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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Billy. Actually, we got Ross Tucker filling in

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Speaker 1: for Dan today, who's on assignment, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what on assignment means. But and

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what Dan's doing either. I just

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Speaker 1: know that I am here. I feel like I'm here

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Speaker 1: almost every Monday after the draft. This is like an

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Speaker 1: annual tradition where I'm here the Monday after the draft,

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Speaker 1: which is amazing, by the way, because there's so much

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Speaker 1: to talk about. The NBA was awesome yesterday. I mean

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Speaker 1: Jonas Jonas, Jannis Hi Jonas. Should we go with Jonas

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Speaker 1: Jannis throwing it off the glass? That's what got me.

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Speaker 1: I think Jannis glass Janna is throwing it off the

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Speaker 1: glass and then dunking it was amazing. I'll say this

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Speaker 1: right now, I think John Morant might be my favorite

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Speaker 1: but John Morant is probably the most exciting player to

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Speaker 1: watch in the NBA. Right now, we have huge news

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Speaker 1: in the college football world that I'm not sure everybody

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Speaker 1: really understands or has heard about yet, because we've been

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Speaker 1: so entrenched with the draft. Cannot wait to talk with

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Speaker 1: Mike Renner from Pro Football Focus in about twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: to go over his draft grades, which reminds me, by

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Speaker 1: the way, if you're the type of person out there

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Speaker 1: who's listening right now, we're watching, and you are about

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Speaker 1: to say you can't do draft grades for three years, dude,

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Speaker 1: I don't ever want to hang out with you. You're

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Speaker 1: not invited to my beer pongk tournament. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to hang like that. Guy is not fun. Can't do

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Speaker 1: draft grades for three years, guy is not fun even

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yes, Paul. There's lots of people on

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Speaker 1: social media, especially media types, that say, like, you can't

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Speaker 1: truly grade a draft, to use that phrase, But then

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Speaker 1: a guy like mel Kiper says, you could. You could

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Speaker 1: judge draft strategy, like the Jets draft strategy or the

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Speaker 1: Eagles draft strategy. You could draft. You could judge that now,

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Speaker 1: And like malt Kiper was judging the Patriots draft strategy,

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Speaker 1: they're taking their guys not the right guys. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: like what, we don't do that for anything else. It's

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Speaker 1: like before the season, Ross, who do you think is

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Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl? Well? I don't think you

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Speaker 1: can really judge that till after the super Bowl. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why they's gonna win it after they

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Speaker 1: actually play the games. Like what, I don't even really

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Speaker 1: know what that means. It's like, well, we can't judge it,

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Speaker 1: we can't evaluate it till we know the results. Well,

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Speaker 1: then what listen, they'd have to cancel all of our shows.

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Speaker 1: They have to cancel the Dan Patrick show, they have

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Speaker 1: to cancel the Ross Tucker Football podcast. If we only

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Speaker 1: talked about things after they happened, what's the fun in that, Fritzie,

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. I mean, that makes no sense. And that's

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Speaker 1: not even my point. My point is the guy that

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Speaker 1: out with. Like, if you're that guy that like, you

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Speaker 1: can't really do it for three years, dude, do you like,

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Speaker 1: do you want to have that guy hang out with

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Speaker 1: you at a bar? Yes, Polly? So yeah, what if

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Speaker 1: we spent the entire day to day breaking down the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft, like now with what we know now

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Speaker 1: like no one's gonna listen to that, we can go

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Speaker 1: all day. It's a great point. It'd be like, let's

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's go back today and let's do the

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft. Raiders, bad draft, they took bad players.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to you, Polly. I mean, it's just not interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's not exciting at all. But I think most of

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Speaker 1: you know who I am, but I should probably introduce

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Speaker 1: myself because I know you guys get new listeners and

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Speaker 1: viewers all the time. Ross Tucker, former NFL offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: journeyman five teams, seven years. You can check me out

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Speaker 1: on social media. Got a bunch of podcasts now speaking

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Speaker 1: to that. By the way, I would love to hear

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Speaker 1: from you. Eight seven seven three DP show the emails

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Speaker 1: DP at Dan Patrick dot com. I'm over at Rosstucker

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Speaker 1: I do look at your tweets during the break. We're

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Speaker 1: live on Peacock Fox Sports Radio. And yes, I know

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Speaker 1: I always get the tweets like at midnight tonight. That's

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Speaker 1: a good point, man, like while I'm sleeping, which is awesome.

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Speaker 1: So go ahead and listen to the Rosstucker Football podcast

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Speaker 1: too while you're at it. Mike Renner from Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus joined us in fifteen minutes. Ed Marinaro, who was

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Speaker 1: one of the highlights in my mind, highlights not lowlights

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Speaker 1: former NFL running back, former Cornell running back and actor.

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Speaker 1: He was he gave out he would announced the Vikings

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Speaker 1: pick of Andrew Booth. It was amazing Howie Roseman, the

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Speaker 1: especially Thursday night getting Georgia nose tackled Jordan Davis and

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Speaker 1: then Darren Heitner at eleven twenty am Eastern. He's going

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Speaker 1: to talk about the huge college football news related to NIL.

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Speaker 1: So that's me. Every once in a while, I pronounced

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Speaker 1: Janis Jonas and so, what what do you think is

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Speaker 1: the most interesting today, Paulie? Is it the NBA essay

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Speaker 1: or is it still the draft in your mind? I

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Speaker 1: think people are still soaking in the draft. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to start there with you. You're are you both an

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Speaker 1: Eagles You would do some work for the Eagles. But

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Speaker 1: did you grew up an Eagles fan? So grew up

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Speaker 1: a huge Eagles fan. So today does it feel like

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Speaker 1: you did it all? You had a good draft, you

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Speaker 1: next year. It feels like the trifecta for at the Eagles. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans are really excited, and they should be because

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Every guy in the draft, they're a projection.

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Speaker 1: The Packers get a lot of criticism for not drafting

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Speaker 1: You know, I love the draft It's one of my

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Speaker 1: I get text messages from my buddies, like on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: how often did you watch Garrett Wilson? Well when they

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Speaker 1: uns It's a really interesting human dynamic, Yes, Marvin. I

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Speaker 1: So why would you take this guy out of ut Chattanooga.

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Speaker 1: fan of the people that say you can't do draft

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Speaker 1: grades for three years. Dude, how do you look at it?

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Speaker 1: Is it just the players they got? Is it the strategy?

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Speaker 1: Is it? You know, how well they did was what

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Speaker 1: they had to work with? How do you guys evaluate

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Speaker 1: over a pro football focus? Yes, it's what you had

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Speaker 1: to work with because we actually went You go back

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Speaker 1: and look at like draft grades and the teams that

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Speaker 1: had two first round picks, like no one gets lower

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Speaker 1: than a B plus in those It's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got they got a bunch of really good players,

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Speaker 1: Like of course they were going to they had two

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Speaker 1: first round picks. So for us, like we gave the

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Speaker 1: Giants a lower grade then probably I think we gave

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Speaker 1: them the lowest grade of anyone because five and seven

438
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Speaker 1: were always going to be good players. You know, like

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Speaker 1: five and seven were no brainer picks, So you can't

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Speaker 1: give them credit for that they had picks five and

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Speaker 1: seven because they sucked last year. So to me, the

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Speaker 1: draft grade has to be the decisions that went into

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Speaker 1: the picks. So if you know, if you didn't have

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Speaker 1: a top hundred pick, you could still get an A

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Speaker 1: if they were good decisions that you made. So that's

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Speaker 1: how we do our draft grades at PFF. It's such

447
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Speaker 1: a great point because I have not seen the Jets

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Speaker 1: get anything other than A plus anywhere. They had three

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Speaker 1: first round picks and four the first thirty six, Like

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they didn't get and they got name

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Speaker 1: guys that were ranked number one of their position, whatever,

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Speaker 1: if they didn't get good players and they should fail, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: And that's too much a draft analysis. You got to

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Speaker 1: actually dig into these picks. Okay. So then I was

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Speaker 1: saying this earlier. We just mentioned the tyrant Matthew news

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Speaker 1: with the New Orleans Saints. Looks like he's gonna sign there.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of what they had to work with,

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Speaker 1: do you take into account how much like the Saints

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Speaker 1: gave up to get Chris Olave, like the trade with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, then the trade with the Commanders, it's like

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Speaker 1: five or six picks for Chris Olava. Mike, Yes, we

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Speaker 1: definitely took that. That's all. We gave him a C plus,

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Speaker 1: which is probably one of the lower people out there

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Speaker 1: getting grades. But it was this year's for as round

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Speaker 1: pick two, third round picks this year, a fourth round

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Speaker 1: pick next year's for a round pick, and a twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four second round pick. That is what it costs

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Speaker 1: you for one Chris Olavit. And that's not even I

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Speaker 1: love Chris olave I think he's going to be a

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Speaker 1: great player and it's perfect for that offense. But there

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Speaker 1: are there have been safe quote unquote safe picks who

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Speaker 1: have not worked out in the NFL. So to be

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Speaker 1: the heat give up that much for one guy is

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Speaker 1: to me, you can't give that a good grade because

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Speaker 1: of so many opportunity costs missed. Is there a team

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Speaker 1: that we're not talking about that you really liked or

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Speaker 1: really didn't like. It seems like everybody's talking about the

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Speaker 1: same teams. Give me someone that you guys really liked

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Speaker 1: or really didn't like that maybe isn't getting as much attention.

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Speaker 1: That's good. I really like the Cowboys draft. I don't

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Speaker 1: think a lot of people have really loved it. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones had to go out and show his draft

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Speaker 1: board to justify their first round. But I think they

484
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Speaker 1: got three starters at three very valuable positions at tackle,

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Speaker 1: edge rusher, and wide receiver with their first three pick,

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Speaker 1: and then they had one of the best day threes

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Speaker 1: of anyone. I think their fifth round picks all have

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Speaker 1: a role on this roster. And Damon Clark in the

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Speaker 1: fifth round, he's obviously I'm gonna play as a rookie

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Speaker 1: the next feason surgery. But if he doesn't have that,

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Speaker 1: if you can just you know, throw that first year

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Speaker 1: out of the season, which you do for a lot

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Speaker 1: of rookies. Anyways, he's a top you know, seventy player

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Speaker 1: in this class at the linebacker position that they got

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Speaker 1: one one seventy six. So I think the Cowboys had

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Speaker 1: a very underrated, least good draft. Mister, talking with Mike Renner.

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Speaker 1: He's the lead draft analyst for Pro Football Focus and

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Speaker 1: co host of Tailgate, which sounds amazing, sounds like a

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Speaker 1: show I should be on. Speaking of beer and food,

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Speaker 1: Let's get into some of these quarterbacks, because I'm really curious, Mike,

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Speaker 1: how much work you do work in the off season, right,

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Speaker 1: like you evaluate the kids coming into the year. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people I really respect had a first round

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Speaker 1: grade on Sam Howe coming into the year. He went

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Speaker 1: in the fifth round. Mike wasn't injured. How does that happen?

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Speaker 1: How do you, guys, And maybe you're gonna tell me

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Speaker 1: you didn't, but how do you watch the video of

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Speaker 1: him in fresh sophomore year. Say he's a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: he plays a whole season, and then he's a fifth

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Speaker 1: round pick. How does that happen? Because it wasn't. He

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Speaker 1: didn't fall there because of this tape. Now the tape

512
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: wasn't good this year, but even still it was not

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Speaker 1: fifth round tape. He fell there because of his interviews

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Speaker 1: from all that I've heard, was not good on a whiteboard,

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Speaker 1: was not good with protections, blitz recognition, those sort of

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Speaker 1: things just did not impress anyone. And I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of these quarterbacks fell just because there weren't a

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Speaker 1: lot of landing spots. You know, there weren't many teams. Really,

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Speaker 1: if you're drafting a guy with a top fifty pick,

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Speaker 1: you're putting him in that start a conversation or at

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Speaker 1: least to challenge your starter, and no one was really

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Speaker 1: willing to do that. And so when you have a

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Speaker 1: guy who's as far behind the learning curve as Sam

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Speaker 1: Holle was reportedly from what I've heard, I just think

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Speaker 1: teams were willing to go elsewhere. Even though that the

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Speaker 1: sophomore tape was great, like it was first round tape

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Speaker 1: and that was you know, none of these other guys

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Speaker 1: are putting up near what he did as a true

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Speaker 1: sophomore and North Carolina. So I still was a fan

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Speaker 1: of his. I would have taken him before, you know,

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Speaker 1: any of those guys. A lot of those guys that

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Speaker 1: went in the third round to where I think the

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Speaker 1: Washington commanders where they got him have to be really

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Speaker 1: really happy. That's really interesting, Mike. I had not heard

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Speaker 1: that about Sam Howe on the interview process. I did

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Speaker 1: see some reports of some concerns about erratic behavior from

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Speaker 1: Matt Corrall. I think Ian Rappaport said that during the draft,

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Speaker 1: what about Malik Willis? I mean, you know, these are

539
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Speaker 1: the times where I almost feel like Mike, we're being

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Speaker 1: lied to. I mean, so many people said, oh, the talent,

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Speaker 1: the upside, you know, top ten pick, top twenty pick,

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't go till the third round? Was he

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00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: was that a team meeting thing as well? Or were

544
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: we lied to? Like? How does that happen? That one

545
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: is the one I can't explain. I think he's he

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00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: is talent, Like there's there's no doubt about it. You

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00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: flip on his tape for five plays and you'll see

548
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: a canon of an arm. You'll see elite rushing ability.

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00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: He's probably the second best runner at the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. And the biggest thing with him, though,

551
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: is the learning curve is just literally the offense he

552
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: played in is not going to have anything to do

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00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: with the offense he plays in the NFL. Just nothing

554
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: similar whatsoever. They're at liberty, So the learning curve, so

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Speaker 1: if you're taking them high, you're probably waiting two to

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Speaker 1: three years for him to even see the football field.

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Speaker 1: And then the offense he's going to have to run.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like Jalen Hurts in that manner, who

559
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: you know is going to be able to hit the

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00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: field quickly despite maybe having limited physical tools, who's also

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Speaker 1: you know, a runner at the position. But then once

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Speaker 1: he does hit the league, once he does start, the

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Speaker 1: offense he's going to run is going to look like

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple offenses around the NFL. It's gonna look

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Speaker 1: like what the Ravens do with Lamar Jackson. Because if

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Speaker 1: you're not taking advantage of that, you're doing it wrong.

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00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: He can't just come in and say you're you know,

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Speaker 1: it's even the Titans where he went and do the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing you're gonna do with Ryan Tannehill. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to be unique to him, and not a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams are willing to do that for a backup,

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Speaker 1: have a special package of plays, have a special offense

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Speaker 1: just for their backup to come in. So I think

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Speaker 1: that was the biggest. If I'm gonna pinpoint any reason

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Speaker 1: he fell, it would be that Mike last one. What

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Speaker 1: about the twenty twenty three draft because I saw where

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Speaker 1: you just dropped your mock draft, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: some people get real upset about. I love it. I

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00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: think it's amazing as me, but you can't do It's

580
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: way too early. It ruins kids dreams, it ruins everything.

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Speaker 1: Like again, another person I don't want to invite to

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Speaker 1: my beer punk tournament ever is that person. But you

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Speaker 1: just released your twenty twenty three mock draft, which is

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Speaker 1: obviously very early. Who stands out to you? What stands

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Speaker 1: out to you about the draft in general? And then

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Speaker 1: what quarterbacks? Are you pretty confident we'll going round one? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I hate the people that think I'm hyping these guys

588
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Speaker 1: up too much by put him in the first round.

589
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Speaker 1: Is if like all these guys haven't had their ego stroke,

590
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: haven't been five stars their ego strokes that they're like

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00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: sixteen years old. I think I think they've had enough

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Speaker 1: by now that one more mock draft isn't going to

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Speaker 1: push them over the edge. But I will say the

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Speaker 1: quarterback flass is better next year, and I think that

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Speaker 1: played a factor in a lot of these runs, whether

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Speaker 1: it was the Seahawks passing on quarterback where there was

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Speaker 1: the Falcons waiting till the third round, the Lions, like

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Speaker 1: some of these teams that were should have everyone thought

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00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: would be in the mix. I think next year is

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Speaker 1: going to be the year they go up and get

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Speaker 1: their quarterbacks because you know, with multiple first round or

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Speaker 1: some of those teams have the firepower to go up

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Speaker 1: and get one. So it's a good quarterback class. And

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Speaker 1: I really like this defensive tackle class. After some week

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Speaker 1: DT class is the last two years. We got some

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Speaker 1: studs coming in twenty three. Jalen Carter from Georgia, highest

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Speaker 1: pass rushing great of any Georgia defender last year at

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Speaker 1: John Carter loaded line that just saw what we see.

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Speaker 1: Three guys go drafted first round from that defensive line

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Speaker 1: best ones still at Georgia right now, and a guy

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00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: named Jacklin Roy at LSU defensive tackle, Like there is

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Speaker 1: some defensive tackle talent that is much needed in the

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Speaker 1: NIF all day check him out. Pro Football Focus lead

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Speaker 1: Draft analysts co host a tailgate Mike Runner. Mike, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for the time for sure, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me Ross. That was a groundbreaking interview discussing whether or

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Speaker 1: Play of the day, play this is the play on

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Speaker 1: the day, check this house or on that elbow a

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Speaker 1: couple of sidesteps, throws the ball awful window to him

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Speaker 1: suff and slams it down with a two hand. That

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Speaker 1: was a big boy play. From a very point, that

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Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean, that's exactly the stuff I used

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Speaker 1: to do on the mini net, like in sixth grade,

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Speaker 1: seventh grade? Was there anything more fun than the mini

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Speaker 1: dunker when you were like twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old? Incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yanis throws an alley youop dunk off the backboard to

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Speaker 1: zero in the second round of the playoffs. Second career

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Speaker 1: playoff triple double twenty four points, thirteen rebounds, twelve assists.

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Speaker 1: That was courtesy, of course, of the Bucks radio network.

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Speaker 1: So fun to watch that guy play basketball, and it

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Speaker 1: was also sort of hilarious to watch the Celtics have

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Speaker 1: a team play defense against them. The Celtics like, what

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Speaker 1: do you what are you guys doing, like you're supposed

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Speaker 1: all right, I want to get to some of the

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Speaker 1: best and worst of the weekend. But I also there's

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Speaker 1: two things we need to discuss real quick. Number One,

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about Mike Renner's sweatshirt. Number Two,

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Speaker 1: I gave Fritzie a gift on Peacock during the break,

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Speaker 1: Sure I did. And actually I gave Fritzie a gift

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Speaker 1: to give to his wife from my front page story

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Speaker 1: dot com. Here's my question. It's, by the way, it's

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Speaker 1: the best Mother's Day gift ever. People that are watching

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Speaker 1: up Peacock you can see it. But does Fritzie get

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Speaker 1: credit for giving that to his wife? Now? Like if

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Speaker 1: if his wife watches or listens to the show and

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Speaker 1: knows that I got Fritzie this gift from my front

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Speaker 1: page story dot com, which is incredible, does it totally

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Speaker 1: defeat the purpose? Like? Did I just ruin it for him?

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping she's not going to catch this portion of

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Speaker 1: the program. You don't think so, you don't think now

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Speaker 1: that we're literally talking about it on the show, you

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Speaker 1: don't think somehow it'll get back to her because somehow

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Speaker 1: social media. I guess she may see a post or

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Speaker 1: something like that, but it's as far as hearing it life.

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Speaker 1: She's a teacher, so she's in class all day. The

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Speaker 1: only time she'll catch the show as if she's off

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Speaker 1: or she's you know, running errands, or maybe she'll listen

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Speaker 1: to it later if I tell her to watch a

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Speaker 1: certain segment or listen to a certain But do you

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Speaker 1: get PAULI, do you get credit for that? Or do

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Speaker 1: you not get credit for that? Because she knows that

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Speaker 1: I gave it to him partial credit. In the past,

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Speaker 1: we've had Seaton correct. We've had multiple flower sponsors on

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Speaker 1: this show before, which is great. We've had different flower parts,

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Speaker 1: and occasionally we've gotten a bouquet of flowers for our

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Speaker 1: wives for Mother's Day on the on the arm from

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Speaker 1: the company. My wife was aware that I didn't pay

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Speaker 1: for the flowers because they were from a sponsor, so

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Speaker 1: I couldn't stop there. I would also have to get

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Speaker 1: her a gift I got. I get zero credit for that.

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Speaker 1: You get a partial credit, No, I get zero. I get.

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Speaker 1: I get them every Valentine's Day, every Mother's Day. I

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Speaker 1: give him my wife and it might as well be

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Speaker 1: worthless to her because she knows, I'm just getting it

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Speaker 1: sent by the sponsor. Seton. No, it's exactly right. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: these are nice, So where's the Mother's Day stuff? Yet?

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Speaker 1: You know what I do now with the sponsor. I

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Speaker 1: don't let them send it to me. I give him

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Speaker 1: like my mom's address, or my mother because my mom

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Speaker 1: has no clue, or I give my mother in law's address.

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, these are so nice, You're so thoughtful. Yes,

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Speaker 1: one year I thought that taking the wife out to

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Speaker 1: brunch on Mother's Day would have been the gift, and

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Speaker 1: I was painfully wrong. That is that is part of

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Speaker 1: the day. The day is taking her out to lunch, dinner,

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Speaker 1: whatever it maybe. Oh oh my god, that doesn't count

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Speaker 1: as the gift. It counts right, it doesn't. That's just

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Speaker 1: like expected. Yes, I made the mistake of a big,

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Speaker 1: nice dinner was the gift, and I took a beating

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Speaker 1: that one. I want to get to. Somebody tweeted me

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Speaker 1: at Ross Tucker NFL and said, I never take calls

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Speaker 1: when I'm on, so take this tweeter. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: get to Al in Saint Pete for his best and

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Speaker 1: worst the weekend, Al, what's your best and worst the

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Speaker 1: weekend morning ross that's to the weekend was getting to

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Speaker 1: cheer on my mother and the rest of the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Try sisters as they competed in the Saint Anthony's Triathlon

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Speaker 1: here in Saint Pete. Wow, my worst of the weekend

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Speaker 1: was going to be about balls and strikes in the

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Speaker 1: inconsistent calling, but you supplanted that with your breaking news

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Speaker 1: letting me know that the Falcons will not have to

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Speaker 1: space the honey Badger at least twice a year. You

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Speaker 1: ruined my home Monday. Oh my bad, al, that's not

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Speaker 1: my fault. Thanks for the call. That's the Saints doing that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know. I mean, is that

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Speaker 1: really your best of the weekend? If your mom is

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Speaker 1: doing triathlons, that's got you gotta look yourself in the mirror.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my mom does triathlons, Like I would feel

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Speaker 1: like such a slacker if my mom was out there

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Speaker 1: doing triathlons, that's amazing. We didn't really get into the

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Speaker 1: splint the paint splattered sweatshirt. Yeah, you could find them

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Speaker 1: a few different places. They look like look like you

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Speaker 1: have a dark blue hoodie and you worked as a painter.

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Speaker 1: For a few days and you got white specks all

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Speaker 1: over it. Anywhere from fifty to one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: dollars for that product. So I you know what I wish.

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Speaker 1: I wish I knew Mike was wearing that before we

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Speaker 1: came on, because I would have guaranteed that seton thought

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Speaker 1: it was cool, Marvin will think it's cool. Paulie could

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Speaker 1: go either way. Fritzie will not be into it. Fritzie,

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Speaker 1: Fritzie will not be into that. Look is that? Initially

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Speaker 1: thought it was cool? But then I was like, did

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Speaker 1: he get a tech by a bunch of birds? Was

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Speaker 1: the first thing to pop into my mind. Not so

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00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: much paint that he was just hanging out and just

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Speaker 1: he was just in a bad spot. Many times, it's

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Speaker 1: like buying jeans that already have the holes in them,

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Speaker 1: and that's been very, very popular past decade. It still is, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Why I have never in my life is that that's

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Speaker 1: just for girls? Right? Or do guy do that too? No? No?

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Speaker 1: Is that why I have never in my life done that.

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Speaker 1: I've never bought holes with jeans with holes in it? Yes, Seaton, Well,

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Speaker 1: we threw up the poll question distressed clothing, yes or

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Speaker 1: no right now, seventy three percent of the audience say

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Speaker 1: no distress clothing, yeah yes or no, yeah yeah yeah yeah?

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Speaker 1: Are you in on the ripped jeans and the paint

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Speaker 1: splattered shirt like that's pre done in the thing. I

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Speaker 1: can already hear my dad, right now, you just paid

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Speaker 1: how much for jeans with holes in? You? Just you

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Speaker 1: just paid for us sweatshirt with paint stains on it? Like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: the older you are, I think, the less you would

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Speaker 1: understand that, Marv. And now I was raisoned by my

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Speaker 1: grandmother who was the queen of like TJ Max and

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Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, I couldn't go and buy I'm wearing

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Speaker 1: Jordan's right now. I wouldn't even tell her how much

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Speaker 1: they cost because her head would explode. And God, forbide

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Speaker 1: a sweatshirt with jeans like Kanye West has a bunch

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Speaker 1: of you know, holes in shirts and all that with

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00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: is a fashion line. Don't even dare bring that up

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Speaker 1: because like, her head would explode. I was never allowed

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Speaker 1: to get the most expensive sneakers my parents. They always

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Speaker 1: let me get like the middle the middle one, PAULI,

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Speaker 1: we should start a business where like painters, construction workers, plumbers,

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Speaker 1: send us their old beat up work clothes and we

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Speaker 1: repackage them and market them like say this on the air,

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Speaker 1: like an army Navy store. Yeah, but like like a

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Speaker 1: thrift shop just for ripped and splatter dot com, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just have painters sending their old stuff and pay

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Speaker 1: them for them. Ripped in splattered dot com sounds so

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Speaker 1: much better than distressed. Like, you know, that's a good

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Speaker 1: I took a polling class seton I think if you

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Speaker 1: said ripped and splatter clothing, yes or no, I bet

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Speaker 1: you the results would be different. Distressed sounds really bad.

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Speaker 1: Ripped and splattered sounds like you could think my autobiography

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00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: at West Virginia ripped and splattered, right, No, you're that's amazing. So,

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Speaker 1: speaking of amazing, if you didn't hear Ed Marinaro during

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Speaker 1: the second round of the draft, you really missed out.

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Speaker 1: Ed will join us. Next hour, We're gonna dive into

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