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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up Up, everybody, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another episode of the Season with Peter Schreger. Our

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Speaker 1: last episode was from the Combine, where we were detailing

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Speaker 1: all the things that we thought might be coming out

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Speaker 1: of Indianapolis, and now we're a week were removed from

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Speaker 1: the free agency frenzy, and a lot of things have

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Speaker 1: crystallized as far as NFL roster moves and where teams

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Speaker 1: are going and what directions they might be going. In

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Speaker 1: quick note up top, you might have saw the news

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Speaker 1: about my morning show, Good Morning Football, a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, moving from New York to LA I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to get into all of that and how that

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Speaker 1: went down and where we are now, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of things everyone's got to figure out.

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Speaker 1: But I will say in regards to the podcast, the

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Speaker 1: plan is to keep on rolling with the podcast. Now.

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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is going on hiatus March twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: and it won't be on air again until July twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: I believe, But I plan on doing the season with

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Speaker 1: Peter Schrager throughout drafts season, and it might actually free

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Speaker 1: up some opportunities to do even more with the podcast

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Speaker 1: in the short term. That means maybe more than one

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Speaker 1: a week, maybe more mock drafts, and perhaps bringing on

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Speaker 1: the best decision makers and best prospects in this draft

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Speaker 1: and really getting to know them. So I am excited

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Speaker 1: about the opportunity to blow this podcast out and give

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Speaker 1: it all the attention it deserves, because I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: there's this symbiotic relationship between the morning show which has

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Speaker 1: help led me to this amazing part of my career

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Speaker 1: with the podcast and all the listeners that we've gotten

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Speaker 1: and all the YouTube feedback, and what a success this

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Speaker 1: podcast has been through I heeart and now through that

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Speaker 1: news of the show going dark is what they say

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Speaker 1: in our industry. Couple months, I could sit in the

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Speaker 1: corner and wallow and try to figure out how we're

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Speaker 1: gonna make content, or we can lean into this podcast

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Speaker 1: and do more with Aaron, and do more with Jason

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Speaker 1: and really blow it out and make the most out

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Speaker 1: of it. And thankfully, the iHeart folks have committed to

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Speaker 1: doing everything we possibly can to really go big in

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Speaker 1: draft season, and that's my plan. So We're not going

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Speaker 1: anywhere over here. Promise you that we're gonna keep on

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Speaker 1: giving you guys great content like the podcast we have today.

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Speaker 1: Our guest in just a bit is going to be

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Speaker 1: Less Sneed, the general manager of the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 1: I've known Less for many years, going back to his

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Speaker 1: days in Atlanta. Less Than went to the Saint Louis Rams,

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Speaker 1: and in twenty fourteen, his third season with the Saint

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Speaker 1: That thirteenth overall pick went on to be a first

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Speaker 1: team All Pro in eight of his ten NFL seasons,

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Speaker 1: and announced his retirement on Friday of this past week.

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Speaker 1: And Less and I are going to go really deep.

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Speaker 1: I want to know everything about Aaron Donald. I want

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Speaker 1: to know everything about Aaron Donald the player, but also

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald the draft prospect, and what Less solved, because

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Speaker 1: I don't have any problem in asking how that all

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Speaker 1: went down, because if you go back in that twenty

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Speaker 1: The first pick was to Davian Clowning to the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: The second overall pick was the Saint Louis Rams, and

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Speaker 1: on to be the greatest pick of Lesneed's career. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna ask less all about it. I want to ask

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Speaker 1: as far as a NFL free agency, and Aaron wang

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Speaker 1: Kaufman is on here. Aaron's microphone is, of course opened.

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Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, I get a little ping on my phone

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Speaker 1: saying there's action happening in regards to Justin Fields. I

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Speaker 1: The Thirty's like Justin Field has been traded to the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: And I think the initial reaction is wow. And my

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Speaker 1: why this was so interesting from a Pittsburgh front office

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Speaker 1: The Broncos are like, we pay thirty eight million dollars

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Speaker 1: which was what was verbalized to Russ. Then they trade

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Speaker 1: big bucks. From a fiscal standpoint, this is as savvy

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Speaker 1: a move as you could imagine to overhaul an offense. Now,

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Speaker 1: they just need to get a wide receiver. I don't

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Speaker 1: Smith and then now you got Justin Fields. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: I'm torn. So Ian Rappaport reports that four different teams

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Speaker 1: were interested in Justin Fields, and everyone did Justin Fields right.

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Speaker 1: They got into a place I said he wanted to go,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine in a business as cut third as

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Speaker 1: blown away. I'm gobsmacked that Justin Fields couldn't net a

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Speaker 1: You'd rather Drew Lock than Justin Fields for a third

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Speaker 2: moment yep. And I was a lot of us in

427
00:22:24,226 --> 00:22:27,546
Speaker 2: the build were like, let me come on, Aaron Donalds

428
00:22:27,586 --> 00:22:30,906
Speaker 2: similar to Barry Centers. He's not flying to London mm hm.

429
00:22:31,426 --> 00:22:34,546
Speaker 2: But you know that's just not him and at some

430
00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:37,906
Speaker 2: point he will probably get on some platform or have

431
00:22:37,986 --> 00:22:42,066
Speaker 2: a press conference and and and discuss, you know, his

432
00:22:42,146 --> 00:22:44,386
Speaker 2: career in football. But it just seems so that that's

433
00:22:44,426 --> 00:22:46,426
Speaker 2: just who Aaron is. My wife, Kerra, who you were

434
00:22:46,466 --> 00:22:49,426
Speaker 2: just talking to, would definitely would definitely want me to

435
00:22:49,426 --> 00:22:57,306
Speaker 2: bring up uh, his family, h his kids. Uh. When

436
00:22:57,346 --> 00:23:00,306
Speaker 2: he first got to Saint Louis, he had his first daughter,

437
00:23:00,826 --> 00:23:04,306
Speaker 2: you know, his new you know with Erica. It's just

438
00:23:04,946 --> 00:23:08,306
Speaker 2: he's that kind of he's like, he's that father now

439
00:23:08,346 --> 00:23:11,826
Speaker 2: that right is laying on the carpet somewhere, playing with

440
00:23:11,946 --> 00:23:16,946
Speaker 2: his kids. And there's four things. How do you mix

441
00:23:17,026 --> 00:23:20,466
Speaker 2: that up? And that's a little bit who Aaron Donald is.

442
00:23:20,906 --> 00:23:23,146
Speaker 1: I get emotional because when you say that, you know

443
00:23:23,266 --> 00:23:26,266
Speaker 1: happens in twenty eighteen. And then it's in this quiet

444
00:23:26,266 --> 00:23:28,106
Speaker 1: burning and here we are in the media and we're

445
00:23:28,146 --> 00:23:32,186
Speaker 1: talking about Stafford finally gets a chance and Odell finally

446
00:23:32,226 --> 00:23:35,026
Speaker 1: gets a chance, and here's Jalen Ramsey and all along

447
00:23:35,066 --> 00:23:37,706
Speaker 1: it's the guy that's been there since pretty much day one.

448
00:23:37,746 --> 00:23:40,386
Speaker 1: And it's no really, the lifeblood of that team was

449
00:23:40,466 --> 00:23:43,226
Speaker 1: number ninety nine in the middle. Who's not the flashy

450
00:23:43,666 --> 00:23:45,946
Speaker 1: guy and it isn't the one that's causing headlines. It's

451
00:23:45,986 --> 00:23:47,706
Speaker 1: just the guy that goes out there and dominates every

452
00:23:47,706 --> 00:23:50,666
Speaker 1: single day.

453
00:23:50,786 --> 00:23:54,626
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's and then in between the rudy part I

454
00:23:54,706 --> 00:23:55,146
Speaker 2: brought up.

455
00:23:55,706 --> 00:23:59,266
Speaker 1: I think about that because I did a nice I

456
00:23:59,306 --> 00:24:01,186
Speaker 1: saw when she wrote in The Athletic about it, how

457
00:24:01,226 --> 00:24:03,586
Speaker 1: he's always had this chip on his shoulder. But less

458
00:24:03,626 --> 00:24:06,706
Speaker 1: I was at the Senior Ball that year, and I

459
00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:08,906
Speaker 1: did my mock draft that year and I eventually got

460
00:24:08,946 --> 00:24:11,746
Speaker 1: Donald and the teens, But at the Senior ball, I

461
00:24:11,746 --> 00:24:13,626
Speaker 1: look back when I wrote I had Aaron Donald going

462
00:24:13,706 --> 00:24:18,946
Speaker 1: twenty first overall to like Arizona, and I said, unbelievable

463
00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:22,626
Speaker 1: week at the Senior Bowl. Dominated on every single drive.

464
00:24:23,106 --> 00:24:25,306
Speaker 1: But is he too small to play in today's NFL.

465
00:24:25,386 --> 00:24:27,706
Speaker 1: That's the question that's going to loom around him. And

466
00:24:27,746 --> 00:24:31,586
Speaker 1: I feel like that never came up then ten years

467
00:24:31,586 --> 00:24:33,666
Speaker 1: of football, we never said Aaron Donald's just not big

468
00:24:33,746 --> 00:24:36,466
Speaker 1: enough to play in the NFL. So egg on my face.

469
00:24:36,506 --> 00:24:38,346
Speaker 1: And you know, to you who drafted.

470
00:24:38,746 --> 00:24:44,026
Speaker 2: I've mentioned that Aaron. And it's interesting and I get

471
00:24:44,066 --> 00:24:46,626
Speaker 2: it right in terms of shapes and sizes, and you

472
00:24:46,666 --> 00:24:49,306
Speaker 2: go to use analytics and data, he would be on

473
00:24:49,386 --> 00:24:52,746
Speaker 2: the shorter, smaller side of defensive limblan, So he's on

474
00:24:52,786 --> 00:24:55,066
Speaker 2: the left hand part of that. Bill Kirk. When you

475
00:24:55,066 --> 00:24:58,306
Speaker 2: bring it up to Aaron Donald, he always considered that

476
00:24:59,106 --> 00:25:02,706
Speaker 2: a strength. And by that he said, I usually played

477
00:25:02,746 --> 00:25:06,866
Speaker 2: against taller offensive lineman. So I was born with average

478
00:25:07,226 --> 00:25:10,346
Speaker 2: and now it was up to me to take advantage

479
00:25:10,826 --> 00:25:14,786
Speaker 2: of right, the blessing I was gifted with by being

480
00:25:14,866 --> 00:25:18,826
Speaker 2: shorter and smaller than everyone else. So he he his

481
00:25:18,986 --> 00:25:21,426
Speaker 2: whole our paradigm is Wow, is he going to be

482
00:25:21,506 --> 00:25:27,346
Speaker 2: able to overcome this disadvantage handicap? Yeah, and he was like,

483
00:25:27,386 --> 00:25:29,506
Speaker 2: wait a minute, this is an advantage. I would hate

484
00:25:29,546 --> 00:25:33,266
Speaker 2: to be big and tall. I could never disturb the

485
00:25:33,306 --> 00:25:36,986
Speaker 2: game like I do if I was taller or bigger.

486
00:25:37,226 --> 00:25:40,266
Speaker 2: So it's fascinating when you you chat with him about that.

487
00:25:40,746 --> 00:25:42,786
Speaker 1: What do you remember that Senior Bowl though, I mean,

488
00:25:42,986 --> 00:25:45,026
Speaker 1: and that he was unbelievable.

489
00:25:45,626 --> 00:25:48,226
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I think some of our guys on

490
00:25:48,266 --> 00:25:51,426
Speaker 2: the hall were. When he did retire on Broady, there

491
00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:54,666
Speaker 2: was a someone, right, social media can be good or bad,

492
00:25:54,706 --> 00:25:57,826
Speaker 2: and you know we can discuss that, right, whether it's

493
00:25:57,826 --> 00:25:59,826
Speaker 2: good for your mental health or not. But sometimes it's

494
00:25:59,866 --> 00:26:04,546
Speaker 2: very creative. But someone had cut up and tweeted out,

495
00:26:04,746 --> 00:26:07,386
Speaker 2: what have your Instagram? I'm not sure which platform was on,

496
00:26:07,786 --> 00:26:11,906
Speaker 2: but his reps at the Senior Bowl right, so, and

497
00:26:12,346 --> 00:26:15,986
Speaker 2: but that was a very dominating Senior Bowl. No one

498
00:26:16,066 --> 00:26:19,426
Speaker 2: could blocking Maybe Zach, if you go back and look

499
00:26:19,466 --> 00:26:22,066
Speaker 2: at the offensive line, there a lot of those players

500
00:26:22,186 --> 00:26:24,226
Speaker 2: from that Senior Bowl on that offensive line played a

501
00:26:24,266 --> 00:26:26,666
Speaker 2: lot of years in the NFL, Zach Martin being one

502
00:26:26,706 --> 00:26:29,266
Speaker 2: of them. I mean, in today's world, I don't think

503
00:26:29,386 --> 00:26:32,666
Speaker 2: Zach Martin or Aaron Donald even go to the Senior Bowl.

504
00:26:33,146 --> 00:26:35,986
Speaker 2: But at that time they did. I can remember at

505
00:26:35,986 --> 00:26:39,506
Speaker 2: the combine talking to every one of the offensive linemen

506
00:26:39,746 --> 00:26:42,866
Speaker 2: at that Senior Bowl, Zach Martin included, and they were like,

507
00:26:43,506 --> 00:26:49,586
Speaker 2: that's that's an alien. That's the single greatest football There's

508
00:26:49,746 --> 00:26:52,706
Speaker 2: no way you can block that human being. And a

509
00:26:52,706 --> 00:26:54,866
Speaker 2: lot of those guys, you know, some of them are

510
00:26:54,866 --> 00:26:57,186
Speaker 2: still playing, some of them had really really good careers.

511
00:26:57,226 --> 00:27:01,386
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's amazing because that combine he goes and kicks.

512
00:27:01,386 --> 00:27:02,866
Speaker 1: But and let me get to the draft. You guys

513
00:27:02,866 --> 00:27:04,906
Speaker 1: had the second overall pick. He took Greg Robinson, the

514
00:27:04,906 --> 00:27:07,826
Speaker 1: big athletic tackle out of all burn And then we

515
00:27:07,946 --> 00:27:10,146
Speaker 1: go through it and It's like Khalil Maco was five

516
00:27:10,226 --> 00:27:12,906
Speaker 1: and Sammy Watkins goes to the Bills and Mike Evans.

517
00:27:13,146 --> 00:27:15,866
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, Well, the only time we'll get

518
00:27:15,866 --> 00:27:19,586
Speaker 2: off Aaron Donald is someone who worked with us. He

519
00:27:19,626 --> 00:27:21,866
Speaker 2: is now, he's still a consultant with us. His name

520
00:27:21,906 --> 00:27:24,626
Speaker 2: is J. W. Jordan's. It's a long time with the

521
00:27:24,666 --> 00:27:28,026
Speaker 2: Colts with Bill Napoleon, and in that draft is our

522
00:27:28,066 --> 00:27:30,586
Speaker 2: whole goal. His kind of goal was let's be the

523
00:27:30,626 --> 00:27:35,306
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and draft two Hall of famers Ogden and

524
00:27:35,586 --> 00:27:40,186
Speaker 2: Lewis right. But I was telling someone the other day, wow,

525
00:27:40,346 --> 00:27:43,386
Speaker 2: did we have that up? Because we did it with

526
00:27:43,426 --> 00:27:47,266
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald. But if you look at those players that

527
00:27:47,306 --> 00:27:48,866
Speaker 2: were in and around the top ten.

528
00:27:48,786 --> 00:27:50,226
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of humility for you to say

529
00:27:50,266 --> 00:27:51,186
Speaker 1: that closed.

530
00:27:51,226 --> 00:27:55,506
Speaker 2: Throwing a dart and nailed the Hall of Famer. So yeah, so.

531
00:27:55,866 --> 00:27:57,946
Speaker 1: It's actually a really interesting draft. I went back, So

532
00:27:57,986 --> 00:28:00,066
Speaker 1: Clowney went one. He was everyone's you guys took and

533
00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:03,506
Speaker 1: we're still playing, right. Clowney was awesome this year. Clowney

534
00:28:03,506 --> 00:28:06,066
Speaker 1: had thirty had his most career sacks, I think this year.

535
00:28:06,706 --> 00:28:08,626
Speaker 1: And then you get Bortles and Sammy Watkins who are

536
00:28:08,626 --> 00:28:10,706
Speaker 1: out of football but had fine careers. And then you

537
00:28:10,706 --> 00:28:14,626
Speaker 1: go through guys like Khalil Mack, Jake Matthews, Mike Evans.

538
00:28:14,666 --> 00:28:17,826
Speaker 1: Then you get the Justin Gilbert Pick, then Anthony Barr

539
00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:20,066
Speaker 1: who had a nice career, Eric Ebron had a nice career,

540
00:28:20,106 --> 00:28:21,466
Speaker 1: Taylor lawan great career.

541
00:28:21,546 --> 00:28:23,066
Speaker 2: We're missing obj in there somewhere.

542
00:28:23,466 --> 00:28:27,066
Speaker 1: Odell is after Taylor Lwan to the Giants at twelve.

543
00:28:27,666 --> 00:28:31,226
Speaker 1: At thirteen, you guys get Aaron Donald. So yes, you

544
00:28:31,266 --> 00:28:33,746
Speaker 1: could have potentially had Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald. You

545
00:28:33,746 --> 00:28:36,466
Speaker 1: could have potentially had Jake Matthews or Zach Martin and

546
00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:38,866
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Of course we can go in million different ways,

547
00:28:39,066 --> 00:28:42,266
Speaker 1: but you get Aaron Donald at thirteen. When you drew

548
00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:45,266
Speaker 1: the board up, did you know like your in your

549
00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:47,546
Speaker 1: heart of heart's like, okay, we want Aaron Donald. Is

550
00:28:47,546 --> 00:28:48,906
Speaker 1: that one of those where the board to spell that

551
00:28:48,906 --> 00:28:50,226
Speaker 1: way and it's like best available player?

552
00:28:51,026 --> 00:28:55,906
Speaker 2: It is interesting. I can't say that from the beginning

553
00:28:57,746 --> 00:29:01,386
Speaker 2: we felt like that Aaron Donald was a beautiful, complimentary

554
00:29:01,426 --> 00:29:05,106
Speaker 2: piece to our defense and at that time coach Fisher

555
00:29:05,186 --> 00:29:09,066
Speaker 2: Jeff being a defensive coach we had at that time

556
00:29:09,226 --> 00:29:12,466
Speaker 2: Chris Long and Robert Quinn. We had drafted Michael Brockers,

557
00:29:13,106 --> 00:29:15,346
Speaker 2: who was also in the D line. But Michael Michael

558
00:29:15,386 --> 00:29:18,266
Speaker 2: was a very good run player, definitely affected the past game.

559
00:29:18,306 --> 00:29:20,106
Speaker 2: He's tall along. But at the end of the day,

560
00:29:20,146 --> 00:29:22,906
Speaker 2: when you played Chris Long, you played Robert Quinn, a

561
00:29:22,906 --> 00:29:26,626
Speaker 2: lot of qbs could step up right. They could Chris

562
00:29:26,626 --> 00:29:29,506
Speaker 2: and them could could do their thing. QB could step

563
00:29:29,586 --> 00:29:32,506
Speaker 2: up still make things happen. So there was that that

564
00:29:32,666 --> 00:29:38,706
Speaker 2: moment I think and maybe some of my sociology of

565
00:29:38,786 --> 00:29:41,306
Speaker 2: growing up that are spending a lot of years in

566
00:29:41,306 --> 00:29:44,826
Speaker 2: Atlanta playing Warren sapp where you were like, holy cow,

567
00:29:45,786 --> 00:29:49,626
Speaker 2: if you could if we could have someone who could

568
00:29:49,906 --> 00:29:54,066
Speaker 2: right disturb from the middle, what is that QB gonna

569
00:29:54,066 --> 00:29:57,026
Speaker 2: do in some of those known pasts. So he was

570
00:29:57,066 --> 00:30:00,706
Speaker 2: definitely someone that we targeted and felt like would be

571
00:30:01,506 --> 00:30:05,106
Speaker 2: right a beautiful symbiotic piece for that that defensive line,

572
00:30:05,146 --> 00:30:08,626
Speaker 2: and and the rest was history. Even with that with

573
00:30:08,706 --> 00:30:11,346
Speaker 2: that crew, even though we might not have had as

574
00:30:11,426 --> 00:30:15,546
Speaker 2: much team's success with those three, but boy, we were

575
00:30:15,546 --> 00:30:19,426
Speaker 2: a Ferocians defense for you. I remember sometimes the Saints

576
00:30:19,706 --> 00:30:23,146
Speaker 2: and they were really good back Coach Peyton there, it

577
00:30:23,186 --> 00:30:25,466
Speaker 2: was almost like they just said, Hey, we're just gonna

578
00:30:25,706 --> 00:30:27,866
Speaker 2: get in twenty one personnel and hand it to the

579
00:30:27,906 --> 00:30:31,546
Speaker 2: fullback and sure that Drew Brees lives to see the

580
00:30:31,546 --> 00:30:31,946
Speaker 2: rest of them.

581
00:30:31,986 --> 00:30:34,546
Speaker 1: Mike Kearney get the ball and just go up the gut. Yeah,

582
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:36,866
Speaker 1: something like that. That was what they did, just because you're,

583
00:30:36,906 --> 00:30:38,666
Speaker 1: you know, fearful of what's going to be coming of

584
00:30:38,746 --> 00:30:42,386
Speaker 1: you from those Rams guys. He's a rookie, you draft him.

585
00:30:42,426 --> 00:30:44,666
Speaker 1: I remember he wasn't in Radio City, and I have

586
00:30:44,706 --> 00:30:48,066
Speaker 1: a specific story about ty Barrell, the actor, being in

587
00:30:48,226 --> 00:30:50,626
Speaker 1: Radio City and being told you're not going to do

588
00:30:50,626 --> 00:30:52,746
Speaker 1: the Rams first pick, but you're gonna be on stage

589
00:30:52,746 --> 00:30:54,986
Speaker 1: and give the jersey to the guy their second pick.

590
00:30:55,026 --> 00:30:57,426
Speaker 1: But Aaron Donald wasn't there, so Tiberrell just never got

591
00:30:57,426 --> 00:30:58,906
Speaker 1: to walk the stage. And I love that story, and

592
00:30:58,906 --> 00:31:00,506
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's so funny that you make the

593
00:31:00,546 --> 00:31:02,986
Speaker 1: trip and all that he wasn't there, but he comes

594
00:31:03,026 --> 00:31:05,826
Speaker 1: to here to what were your first initial reactions those

595
00:31:05,826 --> 00:31:07,586
Speaker 1: first few days. Is when he shows up in Saint

596
00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:10,986
Speaker 1: Louis and here's our new prize piece of this defensive line.

597
00:31:12,426 --> 00:31:14,746
Speaker 2: Here's here's what I can sum it up by saying,

598
00:31:14,786 --> 00:31:18,306
Speaker 2: this and and let's this isn't the first few days,

599
00:31:20,066 --> 00:31:25,626
Speaker 2: this isn't necessarily the first year, second training camp August

600
00:31:26,826 --> 00:31:29,066
Speaker 2: after his rookie year, and so this would be initial.

601
00:31:29,146 --> 00:31:31,546
Speaker 2: This is just Aaron dolland who he is basically, who

602
00:31:31,546 --> 00:31:36,426
Speaker 2: he is in the building, who he is off the field.

603
00:31:36,506 --> 00:31:39,386
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys that would be on Friday night,

604
00:31:41,746 --> 00:31:48,346
Speaker 2: you may come in at eight pm and he would

605
00:31:48,586 --> 00:31:52,026
Speaker 2: still he had a routine where he would do sauna

606
00:31:53,266 --> 00:31:55,786
Speaker 2: and go. He would be there on Friday night watching

607
00:31:55,906 --> 00:32:00,106
Speaker 2: film an opponent maybe till eight Friday night in training

608
00:32:01,346 --> 00:32:05,986
Speaker 2: and or in the season. So the training camp story

609
00:32:06,066 --> 00:32:10,746
Speaker 2: is this Chris Long, Will Hayes and just coming off

610
00:32:10,786 --> 00:32:13,346
Speaker 2: the field one day at random August and just said, Hey,

611
00:32:13,986 --> 00:32:17,666
Speaker 2: all we're going to tell you is this is the

612
00:32:17,786 --> 00:32:21,026
Speaker 2: RAMS should just make Aaron Donald the highest played player

613
00:32:21,106 --> 00:32:23,706
Speaker 2: of football right now. He deserves it. I know you

614
00:32:24,826 --> 00:32:28,426
Speaker 2: didn't know the sound season. Yeah, Chris Long kind of

615
00:32:28,466 --> 00:32:30,466
Speaker 2: had a clue that I know you can't do it,

616
00:32:30,786 --> 00:32:32,986
Speaker 2: but you should do it. Like if you're ever just

617
00:32:33,026 --> 00:32:36,506
Speaker 2: going to break the rules and do it, he's the

618
00:32:36,586 --> 00:32:38,866
Speaker 2: one do it for him.

619
00:32:39,106 --> 00:32:40,426
Speaker 1: Is he one of those guys that you would see

620
00:32:40,426 --> 00:32:44,146
Speaker 1: stuff in practice that just everyone just kind of looks

621
00:32:44,186 --> 00:32:46,146
Speaker 1: at each other and gasps and says, what are we

622
00:32:46,186 --> 00:32:46,746
Speaker 1: watching here?

623
00:32:47,346 --> 00:32:52,706
Speaker 2: Well, the best practice story, we could go home. The

624
00:32:52,746 --> 00:32:56,266
Speaker 2: best thing that ever happened to Sean in his first

625
00:32:56,666 --> 00:33:01,106
Speaker 2: year is he was holding out because in OTAs with

626
00:33:01,226 --> 00:33:06,346
Speaker 2: no pads zone, you could not block it. He would

627
00:33:06,706 --> 00:33:09,866
Speaker 2: he just disturbed. You couldn't even he was in the backfield.

628
00:33:09,866 --> 00:33:12,186
Speaker 2: Every bole, I mean, you couldn't block and you had to.

629
00:33:12,706 --> 00:33:14,746
Speaker 2: Once you get pads on, people can hold and grab

630
00:33:14,786 --> 00:33:17,506
Speaker 2: the maybe. So I would say, Sean, you're if you

631
00:33:17,586 --> 00:33:20,986
Speaker 2: would if you would have not held out, you would

632
00:33:20,986 --> 00:33:23,666
Speaker 2: have lost your stinger, your dapper. You probably wouldn't have

633
00:33:23,706 --> 00:33:24,986
Speaker 2: been able to call a play. You just felt like

634
00:33:25,026 --> 00:33:28,946
Speaker 2: we couldn't even block anyone. That's that's kind of how

635
00:33:29,146 --> 00:33:32,226
Speaker 2: That's kind of who that human was. And I forget

636
00:33:32,226 --> 00:33:33,626
Speaker 2: the question and where I was going. I had a

637
00:33:33,626 --> 00:33:34,586
Speaker 2: really good story, but that.

638
00:33:34,466 --> 00:33:37,306
Speaker 1: One training camp story, I said, a practice Yeah, But the.

639
00:33:37,186 --> 00:33:41,026
Speaker 2: Best football story was it was probably an Ota, probably

640
00:33:42,466 --> 00:33:46,146
Speaker 2: probably a college free agent offensive linemen getting a little

641
00:33:46,146 --> 00:33:49,906
Speaker 2: bit of a scuffle, okay, and Aaron just grabbed his

642
00:33:49,946 --> 00:33:53,746
Speaker 2: face mask and with a flick of her wrist popped

643
00:33:53,746 --> 00:33:57,586
Speaker 2: the face mask off the helmet and then threw it

644
00:33:58,306 --> 00:34:00,866
Speaker 2: back at the guy like it threw it. But the

645
00:34:00,906 --> 00:34:04,466
Speaker 2: point being is this is this is all within the

646
00:34:04,586 --> 00:34:07,066
Speaker 2: last This is since we've been in the like, there's

647
00:34:07,106 --> 00:34:09,866
Speaker 2: a lot of technology that goes into those helmets. Like

648
00:34:10,026 --> 00:34:13,946
Speaker 2: you buy an NFL helmet right now, all the viewers, however,

649
00:34:13,946 --> 00:34:16,826
Speaker 2: many people are watching this, listen to this, Go order

650
00:34:16,986 --> 00:34:22,186
Speaker 2: an authentic NFL helmet and then set your timer and

651
00:34:23,066 --> 00:34:27,706
Speaker 2: see who can get the face mask off that helmet

652
00:34:27,866 --> 00:34:30,866
Speaker 2: as fast as possible. He got that face mask off

653
00:34:30,906 --> 00:34:33,146
Speaker 2: the helmet in one flip of a wrist, which is

654
00:34:33,306 --> 00:34:35,666
Speaker 2: probably but the cool things he kind of threw it

655
00:34:35,746 --> 00:34:37,226
Speaker 2: right back to him.

656
00:34:37,866 --> 00:34:40,626
Speaker 1: Go put this back together, screw it in yourself.

657
00:34:41,026 --> 00:34:44,946
Speaker 2: That's the freakish human thing that he definitely could do.

658
00:34:45,586 --> 00:34:47,226
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And then you can see the off

659
00:34:47,226 --> 00:34:50,386
Speaker 1: season videos of him jumping out of pools from a

660
00:34:50,426 --> 00:34:54,146
Speaker 1: standing bara jup like the athlete, forget the person, forget

661
00:34:54,186 --> 00:34:58,186
Speaker 1: the work ethic, forget the stuff the athlete itself. It's

662
00:34:58,226 --> 00:34:59,546
Speaker 1: alien stuff. Am I right?

663
00:35:00,226 --> 00:35:04,106
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's it. I think I'm I mentioned it.

664
00:35:04,106 --> 00:35:06,346
Speaker 2: It was as we talked about going back. I can

665
00:35:06,466 --> 00:35:12,066
Speaker 2: remember a little bit. Initially. I remember with Kevin denmoll

666
00:35:12,506 --> 00:35:14,826
Speaker 2: and he came in. We were in Saint Louis and

667
00:35:14,866 --> 00:35:17,346
Speaker 2: our office was right next to each other, and we're

668
00:35:17,386 --> 00:35:21,746
Speaker 2: what Aaron Donald happened to be on film watching him

669
00:35:21,746 --> 00:35:27,426
Speaker 2: and Kevin Kevin if you know Kevin like right, ADHD

670
00:35:27,666 --> 00:35:30,546
Speaker 2: whatever it is, curious mind. He can only watch so

671
00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:33,666
Speaker 2: many football plays, like you know, we can't really watch

672
00:35:33,746 --> 00:35:36,026
Speaker 2: ten in a row. It's a little boring per se too,

673
00:35:36,026 --> 00:35:39,546
Speaker 2: and it's too smart for football. But were, however many

674
00:35:39,546 --> 00:35:43,426
Speaker 2: plays we did ten fifteen twins, Like, man, that's a

675
00:35:43,506 --> 00:35:47,666
Speaker 2: heck of a highlight film. And I'm like, no, Kevin,

676
00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:51,346
Speaker 2: that's just a that's just a Saturday Pittsburgh against NC

677
00:35:51,506 --> 00:35:57,226
Speaker 2: State and every play he is in the backfield. So,

678
00:35:57,346 --> 00:36:02,266
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, he dominated the Senior Bowl. But I

679
00:36:02,306 --> 00:36:06,946
Speaker 2: can remember obviously blue about the combine. But the one

680
00:36:06,986 --> 00:36:10,026
Speaker 2: thing that I do remember going in and sitting and

681
00:36:10,426 --> 00:36:14,666
Speaker 2: mentioned in the Jeff was his short shuttle and three

682
00:36:14,786 --> 00:36:19,346
Speaker 2: cones were basically at defensive back levels. We had a

683
00:36:19,386 --> 00:36:24,226
Speaker 2: big had a big dB at the time, uh Tremaine Johnson, who.

684
00:36:24,146 --> 00:36:28,506
Speaker 1: Was his closest right to ten, but.

685
00:36:28,746 --> 00:36:31,786
Speaker 2: He had better three short shuttle Than and he was

686
00:36:31,866 --> 00:36:34,666
Speaker 2: starting for us to end up having a nic career,

687
00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:39,626
Speaker 2: got paid by the Jackets. I can remember uh sitting

688
00:36:40,506 --> 00:36:43,506
Speaker 2: at uh Man. What's the safe house in Indy?

689
00:36:44,106 --> 00:36:45,066
Speaker 1: Yeah, st Elmos.

690
00:36:45,506 --> 00:36:48,026
Speaker 2: Yeah, we hadn't gone to Indians so long. I forgot

691
00:36:48,066 --> 00:36:48,666
Speaker 2: about saying that.

692
00:36:48,746 --> 00:36:50,946
Speaker 1: So embarrassing up there, I basically have a second home

693
00:36:50,986 --> 00:36:52,946
Speaker 1: there with all the combined time there because.

694
00:36:53,946 --> 00:36:56,466
Speaker 2: We used to spend the day after the comb when

695
00:36:56,466 --> 00:37:00,226
Speaker 2: everybody left, we'd spend my night there kind of organizing

696
00:37:00,266 --> 00:37:03,866
Speaker 2: our faults. And I remember sitting it was probably Brad Holmes,

697
00:37:04,146 --> 00:37:08,906
Speaker 2: myself probably were office at a table and Warren Sap

698
00:37:09,426 --> 00:37:12,546
Speaker 2: was sitting next to us, and Warren and my wife

699
00:37:12,626 --> 00:37:14,866
Speaker 2: Kara Tight. I've gotten an old Warren a little bit,

700
00:37:14,906 --> 00:37:19,746
Speaker 2: but I can remember Warren just basically going sneak. If

701
00:37:19,786 --> 00:37:24,706
Speaker 2: you don't draft Aaron Donald, you're basically the dumbest human being.

702
00:37:24,746 --> 00:37:27,106
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, hello, But.

703
00:37:28,786 --> 00:37:30,746
Speaker 2: That's where we're going back to. This guy could really

704
00:37:30,786 --> 00:37:33,666
Speaker 2: really play football good, but went to the combine and

705
00:37:33,706 --> 00:37:36,506
Speaker 2: did some freakish things. So what you would see on

706
00:37:36,586 --> 00:37:41,546
Speaker 2: the football there is Wow, there's a freak there for sure.

707
00:37:42,026 --> 00:37:45,306
Speaker 1: All right, NFL Aaron Donald the super Bowl will run

708
00:37:45,506 --> 00:37:47,586
Speaker 1: the first one on the second one. What stands out

709
00:37:47,626 --> 00:37:51,066
Speaker 1: from on the field in those big moments and Aaron

710
00:37:51,106 --> 00:37:52,226
Speaker 1: Donald doing his thing.

711
00:37:53,546 --> 00:37:55,906
Speaker 2: I think the thing that that stands out the most

712
00:37:56,626 --> 00:38:02,626
Speaker 2: is if you talk about we mentioned earlier, right that

713
00:38:02,626 --> 00:38:05,706
Speaker 2: that void that burned, And then it came down to

714
00:38:07,106 --> 00:38:11,266
Speaker 2: what Sean talks about, situational matter, but being great when

715
00:38:12,506 --> 00:38:16,666
Speaker 2: when great is required, and and and then in Jordan's

716
00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:21,066
Speaker 2: Rodrique's article on Friday when he retired, you forget about it. Right,

717
00:38:21,626 --> 00:38:25,226
Speaker 2: We've all seen, even my friends will send me the

718
00:38:25,266 --> 00:38:29,106
Speaker 2: clips of right that have come out with Sean.

719
00:38:29,226 --> 00:38:32,746
Speaker 1: On that fourth down, Aaron's going to make a play

720
00:38:33,386 --> 00:38:36,586
Speaker 1: up three, Aaron Donald will make a play. And he

721
00:38:36,626 --> 00:38:39,106
Speaker 1: does it, and Sean says to everyone, I told you

722
00:38:39,226 --> 00:38:40,426
Speaker 1: he'd make a play.

723
00:38:40,546 --> 00:38:46,266
Speaker 2: But and Jordans it's called it's called stimulated the memory

724
00:38:46,266 --> 00:38:49,186
Speaker 2: of going And if you watch it on film. On

725
00:38:49,346 --> 00:38:55,266
Speaker 2: the third and one, uh, the Bengals run the ball

726
00:38:55,986 --> 00:39:02,906
Speaker 2: and Aaron Donald basically sticks one arm out and drags.

727
00:39:03,546 --> 00:39:06,666
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it was mixing. Maybe it was mixing a.

728
00:39:06,746 --> 00:39:07,986
Speaker 1: P run if I'm not mistaken.

729
00:39:08,706 --> 00:39:11,106
Speaker 2: On fourth down, but maybe it was p R. I

730
00:39:11,106 --> 00:39:13,866
Speaker 2: forget long story short. Both those backs are big with

731
00:39:14,266 --> 00:39:19,186
Speaker 2: one arm basically being double teamed, grabbed the guy and

732
00:39:19,346 --> 00:39:22,706
Speaker 2: stop the human from getting a yard. If they get

733
00:39:22,866 --> 00:39:26,266
Speaker 2: that yard, they got another set of four downs. They've

734
00:39:26,266 --> 00:39:29,066
Speaker 2: had a kicker who was very hot. So you just

735
00:39:29,106 --> 00:39:33,106
Speaker 2: think about again, this is all this human played football

736
00:39:33,146 --> 00:39:37,506
Speaker 2: for was to wear the ring. And in those two

737
00:39:37,506 --> 00:39:39,346
Speaker 2: it came down to a third and one in the

738
00:39:39,346 --> 00:39:41,466
Speaker 2: four feet. A lot of people might go, oh man,

739
00:39:41,506 --> 00:39:44,946
Speaker 2: it's one yard. He's probably looking at it like never

740
00:39:44,986 --> 00:39:48,706
Speaker 2: asking that. You know what good it's they need one,

741
00:39:48,746 --> 00:39:52,146
Speaker 2: they're not getting one. They're not getting one on fourth.

742
00:39:52,186 --> 00:39:56,946
Speaker 2: That's that's him. There's a lot of highlights you can

743
00:39:57,786 --> 00:40:05,386
Speaker 2: but again, the moment, the situation that play those two plays, right.

744
00:40:06,106 --> 00:40:09,426
Speaker 1: I don't memory. Okay, So we have access to all

745
00:40:09,466 --> 00:40:11,186
Speaker 1: the NFL films and all the game tape, and I've

746
00:40:11,186 --> 00:40:13,306
Speaker 1: got an amazing producer on Good Morning Football guy named

747
00:40:13,346 --> 00:40:15,106
Speaker 1: Steve Corn and I was like, can you go back

748
00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:17,106
Speaker 1: and watch there's a game that you guys played against

749
00:40:17,146 --> 00:40:20,706
Speaker 1: Tampa where there was rain delay because of lightning twenty

750
00:40:21,786 --> 00:40:26,186
Speaker 1: and I specifically remember Aaron Donald lining up at outside linebacker.

751
00:40:27,066 --> 00:40:28,826
Speaker 1: Is this a figment of my imaginate. We went back.

752
00:40:28,866 --> 00:40:31,426
Speaker 1: I couldn't find a playing the show. But like that,

753
00:40:31,626 --> 00:40:33,786
Speaker 1: I think he played like two different series that outside

754
00:40:33,786 --> 00:40:36,306
Speaker 1: linebacker in a three four alignment. Am I crazier? Did

755
00:40:36,346 --> 00:40:37,506
Speaker 1: that happens?

756
00:40:37,626 --> 00:40:40,666
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that happened. I can't. I don't necessarily

757
00:40:40,706 --> 00:40:41,146
Speaker 2: remember that.

758
00:40:41,226 --> 00:40:41,986
Speaker 1: I couldn't find it.

759
00:40:42,306 --> 00:40:46,346
Speaker 2: I remember the long delay in Tampa. But yes, I

760
00:40:46,466 --> 00:40:51,346
Speaker 2: know there were definitely times when different coordinators would try

761
00:40:51,386 --> 00:40:53,386
Speaker 2: to match up Aaron versus you know.

762
00:40:53,546 --> 00:40:54,226
Speaker 1: Think about that.

763
00:40:54,506 --> 00:40:56,466
Speaker 2: I find a little bit of a weaker link on

764
00:40:56,466 --> 00:40:57,026
Speaker 2: the oil.

765
00:40:57,306 --> 00:40:59,146
Speaker 1: Are there any defensive tackles in the history of the

766
00:40:59,146 --> 00:41:02,946
Speaker 1: sport who would move out to olb? Oh?

767
00:41:03,226 --> 00:41:06,986
Speaker 2: This one's he's a free he's a streak. I remember

768
00:41:07,026 --> 00:41:11,066
Speaker 2: when I mentioned to Jeff that, hey, this guy can

769
00:41:11,186 --> 00:41:14,386
Speaker 2: you know, basically has three comb short shuttles at BB levels.

770
00:41:14,426 --> 00:41:16,026
Speaker 2: He says, what do you what do you want to

771
00:41:16,066 --> 00:41:21,866
Speaker 2: do playing with Nickel? You know, maybe maybe come on

772
00:41:22,186 --> 00:41:22,666
Speaker 2: third down.

773
00:41:22,706 --> 00:41:26,586
Speaker 1: I showed the I showed the two Yeah, let's go.

774
00:41:26,946 --> 00:41:28,986
Speaker 1: I showed the two plays today. There was a fumble

775
00:41:29,026 --> 00:41:36,946
Speaker 1: recovery against the Seahawks in twenty twenty one, maybe where

776
00:41:36,946 --> 00:41:38,546
Speaker 1: he tosses the dude on the sideline where he gets

777
00:41:38,586 --> 00:41:40,666
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and there's another fumble recovery

778
00:41:40,706 --> 00:41:42,906
Speaker 1: he has earlier in his career where he's get the

779
00:41:42,946 --> 00:41:45,466
Speaker 1: ball in his hands in the runner And I said,

780
00:41:45,466 --> 00:41:47,266
Speaker 1: if I have one great regret about Aaron Donald's career,

781
00:41:47,346 --> 00:41:49,986
Speaker 1: we never saw him in that, in that short yardage

782
00:41:50,066 --> 00:41:52,466
Speaker 1: running back role, but holy crap, can he just do

783
00:41:52,586 --> 00:41:52,986
Speaker 1: that too?

784
00:41:55,506 --> 00:41:58,106
Speaker 2: Yes? Uh, my wife care I've mentioned a few times,

785
00:41:58,186 --> 00:42:03,066
Speaker 2: you know, we know or she's always wondered, why didn't

786
00:42:03,146 --> 00:42:06,866
Speaker 2: y'all play Aaron Donald at running back on the goal

787
00:42:06,906 --> 00:42:09,106
Speaker 2: on I'm like, well mentioned it to Shan. He says,

788
00:42:09,146 --> 00:42:11,306
Speaker 2: you know, we don't have a goal on offense. Okay,

789
00:42:11,546 --> 00:42:14,386
Speaker 2: we don't have a goal. But I'm like, so obviously

790
00:42:14,586 --> 00:42:17,866
Speaker 2: with our ties at Texas now and my step son

791
00:42:17,986 --> 00:42:21,266
Speaker 2: herd Son playing at Texas in the Big twelve Championship,

792
00:42:21,986 --> 00:42:25,346
Speaker 2: they got big Sweat a touchdown. Then maybe in one

793
00:42:25,346 --> 00:42:29,906
Speaker 2: of the final four games they got Bira Murphy. So curious,

794
00:42:30,306 --> 00:42:32,746
Speaker 2: See that's what Aaron Donald could do.

795
00:42:34,506 --> 00:42:36,666
Speaker 1: It was crazy when would get the ball in his

796
00:42:36,706 --> 00:42:39,066
Speaker 1: hands though, because he immediately both times and he's both

797
00:42:39,106 --> 00:42:41,906
Speaker 1: these long fumble recoveries, he takes a second and he

798
00:42:42,066 --> 00:42:44,386
Speaker 1: like looks at the field like he's Marshall Falk Dude.

799
00:42:44,386 --> 00:42:45,906
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna die, goes where to go? And

800
00:42:45,906 --> 00:42:48,306
Speaker 1: he's got nice footwork, and it's like, oh my god,

801
00:42:48,466 --> 00:42:49,706
Speaker 1: this guy could have done that too.

802
00:42:51,426 --> 00:42:55,946
Speaker 2: Missed the boat, the fridge, fridge, William and Perry, let's

803
00:42:55,986 --> 00:42:57,186
Speaker 2: go bring him back.

804
00:42:57,466 --> 00:43:02,106
Speaker 1: Let's go in the locker room with younger guys. I

805
00:43:02,146 --> 00:43:04,546
Speaker 1: get the sense he was a real guiding light. And

806
00:43:04,626 --> 00:43:06,426
Speaker 1: that's not a story that's been written a million times,

807
00:43:06,466 --> 00:43:09,386
Speaker 1: but when you see Kobe Turner and Brian Young play

808
00:43:09,466 --> 00:43:12,426
Speaker 1: like they've played this season, I have to imagine Aaron

809
00:43:12,466 --> 00:43:15,426
Speaker 1: Donald was a very, very big influence on both of

810
00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:16,146
Speaker 1: those guys.

811
00:43:16,346 --> 00:43:21,946
Speaker 2: We's fascinating. I think all rookies, especially at that age gap,

812
00:43:22,026 --> 00:43:24,066
Speaker 2: right Aaron going in his tenure, they're going into his

813
00:43:24,226 --> 00:43:28,146
Speaker 2: rook their rookie years. I mean, they've grown up watching

814
00:43:28,186 --> 00:43:31,346
Speaker 2: those highlights we've been discussing, so there is an element

815
00:43:31,386 --> 00:43:36,226
Speaker 2: of like, all, like, this is my teammate now.

816
00:43:37,506 --> 00:43:37,746
Speaker 1: Uh.

817
00:43:37,786 --> 00:43:43,146
Speaker 2: And then I think what's what's very very overwhelming at

818
00:43:43,266 --> 00:43:49,466
Speaker 2: times will be the moment they realize holy cow. They

819
00:43:49,466 --> 00:43:54,306
Speaker 2: go to the practice field and maybe they're somewhat early

820
00:43:55,066 --> 00:44:02,866
Speaker 2: and Aaron's been out there already and is sweaty, and okay,

821
00:44:02,906 --> 00:44:05,146
Speaker 2: that's Aaron Donald. Maybe this is. But then it's the

822
00:44:05,186 --> 00:44:09,226
Speaker 2: next day, and it's the next day, the next day,

823
00:44:09,826 --> 00:44:12,146
Speaker 2: and it's the next day. So at the end of

824
00:44:12,186 --> 00:44:14,426
Speaker 2: the day, there was not like Aaron doesn't need a

825
00:44:14,466 --> 00:44:18,666
Speaker 2: T shirt, he doesn't need a sign. It's more like, hey,

826
00:44:20,186 --> 00:44:24,466
Speaker 2: this is the standards being lived, and it can be

827
00:44:24,706 --> 00:44:30,306
Speaker 2: somewhat stressful, overwhelming. Aaron's one of those guys that, Hey,

828
00:44:30,346 --> 00:44:33,586
Speaker 2: on a on a Friday, he's gonna he's gonna want

829
00:44:33,586 --> 00:44:35,306
Speaker 2: to go in the weight room and work out like

830
00:44:35,386 --> 00:44:39,506
Speaker 2: it's a Tuesday in February or Tuesday in March, when

831
00:44:39,546 --> 00:44:44,546
Speaker 2: there's no football going on, you know. So that's the

832
00:44:44,706 --> 00:44:46,266
Speaker 2: new thing is that. I think it's we said a

833
00:44:46,266 --> 00:44:51,786
Speaker 2: little bit it was cool about post super Bowl post

834
00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:55,626
Speaker 2: let's call it super Bowl hangover coming into this year

835
00:44:56,466 --> 00:44:59,906
Speaker 2: and really sitting down on there and saying, Okay, we're

836
00:44:59,906 --> 00:45:03,626
Speaker 2: gonna need to go young less experience. Have a lot

837
00:45:03,626 --> 00:45:09,106
Speaker 2: of players on their rookie contracts and this this, this quote,

838
00:45:09,346 --> 00:45:13,786
Speaker 2: this sign is in the you know, it's it's ingrained

839
00:45:13,786 --> 00:45:17,066
Speaker 2: Dennis now, and it's it's a standard for probably every position. Now,

840
00:45:17,346 --> 00:45:19,546
Speaker 2: when we go to draft someone is he just said, Hey,

841
00:45:19,666 --> 00:45:22,786
Speaker 2: I'll partner with anyone, just make sure they care. Mm hmm,

842
00:45:23,186 --> 00:45:26,706
Speaker 2: sure they care. And if you get you're a rookie

843
00:45:27,346 --> 00:45:30,666
Speaker 2: and you care. Aaron Donalds one of those types like,

844
00:45:30,706 --> 00:45:32,946
Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily going to get to know your name

845
00:45:33,626 --> 00:45:36,626
Speaker 2: day one or two. I'll figure out whether I want

846
00:45:36,626 --> 00:45:42,026
Speaker 2: to learn your name once you show that you care.

847
00:45:43,226 --> 00:45:47,866
Speaker 2: And then at that point, uh, you're you know, tell

848
00:45:48,066 --> 00:45:52,026
Speaker 2: you man, you're in, but you better show you care.

849
00:45:52,266 --> 00:45:53,426
Speaker 2: You better not tell him you care.

850
00:45:53,866 --> 00:45:57,426
Speaker 1: I wrote that down lest I love that, I'll partner

851
00:45:57,466 --> 00:46:00,506
Speaker 1: with anyone, just make sure they care itselfless. But it's

852
00:46:00,546 --> 00:46:04,146
Speaker 1: also you draft the guy, you make sure he's made

853
00:46:04,146 --> 00:46:06,306
Speaker 1: of the right stuff, because you have to be made

854
00:46:06,306 --> 00:46:08,146
Speaker 1: it the right stuff to even be on my level.

855
00:46:08,466 --> 00:46:08,986
Speaker 1: I love that.

856
00:46:10,426 --> 00:46:12,946
Speaker 2: I'll paraphrase this. Even when we were hiring Sean and

857
00:46:12,986 --> 00:46:15,506
Speaker 2: we were going through the coaching change and you're you're

858
00:46:15,586 --> 00:46:18,626
Speaker 2: chatting with Aaron about what would you like to see

859
00:46:20,666 --> 00:46:24,746
Speaker 2: a new coach, and Aaron wasn't someone who's gonna be nuanced.

860
00:46:24,786 --> 00:46:26,826
Speaker 2: I'd like to see this and this. He said, Hey,

861
00:46:27,346 --> 00:46:30,986
Speaker 2: seems like that's y'all's job just make sure they're really

862
00:46:30,986 --> 00:46:33,226
Speaker 2: good and make sure they get us where we want

863
00:46:33,266 --> 00:46:34,826
Speaker 2: to go, and you know where we want to go.

864
00:46:35,906 --> 00:46:40,626
Speaker 2: And you're like, Okay, I get it, Like I'm a

865
00:46:41,306 --> 00:46:44,266
Speaker 2: I'm a Hall of Fame defensive lineman. Seems like you

866
00:46:44,266 --> 00:46:46,546
Speaker 2: guys are the ones that need to try to figure

867
00:46:46,546 --> 00:46:48,186
Speaker 2: out who to hire as a coach, just to make

868
00:46:48,226 --> 00:46:49,426
Speaker 2: sure the guys really good.

869
00:46:51,546 --> 00:46:54,146
Speaker 1: Albert Breer wrote about it, and I talked to McVeigh

870
00:46:54,146 --> 00:46:56,786
Speaker 1: on Friday about it. You guys kind of knew this

871
00:46:56,946 --> 00:46:58,866
Speaker 1: was the final ride going into this season.

872
00:46:59,586 --> 00:46:59,906
Speaker 2: Uh.

873
00:46:59,986 --> 00:47:02,346
Speaker 1: And Sean said a quote that I got goosebumps on.

874
00:47:02,426 --> 00:47:05,826
Speaker 1: He said that Aaron told him with his family situation

875
00:47:06,026 --> 00:47:08,266
Speaker 1: and with the Super Bowl ring and after that Detroit

876
00:47:08,306 --> 00:47:09,826
Speaker 1: loss in the playoffs where he left it all in

877
00:47:09,826 --> 00:47:13,866
Speaker 1: the field. The term was I'm full. I'm good, Like

878
00:47:13,906 --> 00:47:18,146
Speaker 1: I'm full coach, I'm full. You guys kind of knew,

879
00:47:18,146 --> 00:47:20,706
Speaker 1: and yet what I so respect from your building. And

880
00:47:20,706 --> 00:47:23,146
Speaker 1: I've had Kevin Demboff as a podcast guest, and I've

881
00:47:23,146 --> 00:47:25,226
Speaker 1: hosted a podcast with Sean and you and I go

882
00:47:25,306 --> 00:47:28,786
Speaker 1: back so long, and you've been on this. It didn't

883
00:47:28,986 --> 00:47:31,306
Speaker 1: make its way outside the building, and you guys kind

884
00:47:31,306 --> 00:47:33,066
Speaker 1: of kept that in house. I think that's pretty cool.

885
00:47:33,786 --> 00:47:35,626
Speaker 1: There has to be some sort of pride in Hey,

886
00:47:35,626 --> 00:47:38,386
Speaker 1: we're a family, let's let's keep it within us. So

887
00:47:38,706 --> 00:47:39,946
Speaker 1: it's on airon to.

888
00:47:40,786 --> 00:47:43,666
Speaker 2: I think it has to do with the respect Aaron.

889
00:47:43,786 --> 00:47:49,626
Speaker 2: We know, football ecosystems, even even when people I don't

890
00:47:49,626 --> 00:47:52,426
Speaker 2: want to call it leak, but sometimes leaks occur by

891
00:47:52,786 --> 00:47:54,586
Speaker 2: right people in football liked.

892
00:47:55,186 --> 00:47:57,586
Speaker 1: Yeah about change information football.

893
00:47:57,586 --> 00:48:00,786
Speaker 2: It could be like right in indeed, when you're all

894
00:48:00,866 --> 00:48:03,146
Speaker 2: duty per se and something gets said and next thing

895
00:48:03,186 --> 00:48:06,986
Speaker 2: you know, it travels. And I think with with air

896
00:48:07,026 --> 00:48:11,266
Speaker 2: and the respect that he had in our building, you

897
00:48:11,306 --> 00:48:15,506
Speaker 2: were good. It was just just like everything right. You Hey,

898
00:48:15,506 --> 00:48:17,706
Speaker 2: Aaron's gonna get to retire when he wants to retire.

899
00:48:18,546 --> 00:48:22,426
Speaker 2: That's and you know, you don't really need to have

900
00:48:22,466 --> 00:48:25,026
Speaker 2: any meetings and go, hey, make sure remember no one

901
00:48:25,066 --> 00:48:28,546
Speaker 2: talks about Aaron. It's it's really kind of he's kind

902
00:48:28,546 --> 00:48:32,146
Speaker 2: of one of those people. Okay, Aaron's gonna he wants

903
00:48:32,186 --> 00:48:34,306
Speaker 2: to do it this way, we're gonna allow him to

904
00:48:34,346 --> 00:48:36,586
Speaker 2: do it. So yeah, you're you're you're exactly right. Really

905
00:48:36,666 --> 00:48:40,986
Speaker 2: really cool to see that come to fruition. Now. I

906
00:48:40,986 --> 00:48:45,226
Speaker 2: did tell Aaron uh I called him and because I

907
00:48:45,266 --> 00:48:46,866
Speaker 2: knew I was doing the when we didn't go to

908
00:48:46,906 --> 00:48:48,946
Speaker 2: the combine where we're gonna sit with a local media

909
00:48:49,066 --> 00:48:52,546
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Aaron, you're making this really really hard.

910
00:48:53,946 --> 00:48:57,546
Speaker 2: He's gonna ask me about you, and I said, Aaron,

911
00:48:57,586 --> 00:49:01,986
Speaker 2: here's what I can tell you. I have no problem

912
00:49:02,026 --> 00:49:04,746
Speaker 2: just doing a bold face love for you, have no

913
00:49:05,106 --> 00:49:07,506
Speaker 2: but just want you to know you making it really

914
00:49:07,586 --> 00:49:08,146
Speaker 2: really hard.

915
00:49:08,826 --> 00:49:11,466
Speaker 3: I will lie for you, but it's not going to

916
00:49:11,546 --> 00:49:15,786
Speaker 3: be easy on that point. There was like a very

917
00:49:15,906 --> 00:49:18,546
Speaker 3: quiet roster move on Tuesday of the week that I

918
00:49:18,546 --> 00:49:21,226
Speaker 3: feel like people didn't pick up on, like you guys kind.

919
00:49:21,066 --> 00:49:24,866
Speaker 2: Of restructors is probably one of the let's call it,

920
00:49:24,946 --> 00:49:28,706
Speaker 2: highlights of his career to be able to engineer that

921
00:49:29,026 --> 00:49:31,906
Speaker 2: so few others.

922
00:49:32,666 --> 00:49:37,906
Speaker 1: Friday explain it for explain it for the listening usually

923
00:49:37,946 --> 00:49:41,186
Speaker 1: gets that whole transcript from someone and he just reports

924
00:49:41,226 --> 00:49:44,546
Speaker 1: on the minutia of the transaction wire. And yet this

925
00:49:44,626 --> 00:49:49,026
Speaker 1: one Aaron Donald restructure kind of falls within which wide

926
00:49:49,066 --> 00:49:51,866
Speaker 1: Receiver three is signing with some team and free agent

927
00:49:51,946 --> 00:49:55,026
Speaker 1: Frenzy explain the little maneuver you guys did and.

928
00:49:55,386 --> 00:49:57,946
Speaker 2: I can't explain that maneuver. That's we got to bring

929
00:49:58,026 --> 00:50:00,546
Speaker 2: Tony on the podcast. You did a heck of a

930
00:50:00,666 --> 00:50:05,706
Speaker 2: job doing it on on football.

931
00:50:05,746 --> 00:50:07,186
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm reading about like.

932
00:50:09,066 --> 00:50:12,146
Speaker 2: But like you said, you summed it up right. It

933
00:50:12,186 --> 00:50:14,786
Speaker 2: was a salary cap mechanism that was kind of always

934
00:50:14,826 --> 00:50:18,826
Speaker 2: somewhat planned be able to give him, you know, the

935
00:50:18,546 --> 00:50:21,866
Speaker 2: the bonus that he had deserved. We'd always talked about

936
00:50:21,906 --> 00:50:24,066
Speaker 2: this being a two year thing and and whether he'd

937
00:50:24,106 --> 00:50:25,626
Speaker 2: have played or not this year you would have had

938
00:50:25,626 --> 00:50:29,306
Speaker 2: to figure out year three. So something was coming. Uh.

939
00:50:29,546 --> 00:50:33,866
Speaker 1: But nice work, and now there's a little bore. Now

940
00:50:33,866 --> 00:50:35,906
Speaker 1: there's a little room to not only make a move,

941
00:50:35,946 --> 00:50:38,066
Speaker 1: but you guys can kind of do your defense at a

942
00:50:38,106 --> 00:50:40,906
Speaker 1: post Aaron Donald roll without the pressures of oh my god,

943
00:50:40,986 --> 00:50:43,546
Speaker 1: we're paying him thirty nine million this year and we've

944
00:50:43,586 --> 00:50:45,706
Speaker 1: got this this albatross around us for a guy out

945
00:50:45,746 --> 00:50:46,866
Speaker 1: of this team. It was pretty great.

946
00:50:48,146 --> 00:50:50,026
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the mantra in our building now

947
00:50:50,026 --> 00:50:53,826
Speaker 2: because I think I said it a little bit to

948
00:50:54,386 --> 00:51:00,026
Speaker 2: match Aaron's very right concise way of going about his business.

949
00:51:00,026 --> 00:51:02,746
Speaker 2: But and I've said, hey that it really is true.

950
00:51:02,786 --> 00:51:05,946
Speaker 2: There's well there will never be another Aaron Donald. So

951
00:51:06,506 --> 00:51:08,626
Speaker 2: are the journey's not okay? We got to go find

952
00:51:08,626 --> 00:51:12,866
Speaker 2: our next Aaron Donald. Like that, that is not happening.

953
00:51:12,906 --> 00:51:16,426
Speaker 2: There's not another one on the planet. So guess what,

954
00:51:16,586 --> 00:51:22,146
Speaker 2: Let's go find good defensive players and begin the next chapter.

955
00:51:22,226 --> 00:51:24,506
Speaker 2: But we're not looking for the next Aaron Donald. He

956
00:51:24,546 --> 00:51:25,466
Speaker 2: does doesn't exist.

957
00:51:26,386 --> 00:51:30,546
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna rap with two quick ones. One I

958
00:51:30,586 --> 00:51:32,506
Speaker 1: said on the show. He can go coach, he can

959
00:51:32,586 --> 00:51:35,506
Speaker 1: go back to Pittsburgh, he can go into wherever he

960
00:51:35,546 --> 00:51:37,186
Speaker 1: wants to go and live a life like you said,

961
00:51:37,226 --> 00:51:39,586
Speaker 1: cuddling with kids on the couch. I I through about

962
00:51:39,666 --> 00:51:42,266
Speaker 1: something that I've gotten a lot of negative pushback, not

963
00:51:42,386 --> 00:51:44,186
Speaker 1: on Aaron but on me, saying, well, you clearly don't

964
00:51:44,186 --> 00:51:47,106
Speaker 1: know Aaron Donald. But I said, after all these years

965
00:51:47,146 --> 00:51:50,786
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and his reputation is such an incredibly

966
00:51:50,826 --> 00:51:54,266
Speaker 1: beloved player. He's done, done everything, always were right, and

967
00:51:54,386 --> 00:51:57,906
Speaker 1: with his physique and his build, and with Hollywood now

968
00:51:57,946 --> 00:52:01,466
Speaker 1: banking on superheroes and action stars and there's no more

969
00:52:01,586 --> 00:52:05,066
Speaker 1: romantic comedies and small budget films, I would not be

970
00:52:05,106 --> 00:52:07,986
Speaker 1: shocked to see Aaron Donald in a movie a La

971
00:52:08,226 --> 00:52:10,826
Speaker 1: John Cena or the rock am I off my rocker

972
00:52:10,866 --> 00:52:13,426
Speaker 1: in that Aaron Donald could be a Hollywood action hero.

973
00:52:14,266 --> 00:52:18,106
Speaker 2: I think he definitely has that potential, right and if

974
00:52:18,146 --> 00:52:20,986
Speaker 2: I were, I haven't seen it yet, but I saw

975
00:52:21,026 --> 00:52:26,146
Speaker 2: the documentary, uh, and I'd love to watch it. Arnold Schwarzenegger,

976
00:52:26,426 --> 00:52:33,306
Speaker 2: I haven't hear it seems like that right, bodybuilder turned terminator, heck,

977
00:52:34,226 --> 00:52:39,906
Speaker 2: governor whatever. But point being he went from a bodybuilder

978
00:52:39,946 --> 00:52:45,706
Speaker 2: to terminator to write action figure megastar. Seems like Aaron

979
00:52:45,786 --> 00:52:48,066
Speaker 2: has that, so that'd big. I start with the documentary.

980
00:52:48,106 --> 00:52:50,306
Speaker 2: I know, I know the Rocks been in our building

981
00:52:50,906 --> 00:52:54,106
Speaker 2: filming things in him and Aaron working out so that

982
00:52:54,986 --> 00:53:00,266
Speaker 2: there's definitely it's a relationship and then you know, now

983
00:53:00,266 --> 00:53:05,466
Speaker 2: it's just you know, figure out. Pat McAfee said something

984
00:53:05,466 --> 00:53:06,986
Speaker 2: the other day and I'm like, you know, he probably

985
00:53:06,986 --> 00:53:10,586
Speaker 2: knows that world better than I do, but he basically

986
00:53:11,146 --> 00:53:15,146
Speaker 2: he probably I think the WMA that's probably something that's

987
00:53:15,506 --> 00:53:19,066
Speaker 2: that is that probably helps you become an act because

988
00:53:19,146 --> 00:53:22,546
Speaker 2: it is acting. But you take these and you learn

989
00:53:22,626 --> 00:53:26,106
Speaker 2: how to play a character right and snap in the character.

990
00:53:26,386 --> 00:53:30,706
Speaker 2: So maybe wrestling first in but in this world of YouTube,

991
00:53:31,386 --> 00:53:33,946
Speaker 2: Pat mcley truly said he could probably go in the

992
00:53:33,946 --> 00:53:39,106
Speaker 2: weight room, do a fee once a week and put

993
00:53:39,146 --> 00:53:41,466
Speaker 2: it on YouTube and it would get all these views

994
00:53:41,466 --> 00:53:44,466
Speaker 2: and he would just get paid for those views. I

995
00:53:44,466 --> 00:53:47,546
Speaker 2: have never had a YouTube video go viral other than

996
00:53:47,946 --> 00:53:50,386
Speaker 2: probably the cold strange one by.

997
00:53:50,306 --> 00:53:52,586
Speaker 1: Accident, which wasn't what you guys wanted to go.

998
00:53:52,506 --> 00:53:55,306
Speaker 2: By anything for it. But the point being is I

999
00:53:55,306 --> 00:53:57,026
Speaker 2: don't know that world, but it does seem like, okay,

1000
00:53:57,106 --> 00:54:00,706
Speaker 2: you can maybe maybe start with the YouTube feet of

1001
00:54:00,746 --> 00:54:03,186
Speaker 2: the week in the weight room, Aaron Donald ripped in

1002
00:54:03,226 --> 00:54:05,786
Speaker 2: a face mask off, it goes viral and then we

1003
00:54:05,826 --> 00:54:08,466
Speaker 2: go from there. But he definitely has potential that in

1004
00:54:08,546 --> 00:54:11,266
Speaker 2: his career. I mean, if Merlin Olson can do it

1005
00:54:11,786 --> 00:54:16,066
Speaker 2: right from my defensive line, La ram defensive line, and

1006
00:54:16,106 --> 00:54:17,306
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald can do it.

1007
00:54:17,426 --> 00:54:19,706
Speaker 1: There's a history got Merlin Olson and then I think

1008
00:54:19,746 --> 00:54:22,426
Speaker 1: of Fred Dryer Rams legend going on to be hunter.

1009
00:54:22,666 --> 00:54:26,106
Speaker 1: There's that a history. Here. My last one for you,

1010
00:54:26,186 --> 00:54:30,346
Speaker 1: and it's Aaron Donald related. You've had this incredible NFL career,

1011
00:54:30,706 --> 00:54:35,306
Speaker 1: this decorated life, charting your time in college to Atlanta

1012
00:54:35,426 --> 00:54:39,066
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis to LA When you look back on it,

1013
00:54:39,146 --> 00:54:41,626
Speaker 1: I know it's very reflective and I don't tend to

1014
00:54:41,906 --> 00:54:43,786
Speaker 1: take a step back when you're in the midst of

1015
00:54:44,186 --> 00:54:47,786
Speaker 1: free agency and draft planning. Do you think Aaron Donald's

1016
00:54:47,786 --> 00:54:51,786
Speaker 1: the greatest professional feat that you've had as far as

1017
00:54:51,786 --> 00:54:56,946
Speaker 1: player selections and assessing talent coming out of the college ranks.

1018
00:54:58,146 --> 00:55:02,466
Speaker 2: I think that's easy. Yes, I think someone. I think

1019
00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:04,586
Speaker 2: one of I think my kids asked me this weekend,

1020
00:55:04,626 --> 00:55:06,586
Speaker 2: are you going in five years or you going to

1021
00:55:07,346 --> 00:55:09,626
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame? And you know me a little bit.

1022
00:55:09,906 --> 00:55:11,666
Speaker 2: My kids know me. At the end of the day,

1023
00:55:11,666 --> 00:55:15,986
Speaker 2: I'm an introvert, and you know I would rather not.

1024
00:55:17,346 --> 00:55:21,706
Speaker 2: I'm just as good escaping to so cal and join

1025
00:55:21,866 --> 00:55:25,786
Speaker 2: the day and not partaking in. Oh, let's go to

1026
00:55:26,746 --> 00:55:28,666
Speaker 2: this party. Let's go to the Hall of Fame and

1027
00:55:28,706 --> 00:55:30,226
Speaker 2: go to this party. If I go to the Hall

1028
00:55:30,266 --> 00:55:31,866
Speaker 2: of Fame, I don't want to go to the party.

1029
00:55:32,226 --> 00:55:34,946
Speaker 2: Cara may dragged me to a party, but I'm getting

1030
00:55:34,986 --> 00:55:38,186
Speaker 2: drugged to the party, you know what I mean. So,

1031
00:55:38,226 --> 00:55:40,826
Speaker 2: but at the end, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll be

1032
00:55:40,906 --> 00:55:43,666
Speaker 2: there for that one for sure.

1033
00:55:45,546 --> 00:55:48,186
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. What a football life less. I'm gonna have you

1034
00:55:48,266 --> 00:55:50,466
Speaker 1: on again and we're going to talk things like Stafford

1035
00:55:50,546 --> 00:55:53,946
Speaker 1: and you know Kevin Dotson and Jonathan Jackson what we're

1036
00:55:53,946 --> 00:55:55,946
Speaker 1: building on the offensive line, but I thought it would

1037
00:55:55,946 --> 00:55:59,586
Speaker 1: be only appropriate to go all Aaron Donald on this sucker,

1038
00:55:59,706 --> 00:56:01,946
Speaker 1: and my gosh, we went forty five minutes, and I

1039
00:56:01,986 --> 00:56:03,866
Speaker 1: feel like we could have done forty five minutes more.

1040
00:56:04,186 --> 00:56:07,466
Speaker 1: Any closing words on the Aaron Donald era in Saint

1041
00:56:07,546 --> 00:56:12,106
Speaker 1: Louis and LA. For listeners at home, we.

1042
00:56:12,106 --> 00:56:18,386
Speaker 2: Throw around the word rare, unique, often sometimes too much,

1043
00:56:18,426 --> 00:56:25,306
Speaker 2: but he's definitely Uh, he's definitely rare. And what's fascinating

1044
00:56:25,666 --> 00:56:29,106
Speaker 2: is is to think where he is now. It just

1045
00:56:29,146 --> 00:56:32,706
Speaker 2: seems like in hindsight that was easy. But going back

1046
00:56:32,746 --> 00:56:36,546
Speaker 2: to he was, he didn't come out as an underclassman.

1047
00:56:36,866 --> 00:56:39,946
Speaker 2: He came out as a senior, went to the Senior Bowl.

1048
00:56:40,946 --> 00:56:46,906
Speaker 2: He's undersize. I can remember probably post junior year, Aaron

1049
00:56:46,946 --> 00:56:51,946
Speaker 2: Donald's probably shows up on a national NFS list. Be

1050
00:56:51,986 --> 00:56:56,546
Speaker 2: interesting what their grade was. We didn't have these right

1051
00:56:57,106 --> 00:56:59,786
Speaker 2: hey screaming he's going to be a first ballot Hall

1052
00:56:59,826 --> 00:57:04,066
Speaker 2: of Fame gray, but people were aware this Aaron valady

1053
00:57:04,186 --> 00:57:07,066
Speaker 2: is he to be? And I remember Billy john So

1054
00:57:07,146 --> 00:57:11,666
Speaker 2: Billy Johnson's uh An area scout force. Now we had

1055
00:57:11,786 --> 00:57:15,786
Speaker 2: just Herding. His dad's a long time defensive line coach.

1056
00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:18,706
Speaker 2: He had he had just come from Tulane as a

1057
00:57:18,746 --> 00:57:21,906
Speaker 2: long snapper and he wanted to get in scouting, so

1058
00:57:21,986 --> 00:57:28,066
Speaker 2: he's a scouting assistant twenty and we kind of had

1059
00:57:28,106 --> 00:57:30,626
Speaker 2: these guys that we had peg that would be okay,

1060
00:57:30,746 --> 00:57:33,626
Speaker 2: these guys are kind of guys we should try to

1061
00:57:33,666 --> 00:57:36,826
Speaker 2: figure out. Again, they're not oh, let's they're not Jadavian

1062
00:57:36,986 --> 00:57:39,666
Speaker 2: Clowney where it's gonna be a first rounder since he's

1063
00:57:39,706 --> 00:57:44,226
Speaker 2: in ninth grade type player. But it was like, hey,

1064
00:57:44,266 --> 00:57:46,946
Speaker 2: this guy, we got him at a kind of a

1065
00:57:47,986 --> 00:57:52,746
Speaker 2: middle of the late round draft pick, but y'all might

1066
00:57:52,786 --> 00:57:55,546
Speaker 2: need to watch this guy more like he he looks

1067
00:57:55,586 --> 00:57:58,586
Speaker 2: like he's better again, he's trying to articulate in a

1068
00:57:58,586 --> 00:58:00,746
Speaker 2: way that I know, Look, I'm just a long snapper.

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00:58:00,786 --> 00:58:03,186
Speaker 1: From the look at his eyes though, are guys they're

1070
00:58:03,266 --> 00:58:04,586
Speaker 1: talking second third round here?

1071
00:58:04,826 --> 00:58:08,906
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what giving, but somebody needs to

1072
00:58:08,946 --> 00:58:13,386
Speaker 2: watch this guy, and you think about how it all started.

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00:58:13,466 --> 00:58:16,386
Speaker 2: Kind of that's kind of Aaron Donald in a nutshell,

1074
00:58:16,426 --> 00:58:23,706
Speaker 2: probably always underwhelmed from a stature standpoint, but every time

1075
00:58:23,746 --> 00:58:28,906
Speaker 2: he stepped on a football field in a football building anywhere.

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00:58:29,506 --> 00:58:34,626
Speaker 2: He made a rare impact that organization, on that team,

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00:58:34,866 --> 00:58:35,826
Speaker 2: in that community.

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00:58:36,866 --> 00:58:40,386
Speaker 1: Beautiful Lestening, thank you. This was awesome and what a

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00:58:40,466 --> 00:58:42,946
Speaker 1: tribute to Aaron Donald, one of the greatest we've ever seen.

1080
00:58:43,466 --> 00:58:45,746
Speaker 1: I so appreciate you less. You took time out of

1081
00:58:45,786 --> 00:58:48,226
Speaker 1: the busiest season of the busiest time of your year.

1082
00:58:49,106 --> 00:58:51,546
Speaker 1: This is peak off season GM mode, and you took

1083
00:58:51,586 --> 00:58:53,906
Speaker 1: forty five minutes with me to chat about one of

1084
00:58:53,946 --> 00:58:54,946
Speaker 1: the greatest players.

1085
00:58:54,626 --> 00:58:56,466
Speaker 2: That it would have only been for you in the

1086
00:58:56,626 --> 00:58:57,466
Speaker 2: subject Aaron Bong.

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00:58:57,786 --> 00:58:59,986
Speaker 1: Let's dude, thank you. I appreciate you so much and

1088
00:59:00,026 --> 00:59:01,346
Speaker 1: good luck the rest of the off season.

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00:59:01,786 --> 00:59:02,226
Speaker 2: Enjoyed it.

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00:59:11,666 --> 00:59:13,546
Speaker 1: I think that was quite a tribute right eron. I

1091
00:59:13,586 --> 00:59:15,906
Speaker 1: feel like that's what we want. We want the guy

1092
00:59:15,906 --> 00:59:18,346
Speaker 1: who drafted him to go deep into the memory bank

1093
00:59:18,426 --> 00:59:21,546
Speaker 1: and to just wax poetic. And I thought Lesnie was fantastic.

1094
00:59:22,026 --> 00:59:24,466
Speaker 4: And it's great too, especially like on the eve of

1095
00:59:24,906 --> 00:59:27,946
Speaker 4: this year's draft to hear them say, yeah, the guy

1096
00:59:27,986 --> 00:59:30,226
Speaker 4: we took it too. You know, we didn't hit on

1097
00:59:30,266 --> 00:59:33,146
Speaker 4: that one and the one we took a twelve that

1098
00:59:33,306 --> 00:59:35,386
Speaker 4: was a Hall of famer. I mean it shows you

1099
00:59:35,426 --> 00:59:39,906
Speaker 4: how mysterious some of the prospects are in the draft process,

1100
00:59:39,986 --> 00:59:43,586
Speaker 4: and yeah, I mean I love I mean obviously, you know,

1101
00:59:43,986 --> 00:59:46,266
Speaker 4: having the same name as Aaron Donald means it was

1102
00:59:46,306 --> 00:59:49,466
Speaker 4: great to hear so many amazing things about him as

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00:59:49,506 --> 00:59:52,986
Speaker 4: a person and a player. I remember watching him, you know,

1104
00:59:53,466 --> 00:59:57,346
Speaker 4: that Super Bowl. I remember being in LA for Radio

1105
00:59:57,426 --> 00:59:59,066
Speaker 4: row and then going to watch Super Bowl with some

1106
00:59:59,106 --> 01:00:03,266
Speaker 4: friends further south in California and just watching Aaron Donald

1107
01:00:03,306 --> 01:00:05,466
Speaker 4: in that game, and that was It's incredible.

1108
01:00:05,666 --> 01:00:09,506
Speaker 1: So it's amazing. The term ball of butcher knives is

1109
01:00:09,506 --> 01:00:12,306
Speaker 1: sometimes thrown around. That's kind of how he plays, like

1110
01:00:12,346 --> 01:00:14,466
Speaker 1: just with it seems like it's reckless, abandoned, but it's

1111
01:00:14,466 --> 01:00:19,346
Speaker 1: all so smooth and choreographed. He's so special. I personally

1112
01:00:19,346 --> 01:00:20,946
Speaker 1: am gonna miss watching him. He's one of the only

1113
01:00:20,986 --> 01:00:24,186
Speaker 1: players in NFL history that's not a quarterback that I

1114
01:00:24,226 --> 01:00:26,666
Speaker 1: can kind of follow while watching the game, and I

1115
01:00:26,826 --> 01:00:28,466
Speaker 1: opt to do that. It's hard with the way the

1116
01:00:28,506 --> 01:00:30,986
Speaker 1: camera angles are at NFL games, you can't really watch

1117
01:00:31,586 --> 01:00:34,626
Speaker 1: a guy's route. If you really love wide receiver playing like,

1118
01:00:34,626 --> 01:00:37,066
Speaker 1: you're not staring at Julian Edelman's footwork, You're looking at

1119
01:00:37,106 --> 01:00:40,066
Speaker 1: Brady and you're following the ball with Aaron Donald because

1120
01:00:40,066 --> 01:00:42,386
Speaker 1: he's in the defensive line. You could just focus in

1121
01:00:42,426 --> 01:00:44,506
Speaker 1: a ninety nine and it's almost like you can use

1122
01:00:44,546 --> 01:00:46,586
Speaker 1: your own eyes as your own camera because it's at

1123
01:00:46,586 --> 01:00:49,066
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and what he does or did

1124
01:00:49,746 --> 01:00:54,786
Speaker 1: is so fantastic. That was cool. What about the the

1125
01:00:54,866 --> 01:01:01,506
Speaker 1: concept he brought a wrestler to action star to Schwarzenegger prototyline.

1126
01:01:01,546 --> 01:01:03,586
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if he's got that big

1127
01:01:03,626 --> 01:01:06,146
Speaker 1: personality to be a wrestler, but we also that would

1128
01:01:06,226 --> 01:01:07,706
Speaker 1: say as a FOOTBA player, he might be different as

1129
01:01:07,746 --> 01:01:10,146
Speaker 1: a professional wrestler or as a movie star.

1130
01:01:10,386 --> 01:01:12,546
Speaker 4: I mean, and you just said Ball of butcher Knives.

1131
01:01:12,546 --> 01:01:14,746
Speaker 4: There was that video maybe three years ago. I think

1132
01:01:15,226 --> 01:01:20,106
Speaker 4: that like him practicing with like the knives and you know,

1133
01:01:20,706 --> 01:01:24,066
Speaker 4: that is the most action movie stunt kind of looking

1134
01:01:24,106 --> 01:01:26,826
Speaker 4: thing ever. Like that would be what Captain America is

1135
01:01:26,866 --> 01:01:30,106
Speaker 4: doing in a movie scene. Like of course, after watching that,

1136
01:01:30,666 --> 01:01:33,306
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald could one hundred percent, I think, be someone

1137
01:01:33,346 --> 01:01:36,026
Speaker 4: that you see and you know, maybe he's in like

1138
01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:38,306
Speaker 4: a football movie first or something, and then he's in

1139
01:01:39,026 --> 01:01:41,306
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're still making expendables or you know,

1140
01:01:41,346 --> 01:01:43,306
Speaker 4: Fast and the Furious or something like that. I think

1141
01:01:43,346 --> 01:01:45,666
Speaker 4: I could see that for sure totally.

1142
01:01:45,866 --> 01:01:49,346
Speaker 1: Uh, let's wrap it here. We'll probably do just one

1143
01:01:49,466 --> 01:01:53,226
Speaker 1: this week and then next week I feel like might

1144
01:01:53,266 --> 01:01:55,386
Speaker 1: do one, might not, and then we'll tap into draft

1145
01:01:55,506 --> 01:01:58,266
Speaker 1: if we start with April, Like I'm thinking, I'm gonna

1146
01:01:58,266 --> 01:02:00,346
Speaker 1: get a collection of guys that we wrote, and it

1147
01:02:00,466 --> 01:02:02,906
Speaker 1: might be low hanging fruit, but I feel like people

1148
01:02:02,986 --> 01:02:04,346
Speaker 1: want this, Like I might just do a bunch of

1149
01:02:04,426 --> 01:02:07,706
Speaker 1: mock trons, I think, but just do a bunch of

1150
01:02:07,706 --> 01:02:10,266
Speaker 1: mock drafts and make this a mock draft podcasts and

1151
01:02:10,266 --> 01:02:12,426
Speaker 1: we could do other personal interviews and get and stuff.

1152
01:02:12,466 --> 01:02:14,786
Speaker 1: But like, I have enough people on my phone that

1153
01:02:14,826 --> 01:02:17,466
Speaker 1: I trust that I think have good information, that know

1154
01:02:17,546 --> 01:02:19,626
Speaker 1: the draft inside and out that we could turn this

1155
01:02:19,706 --> 01:02:23,506
Speaker 1: into like a draft bonanza. I'm really bummed we don't

1156
01:02:23,506 --> 01:02:26,666
Speaker 1: have Good Morning Football the month of April. Like that's

1157
01:02:26,666 --> 01:02:30,066
Speaker 1: my favorite time of year. It's when I I just

1158
01:02:30,106 --> 01:02:31,946
Speaker 1: we just go ramp at which for Haft rumors, it's

1159
01:02:31,946 --> 01:02:34,626
Speaker 1: a shame, But it's okay because we have this outlet

1160
01:02:34,666 --> 01:02:36,826
Speaker 1: and I'll make the most of it. And I promise

1161
01:02:36,906 --> 01:02:39,746
Speaker 1: you and everyone who's listening that will make the most

1162
01:02:39,746 --> 01:02:44,986
Speaker 1: of a rather different situation than we anticipated, so we'll

1163
01:02:45,026 --> 01:02:47,946
Speaker 1: go from there. Aaron, thank you, it's great to be

1164
01:02:48,066 --> 01:02:51,906
Speaker 1: back on the mic. To our dear friend Chason English,

1165
01:02:51,946 --> 01:02:55,306
Speaker 1: to all the folks in LA, to less sneed the

1166
01:02:55,346 --> 01:02:58,266
Speaker 1: general manager of the Los Angeles Rams for on short

1167
01:02:58,346 --> 01:03:00,266
Speaker 1: Nottus jumping on because you said, went and where to

1168
01:03:00,266 --> 01:03:02,386
Speaker 1: talk about Aaron Donald And we found him when and

1169
01:03:02,386 --> 01:03:04,826
Speaker 1: whare about an hour later and he did that to

1170
01:03:04,866 --> 01:03:07,786
Speaker 1: everybody else listening, Keep on listening more than ever. We're

1171
01:03:07,786 --> 01:03:09,426
Speaker 1: going to need your support. I'm not on TV every

1172
01:03:09,466 --> 01:03:12,426
Speaker 1: day starting March twenty ninth, so let's really lean into

1173
01:03:12,426 --> 01:03:15,346
Speaker 1: this and let's blow this out and hopefully tell your

1174
01:03:15,346 --> 01:03:17,146
Speaker 1: friends and we'll keep on rocking with the Season with

1175
01:03:17,186 --> 01:03:21,146
Speaker 1: Peter Schreger until next week. Guys, Thank you for listening.

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01:03:29,986 --> 01:03:32,706
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01:03:32,866 --> 01:03:36,826
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01:03:36,906 --> 01:03:41,786
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