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Speaker 1: Cools Media.

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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly

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Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling

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Speaker 2: of our world, and what it means for you. I'm

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Speaker 2: Garrison Davis today I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout,

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Speaker 2: and Robert Evans. This week we are covering the week

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Speaker 2: of January twenty ninth to February fifth, and oh boy,

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Speaker 2: has this week felt like a month. I am absolutely exhausted.

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Speaker 2: And let's start, I guess by talking about what Trump did.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night. He had a press conference with both himself

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Speaker 2: and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin and Yahoo to announce that

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Speaker 2: the United States would qute unquote take over the Gaza Strip,

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Speaker 2: resulting in quote unquote long term ownership. Previously on that day,

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Speaker 2: Trump also signed an order pulling out of the United

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Speaker 2: Nation When Rights Counsel and cutting off aid to UNRA.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with this topic. Hopefully we will have a

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Speaker 2: later episode, maybe next week, covering what's happening in Palestine.

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Speaker 2: But you know, this is as of right now, the

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Speaker 2: current most development.

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Speaker 3: This is one of the more like crazy things that

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Speaker 3: he's like, like you could see net and Yahoo even

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Speaker 3: like in the room clearly finding out about this for

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Speaker 3: the first time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that there was a real, oh shit really vibe.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how long Trump and Nantyaho actually had

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Speaker 2: this like entire thing planned that that is a distinct

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Speaker 2: possibility that like, this has been Netanyahu's goal for a while,

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Speaker 2: and this was like impacted his negotiations with Biden, like

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Speaker 2: knowing that he wanted this to be like the outcome

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Speaker 2: where the US basically just takes and holds the territory

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Speaker 2: of Gaza as a US territory, like indefinitely.

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Speaker 3: I think Babe knew that Trump would give him a

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Speaker 3: positive outcome in any number of ways, right, like to

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Speaker 3: include just saying like bomb it off the map, Like

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Speaker 3: I think it's reasonable to assume that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean something like this was I think the

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Speaker 4: obvious outcome as soon as Trump, I mean, from before

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Speaker 4: Trump won, right, Yeah, net and Yahoo never had any

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Speaker 4: intention of letting things go back to the way they

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Speaker 4: were before October seventh, And Trump has a vested interest

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Speaker 4: in giving Netanyahu whatever he wants the most, Like it's

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Speaker 4: a I don't know, I'm not surprised by it. I

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Speaker 4: guess I'm a little bit like Okay, at least now

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Speaker 4: we know what they're going to do next.

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Speaker 2: It's in line with the manifest destiny territorial expansion Trump

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Speaker 2: has been talking about the past few weeks. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden laid the groundwork for this by giving like

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Speaker 2: do the demolition side of this project. And now Trump

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Speaker 2: continues to discuss relocating Palestinians to Egypt and Jordan, while

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Speaker 2: promising to turn Gaza into quote unquote the riviera of

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Speaker 2: the Middle East, level it out create an economic development unquote.

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Speaker 3: He has also said that he's gonna again said he's

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Speaker 3: going to withdraw US troops from Syria, which would leave

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Speaker 3: two thousand people in senth Coom to deploy to Gaza.

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Speaker 3: I guess if that's what they want to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I feel like there's no possible way

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Speaker 5: this can go quote unquote, Well this is going to

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Speaker 6: The basic plan here is to do a genocide.

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Speaker 2: And then I mean, this is this is part of

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Speaker 2: a genas title operation. Yeah, it's like, this is like

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Speaker 2: what we're doing. We're doing at second larger genosiside this

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Speaker 2: is like the finishing touch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But then but you know, like on a sort of

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Speaker 5: practical level, it's like, Okay, the US couldn't hold Afghanistan,

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Speaker 5: right like, and like obviously this is this isn't like

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Speaker 5: a quote unquote easier occupation, but it's like, this is

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I mean by my assumption is that

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Speaker 5: this is going to be just like if he if

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Speaker 5: this is going to be hideously unpopular. People are going

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Speaker 5: to be coming back in body bags and it's gonna

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Speaker 6: Going to be a nightmare for everyone involved.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it's a it's a absolutely terrible idea.

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Speaker 2: I'm more scared that they're gonna get away with it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I'm more scared that things will go

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Speaker 3: There will be significant pushbacks not the word right like

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Speaker 3: that there will be guerrilla warfare right Like, It's very

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Speaker 3: Like I think Trump kind of needs an enemy, you know,

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Speaker 3: like a war, and and like a quote unquote you know,

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Speaker 4: From that, I'm not really sure. I think we're actually

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Speaker 4: going to see the kind of troop deployment that people

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Speaker 4: think based on what Trump has said as opposed to

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Speaker 4: expand and support for what the Israelis have already been doing,

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Speaker 4: which has like done a significant job to depopulate the

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Speaker 4: area as it stands. Like, Yeah, I think we have

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Speaker 4: to be has a tempt to draw too strong a

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Speaker 4: to do, Which doesn't mean I don't think that it's

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Speaker 4: not very likely that you're going to continue to see

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Speaker 4: I don't know that. I think the only way that

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Speaker 4: happens is something that looks like most of the occupations

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the new model is this serial model, right,

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Speaker 3: make of a relatively small footprint and then in a

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Speaker 4: Right, the IDF and a lot of third party corporate PMCs. Yeah, PMCs,

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Speaker 4: you know, like that's what that We've We've got guys

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Speaker 4: that looks a lot likelier to me than the tenth

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Speaker 4: Mountain Division, you know, occupying large chunks of Gaza.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, Yeah, Eric Prince is ready to ready to get

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Speaker 3: sadly All.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's let's transition to our new segment titled Stinky Musk,

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Speaker 2: which I came up with last night. Delirious and yes

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Speaker 2: it's bad. No, I'm not going to fix it. South

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Speaker 2: African Gang does a hostile takeover of the United States.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're hidden, you're hdden Today Garrison.

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk and a gig of overly online gen z

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Speaker 2: interns are doing an oligarchic cybercup of the federal government,

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Speaker 2: starting with the Office of Management and Budget and moving

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Speaker 2: on to USAID, A, General Services Administration, the Treasury, and

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Speaker 2: as of Recording uh Noah, as well as many other agencies,

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Speaker 2: smaller agencies, bigger agencies that they are infiltrating both physically

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Speaker 2: both physically and digitally as the DOGE team ransacks various

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Speaker 2: departments and accesses sensitive data with no oversight. And that's

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Speaker 2: like government data about you, possibly in the hands of

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Speaker 2: a literal Nick Fuentes pilled Groper. Intern security officials who

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Speaker 2: tried to resist Musk's seizure of classified materials have been fired,

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Speaker 2: and do personnel threatened to call the US Marshals to

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Speaker 2: be let into buildings. I have some more info on this,

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Speaker 2: as will as we will go on, but I guess

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Speaker 2: this is this is an okay time just to discuss.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the response to this is one of

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Speaker 4: the more hopeful things going on right now. And kind

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, looking at the fallout from twenty twenty and

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Speaker 4: thinking like, okay, well, if we're going to actually get

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Speaker 4: any kind of functional resistance to what's happening, what does

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Speaker 4: that look like? And it doesn't look like the same

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Speaker 4: some hope in the fact that you've got a different

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Speaker 4: crowd of people who are radicalizing and taking to the streets.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we federal employees federal employees, right, and

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Speaker 4: you've got a lot of like or former Yeah, most

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Speaker 4: I think there's a potential And who's to say, Like

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Speaker 4: right now, we just had a big protest in front

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Speaker 4: many if not the vast majority of whom we're federal employees,

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Speaker 4: rallying alongside a lot of Democratic members of Congress. And

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Speaker 4: you know that's not that doesn't accomplish anything on its own,

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Speaker 4: but it's a potential start to accomplishing something. You know,

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Speaker 4: if you get those people out in the street, it provides,

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Speaker 4: And it also is the start of, you know, what

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Speaker 4: you might call a reverse January sixth. You know, if

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Speaker 4: January six was a bunch of random people taking an

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Speaker 4: present in twenty seventeen at the travel ban protests if

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Speaker 6: It didn't.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot angrier than the travel ban protests.

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Speaker 4: The travel ban protests were kind of an indefense of

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Speaker 4: anger at a very specific group of people. There are

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Speaker 4: Social Security payments haven't stopped going out in moss. So

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Speaker 4: if we're seeing something like this at this early stage,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of potential there. And the

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Speaker 4: thing this person brought up repeatedly is like when we

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Speaker 4: to get interesting. If that happens, Like that's kind of

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Speaker 4: the stage at which there's a lot of potential for

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Speaker 4: this to turn into something that could actually cause change,

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Speaker 4: Like if you actually start getting government employees who are

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Speaker 4: like who are willing to take direct action to occupy

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Speaker 4: those buildings or stop other people from and you've seen

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Speaker 4: little bits of that. Right. One of the things we

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Speaker 4: did see is as these doge kids came along, federal

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So on Monday, Trump sort of averted the market

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Speaker 5: production things that are just screwed that rely on this stuff.

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Speaker 5: And so the ripples of this specific part of it

438
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Speaker 5: are going to keep playing out basically no matter what

439
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Speaker 5: else happens in this trade war. Yeah, it's also worth

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Speaker 5: noting that Trump's tariffs on Mexico and Canada aren't gone.

441
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Speaker 5: They've just been postponed for a month. So there is

442
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Speaker 5: a real chance that we end up in exactly the

443
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Speaker 5: same place that we were going into the weekend, where

444
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Speaker 5: no one knows where these terrifts are going to take effected,

445
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Speaker 5: basically blow a smoking crater in the world economy, and

446
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Speaker 5: we get another round of the negotiations that James is

447
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Speaker 5: going to talk about it's already setting off a really

448
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Speaker 5: sort of staggering right wing i mean, not even necessarily

449
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Speaker 5: right wing, just like a nationalist backlash in Canada. That's

450
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Speaker 5: kind of been like tearing up this sort of international

451
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Speaker 5: right wing alliance and nationalists because suddenly Trump's coming after

452
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Speaker 5: them and now they're they're really mad about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, and because Trudeau announced that he would be targeting,

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Speaker 2: you know, like rattal laitary tariffs is specifically at red states,

455
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Speaker 2: we now have people calling him dark, woke or dark Trudeau,

456
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Speaker 2: you know, for very different reasons than they used to

457
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Speaker 2: call him Trudeau.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's magnificent.

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Speaker 6: All right, all right, shop my high.

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Speaker 4: Right, all right, you're gonna get canceled if you're not careful.

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Speaker 3: No outstanding.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of getting canceled, what hasn't gotten canceled is the

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Speaker 5: ten percent tariff on all Chinese goods, which is just

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Speaker 5: now in effect. It's just happening. That's bad. It's going

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Speaker 5: to increase inflation. It's also it's you know, it's it's

466
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Speaker 5: sort of the opening round of this escalation to a

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Speaker 5: trade war. China has retaliated with tariffs that are not

468
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Speaker 5: a very big deal on US goods and some product

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Speaker 5: control stuff, on export control stuff on some rare earth

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Speaker 5: minerals actually do with the rare smills, but like minerals,

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Speaker 5: you need for production stuff that isn't a big deal

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Speaker 5: yet but could be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and we were all expecting Chinese tariffs. Having

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent tariffs of Canada was not something I

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Speaker 2: thought was like looming.

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Speaker 6: Now yeah, yeah, I mean, I thought they'd do Mexica.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm very worried about the offshoring of Chinese labor and

479
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Speaker 3: the impact that we'll have in places like Myanma, where

480
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Speaker 3: China has these special economic zones. I mean, something we

481
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Speaker 3: will cover. We obviously have a lot of.

482
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Speaker 6: So Monday, on Monday, we're going to cover this war.

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Speaker 5: So I think something that's important to understand about these

484
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Speaker 5: tariffs is that these terrorifts are not economic policy. This

485
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Speaker 5: is this is the mistake that all of the capitalists

486
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Speaker 5: who backed Trump made, is that they assumed that just

487
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Speaker 5: like every other's president who's made promises like this, like

488
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Speaker 5: Obama's promised to renegotiate NAFTA, they all assumed that because

489
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Speaker 5: of economic policy, they'd be able to just like get

490
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Speaker 5: Trump to be pro business and then he wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 5: The miscalculation they made is that these are not economic tariffs.

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Speaker 5: These are directly foreign policy, geopolitical tariffs. Right, their international

493
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Speaker 5: relations are to the deal bullshit and the goal of it.

494
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Speaker 5: And he's been deploying this against like I mean, Columbia, Denmark,

495
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Speaker 5: He's threatening the EU. Now he's going to keep doing

496
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Speaker 5: this with China. The goal of this is to directly

497
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Speaker 5: use American consumer powers as a weapon of imperialism to

498
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Speaker 5: make this country fall into line. Yeah, and now I

499
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Speaker 5: will pass the jam to talk about what he was

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Speaker 5: specifically trying to get out of Mexico and Canada in

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Speaker 5: this round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like we have spoke about falling into line there,

503
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Speaker 3: and I think it's probably a good place to start. Like

504
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Speaker 3: this kind of Trump brinksmanship is very typical of his style. Right,

505
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Speaker 3: Nearly every media outlet I think, fell for it this time,

506
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Speaker 3: just that it did in his first term, Like we

507
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Speaker 3: got this, like this is going to cause the crisis.

508
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Speaker 3: Trump was very nebulous in his goals for these tariffs,

509
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Speaker 3: and as almost always, like he talked a lot about

510
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Speaker 3: like America being treated unfairly, right, he talked about the border,

511
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Speaker 3: and he talked specifically about fentanyl. So whets begin by

512
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Speaker 3: talking about fentanyl, It's just to be clear. It is

513
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Speaker 3: true that some fentanyl comes into the USA from Mexico

514
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Speaker 3: and to a lesser degree or so from Canada. The

515
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Speaker 3: vast majority of the fentanyl that enters the USA from Mexico,

516
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Speaker 3: about eighty percent of the convictions made it as a

517
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Speaker 3: result of that fentanyl entering the USA are made on

518
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Speaker 3: US citizens, right, and ninety percent of the fentanyl that

519
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: is seized is seized at ports of entry. So this

520
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Speaker 3: idea that there are like Mexican nationals backpacking fentanel through

521
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Speaker 3: the desert, that exists, but it is not what is

522
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Speaker 3: bringing the bulk of the fentanyl that is killing the

523
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Speaker 3: people in this country into this country. There are multiple

524
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Speaker 3: cases of CBP agents taking bribes to allow the drug

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Speaker 3: into the country. I will link to two of them

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Speaker 3: in the show notes, but know that there are more

527
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Speaker 3: of them, and given the relatively high bart for cbpagent,

528
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Speaker 3: anyone in DHS to be investigated. Right, we can assume

529
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Speaker 3: that there's something that happens on at least a semi

530
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Speaker 3: regular basis. So what did Trump do to stop this

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Speaker 3: fencinel coming into the country.

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Speaker 6: What did he get.

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Speaker 3: He got this promise that Mexico will deploy ten thousand

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Speaker 3: troops to its border. In reality, this isn't much of

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Speaker 3: a concession at all. The Mexican National Guard has been

536
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Speaker 3: deployed to the border for years. Specifically, it's been deployed

537
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Speaker 3: at gaps in the US border wall for more than

538
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Speaker 3: a year. So people will remember our coverage of the

539
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Speaker 3: open air attention sites in the Cumbernese County San Diego.

540
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Speaker 3: All of those open air detention sites correspond to gaps

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Speaker 3: in the border wall where migrants would enter, surrendered to

542
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Speaker 3: border patrol, and then be detained in open air. Each

543
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Speaker 3: of those gaps now has a Mexican National Guard checkpoint

544
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Speaker 3: in front of it, and they're there in conjunction with

545
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Speaker 3: the IM the National Institute of Migration in English and

546
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Speaker 3: the I inm has camps for the migrants who do

547
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Speaker 3: come there. This is something that Biden obtained in I

548
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Speaker 3: think late twenty three, early twenty four, and that's why

549
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: we aren't seeing open air attention one of the reasons,

550
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Speaker 3: the other reason being bid them to a sylum band.

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Speaker 3: We aren't seeing as many people crossing the border.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Mexican border towns also tend to be areas where the

554
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Speaker 3: Mexican military deploys its troops because often they are places

555
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Speaker 3: where organized crime occurs due to their proximity to the

556
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Speaker 3: border and the market for drugs, and the fact that

557
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Speaker 3: weapons from the US tend to flow into Mexico and

558
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Speaker 3: that that's where large numbers of weapons for organized crime

559
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Speaker 3: come from. Right. For more than a year, I've received

560
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Speaker 3: press releases from Tijuana constantly talking about new unit arrives,

561
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Speaker 3: Special Forces arrives, Army arrived, and then they'll have pictures

562
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Speaker 3: of a parade.

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Speaker 6: Right now.

564
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Speaker 3: They never tell us when those units are leaving. They

565
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Speaker 3: just keep telling us that coming. So it's very hard

566
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Speaker 3: to get a sense of actually how many troops are there. Sure,

567
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Speaker 3: but the idea that Mexico is suddenly miniaturizing it's its

568
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Speaker 3: border is kind of fossical.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I want to There's been a lot of

570
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Speaker 5: sort of cheerleading of shine Bomb, sort of like standing

571
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Speaker 5: up to the US, and I don't think people in

572
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Speaker 5: the US really understand the securitization on the Mexican border,

573
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Speaker 5: and so something that I'm realizing that I don't think

574
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Speaker 5: I just assume people knew about this, but I don't

575
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Speaker 5: think everyone made it into the western press much.

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 5: So Like a few months ago in October, the Mexican

578
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Speaker 5: army just like opened fire on a convoy of like

579
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Speaker 5: on a convoy of immigrants and this was on the

580
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Speaker 5: border of Guatemala and just like killed six of them,

581
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Speaker 5: shot twelve other people. So like, and like there are

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Speaker 5: massacres like that, like not infrequently, right, Like, this is

583
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Speaker 5: not a this is not a Mexico is pro immigrant,

584
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Speaker 5: like the US is anti immigrant thing.

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 5: Part of the part of the reason why Trump can like,

587
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Speaker 5: you know, sort of the clear victory without getting any

588
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 5: concessions or whatever is because of how murderous the Mexican armies,

589
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: like border policy is already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Mexican leaders have succesfully been able to

591
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Speaker 3: paint themselves as leftists, exclusively being two inches to the

592
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Speaker 3: left of a further and further right regime in Washington, DC.

593
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Speaker 3: People can listen to the last episode of My Daddy

594
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Speaker 3: and Gap series for an idea of how Mexico is

595
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Speaker 3: constantly deporting migrants to its own certain states. I'm going

596
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Speaker 3: to talk a little bit about the Canadian concessions. Very briefly, again,

597
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Speaker 3: ten thousand agents and a border spending that really doesn't

598
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Speaker 3: change much in what in terms of what was already

599
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Speaker 3: becoming a more militarized border.

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Speaker 6: There has actually been a.

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Speaker 3: Significant flow of migrants from the US to Canada in

602
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Speaker 3: the last couple of years, specifically a Francophone African people

603
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Speaker 3: who would take that route. I'm aware of several TikTok influencers,

604
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Speaker 3: as one guy or following Chad who or he's in

605
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Speaker 3: Canada now, but he's from Chad and he makes these

606
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Speaker 3: videos explaining to Chaddian people how to go from Mexico

607
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Speaker 3: into the US and then move up to Canada obviously

608
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Speaker 3: where they can speak an That makes their lives much easier, right,

609
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Speaker 3: It makes it much easier for not to not have

610
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Speaker 3: to learn a language. Trudeau did agree to list cartels

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Speaker 3: as terrorist organizations.

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Speaker 4: That seems to be from what I can tell, the

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Speaker 4: big move that he made.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it does allow for some economic sanctions, right

615
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Speaker 3: if they attempt to use that Canadian border and sort

616
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Speaker 3: of get around the United States. It's much less significant

617
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Speaker 3: than a US listing, which we believe is coming. Canada's

618
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Speaker 3: not going to use it to do covert operations inside Mexico.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Canada's not going to be drone striking anyone.

620
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Speaker 3: But like when Trump listed the Kodes Force, he then

621
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Speaker 3: structs its leader right with a drone. I don't think

622
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Speaker 3: Trudeau is going to be I don't think Canada's going

623
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Speaker 3: to be doing that. But nonetheless that is a concession,

624
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Speaker 3: and perhaps there is some plan for that.

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Speaker 6: Right.

626
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Speaker 3: It certainly allows for, and I've said this before, the

627
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Speaker 3: economic sanctioning of people who provide material benefit to those organizations,

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Speaker 3: or potentially the arrest of people who provide material benefit

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Speaker 3: to his organizations, which is a large number of businesses

630
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Speaker 3: in Mexico which end up being extorted or paying protection money. Right,

631
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Speaker 3: So we don't know what is going to happen with that,

632
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Speaker 3: but it's one of the tools that Trump now has

633
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Speaker 3: who use as another cudgel against it against Mexico. The

634
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Speaker 3: last and perhaps most sinister of all development is this

635
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Speaker 3: deal that Marco Rubio is struck with Boukele in El Salvador.

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Speaker 6: Right.

637
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Speaker 3: El Salvador has said it will host US citizen criminals

638
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Speaker 3: and deportees from any nation in its jail system. So

639
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Speaker 3: I just read Bouquel's tweet, it's very short. We are

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Speaker 3: willing to take in only convicted criminals parentheses, including convicted

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Speaker 3: US citizens, into a mega prison second, in exchange for

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Speaker 3: a fee. The fee would be relatively low for the US,

643
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Speaker 3: but significant for US, making our entire prison system sustainable.

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Speaker 3: If you're not familiar, it means counter Terrorism Confinements Center

645
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Speaker 3: in Spanish for people who haven't heard about this. It's

646
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Speaker 3: the largest prison in the world that Bucheli opened in

647
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, and it's a terrible place. There are

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Speaker 3: cells of one hundred people. In that cell, there are

649
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Speaker 3: eighty bunks, two toilets, and two basins. They are extremely confined.

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Speaker 3: I think they get six point five feet of space

651
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Speaker 3: per person. They get thirty minutes outside a day. They're

652
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Speaker 3: forced to shave their heads, their ankles and wrists are chained.

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Speaker 3: People are arbitrarily detained there. Sometimes the things like looking

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Speaker 3: like they might be in a gang. Multiple human rights

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Speaker 3: organizations including that well, the State Department is not a

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Speaker 3: human rights organization. Sometimes it's the opposite of that. The

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Speaker 3: State Department itself has raised concerns about human rights abuse

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Speaker 3: due to the quote unquote a state of exception which

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Speaker 3: exists in Elsalvador, which allows the government to do these

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Speaker 3: things without really any human rights oversight. The US has

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Speaker 3: already seemingly moved some migrants to Guantanamo Bay, to the

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Speaker 3: Guantanamo Bay Detention Center, and satellite imagery has shown tents

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Speaker 3: going up there. Very few at the current time, and

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Speaker 3: they seem to come from Fort Lewis McCord, which can

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Speaker 3: work out. But there are tents. I guess I think

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Speaker 3: I was watched the Post had these satellite images of

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Speaker 3: tents being constructed there. I'm trying to keep an eye

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Speaker 3: on that satellite imagery. Of course, Biden opened the door

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Speaker 3: to outdoor attention. It's not impossible that we will see

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Speaker 3: that again. But this Kaylic plan, this this plan to

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Speaker 3: send people to Al Salbador, especially US citizens, evidently this

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Speaker 3: is unconstitutional. The courts get to decide how much that matters, right,

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Speaker 3: we don't. But this is deeply concerning.

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Speaker 2: All we're all waiting on the courts and we're all

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Speaker 2: deeply concerned.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there you.

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Speaker 2: Go, one final break and then we'll come back to

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Speaker 2: end and discuss Trump's targeting of teachers in relation to

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Speaker 2: gender ideology. Welcome back. So, last week, Trump signed an

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Speaker 2: executive order titled Ending Radical Andation in K through twelve Schooling,

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Speaker 2: and part of its focus was to prevent teachers from

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Speaker 2: calling trans students by their names and preferred pronouns, even

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Speaker 2: promising to inflict legal punishment for doing so, basically like

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Speaker 2: mandating dead naming, misgendering, and forcibly de transitioning students. And

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Speaker 2: this order specifically took aim quote unquote social transition, right,

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Speaker 2: this is like the non medical social aspects of transitioning,

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Speaker 2: like changing gender, names, pronouns, you know what facilities you use, socialization,

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Speaker 2: and like this stuff has historically been, you know, the

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Speaker 2: most common form of transition for minors. It's it's the

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Speaker 2: easiest to do. You don't even need you like, your parents' help.

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Speaker 2: But this order blames schools for indoctrinating children in quote

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Speaker 2: radical anti American ideologies unquote, which they include gender ideology.

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Speaker 2: As a part of the order, tries to mandate a

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Speaker 2: national school bathroom band, restrict participation in school sports, and

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Speaker 2: states that within ninety days, the Secretary of Education, the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Health and you

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Speaker 2: Human Services, and the Attorney General shall provide Trump with

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Speaker 2: a quote unquote ending in doctrination strategy to protect parental

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Speaker 2: rights and eliminate all federal funding that directly or indirectly

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Speaker 2: supports gender ideology and doctrination in K through twelve schools,

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Speaker 2: including curriculums, teacher education, certification, licensing, employment, and training. To

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Speaker 2: quote from the order quote, the Attorney General shall coordinate

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Speaker 2: with state attorneys general and local district attorneys in their

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Speaker 2: efforts to enforce the law and file appropriate actions against

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Speaker 2: K through twelve teachers who violate the law by one

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Speaker 2: sexually exploiting minors, two unlawfully practicing medicine by offering diagnoses

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Speaker 2: and treatment without the requisite license, and three otherwise unlawfully

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Speaker 2: facilitating in the social transition of a minor unquote. So basically,

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Speaker 2: the goal is to try to make calling a student

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Speaker 2: by their name and pronouns illegal and wrapping this in

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Speaker 2: either with some form of sexual exploitation, practicing medicine with

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Speaker 2: a license, and using those as justifications for making this

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Speaker 2: practice illegal. Now. In response, school districts in Columbus, Ohio, Harrisburg, Virginia,

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Speaker 2: and Montgomery County, Maryland announced that they would not comply

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Speaker 2: with the order and continue to defend their students, according

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Speaker 2: to journalists. To Aaron Reid, Seattle Public Schools published a

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Speaker 2: statement reaffirming their commitment to protecting LGBTQ students and staff,

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Speaker 2: and later the California Department of Education pushed back on

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Speaker 2: the legality of Trump's order. Other blue cities and states

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Speaker 2: have stayed quiet in the week since the order, with

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Speaker 2: teachers and parents calling on places like the New York

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Speaker 2: City Public School System to take a stance on if

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Speaker 2: they will stand up for their trans students. So this

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Speaker 2: is one side of the coin right now. The other

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Speaker 2: side is healthcare, which we will close on now. In

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Speaker 2: relation to Trump's executive order from his first week entitled

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Speaker 2: Defending Women from gender ideology, Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth

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Speaker 2: to the Federal Government. Now, some hospitals have begun complying

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Speaker 2: in advance by cancelling patient appointments for gender affirming care.

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Speaker 2: Denver Health and University of Colorado Health sacrificed the care

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Speaker 2: of their patients for Trump's promise of continued funding by

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Speaker 2: announcing that they would no longer be offering care including

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Speaker 2: blockers and hormone replacement therapy for patients eighteen and under.

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Speaker 2: The Virginia Commonwealth University and Children's Hospital of Richmond have

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Speaker 2: also ceased providing gender affirming care to those under nineteen.

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Speaker 2: This past Monday, thousands of people gathered outside at the

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Speaker 2: NYU Langhan Hospital in protest of the hospital's choice to

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Speaker 2: proactively comply with Trump's order to restrict health care as

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Speaker 2: the cancelation of two appointments for transpatients under the age

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Speaker 2: of nineteen. Now after these protests, which saw thousands of

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Speaker 2: people protesting out in the streets, after this, the New

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Speaker 2: York at Twity General sent a letter to the state

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Speaker 2: healthcare systems saying that the state law requires that hospitals

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Speaker 2: provide gender affirming care and claimed that the federal funding

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Speaker 2: would not be impacted by inexecutive order. And like this

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Speaker 2: really hammers on the point that like none of these

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Speaker 2: executive orders are self in these all require proactive implementation

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Speaker 2: by local actors. Doctor Jeremy Bernbaum was quoted in The

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Speaker 2: New York Times. He's a pediatrician at the state run

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Speaker 2: University Hospital of Brooklyn. He was quoted as saying, quote,

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Speaker 2: I am willing to go to jail to continue to

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Speaker 2: provide your care, unquote, and you really can like protest

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Speaker 2: hospitals that comply in advance, the same thing with schools.

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Speaker 2: These are targets that can provide actual pressure, and there's

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Speaker 2: probably people on staff who are very sympathetic, and they

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Speaker 2: just might be too scared to take a stance. Right now,

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Speaker 2: and we have some breaking news as of this morning.

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Speaker 2: State attorney general from California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: New Jersey, Rhode Island, Nevada, Vermont, and Wisconsin released a

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Speaker 2: statement saying that Trump's executive order banning trans healthcare is

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Speaker 2: unlawful and the hospitals have a duty to provide care.

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Speaker 2: So this is like the most optimistic thing that we've

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Speaker 2: seen so far. Now, obviously these are blue states. This

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Speaker 2: is not going to impact and states who already have

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Speaker 2: these types of bands either in process or you know,

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Speaker 2: are going to have them down the line. At Georgia

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Speaker 2: just just put out a Trance healthcare band this morning

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Speaker 2: for you know, a bill that'll reach our Senate in

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Speaker 2: the next few weeks. But this is this is the

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Speaker 2: current situation. Protests seem to have applied a degree of

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Speaker 2: pressure that has gotten the state's attorney general to actually

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Speaker 2: make a statement on this issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, like so I still teach, right

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Speaker 3: a teach at community college and sometimes through that we

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Speaker 3: also teach high school students. If you are an educator

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Speaker 3: or someone in healthcare, now is the time to be

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Speaker 3: talking to your union about like how you meet this,

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Speaker 3: because like, the stronger we are, the better we can

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Speaker 3: confront this. And the only way to confront this is

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Speaker 3: we all need to do it together, and like, these

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Speaker 3: are conversations that we need to be having right now,

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Speaker 3: Like we do not have time, and our unions are

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Speaker 3: a very valuable tool for preserving our rights.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's actually part of what I was going to say.

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Speaker 5: I've talked to a few union teachers who are like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna go do this, We're gonna go fight.

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Speaker 5: So I expect in the next couple of weeks we're

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Speaker 5: going to see more movement from the teachers' unions. And

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Speaker 5: I think there's you know, there's another I mean, there's

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Speaker 5: on the one hand, there is the threat that you know,

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Speaker 5: these people do want to privatize the education system, right,

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Speaker 5: so there is a chance that this is you know,

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Speaker 5: trying to draw a backlash out of this is something

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Speaker 5: that they're going to try to use to just completely

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Speaker 5: eliminate like national federal education. But also, you know, this

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Speaker 5: is something we've I want to close this episode on

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Speaker 5: that we've been talking about this whole time, right, is

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Speaker 5: that this, this whole coup is being carried out by

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Speaker 5: a bunch of people with laptops and pieces of paper

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Speaker 5: walking up the bureaucrats, and the bureaucrats are doing what

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Speaker 5: they're being told. Right, this is this is not a

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Speaker 5: coup that's working with like an army that is showing

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Speaker 5: up on your street. And you can go, like find

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Speaker 5: the local bureaucrats who are the people who are supposed

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Speaker 5: to enforce this stuff, and you can protest them and

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Speaker 5: you can put some steel in their spine and make

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Speaker 5: them a maze.

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Speaker 6: The administration actually try to do this. It's not that

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Speaker 6: hard and they'll fucking cave.

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Speaker 4: Yes. Yes, that's that's entirely what I was trying to

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Speaker 4: get at earlier, And you know it ties into what

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Speaker 4: James was saying, is like, this is the time to

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Speaker 4: be making connections across as white a swath of the

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Speaker 4: country as you can, including like everyone you can get

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Speaker 4: in touch with who is not someone you would normally

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Speaker 4: organize with, like this is a moment of potential, and

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Speaker 4: it's it's during moments of potential that you should be

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Speaker 4: widening the swath of people that you connect to, because

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Speaker 4: otherwise there's just no getting through this sort of shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we will be covering all these topics more in

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Speaker 2: depth in our regular like daily episodes. I have a

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Speaker 2: mind boggling, very frustrating episode on musk and the Trump

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Speaker 2: campaign's promises of abolishing different departments of government, as well

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Speaker 2: as a deep dive on like affirmative action and DEI

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Speaker 2: wokeness in the coming weeks, and I'm sure we will

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Speaker 2: we will all be focusing on different parts of us

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Speaker 2: in our continuing episodes. But that does it for us today.

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Speaker 2: See you on the other side. We reported the news.

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