WEBVTT - Conversations On How To Care For People

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<v Speaker 1>What's up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealer's podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>loaw glasses Malone. He kind of came up with the

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<v Speaker 1>idea for today.

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<v Speaker 2>Move about people that take care of you.

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<v Speaker 1>So two people who really support the stream, Pete Pete

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<v Speaker 1>been gone, but everybody knows to lunch our stream. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the accessory piece to No Simils podcast. We started by

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<v Speaker 1>me and Pete where we did it every Monday, Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>and Friday for free. Yes, like you've been doing all

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<v Speaker 1>of this for free and it's like you're building something

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't quite know what you're building. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a commitment to have these discussions openly. And Pete, you

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<v Speaker 1>know life made people are right turn So we can't

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<v Speaker 1>really commit to that right now, but you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>still managed to do the podcast on these days that

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<v Speaker 1>we need to for people's audio.

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<v Speaker 2>But two people place orders at the cryptstore dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you head over if you're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Note Sellers podcast, head over to the cryptstore dot com www.

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<v Speaker 2>Dot Doug cryptstore dot com. Got a bunch of new ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Pete gave me some new ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be really good. We actually gonna open up

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<v Speaker 1>a brick and mortar CCS, which is kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But two people who really

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<v Speaker 1>support this thing that me and pe started ordered some

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<v Speaker 1>merch right. Shout out to Fatima, shout out to Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to those two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hell yeah, caricatures of us and King got this

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<v Speaker 1>thing with being famous, and it's really.

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<v Speaker 4>Here where you go you store with throwing that in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's important that because I know that's your heart's desire.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, you want to give context to what you're about

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<v Speaker 5>to say.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like a black Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah he is. Oh, Pete, we're done.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the King Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 5>One thing we don't do is refer me to women.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the King, the senior lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the father is a Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh the lawyer Dudeah, okay, I'll be the lawyer, dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be the lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, King Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 4>Good cats.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, like, I know that's important to him, but

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<v Speaker 1>because he's always supported me, it's important for me to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that he accomplishes something that's means something to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And Fatima and Nick Fatima.

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<v Speaker 1>Who moderates the check She's she's always encouraging people to

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<v Speaker 1>like subscribe, you know, she really works. And Squishy is

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<v Speaker 1>like my first to me Pete, our first real hardcore supporter.

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<v Speaker 2>That you know what I mean. I knew that reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to me and said, I really support what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's transcended into like the production role. She cornered

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<v Speaker 3>role for herself. Yes, yeah, she even handled a greater

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<v Speaker 3>role in this than I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, sweet right out squeish. She came to Denver for

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<v Speaker 2>a concert I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing fort support though. That's really shout out to big

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking Pump. Pump is a female truck driver. She listens

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<v Speaker 1>to the No Sellers podcast as well. She always dms

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<v Speaker 1>me on Instagram. Rest in peace to her mom or

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<v Speaker 1>mom passed away. She hadn't really reached out to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but she had been listening. She was just telling me

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<v Speaker 1>how much better the podcast has gotten over time. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I say all this because Nick and Fatima. Nick who supports,

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<v Speaker 1>he gives coach shit all the time, but he supports

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, and he created these dope characters and he

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<v Speaker 1>ordered something and he's been cool because I haven't shipped

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<v Speaker 1>his order. I didn't realize I shipped it because I

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<v Speaker 1>shipped a bunch of orders and I'm just overwhelmed. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna just give him two or

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<v Speaker 1>three shirts. I'm gonna give him a bunch of CDs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give him a vinyl because he always show love.

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<v Speaker 1>And same for Fatima. I'm like, she ordered a merch

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<v Speaker 1>pack of the Cancer right, which is the shirt and

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<v Speaker 1>the CD, and I'm like, yeah, we're gonna throwing a

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<v Speaker 1>vinyl some more CDs because I was telling King, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to take care of the people that take

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<v Speaker 1>care of you, And it's the same thing with you, Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have to figure it out. It puts another

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on you to figure it out with people, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean to where it's like you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make people. They're helping you, so you want to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out a way to help them.

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<v Speaker 5>Facts.

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<v Speaker 3>Something occurred to me just a moment ago. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be did you ever see the old movie called Dirty

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<v Speaker 3>Work with Norm MacDonald.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is that when he was a butler?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's where he opened up a brick and mortar

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<v Speaker 3>store to offer revenge services with already the guy from

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<v Speaker 3>Howard Stern.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I never saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying, you could pair offering crypt merchandise with

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<v Speaker 3>selling crypt services out of the crypt store.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Man, definitely sounds interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh don't do it, Pete, don't don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't run the store.

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<v Speaker 4>See, I'm going to run the store, Pete. I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to run the store.

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<v Speaker 5>Pete don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, in that case, we'll just we'll shelve this idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, with the brick and mortar.

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<v Speaker 1>Is more of a vinyl thing, you know, all the

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<v Speaker 1>way from you know, the Tone Loaks, the comps is

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<v Speaker 1>most wanted's, you know, coming forward to the little Babies,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vince Staples, just a bunch of different vinyls.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a great idea, like to do all

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<v Speaker 5>the crib vinyls and music like that. I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And to have some cool merch nothing that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a blood could walk in the store and it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>offend them, bother them. But you can notice that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of information about crips here.

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<v Speaker 3>And with all due respect to these guys because I

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<v Speaker 3>like them and they're very popular and successful quick in

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<v Speaker 3>the game. Probably won't be able to have their vinyls

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<v Speaker 3>in the store. That would be very funny. Went out

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<v Speaker 3>of your way to make it really obvious that their

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<v Speaker 3>stuff wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>Man have everything around them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I thought about partnering up with like two eleven

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to mommy to eleven from Inglewood from NHP

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<v Speaker 1>cup brother I always you know, looked out, always thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was a special MC, like a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>two eleven, and he has a really dope store where

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<v Speaker 1>the service spoon is, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, maybe I'll partner with him to do something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, my brother has done a really good

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<v Speaker 1>job shout out the k style of making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I make it a place that's closer to a museum

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<v Speaker 1>and ideal where you could come in and get information,

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<v Speaker 1>and then taking a page out of nickbook making it

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<v Speaker 1>a smart store where you could probably get information on

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<v Speaker 1>different things related to the topic. So I'm excited about it. Simple,

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<v Speaker 1>like really simple. I've been talking to King. It'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>be a place that you could come get seven grams

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<v Speaker 1>a week for twenty five dollars for you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like just this smoking deal of top quality

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<v Speaker 1>stuff just because I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>We need we need strain eventually, but we need more.

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<v Speaker 1>Like as a hip hop artist, I think we've been

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<v Speaker 1>spoiled by mainstream America so much that we forgot the

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<v Speaker 1>black market was the greatest you know, associate when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to marketing hip hop, and we've almost turned our

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<v Speaker 1>back on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And just for clarity's sake, the black market being the

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<v Speaker 3>African American consumer market or the underground market.

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<v Speaker 1>The underground market, oh for sure, sure, No, no, not

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<v Speaker 1>the black man. That's a great point, the black market,

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<v Speaker 1>not the black man's market, but the black market. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's been missing. I feel like that's been missing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like hip hop has been suffering to some degree.

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<v Speaker 1>It is doing well, you know, at the elite level,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's suffering because we've disconnected the black market from it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And I was telling King, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is an idea, like where you can

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<v Speaker 1>get seven grams a week for twenty five great week,

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<v Speaker 1>no fuck fucking dispensary.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be kind of interesting to do, like like

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<v Speaker 3>a regional like say all the Long Beach artists in

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<v Speaker 3>like an omar section to look like VIP Records, and

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<v Speaker 3>then something else that would look like a place that

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<v Speaker 3>was in another part of town that had a similar impact,

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<v Speaker 3>or vice versa. You know what I'm saying, Ooh.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, Pee, don't do it, Pete, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>That would really give King a lot to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it, Pete, I love it, I really do.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it. I love that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>No Seller's podcast last is Low Peter Boss in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my big brother King here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought about that taking care of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that take care of you. So people that support the stream,

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<v Speaker 1>right the lunch hour stream or this podcast, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of them. And I was just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that to King, And the more I think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like my fundamental value.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, true, Like you already got to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>people who don't take care of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain that one well, because you know, you have obligations

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a parent, if you're a family member, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if you're a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's certain people that.

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<v Speaker 1>Will never do anything for you in those positions, and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel obligated to still take care of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's your existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I truly believe you define yourself by your actions,

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<v Speaker 1>not anybody else's actions.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I'll stop at the parents till about eighteen.

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<v Speaker 5>After that, there's no obligation with anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on the kind of person you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you see why they paint me mean and mad?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, got it right.

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<v Speaker 4>You see why they paint me mean and mad?

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<v Speaker 5>You got it right?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>You already have the people that you didn't get to select,

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<v Speaker 1>but when people select you, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Really got to do right by them.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, because people will select you and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why, what I mean, So you got to do

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<v Speaker 1>right by the people that select you.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree to anybody that helps you, you know, to me,

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<v Speaker 5>it's an obligation to do something to try to make

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<v Speaker 5>their life better, you know, happier, or something that I

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<v Speaker 5>could try to do to show my appreciation. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>just showing appreciation, you know, for what they've done for me,

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<v Speaker 5>our thought about me, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>And it comes into what do they want? You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like like you fight it, but you there's a desire

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<v Speaker 1>to have famous is so cheaply said that it comes

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<v Speaker 1>with a negative connotation does, but it is true in

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<v Speaker 1>your position, like your voice needs to be heard because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a rational that matters, and I think that is Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if a claim is what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's much more deeper. I don't think he King really

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<v Speaker 1>cares about a claim as much as bastards.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I really don't care about money like that. But

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<v Speaker 5>money is a tool to me to be used a

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<v Speaker 5>certain way. Yeah, you know. And if I want to

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<v Speaker 5>help people without trying to cry to other people to

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<v Speaker 5>help me help people, then I need to make the

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<v Speaker 5>money myself.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just that simple. Y, that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then you start to notice people around you,

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<v Speaker 1>your friend's talents, right, and King has a talent that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think, you know, it's ever really been nurtured,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you say, don't you don't you good?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a people person. Let's just say that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't really call you a people person all.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of Nick painted that picture of me looking angry.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I just think you have very short tolerance

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<v Speaker 2>for people.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I'm getting older. I got very short talents

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<v Speaker 5>for bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>And people equals bullshit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you're right, And even.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first met you, you wasn't necessarily the most

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<v Speaker 1>tolerant person people.

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<v Speaker 5>No's a loving guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, love and loving, not tolerance. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like polar opposite, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>It don't mean like because you are no nonsense, Cause

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<v Speaker 1>I just I wouldn't say somebody that's a no nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy as.

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<v Speaker 2>A people person.

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<v Speaker 1>You actually to be a people person, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be very open to nonsense. Yeah, but you are silly

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't mind people being silly, but nonsense and

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<v Speaker 1>you are no nonsense kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's you. I think he's trying to pay me

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<v Speaker 4>as him Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Think you're a leader of men and you uphold a standard.

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<v Speaker 3>I would describe you as the nick Saban of crips.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go talking about you that I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>King King said the phrase led a prison riot on

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<v Speaker 3>a previous podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I have.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a leader of men.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a natural thing. But he King is more

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<v Speaker 1>than no nonsense. He's just no nonsense. I wouldn't describe

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<v Speaker 1>him as a people person. I think I do think

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<v Speaker 1>he's not like he's not like an anti social person, Pete.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a people person.

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<v Speaker 5>You could put me anywhere in this world, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna survive because people are gonna help me because they

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that means you're a people OK,

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<v Speaker 2>A little.

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<v Speaker 5>No glasses is right. I'm okay with being in my house.

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<v Speaker 5>If I have everything I need in my house, I

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<v Speaker 5>really don't have to go outside and deal with people.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the truth. Yes, that that's a fact. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>but I go out there and deal with people because

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<v Speaker 5>I know you make any help.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you make it work, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think so. He kind of right, though

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think your experience with people is making it work.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm stuck with these people.

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<v Speaker 2>Let else, you know, let me help.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a helpful someone who enjoys people or someone who people.

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<v Speaker 4>Enjoy I enjoy watching people.

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<v Speaker 5>I love to sit back and just watch people just

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<v Speaker 5>do the stupidest ship in front of you.

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<v Speaker 3>That shouldn't take long at least, So that's good to say.

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<v Speaker 4>You're just looking around, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh you gotta just walk out the door and just

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<v Speaker 5>look don't you have to turn on your TV or phone.

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<v Speaker 4>Just walk outside you'll see it. Yeah right, I told.

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<v Speaker 5>Glasses, I'm beginning to think this world is flat. All

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<v Speaker 5>that around and going to the space and ship. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I went to uh to us uh the Space Center

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff when I was in Florida and looked at

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<v Speaker 5>all the NASA stuff. Okay, they want me to believe

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<v Speaker 5>that that Space Shuttle went up there wrapped with a quill.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fabric wrapped around the Space shuttle.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, like the flame retarding or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>When they when I seen that, I said, now, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>this is bullshit. They said, thank the ladies that quoted

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<v Speaker 5>the outside of the Space shuttle. Man, get the fuck

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<v Speaker 5>out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm done.

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<v Speaker 5>The world is flat. Okay, go ahead, Glass. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>but that's just a funny shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the fucking talking about. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just saying, I don't think he's much of

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<v Speaker 1>a people person, but I think he understands how to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with people.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so, but I think that's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely feel like as I get older, I get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more honoring and about less bullshit?

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<v Speaker 4>Why you say honre? Won't you just say your tolerance

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<v Speaker 4>changes is necessarily honre that you get because first is

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<v Speaker 4>the definition of honre to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, the guy in the square just to his left, your.

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<v Speaker 5>Stupid Piete, right, Pete, So there's only one honor person

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<v Speaker 5>in this group?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Pete didn't already claimed that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm starting a movement. Anybody could be as honery

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<v Speaker 3>as they want, not as honorary as me, but as

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<v Speaker 3>honorary as they can.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Pete, what is definition in the honre?

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<v Speaker 3>I am just assumptive that circumstance and my surroundings and

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<v Speaker 3>anyone around me is going to piss me off almost immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just counting down the seconds and waiting to

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<v Speaker 3>realize the prejudicial negative response that I am going to have.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, so you already know you have a negative one. Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think glasses does that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's called is bad tempered and combative?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's like, I'm not really bad tempered.

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<v Speaker 2>In my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't think I'm combative, but I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>because I was on ADHD yesterday, well, no, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the Homie John space. Well Adhd, same thing, all

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Shout out the trap, shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>John John. And we were having a conversation about culture.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was explaining to brother Gary's good brother from Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>from Atlanta, got his stuff together, you know graduate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think bachelors and masters, really smart brother. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was explaining to him that truly culture, you know, ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent of culture comes from poor people. Like when you

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<v Speaker 1>have opportunities to do anything, when you have money, people

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<v Speaker 1>don't do the same thing. They could do whatever they want. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there is some traditions and norms their aspects of culture,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not a complete livelihood that that is experienced

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<v Speaker 1>because economics create you know, options. And I was explaining

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<v Speaker 1>that to him and ended up spinning up into this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation because I think he's more of a more well black,

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<v Speaker 1>affluent background. And we start talking about the contributions to culture,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or black cultures by HBCUs and different things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I noticed in that conversation everything that I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying was not being heard, like it wasn't being listened to.

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<v Speaker 1>It was being acknowledged that I said something, and how

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded and everybody would respond back to me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you're saying and I'm like, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>not repeat back to me what I'm saying. And people

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the conversation was this ingenuous versus me learning

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<v Speaker 1>at that time, like two.

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<v Speaker 3>Frays or what's one of two phrases that drives me crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like you're saying and so what you mean

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<v Speaker 3>is It's like, no, I said what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was explaining to them. I was explaining to

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<v Speaker 1>the people. I'm like, no, I'm saying, what do people

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<v Speaker 1>at HBCUs do culturally? Like what's the complete behavior? And

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking to me about saying divine nine and

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<v Speaker 1>they kept talking to me like I knew it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>And Walter, you know, good brother, Walter, and.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and it's shot te for debating about Black

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<v Speaker 1>Greek associations.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, they don't have HBCUs on the West coast.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if any.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't have any of them out of the traditional

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<v Speaker 3>South maybe fringe state.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and I wouldn't know because that is something

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<v Speaker 1>in southern, you know, United States of America.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something.

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<v Speaker 3>Thatsation, isn't I mean, am I missing something?

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<v Speaker 2>You said?

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<v Speaker 3>Who it's it's a response to segregation. So it would

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<v Speaker 3>be in states that have segregation, right, that would make

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<v Speaker 3>sense to me.

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<v Speaker 5>If I if I answered Pete, They'll say I'm angry again.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>Was launched by white people and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>You know Spilman's you know, Rockefeller's wife is Spilman, that's

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<v Speaker 5>her name. You know, in places like that Morehouse and

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<v Speaker 5>all them guys. Is was from these people that was segregated.

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<v Speaker 5>But they wives and stuff wanted to help the slaves

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff. So to me, it's a whole other society

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<v Speaker 5>that's out of street urban culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I mean not even street urban culture, just in

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<v Speaker 2>black culture.

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<v Speaker 5>This black culture, Okay, I can believe.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm saying to them, what is the lively, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the behavior? And he started running down specifically what the

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<v Speaker 1>Alphas do? Yees, yeah, And I didn't I think in

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<v Speaker 1>his mind, I was supposed to understand that the Alphas

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<v Speaker 1>was a part of Divine nine. I thought Divine nine

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<v Speaker 1>was a gang or something or a group of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. And by the end of the conversation, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>was saying glasses. The fact that you acting like you

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<v Speaker 1>have you you saw the film, you saw the film

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<v Speaker 1>Stump the Yard, or you saw the film School Days,

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<v Speaker 1>and you act like you don't have no idea, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I've never watched the film. It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I had information about that, right, I think. I think

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<v Speaker 1>films are for entertainment. It's like me watching a Mafia

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<v Speaker 1>movie thinking I understand what's happening in the inner workings

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mafia. It's like these like this is entertainment.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't see it. Like you said, you grew up

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<v Speaker 5>around as people. Remember, people look at movies and think

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<v Speaker 5>that's real. You know, that's the real way things is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know who's wrong, Like I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how could they feel so empowered by a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of entertainment that was meant to entertain And That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like I remember explaining to them I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really learn hip hop and like until twenty eighteen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they like, les's that means you haven't. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to hip hop albums or rap albums

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<v Speaker 1>since I was a little an infant, like I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember Rappers Delight like I was born when Rappers Delight

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<v Speaker 1>came out, you know what I mean, same year. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the Message, I remember Breaking when it first came out.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Crush Groove, I remember all that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel I understood hip hop because I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>ll cooj Bad album at six.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel like I knew what it was.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't feel like you knew New York or understood.

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<v Speaker 1>No No, or what was happening breaking, Like, yes, I

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.120
<v Speaker 1>saw O's on the turbo dancing, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I understood what breaking was about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think as human beings, right, there is

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<v Speaker 1>some arrogance in how information is received and what you

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<v Speaker 1>know about said thing. Because you go watch an entertainment

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.639
<v Speaker 1>piece like a film, and then like how people do

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<v Speaker 1>with gang banging and Colors. They'd be like, oh, man,

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>you about Colors because they saw Dennis Hopper's film Colors,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, you don't know nothing about gang

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<v Speaker 1>bang And they feel entitled to to speak because they

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<v Speaker 1>saw film, and they was mad at me because I'm like, yeah,

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I care a little bit too much about my people

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<v Speaker 1>to act like I know what's going on in those

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and those circumstances. I don't

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 1>know what the hell is going on, you know in HBCU's.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know that they are none here. I know

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<v Speaker 1>some names, right, Spellman, Warhouse, Howard. My niece went to Howard.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know a couple names of the schools,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't. And I do know they started because

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>brothers couldn't. They wasn't being admitted into private white institutions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying I don't know about HBCUs. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>how many films I saw. They talking about different world.

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I saw that once or twice maybe, but

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I still wouldn't feel like I knew something about HBCU's

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>because I saw that television show.

0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>And people was upset.

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Like the arrogance of y'all to believed because you saw

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a film you understand what's going on, shows a lack

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of care for people, and like, I don't, just.

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Bluntly speaking, wasn't in the room at all. I don't

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 3>think they would have assumed that I understood HBCUs. Had

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 3>I seen that movie one time and if I had

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 3>an opinion about it, they probably like, well, what you're

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 3>talking about?

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>You saw the movie?

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's and it blew me away, like like

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I just handle things with a lot more care, bro,

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I really do, I really do. And I think it's

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>frustrating to people because I care to know more than

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>what has been given to us through mainstream information.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a question for you, you know, and I

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 5>would have asked them, you know, like the movies like

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<v Speaker 5>School Days or Stopped the Yard. Do they think that

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 5>gave you know, hps use the best image? Because when

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 5>I think by School Days and Stop the Yard, I

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 5>think about a bunch of motherfuckers just partying and not

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 5>taking it serious and damn to have gangs themselves, but

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 5>they just haven't dance offs.

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 2>When I went and saw Stop the Yard, all I

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>remember was Nigga's dancing.

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying.

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 5>It was like does a gift the HBUs HBCUs the

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 5>like that they act like, Hey, this is what we're about.

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 5>You know, if you watch this movie, you should know

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 5>what we're about. Is that the image they're trying to portray?

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know, so I don't know nothing about it,

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>but again, and I think it comes across the people

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>like I'm trolling because I don't have that perspective, or

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>it comes across like I'm hating because like I don't

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>mind critiquing somebody even if we're okay, or like I'm

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>focused on my space, like on what I am.

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 4>Thinking about HBCUs. I never heard you say anything about.

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.959
<v Speaker 2>HP because I don't know much about HBCUs.

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying, so, how you trolling on that?

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Because people expect need to know. I don't know why.

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I'm expected to know about all

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>this shit I don't know about.

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Huh have you ever performed at NHBCUS?

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 1>No, My brand of currique may not be what the

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>institution desires at their location.

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>So even though it should, because I can articulate.

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Look, if hip hop is street urban culture personified through

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>these arts or elements, right MCDN, I would be possibly

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the greatest and most articulate voice in Southern California's illustrious

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>street urban culture that they call gang banging. I would

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>probably be the most well explained, well understanding, and well

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>informed artists of all artists. But you would have to

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>respect that it could be intellect in cripping and blooding

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think people are ready to deal in

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that thought. That is, like I could tell when I

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>put out Tupac mus Die. It messed people up because

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>in their mind it was so easy just to write

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it off as a disdain or hatred, and then somebody

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>could articulate the perspective and even more, even more, what's

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>more scary is make you think to yourself, damn, I

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>might have done the same thing if I was in

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that position. And people don't want to have that perspective.

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean they want to be able to write off

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>crips and bloods like, oh, you guys are dumb.

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>You're fighting over colors and property you don't own.

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Like King said, right here, and listen to me talk

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to one of my homeboys on death Road.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. He's doing a life sentence.

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>It's been converted over and he heard me talk to

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>him or another one of my older homies, and it

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>would sound like I'm talking to my older brother. Right,

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>were just having a conversation. And this man, throughout his

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>warrior experience in gang banging, is articulate as fuck.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 2>He wrote a whole book.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I mean, not some dummy, but

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>when you are raised in these said environments. You know

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, You kind of you almost have to

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.719
<v Speaker 1>behave like the natives to be okay. It takes a

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>different mind to make you realize how many other options

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>are outside of the options presented to you.

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 5>But did Cookie write some books too? Yes, so you know,

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 5>like those are the facts that people should be able

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 5>to see, you know what I'm saying right there, But.

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>In that like Monster, Cody's book is one of the

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>better books ever written when it comes to Lost as

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a street culture, period, when it comes to any street

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>urban culture. But I don't think people want to believe

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that there can be articulate members that are still involved

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>in this life or understand it. So it's easy just

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to write it off. It's easy just to write it

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>off like ignorance. And like you can ask.

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 3>People you're dealing with also academia in this you know sense,

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 3>it's like that's an outfit institutionally that is not very

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 3>well prepared to be questioned. There are sociologists there that

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 3>can't have holes poked into their very loose theories. Best

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 3>just could be described by any critic.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>So you know, like.

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 3>You would it would, it would be like confrontations I

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>had with professors, not confrontations with debates in some of

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>my justice studies classes. Times a thousand. They're just there's

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 3>no desire at all to have of the veil of

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 3>authority pierced in any way, shape or form.

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>M But how do you feel so arrogant and in

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a particular subject if you have never done any true

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>homework or research.

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 3>That's why they hide behind letters next to their names.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look at I mean, for fuck's sake, there's

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 3>Marxist economists teaching economics on college campuses. I mean you are.

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 4>Did you learn anything from them about HBCUs.

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I learned about the Alphas. I learned that they

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>were the first black fraternity and.

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Pretty much cus or in America or in what.

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean for sure in HBCUs.

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if I don't know about all that,

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not a I'm not look, I don't have

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a Pete and Moot one day educated me on college.

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>So crazy, I'm learning so much about college and I did,

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>like I always felt I missed something with college. I disagree,

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>But Pete and Luke really kind of said, no, gee,

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit more like academia. It's more you know,

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it's more glamor than actual substance in it all. So

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>they kind of made me be like not quite got

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to be careful with that, Like he said, right now,

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>people don't want to be challenged in those spaces. So

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I learned about what alphas. I think I

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>came out of that conversation understanding like how my people

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>go to these schools, right, and they established themselves and

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>these organizations, and they become lifelong, They become lifelong friends

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>or lifelong brothers.

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I got another question, the people do you think

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 5>they support streets three over in culture?

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean somebody like puff Daddy went to Howard and

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I think he probably, I don't know.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 5>As a whole, not just you know, one or two people,

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 5>but as a.

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Whole institutionally speaking, institutionally speaking, as a whole, I don't know.

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 3>I would if I was gonna shoot from the hip

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 3>on this, I would say internally no.

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 5>Externally, yes, I think they appropriate the streets. Certain things

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 5>are the streets they appropriate from the street urban culture

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:43.439
<v Speaker 5>into what they do.

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I think.

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>But that standard all the time, which is kind of

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the genesis of that conversation, which is like, bro people

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>take from poor people.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then they talk shit about poor and.

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 4>They don't want to admit that that's where they got

0:34:59.080 --> 0:34:59.479
<v Speaker 4>it from.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>And he was just aeneously.

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 3>They need to put at least in the black community,

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 3>the more like it like a better word like oppressed

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 3>part of the community out in front. Well, then simultaneously

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 3>separating themselves from them. Yeah, in an elitist hierarchy.

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's what's happening the time. Yeah, I just talked

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 2>about it in this rap. That was that line.

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>All extortion talk wildly overblown. Rich niggas is supposed to

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>help their own like, and it's like.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like a.

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a false sense of care for people. Like if

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>if let's say, the Jewish folks who led the March

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>for reparations for the Holocaust, they were most likely Now

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, I would have to do some homework,

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure the more financially savvy people led the

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>march for reparations against different people in that situation, like

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>they have to lead that march, and I don't think

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that's per se happening when it comes to Black America.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>The loudest voices in the reparations conversation are not the

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>most successful Black people, and that is a big problem.

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>That's a huge problem about that, Like you know what

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't hear Oprah Winfrey talk about reparations enough.

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>You don't hear about Barack.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 5>Talk about your upper society of black people don't talk

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 5>about reparations.

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they should be the loudest in the room.

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 5>Are supporting it the most?

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they supporting it, because you could

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>support things in silence or private, right, you could be donating.

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 5>So you would said they should be vocal.

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Well I'm not saying and they shit, I'm telling

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you they aren't, Okay, So I don't Again, that's kind

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of been my critique, like I don't think.

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 2>The well to do brother.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Really are you know, backing their people up, showing love

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to their people.

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:19.959
<v Speaker 2>I think they start to set.

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it happen every day where I see some

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>asshole on Instagram talking about it's a difference between black

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>people and niggas. That is like one of the most

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>frustrating things to ever that I've ever heard in my life.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>When black people because white the white folk who call

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>black people nigga, call all of them niggas, Like how

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>did you slide yourself into this elitist white position and

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to where you're like, well, I'm not good.

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm a good, upstanding black folk, and y'all is niggas.

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 5>They're all the same, the white people.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>If that word was to be used that way.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it was every day were for everyone. Yeah.

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like if he was a doctor. He was like, well,

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>he ain't a nigga.

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.399
<v Speaker 1>He a doctor, don't I don't think a white folk.

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh he a doctor.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 2>He and a nigga.

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>He's a doctor. No, he's a nigga doctor.

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Speaker.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.879
<v Speaker 6>In most cases, probably himself was not a doctor because

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 6>I could imagine Paul Pete, because I could imagine what

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 6>Pete is listening, like, this should sound crazy, trying to.

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 3>See if the if the Jewish restaurant called it came

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 3>out of the Marshall Plan or how it was related

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 3>to the Marshall Plan. And I was trying to read

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 3>through a bunch of crap too fast.

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 5>And I.

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Think the most successful brothers like Lebron James should be

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>screaming it.

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, Oprah Winfrey with a platform should

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>be streaming with screaming it.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I think all the.

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Most successful black folks should be screaming, Hey, you need

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to repair the relationship with black amor America. You have

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to repair the relationship with Black America. This is a

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>part of how it changes the way people see black

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>people in America. It's you showing your commitment to repairing

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the things that you say were wrong in America. I

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>think the loudest people in the room should be Will Smith.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It should be you know, not just you know, celebrities,

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, anybody of note with the platform. That should

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 1>be the conversation they're having. It should never feel like

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I got minds and that's what it is, and I

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna and I ain't gonna say that because that

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>they say.

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Though they say like I got mine, so you should

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 4>be able to get yours.

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's what they say, but that's

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>what it feels like.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 4>I heard people say that, at least to me.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 2>That's what it feels like.

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.399
<v Speaker 1>So it's a frustrating thing to watch people not take

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>care of the people.

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a very frustrating thing.

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 5>But you think these people lose their appreciate for how

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 5>they got to where they are, and that's why they

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 5>don't give back.

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to try to get into those people

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>heads of what's happening. Okay, in general, if I had

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to have a thought, I think there's a threat that

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>if you start screaming it you don't.

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Have a problem.

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh, they'll take you down.

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because again, you know, somebody else is putting you

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>in position, right, even if you're working your ass off, like,

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>somebody has to put you in position. From a lack

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 1>of better terms, the other side, they have to put

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you in position.

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 3>And if you have to huh, and if you have

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 3>enough money, it will inevidently become a cost to you

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 3>more than a benefit to you.

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 5>But in this sense, Pete, I don't even think it's

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 5>gonna have to, you know, really deal with the money.

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 5>If you could get all the poor people together to

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 5>rally behind one thing, if you got a few people

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 5>that do have, you know, means to get a few

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 5>things done, I think the masses will override money in

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 5>certain certain circumstances.

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But like I'm saying, like in the literal actual

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 3>distribution of funds, if you have more than you would

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 3>stand to be given in the check, then your capital

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 3>erosion or taxes or these various ways it would come

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 3>to balance that out on the on the books are

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 3>going to end up detracting more than the check you

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:34.919
<v Speaker 3>receive in the mail.

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole other conversation. But I'm just saying white

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 2>people don't do that.

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just saying I just think people are not

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>doing a great job of that, of giving back, no,

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 1>of taking care of their own like it's not about well,

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not about giving back.

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Like one of the.

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Biggest scams in America is like a philanthropy.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous.

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 5>Why that's a scam because there is.

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>No reason that somebody should have all of this, and

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>there's people that have nothing. The fact that that's some

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of celebrated title is ridiculous.

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 5>That they help people, it's.

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Not helping people, Like you get credit for helping people.

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.240
<v Speaker 3>But you are doing the helping to get the credit.

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 4>M h.

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>It's tricky.

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 5>Like, well, I agree, you shouldn't have to get you know,

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 5>awards for helping people. If you really want to help.

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 2>People, why do you have a title to be a human?

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 5>So I agree with that statement of you shouldn't have

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 5>to get awards if you just want to healthy.

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, there's a title for being human. That's what being

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 1>human is, right, The verb of being human is humane.

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Me and Pete tall about this. That's the verb of

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.879
<v Speaker 1>it to care about other people. Why do you need

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a fancy title? Like all of that shit just cap

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.839
<v Speaker 1>they ain't helping shit, But you're not really helping shit

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>at that point, the fact that you have all of

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And this goes into the conversation me and

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Pete have about capitalism, socialism and what's righting what's wrong.

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And there's another thing I'll be honest to say, I

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know enough about politics to.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Have that conversation.

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Reading the small sample size of reading I've done, I

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:27.760
<v Speaker 1>think I'm a socialist by nature. I'm trying to transform

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>or is it come form to a capitalist. It's really

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>hard for me because it feels like it goes against

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 1>my soul. Like right, it's like the last time I

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>did things as a capitalist, I was selling drugs.

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I think you also think of capitalists, like

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 3>to say like human and humane as the capitalist as

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 3>the noun form of the verb to capitalize, meaning to

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 3>which has like a take advantage kind of connotation to it, you.

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Know, and I hate that it does.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 3>You're right, and I don't really agree with that.

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, because it's it's not truly the definition. It's

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the feel of it. Yeah, and that and that don't

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>have to be true. But again, it's like you would

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>have to be educated. I couldn't have this conversation with you,

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:21.320
<v Speaker 1>which is why we never really have capitalist conversations because

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not educated enough about any of these you know,

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.879
<v Speaker 1>economic models to go into it.

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 3>And it's it's it's a term largely as we use

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 3>it in the modern sense, that's the product of being

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 3>defined by Karl Marks and his writings. So it's it's

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 3>a skewed definition that is that I'm I'm a pro

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 3>free market guy. That's all I described myself. Yeah, people.

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:56.399
<v Speaker 5>Do they even use capitalists, you know, in conversations now

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 5>to describe things now, Like I haven't heard that word

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 5>really use to describe economy or anything lately.

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Depends on the conversation. I guess if we listen to

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 3>that mayoral candidate who's an open socialist talk enough times

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 3>or what's his name for Vermont talk enough times? He

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 3>would use the word capitalist, but.

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So I'm saying like years ago used to hear

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 5>it all the time, twenty years ago, thirty years ago,

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 5>they would just say capitalist, capitalist, capitalist, But now it's

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 5>like not even you know, even brought up.

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think some of that's probably because now

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 3>people started pushing back on demonization of capitalism with demonalization

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 3>of socialism, and they just said, well, we don't want

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.919
<v Speaker 3>to be pushed back on, so we'll find a new word.

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 5>True.

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 2>The most I remember Martin Luther King would speak on reparations.

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>He was a well to do brother, you know what

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>But you don't really have that conversation of you know,

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not happening, and you know, I don't really have

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>to answer, you know, I just can see and feel

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 1>things are not right.

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 5>But you got the power to start the conversation like

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 5>you're doing now, you know, in a different realm than

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 5>what it's been talked about before. You know, now you

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 5>actually bring it into this realm of hip hop, street

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 5>urban talk. So you're doing what you're supposed to do.

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But again you can't I'm not overvested in it,

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.959
<v Speaker 1>so I can't truly, you know, go too deep into

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the conversation like that.

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 2>And that's the point, Like, I care too much about what.

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.760
<v Speaker 1>People have going on to misrepresent in my in those spaces,

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 1>like I know what the fuck is going on because

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I got entertained by something at one time.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you a question. Do you fear or

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 5>have a bad feeling of giving somebody the wrong info?

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm just not gonna do it. Yeah, I'm just

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>not gonna do it. It's not a fear. But the

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>things I don't.

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 5>Know about bad if you give them the wrong info.

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh hell, I would imagine it feel like shit.

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:13.839
<v Speaker 5>Okay, well I'm talking about you personally.

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I can't given wrong info before. And that's I.

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Can't recall too many times I gave people wrong info,

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 1>So you've payed close attention not to I'm really careful

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>with what I tell people to do when they're asking

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:32.880
<v Speaker 1>me my opinion.

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 3>I try to give considerations. What you mean, Pete, Like,

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to give somebody the answer. I just

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:43.800
<v Speaker 3>want to give somebody something that they can weigh against

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 3>another option so they can have a more balanced take

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 3>on a question.

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 5>Peters.

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 3>That's that's that's as benevolence as I get Wow.

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Peter's.

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 5>Answer a question with a question, Okay for real?

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that really is because you need more information. I

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 1>totally give a pete, you know, saying like, sometimes you

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 1>need more informations to have these discussions, and we don't

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>have enough information, but we tend to wrap ourselves in

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the discussion.

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just ridiculous as facts.

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could give an open ended opinion, but

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>if it's about your people, like you should really be

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 1>careful so you never that's like me judging like affluent

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:45.359
<v Speaker 1>black existence, like I don't know what they doing, so

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't talk. Let's say, to Oprah situation. All I

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:50.840
<v Speaker 1>know is what I hear. I can't say if she

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>supports the idea of reparations. I'm not saying she does

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. I don't hear her say it. So therefore

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be very specific. That's not something she's

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>speaking about out all the time, or in my opinion,

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 1>she's not speaking about.

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It enough to be in her position.

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but actually she's not speaking about it enough in

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>public or to my liking, in public.

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 5>So it's easier to say, you know, what they're not

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 5>doing versus what they're doing.

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, because you don't know, and you would have

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to be arrogant to carry yourself like you know what's

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 1>happening the things that I know specifically, like I know

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>people lying about how much money they make in or

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 1>what these deals are. And I say that I'm sure

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 1>of that, but I'm also not going to say a

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>million things that I'm not sure about.

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Why do people lie all the time then about that

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:42.399
<v Speaker 3>kind of shit? It's like this is it's it never ends.

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like this is going back to even like

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, like my like my favorite interview of all

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 3>time were Pimpsy accuses the industry of lie about fake

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.919
<v Speaker 3>dope crisis. There's always a lie about how much shit.

0:49:56.960 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Just say that because it's entertaining, because they know it's

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 1>easy at a time to say you got this much money,

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.240
<v Speaker 1>you paid this much money for a kilogram of cocaine.

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.439
<v Speaker 1>And Pimp is a real deep he like, I hear

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it all the time, but I don't think. I guess

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>because I understand, well, I don't know who's right or wrong.

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Pimp's thing was like, bro, why are you lying about

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the price? My thing is like I thought we all

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 1>know you learning about the price, so I could talk

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.439
<v Speaker 1>about it like everybody know you lying about the price.

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 3>So he should have scolded the audience, why are you

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 3>believing about this shit?

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:39.720
<v Speaker 5>What goes back to what you were saying earlier again, entertainment. Sure, people,

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, they just want entertainment. They just want magic,

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, and little number the truth is not magic.

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Well magic is not what people believe magic is.

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, well truth to them is not magic. Yeah

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:02.359
<v Speaker 5>said that one, And.

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>You can have this conversation a million times. But again,

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like you find yourself, you know, out it from those

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 1>people because they like, well, you blowing up our tricks.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>You messing our tricks up, you know what I mean?

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Like like in Ross position, You're like, man, Glass, you

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>messing up my trick. I'm like, bro, like it's rick

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Ross is outside. But then I'm starting to realize how

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>much people do not know when it comes to the

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:31.440
<v Speaker 1>street urban culture lifestyle.

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Really, a lot of people don't know where he got

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:34.319
<v Speaker 4>his name from.

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:35.439
<v Speaker 2>No, most people don't.

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 5>Wow, that's heavy, and when you talk about it, that's

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 5>that you get mad. Huh.

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:45.320
<v Speaker 1>So I think he understood people didn't know that, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why he named himself that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but the law of it, like he had to

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<v Speaker 5>name itself that because the law of who Rick Ross

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<v Speaker 5>was had to be out there already. He just didn't

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<v Speaker 5>grab some name with no meaning to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think Greek urban cultural people are are

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<v Speaker 1>one percent of this population in America.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, let me ask you this, who who is Rick

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<v Speaker 5>Ross really catering to with his music.

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<v Speaker 2>Buying the buying population Middle America?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so he could take that, I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 5>give it to Middle America.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's taking a street urban lure, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, give it to and then presenting this entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>package to Middle America.

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<v Speaker 5>And he don't like when you say that. No, the

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<v Speaker 5>truth is the truth though. No, they like no, they

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<v Speaker 5>like gee.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was realizing is like when Tupac must die,

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<v Speaker 1>people was like, man, why are you telling this story

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<v Speaker 1>about Tupac.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I'm telling this story about Baby Lane.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's important to humanize this person's experience on this

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<v Speaker 1>planet Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>In this situation, I felt like it was necessary. People

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<v Speaker 2>were upset. They was like, why would you want to

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<v Speaker 2>humanize the experience of a person that did this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, because like that's what hip hop is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a bad person. Yeah, it doesn't mean he

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad person. Yeah, don't mean it's a horrible person.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is the way culture raises us, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, this is how morality works in

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<v Speaker 1>this way of life, in this way of life. So

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<v Speaker 1>but I realized people didn't want to have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>They liked the magic trick.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because they got this I mix of two part

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<v Speaker 5>that nobody wants to change. And it's at this highlight

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<v Speaker 5>of his life that everybody only focused on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't get like those two things could all

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<v Speaker 1>be in alignment. Like, and that's what I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 1>realize people can't. It's like when Constantine and them sanctioned Christianity,

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<v Speaker 1>right and and h excuse me when they when they

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<v Speaker 1>they when they created the Counselor, and I see that

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<v Speaker 1>whole meeting that structured Christianity the way we know it today.

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<v Speaker 2>They knew human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to reference it as the greatest marketing meeting

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. Oh yeah, definitely, because they understood how

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus needed to be presented to bring peace amongst human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a crazy question, Pete.

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<v Speaker 5>Peace you think it was going at peace?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because at that time Rome was messing itself up

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to unite everybody in Rome under one idea.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's a question for you and Pete, right, would

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<v Speaker 1>you rather tell a lie and have.

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<v Speaker 2>The war at war? Have the world at war? Or

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<v Speaker 2>tell the Excuse me?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather tell a lie and have the world

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<v Speaker 1>at peace or tell the truth and have the world

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<v Speaker 1>at war.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a heavy ask question, So I'm asking what time

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<v Speaker 2>would you rather.

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<v Speaker 1>Lie and have the world at peace or tell the

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<v Speaker 1>facts and have the world at war?

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<v Speaker 3>It probably hinges on like the all like the reality

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<v Speaker 3>of reality, war and peace are temporary. Truth is more

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<v Speaker 3>durable than lie. So you have to presume that the

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<v Speaker 3>lie that sends the world to war would result in

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<v Speaker 3>a resolution, whereas the lie that sent the world to

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<v Speaker 3>peace would eventually expire.

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<v Speaker 5>So you would just you might change my position, Pete,

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<v Speaker 5>So you would just do what exactly you might have changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Up for I guess, I guess it depends on what

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<v Speaker 3>the lie is. But I always I'll go with truth

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<v Speaker 3>that at that point, what about you?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I can listen to Pete, you know, I might

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<v Speaker 5>have to go with the truth. But first I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go lie right now so I can have

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<v Speaker 5>some peace out there.

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<v Speaker 4>But then listen to to Pete and stuff. You're right.

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<v Speaker 4>Truth is gonna always come out in the end.

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<v Speaker 5>So I agree with you, Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>Truth, that's why King's the man, That's why it's so

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<v Speaker 3>pissed all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And looking out for tuning into The note Seller's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah