451
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 4: Speaking up, I watched that shot happen at the Greenbrier.

1452
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 3: I was at the Green.

1453
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: Did you really game? Yeah, probably the closest a team

1454
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: has ever come to winning a championship to not like

1455
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: Remember they had their the Spur, yes, Spurs of the

1456
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: ropes up. Now they won it the next year. They

1457
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: beat the Heat the next year, but they had the

1458
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 2: ropes up. Like it was done.

1459
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: Manu missed a free throw too, right.

1460
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 5: To Manu never misses free Nster free throw Yeah yeah, yeah,

1461
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 5: And everything was fine till the last minute of that game.

1462
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was done. It was done. Remember this, the

1463
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: Heat fans left, they were outside the building. They left,

1464
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: and they were trying to get back in for overtime,

1465
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: but they already left. Crazy and one of the greatest

1466
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: clutch shots ever for Ray Allen, by the way, in

1467
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 2: the history of the league, to get his toes behind

1468
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: the line.

1469
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 3: Crazy yeah, insane, crazy.

1470
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 4: So the go ahead, I say, Spurs took all the

1471
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 4: big guys off the floor. Yeah, they get the defensive rebound.

1472
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah that was yeah, I remember that was brutal. So

1473
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 4: you are you okay give a. You're the biggest Lebron hater.

1474
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 4: I know you. You don't want him to win. Of

1475
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:43,879
Speaker 4: the teams that are left.

1476
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: Man, you know that the Celtics twin and Lebron.

1477
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: I like Tatum saying, but.

1478
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 5: You hate Lebron because because because I I really I

1479
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 5: was next to the Cavaliers. The Lakers were my team. Yeah,

1480
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 5: like I I I was a Kareem is one of

1481
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 5: my favorite players of all time. Magic one of my

1482
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 5: favorite players. Like that's tough, but like the Lakers, I

1483
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 5: was not big fan of Lakers with Shaq and Kobe.

1484
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 5: Shack just annoyed me because he couldn't make a free

1485
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 5: throw and it just drove me bonkers. I couldn't get

1486
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 5: my head around that. So you're Joker. You'll root for

1487
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 5: Joker in this one. But if if Lebron gets through it,

1488
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 5: I might.

1489
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 3: Root for the I might root for the heat here

1490
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: the god they took him it is that I will say.

1491
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 3: It is amazing. It is amazing what Eric Spolstra has

1492
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: done there.

1493
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 2: They're the closest thing to like they're basically the Steelers

1494
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: of the NBA the last twenty years. Like they really

1495
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: don't have any downs. No, they just kind of win

1496
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: no matter what. Like they were a ten seed. Okay, yeah,

1497
01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: they had to they had to win and win and

1498
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 2: win just to get in and then they've done all

1499
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: of this, you know. So Kyle Brandt was was this

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01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: on his podcast, The Kyle's Basement Thing? Yes, ye, okay.

1501
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: So he's great. Anytime that Simmons calls him up to

1502
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: a rewatchable to do an eighties action movie, I'm in

1503
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: like it's undefeated when they get together. So he was,

1504
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: he's talking movies, and he was talking about the movie

1505
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: he saw way too early, and his answer to it

1506
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 2: was Temple of Doom. So did you know that Temple

1507
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 2: of Doom is the reason that we have Pg.

1508
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: Thirteen because of the scene that he references. Yes, so

1509
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 3: Temple movie in the theater with my dad I was five.

1510
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, we all did. Because we also had seen

1511
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: Raiders of the Lost Arc. We could not wait to

1512
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: see Temple of Doom. It's a prequel, not a sequel,

1513
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: which is another thing that is a little kid, you

1514
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: couldn't wrap your head around that it was that it

1515
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: was actually before the events of the first one. But

1516
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: he looks a little older, right, so you couldn't wrap

1517
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 2: your head around that it was later. It just didn't

1518
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 2: make any sense. And then you got Khali. So there

1519
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 2: was such an uproar over this that This is why

1520
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: Spielberg took heat for it. He suggested that the Motion

1521
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: Picture Arts of America come up with a new rating,

1522
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 2: and two months later they came up with PG thirteen.

1523
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: This is why this movie.

1524
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 3: It's a rough scene. Baby, that's a that's a traumatic scene.

1525
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: There's a lot going It's not just that scene either,

1526
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: Like The Little Kids.

1527
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a lot going on in that movie.

1528
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 3: We watched that not too long ago.

1529
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: The First Kid.

1530
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 3: Hour is awesome.

1531
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still fun, like it's the boys have seen it.

1532
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: It's fun.

1533
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: It's great.

1534
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: I just fast forward through Khali. It's fun though.

1535
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:50,839
Speaker 3: Probably good decision.

1536
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need to see that. What is the

1537
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: What is the movie that you saw too early? Is

1538
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: there one that jumps up?

1539
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 4: So there are two things that happened in my childhood

1540
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 4: that I remember as being things that were too early

1541
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 4: for me to be exposed to. The first was the

1542
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 4: movie Poltergeist, and I was like freaked out. Yeah, and

1543
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 4: I'm in my I'm pretty sure I saw it. Both

1544
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 4: of these things I think happened with a babysitter. I'm

1545
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: pretty sure I saw Poultergeist because the neighbor who was

1546
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 4: babysitting me. Her and a couple of her friends. She

1547
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 4: had course over and they wanted to watch Poultergeist, and like,

1548
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 4: I freaked. It was I had nightmares for days Like

1549
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: that was terrifying, and I was not that old. And

1550
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 4: then the other thing is one time I was getting

1551
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 4: babysat at her house and she had a bunch of

1552
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: friends over and they pulled out a wigi board and.

1553
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 3: Kind of people were watching you and the wigi board.

1554
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 4: All I remember is it was our next door neighbors girl,

1555
01:16:53,560 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 4: Nicole was her name. Anyway, her father once fell off

1556
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 4: of the people movers in the parking lot at Disney

1557
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 4: and like broke his back and got like sued them

1558
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 4: for all this money. And then it has like he

1559
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 4: had one of like the greatest Nutcracker and then Disney

1560
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 4: figuring collections.

1561
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 3: I think in the world as a result of that. Anyway,

1562
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 3: neither here nor there.

1563
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 4: But so I'm over there and they turn off all

1564
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 4: the light that's what you want, that's and they turn

1565
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 4: file lights and we had like they had candle lights out,

1566
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 4: and they did the ouigi board and they were like

1567
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 4: how many you know spirits are here or whatever, and

1568
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 4: it was the exact number of people including me in

1569
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 4: the house, and then like they a couple of them

1570
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: started freaking out. So then I was like freaked out.

1571
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 4: It was awful and I just wanted to like run

1572
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 4: out of the house and run back to my house

1573
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 4: because it was next door, like they were letting me.

1574
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 3: Just go run into the night. It was awful, terrifying

1575
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 3: board night.

1576
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 4: I want no part of AIGI board ever ever, and

1577
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 4: I want and thank goodness they don't have snowy TVs anymore,

1578
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 4: Like our kids would never even know what that's like

1579
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 4: to have a snowy TV where it can just come

1580
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 4: and get you.

1581
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't a movie for me. I have two

1582
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: that jumped to mine. Two experiences. One, there was a

1583
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 2: television series when I was a kid called V, which

1584
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 2: was a mini series. It was on network television where

1585
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: aliens in the form of humans came to Earth and

1586
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: they were like a reptile, like a carnivorous reptile humanoid

1587
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: with like human skin that could get peeled off and

1588
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: it was green underneath. So I remember that vividly seeing

1589
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: that way too young, and yeah, that was terrifying. Google

1590
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: V the original mini series. This is probably like eighty four,

1591
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 2: eighty five, something like that, and then the other thing

1592
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: that I remember, but it was the other end of it.

1593
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't too tough for me, but my little brother.

1594
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 2: My little brother's seven years younger, and I convinced my

1595
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: parents to let me take him two Batman Returns. And

1596
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: we were coming off of Batman with and Nicholas, and

1597
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you get there Nicholson rather and

1598
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you get like Batman Returns.

1599
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: Was dark Man, the Penguin.

1600
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 10: All of that.

1601
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: He was too damn young. I remember he cried and

1602
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 2: cried and cried.

1603
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: That's yeah, Yeah, that Penguin was very dark.

1604
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 4: I think the other movie I'm pretty sure that my

1605
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 4: dad made me watch when I was young. That freaked

1606
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 4: me out because it is kind of it's such a

1607
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 4: dark movie and it's such a psychological thriller.

1608
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,879
Speaker 3: Was Alien the original?

1609
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, my little brother was eight for Batman Returns.

1610
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 2: Oh Man or seven? Like that's that was too much.

1611
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: I felt terrible.

1612
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 3: I have no idea how old I was when I

1613
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:41,879
Speaker 3: saw Alien, because it came out in seventy nine.

1614
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: Because you saw it on VHS. Probably Gibbe do you

1615
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: have one.

1616
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if I do, I'll be honest with you.

1617
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 5: My my parents locked it down. Yeah, like it was

1618
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 5: if there was questionable material on TV, like they watch it.

1619
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 3: I was in bed. I'm trying to think.

1620
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure I saw something at a friend's

1621
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 5: house that I had no business watching. I cannot remember.

1622
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 5: But I never saw anything in the presence of my parents.

1623
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, never.

1624
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 5: Like I didn't go to the theater with like Kyle,

1625
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 5: I didn't go to the theater with my dad to

1626
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 5: watch you know, Temple of Doom.

1627
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 3: I don't.

1628
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't you Also, in those days, though you had

1629
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: no idea that Temple of Doom was going to go

1630
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: that way. There wasn't all this big word of mouth.

1631
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: The only way that he would have known what it

1632
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: was about was in your local newspaper if you watched

1633
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 2: Siskel and Ebert. There was no way of knowing it

1634
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: was dark. The same thing the truth, like Batman returns.

1635
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 2: All I knew is that it had a penguin, and

1636
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 2: I thought, well, my little brother likes Batman, will be fine.

1637
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: Like I didn't realize the ping was gonna be eating fish,

1638
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: And I mean Christopher Watkins in that one. You're locked

1639
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: on there.

1640
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 3: I don't want that.

1641
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, even catwoman like Michelle Pfeiffer bringing it throwing like

1642
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 2: ninety eight miles an hour. But wow, it's a lot

1643
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: in that one, all right. Dtr Our new quarterback will

1644
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,840
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Speaker 2: let's head to the podium. New quarterback Dorian Thompson Robinson,

1655
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: what's the readingion been like with said.

1656
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 11: It's been super cool ever since we both got the call.

1657
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 11: He obviously had to come down here and do his stuff,

1658
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 11: but he got his call first and then I saw

1659
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 11: him when he got back to town. But we've been

1660
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 11: throwing every day trying to break down this playbook and

1661
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 11: learn it as best we can together and really just

1662
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 11: going through this whole process together.

1663
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 3: So it spip fun.

1664
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: Does that help that?

1665
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 7: I mean, you guys are kind of doing this, you know,

1666
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 7: you guys go back so long that you guys are

1667
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 7: kind of.

1668
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: Making this transition together. Does that help in picking up

1669
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 2: the playbook?

1670
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, there is.

1671
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 11: I was praying that I was gonna have some familiarity

1672
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 11: and whatever organization I was going to, and luckily I'm

1673
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 11: at an organization where I have a bunch of familiarity

1674
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 11: and a bunch of familiar faces. So I think it'll

1675
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 11: help out a bunch. I know a ton of guys

1676
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 11: on this team already, whether I've played against him or

1677
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 11: know them from previous years in football, So I think

1678
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 11: it's gonna help my transition out a lot.

1679
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 3: For sure.

1680
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 12: What was it like when you opened that playbook for

1681
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 12: the first time and started leafing through it.

1682
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 11: I was actually a very surprised. It's very similar to

1683
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 11: coach Kelly's offense at UCLA, and not even just the

1684
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 11: concepts and everything, but just the way they call things

1685
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 11: and the way they operate and everything. So they do

1686
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 11: a great job. They're very good teachers here and that's

1687
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 11: the one thing I've noticed right away and have really

1688
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 11: taken on. And so I'm just trying to use them

1689
01:22:58,320 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 11: as best I can and use them as a resource.

1690
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 10: Sure, just to clarify, did you call players in the

1691
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 10: huvel that you.

1692
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 11: See like maybe a few times? Yeah, we were a

1693
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 11: signal based team.

1694
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 10: Though with with picture I mean, not cards or.

1695
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: What we do hand signals.

1696
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 13: Yes, sir, it's gonna be like for you you're with

1697
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 13: a man, yeah, and you see and all that and

1698
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 13: and now.

1699
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 10: You're gonna be.

1700
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 3: The depth chart and probably not play a lot.

1701
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 10: So what's that gonna be.

1702
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 11: Like for you? I think it'll be a huge learning

1703
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 11: curve for me and something that I can take advantage of.

1704
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 3: For sure.

1705
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 11: You see all the time rookies going and I think

1706
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 11: everybody starts out as a kind of a developmental project

1707
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 11: going in there starting as a rookie. So for me

1708
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 11: to be able to learn from a guy like de Sean,

1709
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 11: Josh Kellen, all those guys in that room as well

1710
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 11: as the coaching staff, I think it's gonna be huge

1711
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 11: for my developmental process in my future. Right now, like

1712
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 11: I said, I'm trying to win for for this team.

1713
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 11: I'm not worried about me and what I have going on.

1714
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 11: So whatever I can do to help team out, I will.

1715
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 10: Who are some of the other players that you know

1716
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 10: pretty well on this team.

1717
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 11: And how do you know him so well? Yeah, well

1718
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 11: similar to Cedric Bubba Bolden who's on this team. Now,

1719
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 11: we were all high school teammates together, so we go

1720
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 11: way back. I played against guys like Mike Harley, he

1721
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 11: was at Saint Thomas Quinas and things like that, and

1722
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 11: then obviously DeShawn He's come out a bunch at UCLA,

1723
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 11: and so I've been able to spend some time with

1724
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 11: him and work with him on a more personal level.

1725
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 3: So felt, oh you.

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Speaker 11: Almost maybe forget I'm I apologize if you're watching this

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Speaker 11: spelt yes, my dear friend. I was actually talked to

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01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 11: him last night. He called me as soon as I

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Speaker 11: got in and everything. So I'm super happy to be

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Speaker 11: joined back up my running back for sure.

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Speaker 13: During prior to the draft, I don't know how much

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01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 13: you know you've read, but obviously mock drafts are out there.

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Speaker 10: You're a guy that always just.

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01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 13: Seemed to find the Browns. All these different people had

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01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 13: you as a pick for the Browns. Did you get

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01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 13: that vibe and then feel if this was a place

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Speaker 13: that really made a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of sense.

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Speaker 11: I did, but it was kind of one of more

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Speaker 11: so those teams that was kind of in the back

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Speaker 11: of my mind. Obviously I had the Top thirty visit

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Speaker 11: here and that was my first one, so I knew

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Speaker 11: that there was a big interest here as well as

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Speaker 11: talking with my agents, but just hearing from a few

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01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 11: other teams a lot more consistently, I think my mind

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Speaker 11: was kind of somewhere else until I got the call,

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Speaker 11: But I for sure knew that the Browns were always

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Speaker 11: on my list.

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Speaker 10: First meeting with and once you guys got in the

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01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 10: field together, how much did that grow your game?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 11: It was actually a just right place right time. He

1753
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 11: was working out with this train of Quincy Avery as

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01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 11: well as Dwayne Haskins on the on the practice field

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01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 11: at UCLA. Me being the nosy kid wanting to get

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01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 11: some work in, I kind of asked them and they

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01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 11: were gracious enough to let me on the field with them,

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01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 11: and I learned a lot, just more so just how

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01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 11: he moves and operates and really takes over the position

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01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 11: from a technical standpoint, And that's one thing that you know,

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Speaker 11: me and a VP and and the rest of the

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01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 11: quarterbacks are working on when we come out here, and

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Speaker 11: a lot of things I'll be working on this weekend.

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01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 11: It's just footwork wise, and so I think that's probably

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01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 11: the biggest thing I took from DeShawn is how well

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01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 11: his feed are and how clean he is there.

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Speaker 3: What's that shoot?

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Speaker 11: You probably have to check my YouTube page to find

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01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 11: that day, but it was probably like somewhere in twenty nineteen,

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01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 11: twenty twenty.

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01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 10: And why did you decide to use your fifth year?

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01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 11: I used it as a I took it as more

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01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 11: of a strategical standpoint to really get better more so

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01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 11: off the field. Obviously, I've been in that system for

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01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 11: going on five years going into that year, So the

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01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 11: football side of it, I knew was gonna be taken

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01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 11: care of, and I had already put in work and

1778
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 11: everything like that to make sure that the things on

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01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 11: the field were gonna go okay. I know, once you

1780
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 11: get into rookie mini camps and all that different stuff

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01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 11: that you're gonna have to start focusing on where you're

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01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 11: gonna live, how to pay taxes and doing all this

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01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 11: other stuff. So for me to be able to move

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01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 11: off campus my last year in college, learn how to

1785
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 11: pay my own bills, learn how to pay my own

1786
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 11: phone bill, and everything like that. I think it's really

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01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 11: helped me off the field. Now I can just focus

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01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 11: on football once I get here. And that's about it.

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01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 3: So I did. I did. So.

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Speaker 11: I ended up pushing my major a lot later towards

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01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 11: my endited career since I knew I was gonna stay.

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Speaker 11: So I ended up freeing up my schedule a lot

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01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 11: so I could spend more time in the classroom in

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01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 11: the football field and not spending a bunch of time

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01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:05,759
Speaker 11: in the classroom.

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Speaker 3: Get my degree.

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01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 10: So, well, did you have your degree then?

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01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 3: Or I do? I do?

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Speaker 11: I have my degree in African American Studies. I just

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01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 11: graduated this past December. To do with that, well, shoot,

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01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 11: hopefully I'm using it right now to play football, but no,

1802
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 11: I plan on going into the entrepreneurship side of things.

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01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 3: I'm using my connections that way. So did you know

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01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: that he was going to be an NFL guy when

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01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 3: you guys were together.

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01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 11: Uh, he's probably gonna hate me for this story, but

1807
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 11: not at all.

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01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 3: Actually I started.

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01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 11: Over him in high school as X receiver, So Cedric

1810
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 11: we would say it was a little bit of a

1811
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 11: late bloomer, but he once he got to Tennessee, he

1812
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 11: took off from a gross bert to the speed to

1813
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 11: just everything you can ask for as a receiver. And

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01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 11: you guys have obviously seen what he is now and

1815
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 11: he's gotten picked because of it. But starting out though,

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01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 11: I definitely thought I was better than him receiver.

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01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 3: You can have the size that now he uses so well,

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01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 3: theres advantage. Oh yeah, no, not at all, not at all.

1819
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,480
Speaker 10: Did it take a point like you moving to quarterback

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01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 10: for him to get in the lineup?

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01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 3: Pretty much.

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01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 10: Who like to be the quarterback on UCLA's.

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01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 11: Campus, I'd say it's just about the same as anywhere else. Obviously,

1825
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 11: you're you're winning, you're doing good, everybody loves you, and

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01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 11: everybody wants you to be around. But when those things

1827
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 11: don't go as well, then things kind of change and flip. So, uh,

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 11: it's the same as it is pretty much everywhere else

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01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 11: in college for the most part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 10: I said, you've been in the world.

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Speaker 11: Right right as well as I mean I've I've been

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01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 11: there for five years, so a familiar face. It's been

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01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 11: walking around there for a long time.

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01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 12: So what do you think will be the biggest challenge

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01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 12: Now that you're in the building, you got the playbook,

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01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 12: you're meeting with coaches, learning your new teammates. Just what

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01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,839
Speaker 12: do you think is going to be the biggest challenge

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 12: for you as as a young player coming in here.

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01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think just taking advantage of my reps. Obviously

1841
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 11: I'm at the bottom of the depth chart now, so

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01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 11: for me to, you know, take advantage of the reps,

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01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 11: I do get the one or two reps a day

1844
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 11: or practice or whatever. Obviously Ricky Minniicamp, I get all

1845
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 11: the reps. So for me to be able to get

1846
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 11: comfortable with the offense before Deshaun and the rest of

1847
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 11: the Vets get here, I think would be huge for me.

1848
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 11: But going into training camp and preseason, I think just

1849
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 11: making sure that I'm as comfortable as possible and really

1850
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 11: trying to think like the coaching staff in there.

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01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 2: So two things. He's really good. He's really likable, So

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01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 2: that's one, and then the second thing, he's gonna make

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01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 2: preseason fun for me.

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01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and for me too. I mean it's funny.

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01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 4: I'm actually excited about the fact that We're going to

1856
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 4: have that extra preseason game because I'm excited to watch

1857
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 4: him play and him and Tilman play, and I think

1858
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 4: that will be a lot of fun. And you know,

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01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 4: my guess is, you know we've talked so much about

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01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 4: the third running back spot. You know, maybe they're saying

1861
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 4: Dimitrix Felton in year three, maybe you can be that

1862
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 4: pass catching running back. And I think we'll get to

1863
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 4: see him in the backfield with DTR, which they did

1864
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 4: to the other at UCLA when Demetric was so effective.

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Speaker 3: So let's see how that all plays out there.

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Speaker 4: I think there are some fun things to watch in

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01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,759
Speaker 4: pre in the preseason this year, and I think DTR

1868
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 4: is going to be at the top of.

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Speaker 2: The list for me, absolutely absolutely, so much more to come.

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Speaker 2: You'll listen to Cleveland eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: I think Denver's favored by six tonight. I thought I

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01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 2: saw over over the Lakers. I think it'll be one

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01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: of those ones where they Lebron knows he's got to

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01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 2: win one of the first two. Yep, So he'll either

1877
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,600
Speaker 2: it'll either be tonight that they'll go all in, or

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01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 2: it'll be the next one's probably on Thursday or Friday.

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01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: One of them, one of them is going to get

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01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,560
Speaker 2: a great game. That seems to be what happens with

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01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 2: these NBA playoffs in the in the first two.

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01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 3: Well and the other.

1883
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 4: The Lakers are seven to oh all time in playoff

1884
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 4: series against the Nuggets. They never lost the playoff.

1885
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Series to the Night never lost.

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01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 3: Are we gonna get any better times in this one?

1887
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 3: Or is it gonna be same as the Warriors?

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01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 12: Now?

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01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 2: No, it's eight thirty. It's it's ok, you can watch it.

1890
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: It's not ten. It's eight thirty tonight. The webbin Yama

1891
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 2: things at eight and then it's at eight thirty. So yeah,

1892
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 2: it's doable. These two teams haven't played since January ninth,

1893
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: let's go, so they've not played it in This carnation

1894
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: of the Lakers should be a fun one. The next

1895
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Speaker 2: level is coming up next. A you Listenbady Cleveland Ons

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