1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Week nine is in the books, 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: and we are back here with you on another episode 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: of Move the Sticks. What's up, friends, Great to be 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: back here with you. Red Lewis, Bucky Brooks, Daniel Jeremiah, 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: still on root back from Netlife Stadium, where let's just 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: say offense was challenging last night between the Jets and 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and let's kick this thing off here Bucky 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: by getting to our Monday night football recap, and let's 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: just say the pass abilities are not endless for the 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: Jets offense. They are, in fact, very minimal. And if 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: it's not Garret Wilson in the past game, it feels 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: like it's not working. And they couldn't even run the 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: ball last night. Either offensive line struggled and I felt 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: like we wasted a really good defensive effort. 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're Roberts Soliman, you you're just upset because 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: this is a game where defensively you played well enough 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: to give yourself a chance to win. Offensively, you couldn't 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: get it going, you couldn't run the ball. You turn 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: it over three times in the first quarter, didn't give 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: yourself a chance, gave up a big pup return for 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: a touchdown, which normally equates to losing. In the passing games, 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson didn't have enough time to really make plays, 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: so we can't even really talk about is he or 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: isn't he. He didn't have a chance because he always 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: had a defender sitting in his lap. Just a bad performance, 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: a poor performance from a Jets offense that is still 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: trying to figure out who they are, what they are 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: and how they can get it done. Just unperformed on 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: a major stage. 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that's that's a good point. And 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: to be fair, you know, the Jets offensive line, which 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, at full strength is you know, probably not 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: amongst the best in the league. But when it's not 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: at full strength and missing you know, two three starters, 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: Arry Tucker Al Beckton had to kick over the left tackle. 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: If you have the last couple of weeks, man, it 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: was trouble. You know, you had two Y two yek 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Poloto with two sacks, Boso with two, Khalil Knack with 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: two the turnovers. The strip sacks Now the one thing 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson can do and if you were watching 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: the Manning cast last night, you know, Hayden was let's 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: just say, very frustrated with the ball security within the 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: confines of the pocket Bucky. And that does go back 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: to fundamentals. 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes back to fundamentals. And he's always been 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: a guy that is more of a gun slinger when 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: it comes to the way that he played the position. 49 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: If we do it in basketball urnams, he's more of 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: a score than a natural shooter. He finds a way 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: to get baskets. But it's not always tech book. The 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 2: thing about that when you have someone who is very 53 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: loose with the football and very loose in how he 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 2: plays with zad Wilson hard to build a game plan, 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: how to build a playbook around him. And if you're 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: not good enough upfront to keep everyone at bay and 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: you don't have the weapons on the outside where you 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: can win a bunch of one on one matchups, it 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: just makes his life tough because he's trying to buy time, escape, 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: run around, keep the plays alive until someone can uncover. 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: But it takes a long time for these guys to uncover. 62 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I mean, like even on that 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: last you know, the second to last drive. The last drive, 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: you're just popping those checkdowns to Michael Carter, you know, 65 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: like they're going out of style, and you know, you 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: just they're just there wasn't those explosive plays that they 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: really needed, It certainly felt like. And then you know, 68 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: on the flip side, you know, the Jets aren't the 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: only one you know, that that can wear something offensively 70 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: here in this So Justin Herbert did not have a 71 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: Herbert like performance here. It was barely over fifty percent 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: completion in this game. And this Chargers offense now has 73 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: not quite performed the way that we expected it to. 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: You know, in that times it has certainly, but you know, 75 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks it's been a little different. 76 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it's been a lot different for the Charges 77 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: team because now what is happening. The tape on the 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: Charges has circulated around the league. Before early in the year, 79 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: you were trying to piece meal what Killing more to 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: do from his time at Dallas and what Justin Herbert 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: likes to do from his time being in the league 82 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: with the Chargers. Now we have enough evidence of watching 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: these two work together. Teams are beginning to understand the 84 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: concepts they like any tendencies that may show up when 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: they're beginning to study both of these these guys and 86 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: they're beginning to have a great understanding of the personnel. 87 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: That said, his disposal, is Kennan Allen able to go? 88 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: If he is Ellen Gill? 89 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: What does he provided? 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: What does Mike Williams do? How they wenna use Quinn Johnson? 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: And it goes down a list. They have performed better 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: against the Charges because they have a better understanding of 93 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: how they want to play, and because they had that 94 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: understanding and they're beginning to make costs, it really disrupts 95 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: the way the Charges want to play. 96 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: So when we look at this now with both of 97 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: these teams sitting at four and four, the Chargers obviously 98 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: with the with the win in this one twenty seven 99 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: to six, move into the tenth spot in the AFC. 100 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: So both teams definitely still on the outside looking in, 101 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: but it's pretty clear, you know, you'd have more confidence 102 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: in what the Chargers are able to do right now 103 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: because of the quarterback situation. Whereas we heard again what 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: was it postgame or pregame? You know, guys going up 105 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers. Hey, we know it was dertw with 106 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: James after the game comes up and says, hey, you 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: know when we're going to see you again? He says, 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, a few weeks, which again would be crazy, 109 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: But at this point, you know, when when does it 110 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: become like a lost cause for the Jets and for 111 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to try to get this thing back and 112 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: can they hold serve now based on what we're seeing 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: with this offensive line with Zach Wilson, you know, when 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: they can't have it going on offense the way they 115 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: need to. 116 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: Well, look, I think it is probably situation critical. You 117 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: probably have about four weeks before he has to go 118 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: into the mix. You got to give him a chance 119 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: to have an impact on the game. And the biggest 120 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: impact that you can have is you win the one 121 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: that he's playing, He'll win the next one, and then 122 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: you're hoping that the league does with solid and some 123 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: gays kind of come back to the pack. It's a 124 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: really interesting situation scenario when we look at this team 125 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: and how this team wants to get down. But look, 126 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: it's gonna take a while for the Jets to kind 127 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: of get back on top, and they're going to need 128 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: more than Aaron Rodgers coming back, They're going to need 129 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: the defense to play like the first team defense and 130 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: the second team offense where they are scoring points on 131 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: these hidden phases of the game offensively, they won't be 132 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: able to score enough points to get in them. 133 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: So just looking at the next couple of games here 134 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: for the Jets, They're gonna go to Las Vegas on 135 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football to take on you know, a definitely 136 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: new look Raiders team with Todio Pierce running the show 137 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: there at head coach. Then they got to go to 138 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: Buffalo to take on the Bills. Look, the Bills have 139 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: been up and down this year, but certainly capable of 140 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: winning that game. And then the Dolphins, you know, with 141 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: the explosive ability that they have, can get the Jets 142 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: score enough points to keep pace there. And then Atlanta, 143 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Houston and Miami again. So if you're talking about you know, 144 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: mid December as a potential spot for Aaron Rodgers to 145 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: come back, I mean, you've at least got to win 146 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: three of your next five. It feels like to have 147 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: a shot. And so we'll see if the Jets can 148 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: ultimately get that done. Okay, let's move it on here 149 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: as we get to our rookie draft and boy Bucky on. 150 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: Oh you know the old goose egg. 151 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Not great for you there, pal, But you know the 152 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: good news is you guys decided at the last second 153 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: to bring back the quarterbacks into the mix. And you know, 154 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: clearly I was rolling with my guy CJ. Stroud, So 155 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: that got me the three. We talked about that on 156 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: the pot on Monday. Jordan Addison also gets me three 157 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: from the receiver spot. So you know, I'm just curious 158 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: because obviously I wasn't here last week, Bucky, how did DJ? 159 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Did DJ really appreciate my nine point outing from last 160 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: week that now has me all the way up at 161 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: number two, two points behind him in the standing seat. 162 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I just want to know did he appreciate that fully? 163 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 2: He didn't appreciate it. But much like Big Ten officials 164 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: are trying to figure out what to do with Michigan, 165 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: I am trying to figure out what to do with 166 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: you with these late ads, these clandestine texts that are 167 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: going to draw where he's picking guys that are maybe 168 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: on or off the board, and you know, we're kind 169 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: of stealing signs along the way. So we're just trying 170 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: to figure out how all of a sudden, Rhett, who 171 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: was last, is really closed the gap and it's close 172 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: to being first. I just don't understand like some of 173 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: the new rules that are kind of in play, because 174 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: I thought were talking about quarterbacks one week, then quarterbacks 175 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: are not on the board, but then they're back on 176 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: the board. Just need clarity, just clarity, ecnsigency so we 177 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: can play within the rules and kind of figure out 178 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: a way to be able to get it right. 179 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: Well, look, as a you know, as a really good, 180 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, head football coach like you are, Bucky, I mean, 181 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, you got to be flexible and you've got 182 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: to be willing to figure out a way to maximize 183 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: your team's ability. And that that's what I think has 184 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: ultimately been lacking for you these last couple of weeks. 185 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: I have no doubt you're going to get things back 186 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: on track. It just might be too little, too late. 187 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: But the good news is, but you do have the 188 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: first pick in this week's draft, So it's gonna go Bucky, 189 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: and then it's gonna come to me. And then producer 190 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: Drew has DJ's pre rankings of his rookies for this week, 191 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: and so we will get DJ back to back picks 192 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: at three and four and then it'll swing back and 193 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: snake as it usually does. So this is what we're 194 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: doing this week. We're going quarterback, We're going running back, 195 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: and then you have the choice on the pass catcher, 196 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: can go receiver or tight end. Let's get the buys 197 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: out here, Bucky, and just make sure we're all on 198 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: the same page here, No pokinakua. This week. The Rams 199 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: are on a buy and let's see who else is 200 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: on the bye. We've got the Dolphins on a bye, 201 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Eagles. So wow, some star power 202 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: on the sidelines here this week. In week ten, Sorry, Bucky, 203 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: you are up pick number one of the draft. Where 204 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: you head it? 205 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna go with the biggest star in the 206 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: league right now. The young c J. Stroud will now 207 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: come on to Team BB and they'll try and help 208 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: me get out of this rut. And they're playing better 209 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: because CJ. Stroud is look dealing. He's dealing from the pocket. 210 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: You have a lot of confidence that he's always gonna 211 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: keep your team in the mix. When Lama bestowed the 212 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: same confidence on him, he is going to help me 213 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: climb out of the cellar and get back to being 214 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: a very very competitive team. 215 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So that brings me up here at number two. 216 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: So Bucky going with Stroud certainly a good choice there 217 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: with the number one pick. Now, this is kind of 218 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: interesting here because there's some tough matchups this week. Stroud 219 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: going against the Bengals by the way, tough defense, and 220 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: lou Ana Rimo over there. There's any number of rookies 221 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: that could ultimately end up starting this week. Although I 222 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: think Clayton Tune is down and so Kyler Murray is 223 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: gonna start for the Cardinals this week. I'm not gonna 224 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: go with Aidan O'Connell against this Jets defense. I'm not 225 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: sure I'm ready for that one just yet. So as 226 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: we go with the quarterbacks, I kind of feel like 227 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: the way that CJ. Stroud carved up the Bucks defense 228 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: last week, I might want to go Will Levis here 229 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans going to Tampa here in week ten, 230 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: Or do I go back and get my running back? 231 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: You know what I think? Ultimately that's where I'm headed here. 232 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna go 233 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: and get Bijon. Give me Bijon back here. Okay, Bijon 234 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: is getting back into the swing of things against a 235 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: one in eight Cardinals team. Give me Bjeon Robinson at 236 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: pick number two, So Drew who we got for DJ 237 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: at three? So DJ is gonna go with Jamiir Gibbs 238 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: at three. Oh, he's going Levis. I thought I might 239 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: be able to sneak it, all right, So it's gonna 240 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: go Stroud Bijon, and then DJ, with his back to 241 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: back picks, takes Jamiir Gibbs and Will Levis Levis the quarterback, 242 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: so he's got his running back in quarterback, just needs 243 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: this pass catcher with the last pick of the draft. 244 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: So it comes back to me now pick number five, 245 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: and I am going to I don't need to take 246 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: my quarterback, and I can take my choice of the 247 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: first wide receiver or tight end off the board, and 248 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Tank Dell. Give me Tank Dell, 249 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: who was Tank Deale outstanding last week for the Houston Texans, 250 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: called the game winner from CJ. Stroud in addition to 251 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: another touchdown. So Tank Dell is my pick, which brings 252 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: you back up here, Bucky with a couple in a row, 253 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: two picks in a row, for you. 254 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, two picks in a row. So I'm sitting here. 255 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here contemplating who can I go, who can 256 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: help me get back on track? And so I'm gonna 257 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 2: just go and I'm gonna try and figure out if 258 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: Jordan Addison can get something that I know. Josh Dobbs 259 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: is coming in. They didn't talk to each other, but 260 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: they somehow find a way to make some connections. So 261 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: I will take him as my pass catcher. The tougher 262 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: thing is trying to figure out who to be my runner. 263 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs is off the board. I'm looking, I'm scrolling. 264 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here, lock the kids running, not a not 265 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: a lot of options. So I think what I'm gonna 266 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: do is because the Broncos come back. I think I'm 267 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: a gamble on Jalil McLoughlin to see if he comes back. Okay, 268 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: following the by if they can come back and get 269 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: me back on track. 270 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: How about that against the Bills defense. Okay, so that 271 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: means I need my quarterback. So his light in the pants, yikes. 272 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go with Bryce Young as my 273 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: quarterback going up against the Bears. I feel like that's 274 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: going to be a nice bounce back for Bryce who 275 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: threw a couple of picks, three picks really in this 276 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: matchup at his last game. So Bryce Young is going 277 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: to be my pick, and then DJ to close it out. 278 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,119 Speaker 1: It's going to go back to the well with Dalton Kincaid. 279 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: I think he's gotten the last couple of weeks, so 280 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: he is the only tight end in the mix this week, 281 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: even with Sam Laporter back against the Chargers. But DJ 282 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: is going with Dalton Kincaid with the final pick for 283 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: the Bills against the Broncos on Monday Night Football. So 284 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: there you have it. From CJ. Stroud to Dalton Kincaid. 285 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: We've got it working right there. Okay, So let's a 286 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: look at some of the offensive rookies we like when 287 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: we come back here on move the sticks, going to 288 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: turn the tables to the defensive side of the ball 289 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: and look at some of those rookie edge rushers. Check 290 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: in where they are at now just past the halfway 291 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: point of this season. All right, let's take a look 292 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: at your twenty twenty three first round edge rusher types 293 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: here from this last year's draft. As you look at 294 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: total pressures right now per Pro Football focus. There is 295 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: Will A. Anderson is far and away the leader of 296 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: the pack here. The third overall pick has twenty eight 297 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: pressures right now, Tyree Wilson and Lucas van Ness up 298 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: there as well as Felix an d. K Uzamo is 299 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: the last pick of the first round. But there's some 300 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: interesting kind of nuggets to get into with each one 301 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: of these guys, and let's start diving into it now here, Bucky. 302 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: And look, let's start at the top because we talked 303 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: a lot about C. J. Stroud early in the week 304 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: here and move the sticks and rightly so, I mean 305 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: we might be talking about not only rook offensive rookie 306 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: of the year, but like this guy that might be 307 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: inserting himself into the MVP conversation here with the way 308 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: that he has played. But let's on the flip side. 309 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Will Anderson I think has been you know, more quietly 310 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: delivering right on the defensive side with the pressures that 311 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: he has. He's playing anywhere between forty and fifty five 312 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: snaps right now, Bucky. So he is a huge part 313 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: of the Texans defensive effort. They rely on him to 314 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, really bring the effort and bring the pressure 315 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: and he's been doing, you know, a really good job 316 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: and run support as well. So he's kind of been 317 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: the complete player for them, and he is much more 318 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: than a rotational player like some of these other rookies. 319 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: So that's maybe why the numbers are a bit skewed. 320 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and numbers are skew because he's looked really really 321 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: product that we talk about. He has twenty eight precious 322 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: in this so this guy has seven. That's significant because 323 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: he also plays for a really good team. A good 324 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: team will give you opportunities to hunt the quarterback. When 325 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: you look at the other guys, some of them are 326 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: on losing teams, so you don't get as many opportunities 327 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: to get in their track stance and go hunt the 328 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: quarterback off the edge. The Niners have had the fortune 329 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: of being able to play in front, which will create 330 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: and has created. Now the Niners detectives have played in 331 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: more games what they won, so it's given them opportunities 332 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: to get after it. And so that's why you've seen 333 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: Will Anderson. But let's talk about him and his football character. 334 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: As much as everyone will laud CJ. Stroud about being 335 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: the franchise guy and what he's brought to the team. 336 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: Will Anderson has done that. On the other side, he 337 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: and some of his Alabama teammates have gotten together. They 338 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: just talk about like their winning pedigree, that attitude, being 339 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: able to come in and do those things. So as 340 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: good as he is as a pass rusher, he's been 341 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: worth his weight in gold in terms of the leadership 342 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: qualities that he has kind of given this defense. One 343 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: of the reasons the Houston Texas that bounce up automatic 344 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: quicker than we expected. 345 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: C J. 346 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: Stroud on offense, but Will Anderson absolutely getting the job 347 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: done on defense. 348 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got such a like, such power like 349 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: his initial his initial contact with offensive lineman or if 350 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: you dare tight ends creates such a shock and you 351 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: can just see it with the way that he generates 352 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: that force and it knocks guys back almost immediately. So 353 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: Will Anderson and c J. Stroud, I mean, just a 354 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: phenomenal haul for the Houston Texans right now. Not to 355 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: mention what take Tank Dell's doing as a third round pick. 356 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Let's move on here down the list. I'll come to 357 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: you here on on Tyree Wilson Bucky because you know 358 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: the seven pressures he's definitely been getting more reps as 359 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: the season has gone on. Obviously missed a lot of 360 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: the offseason in the summer with injury, but started to 361 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: started to work his way back here. I just think like, 362 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: ultimately the Raiders need more, Like they need more from 363 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson because Max Crosby gives you max effort on 364 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: every snap, takes no reps off, So you got to 365 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: get something else from someone else, and that person is 366 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson. How do they unlock that in Las Vegas? 367 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, now they have to find a way to really 368 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: unlock and it's one of the things that ap Antonio 369 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: Pearce will will try to do. They'll try and find 370 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: a way to put the young guy in situations where 371 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: he can thrive and flourish in those things. But one 372 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 2: thing I do know, and listening to Pierce talk to 373 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: his team, talk to everybody around Greider Nation impressers Tyree 374 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: Wilson's gonna have to earn the opportunity. It's not just 375 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: gonna be given to him because he's the first round pick. 376 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: He is going to have to play and show them 377 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: in short stints that he deserves more time. So a 378 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: lot of this is on him and when you go back, 379 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: you look at him a Texas tech look, big time flasher. 380 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: You are smitten with the potential in what he could be, 381 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: but didn't necessarily put it together to the same level 382 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: of consistency that Anderson did that we talked about for 383 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 2: the Texans. This guy needs to splash. He needs make 384 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: some splash plays because what will happen? And if he 385 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: makes a splash player too, he earned more opportunities to 386 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: get up to the passes, but it starts with him. 387 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: He has to be productive in a limited amount of 388 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: reps so he can earn the right to have more 389 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: opportunities to get up to the quarterback. 390 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: Moving down the line here a little bit. Lucas van 391 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: Ness is a name that I feel like just has gone, 392 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, totally untalked about for the majority of this 393 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: season with the Green Bay Packers. You know, it was 394 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: a first round pick obviously here and just has not 395 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: generated that type of buzz. He actually, I think play 396 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: might have played his best game in his first game 397 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: Week one, in that rivalry game against the Chicago Bears. 398 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: Played a ton of snaps use him and as kind 399 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: of that stand up right outside linebacker. And obviously he's 400 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: got to fight for snaps too, and fight for reps 401 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: with Preston Smith and with Rashan Gary, and you know 402 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: that's obviously a little bit difficult there. But he had 403 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: five pressures in his first NFL sack comes in that 404 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: first game, and then you know, the reps started to 405 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: come off a little bit, so he wasn't getting as 406 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: many opportunities. But then he kind of started the rat 407 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: back up here a little bit. I think what you're 408 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: seeing here with Lucas van Ness is what we saw 409 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: in the pre draft process. The strength in the athleticism 410 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: and the physicality is all there in space, and when 411 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: he's winning, that's ultimately what he's winning with. I think 412 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: as you get more seasoning for a young player like that, 413 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: and you can continue to work on your craft, I 414 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: think you'll start to see that unlock. I wouldn't be 415 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: shocked if Lucas van Nes comes back next year and starts, 416 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, a breakout type of campaign early on next season. 417 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: I think he's going to continue to get better. He's 418 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: just got all the tools, just got to be able 419 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: to put it together on a consistent basis. But there's 420 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: still a lot to like right there. And you also 421 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: saw them kind of use him a little bit as 422 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: a you know, hand in the dirt defensive end in 423 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: that scheme too. Wouldn't be surprised if we see more 424 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: of that as well for a guy who's six foot fives, 425 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty pounds. And then as we get 426 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: down the list here, Bucky, you know, Will McDonald I 427 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: think is a product of man just there's so much 428 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: depth with New York. He's not getting the opportunities right 429 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: with and Lost and Jemie Johnson, like the list goes 430 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: on and on, but then Miles Murphy and Felix and 431 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: Ydique Ozama kind of go in the opposite direction. Whereas 432 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: Fau and the reps are really coming down, he's not 433 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: seeing as many opportunities. But Miles Murphy, I played his 434 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: best game this past week against the Buffalo Bills. How 435 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: do you see that group of guys? 436 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is really interesting when you just kind 437 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: of look at this mix and you look at how 438 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: these guys have been able to get it done. When 439 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: you don't have the same opportunities as others, you gotta 440 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: flash and you got to kind of give coaches a 441 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: reason to kind of continue to keep putting you up there. 442 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: When you talk about Will McDonald joining the Jets and 443 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: you think about all the pass rushes that are into 444 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: rotation for the Jets, he was going to have to 445 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: be spectacular to earn more than a fifty percent share 446 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: of the playing time. Hasn't had those opportunities. Yeah, we 447 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: saw the pressures in those things, but he's going to 448 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: need somebody to kind of get banged up where he 449 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: gets more opportunities to play, and then when he gets 450 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: on the field, he has to take advantage of those opportunities. 451 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: We talk about the splash plays because Mike Tomlin always 452 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: talks about those those plays that show up on tape 453 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: that our game altering place. He's going to have to 454 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: deliver a strip sack for Smombles something in dead May 455 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: until the coaches fully trust him and put him in 456 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: an elevated role on the defense. 457 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, Felix and Udique Zama just four snaps in 458 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: Germany and just one more name though to think about, 459 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: and not necessarily on the edge, but has seen some 460 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: of that and it is beyond the first round, is 461 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: starting to get more of those reps. Tommy Watta Barre 462 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts a name to kind of file away. 463 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: Keep watching as the season progresses, especially as we head 464 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: to Germany once again this week. Set your alarm Sunday 465 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: morning football back for an encore Frankfurt exclusively on NFL Network. 466 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: You can watch with the world as Tommy watt Abari 467 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: in the Colts stace off against the Patriots. Rise, Shine, 468 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: and watch on Sunday, November twelfth, nine thirty am Eastern Time, 469 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: only on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus. Let's 470 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: talk Colts Patriots in Germany on NFL Network and streaming 471 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: on NFL Plus. Certainly feels like two teams trending in 472 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. Colts get a big win this past week. 473 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: Patriots another loss, and a loss that generated questions from 474 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: the assembled media in Foxborough on Monday directed towards Bill 475 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Belichick about his job security. Holy smokes, what world are 476 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: we living in right now where Bill Belichick is fielding 477 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: those types of questions? But look, the record speaks for itself. 478 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: It is not up to the Patriots standard. Do they 479 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: find a way off us soil to rekindle some of 480 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: that Patriot magic here, Bucky? Or are we just done? 481 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: At this point. 482 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: No, I think they found a way to get it 483 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: done against the Indianapolis coach. Part of the reason is 484 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: because Bill Belichick will find a way to make like 485 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: miserable for goaring to Minshew in the pocket. Despite the 486 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: superiority when it comes to their talent, even the level 487 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: of physicality that the Coats played with right now compared 488 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: to the Patriots. This is one that the game is 489 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: still decided about the play of the quarterback. I cannot 490 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: in good faith think that Garner Minshew is going to 491 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: find a way to kind of crack the code and 492 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: just unlock and unleash passes to the tune of three 493 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: hundred yards. To me, this is a close game because 494 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: the Patriots make it a close game and then they 495 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: find a way to steal it at the end. 496 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: And you know, you just kind of wonder what kind 497 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: of chess game does Shane Stikeen want to play with 498 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: the game playing here against Bill Belichick if he's worried 499 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: about what Belichick can do to Gardner Minshew in the pocket. 500 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: Does this kind of become, you know, one of those 501 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: let's say, old school Tennessee Titan with Ryan Tannehill games, 502 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: or one of those old school Jimmy Garoppolo with the 503 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: forty nine ers games where they just take the air 504 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: out of the football and run the rock with Jonathan 505 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: Taylor and Zach Moss, and you just try to find 506 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: a way to you know, shorten the game, keep the 507 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: thing closed, find a way to win it late. I 508 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: don't know, I could certainly see that happening with I mean, 509 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: because that's clearly still the strength of this football team, 510 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: even though you know Michael Pittman junior Josh Downs when 511 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 1: he's healthy, and you know they've proven that they can 512 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: they can move the ball through the air. But I 513 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: just I just wonder if you take the risk out 514 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: of this thing against the Patriots team that showed very 515 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: little on offense and just try to try to dominate 516 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: the clock and dominate the game that way with that group. 517 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised on that one, Bucky, No, I. 518 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised. And here's the thing when we look 519 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: at this matchup and look, those two guys would rate 520 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: amongst the top fifteen players in this game Japha to 521 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: Tatler Zagmoss collectively or being able to get it done. 522 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: Talking about a running a rushing attack completely turning around 523 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: when guys show up, So these guys can make life 524 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: tough on the pages and if they're committed to running 525 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: the football because they want to protect garn and Minshew. Yeah, 526 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: this game going to the fourth quarter being within one score, 527 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: but then it comes a matter of who do you trust, 528 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: who you count on, who do you lean on in 529 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: those moments. I'm gonna go with the Bengals like I'm 530 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: gonna go on the other side in a tough one, 531 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: just because I think the Patriots find a way to 532 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: continue to confound gonna mention and that's ultimately the deciding factor. 533 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: All right, Well, well, looking forward to it. It's been 534 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: a great atmosphere there and Frankfurt was for the Chiefs. 535 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins can't wait to see this one this Sunday, nine 536 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: thirty am Eastern Time, exclusively on NFL Network and streaming 537 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: on NFL Plus. Also be on the lookout. In addition 538 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: to a few more episodes this week here Move the 539 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: Sticks overra An NFL Plus DJ has got some real 540 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: rookie content coming out here this week, and he'll also 541 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: be back on the pod later this week here on 542 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: Move This Stick. So a lot coming up here for 543 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: you a lot of great stuff as we approach the 544 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: stretch run of this season, but for Bucky Brooks on 545 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: Red Lewis, thanks for being with us here on Move 546 00:26:47,760 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: the Sticks.