WEBVTT - BREAKING: Congress Votes to Release ALL Epstein Files (Seriously) 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:06.360 Hey there, folks, it is Tuesday, November the eighth, and 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:13.039 what do a Harvard professor, survivors of sex abuse, and 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:19.920 members of Congress all have in common? Jeffrey Epstein and 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.200 welcome everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ. What 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:28.640 a day we saw in DC. Robes. It is amazing. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.159 This man has been dead for five plus years and 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.920 continues to have an impact in this country on our politics, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.879 on our policy, and nr on our headlines. But the 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.080 headline today is the biggest one, no doubt, Robes. Congress. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.920 The House representative just said, okay, release the files. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.280 And there has been a dramatic change in just a 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.560 matter of hours because. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:57.040 The President changed his tunes, and. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.600 All of a sudden, we see all the Republicans changing 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.440 their tunes because it did take a few rogue, brave 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.240 Republicans to break rank and vote with the Democrats for 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.840 them to realize, hey, we might lose this thing. And 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.480 so look, the President, if nothing else, is a realist. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.280 He saw the numbers, he saw where things were headed, 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.759 and he decided to be on the winning side of things. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.680 As we call it writing on the wall, we call 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:25.560 it that right. Yes, the back and forth for months 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.000 not wanting to release the files. And to think the 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:35.160 vote was not close, It wasn't competitive, Robes, this was 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:40.959 almost everybody in Congress, after all this voted to say 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.360 yes to releasing the files. After all, this what we're 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.040 fighting about for the past severe exactly. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.720 And so then you asked, Robes, why would anyone not. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:48.800 Want to run to the files? 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.600 Okay, we understand initially the president said it was to 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.440 protect the victims, and yet they were the first people 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.920 to say, oh, that victim that you guys are pointing, Yeah, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:01:59.960 that was Virginia ju freh. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.440 So they actually outed one of the. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.840 Redacted names almost immediately from some of the released emails. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.320 And at that point, honestly, when you've got the victims themselves, 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.840 when you've got the women whose names were redacted or 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:21.560 whose names weren't included because they were underage, standing there 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.200 on Capitol Hill, while this vote is about to happen, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.600 saying release the files, and the only argument is on 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:35.480 behalf of the victim's identities, you gott a pr problem 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.399 because if the victims who you're claiming that you want 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.720 to protect are saying that they want you to release 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.720 the files, that's a tough argument to continue. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.480 And that's what they were dealing with today, folks in Washington, DC. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.640 So it was another Epstein day in large parts. So 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.120 your headlines today is that, yes, the House voted to 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:01.440 release all Epstein files. You have a big time Democrat 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.880 saying that he is ashamed of his relationship with Jeffrey 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.320 Epstein and saying he is going to step back from 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:14.079 his public roles. This is the former Harvard President Larry Summers. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.640 And of course, as you heard Robot just mentioning there, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.440 you had a press conference with the survivors. Let's start 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.359 what we saw late today ropes the back and forth 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.239 over months, the White House, the President has been fighting, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.040 fighting to keep a vote from taking place for all 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.280 these Epstein files to be released. But sure enough they 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.520 forced the hand. They didn't have a choice. Let's be 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.440 clear today, the White House and the Speaker of the 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.840 House of Representative did not have a choice. They had 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.200 the votes at least the what they call it a 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.280 discharged position petition. We've learned a lot about how the 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.240 House of Representatives works. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.760 Yes, when your only argument is that you're protecting the 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.480 very people who are claiming they want you to release it, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.440 it's hard to continue with that line of arguments. So yes, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.760 the vote ended up being four hundred and twenty seven 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:05.440 to one. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.840 What was the point of what to release all the 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:08.560 Epstein files? 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.360 What are we fighting about for the past several months? 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:16.160 Then if everybody overwhelmingly now yeple's that was unanimous, damn near. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:17.360 There was one guy. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:24.080 Public political pressure from the victims themselves saying please, and 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.960 they have been saying this for months now, but it 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.160 was especially effective today for them to be on Capitol 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.640 Hill saying please release these files. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.839 Let's be clear here, this was, as we said, the 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:42.279 Democrats had enough votes. They had enough votes to force 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.720 a vote. They did not have to leave it up 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.760 to Speaker Johnson, but they had enough votes to force 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.360 a vote. And that's why we are where we are today. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.359 This was not the President or Speaker Johnson saying, you 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.520 know what, out the goodness of our hearts, public pressure, No, no, no, no, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.400 they had no choice. There were enough votes to force 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.360 this vote. So sure, now, as you said, Ropes, the 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.720 President got on board with this just in the past 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.760 twenty four to forty eight hours, correct saying sure, go ahead, 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.880 I don't care. And also as a part and added 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.640 bonus to this. He tried to flip the script and saying, hey, 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.720 this is bad for Democrats, not Republicans. Knock yourselves out, 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:22.479 release this stuff. 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.840 Let's look at Bill Clinton, Let's look at Larry Summers, 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.520 let's look at JP Morgan, Chase. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.840 He starts throwing every other name out there. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:34.840 My hunch is that perhaps maybe some of the worst 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.320 emails that he thought were going to be the most 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:42.920 damaging or damning emails got released in this House committee. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.120 They were able to get some of these emails twenty 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:50.359 thousand plus emails from Jeffrey Epstein from that estate and 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.440 release them, trickle them out like day after day. So 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.080 he has been enduring day after day after day of 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.920 new headlines, new emails, can connections and ties between him 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:02.799 and Jeffrey Epstein. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.839 He's kind of suffered through the worst of it. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.640 So at this point I maybe can understand he's like, 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.000 you know what, let's just release them all because the 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.160 worst of the worst perhaps has already been released on him. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.360 Maybe what he was fearing the most has already been released. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.600 There's that possibility as well, that possibility, but I mean, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.520 truth of the matter, the man didn't have he had 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.440 no choice, there's nothing to do. So he is on board, 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.000 said he's going to sign this thing. So that freed 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:35.040 up a lot of people to say they don't feel 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:40.200 necessarily chained restricted in voting for it, because the President 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.160 himself has said he's on fort So sure enough, they 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.320 did this, Robes. I'm looking at this as we are 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.840 sitting here. As of this recording, the Senate has now 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:57.560 moved forward with releasing these files. The Senate. Now, this 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.560 was a hold up. We didn't know as we started 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.480 this record, folks, we didn't know what the Senate was 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.359 going to do. This bill has now been sent to 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.520 the Senate Robes, and there was a question of whether 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.360 or not they would take it up, when they would 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.120 take it up, and if they would change it at all. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.800 A lot of folks thought that this could happen immediately, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.000 and I do think here is Look, this is such 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.120 a headline and such this is the empowerment of the 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:24.120 American public. When lawmakers, the president, congressmen and women realize 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.920 that public sentiment is squarely on one side of the fence, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:29.360 they will come to us. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.720 They will meet us where we are. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.920 They don't want to be on the wrong side of 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.640 things when it comes to reelection, etc. So it's very 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.600 clear now to all lawmakers in the House, and now 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.120 it appears in the Senate that you don't want to 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:45.800 be on the wrong side of this one. You don't 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.720 want to be on the side of let's not release 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.960 information to the American public. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.480 That clears up all of this mystery that has. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:08:00.400 Been surrounding this man and these victims for decades now cleared. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.160 Who wouldn't be on the side of transparency. That is 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.560 hard to justify with American sentiment, where it is not 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.360 shocking that the Senate is saying, let's go ahead and 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:10.000 streamline this. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.280 So, yes, folks, as of this recording, this is happening 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.200 as we are speaking. But the Senate has unanimously voted, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:22.520 they've given unanimous consent now to move that bill ahead 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.120 when they receive it. So the only hold up right now, 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.240 Robes is just them getting the thing they've already voted to. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.760 When we receive it, We're gonna go ahead to prove 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:37.439 this thing. It could be on President Trump's desk tonight, signed, sealed, delivered, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:41.320 and before the day is out, we have got a bill, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.480 a law that is now saying the Epstein files must 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:50.600 be released by the DJ and robes this has Is 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.400 this gonna satisfy everybody? Finally? 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:53.280 I think it will. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.720 You think I will know as long as we actually 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.640 get all of the files. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.240 Yes, because that's always been the case. There's always be all. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.760 I know, we just got twenty thousand emails we didn't 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:06.160 even know. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.240 I didn't know existing that was from the estate, but 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.240 didn't know that that was even on the table. 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.440 What else is out there? 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.160 So now if we now have an order to have 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.960 everything released, what else is there? Once you have everything 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.520 out in the open, there is nothing else. So I 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:30.480 do think this will put conspiracy theory theorists either they'll either. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.680 Be proven right or it'll be put to bed. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.760 But it is nice to at least have the information 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.440 that we've all been seeking for all these years, and 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.040 for some of these victims decades trying to get out 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.440 in the open, trying to get people to give a 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.080 shit about. And so the cool thing is people care now, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:53.319 and now when you've got American public sentiment, they want 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.240 to know. Now, the pressure is on lawmakers, and wow, 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:03.080 turns out when there is pressure, they actually can act, 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.320 and they can actually act unanimously. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:09.280 You know, I'm not gonna give it. I'm not gonna 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:14.280 give them too much credit. This is literally Grivalda representative, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:19.080 Grivalda from Arizona. They delayed and delayed and delayed swearing 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.880 her in that gave and put over the top a 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.520 number of votes to where they were. Their hand was forced. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.640 This wasn't even a matter that much of I just 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.240 I hate I get it, but they did. They had 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.560 they were forced to because of the number of votes. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.480 And that's fine. And they've come around now. That's fine. 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.040 And Dan the president has done it. He's come around now, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.920 and he's trying a new tact. Let me try this now. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.040 He is trying to turn Epstein into a Democrats problem. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.600 Even he is the one who is named in the 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.720 majority of these emails, and it isn't good for him. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:01.560 The emails that we've seen are horrific. Why is not 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.000 not even being discussed? 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.840 Well, it is, obviously, but he has not been accused 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.640 of anything criminal, no it related to Epstein. It just 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.680 all looks bad, it looks funky. Why not just get 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.600 this stuff out there? A lot of it's going to 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:19.240 be embarrassing. I am sure, and I think no one 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.120 can attest to that more than Larry Summers. Stay here, folks, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:27.960 will tell you what the former Harvard president, current Harvard 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:34.040 tenured professor, and former Obama and Clinton administration officials says 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.560 now about his relationship with Epstein. What he's going to 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:42.120 do now now that so many emails have come out 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:47.120 about his relationship between him and Epstein. Also coming up, 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.400 we told you the vote was for what twenty seven 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.240 to one? Is that right, Ropes? It's correct, four hundred 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.160 and twenty seven to one in the House of Representatives 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.800 to release the files. Who was the one? He was 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:04.960 a dude from Louisiana and he is standing by that vote. 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:17.160 We'll let you hear his statements. Stay here, all right, folks, 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.000 Welcome back. We continue here. Four twenty seven to one. Robes. 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.200 They voted, and it's got to be tough and lonely 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.000 to be that one guy, right four hunch. Overwhelmingly, you'll 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.439 never see a vote like this, right on something so consequential. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.520 I have never seen a vote like this with these 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.760 many eyes on this vote, so many people are looking 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:42.480 to see who voted what way and to be lone 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:47.440 the lone congressman who voted no when everyone else voted yes. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.840 And the vote is for transparency. The vote is for 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.960 the release of documents. The vote is for folks to 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:58.480 understand what we're actually dealing with when it comes to 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:03.560 the epstecize, would you possibly justify a no vote when 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.600 the President of the United States, who potentially has the 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.680 most to lose, yes out of anybody even him, go 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.079 ahead release the file? 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.040 He said? Transparency, isn't it? Cole? That is the official 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.520 name of the bill is the Jeffrey Epstein Transparency Yes. 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.040 Okay, so well named okay so? 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:27.280 Who is drum roll please? Who stood by his guns? 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.560 And no matter what, was not going to vote for 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:31.080 this one. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:37.640 Roges Representative Clay Higgins, who a Republican from Louisiana. All right, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.360 he said, I have been principled no on this bill 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.520 from the beginning. What was wrong with the bill three 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:51.320 months ago is still wrong today. It abandons two hundred 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.840 and fifty years of criminal justice procedure in America. As written, 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:02.080 this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people, witnesses, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:07.679 people who provided alibis, family members, et cetera. If enacted 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.800 in its current form, this type of broad reveal of 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:17.960 criminal investigative files released to a rabid media will absolutely 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.080 result in innocent people being hurt. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:22.560 Not by my vote. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.680 Okay, to stop saying, we're going to read the rest 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.520 of it here as well. Do you buy that so far? 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:33.240 How can four hundred and twenty seven people not see 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.040 what he sees? Right? Is he the only because if 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.480 you take him at his word, we'd all go, oh 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.720 my god, no, of course we shouldn't do We shouldn't 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.080 be doing that. So how is it? Is he standing 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.840 by his guns? He's trying to make a point? Is 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:48.720 he trying to get attention? 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.000 I think all of the three things you just said. 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:57.080 My counter to what he just said and wrote as 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:03.280 to his reasoning behind voting no is bs. Because when 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.440 you have the victims themselves, the women who take claims 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:12.320 to be protecting, standing there on Capitol Hill begging lawmakers, 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.520 begging the president to release the files, I call bs. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.000 You can't possibly know what they know. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.560 And for you to act like you know what's best 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:28.560 for them is condescending and for me, it doesn't It 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:29.400 doesn't work. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.240 That's fair. Wait, we still will take him at his 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:37.160 word as this being a principled one. But to your point, 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.640 and that you made me think of our stands when 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:43.600 it comes to the death penalty. If the victims family 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.720 doesn't want the person to be put to death, we 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.160 should listen to that person. This is kind of feels 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.080 like that to me. To your point, isn't that what 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:51.600 you're saying? 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.600 No better, I know what's best for you. Yeah, that 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.800 you know what's best for you. That's the only way 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.600 I can take this, because we've heard directly from the 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:06.480 women who were the victims in this situation. And so 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.160 for him to say he doesn't want the information released 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.000 to the American public on behalf of the victims who 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:18.600 are asking for the information to be released, I call bs. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.000 On that, Okay. So he continues on saying the Oversight 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.080 Committee is conducting a thorough investigation that has already released 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.440 well over sixty thousand paties of documents from the Epstein case. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.360 That effort will continue in a manner that provides all 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.640 due protections for innocent Americans. If the Senate amends the 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:39.840 bill to properly address privacy of victims and other Americans 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.160 who are named but not criminally implicated, then I will 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.920 vote for that bill when it comes back to the House. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:52.480 He does robes. I will say make a point because 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.920 even if the Senate votes and accepts the House built 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.080 and say, hey, everybody, the President signed a bill to 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.000 release all the fire, there might be a while for 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.840 law enforcement, you know, FBI and others to go through 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:14.240 this and make sure no in current investigation is being hurt, 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.960 to make sure no victims' names or innocent witnesses or 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.760 their names are out there. So this could take a while, 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.560 which now a public who is waiting for the files. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.040 It's been approved that the files could go out, and 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:29.960 now we still got further weight. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:32.919 But is that enough to vote no? 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.040 His argument is that he doesn't think it has proper 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.560 enough protections in the bill for. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.320 The very people who are asking for it to be released. 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.679 And I'm sure there are some out there, aren't there 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.280 a witness, his his thing, people who have provided alibis, witnesses, 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.480 family members, those things need to be redacted. I would 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.399 assume they would be. But he's saying it doesn't have 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.480 proper protections. He's the only one. I don't all of 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:01.240 them doesn't think. 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.320 What's his motivation? I'm actually curious and fascinating. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.440 What if it's sincere, and I know it's very lonely 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.160 to be the person who might be screaming and yelling 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.520 about something that nobody everybody else seems right. Maybe he 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.240 has a point, I don't know. I actually don't. 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.440 You are a contrarian, so I can see you siding 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.880 with and feeling some sort of camaraderie with the contrallrier. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:29.600 I am not suggesting contrarian at but he is though 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.919 in this case. But I am saying, I know what 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.000 it feels like to be a lonely person when you 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.400 might be right and everybody else thinks they are because 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.240 they're on the same page. I am not. So I'm 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.960 just trying to lend or offer this man, Representative Higgins, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:49.080 a little opportunity and a little grace for the possibility 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.679 that he is standing by what he truly believes and 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.600 that his motivations are just such rare. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.840 And I think that would be admirable if that were 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.360 in fact the case, because obviously he knows it's not 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.240 actually going to move the needle, is not actually going 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.040 to change things, but he wants to be on the 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.480 record for whatever it is he believed. So yes, if 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.360 you are correct, that would be amazing. Forgive me if 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.320 I am slightly cynical when it comes to members of Congress. 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.480 Oh no, not me. I have faith in our system. Now. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.399 The other point we had was on this. It was 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.760 a big Epstein day, the Epstein surviris, as you mentioned 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.080 several of them. That's always powerful, Is it not to 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.360 have a woman standing there in her I guess they're 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.399 an forties and fifties at this point, are they not? 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.560 But to be standing there with pictures. They were holding 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.919 up pictures of themselves as teenagers and saying, this is 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.080 how old I was when I was abused by this man. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:42.320 That's powerful stuff. 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:42.960 It is. 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.560 I think that is such an important thing for all 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.120 of us to remember. We see these women and they 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.959 are women now, but when this was happening to them 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.600 decades ago, they were teenagers. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.600 And that You look at women's stories and what they've 0:19:58.640 --> 0:19:59.399 been through very. 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.040 Differently based on how old they are, what the experience 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.200 is that they've had. And these were women who were 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:12.679 underage and clearly not in a position to be to 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:19.040 be put in the position of transaction sex transactions. These 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:22.119 were vulnerable women. They told their stories. A lot of 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:26.320 these women were not in positions of power or education, 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.800 or had strong family ties, or they didn't have the 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:34.200 resources that they may seem to have now as grown women, 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.560 and so yes, it's important to remember them. 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.199 Where they were, who they were, what they looked like 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.280 when these atrocities were happenings. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.000 You know, we don't children is a name. We don't 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.760 assign enough to teen girls. 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:55.000 They're little there, they are children. Even my nineteen year 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.400 old Anil's is a child. 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.359 Children. I think that. I think the thing with the 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:05.160 pictures today was very It was effective, powerful and impactful. 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.760 The other big headline today with Epstein is a name 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.440 I don't think. Maybe it sounds familiar to some people, 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.320 but Larry Summers has been in democratic circles and at 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.879 the highest point of governance for decades in this country 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.920 and including as a Harvard professor. But Roes I didn't 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.159 even realize. I was familiar with stories and whatnot. But 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:29.280 this former Harvard president and current tenured Harvard professor, this 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:33.800 latest batch of emails wrote show some interactions between him 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.639 and Jeffrey Epstein that don't show anything criminal, don't show 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:44.439 anything suggesting criminality and anything in that relationship. But god damn, 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:50.160 this was all after Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex offender, 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.040 and they were as chummy and broie as it gets. 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.840 And look, I'm gonna say this, they guess they were 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:00.399 chummy and broe but it was look yes, after the 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.920 fact that he was a convicted. 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:06.119 Pedophile. 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.840 Yes, and for several years leading up to just the 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:15.800 few months before Jeffrey Epstein was arrested once again and 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:21.200 then soon thereafter died by suicide. So but the gross 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:25.760 thing about it was here's a Harvard tenured professor with 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:32.480 tremendous power and sway and is talking to Jeffrey Epstein 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.879 about how to woo women. 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:36.960 That was what was so gross about it. 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:42.200 He was leaning on Jeffrey Epstein, a known convicted pedophile, 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:46.879 and getting tips from him on how to converse with 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:52.040 and send text messages to women outside of his marriage 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:56.879 to basically get them, like to string them along or 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:58.200 to keep them going. 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.840 It was gross. And the idea that you would. 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:05.960 Be sending your child to Harvard to learn under this 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:12.639 man's tutelage, who, yes, might be a remarkably gifted, intelligent economist. 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:16.639 Clearly you don't want your daughter in his classroom. 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:17.600 Period. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:21.800 When you read and see these exchanges. I'm sorry, that's 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.320 just me as a mom speaking. I don't want my 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:25.560 daughter in his class. 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:30.639