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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Plenty to get to for us today, including

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Speaker 2: announcements about training camp. Yes, the schedule comes out on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: two days later. We're talking training camp. Holy cow, is

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Speaker 2: this gonna happen fast?

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Speaker 1: The NFL is a steamroller, people, an absolute steam We

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Speaker 1: are a wagon and we are coming down the tracks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the metaphor is. Give me something

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Speaker 1: you were trying? Yeah, that was good. Steamroll is a good.

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Speaker 2: One steamroller train. You had both of them there, that's.

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Speaker 1: Okay, super Bowl Free agency combine draft schedules, OTA's then schedule,

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Speaker 1: Yeah we got.

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Speaker 2: We got OTA's Monday. They'll be starting up on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Seriously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll be able to kind of watch the

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Speaker 2: new group. Oh, we actually get we're allowed on day

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Speaker 2: as a viewing day. To my knowledge, Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 2: that I have.

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Speaker 1: Been shushed off the practice. I haven't eve been out

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Speaker 1: there looking because you know, quite frankly, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't like watching practice. We didn't get shoot off shushed

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Speaker 1: off the practice field. So because I haven't been out

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Speaker 1: there trying to watch, that's yeah. I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: around watching these guys practice.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm.

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Speaker 2: It's a little different at training camp though.

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Speaker 1: There's more to be there's more a little competition at

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Speaker 1: training camp, that's correct, there's more information to be harvested. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and right now you can just watch them like like this,

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Speaker 1: this cute little buddy friendship from all the guys and

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Speaker 1: all camaraderie and stuff. They're playing tug Award and that

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Speaker 2: Well, no, they'll be they'll be doing stuff on the

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Speaker 2: field next week, right, that's next week.

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Speaker 1: That's different. They might come out and actually resemble fightball.

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Speaker 1: There might be a football out there. Actually, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: so that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: So to get to the training camp details. Training camp

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Speaker 2: back at Saint John Fisher in Pittsford. Report day is

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Speaker 2: July twenty third. First practice on the field July twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: Also announced was the return of the Blue and Red

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Speaker 2: Game on August second at high Mark Stadium. Buffalo's first

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Speaker 2: preseason game, as we know, is at home against the

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Speaker 2: Bears on August tenth at one pm, which I hadn't

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Speaker 2: really given much thought to Steve, but you see Caleb

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of cool. First first time on

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Speaker 1: the field here, Who cares, I'm gonna have dinner with

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Speaker 1: mar if he's if you'll you know, well it's here,

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Speaker 1: some of the Bears are coming here. Yeah, ah, man,

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shoot be here in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, I probably have to miss Marv. Then

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't anticipate that.

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds. And that's interesting jmore because it's become a

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: We play those guys now every year.

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Speaker 2: We've played them pretty regularly four.

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Speaker 1: Years in a row. Now, Yeah, it's under McDermott era.

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Speaker 1: And why why is that? Is there a connection there?

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Speaker 2: I know that sometimes they like to pair up teams

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Speaker 2: That's why we had Detroit so many years.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you're preparing for that opponent because

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Speaker 2: if possible schedule a team out of conference that you're

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Speaker 2: maybe another one is an in conference team that's close

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Speaker 2: by that you're not going to play. For example, Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: that's the team that is in the conference that they're

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Speaker 2: not going to see this year in the regular season anyway.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's kind of how they make their choices,

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Speaker 2: you know. I know Indy was a popular one once

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Speaker 1: I was I was laughing that one of those Dan

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Speaker 1: Levittard made the point of the AFC East and he said,

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Speaker 1: you know there are four teams in the AFC East.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think the Jets rank in the number

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Speaker 1: the Colts used to be in the East and there

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Speaker 2: And they have more division titles than the Jets even

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Speaker 2: though they haven't been in the division in twenty three years.

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Speaker 2: That's tough.

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Speaker 1: That's that's yeah, that's rough.

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Speaker 2: Third preseason game for the Bills is home against the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: So and both of those home preseason games they're both

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's nice.

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Speaker 2: I kind of like Saturdays too, right, all three of

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Speaker 2: those games they're all on Saturdays. The one in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: training camp back at Fisher. Early report date by a

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Speaker 1: It's not a full week though, right. I mean they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And part of it's because you have an early

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Speaker 2: labor day this year, right, So your first game is

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Speaker 2: like September eighth, that's because Labor Day is September first

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Speaker 2: backs everything up earlier too, So those are the main

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Speaker 2: reasons for that. Let's go around the NFL, though, because

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Speaker 2: there is some AFC East news to get to and

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Speaker 2: around the NFL, presented by KLIDA Healthy, official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. Cbssports dot com insider Jonathan Jones

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Speaker 2: Steve is reporting that with the Miami Dolphins beginning OTAs

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Speaker 2: on Monday, it's unclear whether the starting quarterback to a

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Speaker 2: tongua Ilo will be part of them. Tago Iolo has

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Speaker 2: been absent for the large majority of voluntary off season

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Speaker 2: work since the Dolphins reported back April fifteenth, so he

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Speaker 2: hasn't really been there for the offseason strength and conditioning program.

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Speaker 2: Sources close to the situation told CBS Sports that is

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Speaker 2: in stark contrast to his first four seasons in the league,

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Speaker 2: They believe this is related to his contract status to

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Speaker 2: the fifth overall selection of the twenty twenty draft, currently

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Speaker 2: set to play the twenty four season on his fifty

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Speaker 2: year option to the tune of twenty three point one million.

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Speaker 2: He hoped for a long term contract extension with the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins but one has obviously not yet materialized. Here was

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Speaker 2: Dolphins GM Chris Greer back in January. He said the following,

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Speaker 2: Like we said, we wouldn't talk throughout the season in

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Speaker 2: terms of contract stuff, but we've stayed in touch with

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Speaker 2: his agent, had good conversations throughout the year. We never

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Speaker 2: talk about money or anything, just good conversations about where

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Speaker 2: he is in the relationship with Mike McDaniel and the

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Speaker 2: That's always the goal. And we'll continue to communicate with

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Speaker 2: him through the offseason here. All I know is the

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Speaker 2: longer they wait, the higher the price gets. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff just signed for fifty three million a season,

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Speaker 2: and you bet your bottom dollar that to his agent

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Speaker 2: is going to say, my guy's better than that guy

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Speaker 2: on paper. Don't you have to look on the field.

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Speaker 2: Just look on paper, he's better than that guy. He's

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Speaker 1: Yeah at Miami can yeah, twa can say whatever he wants,

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Speaker 1: But the Dolphins are the ones that are gonna make

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, if Tua thins he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get that on the open market. Good luck, Well, you don't.

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Speaker 1: There's no other team in the league that would pay

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Speaker 1: to a Tongo I lower a Jared Goff contract. There's

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Speaker 2: So you're arguing he's more valuable to the Dolphins than

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Speaker 1: That's right, Not because he's playing that great, but because

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Speaker 1: it's a huge process to find anybody that can take

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Speaker 1: play as good as Tua has played, it's we've been

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Speaker 1: we live through it, Brownie. You're it's purgatory, yeah, during right,

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Speaker 1: So Tua is a little bit better, he's well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not as good as Kirk Cousins. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: he's not. Let's let's look at this. Tua has got

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about you know, Tyreek Waddle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, they've got got they've got some They've got

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Speaker 1: So I mean, come on, I'm Miami's in a tough

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Speaker 1: Instead of getting Justin Herbert, it was tanked for Tua.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got even Brian Flores who said the

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Speaker 1: owner had his sights set on Tua two years before

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Speaker 1: the draft or a year before the draft and wanted

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Speaker 1: incentivized making sure they had a chance to get him.

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Speaker 1: Turns out the reason they had a chance to get

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Speaker 1: him because nobody wanted the guy. He's fifth overall, not

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Speaker 1: first overall. So i'm the Dolphins. If i'm I do

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Speaker 1: not pay that guy. That's Daniel Jones waiting to happen. Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting you mentioned Daniel Jones because I gotta

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Speaker 2: believe the Dolphins are like, well, we'll pay you forty

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Speaker 1: And I think his.

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Speaker 1: Of a four year that's at least fifty million bucks

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Speaker 1: Would you could well forty millions forty million insulting? It's

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Speaker 2: Tell what I'm saying. If I'm two of them have

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Speaker 2: Guy you can't start over in September.

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Speaker 1: just even I mean the Miami Dolphins schedule, go down

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Speaker 2: At the same time, the production is the production, and

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Speaker 2: A lot, then what has a problem. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: Apparently not too many, because they're not dead set on

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Speaker 2: But everybody looks like a dwarf when Josh is out

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Speaker 1: The same with Will Levis's that kind of guy too.

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Speaker 1: Think about when two I mean Tua couldn't get fits

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm I'm no bigger fan of two than you are.

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Speaker 2: But I think he's got the Dolphins between a rock

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Speaker 2: There aren't too many detractors down there for right, wrong,

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Speaker 1: From I get it.

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Speaker 2: From my view here ten thousand miles away.

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Speaker 1: I get that because nobody wants to go into that

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Speaker 2: He's got them between a rock and a hard place

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Speaker 2: because the market value is into his favor. The dearth

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I would. He's gonna make fifty four million

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Speaker 1: I would kick him to the curb so fast and

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Speaker 2: Bring Tannehill back for a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, bring Tannehill buys rollit have to us sit out

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Speaker 2: If you remember, he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he never had Tyreek or Jalen Watall. He did not.

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Speaker 1: He did not. I mean, and he's got he's got

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Speaker 1: that's what I would do, and I it's me.

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Speaker 2: I think the Dolphins are gonna pay.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, totally, analytically speaking, you are better off taking

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Speaker 1: he's gonna look like Chad Pennington.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pennington had like three shoulder.

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Speaker 1: You really don't like him. I like the guy's a

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Speaker 1: great dude. He's a great dude. He comes from a

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Speaker 2: You can only go so far with him, is your point.

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Speaker 1: He's just not good enough.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: He's not a football player. He's not.

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Speaker 2: But he's the best option they have.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, that's what I'm saying. And bring Tannehill back.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, I don't know if you are better,

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Speaker 2: You're paying less money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's free.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't know if it's free. But you're paying less,

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Speaker 1: Considerably less, and you're not jailing your and you're not

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Speaker 2: It's a conundrum for them, it really is. And I

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Speaker 2: with two a quarterback, let's go, and then you pull

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Speaker 2: the plug to a holds out. He's not your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You trade him. The fan base is going to be

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Speaker 1: Think about it, though, I mean anybody with.

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Speaker 2: Because they're not paying the money.

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Speaker 1: Anybody with any bit of reason will look at that

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Speaker 1: They benefited from a poor schedule.

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Speaker 2: From our vantage point, that makes sense. I'm just giving

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Speaker 2: So he fits the scheme or the scheme fits him,

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Speaker 2: or a comparable option before. Now, so you know what

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Speaker 1: It's over.

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Speaker 2: This decision is already done. Otherwise, you're punting the twenty

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Speaker 2: They have to pay up.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Now, here's where we disagree. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you could definitively say that, I

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you who is not gonna get better?

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Speaker 2: No, No logic would say no, he's kind he kind

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Speaker 2: of is what he is.

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Speaker 1: If you you could, you could blatantly like you could

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Speaker 1: So then it's like more us and him, and I.

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Speaker 2: Think he will sit out if they don't pony up

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Speaker 2: this is probably his le this could be his last

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Speaker 1: He's already had that when he got Yeah, he had

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Speaker 1: got them to the playoffs. Uh, that was their off

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Speaker 1: season plan.

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Speaker 2: All right, We've talked enough about this. Let's move on

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Speaker 2: to the other AFC's news. ESPN's Mike Clay as a

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Speaker 2: story up on espn dot com titled why the Jets

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Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers will win the Super Bowl. He begins

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Speaker 2: this way, Steve, it has been a minute, but the

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Speaker 2: New York Jets are back, and by back, I mean legitimate.

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Speaker 2: It's Super Bowl contenders. And I know what you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: Here we go again, every year, same story, but it's different.

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Speaker 2: This time. I love different, this time, I love Mike Clay.

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Speaker 1: It's not different.

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Speaker 2: But here are the reasons he listed. Okay, to make

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Speaker 2: the Jets case number one an elite defense. Eight starters, returning. Okay,

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Speaker 2: no question, that's fair. They make life difficult for everybody.

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Speaker 2: You got to earn everything again against that Jets defense,

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Speaker 2: I'll give him that number two. Much improved supporting cast

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Speaker 2: on offense. Okay, So you have veteran tackles, so your

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Speaker 2: pass protection on the edges conceivably should be better.

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Speaker 1: Very veteran, very veteran.

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Speaker 2: You have a veteran receiver in Mike Williams that you

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Speaker 2: signed or traded for. I can't remember, but he's on

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Speaker 2: the Jets roster now he's coming off an ACL injury.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to see what he looks like. And then

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Speaker 2: you have Garrett and who was the other receiver they

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Speaker 2: signed I remember off the top of my head, but yes,

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Speaker 2: they've improved the weapon quotient on the offensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball. Then third formidable offensive line. That might be

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Speaker 2: a little strong, but I understand, you know, trading for

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Speaker 2: Morgan Moses, getting the guard John Simpson both from the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: and then Tyron Smith in free agency away from the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: They're a little long in the tooth, but they are

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Speaker 2: decidedly better on the offensive line. For Aaron Rodgers is back, fair,

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Speaker 2: what is he going to look like coming off Achille surgery.

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Speaker 2: I think that is a big question. Is he mobile?

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Speaker 2: Is he strictly a pocket guy? Now? What are we

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Speaker 2: looking at there? I will also submit to you this statistic, Steve,

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Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL, only eleven quarterbacks have

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Speaker 2: thrown over one hundred passes in a season in which

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Speaker 2: they turned forty older. The statistics even without injury, and

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Speaker 2: in the fact that he plays on a horrible turf

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Speaker 2: surface at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Anyway to finish this up. His fifth reason the state

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Speaker 2: of the AFC East. This one I found interesting. He

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Speaker 2: cites the turnover on the Buffalo and Miami rosters this

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Speaker 2: offseason and argues that the Jets have the most complete

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Speaker 2: roster with the most continuity. What do you think of

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Speaker 2: that opinion? That's a little valid Yeah, I think there's.

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Speaker 1: Some validity ability to Yeah, they have had less turnover

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Speaker 1: both Bills and Dolphins. The Dolphins churned it up a

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Speaker 1: little bit on the defensive side of the ball. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Bill's offense still going to be a wagon, but

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Speaker 1: the Jets have played extremely well against the Bills offense

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Speaker 1: their defense, Like he said, they have an elite defense.

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Speaker 1: That's true as well. And Aaron. The big key is

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Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers is out, there were ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: of the offensive snaps for the Jets. They're a tough out.

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Speaker 1: They're just a tough out because of their defense. Even

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Speaker 1: if Aaron does nothing but distribute and just kind of

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Speaker 1: hangs out there, and he's just he's gonna be way

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Speaker 1: better than what they had a year ago. And in

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Speaker 1: a lot of cases, that's all about all they needed.

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Speaker 1: And yes, the Jets are certainly sitting someplace where they

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Speaker 1: haven't sat for a long time, and that's in a

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Speaker 1: very optimistic and solid spot. Their roster is real. Like

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Speaker 1: I've said it before, I like their coaches, and I

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Speaker 1: get and I get the little bit it seemed to

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Speaker 1: me like he's writing this a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: hyperbole that the Jets are gonna win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are a good team. They're a good team.

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Speaker 1: Aaron's an enormous question mark.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree with that. His last reason light

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Speaker 2: strength of schedule. They are playing a third place schedule

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Speaker 2: after finishing seven to ten last year. And while their

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Speaker 2: opener is a bear because they're at San Francisco, on

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Speaker 2: Monday night for their first game of the season. They

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Speaker 2: are then at the Tennessee Titans home against New England,

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Speaker 2: home against Denver at Minnesota with a rookie quarterback. Two

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Speaker 2: games against rookie quarterbacks, perhaps three, you're gonna get Will Levis, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Drake may Bow Knicks potentially, and JJ McCarthy all in

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Speaker 2: succession before you play the Bills Steelers, and then the

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Speaker 2: Patriots again Houston, Arizona, Indianapolis, and then there by their

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Speaker 2: stretch runs kind of tough Seattle at home at Miami,

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Speaker 2: at Jacksonville, Rams, Buffalo, Miami.

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Speaker 1: I said it yesterday and I'll stick by it. When

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Speaker 1: the Bills play the Jets in Week six, they'll be

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Speaker 1: playing the number one rank defense in the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by virtue of the teams they're playing the first

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Speaker 2: five weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's right. It's just gonna be that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, three rookie quarterbacks and a second year quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Holy crow, right right, it's that's they're gonna the Bills

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Speaker 1: will be playing the number one defense in the NFL

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Speaker 1: on week six, October fourteenth.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we were being told last year at this

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Speaker 2: time that the Jets we're gonna win the division Bills

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Speaker 2: were gonna finish fourth.

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Speaker 1: One guy even.

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Speaker 2: Had It's just just come on with that, uh. OBL

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Speaker 2: Friday Fan Mailbag is open. Any question on your mind

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Speaker 2: fired off at us at ATO three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty the

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Speaker 2: numbers to get on board. Maybe you got a question

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Speaker 2: about the offseason roster, what we should expect in OTAs,

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Speaker 2: what we should expect at the back half of the

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Speaker 2: pecking order for the receiver room. Whatever's on your mind,

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Speaker 2: you let us know at ATO three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty. Those

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Speaker 2: are the numbers to get on board, and we do

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Speaker 2: have open lines for you, or you can hit us

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Speaker 2: up on the tweets sheet. At one Bills Live. We

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Speaker 2: take a break here. When we come back, the Bills

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Speaker 2: win total projections are out as well. We'll discuss those

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Speaker 2: and take your phone calls. Next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All

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Speaker 2: right back here on a Friday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. OBL Fan Friday Mailbag

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Speaker 2: is open eight three h five fifteen nobody get on

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Speaker 2: board with any question you might have about the Bills,

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00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: the league at large, the off season. What have you

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Speaker 2: lay it on us? And that's where we're going right now.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go to the phones and let me

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Speaker 2: make sure my cursor is working.

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Speaker 1: Yes it is.

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Speaker 2: We go to John in Buffalo to lead us off.

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Speaker 2: What's up John?

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Speaker 5: Ask good afternoon, Marvel logistic question, what a player not

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Speaker 5: under contract comes in, whether it's a veteran during the season,

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Speaker 5: off season, rookie for tryouts and last week when everybody

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Speaker 5: comes in free agents and rookies of fights. The Buffalo

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Speaker 5: and the Bills put them up in the hotels.

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Speaker 1: Do they feed them, yeah, the Bill, Yeah, it's all

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Speaker 1: paid for by the.

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Speaker 5: Club, and they have to sell these to feed fifty

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Speaker 5: people for lunch. They don't brown bag, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sure they do not brown but they know they have

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Speaker 1: an entire commissary here in the building.

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Speaker 5: But the veterans would have to pay for themselves to

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Speaker 5: come in un draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the players. Yeah, the players have to come in

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Speaker 1: for mini camps and stuff. They make They make their

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Speaker 1: own arrangements. But the but if the club wants to

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Speaker 1: interview somebody for a job free agent visit. They pay

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Speaker 1: for it. The club pays for it.

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Speaker 5: Right, I hope they. I hope they send a three

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Speaker 5: hundred and sixty pound lineman something other than an economy seed.

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Speaker 1: No, uh yeah, maybe probably not.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they want to upgrade, I suppose they

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Speaker 2: could pay out of their own pocket and upgrade. And

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Speaker 2: I know that the bills actually don't mind feeding the

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Speaker 2: players because then they know they're putting good stuff in them.

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Speaker 2: That's that's you know, you got nutritionist sons if you're

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Speaker 2: all too happy.

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Speaker 1: Most clubs do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they give your greater control of what you're putting

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Speaker 2: into your investments.

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Speaker 1: Well plus the they put you know, they don't want

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Speaker 1: these guys coming in then listen, I gotta bounce, I

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Speaker 1: gotta go get lunch, so, you know, leaving the building

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Speaker 1: and going over and take whatever. And they keep them

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Speaker 1: right here. It's more efficient. They get more out of

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Speaker 1: them during the day, and they put in a long day.

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Speaker 1: It's not like these guys come in for two hours

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Speaker 1: of practice and go.

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Speaker 2: Home and more bonding time with their teammates. Yes, they're

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Speaker 2: sitting down and eating with their teammates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so most clubs do exactly that. They have the

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Speaker 1: facilities and the staffing to formulate menus, put out meals.

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Speaker 1: They have guys that have specific diet needs, they have

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Speaker 1: to do all they do all of it. Yep, they

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Speaker 1: do all of it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Ryan and Albany next.

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Speaker 6: What's up Ryan, Good afternoon. I'll just if one of

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Speaker 6: the preseason games has been designated as Kids' Day. My

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Speaker 6: kids are dying to know. And I didn't get to

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Speaker 6: call on yesterday, but I really like our early Thursday

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Speaker 6: night game. But it gives us almost an extra, you know,

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Speaker 6: extra bye week and a long break till the Jaguars

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Speaker 6: game the following Monday night. And seebe you might be

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Speaker 6: up for Best Supporting Actor in Lena release video that

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Speaker 6: was We'll be looking at the award shows next year

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Speaker 6: for you to get a Night award.

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Speaker 1: Don't hold your breath, but thanks for the thank I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Kids Day has been officially determined yet.

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Speaker 2: I would just tell you to stay close to Buffalo

624
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Speaker 2: Bills dot com for more updates as they're provided. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's got to be either August

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Speaker 2: tenth or August twenty fourth. As we said earlier, both

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Speaker 2: are one o'clock games, so we'll just have to wait

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Speaker 2: and see which one it is. Right, that's kind of

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Speaker 2: where it's at. I don't believe that's been announced yet,

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Speaker 2: but I'll check during the one. I think we would

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Speaker 2: have heard about it though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: From one Ryan to another, we go to Ryan in Toronto.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Ryan, Chris Steam Happy Friday. I want to

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Speaker 4: correct the guys on something at the Chicago based First

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Speaker 4: Persons games actually against Houston the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you are one hundred right, Ryan. They

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Speaker 2: do play in the Hall of Fame game, so it

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Speaker 2: will not be Caleb Williams first game now that will

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Speaker 2: be a real.

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Speaker 4: Pro in Canada. Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 4: Secondly, I want to touch on the Sam Fan and

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Speaker 4: the Dead's game. I think there's more of an Illan

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Speaker 4: Rodgers Revench game with the minus because he hasn't been

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Speaker 4: the minus in the playoffs. He's in the playoffs. And secondly,

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Speaker 4: most importantly, I think I remember when he got drafted

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Speaker 4: by the Green Bay Packers. The forty nine ers passed

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Speaker 4: on him and they drafted Alex Smith, and he was really,

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Speaker 4: really pissed. He was not too happy about it. And

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Speaker 4: I think this is like, go, you know what a

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Speaker 4: prove I want to prove it type of game. I

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Speaker 4: think that's my take.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I respect that, and that could that could be

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Speaker 2: dredged up. I'm sure even though it was fifteen years ago,

656
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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven draft, I think, yeah, seventeen years

657
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Speaker 2: ago Rogers yeaheah, that's about seven draft. I believe it's

658
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: the seven draft. And uh yeah, he's from Chico, California.

659
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: Niners were his hometown team. They passed on him, along

660
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: with the host of other teams, but the Niners made

661
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Speaker 2: Alex Smith the first pick in the draft that year.

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Speaker 1: So, and Alex Smith had a nice career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not the same career as Rogers, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: The same career as Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, if if it still sticks in his

666
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Speaker 2: craw yeah, it could very well be motivation. I think

667
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Speaker 2: he's going to be focused on a few different things,

668
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Speaker 2: you know when he steps out onto the field, Like

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Speaker 2: how much mobility do I feel I have? Am I

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Speaker 2: the same mobile court bag that I've been for the

671
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Speaker 2: majority of my career coming off this achilles injury? Where

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Speaker 2: is Leonard Floyd where is Nick Bosa? You know that

673
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Speaker 2: kind of thing. I think those will be.

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Speaker 1: Is Leard Floyd on the San Francisco Yes he is

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Speaker 1: four plays in.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, you're gonna do that?

677
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's just too easy. That's like teeing

678
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Speaker 1: it up for me. That so Leonard Floyd has a

679
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Speaker 1: chance to be on the field first series of the

680
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Speaker 1: game on a Monday night against Aaron Rodgers, just like

681
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Speaker 1: he did last Monday night. That would be last opening weekend,

682
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Speaker 1: that would be correct. Goodness gracious, yep, it's deja vous

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Speaker 1: all over again. It is very much so.

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Speaker 2: To Kevin in Hamburg. Next, what's up Kevin?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how you doing? Thanks for digging my call?

686
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Speaker 2: Sure sure.

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Speaker 7: Two things I want to say is first of all,

688
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Speaker 7: about I hope you want to hear about Aaron Rodgers

689
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 7: the whole I have off season like we did last

690
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 7: year that got to be so lame all the way

691
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Speaker 7: up to the nine to eleven game. I know Aaron

692
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 7: Rodgers got a little better protection this year, but that

693
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Speaker 7: just because it's a little better than one last year,

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Speaker 7: don't mean it's the Hogs protecting them. And I don't

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Speaker 7: think he's gonna I don't know. He might last, but

696
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Speaker 7: I don't know. I still don't think he's gonna last

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Speaker 7: the whole season, guys, I really don't. He might more

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Speaker 7: than last year. But after the Building game, he's gonna

699
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 7: play at Pittsburgh, and if TJ want he hurt like

700
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 7: you went for a wild card, he could be doomed

701
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 7: net game. You know, Pittsburgh's defense is no matter what

702
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 7: their offensive, their defense has always been phenomenal. So so

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to bring that one up. And about

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Speaker 7: the Miami game. I wish the Miami game the second

705
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 7: one here in Buffalo, we've been closer to Christmas like

706
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 7: it was in twenty two. Remember that good karma we had.

707
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 7: We sweat Ron butts off and then nave froz Win

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Speaker 7: started to snow. So yeah, Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this one will be November third. It'll be like

710
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: three weeks before Thanks get everything. Yeah, that's right, and

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00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, there is reason to think that

712
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: a four year old Aaron Rodgers are forty one at

713
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Speaker 1: that point. Aaron Rodgers will struggle to stay healthy throughout

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Speaker 1: the whole season.

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Speaker 2: It's no secret they play on a lousy surface in

716
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: med life.

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Speaker 1: They do, and he's living proof of that. So yeah,

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00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: and I yeah, you're right. Listen the Jets for the

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00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: last and it's and for unbelievable reasons that we have

720
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Speaker 1: talked about this a lot. Joe Douglas there in the

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Speaker 1: Jets and Robert Salo Brownie, and I I think I

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Speaker 1: think Brownie thinks the same as I do. I think

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Speaker 1: those guys are doing it right. Robert sala is a

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Speaker 1: good coach. He got the most out of a bad

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Speaker 1: break last year when they lost Aaron Rodgers. He still

726
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: puts together an elite defense. And Joe Douglas has drafted

727
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: better than any Jets GM over the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, they still got some work to do,

729
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: but they put together a really good roster. I mean,

730
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: there's you can't look at that Jets to say they stink.

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Speaker 1: Who are they gonna get who? They've got some guys,

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00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: but they don't have a quarterback. Well this just in

733
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: the Bills know it, the Dolphins know it, and the

734
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Speaker 1: Patriots know it. You got to have one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: And if Rogers can do it anywhere close to where

736
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Speaker 1: he has in the past, the Jets are going to

737
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: be really good, really good. The question is can he

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Speaker 1: stay healthy? You're Kevin from Hamburg is right? Yeah, he's right.

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Speaker 2: We go to Don on a sale. Next, what's up Don?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how are you good? First thing, I had

741
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Speaker 8: a big question for Steve, but I wanted to just say, Chris,

742
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Speaker 8: I hope you get the regular job at the announcer.

743
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 8: You do a great job, and I hope that that's

744
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 8: what happens to you.

745
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Speaker 2: Thanks for those sentiments. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 8: No problem, Steve. Question that I had that I wanted

747
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Speaker 8: to ask one member of the Super Bowl team from

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Speaker 8: Super Bowl twenty five, did you, guys maybe we have

749
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Speaker 8: a little bit of a letdown playing the Giants because

750
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Speaker 8: you had already beaten them without Kelly, basically after the

751
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Speaker 8: first half at Giants Stadium, and then you were going

752
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Speaker 8: to play them again in the Super Bowl with Hosteddler

753
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Speaker 8: as the starting quarterback. I thought, Oh, the whole year

754
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 8: everyone was waiting for you guys to get throw them

755
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 8: the Niners, defeat the team of the nineties and become

756
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 8: that team, or defeat the team of the eighties become

757
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 8: the team of the nineties, and that game was sort

758
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Speaker 8: of like a letdown as a fan I felt that

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Speaker 8: a little bit, and I always wanted to ask a

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Speaker 8: person from that team.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, No, I don't think there was a letdown.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, we were supremely confident going into that game.

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Speaker 1: We really felt good about where we were at, where

764
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: we were playing, how we were playing, or how healthy

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Speaker 1: we were the whole nine yards. We really felt good

766
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Speaker 1: about going into that game. Certainly we had Jim back

767
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Speaker 1: on the field. Their quarterback, Phil Simms, went out in

768
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: the exact same game that Jim did in that Giants

769
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: game in the Meadowlands. Jim went down and so did

770
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Speaker 1: Phil Sims. So both clubs lost their starting quarterback. We

771
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Speaker 1: got ours back, they didn't, and Hostel was still in there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we had every reason to think we were

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Speaker 1: going to go in and play really well against those guys.

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Speaker 1: But we knew too, I mean we'd seen them. They

775
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Speaker 1: just you know, beat the Niners the week before.

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Speaker 2: I mean knocked Montana out of that, yeah, Marshall.

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Speaker 1: So we knew it was going to be a tough game.

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Speaker 1: We knew it because we barely squeaked by him in

779
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Speaker 1: the Meadowlands. Uh. But yeah, we had every reason to

780
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Speaker 1: be confident. Letting a letdown. And I don't think a letdown. No,

781
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Speaker 1: I don't. I would I wouldn't. I wouldn't categorize it

782
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: like that. But we were we were really confident going

783
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Speaker 1: in and I'm sure the giants were too.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, Steve, I just want to thank you and

785
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 8: the guys for, you know, giving us all those great years.

786
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 8: We're getting the same kind of stuff now, but there's

787
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Speaker 8: nothing like that, and we all appreciated very much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. That's nice. Yeah, listen, I was at an event

789
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Speaker 1: here at the stadium last night with Jim Kelly and

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00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: Darryl Tally. Yeah. Man, you know, it was great to

791
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: see those guys. They're actually doing great. Jim's doing great,

792
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Darryl's doing great. Darrel was actually left the event last night,

793
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: drove to Cleveland to see his mom.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice.

795
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Speaker 1: So he's just tooling it and it was just so fun.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of laughs last night at an

797
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: event here, a Ticketmaster event here at the stadium, and

798
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: just it was so great to see him. That's cool,

799
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: so great to see him.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but we're gonna

801
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: take more of your phone calls when we come back,

802
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: So if you have one dive into the OBL Friday

803
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: fan mail bag and submit your question. You can do

804
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,920
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805
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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty or on the tweetsheet at

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Speaker 2: one Bills Live Back with more of your questions.

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Speaker 1: Next.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Welcome back to One Bill's Live Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. The OBL Friday fan mail bag

810
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: is open for any question you might have about the Bills,

811
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: the league at large, you name it, and we're going

812
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: to go right back to the phones at eight oh

813
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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty where we do have an open

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Speaker 2: line for you, and we go to Mark in West Seneca.

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Speaker 9: What's up Mark, Good afternoon, guys, how are you today? Well,

816
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 9: that's good. A couple of things. I was hoping you

817
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Speaker 9: guys could really quickly run over the kickoff thing again,

818
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 9: because I'm really not clear on, you know, the whole

819
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 9: thing as far as landing zone, where you get the

820
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 9: ball if you kick it, Indians and all that good stuff.

821
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Speaker 9: I believe the kicking team now is winding up on

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Speaker 9: the thirty yard line of the other team, if I'm

823
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Speaker 9: not mistaken. But what I really wanted to discuss was

824
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 9: the on side kick thing. Okay, if you guys remember

825
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 9: I called the other day and I guess sort of

826
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Speaker 9: got all over though a soapbox about ridiculous crazy rules

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Speaker 9: in the NFL, and I don't understand why they are

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Speaker 9: making it restrictive as to when you can say I

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Speaker 9: want to try it on sidekick. I mean, so if

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Speaker 9: a coach decides he wants to start a game, regardless

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Speaker 9: of what the format of what the kick is actually

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Speaker 9: going to be and ends up being, whether it be

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Speaker 9: the fourth and fifteenth play or lining up and kicking

834
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Speaker 9: it traditionally like we've been doing the last few years,

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Speaker 9: if a coach wants to do it at the start

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Speaker 9: of the game, why doesn't he have the option to

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Speaker 9: do that? It's not I mean, as crazy as it is,

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00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 9: the odds are against you anyway, whatever format it takes.

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Speaker 9: If a coach wants to do something as crazy as that,

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Speaker 9: it's not the league's job to protect a bad coach

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Speaker 9: from himself. Number one. Number two, I was wondering, now

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00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 9: they've taken the element of surprise pretty much totally out

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Speaker 9: of it. I mean, you can't even just line up

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Speaker 9: like a regular kickoff and try one. Being said, I

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00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 9: don't know if this is a little bit too gimmicking.

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Speaker 9: I was thinking about it a little bit. Could they

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Speaker 9: institute something whereas, if you know how, they blow the

848
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 9: whistle and says, okay to the kicker, go ahead and

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Speaker 9: kick when you're ready. If they blew a whistle, and

850
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 9: then the kicking team then has the option to turn,

851
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 9: run back towards their kicker, say to midfield, get in

852
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 9: their stance really quick, and then try to execute a kick.

853
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Speaker 9: An on side kick. Granted, you'd probably have to work

854
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 9: it out that the kicker is gonna have to be

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Speaker 9: really accurate because he's probably gonna have to kick it

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Speaker 9: through his own team, But then it may be still

857
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Speaker 9: have to have it travel that ten yards. Obviously, the

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Speaker 9: receiving team has got to get up the field also

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Speaker 9: as soon as they see that happen.

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Speaker 2: And Mark, I think you're kind of answering your own question.

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Speaker 2: That's just to me, what you described there really isn't

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Speaker 2: feasible just to maintain the element of surprise for an

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Speaker 2: onside kick. It's clear to everybody with respect to the

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Speaker 2: on side kick that the percentage of success es rate

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Speaker 2: has gone down precipitously due to previous rules like spreading

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Speaker 2: the players out.

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Speaker 1: When Bobby April.

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00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Was here and we're up against it, Mark, so I'm

869
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: gonna let you lose and just explain the rest of

870
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: it here. When Bobby April was a special teams coach

871
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: here in the early two thousands all the way to

872
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: about twenty ten to twenty eleven, he had a kamikaze

873
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: play for an onside kick. They would basically huddle the

874
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: whole team like they were in a huddle before the play,

875
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: and then they would break the huddle and run as

876
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: a swarm of bees behind the kicker Ryan Lindell, who

877
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: then dribbled the ball forward. And the first three or

878
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: four guys out of that huddle were the biggest players

879
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: on the field and they basically cleaned the clock of

880
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: any opponenting player that had a second of thought about

881
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: trying to scoop up the ball, they would get obliterated,

882
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: and the guys on the second line coming in behind

883
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: him would scoop up the ball and get the on

884
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: side's recovery. That went away because they were concussing the

885
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: three guys trying to feeld the ball for the opposing team,

886
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: and that got eliminated, and then they had rules. You

887
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: have to have at least two guys outside the numbers

888
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: on either side. Let's spread all the players out. Now,

889
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 2: you can't take a running start anymore.

890
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: You got to take the same number of guys on

891
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: one side of the ball the other side of the ball.

892
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: You can't take all of those things led to where

893
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: we are now, and it's a safer play. That's the

894
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: priority element of surprise. Yes, it's a casualty of war.

895
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: And for those of you are watching on an msgu

896
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: these are the new rules. There's a kickoff team. They're

897
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna line up the opponent's forty yard line and the

898
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: other team lines up at the thirty five, so there's

899
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: only five yards difference all the way across one guy deep,

900
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 1: and the ball has to land inside the twenty yard

901
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: line and outside the end zone. Okay, inside the twenty

902
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: yard line and outside the end zone. And they the

903
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: two teams that are lined up on the thirty five

904
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: and the forty yard line can't move until the ball

905
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: is caught by the guy back deep. Okay, that's it.

906
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: Everything else is on the table, and you're right. It

907
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: does take away the surprise on side kick as an option.

908
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: And the only change to the graphics that we had

909
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: up there that the league made was that any kick

910
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: that hits in the end zone and stays in bounds

911
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: returned or down. If down, then a touchback goes out

912
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: to the thirty It was originally written up as the

913
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: thirty five. They have amended that it's only the thirty

914
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: yard line that.

915
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: It goes to.

916
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: Any kick that goes out of the back of the

917
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: end zone in the air or bounces also a touchback,

918
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: also the thirty yard line. As for the on side's kick,

919
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: which was also the other question, fourth quarter begins. You

920
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: can attempt an on side's kick, but the team trailing

921
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: has the opportunity to make that choice, and then they

922
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: must declare it to the official because the alignment is

923
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: obviously different. They're lining up with the kicker. There's no

924
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: surprise thirty yards downfield.

925
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: There's no surprise onside available option anymore. So yeah, that's that.

926
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: So Sean Payton will go down in history as making

927
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: the most famous on side's kick call in NFL history,

928
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: which happened in the Super Bowl when the Saints recovered

929
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: the on side kick to start the third quarter.

930
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: Great call that'll be it.

931
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there won't be calls like that anymore.

932
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: No, there won't. And and I mean I I recovered

933
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: a handful on side kicks in my day, both both

934
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: for the kicking team and for the receiving team. So

935
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: it's and I'll say it was a dangerous play, There's

936
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And when they started stamped the

937
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: stampede alignment, somebody came up with that idea and it

938
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: was I can laugh about it now because I'm still breathing,

939
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: but it was not fun. It was not fun. And

940
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: and you made the you know, Mark from West Seneca

941
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: made the comment, you can't you know, it's it's not

942
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: the league's job to protect a back coach from himself

943
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: making some crazy call on side. Well it's a good point,

944
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: but it is the league's job in legally to protect

945
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: the players from themselves and from the rules of the

946
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: game and what it allows. They've got to build a

947
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: game so that the players can play safely within it

948
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: as hard as they want.

949
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: Play safer, play longer.

950
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: And that is their job. And the on side kick

951
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: and kickoff team and kickoff return team have been at

952
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: risk in the league's opinion, and statistically speaking, with injuries

953
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: and the type of injuries they have been at risk, Yeah,

954
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: for decades, So I'm going to fix that.

955
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: Any any change to the rules. When you ask why

956
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: would they do that? Why are you removing this part

957
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: of the game lately, the common answer is the same.

958
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: Safety has become the priority, and I don't think that's

959
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: an unreasonable thing to prioritize.

960
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: We can talk more about this after the break because

961
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot in this about what the league's

962
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: responsibility is and what the union says. I made a

963
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: point last night about the eighteen game schedule. I'd like, wow,

964
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: that's too many games. I was like, you know, let

965
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: me tell you something the league, and we said this yesterday.

966
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: The league put a game on a Wednesday, and they

967
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: got two teams playing three games and ten days in

968
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: week sixteen, and the players union has been silent. Yeah,

969
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: that'll tell you all you need to know about how

970
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: dangerous they really think the games themselves are.

971
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back the

972
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: second hour of the show, we'll begin with our friend

973
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: from Pro Football Focus, lead NFL analyst Sam Monson, also

974
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: co host of the PFF NFL Show. He had a

975
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: recent write up on PFF dot com have the Buffalo

976
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: Bills done enough this offseason to address their receiver room?

977
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: We'll dive into that subject with him next Here on

978
00:50:49,520 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

979
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

980
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 2: All Right, nour number two Here on a Friday, Chris Brown,

981
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Happy to be joined now by

982
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: the lead NFL analyst for Pro Football Focus, Sam Monson.

983
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: Good friend of the show. Sam, Good to have you

984
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: with us, and the timing could not have been better

985
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: because you just put up a story at pff dot

986
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: com that basically asks the question, have the Buffalo Bills

987
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: done enough this offseason to address their receiver room? We

988
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: encourage you to check it out. I think it's pretty

989
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: fair and balanced from front to back, because I think

990
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: some of your questions about it are valid, and I

991
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 2: think some of your faith in the continuity that Josh

992
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: Allen and maybe the offensive line provides are valid as well.

993
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 2: I guess the question is how much of a beat

994
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: do you expect this offense to meet? Knowing the trigger man,

995
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: who is a unicorn is largely the same.

996
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

997
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 10: And then the other thing that wasn't really in the

998
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 10: article too much is how much is the entire offense

999
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 10: going to change, you know, and pivot away from the

1000
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 10: type of system they've been running the last couple of

1001
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 10: years where obviously Stefan Diggs was the focal point at receiver.

1002
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 10: How much are they going to lean on tight ends

1003
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 10: and you know, the more yards after yards after the

1004
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 10: catch centric group that they have right now across the board.

1005
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 10: And so maybe what looks like a potential hole on

1006
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 10: the ross or we're kind of projecting that back to

1007
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 10: the last offense, you know, relative to that system, it's

1008
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 10: a big hole. In the new system, it might not

1009
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 10: be that big of a gap, but you're right, Look,

1010
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 10: Josh Allen is one of those quarterbacks up there with

1011
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 10: Patrick Mahomes and you know, Joe Burrow and not too

1012
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 10: many others that can completely transcend supporting casts and make

1013
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 10: things work with a supporting group that other quarterbacks simply

1014
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 10: wouldn't be able to make functions. So you have to

1015
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 10: have faith that a quarterback that good and a coaching

1016
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 10: staff over the overall as good as they've been, are

1017
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 10: going to find a way of making it work. The

1018
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 10: question is just sort of how it's going to work

1019
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 10: with the collection of receivers that they've assembled since trading

1020
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 10: away it dicks.

1021
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and certainly the way that Khalil Shakir emerged in

1022
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: the second half of last year. Dalton kin Kid certainly

1023
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: came into his own at the end of the last season.

1024
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: Then Dawson Knox is a part of that. James Cook also,

1025
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: is there those guys still there? Really the one guy

1026
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: that you're one wondering about, Keon Coleman, if he comes

1027
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: and gets plugged in Curtis Samuel. Maybe I'm a little

1028
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: more proven that Curtis Samuel has been doing it with

1029
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: a list of quarterbacks that is less than stellar, and

1030
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: you would think going to a guy like Josh Allen

1031
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: would give him a boost. But still it's still a

1032
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: question mark. Those are the things that really are the

1033
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: on the flip side of the positive feelings you got

1034
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: about the Bills and the continuity going forward, the flip

1035
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: side are the question marks, the X receiver and the

1036
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: new guy that's coming in for it to replace Gabe

1037
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: Davis or whatever. Keon Coleman and Curtis Samuel. If those

1038
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: are the two guys that do it. Those are the

1039
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: only two spots offensively that you really have to look

1040
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: like say, well, we'll see. But the emergence of Kincaid

1041
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: and Shakir kind of give you an idea that like, well,

1042
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: maybe they're not important that they hit the ground that

1043
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, running, hit the ground running, so to speak.

1044
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's not really that they lack, you know, talented players.

1045
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 10: It's more the dynamic within that offense and all the

1046
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 10: players that they have that look to be their best receivers,

1047
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 10: Khalil Shakir, these are all guys that operate best from

1048
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 10: the slot. I mean, Dalton Kinkaid was basically a big

1049
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 10: slot receiver last season. Khalil Shakier has always been at

1050
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 10: his best operating from the slot.

1051
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: And then when you trade away.

1052
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 10: Diggs, when you let Gabe Davis walk, those are two

1053
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 10: guys that did work outside. You know, they could play

1054
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 10: that exposition, defeat press coverage, win against single coverage on

1055
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 10: the outside deep down the field. And that's the one

1056
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 10: thing that's a question mark with almost anybody that you

1057
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 10: look at on this receiving corps, except you know, somebody

1058
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 10: like Marquez Valdas Scantling, who they just signed he can

1059
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 10: absolutely do that, but obviously he's been very much a

1060
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 10: one trick pony and a limited receiver in his own right.

1061
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 10: Despite you know, the flip side of the Curtis Samuel thing,

1062
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 10: he's only had all pros throwing him the football between

1063
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes and now Josh Allen. So that's

1064
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 10: my real question mark, and in particular with Keon Coleman.

1065
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 10: I really liked Keon Coleman as a draft prospect, maybe

1066
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 10: more than his sort of profile suggests I should. There

1067
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 10: were a few red flags to his data or to

1068
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 10: his production, but the one thing that I think is

1069
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 10: concerning is he did not separate well against man coverage.

1070
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 10: Was in the bottom percentile last season of Florida State.

1071
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 10: Even if you include his Michigan State tape, he only

1072
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 10: gets to the fifty first percentile. I think in terms

1073
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 10: of separating against man coverage, that's what you need him

1074
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 10: to do if he's going to come in and play

1075
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 10: X receiver. I think he fits better in the slot,

1076
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 10: again like a lot of these other guys, and I

1077
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 10: think he can be a very good receiver, But I

1078
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 10: worry a little bit if that's.

1079
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: What's going to be asked of him.

1080
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 10: If they're going to say, hey, Diggs isn't here anymore,

1081
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 10: that's the hale on the team.

1082
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: We need an X receiver and that's what you got

1083
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: to go and do.

1084
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Let me try to expand on that a little bit,

1085
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: Sam if I could, because I'm just curious as to

1086
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: the metrics in measuring that and if a quarterback's accuracy

1087
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: and ball placement is a part of that equation and

1088
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: coming up with that final figure, because we've talked to

1089
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 2: a couple of Florida State people who basically said Jordan

1090
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: Travis sometimes put keon Coleman in those contested situations based

1091
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: on ball placement and accuracy. Now, I'm not saying that's

1092
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: going to make up a majority of the situations that

1093
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: you guys are charting, but I'm wondering if that's an

1094
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: element that you factor into that metric.

1095
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, it shouldn't affect the separation metric that we're looking

1096
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 10: at because that's being taken at the point the ball

1097
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 10: is put in the air as opposed to win the

1098
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 10: ball actually arrives. But it does absolutely affect his overall production,

1099
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 10: his overall profile.

1100
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: Coming out of Florida State.

1101
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 10: You only have to watch his tape for a brief

1102
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 10: period of time to start getting frustrated at the quarterback

1103
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 10: play there and understand that it's not putting him in

1104
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 10: a great position to succeed. That's why I think that

1105
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 10: he can be a really good receiver. Like I think

1106
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 10: his production is not as good as it could have

1107
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 10: been if he'd had better quarterback play. And that's why

1108
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 10: some of the red flags in his Toisco profile of

1109
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 10: college I do think are a bit of a red herring,

1110
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 10: and he can overcome those. You know, he does show

1111
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 10: really good feel for zone coverage and it's quite quarterback

1112
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 10: friendly in terms of taking a step towards the football,

1113
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 10: you know, late separation against zone coverage, taking a quick

1114
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 10: step away from a guy and into the space. I

1115
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 10: think there's a lot to like about Keon Coleman's profile,

1116
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 10: but I think the one thing that he just does

1117
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 10: not do particularly well is separate himself from man coverage.

1118
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: And looking back at last year with this Bill's offense,

1119
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: Joe Brady's certainly taking over to half of the season

1120
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: to go, and they come, they go six and one

1121
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: down the stretch, win their last five. What did you

1122
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: notice about where this offense might evolve too, And particularly

1123
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: given the skill set that now we're talking about with

1124
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: Keon Coleman and Curtis Samuel, Long, with Shakir and Kincaid

1125
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: and cooking all that stuff. Where do you see this

1126
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: this evolving to from where it was under Ken Dorsey.

1127
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 10: I actually don't think we saw a big sort of

1128
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 10: schematic shift in the system once he came in. I

1129
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 10: think what we saw is him kind of doing putting

1130
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 10: his slant on the can Dorsey offense. And this is

1131
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 10: the season we're going to see whatever schematic shifts paradigm

1132
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 10: shifts are in there. But I think you almost sort

1133
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 10: of get an inclination based off the personnel they've assembled,

1134
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 10: and it does make sense for them to start getting

1135
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 10: the ball in these receivers' hands much more horizontally using

1136
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 10: run after the catch skills. King Kaid is good after

1137
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 10: the catch, Shakiir is good after the catch. Curtis Samuel,

1138
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 10: like almost everybody they have on this team right now,

1139
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 10: excels with the ball in their hands after the catch.

1140
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 10: So that's what I wonder if we're going to start

1141
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 10: to see is a shift in a lower average depth

1142
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 10: of target, much more horizontal attacking with this offense and

1143
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 10: getting the ball out quickly and taking advantage of the

1144
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 10: athletes that they have with getting them the ball.

1145
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that you say that because Curtis Samuel

1146
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: is a guy that people are curious to see, and

1147
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: knowing that he and Joe Brady have a prior relationship

1148
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: down in Carolina in the twenty twenty season, which was

1149
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: also the most productive of Samuel's career seventy seven for

1150
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: eight fifty one and three touchdowns and a catch rate

1151
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: of almost eighty percent, a lot of that being short

1152
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: near to the line of scrimmage, and then Samuel does

1153
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: the rest after the catch. Would you anticipate that he

1154
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: uses him the same exact way or do do you

1155
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: foresee maybe a different type of role for him if

1156
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: he maybe moves up in the receiving pecking order knowing

1157
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: Diggs is no longer here.

1158
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I would imagine that is a starting point.

1159
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 10: You know, he knows that he can do that he

1160
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 10: can do a good job in that particular role that

1161
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 10: he had in Carolina. I would imagine they're going to

1162
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 10: give him an opportunity to see if he can do more.

1163
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 10: And if you go back all the way back to

1164
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 10: his Ohio State tape. He was a real vertical threat

1165
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 10: in that offense as well. Like he made a lot

1166
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 10: of big plays deep down the field. So I do

1167
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 10: wonder if they're going to try and use him a

1168
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 10: little bit more in that Now, a lot of those

1169
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 10: plays came, you know, they weren't necessarily Stefan Diggs type

1170
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 10: of plays where he's beating pressman coverage on the outside.

1171
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 10: There were a lot of releases from the slot or

1172
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 10: even out of the backfield, and it was he didn't

1173
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 10: have to deal with the kind of pressman coverage that

1174
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,479
Speaker 10: he would if he's stepping into that Digs role. But yeah,

1175
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 10: I do wonder if they try and expand his role

1176
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 10: from Carolina a little bit and use him more as

1177
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 10: a vertical option.

1178
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you a little bit about some

1179
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: of the stuff that's going on around the league with

1180
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, if Jared Goff just signed a contract extension,

1181
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: You've got Daniel Jones who's coming into a second or

1182
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: third year of his contract new contract, and the Texans

1183
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: now are they're they're looking to take a new approach

1184
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty. They're a different team than they were

1185
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: just eighteen months ago. I mean, we know so much

1186
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: more about them. What are some of the things, particularly

1187
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: this quarterback market, when you've got guys like Daniel Jones

1188
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: making forty million dollars and two was sitting in Miami

1189
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: waiting for his turn to get paid, how do you

1190
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: think this is going to turn out out? Not only

1191
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: in Miami, but also the ramifications of Jared Goff signing

1192
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: a deal the way he did.

1193
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jared gov deal was it was big money.

1194
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 10: You know, people speculated maybe the Lions were going to

1195
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 10: try and find some kind of middle tier quarterback deal

1196
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 10: for Jared Goff, you know, the understanding that he probably

1197
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 10: isn't the top tier of quarterbacks, but they gave him

1198
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 10: pretty much top of the market money, not quite the

1199
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 10: best paid quarterback in the NFL, but pretty close, and

1200
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 10: really resoundingly answered that they're going to give him elite

1201
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 10: money and believe that within their team and the players

1202
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 10: that he has to throw to and Ben Johnson at

1203
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 10: offensive coordinator calling the plays, he can play at the required.

1204
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 3: Level they need him to.

1205
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 10: I think Miami, you know, the price tag obviously goes

1206
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 10: up for Tuoa, but I think they're in a similar boat.

1207
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 10: They're going to end up giving to a top of

1208
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 10: the market money, a similar deal to Jared Goff for

1209
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 10: similar reasons. The contract that I think it makes interesting though,

1210
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 10: is Dallas and Dak Prescott.

1211
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: They struggled to get.

1212
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 10: Him signed the last time around and cost them in

1213
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 10: terms of both overall money of that deal, but also

1214
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 10: the structure of the deal became a contract that is

1215
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 10: a problem for Dallas, and now they're kind of doing

1216
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 10: the same thing. They're dragging this out. The price tag

1217
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 10: is only going upwards. I do wonder if there is

1218
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 10: a real chance that eventually they can't get that deal

1219
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 10: done and Dak Prescott becomes a surprise you available quarterback

1220
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 10: next year.

1221
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: Looking at the AFC, it seems to get only more

1222
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: and more competitive with teams, you know, securing young quarterbacks

1223
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: in the draft the last several years, fortifying their rosters

1224
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: both on offense and defense. Who do you think has

1225
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: kind of helped themselves with this most recent draft class

1226
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: the most on the AFC side of the ledger. That's

1227
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: kind of maybe vaulted themselves up a tier in what's

1228
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 2: going to probably be a very competitive AFC playoff race.

1229
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 10: They have I think the toughest schedule in the NFL

1230
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 10: this year. But I really like the offseason that the

1231
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 10: Pittsburgh Steelers have. You know, when you consider where they

1232
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 10: were from a quarterback standpoint, I think they did the

1233
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 10: best thing possible with that situation. They moved on from

1234
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 10: Kenny Picket, they brought in Justin Fields, they brought in

1235
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 10: Russell Wilson. They're paying Russell Wilson virtually nothing. I think

1236
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 10: he counts for around a million dollars on their salary

1237
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 10: cap because all the pain is being taken by Denver.

1238
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 10: Justin Fields is a cheap option as well. Either one

1239
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 10: of those guys is an upgrade over the football that

1240
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 10: Kenny Pickett played a year ago. And they had a

1241
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 10: great draft again, second year in a row, they've had

1242
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 10: a really good draft, and you know, their baseline with

1243
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 10: Mike Tomlin at the coach, it tends to be extremely high.

1244
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 10: So I really like what the Steelers have done. I

1245
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 10: just wonder if it's enough, because that schedule is so tough,

1246
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 10: you know whether we're going to see it evidence of

1247
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 10: it on the field and wins and losses.

1248
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: And then you look at the surprise pick of the

1249
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: draft probably was Mike Pennix by the Falcons, a team

1250
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: that looked like they wanted to get better, made a

1251
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: move to get Kirk Cousins and then to take Mike Pennix,

1252
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: who is who's old for a rookie to begin with,

1253
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: and then you sit there and you draft him, and

1254
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna sit behind you know, Kirk Cousins for what year,

1255
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: two years, and he'll be twenty six at the time

1256
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: he even takes the reins if things go according to plan.

1257
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: Really kind of a head scratcher there for Atlanta, a

1258
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: team that didn't do well last year and looking to

1259
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: take a big step forward, taking a draft pick on

1260
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna sit for two years no matter what.

1261
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's an unprecedented move.

1262
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 10: I think we've seen versions of this type of move

1263
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 10: with the Aaron Rodgers selection with Jordan Love to replace

1264
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers. You know, way back in the nineties, Denver

1265
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 10: drafted Tommy Maddocks in the first round when they had

1266
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 10: John Elway at the peak of his powers. Teams have

1267
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 10: done that before, but they've never done it with a.

1268
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: Top ten draft pick.

1269
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 10: You know, That's what makes this unprecedented, and they've never

1270
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 10: done it. Having just signed a quarterback a few weeks

1271
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 10: before in free agency. So all of these elements together

1272
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 10: is what makes that completely unprecedented. But I think you know,

1273
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 10: you've heard the team reference the Jordan Love the Green

1274
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 10: Bay model multiple times since that. I think that's really

1275
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 10: what this comes down to. Is they believe that there

1276
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 10: is merit to that Jordan Love succession plan and that

1277
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 10: a quarterback can sit and learn on the sideline for

1278
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 10: a couple of years and get better and have a

1279
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 10: better chance of being a good player. And once he

1280
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 10: finally gets into the starting lineup, regardless of whether he's

1281
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 10: twenty one or twenty four, it's those two years of

1282
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 10: adjustment into the NFL that's the valuable part. And if

1283
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 10: they're right, you know, that might be more valuable than

1284
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 10: any single player they could take in the top ten

1285
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 10: this year. Getting that sort of succession plan right and

1286
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 10: securing not just the best football for the next couple

1287
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 10: of years, but the next ten years of this franchise,

1288
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 10: that's what they're banking on.

1289
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: Last one for you, Sam, you already referenced how tough

1290
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers' schedule is, and it is a bear. I mean,

1291
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. They're part of that group

1292
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: of four teams that are playing on Christmas Day and

1293
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: essentially have three games in ten or eleven days late

1294
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: in the season. To me, that's a daunting task for

1295
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Speaker 2: any team, even if they go into it healthy to

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Speaker 2: expect bodies to respond in a way where the quality

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Speaker 2: of your football play is going to measure up with

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Speaker 2: each successive game with less rest after each one of them.

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Speaker 2: I realize they try to even that out by having

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Speaker 2: those same four teams on similar schedules, but I'm curious

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Speaker 2: what's your kind of take on that and how much

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Speaker 2: do you think the product might suffer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty rough.

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Speaker 10: It's hard not to see that as a massive competitive

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Speaker 10: disadvantage for those teams with that short week of rest.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh in particular.

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Speaker 10: You know that the two games back to back in

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Speaker 10: really short succession are both really tough opponents as well,

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Speaker 10: so they.

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Speaker 3: Get hit doubly hard by that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's Look, we know that the NFL is going

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Speaker 10: to do whatever the NFL thinks makes the most money,

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Speaker 10: and stuff in Christmas Day with a couple of games

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Speaker 10: makes them a lot of money with those extra you know,

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Speaker 10: Netflix coming into this as well, So yeah, it's a

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Speaker 10: tough it's tough for the teams that are stuck with it.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. It's probably likely to result.

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Speaker 10: In some less than optimal football as well, but it's

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Speaker 10: all in the pursuit of the NFL's expansion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, thanks so much anytime.

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Speaker 3: Guys take it easy, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, appreciate the time. That's PFF lead NFL analyst Sam

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Speaker 2: monson joining us if you haven't had a chance, go

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Speaker 2: check is right up out. Have the Bills done enough

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Speaker 2: in their wide receiver room this offseason? And I think

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Speaker 2: Steve you kind of brought it up with one of

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Speaker 2: your questions for him. It's not taking into account the

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Speaker 2: two pass catching tight ends on this roster and Knox

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Speaker 2: and Kincaid. Nor is it taking into account the guys

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Speaker 2: they have in the backfield, like a James Cook who's

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Speaker 2: an accomplished receiving talent as well as a running back.

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Speaker 2: So I think when you roll it all together, there

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Speaker 2: is more than enough talent. I think the bigger question

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Speaker 2: is how is it all going to blend and how

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Speaker 2: are the roles going to be hammered out within a

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Speaker 2: scheme that could also be considerably tweaked.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Sam, seems to question, and in his article and

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Speaker 1: here on the show, you know, are they gonna have

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Speaker 1: enough of a varied skill set to make it work?

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Speaker 1: They need more. I think he thinks they're lacking on

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Speaker 1: an outside guy to take over Gabe and Digs because

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Speaker 1: those guys were outside the numbers. Now Khalil Shakir and

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel to a certain extent, and Kin Kaid to

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Speaker 1: a certain extent, are inside the numbers guys. That's his question. Now,

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01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: Keon Coleman's out there. He's an outside the numbers guy.

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Speaker 1: And we'll see if Justin Shorter, if Mac all these

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Speaker 1: other guys that they brought, all these six four guys

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Speaker 1: that we've been talking about for a week, and somebody

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Speaker 1: get on the field. That's the real question. I do like.

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Speaker 2: Sam's thought about maybe reinventing Curtis Samuel's role in getting

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Speaker 2: back to what he did in college, which was more

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Speaker 2: downfield routes. I mean, we cannot forget the guy ran

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Speaker 2: a four to three one at the Combine. I know

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Speaker 2: that was seven years ago, but I'd like to think

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Speaker 2: he's still got a spring in his step at age

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. You can still motor so if that guy

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Speaker 2: can serve a purpose that way. Maybe not in a

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Speaker 2: full time capacity, maybe that's not all he is, but

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Speaker 2: I think it's in him to do it or at

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Speaker 2: this level, so I would welcome it. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: see some of that from him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see. Because we say it here all

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Speaker 1: the time, we talk about, you know, fitting players into

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Speaker 1: an offense is the wrong way to look at it.

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Speaker 1: You got to fit an offense around the players. And

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Speaker 1: we'll see what Joe Brady sees in these guys and

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Speaker 1: what he asked them to do and what they can do,

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Speaker 1: and the offense will look like that. Now, whatever it

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Speaker 1: may be.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones. At eight oh three

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Speaker 2: h five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty the numbers to get on board. As

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Speaker 2: it is the OBL Fan Friday Mailbag. Any question you have,

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Speaker 2: you can fire it off at us got open lines

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Speaker 2: for you there, or you can hit us up on

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Speaker 2: the tweets sheet at one bills Live. But to the phones,

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Speaker 2: we go into Mark in Jersey City.

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Speaker 11: What's up Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 11: I look at like this three teams for this connection.

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Speaker 11: The Packers, the Bills and the Jets. I just feel

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Speaker 11: like once the Packers were able to move off of Rogers,

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Speaker 11: you know, a two time MVP, a guy that was

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Speaker 11: at the pinnacle, you know from a playing standpoint, and

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Speaker 11: he comes over to the Jets where you know, it's

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Speaker 11: dysfunction junction and it's still very much is. Nothing has

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Speaker 11: changed to forham Park. It never will. I feel like

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Speaker 11: the same thing will happen with the Bills in the

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Speaker 11: sense whatever was going on with Diggs, so there was

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Speaker 11: something there. The team is not paying him the money

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Speaker 11: that they're paying him to not play for them, whether

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Speaker 11: you know, some of it was media driven, but I

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 11: think there was some of it that was him driven.

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Speaker 11: Something was there, And I look at that Jet game

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Speaker 11: where the Joe Brady offense did so much better than

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Speaker 11: the previous four under Dorsey, where they you know, focus

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Speaker 11: more on being balanced running the ball. That's why I

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Speaker 11: feel like Ray Davis is going to be the Bills

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Speaker 11: rookie of the year. It's going to just force them

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Speaker 11: to stay level and keep Josh out of those you know,

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Speaker 11: hero ball situations. He the loss of Bryce Huff, Jordan Whitehead.

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Speaker 11: I don't underscore those at all. Those are bigger blows

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 11: than people realize. I just think the Bills are going

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 11: to be able to be a lot more stable and

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Speaker 11: not have to have that. You know, you see Josh

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01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 11: in that game, I see I feel effing Back cuts

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Speaker 11: his hair. Diggs gets his last touchdown his Bill the

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Speaker 11: next week in Philly, and that's that's really it. And

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Speaker 11: then the downturn and production comes. I think that they're gonna, like,

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Speaker 11: like Steve has been saying, they're gonna crescendo, like the

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Speaker 11: Packers crescendo last year. They got better as the year

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Speaker 11: went on. I feel like that's what you're going to see.

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Speaker 11: They're not going to be losing games of the Giants,

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Speaker 11: like the Packers lost a game to the Giants and

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Speaker 11: then it was a Sunday night game under they lost

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Speaker 11: the veto for God, and they almost go to the

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Speaker 11: NFC Championship game. It was crazy. I don't know if

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Speaker 11: they would have hosted that game. No, they would have

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Speaker 11: went to Detroit. But still I agree with you on that, Steven.

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Speaker 11: Thanks taking my call. Guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, thank you, Mark. Yeah, I mean it's not

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Speaker 2: your start to tell you finish And yeah, Steve and

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Speaker 2: I have kind of been knocking that subject around even

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Speaker 2: off air, just sitting in our office together, you know,

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Speaker 2: saying might not be a fast start like it's been

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01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: for so many years because of all that they do

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: have to pull together, particularly on the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball, but there are a lot of new elements

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01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,919
Speaker 2: on the playmaking side of the ledger on the offensive

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Speaker 2: side as well, so fitting all of that together takes time.

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Speaker 2: I think what will help carry them early is relatively

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Speaker 2: stable continuity on the offensive line. Your only change if

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Speaker 2: the projected starters do pan out is McGovern to center

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Speaker 2: and David Edwards the left guard. So you're changing two positions,

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Speaker 2: but there's only one new player in there, and he's

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Speaker 2: a player that plays a lot during the season last

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Speaker 2: year as a sixth offensive lineman in power situations. So

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Speaker 2: knowing you have that as your continuity, the quarterbacks the same,

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Speaker 2: the running backs the same, the tight ends are the same,

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Speaker 2: I think there's enough time to figure out what you

1440
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: need to figure out in terms of roles in the

1441
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: passing game, in the receiver room specifically, and still make

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Speaker 2: that work. I think what runs the risk of taking

1443
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: more time to blend gel and look like a well

1444
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: oiled machine is the defense that's right in the.

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Speaker 1: Early going, that's rights. And we've said this a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think defensively, they're going to be better athletically, if

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01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: not maturity wise. I mean, you had some guys long

1448
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Speaker 1: in the tooth in that secondary Tardavius, Micah Jordan. I mean,

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01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: those guys knew what was going on. They'd played together

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01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: a ton. Now you're going to change all those faces.

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Speaker 1: And certainly you've got Taron Johnson and now think about it,

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01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: Chris Benford's going to be a thirty year starter coming in.

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01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: You've got Kyrie Elam who's been in the system for

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Speaker 1: quite some time, Russuelle Douglass who came in and acclimated

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Speaker 1: extremely quickly last year. And you know, so these guys

1456
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: aren't just falling out of the sky, but playing together

1457
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: is a different kind of thing. And so I think

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Speaker 1: athletically they're going to be a step way, a step

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Speaker 1: ahead of where they were a year ago. And I

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Speaker 1: think that gives them a chance to crescendo, like we've

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Speaker 1: talked about throughout the as they get more and more

1462
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Speaker 1: reps under their belt game time, I think they'll crescendo

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Speaker 1: and get better and better than these season rolls on.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think the bounce back from the loss

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Speaker 2: of Tredevius White will be as extreme as that at

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Speaker 2: the safety positions, because in Tredevious White's last three years

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Speaker 2: in a Bill's uniform, he missed thirty games, thirty games

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Speaker 2: out of what was that almost fifty games because three

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Speaker 2: years ago was still sixteen games, and then the last

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Speaker 2: two years it's been seventeen. I think that's right. So

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Speaker 2: that's thirty four plus sixteen, it's like fifty games. So

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Speaker 2: it's best thirty of the last fifty games. I mean

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Speaker 2: they've played without him a ton already, right, So I

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Speaker 2: don't see that being a big change. The safeties are

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Speaker 2: is the group that really has to pull it together

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Speaker 2: and perform.

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Speaker 1: If Kyrie Elam manages to spread his wings now, new

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, new set of eyes on him, he gets

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Speaker 1: a chance to take some reps, they're immediately more athletic.

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Speaker 1: In the secondary, Tarren johnsonill still be there, Christian Benford

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01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: will still be there, Russeulle Douglas will be there, and

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Speaker 1: he may be the guy, the swing guy that sits

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Speaker 1: back and you know, as a veteran like he is.

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Speaker 1: He may be the guy that is the stop gap

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01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: or the situational guy, or maybe vice versa. But I

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Speaker 1: think you're immediately better athletically, and certainly the safeties. With

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Speaker 1: Mike Edwards coming over, he's probably at this point a

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Speaker 1: better athlete than Micah and Jordan So and Rap as

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Speaker 1: well and Cole Bishop. I mean, these guys are at

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Speaker 1: athletes back there now, so that gives them a chance

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Speaker 1: to overcome any hesitation where they may not see it

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Speaker 1: like a veteran would see it.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, But if you have mail

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Speaker 2: bag questions to ask, we are here to answer them

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Speaker 2: at three zero five fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 2: point fifty two five point fifty. Got to crack open

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Speaker 2: that tweetsheet as well when we come back here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Klida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hi,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you. I haven't really discussed much about the schedule stuff.

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Speaker 2: We did a lot of that yesterday, but now that

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01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 2: some analysts and analytics people have had a chance to

1503
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Speaker 2: kind of dive into it headlong, there are some interesting

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Speaker 2: things that have been uncovered. We mentioned one with our

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Speaker 2: guest Sam Monson earlier in the hour. You know, the

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01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 2: three games in ten days for the four teams playing

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01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: on Christmas. To me, that's ludicrous. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Warren Sharp from Sharp Football Analytics broke down some of

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01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: these elements and he said, after not scheduling three games

1510
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 2: in ten days for any team over the last five years,

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01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: the NFL scheduled this scenario for nine teams this year.

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: So it's not just the four teams on Christmas. There

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01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 2: are five other clubs dealing with the same scenario. For context,

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01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 2: In all the games of the last decade combined, there

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01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 2: were only two such sequences like this three games in

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01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: ten days, with none occurring in the last five years.

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01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 2: It occurs nine times this year alone.

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Speaker 1: Second Christmas on a Wednesday.

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01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 2: After not scheduling four games in seventeen days for any

1520
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: team for the last two years, the NFL scheduled this

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01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: scenario seven times for this year. For context, in the

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01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: prior five years, this sequence occurred five total times. It

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01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 2: occurs seven times this year. Throw the quality of the

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01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: football product to the wind, because I'm telling you four

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01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 2: games that Steve I don't have to tell you did

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01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 2: it for three games in ten days, yeah, I mean

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01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: even now, I mean the game isn't nearly as brutal

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01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: as it was when you played.

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01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: But the three games in ten days, yeah. To me.

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01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: The thing that bothers me about that the most isn't

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01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: that the number of games in ten games or seventeen games,

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01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: because it washes out at the end, because they'll get

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01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: a long bye week before or long bye week after,

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: because they're gonna play the same number of games in

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01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: the same number of weeks that everybody else. Is what

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01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: gets me is if those teams, if somebody, and I'll

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: exaggerate to make a point, if one team comes off

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01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: a four day rest and the other team comes off

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: in eleven day rest, that's a problem. And you always

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01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: get that a little bit with bye weeks, where a

1541
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: team coming off like the Bills playing the Niners, the

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01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: Bills get fourteen days arrest, thirteen days of rest and

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01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: the Niners get seven. Yeah, that's always coming off a

1544
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: buy for teams, unless both teams are coming off the buye.

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01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: That's always happened with the bye weeks. But that is

1546
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: the thing that I think is the most egregious problem. Now,

1547
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: we've talked about the Steelers and the Ravens and these

1548
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: teams playing on Christmas Day on a Wednesday. At least

1549
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: they did their best to make sure all of those

1550
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 1: teams were kind of in the same boat so that

1551
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: they're playing in the same field. So even if the

1552
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,520
Speaker 1: game turns out to be three to nothing Pittsburgh over Baltimore,

1553
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: at least it's a competitive game. Both teams have a shot.

1554
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: But when you come out and all of a sudden

1555
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 1: it turns into a game like the Dolphins and Broncos

1556
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: last year and it's seventy to twenty, you got a

1557
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: problem then, Now that's seventy to twenty was a different issue,

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01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: Wasn't a schedule is kind of anomally but you get

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01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: my point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think strength of schedule now, if you're

1561
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: going to really measure it, you got a factor in

1562
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: rest advantages and disadvantages. Now, is a team at a

1563
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: rest disadvantage compared to their opponent? How many days do

1564
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: they have to prepare for their game? How many does

1565
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: their opponent have? Are they coming off a road game

1566
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: on a short week? Team in this league, is their

1567
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 2: bye week edge negated. I mean, I remember in twenty

1568
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 2: thirteen the Bills. The Bills had six games against teams

1569
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: that had more rest than they did going into the game.

1570
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: And on top of that, the advantage gained in their

1571
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: bye week was negated because the team they were playing

1572
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: was coming off a Thursday night game. So that is

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01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: what the Niners are looking at this year because they're

1574
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: playing four teams coming off their bye week this year,

1575
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: four different teams.

1576
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got a minus twenty plus rest net rest

1577
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: differential this year. It's the worst one since I think

1578
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: somebody said two thousand and two or something like that.

1579
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean that they they are the Niners.

1580
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: The largest disadvantage in the last decade.

1581
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: They're playing a ton of teams coming off the by

1582
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: and it adds up the Ravens.

1583
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I have the number one largest net rest edge

1584
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: plus sixteen days and they estimate it's the largest in

1585
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 2: NFL history.

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01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a problem when and I'll say

1587
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: it again, in the same year they decided to play

1588
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: games on critwell, the second year they decided to play

1589
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: games on Christmas, it's on a Wednesday, And man, oh man,

1590
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: that's a problem.

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01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: I mean if you think about it, the difference between

1592
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 2: the Ravens and the forty nine ers. You're talking about

1593
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 2: a swing in rest edge of thirty seven.

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01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: Days a month. Yeah, that's not over the course of

1595
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, and that's just a

1596
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: week by week basis, So there's never you know what

1597
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean. So you're not getting a team that's rested

1598
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: for a month. That's not like that. But it's just

1599
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: it's a cumulative effect. Yeah, it's like two days extra

1600
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: rest per game during the season, thirty days. It's like

1601
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: every team got to rest nine days, you got to

1602
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: rest seven first eighteen straight weeks.

1603
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: And you're expected to win as many games.

1604
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: You're right, So that's that's wild. It is wild, and

1605
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I mean, certainly it mitigates the

1606
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 1: pushback that the league gets from the union and everybody

1607
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: else when you see the astronomical moneys that are being

1608
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: paid and you realize it's going to get to the players.

1609
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: You know, half of it's going to the players through

1610
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: the salary cap, and they'll feel it and they get it.

1611
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: So I'm fine with it.

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01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: You did see the Netflix number, right, one hundred and

1613
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: fifty million.

1614
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: Each game or both.

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01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 2: I think for both.

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01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad. They made out, Yeah they did,

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01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: they did. I'll say this monster numbers on a Wednesday holiday,

1618
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: it may set records. I'm facts, we're gonna we're gonna

1619
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: over under that one. Yeah.

1620
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: I don't know how they measure that, because they don't

1621
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: have ratings for streaming services like they do the old

1622
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: Nielsen ratings, you know, for TV.

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01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: The numbers will be astronomical. Plus they'll say, we got

1624
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: what twenty five new twenty five million new members or

1625
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: subscribers or whatever. Whatever. They'll know they'll know exactly how

1626
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: many people.

1627
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 2: Have tools to measure it for sure.

1628
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: For sure.

1629
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: Let's jump back on the phone lines. We're going to

1630
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 2: go out to Brian in Hawaiian. What do you got

1631
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: for us?

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01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: Brian?

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01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 12: Hello, Ha, What I have for you today is I

1634
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 12: was curious these receivers that they bring in Scotlink Laypool,

1635
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 12: you know, Hamler and stuff. Are you guys aware do

1636
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 12: you have any inkling? Did they ever talk to any

1637
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 12: of these guys at like a Combine visit or a

1638
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 12: thirty visit that you guys are aware of? And then

1639
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 12: my next question is going back to Joe Brady and

1640
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 12: his day at LSU and stuff. Is he going to

1641
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 12: go five wide? That's all I got, thanks, guys.

1642
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't rule it out. I think

1643
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: there were a healthy number of instances last season where

1644
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: the Bills went empty backfield. Now it wasn't five true

1645
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 2: wide receivers. Usually it was James Cook or one of

1646
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: the backs, and a tight end was usually one of

1647
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 2: those five wide. It wasn't let's put five receivers on

1648
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: the field like run and shoot and go. But I

1649
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if we saw some of that. I

1650
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: just don't think it's always going to be right five

1651
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: receivers on the field.

1652
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: Some of that is dictated by what by what they

1653
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: believe the defensive look will be. If they do put

1654
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: five wides on the field, they may want the defense

1655
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 1: to think they're in a base set, like with Kincaid

1656
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: Cook and three wides or Kincaid Cook knocks and three

1657
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: wides and two wides, I'm sorry, And then spread them

1658
01:25:53,800 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 1: out and use Khalil and Dalton in the slots in

1659
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: side of Sanders and Coleman, and then have you know,

1660
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Cook in the backfield or a single back or maybe

1661
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: split him out as wide as well, so the personnel

1662
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: may be more closely relied related to base personnel and

1663
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: then spread him out all over the field. But if

1664
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: you go five wide, you get a different defense. And

1665
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: that's what that will predicate on. And I'm sure Joe

1666
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: Brady wouldn't mind doing any of that stuff. If he

1667
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: feels he's got an edge to do it, they'll put

1668
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: it in and they'll they'll run it. The simple fact

1669
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: of the matter is sometimes the benefit is not there.

1670
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: Now with a unicorn like Josh, he may turn if

1671
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: you go five wide, he may it may turn into

1672
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: a running game where Josh runs it twenty five times.

1673
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: And I don't know that all of us are really

1674
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: be comfortable with that, even if you win the game.

1675
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: But that's what you're kind of looking at, right. So

1676
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 1: there's that. And yes, most of these wide receivers will

1677
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: have had a conversation when they can him out in

1678
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: the draft or where they where they talk to him

1679
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: even in the off season, or if they brought him in.

1680
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: Certainly Curtis Samuels had has had some.

1681
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: He was a second round pick. He's got every team

1682
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: probably met with him.

1683
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: Right, so everybody met with him, so all these guys

1684
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: pretty Chase Clay place with a ton of guys. He's

1685
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: the second round pick. So yes, a lot of these

1686
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: teams have had conversations with these guys, or at least

1687
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: somebody on their staff have had conversations or were in

1688
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: the room when they had the conversation. So yes, they

1689
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: do talk to these guys at length in the interview

1690
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 1: process before they sign a contract.

1691
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here. We'll get some

1692
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: final thoughts on the tweets sheet questions I should say

1693
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: and see if we can answer those next here on

1694
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live.

1695
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: Stay with us.

1696
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 2: All right back here on on Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

1697
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, diving into the mailbag for a

1698
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: couple of questions. Here at the end, John asks, I've

1699
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: read very positive stories about the strength and conditioning coaches

1700
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 2: for the Chargers, especially Ben Herbert. His goal is to

1701
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 2: strengthen for injury prevention. I wonder if the Bills have

1702
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: such a program in light of the toll injuries took

1703
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 2: in the playoffs last season. Yeah, John, I could tell

1704
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 2: you that the strength and conditioning staff led by Eric Ciano,

1705
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: the athletic training staff led by Nate Preski and the

1706
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: sports science staff led by Joe Collins. They are at

1707
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 2: the forefront of the league in every way, shape or

1708
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: form on injury prevention. The Chargers had an annual perennial

1709
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 2: problem with injuries to their best players every single year,

1710
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,480
Speaker 2: year over year. It was an epidemic with the Chargers organization.

1711
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: What we experienced with the Bills last year was something

1712
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 2: that's going to happened due to the law of averages

1713
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: in the way football is played. In my opinion, I

1714
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: know the year before they had some injuries too, but

1715
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: the two years prior to that they were the most

1716
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 2: injury free team in football.

1717
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: And the reason the reason you read stories about Ben

1718
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Herbers because he's a new guy. Yeah, and you know

1719
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: they did a story on him. The Chargers had cleaned

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01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 1: house because they stunk at staying healthy and have for

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01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 1: a long time now.

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Speaker 2: Jeff asks, Hey, tasker, is this the year Allen wins MVP.

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01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. On an MVP favorites list, he

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Speaker 2: was sixth between Tua and I got it right here.

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01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,520
Speaker 1: He was sixth. Though he'll be in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: He'll always be in the conversation. I think that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all all he can say.

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01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's all we're gonna say for today's show

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01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: because we're at a time.

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Speaker 1: And the weekend. Have a great weekend, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the great weather's finally here. I don't think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have any more hiccups.

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01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 1: So that's what.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, we'll see a Monday for the start of OTAs.

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Speaker 2: We'll have full coverage here on One Bill's Live. We'll

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Speaker 2: see it one p m.

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