1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Tuesday, November the eighth, and 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: what do a Harvard professor, survivors of sex abuse, and 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: members of Congress all have in common? Jeffrey Epstein and 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: welcome everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ. What 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: a day we saw in DC. Robes. It is amazing. 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: This man has been dead for five plus years and 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: continues to have an impact in this country on our politics, 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: on our policy, and nr on our headlines. But the 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: headline today is the biggest one, no doubt, Robes. Congress. 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: The House representative just said, okay, release the files. 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: And there has been a dramatic change in just a 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: matter of hours because. 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: The President changed his tunes, and. 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, we see all the Republicans changing 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: their tunes because it did take a few rogue, brave 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: Republicans to break rank and vote with the Democrats for 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: them to realize, hey, we might lose this thing. And 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: so look, the President, if nothing else, is a realist. 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: He saw the numbers, he saw where things were headed, 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: and he decided to be on the winning side of things. 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: As we call it writing on the wall, we call 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: it that right. Yes, the back and forth for months 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: not wanting to release the files. And to think the 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: vote was not close, It wasn't competitive, Robes, this was 25 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: almost everybody in Congress, after all this voted to say 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: yes to releasing the files. After all, this what we're 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: fighting about for the past severe exactly. 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: And so then you asked, Robes, why would anyone not. 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Want to run to the files? 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Okay, we understand initially the president said it was to 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: protect the victims, and yet they were the first people 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: to say, oh, that victim that you guys are pointing, Yeah, 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: that was Virginia ju freh. 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: So they actually outed one of the. 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: Redacted names almost immediately from some of the released emails. 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: And at that point, honestly, when you've got the victims themselves, 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: when you've got the women whose names were redacted or 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: whose names weren't included because they were underage, standing there 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill, while this vote is about to happen, 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: saying release the files, and the only argument is on 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: behalf of the victim's identities, you gott a pr problem 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 2: because if the victims who you're claiming that you want 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: to protect are saying that they want you to release 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: the files, that's a tough argument to continue. 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: And that's what they were dealing with today, folks in Washington, DC. 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: So it was another Epstein day in large parts. So 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: your headlines today is that, yes, the House voted to 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: release all Epstein files. You have a big time Democrat 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: saying that he is ashamed of his relationship with Jeffrey 50 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Epstein and saying he is going to step back from 51 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: his public roles. This is the former Harvard President Larry Summers. 52 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: And of course, as you heard Robot just mentioning there, 53 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: you had a press conference with the survivors. Let's start 54 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: what we saw late today ropes the back and forth 55 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: over months, the White House, the President has been fighting, 56 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: fighting to keep a vote from taking place for all 57 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: these Epstein files to be released. But sure enough they 58 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: forced the hand. They didn't have a choice. Let's be 59 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: clear today, the White House and the Speaker of the 60 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: House of Representative did not have a choice. They had 61 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: the votes at least the what they call it a 62 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: discharged position petition. We've learned a lot about how the 63 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: House of Representatives works. 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Yes, when your only argument is that you're protecting the 65 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: very people who are claiming they want you to release it, 66 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: it's hard to continue with that line of arguments. So yes, 67 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: the vote ended up being four hundred and twenty seven 68 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: to one. 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: What was the point of what to release all the 70 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: Epstein files? 71 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: What are we fighting about for the past several months? 72 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Then if everybody overwhelmingly now yeple's that was unanimous, damn near. 73 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: There was one guy. 74 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: Public political pressure from the victims themselves saying please, and 75 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: they have been saying this for months now, but it 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: was especially effective today for them to be on Capitol 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Hill saying please release these files. 78 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: Let's be clear here, this was, as we said, the 79 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: Democrats had enough votes. They had enough votes to force 80 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: a vote. They did not have to leave it up 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: to Speaker Johnson, but they had enough votes to force 82 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: a vote. And that's why we are where we are today. 83 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: This was not the President or Speaker Johnson saying, you 84 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: know what, out the goodness of our hearts, public pressure, No, no, no, no, 85 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: they had no choice. There were enough votes to force 86 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: this vote. So sure, now, as you said, Ropes, the 87 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: President got on board with this just in the past 88 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: twenty four to forty eight hours, correct saying sure, go ahead, 89 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't care. And also as a part and added 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: bonus to this. He tried to flip the script and saying, hey, 91 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: this is bad for Democrats, not Republicans. Knock yourselves out, 92 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: release this stuff. 93 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: Let's look at Bill Clinton, Let's look at Larry Summers, 94 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: let's look at JP Morgan, Chase. 95 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: He starts throwing every other name out there. 96 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: My hunch is that perhaps maybe some of the worst 97 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: emails that he thought were going to be the most 98 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: damaging or damning emails got released in this House committee. 99 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: They were able to get some of these emails twenty 100 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: thousand plus emails from Jeffrey Epstein from that estate and 101 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: release them, trickle them out like day after day. So 102 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: he has been enduring day after day after day of 103 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: new headlines, new emails, can connections and ties between him 104 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 2: and Jeffrey Epstein. 105 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: He's kind of suffered through the worst of it. 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: So at this point I maybe can understand he's like, 107 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: you know what, let's just release them all because the 108 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: worst of the worst perhaps has already been released on him. 109 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: Maybe what he was fearing the most has already been released. 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: There's that possibility as well, that possibility, but I mean, 111 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: truth of the matter, the man didn't have he had 112 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: no choice, there's nothing to do. So he is on board, 113 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: said he's going to sign this thing. So that freed 114 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: up a lot of people to say they don't feel 115 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: necessarily chained restricted in voting for it, because the President 116 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: himself has said he's on fort So sure enough, they 117 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: did this, Robes. I'm looking at this as we are 118 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: sitting here. As of this recording, the Senate has now 119 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: moved forward with releasing these files. The Senate. Now, this 120 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: was a hold up. We didn't know as we started 121 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: this record, folks, we didn't know what the Senate was 122 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: going to do. This bill has now been sent to 123 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: the Senate Robes, and there was a question of whether 124 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: or not they would take it up, when they would 125 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: take it up, and if they would change it at all. 126 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: A lot of folks thought that this could happen immediately, 127 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: and I do think here is Look, this is such 128 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: a headline and such this is the empowerment of the 129 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: American public. When lawmakers, the president, congressmen and women realize 130 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: that public sentiment is squarely on one side of the fence, 131 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: they will come to us. 132 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: They will meet us where we are. 133 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: They don't want to be on the wrong side of 134 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: things when it comes to reelection, etc. So it's very 135 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: clear now to all lawmakers in the House, and now 136 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: it appears in the Senate that you don't want to 137 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: be on the wrong side of this one. You don't 138 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: want to be on the side of let's not release 139 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: information to the American public. 140 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: That clears up all of this mystery that has. 141 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: Been surrounding this man and these victims for decades now cleared. 142 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: Who wouldn't be on the side of transparency. That is 143 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: hard to justify with American sentiment, where it is not 144 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: shocking that the Senate is saying, let's go ahead and 145 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: streamline this. 146 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: So, yes, folks, as of this recording, this is happening 147 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: as we are speaking. But the Senate has unanimously voted, 148 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: they've given unanimous consent now to move that bill ahead 149 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: when they receive it. So the only hold up right now, 150 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: Robes is just them getting the thing they've already voted to. 151 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: When we receive it, We're gonna go ahead to prove 152 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: this thing. It could be on President Trump's desk tonight, signed, sealed, delivered, 153 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: and before the day is out, we have got a bill, 154 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: a law that is now saying the Epstein files must 155 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: be released by the DJ and robes this has Is 156 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: this gonna satisfy everybody? Finally? 157 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: I think it will. 158 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: You think I will know as long as we actually 159 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: get all of the files. 160 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: Yes, because that's always been the case. There's always be all. 161 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: I know, we just got twenty thousand emails we didn't 162 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: even know. 163 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know existing that was from the estate, but 164 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: didn't know that that was even on the table. 165 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: What else is out there? 166 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: So now if we now have an order to have 167 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: everything released, what else is there? Once you have everything 168 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: out in the open, there is nothing else. So I 169 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: do think this will put conspiracy theory theorists either they'll either. 170 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: Be proven right or it'll be put to bed. 171 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: But it is nice to at least have the information 172 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: that we've all been seeking for all these years, and 173 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: for some of these victims decades trying to get out 174 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: in the open, trying to get people to give a 175 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: shit about. And so the cool thing is people care now, 176 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: and now when you've got American public sentiment, they want 177 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: to know. Now, the pressure is on lawmakers, and wow, 178 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: turns out when there is pressure, they actually can act, 179 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: and they can actually act unanimously. 180 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna give it. I'm not gonna 181 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: give them too much credit. This is literally Grivalda representative, 182 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: Grivalda from Arizona. They delayed and delayed and delayed swearing 183 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: her in that gave and put over the top a 184 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: number of votes to where they were. Their hand was forced. 185 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: This wasn't even a matter that much of I just 186 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: I hate I get it, but they did. They had 187 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: they were forced to because of the number of votes. 188 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: And that's fine. And they've come around now. That's fine. 189 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: And Dan the president has done it. He's come around now, 190 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: and he's trying a new tact. Let me try this now. 191 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: He is trying to turn Epstein into a Democrats problem. 192 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: Even he is the one who is named in the 193 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: majority of these emails, and it isn't good for him. 194 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: The emails that we've seen are horrific. Why is not 195 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: not even being discussed? 196 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: Well, it is, obviously, but he has not been accused 197 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: of anything criminal, no it related to Epstein. It just 198 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: all looks bad, it looks funky. Why not just get 199 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: this stuff out there? A lot of it's going to 200 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: be embarrassing. I am sure, and I think no one 201 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: can attest to that more than Larry Summers. Stay here, folks, 202 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: will tell you what the former Harvard president, current Harvard 203 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: tenured professor, and former Obama and Clinton administration officials says 204 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: now about his relationship with Epstein. What he's going to 205 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: do now now that so many emails have come out 206 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: about his relationship between him and Epstein. Also coming up, 207 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: we told you the vote was for what twenty seven 208 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: to one? Is that right, Ropes? It's correct, four hundred 209 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and twenty seven to one in the House of Representatives 210 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: to release the files. Who was the one? He was 211 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: a dude from Louisiana and he is standing by that vote. 212 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: We'll let you hear his statements. Stay here, all right, folks, 213 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back. We continue here. Four twenty seven to one. Robes. 214 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: They voted, and it's got to be tough and lonely 215 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: to be that one guy, right four hunch. Overwhelmingly, you'll 216 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: never see a vote like this, right on something so consequential. 217 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: I have never seen a vote like this with these 218 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: many eyes on this vote, so many people are looking 219 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: to see who voted what way and to be lone 220 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: the lone congressman who voted no when everyone else voted yes. 221 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: And the vote is for transparency. The vote is for 222 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: the release of documents. The vote is for folks to 223 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: understand what we're actually dealing with when it comes to 224 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: the epstecize, would you possibly justify a no vote when 225 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: the President of the United States, who potentially has the 226 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: most to lose, yes out of anybody even him, go 227 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: ahead release the file? 228 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: He said? Transparency, isn't it? Cole? That is the official 229 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: name of the bill is the Jeffrey Epstein Transparency Yes. 230 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: Okay, so well named okay so? 231 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Who is drum roll please? Who stood by his guns? 232 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: And no matter what, was not going to vote for 233 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: this one. 234 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: Roges Representative Clay Higgins, who a Republican from Louisiana. All right, 235 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: he said, I have been principled no on this bill 236 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: from the beginning. What was wrong with the bill three 237 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: months ago is still wrong today. It abandons two hundred 238 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: and fifty years of criminal justice procedure in America. As written, 239 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people, witnesses, 240 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: people who provided alibis, family members, et cetera. If enacted 241 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: in its current form, this type of broad reveal of 242 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: criminal investigative files released to a rabid media will absolutely 243 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: result in innocent people being hurt. 244 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: Not by my vote. 245 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Okay, to stop saying, we're going to read the rest 246 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: of it here as well. Do you buy that so far? 247 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: How can four hundred and twenty seven people not see 248 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: what he sees? Right? Is he the only because if 249 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: you take him at his word, we'd all go, oh 250 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: my god, no, of course we shouldn't do We shouldn't 251 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: be doing that. So how is it? Is he standing 252 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: by his guns? He's trying to make a point? Is 253 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: he trying to get attention? 254 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: I think all of the three things you just said. 255 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: My counter to what he just said and wrote as 256 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: to his reasoning behind voting no is bs. Because when 257 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: you have the victims themselves, the women who take claims 258 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: to be protecting, standing there on Capitol Hill begging lawmakers, 259 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: begging the president to release the files, I call bs. 260 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: You can't possibly know what they know. 261 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: And for you to act like you know what's best 262 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: for them is condescending and for me, it doesn't It 263 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: doesn't work. 264 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: That's fair. Wait, we still will take him at his 265 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: word as this being a principled one. But to your point, 266 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: and that you made me think of our stands when 267 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: it comes to the death penalty. If the victims family 268 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: doesn't want the person to be put to death, we 269 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: should listen to that person. This is kind of feels 270 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: like that to me. To your point, isn't that what 271 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: you're saying? 272 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: No better, I know what's best for you. Yeah, that 273 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: you know what's best for you. That's the only way 274 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: I can take this, because we've heard directly from the 275 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: women who were the victims in this situation. And so 276 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: for him to say he doesn't want the information released 277 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: to the American public on behalf of the victims who 278 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: are asking for the information to be released, I call bs. 279 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: On that, Okay. So he continues on saying the Oversight 280 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Committee is conducting a thorough investigation that has already released 281 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: well over sixty thousand paties of documents from the Epstein case. 282 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: That effort will continue in a manner that provides all 283 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: due protections for innocent Americans. If the Senate amends the 284 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: bill to properly address privacy of victims and other Americans 285 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: who are named but not criminally implicated, then I will 286 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: vote for that bill when it comes back to the House. 287 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: He does robes. I will say make a point because 288 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: even if the Senate votes and accepts the House built 289 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: and say, hey, everybody, the President signed a bill to 290 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: release all the fire, there might be a while for 291 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: law enforcement, you know, FBI and others to go through 292 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: this and make sure no in current investigation is being hurt, 293 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: to make sure no victims' names or innocent witnesses or 294 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: their names are out there. So this could take a while, 295 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: which now a public who is waiting for the files. 296 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: It's been approved that the files could go out, and 297 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: now we still got further weight. 298 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: But is that enough to vote no? 299 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: His argument is that he doesn't think it has proper 300 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: enough protections in the bill for. 301 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: The very people who are asking for it to be released. 302 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: And I'm sure there are some out there, aren't there 303 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: a witness, his his thing, people who have provided alibis, witnesses, 304 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: family members, those things need to be redacted. I would 305 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: assume they would be. But he's saying it doesn't have 306 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: proper protections. He's the only one. I don't all of 307 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: them doesn't think. 308 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: What's his motivation? I'm actually curious and fascinating. 309 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: What if it's sincere, and I know it's very lonely 310 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: to be the person who might be screaming and yelling 311 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: about something that nobody everybody else seems right. Maybe he 312 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: has a point, I don't know. I actually don't. 313 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: You are a contrarian, so I can see you siding 314 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 2: with and feeling some sort of camaraderie with the contrallrier. 315 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: I am not suggesting contrarian at but he is though 316 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: in this case. But I am saying, I know what 317 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: it feels like to be a lonely person when you 318 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: might be right and everybody else thinks they are because 319 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: they're on the same page. I am not. So I'm 320 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: just trying to lend or offer this man, Representative Higgins, 321 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: a little opportunity and a little grace for the possibility 322 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: that he is standing by what he truly believes and 323 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: that his motivations are just such rare. 324 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: And I think that would be admirable if that were 325 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 2: in fact the case, because obviously he knows it's not 326 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: actually going to move the needle, is not actually going 327 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: to change things, but he wants to be on the 328 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: record for whatever it is he believed. So yes, if 329 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 2: you are correct, that would be amazing. Forgive me if 330 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: I am slightly cynical when it comes to members of Congress. 331 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, not me. I have faith in our system. Now. 332 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: The other point we had was on this. It was 333 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: a big Epstein day, the Epstein surviris, as you mentioned 334 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: several of them. That's always powerful, Is it not to 335 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: have a woman standing there in her I guess they're 336 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: an forties and fifties at this point, are they not? 337 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: But to be standing there with pictures. They were holding 338 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: up pictures of themselves as teenagers and saying, this is 339 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: how old I was when I was abused by this man. 340 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: That's powerful stuff. 341 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: It is. 342 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: I think that is such an important thing for all 343 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: of us to remember. We see these women and they 344 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 2: are women now, but when this was happening to them 345 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: decades ago, they were teenagers. 346 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: And that You look at women's stories and what they've 347 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: been through very. 348 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: Differently based on how old they are, what the experience 349 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: is that they've had. And these were women who were 350 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 2: underage and clearly not in a position to be to 351 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: be put in the position of transaction sex transactions. These 352 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: were vulnerable women. They told their stories. A lot of 353 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: these women were not in positions of power or education, 354 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: or had strong family ties, or they didn't have the 355 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: resources that they may seem to have now as grown women, 356 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: and so yes, it's important to remember them. 357 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: Where they were, who they were, what they looked like 358 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: when these atrocities were happenings. 359 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: You know, we don't children is a name. We don't 360 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: assign enough to teen girls. 361 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: They're little there, they are children. Even my nineteen year 362 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: old Anil's is a child. 363 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Children. I think that. I think the thing with the 364 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: pictures today was very It was effective, powerful and impactful. 365 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: The other big headline today with Epstein is a name 366 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't think. Maybe it sounds familiar to some people, 367 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: but Larry Summers has been in democratic circles and at 368 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: the highest point of governance for decades in this country 369 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: and including as a Harvard professor. But Roes I didn't 370 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: even realize. I was familiar with stories and whatnot. But 371 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: this former Harvard president and current tenured Harvard professor, this 372 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: latest batch of emails wrote show some interactions between him 373 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein that don't show anything criminal, don't show 374 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: anything suggesting criminality and anything in that relationship. But god damn, 375 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: this was all after Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex offender, 376 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: and they were as chummy and broie as it gets. 377 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: And look, I'm gonna say this, they guess they were 378 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: chummy and broe but it was look yes, after the 379 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: fact that he was a convicted. 380 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: Pedophile. 381 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: Yes, and for several years leading up to just the 382 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: few months before Jeffrey Epstein was arrested once again and 383 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: then soon thereafter died by suicide. So but the gross 384 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: thing about it was here's a Harvard tenured professor with 385 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: tremendous power and sway and is talking to Jeffrey Epstein 386 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: about how to woo women. 387 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: That was what was so gross about it. 388 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: He was leaning on Jeffrey Epstein, a known convicted pedophile, 389 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: and getting tips from him on how to converse with 390 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: and send text messages to women outside of his marriage 391 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: to basically get them, like to string them along or 392 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: to keep them going. 393 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: It was gross. And the idea that you would. 394 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: Be sending your child to Harvard to learn under this 395 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: man's tutelage, who, yes, might be a remarkably gifted, intelligent economist. 396 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: Clearly you don't want your daughter in his classroom. 397 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: Period. 398 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: When you read and see these exchanges. I'm sorry, that's 399 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: just me as a mom speaking. I don't want my 400 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: daughter in his class. 401 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would take necessarily issue with what 402 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: you're saying once you see the emails, and we want 403 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: to be clear, he folks, the emails are not suggesting anything. 404 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: I want to be clear. He is not at all 405 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: being accused of anything criminally and not being accused of 406 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: right robes being involved in going to the island and 407 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: with the massages and the teenagers, he is not involved 408 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: to connected. 409 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: Well, well, he's being what the problem is he's being 410 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: implicated is ignoring all of that. They're ignoring all of 411 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: what was known and still relying on him as. 412 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: A friend and a mentor to help him woo women. 413 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: I think that's the issue. He didn't even consider. 414 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: It seems in these emails and text exchange that what 415 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: he was convicted of and what he was accused of, 416 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: it didn't bother him at all to be personally and 417 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: intimately connected with the man who was guiding him in 418 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: extramarital potential relationships. 419 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: And what you're saying there is I think a lot 420 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: of the back and forth. You might be okay, fine, 421 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: a couple of guys doing that. I don't think everybody 422 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: would scratched a head or think that necessarily much of it. 423 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: But the emails in the back and forth were talking 424 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: about and robes. You said it, right, this went up 425 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: how many like how close before hisst months Within months, 426 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Larry Summers was still emailing and exchanging messages. 427 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: In the spring of twenty nineteen, they were still oh yeah, okay, 428 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: emailing each other back and forth about his this is 429 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: Larry Summers girl he was trying to go after and get. 430 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: That was literally within months of Jeffrey Epstein actually dying 431 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: by suicide in his jail cell. 432 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going I'm just to give a quick 433 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: idea here of what we're talking about again, folks. Jeffrey 434 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: Epstein at one point in twenty eighteen wrote to Larry Summers, 435 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: She's doomed to be with you again. They're back and 436 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: forth talking about a woman another professor from what we 437 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: understand at Harvard, that Larry Summers was sweet on and 438 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: was trying to pursue. But he was a mentor too. 439 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: Is that all right? Yes, okay, Larry Summers responds, Think 440 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: for now, I'm going nowhere with her except economics mentor 441 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm right now in the scene very warmly 442 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: in rear view mirror category. Again not none of this 443 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: suggests anything necessarily he's the worst guy in the world, 444 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: but it gives us some insight into the relationship he 445 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: had with Jeffrey Epstein. At another point, Larry Summers writes 446 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: to him, to Jeffrey Epstein game day at conference. He 447 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: was apparently at some event. She was extremely good, smart, 448 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: assertive and clear gorgeous. I'm fucked he was. Again. Several 449 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: of these and little back and force robes that show 450 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: that he was so close and chummy with the guy, 451 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: and the email exchanges I just read, We're in twenty 452 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty nineteen. There are a bunch more. And 453 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: again I'm not suggesting that any of these or smoking 454 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: gun type stuff related to what Jeffrey Epstein did. But 455 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: the reason Larry Summers robes has now come out and 456 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: said I'm stepping back from my public roles is that 457 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: these are embarrassing. They're devastating. They knew, we've known for 458 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 1: years he had a close relationship, but to see that 459 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: it was so close, even after a conviction for. 460 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: Sex, Yes, that he. 461 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: Was relying on Jeffrey Epstein to help guide him in 462 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: pursuing women outside of his marriage, knowing what he knew 463 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: about him, knowing what the world knew about him, and 464 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: still given his role at Harvard within the Democrat community, 465 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: that he was still so chummy that actually Epstein referred 466 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: to himself as Larry Summer's wingman. 467 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: That is not what you want to get out. And 468 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: that's certainly what has been revealed this week. 469 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: And that's why Summers stepping back now, but again wrote, 470 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: every single day, every single day, a guy has been 471 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: dead for six years. Yes, now almost is making headlines. 472 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: It's still changing lives, it's still bringing people down, it's 473 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: still number one in polity. Is still so much of 474 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: this may I have? This is incredible how much he touched. 475 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: My mom used to always tell me who you're friends 476 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: with matters, Who you hang out with, matters, Who you're 477 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: seen going out and doing whatever with matters. 478 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: This is exhibit A. It matters. 479 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: Even if you didn't commit a crime, even if you 480 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: didn't do anything technically wrong, just being associated with someone 481 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: who did matters. And this is what we're seeing unfold 482 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: right now. And transparency is everything. And it looks like 483 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: we are actually I'm shocked. I am shocked. We are 484 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: actually potentially going to actually know what is in the 485 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein files in a matter of days or weeks, 486 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: depending on what it takes to but they need to 487 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: redact to protect the privacy of whomever they need to protect. 488 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: But we are likely now going to see what we 489 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: have been waiting to see now for a very long. 490 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: Time, and that is worth a wow. Stay tuned again, folks. 491 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: Top right corner of your Apple podcast app screen on 492 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: our show page, little button says follow click that you 493 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: will always get our updates coming to you. 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