Speaker 1: What's up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses Malone. He kind of came up with the
Speaker 1: idea for today.
Speaker 2: Move about people that take care of you.
Speaker 1: So two people who really support the stream, Pete Pete
Speaker 1: been gone, but everybody knows to lunch our stream. That's
Speaker 1: the accessory piece to No Simils podcast. We started by
Speaker 1: me and Pete where we did it every Monday, Wednesday
Speaker 1: and Friday for free. Yes, like you've been doing all
Speaker 1: of this for free and it's like you're building something
Speaker 1: but you don't quite know what you're building. But it's
Speaker 1: a commitment to have these discussions openly. And Pete, you
Speaker 1: know life made people are right turn So we can't
Speaker 1: really commit to that right now, but you know, we
Speaker 1: still managed to do the podcast on these days that
Speaker 1: we need to for people's audio.
Speaker 2: But two people place orders at the cryptstore dot com.
Speaker 1: Make sure you head over if you're listening to the
Speaker 1: Note Sellers podcast, head over to the cryptstore dot com www.
Speaker 2: Dot Doug cryptstore dot com. Got a bunch of new ideas.
Speaker 2: Pete gave me some new ideas.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be really good. We actually gonna open up
Speaker 1: a brick and mortar CCS, which is kind of cool,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But two people who really
Speaker 1: support this thing that me and pe started ordered some
Speaker 1: merch right. Shout out to Fatima, shout out to Nick.
Speaker 3: Shout out to those two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, caricatures of us and King got this
Speaker 1: thing with being famous, and it's really.
Speaker 4: Here where you go you store with throwing that in there.
Speaker 1: Well, it's important that because I know that's your heart's desire.
Speaker 5: Oh, you want to give context to what you're about
Speaker 5: to say.
Speaker 3: He's like a black Kardashian.
Speaker 4: Yeah he is. Oh, Pete, we're done.
Speaker 2: We're the King Kardashian.
Speaker 5: One thing we don't do is refer me to women.
Speaker 3: We're the King, the senior lawyer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the father is a Kardashian.
Speaker 4: Oh the lawyer Dudeah, okay, I'll be the lawyer, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'll be the lawyer.
Speaker 2: Dude, King Kardashian.
Speaker 4: Good cats.
Speaker 1: So anyway, like, I know that's important to him, but
Speaker 1: because he's always supported me, it's important for me to
Speaker 1: make sure that he accomplishes something that's means something to him.
Speaker 2: And Fatima and Nick Fatima.
Speaker 1: Who moderates the check She's she's always encouraging people to
Speaker 1: like subscribe, you know, she really works. And Squishy is
Speaker 1: like my first to me Pete, our first real hardcore supporter.
Speaker 2: That you know what I mean. I knew that reached
Speaker 2: out to me and said, I really support what you do.
Speaker 3: And she's transcended into like the production role. She cornered
Speaker 3: role for herself. Yes, yeah, she even handled a greater
Speaker 3: role in this than I do.
Speaker 2: Now, sweet right out squeish. She came to Denver for
Speaker 2: a concert I was.
Speaker 1: Doing fort support though. That's really shout out to big
Speaker 1: motherfucking Pump. Pump is a female truck driver. She listens
Speaker 1: to the No Sellers podcast as well. She always dms
Speaker 1: me on Instagram. Rest in peace to her mom or
Speaker 1: mom passed away. She hadn't really reached out to me,
Speaker 1: but she had been listening. She was just telling me
Speaker 1: how much better the podcast has gotten over time. And anyway,
Speaker 1: I say all this because Nick and Fatima. Nick who supports,
Speaker 1: he gives coach shit all the time, but he supports
Speaker 1: the podcast, and he created these dope characters and he
Speaker 1: ordered something and he's been cool because I haven't shipped
Speaker 1: his order. I didn't realize I shipped it because I
Speaker 1: shipped a bunch of orders and I'm just overwhelmed. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna just give him two or
Speaker 1: three shirts. I'm gonna give him a bunch of CDs.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him a vinyl because he always show love.
Speaker 1: And same for Fatima. I'm like, she ordered a merch
Speaker 1: pack of the Cancer right, which is the shirt and
Speaker 1: the CD, and I'm like, yeah, we're gonna throwing a
Speaker 1: vinyl some more CDs because I was telling King, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you have to take care of the people that take
Speaker 1: care of you, And it's the same thing with you, Pete,
Speaker 1: like I have to figure it out. It puts another
Speaker 1: pressure on you to figure it out with people, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean to where it's like you want
Speaker 1: to make people. They're helping you, so you want to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to help them.
Speaker 5: Facts.
Speaker 3: Something occurred to me just a moment ago. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be did you ever see the old movie called Dirty
Speaker 3: Work with Norm MacDonald.
Speaker 2: Or is that when he was a butler?
Speaker 3: No, it's where he opened up a brick and mortar
Speaker 3: store to offer revenge services with already the guy from
Speaker 3: Howard Stern.
Speaker 2: No, I never saw that.
Speaker 3: I was saying, you could pair offering crypt merchandise with
Speaker 3: selling crypt services out of the crypt store.
Speaker 2: Oh, Man, definitely sounds interesting.
Speaker 4: Oh don't do it, Pete, don't don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: I don't run the store.
Speaker 4: See, I'm going to run the store, Pete. I'm going
Speaker 4: to run the store.
Speaker 5: Pete don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, in that case, we'll just we'll shelve this idea.
Speaker 2: Man, with the brick and mortar.
Speaker 1: Is more of a vinyl thing, you know, all the
Speaker 1: way from you know, the Tone Loaks, the comps is
Speaker 1: most wanted's, you know, coming forward to the little Babies,
Speaker 1: the Vince Staples, just a bunch of different vinyls.
Speaker 5: I think it's a great idea, like to do all
Speaker 5: the crib vinyls and music like that. I think that's
Speaker 5: kind of like a great idea.
Speaker 1: And to have some cool merch nothing that's you know,
Speaker 1: a blood could walk in the store and it wouldn't
Speaker 1: offend them, bother them. But you can notice that there
Speaker 1: is a lot of information about crips here.
Speaker 3: And with all due respect to these guys because I
Speaker 3: like them and they're very popular and successful quick in
Speaker 3: the game. Probably won't be able to have their vinyls
Speaker 3: in the store. That would be very funny. Went out
Speaker 3: of your way to make it really obvious that their
Speaker 3: stuff wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Man have everything around them.
Speaker 1: No, I thought about partnering up with like two eleven
Speaker 1: shout out to mommy to eleven from Inglewood from NHP
Speaker 1: cup brother I always you know, looked out, always thought
Speaker 1: he was a special MC, like a big fan of
Speaker 1: two eleven, and he has a really dope store where
Speaker 1: the service spoon is, and.
Speaker 2: Like, maybe I'll partner with him to do something like that.
Speaker 1: But you know, my brother has done a really good
Speaker 1: job shout out the k style of making sure that
Speaker 1: I make it a place that's closer to a museum
Speaker 1: and ideal where you could come in and get information,
Speaker 1: and then taking a page out of nickbook making it
Speaker 1: a smart store where you could probably get information on
Speaker 1: different things related to the topic. So I'm excited about it. Simple,
Speaker 1: like really simple. I've been talking to King. It'll probably
Speaker 1: be a place that you could come get seven grams
Speaker 1: a week for twenty five dollars for you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like just this smoking deal of top quality
Speaker 1: stuff just because I feel like.
Speaker 2: We need we need strain eventually, but we need more.
Speaker 1: Like as a hip hop artist, I think we've been
Speaker 1: spoiled by mainstream America so much that we forgot the
Speaker 1: black market was the greatest you know, associate when it
Speaker 1: came to marketing hip hop, and we've almost turned our
Speaker 1: back on it.
Speaker 3: And just for clarity's sake, the black market being the
Speaker 3: African American consumer market or the underground market.
Speaker 1: The underground market, oh for sure, sure, No, no, not
Speaker 1: the black man. That's a great point, the black market,
Speaker 1: not the black man's market, but the black market. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's been missing. I feel like that's been missing.
Speaker 1: I feel like hip hop has been suffering to some degree.
Speaker 1: It is doing well, you know, at the elite level,
Speaker 1: but it's suffering because we've disconnected the black market from it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I was telling King, like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is an idea, like where you can
Speaker 1: get seven grams a week for twenty five great week,
Speaker 1: no fuck fucking dispensary.
Speaker 3: It would be kind of interesting to do, like like
Speaker 3: a regional like say all the Long Beach artists in
Speaker 3: like an omar section to look like VIP Records, and
Speaker 3: then something else that would look like a place that
Speaker 3: was in another part of town that had a similar impact,
Speaker 3: or vice versa. You know what I'm saying, Ooh.
Speaker 4: Like, Pee, don't do it, Pete, I love it.
Speaker 3: That would really give King a lot to do.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love it, Pete, I love it, I really do.
Speaker 5: I love it. I love that idea.
Speaker 1: No Seller's podcast last is Low Peter Boss in the house.
Speaker 1: I'm my big brother King here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I thought about that taking care of the people
Speaker 1: that take care of you. So people that support the stream,
Speaker 1: right the lunch hour stream or this podcast, you want
Speaker 1: to take care of them. And I was just saying
Speaker 1: that to King, And the more I think about it,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like my fundamental value.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, Like you already got to take care of
Speaker 2: people who don't take care of you.
Speaker 1: Explain that one well, because you know, you have obligations
Speaker 1: if you're a parent, if you're a family member, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if you're a friend.
Speaker 2: It's certain people that.
Speaker 1: Will never do anything for you in those positions, and you.
Speaker 4: Feel obligated to still take care of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's your existence.
Speaker 1: Like I truly believe you define yourself by your actions,
Speaker 1: not anybody else's actions.
Speaker 5: I think I'll stop at the parents till about eighteen.
Speaker 5: After that, there's no obligation with anybody else.
Speaker 2: It depends on the kind of person you are.
Speaker 4: Now you see why they paint me mean and mad?
Speaker 3: Yes, got it right.
Speaker 4: You see why they paint me mean and mad?
Speaker 5: You got it right?
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: You already have the people that you didn't get to select,
Speaker 1: but when people select you, you.
Speaker 2: Really got to do right by them.
Speaker 1: I agree, because people will select you and you don't
Speaker 1: know why, what I mean, So you got to do
Speaker 1: right by the people that select you.
Speaker 5: I agree to anybody that helps you, you know, to me,
Speaker 5: it's an obligation to do something to try to make
Speaker 5: their life better, you know, happier, or something that I
Speaker 5: could try to do to show my appreciation. And it's
Speaker 5: just showing appreciation, you know, for what they've done for me,
Speaker 5: our thought about me, that's all.
Speaker 2: And it comes into what do they want? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like like you fight it, but you there's a desire
Speaker 1: to have famous is so cheaply said that it comes
Speaker 1: with a negative connotation does, but it is true in
Speaker 1: your position, like your voice needs to be heard because
Speaker 1: it's a rational that matters, and I think that is Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if a claim is what it is,
Speaker 1: it's much more deeper. I don't think he King really
Speaker 1: cares about a claim as much as bastards.
Speaker 5: Now, I really don't care about money like that. But
Speaker 5: money is a tool to me to be used a
Speaker 5: certain way. Yeah, you know. And if I want to
Speaker 5: help people without trying to cry to other people to
Speaker 5: help me help people, then I need to make the
Speaker 5: money myself.
Speaker 4: And it's just that simple. Y, that's a fact.
Speaker 2: So I know that's important.
Speaker 1: So and then you start to notice people around you,
Speaker 1: your friend's talents, right, and King has a talent that
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, it's ever really been nurtured,
Speaker 1: Like he's a.
Speaker 5: Don't you say, don't you don't you good?
Speaker 4: I'm a people person. Let's just say that I.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't really call you a people person all.
Speaker 4: Because of Nick painted that picture of me looking angry.
Speaker 2: No, No, I just think you have very short tolerance
Speaker 2: for people.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I'm getting older. I got very short talents
Speaker 5: for bullshit.
Speaker 2: And people equals bullshit.
Speaker 4: Yes, you're right, And even.
Speaker 1: When I first met you, you wasn't necessarily the most
Speaker 1: tolerant person people.
Speaker 5: No's a loving guy.
Speaker 1: Well, love and loving, not tolerance. They don't have to
Speaker 1: be like polar opposite, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: It don't mean like because you are no nonsense, Cause
Speaker 1: I just I wouldn't say somebody that's a no nonsense
Speaker 1: kind of guy as.
Speaker 2: A people person.
Speaker 1: You actually to be a people person, you have to
Speaker 1: be very open to nonsense. Yeah, but you are silly
Speaker 1: and you don't mind people being silly, but nonsense and
Speaker 1: you are no nonsense kind of guy.
Speaker 4: No, that's you. I think he's trying to pay me
Speaker 4: as him Pete.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm.
Speaker 3: Think you're a leader of men and you uphold a standard.
Speaker 3: I would describe you as the nick Saban of crips.
Speaker 2: There you go talking about you that I'm.
Speaker 3: King King said the phrase led a prison riot on
Speaker 3: a previous podcast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 3: That's a leader of men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a natural thing. But he King is more
Speaker 1: than no nonsense. He's just no nonsense. I wouldn't describe
Speaker 1: him as a people person. I think I do think
Speaker 1: he's not like he's not like an anti social person, Pete.
Speaker 4: I'm a people person.
Speaker 5: You could put me anywhere in this world, and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna survive because people are gonna help me because they
Speaker 5: I'm just a nice guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that means you're a people OK,
Speaker 2: A little.
Speaker 5: No glasses is right. I'm okay with being in my house.
Speaker 5: If I have everything I need in my house, I
Speaker 5: really don't have to go outside and deal with people.
Speaker 5: That's the truth. Yes, that that's a fact. Yes, you know,
Speaker 5: but I go out there and deal with people because
Speaker 5: I know you make any help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you make it work, you know.
Speaker 4: I think I think so. He kind of right, though
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I think your experience with people is making it work.
Speaker 1: Like I'm stuck with these people.
Speaker 2: Let else, you know, let me help.
Speaker 3: It's a helpful someone who enjoys people or someone who people.
Speaker 4: Enjoy I enjoy watching people.
Speaker 5: I love to sit back and just watch people just
Speaker 5: do the stupidest ship in front of you.
Speaker 3: That shouldn't take long at least, So that's good to say.
Speaker 4: You're just looking around, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: Oh you gotta just walk out the door and just
Speaker 5: look don't you have to turn on your TV or phone.
Speaker 4: Just walk outside you'll see it. Yeah right, I told.
Speaker 5: Glasses, I'm beginning to think this world is flat. All
Speaker 5: that around and going to the space and ship. You know,
Speaker 5: I went to uh to us uh the Space Center
Speaker 5: and stuff when I was in Florida and looked at
Speaker 5: all the NASA stuff. Okay, they want me to believe
Speaker 5: that that Space Shuttle went up there wrapped with a quill.
Speaker 4: It's fabric wrapped around the Space shuttle.
Speaker 3: Oh, like the flame retarding or whatever.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: When they when I seen that, I said, now, okay,
Speaker 5: this is bullshit. They said, thank the ladies that quoted
Speaker 5: the outside of the Space shuttle. Man, get the fuck
Speaker 5: out of here.
Speaker 4: I'm done.
Speaker 5: The world is flat. Okay, go ahead, Glass. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: but that's just a funny shit.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fucking talking about. I don't
Speaker 2: know what's happening.
Speaker 1: I was just saying, I don't think he's much of
Speaker 1: a people person, but I think he understands how to
Speaker 1: deal with people.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, but I think that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like as I get older, I get
Speaker 1: a lot more honoring and about less bullshit?
Speaker 4: Why you say honre? Won't you just say your tolerance
Speaker 4: changes is necessarily honre that you get because first is
Speaker 4: the definition of honre to you?
Speaker 3: Uh, the guy in the square just to his left, your.
Speaker 5: Stupid Piete, right, Pete, So there's only one honor person
Speaker 5: in this group?
Speaker 4: Okay, Pete didn't already claimed that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm starting a movement. Anybody could be as honery
Speaker 3: as they want, not as honorary as me, but as
Speaker 3: honorary as they can.
Speaker 4: Okay, Pete, what is definition in the honre?
Speaker 3: I am just assumptive that circumstance and my surroundings and
Speaker 3: anyone around me is going to piss me off almost immediately.
Speaker 3: So I'm just counting down the seconds and waiting to
Speaker 3: realize the prejudicial negative response that I am going to have.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so you already know you have a negative one. Oh?
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4: But I don't think glasses does that.
Speaker 2: Well, it's called is bad tempered and combative?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like, I'm not really bad tempered.
Speaker 2: In my mind.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think I'm combative, but I mean I think
Speaker 1: because I was on ADHD yesterday, well, no, I was
Speaker 1: in the Homie John space. Well Adhd, same thing, all
Speaker 1: the same thing. Shout out the trap, shout out to
Speaker 1: John John. And we were having a conversation about culture.
Speaker 1: And I was explaining to brother Gary's good brother from Georgia,
Speaker 1: from Atlanta, got his stuff together, you know graduate, you know,
Speaker 1: I think bachelors and masters, really smart brother. And I
Speaker 1: was explaining to him that truly culture, you know, ninety
Speaker 1: percent of culture comes from poor people. Like when you
Speaker 1: have opportunities to do anything, when you have money, people
Speaker 1: don't do the same thing. They could do whatever they want. Now,
Speaker 1: there is some traditions and norms their aspects of culture,
Speaker 1: but it's not a complete livelihood that that is experienced
Speaker 1: because economics create you know, options. And I was explaining
Speaker 1: that to him and ended up spinning up into this
Speaker 1: conversation because I think he's more of a more well black,
Speaker 1: affluent background. And we start talking about the contributions to culture,
Speaker 1: you know, or black cultures by HBCUs and different things.
Speaker 1: And I noticed in that conversation everything that I was
Speaker 1: saying was not being heard, like it wasn't being listened to.
Speaker 1: It was being acknowledged that I said something, and how
Speaker 1: it sounded and everybody would respond back to me, well,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're saying and I'm like, well, why
Speaker 1: not repeat back to me what I'm saying. And people
Speaker 1: felt like the conversation was this ingenuous versus me learning
Speaker 1: at that time, like two.
Speaker 3: Frays or what's one of two phrases that drives me crazy?
Speaker 3: It sounds like you're saying and so what you mean
Speaker 3: is It's like, no, I said what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I was explaining to them. I was explaining to
Speaker 1: the people. I'm like, no, I'm saying, what do people
Speaker 1: at HBCUs do culturally? Like what's the complete behavior? And
Speaker 1: they were talking to me about saying divine nine and
Speaker 1: they kept talking to me like I knew it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: And Walter, you know, good brother, Walter, and.
Speaker 1: And and and it's shot te for debating about Black
Speaker 1: Greek associations.
Speaker 2: And again, they don't have HBCUs on the West coast.
Speaker 2: I don't know if any.
Speaker 3: I can't have any of them out of the traditional
Speaker 3: South maybe fringe state.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I wouldn't know because that is something
Speaker 1: in southern, you know, United States of America.
Speaker 2: That's something.
Speaker 3: Thatsation, isn't I mean, am I missing something?
Speaker 2: You said?
Speaker 3: Who it's it's a response to segregation. So it would
Speaker 3: be in states that have segregation, right, that would make
Speaker 3: sense to me.
Speaker 5: If I if I answered Pete, They'll say I'm angry again.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: Was launched by white people and stuff.
Speaker 5: You know Spilman's you know, Rockefeller's wife is Spilman, that's
Speaker 5: her name. You know, in places like that Morehouse and
Speaker 5: all them guys. Is was from these people that was segregated.
Speaker 5: But they wives and stuff wanted to help the slaves
Speaker 5: and stuff. So to me, it's a whole other society
Speaker 5: that's out of street urban culture.
Speaker 2: Well I mean not even street urban culture, just in
Speaker 2: black culture.
Speaker 5: This black culture, Okay, I can believe.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying to them, what is the lively, what's
Speaker 1: the behavior? And he started running down specifically what the
Speaker 1: Alphas do? Yees, yeah, And I didn't I think in
Speaker 1: his mind, I was supposed to understand that the Alphas
Speaker 1: was a part of Divine nine. I thought Divine nine
Speaker 1: was a gang or something or a group of I
Speaker 1: don't know. And by the end of the conversation, somebody
Speaker 1: was saying glasses. The fact that you acting like you
Speaker 1: have you you saw the film, you saw the film
Speaker 1: Stump the Yard, or you saw the film School Days,
Speaker 1: and you act like you don't have no idea, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never watched the film. It felt like
Speaker 1: I had information about that, right, I think. I think
Speaker 1: films are for entertainment. It's like me watching a Mafia
Speaker 1: movie thinking I understand what's happening in the inner workings
Speaker 1: of the Mafia. It's like these like this is entertainment.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 5: They don't see it. Like you said, you grew up
Speaker 5: around as people. Remember, people look at movies and think
Speaker 5: that's real. You know, that's the real way things is,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: But I don't know who's wrong, Like I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know how could they feel so empowered by a
Speaker 1: piece of entertainment that was meant to entertain And That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I remember explaining to them I
Speaker 1: didn't really learn hip hop and like until twenty eighteen nineteen,
Speaker 1: and they like, les's that means you haven't. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I've been listening to hip hop albums or rap albums
Speaker 1: since I was a little an infant, like I can
Speaker 1: remember Rappers Delight like I was born when Rappers Delight
Speaker 1: came out, you know what I mean, same year. I
Speaker 1: remember the Message, I remember Breaking when it first came out.
Speaker 1: I remember Crush Groove, I remember all that. But I
Speaker 1: didn't feel I understood hip hop because I listened to
Speaker 1: ll cooj Bad album at six.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like I knew what it was.
Speaker 5: You didn't feel like you knew New York or understood.
Speaker 1: No No, or what was happening breaking, Like, yes, I
Speaker 1: saw O's on the turbo dancing, but.
Speaker 2: I didn't think I understood what breaking was about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think as human beings, right, there is
Speaker 1: some arrogance in how information is received and what you
Speaker 1: know about said thing. Because you go watch an entertainment
Speaker 1: piece like a film, and then like how people do
Speaker 1: with gang banging and Colors. They'd be like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you about Colors because they saw Dennis Hopper's film Colors,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, you don't know nothing about gang
Speaker 1: bang And they feel entitled to to speak because they
Speaker 1: saw film, and they was mad at me because I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I care a little bit too much about my people
Speaker 1: to act like I know what's going on in those
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and those circumstances. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell is going on, you know in HBCU's.
Speaker 1: I just know that they are none here. I know
Speaker 1: some names, right, Spellman, Warhouse, Howard. My niece went to Howard.
Speaker 1: You know, I know a couple names of the schools,
Speaker 1: but I can't. And I do know they started because
Speaker 1: brothers couldn't. They wasn't being admitted into private white institutions.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't know about HBCUs. I don't care
Speaker 1: how many films I saw. They talking about different world.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I saw that once or twice maybe, but
Speaker 1: I still wouldn't feel like I knew something about HBCU's
Speaker 1: because I saw that television show.
Speaker 2: And people was upset.
Speaker 1: Like the arrogance of y'all to believed because you saw
Speaker 1: a film you understand what's going on, shows a lack
Speaker 1: of care for people, and like, I don't, just.
Speaker 3: Bluntly speaking, wasn't in the room at all. I don't
Speaker 3: think they would have assumed that I understood HBCUs. Had
Speaker 3: I seen that movie one time and if I had
Speaker 3: an opinion about it, they probably like, well, what you're
Speaker 3: talking about?
Speaker 2: You saw the movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and it blew me away, like like
Speaker 1: I just handle things with a lot more care, bro,
Speaker 1: I really do, I really do. And I think it's
Speaker 1: frustrating to people because I care to know more than
Speaker 1: what has been given to us through mainstream information.
Speaker 5: I got a question for you, you know, and I
Speaker 5: would have asked them, you know, like the movies like
Speaker 5: School Days or Stopped the Yard. Do they think that
Speaker 5: gave you know, hps use the best image? Because when
Speaker 5: I think by School Days and Stop the Yard, I
Speaker 5: think about a bunch of motherfuckers just partying and not
Speaker 5: taking it serious and damn to have gangs themselves, but
Speaker 5: they just haven't dance offs.
Speaker 2: When I went and saw Stop the Yard, all I
Speaker 2: remember was Nigga's dancing.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It was like does a gift the HBUs HBCUs the
Speaker 5: like that they act like, Hey, this is what we're about.
Speaker 5: You know, if you watch this movie, you should know
Speaker 5: what we're about. Is that the image they're trying to portray?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, so I don't know nothing about it,
Speaker 1: but again, and I think it comes across the people
Speaker 1: like I'm trolling because I don't have that perspective, or
Speaker 1: it comes across like I'm hating because like I don't
Speaker 1: mind critiquing somebody even if we're okay, or like I'm
Speaker 1: focused on my space, like on what I am.
Speaker 4: Thinking about HBCUs. I never heard you say anything about.
Speaker 2: HP because I don't know much about HBCUs.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, so, how you trolling on that?
Speaker 2: Because people expect need to know. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm expected to know about all
Speaker 1: this shit I don't know about.
Speaker 3: Huh have you ever performed at NHBCUS?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, My brand of currique may not be what the
Speaker 1: institution desires at their location.
Speaker 2: So even though it should, because I can articulate.
Speaker 1: Look, if hip hop is street urban culture personified through
Speaker 1: these arts or elements, right MCDN, I would be possibly
Speaker 1: the greatest and most articulate voice in Southern California's illustrious
Speaker 1: street urban culture that they call gang banging. I would
Speaker 1: probably be the most well explained, well understanding, and well
Speaker 1: informed artists of all artists. But you would have to
Speaker 1: respect that it could be intellect in cripping and blooding
Speaker 1: and I don't think people are ready to deal in
Speaker 1: that thought. That is, like I could tell when I
Speaker 1: put out Tupac mus Die. It messed people up because
Speaker 1: in their mind it was so easy just to write
Speaker 1: it off as a disdain or hatred, and then somebody
Speaker 1: could articulate the perspective and even more, even more, what's
Speaker 1: more scary is make you think to yourself, damn, I
Speaker 1: might have done the same thing if I was in
Speaker 1: that position. And people don't want to have that perspective.
Speaker 1: I mean they want to be able to write off
Speaker 1: crips and bloods like, oh, you guys are dumb.
Speaker 2: You're fighting over colors and property you don't own.
Speaker 1: Like King said, right here, and listen to me talk
Speaker 1: to one of my homeboys on death Road.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. He's doing a life sentence.
Speaker 1: It's been converted over and he heard me talk to
Speaker 1: him or another one of my older homies, and it
Speaker 1: would sound like I'm talking to my older brother. Right,
Speaker 1: were just having a conversation. And this man, throughout his
Speaker 1: warrior experience in gang banging, is articulate as fuck.
Speaker 2: He wrote a whole book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, not some dummy, but
Speaker 1: when you are raised in these said environments. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You kind of you almost have to
Speaker 1: behave like the natives to be okay. It takes a
Speaker 1: different mind to make you realize how many other options
Speaker 1: are outside of the options presented to you.
Speaker 5: But did Cookie write some books too? Yes, so you know,
Speaker 5: like those are the facts that people should be able
Speaker 5: to see, you know what I'm saying right there, But.
Speaker 1: In that like Monster, Cody's book is one of the
Speaker 1: better books ever written when it comes to Lost as
Speaker 1: a street culture, period, when it comes to any street
Speaker 1: urban culture. But I don't think people want to believe
Speaker 1: that there can be articulate members that are still involved
Speaker 1: in this life or understand it. So it's easy just
Speaker 1: to write it off. It's easy just to write it
Speaker 1: off like ignorance. And like you can ask.
Speaker 3: People you're dealing with also academia in this you know sense,
Speaker 3: it's like that's an outfit institutionally that is not very
Speaker 3: well prepared to be questioned. There are sociologists there that
Speaker 3: can't have holes poked into their very loose theories. Best
Speaker 3: just could be described by any critic.
Speaker 2: So you know, like.
Speaker 3: You would it would, it would be like confrontations I
Speaker 3: had with professors, not confrontations with debates in some of
Speaker 3: my justice studies classes. Times a thousand. They're just there's
Speaker 3: no desire at all to have of the veil of
Speaker 3: authority pierced in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: M But how do you feel so arrogant and in
Speaker 1: a particular subject if you have never done any true
Speaker 1: homework or research.
Speaker 3: That's why they hide behind letters next to their names.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at I mean, for fuck's sake, there's
Speaker 3: Marxist economists teaching economics on college campuses. I mean you are.
Speaker 4: Did you learn anything from them about HBCUs.
Speaker 1: Yes, I learned about the Alphas. I learned that they
Speaker 1: were the first black fraternity and.
Speaker 4: Pretty much cus or in America or in what.
Speaker 2: I mean for sure in HBCUs.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I don't know about all that,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a I'm not look, I don't have
Speaker 1: a Pete and Moot one day educated me on college.
Speaker 1: So crazy, I'm learning so much about college and I did,
Speaker 1: like I always felt I missed something with college. I disagree,
Speaker 1: But Pete and Luke really kind of said, no, gee,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more like academia. It's more you know,
Speaker 1: it's more glamor than actual substance in it all. So
Speaker 1: they kind of made me be like not quite got
Speaker 1: to be careful with that, Like he said, right now,
Speaker 1: people don't want to be challenged in those spaces. So
Speaker 1: I think I learned about what alphas. I think I
Speaker 1: came out of that conversation understanding like how my people
Speaker 1: go to these schools, right, and they established themselves and
Speaker 1: these organizations, and they become lifelong, They become lifelong friends
Speaker 1: or lifelong brothers.
Speaker 5: Okay, I got another question, the people do you think
Speaker 5: they support streets three over in culture?
Speaker 1: I mean somebody like puff Daddy went to Howard and
Speaker 1: I think he probably, I don't know.
Speaker 5: As a whole, not just you know, one or two people,
Speaker 5: but as a.
Speaker 1: Whole institutionally speaking, institutionally speaking, as a whole, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I would if I was gonna shoot from the hip
Speaker 3: on this, I would say internally no.
Speaker 5: Externally, yes, I think they appropriate the streets. Certain things
Speaker 5: are the streets they appropriate from the street urban culture
Speaker 5: into what they do.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: But that standard all the time, which is kind of
Speaker 1: the genesis of that conversation, which is like, bro people
Speaker 1: take from poor people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they talk shit about poor and.
Speaker 4: They don't want to admit that that's where they got
Speaker 4: it from.
Speaker 2: And he was just aeneously.
Speaker 3: They need to put at least in the black community,
Speaker 3: the more like it like a better word like oppressed
Speaker 3: part of the community out in front. Well, then simultaneously
Speaker 3: separating themselves from them. Yeah, in an elitist hierarchy.
Speaker 2: And that's what's happening the time. Yeah, I just talked
Speaker 2: about it in this rap. That was that line.
Speaker 1: All extortion talk wildly overblown. Rich niggas is supposed to
Speaker 1: help their own like, and it's like.
Speaker 2: It's like a.
Speaker 1: It's a false sense of care for people. Like if
Speaker 1: if let's say, the Jewish folks who led the March
Speaker 1: for reparations for the Holocaust, they were most likely Now
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, I would have to do some homework,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure the more financially savvy people led the
Speaker 1: march for reparations against different people in that situation, like
Speaker 1: they have to lead that march, and I don't think
Speaker 1: that's per se happening when it comes to Black America.
Speaker 1: The loudest voices in the reparations conversation are not the
Speaker 1: most successful Black people, and that is a big problem.
Speaker 1: That's a huge problem about that, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't hear Oprah Winfrey talk about reparations enough.
Speaker 2: You don't hear about Barack.
Speaker 5: Talk about your upper society of black people don't talk
Speaker 5: about reparations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be the loudest in the room.
Speaker 5: Are supporting it the most?
Speaker 1: I don't know if they supporting it, because you could
Speaker 1: support things in silence or private, right, you could be donating.
Speaker 5: So you would said they should be vocal.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well I'm not saying and they shit, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you they aren't, Okay, So I don't Again, that's kind
Speaker 1: of been my critique, like I don't think.
Speaker 2: The well to do brother.
Speaker 1: Really are you know, backing their people up, showing love
Speaker 1: to their people.
Speaker 2: I think they start to set.
Speaker 1: I'm watching it happen every day where I see some
Speaker 1: asshole on Instagram talking about it's a difference between black
Speaker 1: people and niggas. That is like one of the most
Speaker 1: frustrating things to ever that I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 1: When black people because white the white folk who call
Speaker 1: black people nigga, call all of them niggas, Like how
Speaker 1: did you slide yourself into this elitist white position and
Speaker 1: to where you're like, well, I'm not good.
Speaker 2: I'm a good, upstanding black folk, and y'all is niggas.
Speaker 5: They're all the same, the white people.
Speaker 2: If that word was to be used that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was every day were for everyone. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like if he was a doctor. He was like, well,
Speaker 2: he ain't a nigga.
Speaker 1: He a doctor, don't I don't think a white folk.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh he a doctor.
Speaker 2: He and a nigga.
Speaker 1: He's a doctor. No, he's a nigga doctor.
Speaker 2: Speaker.
Speaker 6: In most cases, probably himself was not a doctor because
Speaker 6: I could imagine Paul Pete, because I could imagine what
Speaker 6: Pete is listening, like, this should sound crazy, trying to.
Speaker 3: See if the if the Jewish restaurant called it came
Speaker 3: out of the Marshall Plan or how it was related
Speaker 3: to the Marshall Plan. And I was trying to read
Speaker 3: through a bunch of crap too fast.
Speaker 5: And I.
Speaker 2: Think the most successful brothers like Lebron James should be
Speaker 2: screaming it.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Oprah Winfrey with a platform should
Speaker 1: be streaming with screaming it.
Speaker 2: I think all the.
Speaker 1: Most successful black folks should be screaming, Hey, you need
Speaker 1: to repair the relationship with black amor America. You have
Speaker 1: to repair the relationship with Black America. This is a
Speaker 1: part of how it changes the way people see black
Speaker 1: people in America. It's you showing your commitment to repairing
Speaker 1: the things that you say were wrong in America. I
Speaker 1: think the loudest people in the room should be Will Smith.
Speaker 1: It should be you know, not just you know, celebrities,
Speaker 1: you know, anybody of note with the platform. That should
Speaker 1: be the conversation they're having. It should never feel like
Speaker 1: I got minds and that's what it is, and I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna and I ain't gonna say that because that
Speaker 1: they say.
Speaker 4: Though they say like I got mine, so you should
Speaker 4: be able to get yours.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what they say, but that's
Speaker 1: what it feels like.
Speaker 4: I heard people say that, at least to me.
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like.
Speaker 1: So it's a frustrating thing to watch people not take
Speaker 1: care of the people.
Speaker 2: It's a very frustrating thing.
Speaker 5: But you think these people lose their appreciate for how
Speaker 5: they got to where they are, and that's why they
Speaker 5: don't give back.
Speaker 1: I don't want to try to get into those people
Speaker 1: heads of what's happening. Okay, in general, if I had
Speaker 1: to have a thought, I think there's a threat that
Speaker 1: if you start screaming it you don't.
Speaker 2: Have a problem.
Speaker 5: Oh, they'll take you down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because again, you know, somebody else is putting you
Speaker 1: in position, right, even if you're working your ass off, like,
Speaker 1: somebody has to put you in position. From a lack
Speaker 1: of better terms, the other side, they have to put
Speaker 1: you in position.
Speaker 3: And if you have to huh, and if you have
Speaker 3: enough money, it will inevidently become a cost to you
Speaker 3: more than a benefit to you.
Speaker 5: But in this sense, Pete, I don't even think it's
Speaker 5: gonna have to, you know, really deal with the money.
Speaker 5: If you could get all the poor people together to
Speaker 5: rally behind one thing, if you got a few people
Speaker 5: that do have, you know, means to get a few
Speaker 5: things done, I think the masses will override money in
Speaker 5: certain certain circumstances.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like I'm saying, like in the literal actual
Speaker 3: distribution of funds, if you have more than you would
Speaker 3: stand to be given in the check, then your capital
Speaker 3: erosion or taxes or these various ways it would come
Speaker 3: to balance that out on the on the books are
Speaker 3: going to end up detracting more than the check you
Speaker 3: receive in the mail.
Speaker 2: That's a whole other conversation. But I'm just saying white
Speaker 2: people don't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying I just think people are not
Speaker 1: doing a great job of that, of giving back, no,
Speaker 1: of taking care of their own like it's not about well,
Speaker 1: it's not about giving back.
Speaker 2: Like one of the.
Speaker 1: Biggest scams in America is like a philanthropy.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Why that's a scam because there is.
Speaker 1: No reason that somebody should have all of this, and
Speaker 1: there's people that have nothing. The fact that that's some
Speaker 1: kind of celebrated title is ridiculous.
Speaker 5: That they help people, it's.
Speaker 1: Not helping people, Like you get credit for helping people.
Speaker 3: But you are doing the helping to get the credit.
Speaker 4: M h.
Speaker 2: It's tricky.
Speaker 5: Like, well, I agree, you shouldn't have to get you know,
Speaker 5: awards for helping people. If you really want to help.
Speaker 2: People, why do you have a title to be a human?
Speaker 5: So I agree with that statement of you shouldn't have
Speaker 5: to get awards if you just want to healthy.
Speaker 1: Like, there's a title for being human. That's what being
Speaker 1: human is, right, The verb of being human is humane.
Speaker 1: Me and Pete tall about this. That's the verb of
Speaker 1: it to care about other people. Why do you need
Speaker 1: a fancy title? Like all of that shit just cap
Speaker 1: they ain't helping shit, But you're not really helping shit
Speaker 1: at that point, the fact that you have all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. And this goes into the conversation me and
Speaker 1: Pete have about capitalism, socialism and what's righting what's wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And there's another thing I'll be honest to say, I
Speaker 1: don't know enough about politics to.
Speaker 2: Have that conversation.
Speaker 1: Reading the small sample size of reading I've done, I
Speaker 1: think I'm a socialist by nature. I'm trying to transform
Speaker 1: or is it come form to a capitalist. It's really
Speaker 1: hard for me because it feels like it goes against
Speaker 1: my soul. Like right, it's like the last time I
Speaker 1: did things as a capitalist, I was selling drugs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think you also think of capitalists, like
Speaker 3: to say like human and humane as the capitalist as
Speaker 3: the noun form of the verb to capitalize, meaning to
Speaker 3: which has like a take advantage kind of connotation to it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and I hate that it does.
Speaker 3: You're right, and I don't really agree with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because it's it's not truly the definition. It's
Speaker 1: the feel of it. Yeah, and that and that don't
Speaker 1: have to be true. But again, it's like you would
Speaker 1: have to be educated. I couldn't have this conversation with you,
Speaker 1: which is why we never really have capitalist conversations because
Speaker 1: I'm not educated enough about any of these you know,
Speaker 1: economic models to go into it.
Speaker 3: And it's it's it's a term largely as we use
Speaker 3: it in the modern sense, that's the product of being
Speaker 3: defined by Karl Marks and his writings. So it's it's
Speaker 3: a skewed definition that is that I'm I'm a pro
Speaker 3: free market guy. That's all I described myself. Yeah, people.
Speaker 5: Do they even use capitalists, you know, in conversations now
Speaker 5: to describe things now, Like I haven't heard that word
Speaker 5: really use to describe economy or anything lately.
Speaker 3: Depends on the conversation. I guess if we listen to
Speaker 3: that mayoral candidate who's an open socialist talk enough times
Speaker 3: or what's his name for Vermont talk enough times? He
Speaker 3: would use the word capitalist, but.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm saying like years ago used to hear
Speaker 5: it all the time, twenty years ago, thirty years ago,
Speaker 5: they would just say capitalist, capitalist, capitalist, But now it's
Speaker 5: like not even you know, even brought up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think some of that's probably because now
Speaker 3: people started pushing back on demonization of capitalism with demonalization
Speaker 3: of socialism, and they just said, well, we don't want
Speaker 3: to be pushed back on, so we'll find a new word.
Speaker 5: True.
Speaker 2: The most I remember Martin Luther King would speak on reparations.
Speaker 2: He was a well to do brother, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: But you don't really have that conversation of you know,
Speaker 1: it's not happening, and you know, I don't really have
Speaker 1: to answer, you know, I just can see and feel
Speaker 1: things are not right.
Speaker 5: But you got the power to start the conversation like
Speaker 5: you're doing now, you know, in a different realm than
Speaker 5: what it's been talked about before. You know, now you
Speaker 5: actually bring it into this realm of hip hop, street
Speaker 5: urban talk. So you're doing what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But again you can't I'm not overvested in it,
Speaker 1: so I can't truly, you know, go too deep into
Speaker 1: the conversation like that.
Speaker 2: And that's the point, Like, I care too much about what.
Speaker 1: People have going on to misrepresent in my in those spaces,
Speaker 1: like I know what the fuck is going on because
Speaker 1: I got entertained by something at one time.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question. Do you fear or
Speaker 5: have a bad feeling of giving somebody the wrong info?
Speaker 1: No, I'm just not gonna do it. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. It's not a fear. But the
Speaker 1: things I don't.
Speaker 5: Know about bad if you give them the wrong info.
Speaker 2: Oh hell, I would imagine it feel like shit.
Speaker 5: Okay, well I'm talking about you personally.
Speaker 3: I can't given wrong info before. And that's I.
Speaker 1: Can't recall too many times I gave people wrong info,
Speaker 1: So you've payed close attention not to I'm really careful
Speaker 1: with what I tell people to do when they're asking
Speaker 1: me my opinion.
Speaker 3: I try to give considerations. What you mean, Pete, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to give somebody the answer. I just
Speaker 3: want to give somebody something that they can weigh against
Speaker 3: another option so they can have a more balanced take
Speaker 3: on a question.
Speaker 5: Peters.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's as benevolence as I get Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Peter's.
Speaker 5: Answer a question with a question, Okay for real?
Speaker 1: Sometimes that really is because you need more information. I
Speaker 1: totally give a pete, you know, saying like, sometimes you
Speaker 1: need more informations to have these discussions, and we don't
Speaker 1: have enough information, but we tend to wrap ourselves in
Speaker 1: the discussion.
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous as facts.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could give an open ended opinion, but
Speaker 1: if it's about your people, like you should really be
Speaker 1: careful so you never that's like me judging like affluent
Speaker 1: black existence, like I don't know what they doing, so
Speaker 1: I can't talk. Let's say, to Oprah situation. All I
Speaker 1: know is what I hear. I can't say if she
Speaker 1: supports the idea of reparations. I'm not saying she does
Speaker 1: it doesn't. I don't hear her say it. So therefore
Speaker 1: I'm going to be very specific. That's not something she's
Speaker 1: speaking about out all the time, or in my opinion,
Speaker 1: she's not speaking about.
Speaker 2: It enough to be in her position.
Speaker 1: Yes, but actually she's not speaking about it enough in
Speaker 1: public or to my liking, in public.
Speaker 5: So it's easier to say, you know, what they're not
Speaker 5: doing versus what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, because you don't know, and you would have
Speaker 1: to be arrogant to carry yourself like you know what's
Speaker 1: happening the things that I know specifically, like I know
Speaker 1: people lying about how much money they make in or
Speaker 1: what these deals are. And I say that I'm sure
Speaker 1: of that, but I'm also not going to say a
Speaker 1: million things that I'm not sure about.
Speaker 3: Why do people lie all the time then about that
Speaker 3: kind of shit? It's like this is it's it never ends.
Speaker 3: I mean, like this is going back to even like
Speaker 3: you know, like my like my favorite interview of all
Speaker 3: time were Pimpsy accuses the industry of lie about fake
Speaker 3: dope crisis. There's always a lie about how much shit.
Speaker 1: Just say that because it's entertaining, because they know it's
Speaker 1: easy at a time to say you got this much money,
Speaker 1: you paid this much money for a kilogram of cocaine.
Speaker 1: And Pimp is a real deep he like, I hear
Speaker 1: it all the time, but I don't think. I guess
Speaker 1: because I understand, well, I don't know who's right or wrong.
Speaker 1: Pimp's thing was like, bro, why are you lying about
Speaker 1: the price? My thing is like I thought we all
Speaker 1: know you learning about the price, so I could talk
Speaker 1: about it like everybody know you lying about the price.
Speaker 3: So he should have scolded the audience, why are you
Speaker 3: believing about this shit?
Speaker 5: What goes back to what you were saying earlier again, entertainment. Sure, people,
Speaker 5: you know, they just want entertainment. They just want magic,
Speaker 5: you know, and little number the truth is not magic.
Speaker 2: Well magic is not what people believe magic is.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, well truth to them is not magic. Yeah
Speaker 5: said that one, And.
Speaker 1: You can have this conversation a million times. But again,
Speaker 1: like you find yourself, you know, out it from those
Speaker 1: people because they like, well, you blowing up our tricks.
Speaker 1: You messing our tricks up, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like like in Ross position, You're like, man, Glass, you
Speaker 1: messing up my trick. I'm like, bro, like it's rick
Speaker 1: Ross is outside. But then I'm starting to realize how
Speaker 1: much people do not know when it comes to the
Speaker 1: street urban culture lifestyle.
Speaker 4: Really, a lot of people don't know where he got
Speaker 4: his name from.
Speaker 2: No, most people don't.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's heavy, and when you talk about it, that's
Speaker 5: that you get mad. Huh.
Speaker 1: So I think he understood people didn't know that, which
Speaker 1: is why he named himself that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the law of it, like he had to
Speaker 5: name itself that because the law of who Rick Ross
Speaker 5: was had to be out there already. He just didn't
Speaker 5: grab some name with no meaning to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I also think Greek urban cultural people are are
Speaker 1: one percent of this population in America.
Speaker 5: Okay, let me ask you this, who who is Rick
Speaker 5: Ross really catering to with his music.
Speaker 2: Buying the buying population Middle America?
Speaker 5: Okay, so he could take that, I didn't know that
Speaker 5: give it to Middle America.
Speaker 1: I think he's taking a street urban lure, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, give it to and then presenting this entertainment
Speaker 1: package to Middle America.
Speaker 5: And he don't like when you say that. No, the
Speaker 5: truth is the truth though. No, they like no, they
Speaker 5: like gee.
Speaker 1: But I was realizing is like when Tupac must die,
Speaker 1: people was like, man, why are you telling this story
Speaker 1: about Tupac.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm telling this story about Baby Lane.
Speaker 1: Like it's important to humanize this person's experience on this
Speaker 1: planet Earth.
Speaker 2: In this situation, I felt like it was necessary. People
Speaker 2: were upset. They was like, why would you want to
Speaker 2: humanize the experience of a person that did this, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, because like that's what hip hop is all about.
Speaker 1: This is a bad person. Yeah, it doesn't mean he
Speaker 1: was a bad person. Yeah, don't mean it's a horrible person.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the way culture raises us, and
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is how morality works in
Speaker 1: this way of life, in this way of life. So
Speaker 1: but I realized people didn't want to have to deal
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: They liked the magic trick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they got this I mix of two part
Speaker 5: that nobody wants to change. And it's at this highlight
Speaker 5: of his life that everybody only focused on.
Speaker 1: But I don't get like those two things could all
Speaker 1: be in alignment. Like, and that's what I'm starting to
Speaker 1: realize people can't. It's like when Constantine and them sanctioned Christianity,
Speaker 1: right and and h excuse me when they when they
Speaker 1: they when they created the Counselor, and I see that
Speaker 1: whole meeting that structured Christianity the way we know it today.
Speaker 2: They knew human beings.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to reference it as the greatest marketing meeting
Speaker 1: of all time. Oh yeah, definitely, because they understood how
Speaker 1: Jesus needed to be presented to bring peace amongst human beings.
Speaker 1: I had a crazy question, Pete.
Speaker 5: Peace you think it was going at peace?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because at that time Rome was messing itself up
Speaker 1: and they wanted to unite everybody in Rome under one idea.
Speaker 1: But here's a question for you and Pete, right, would
Speaker 1: you rather tell a lie and have.
Speaker 2: The war at war? Have the world at war? Or
Speaker 2: tell the Excuse me?
Speaker 1: Would you rather tell a lie and have the world
Speaker 1: at peace or tell the truth and have the world
Speaker 1: at war.
Speaker 2: That's a heavy ask question, So I'm asking what time
Speaker 2: would you rather.
Speaker 1: Lie and have the world at peace or tell the
Speaker 1: facts and have the world at war?
Speaker 3: It probably hinges on like the all like the reality
Speaker 3: of reality, war and peace are temporary. Truth is more
Speaker 3: durable than lie. So you have to presume that the
Speaker 3: lie that sends the world to war would result in
Speaker 3: a resolution, whereas the lie that sent the world to
Speaker 3: peace would eventually expire.
Speaker 5: So you would just you might change my position, Pete,
Speaker 5: So you would just do what exactly you might have changed.
Speaker 3: Up for I guess, I guess it depends on what
Speaker 3: the lie is. But I always I'll go with truth
Speaker 3: that at that point, what about you?
Speaker 5: Oh, I can listen to Pete, you know, I might
Speaker 5: have to go with the truth. But first I was like, man,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go lie right now so I can have
Speaker 5: some peace out there.
Speaker 4: But then listen to to Pete and stuff. You're right.
Speaker 4: Truth is gonna always come out in the end.
Speaker 5: So I agree with you, Pete.
Speaker 3: Truth, that's why King's the man, That's why it's so
Speaker 3: pissed all the time.
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