1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: This is Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, trumping 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: Now your host, Newie Scrugs. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: Not Newie Scrugs, but welcome to the media Mash. This 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 4: is Nick Harris alongside Tommy RS Dallas Cowboys dot Com, 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: the Hall of Famer Edward. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: Guys, this is uh. 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: This has been a weird couple of days around here, 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 4: weird last week. I guess you could say it's our 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: first media Mash episode since the tragic news of Marshawn 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 4: Neeland passing away last Wednesday night and fellas I from 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 4: a reporter standpoint, it's it's it's kind of strange. And 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: I'm sure ed I mean, you've had a ton of 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: experience in this league, and I'm sure there's a couple 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: of things you can call back to, but at least 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: for me, this is my first time. Tommy, I'm sure 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: this is yours as well, covering something to this magnitude 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: as far as you know, addressing something that you know 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 4: is a bigger issue at the end of the day, 24 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: when it comes to when it comes to mental health, 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 4: when it comes to checking on those people that are 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: around you. 27 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: And you know, it's an interesting. 28 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: Spot to be in as a reporter because you have 29 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: these human elements of life that you have to go 30 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: through each and every day. And you know, I none 31 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: of us were necessarily close to marshaw Neland but we 32 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: see this guy in the locker room. We interview these guys, 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: and we see them on the field, and we write 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 4: and we talk and we listen to them, and when 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: one of them loses their life, and that kind of instance, 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: it kind of throws you out of your profession at times. 37 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 4: At least for me over the course of the last week, 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: it's kind of taken me out of my profession and 39 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 4: kind of made me ask, you know, the human element 40 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: to what we do is how much of it are 41 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: we actually you know, looking at from a day to 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: day basis. Is there something to the human element that 43 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: we could have done more for Marshawn Neland you know, 44 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: and I'm sure you know, we talked to these guys 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: in the locker room of the course of the last 46 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: hour or so, and those guys are going through unimaginable 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: bane and emotions right now and have to get back 48 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 4: up and play a game on Monday night. But at 49 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: the same time, you know, it's hard to be able 50 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: to grasp the heaviness of a loss like marshaw Nelan 51 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: in the way that he passed, especially when he was 52 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: so young. But she kind of want to open up 53 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: the floor here to start to show off with just 54 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: kind of your thoughts about the situation, and I guess 55 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: more so how our jobs kind of relate to it 56 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: on a day to day basis now moving forward. 57 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 5: I've been doing this since nineteen eighty two and I've 58 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 5: covered all kinds of different scenarios. I'm not sure I've 59 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 5: ever covered this exact one. And as I was listening 60 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 5: to Solomon Thomas speak, I actually got emotional myself. And 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 5: I don't really know marsha On Neelan that well, and 62 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 5: to some degree you get the sense that, well they 63 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 5: don't either, right, I mean, because you've got two guys 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 5: in Dak Prescott and Solomon Thomas, both of whom spoke 65 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: very eloquently today and care deeply about their teammates and 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 5: a real leadership presence in the locker room, and yet 67 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 5: somehow nobody saw this coming. I mean, this disease is 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 5: mental illness, is so insidious that it's undetectable, even when 69 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 5: people who have experienced it and have foundations designed to 70 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: prevent it and to manage it, never see it coming. 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: I don't know what to expect out of them on 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 5: Monday night, Like I think we saw a big shift 73 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 5: from Shadi yesterday to Shady today in public, in the 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 5: way he looked, in the way he addressed things. But 75 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: I have no idea what to expect. But I do 76 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 5: know that these are unique people, and their ability to 77 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: compartmentalize things and compete is extraordinary. The most extreme situation 78 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 5: I've seen in that regard that I would relate to 79 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: this was I covered the Kansas City Chiefs Carolina Panthers game, 80 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 5: which was played the day after Jevon Belcher, a linebacker 81 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: for the Chiefs, killed his girlfriend and then shot himself 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 5: in the head at Arrowhead Stadium outside the facility, in 83 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 5: front of the general manager Scott Pioli, the head coach 84 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 5: Romeo Crenell, and the defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs, and the 85 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 5: Chiefs did not even ask the NFL to postpone the 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: game they played the next day and they won. Like, 87 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 5: I don't know how you do that. So just one 88 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 5: more way. These guys amaze me. But it's just like 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: we really don't know these guys as much as we're 90 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 5: around them, as many times as we talk to them, 91 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: we really don't know who they are at their essence. 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you put it really well there, and 93 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 6: it's it's just difficult because it humanizes you so much 94 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 6: because you know, I think a lot of the times, 95 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 6: maybe sometimes we get lost in that these guys are 96 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 6: football players and all we can discuss is there, you know, 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: how do they play and things like that, And sometimes 98 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 6: folks get a little bit harsh in their criticism for players. 99 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 6: And you know, everybody's got a standard in the NFL 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 6: and you have to play up to that standard. If 101 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 6: you don't play up to it, and you get benched 102 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 6: in those kinds of things. But I think sometimes we 103 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 6: do forget the human element of things, or when somebody's 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 6: clamoring for for someone to lose their job or things 105 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 6: like that, that they can be difficult. And I'm not 106 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that any of that happened with Marshaw neelan, 107 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 6: But some of the narratives that can come out and 108 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 6: the way that conversations are had from an outside perspective 109 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 6: can be very toxic, and that's unfortunately the world we 110 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 6: live in today. So hopefully this is a moment where 111 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 6: people can realize that and maybe be more selective and 112 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 6: in ways that they criticize or ways that they speak 113 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 6: about things, because you know, Marshaw Kneeland's two years older 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 6: than me, and that our generation is so hooked on 115 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 6: social media, and you know, sometimes you feel like you 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 6: struggle with what other people think about you and the 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 6: outside perspective of you, and you want to make sure 118 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 6: you're seeing in a positive light, and it's difficult to 119 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 6: manage all those things and be in a good spot mentally. 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 7: And so you know ed you were saying. 121 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 6: That it's kind of undetectable sometimes in terms of if 122 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 6: people are struggling with mental health, then I think the 123 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 6: one of the only ways that you can try to 124 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 6: counteract that is just by being a good person and 125 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 6: everybody that you come across. It's very easy to you know, 126 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 6: I think be kind to those around you, and when 127 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 6: you're with your loved ones, ask how they're doing. And 128 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 6: I think Brian Shanheimer and a lot of guys brought 129 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 6: up good points of just diving deeper than hey, what's 130 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 6: going on? 131 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 7: How are you? Or Hey, what's up? How you doing? 132 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 7: And no, really how how are you? How are you feeling? Uh? 133 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 7: Is everything okay? Yeah? What are you feeling? What are 134 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 7: you feeling? 135 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 6: And things like that, and so I think those are 136 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 6: those are good points, and it really does bring everything 137 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 6: into perspective and and it you know, it's it's really 138 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 6: never going to be the same. 139 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 7: I don't think. 140 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ed you mentioned a point about you know all 141 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: these guys and and osaid to Gizuo and Donovan Azarakhu. 142 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: They also talked today about you know, their relationship with Marshawn, 143 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: and you never really know anybody, right, It's not just 144 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: you know this situation with Marshaan. It kind of makes 145 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: you sit back and think about your own personal life 146 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: and you know, do I know this person? Do I 147 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: know my mother? Do I know my spouse? Do I 148 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: know my child? You know, and it makes you have 149 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: hard conversations. I had a hard conversation with my girlfriend 150 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: last week. I was like, look, this might be weird 151 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: or off putting. But if you ever need anybody, you 152 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: could talk to me, you know. And I hope that 153 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: this situation kind of if there's any good that can 154 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: come out of it, I hope that it allows people 155 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: to have these conversations more with their loved ones, with 156 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: people that are in their life every day. 157 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: Shoot, it could be. 158 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: Co workers, you know, it just being like, hey, if 159 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: you need a shoulder, I got two of them. So 160 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: I hope that this death is not in vain because 161 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: of that situation, because of the conversations that it can 162 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: allow moving forward, and if it saves even one life 163 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: moving forward, then then Marshan's death. 164 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: Is certainly not in vain. I think you might be 165 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: on mute ed. 166 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 7: I don't do it. 167 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: Can you hear him? 168 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: Be? 169 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: He's not coming through from me. We got Beam on 170 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: the task, we got Beam on the tax. 171 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 5: Did you sure me before? The challenge? The unique challenge 172 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: here with this is like the ethos that exists in 173 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 5: pro football and in pro sports, and especially in male 174 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: pro sports. Right you're not allowed to show pain vulnerability. 175 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 5: I mean, we've just gotten to the point in the 176 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 5: NFL where guys admit that they might have concussion symptoms. 177 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 5: And should be checked and maybe pulled from a game 178 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 5: and possibly withheld the next week, like used to just 179 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: play through it, right, So that's progress and maybe this 180 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: kind of thing will lead to progress too, because like, 181 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 5: who could have who could have seen this coming? I 182 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: mean this, this is a young player who was totally engaged, 183 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: was having success. First game of the year, gets his 184 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 5: first sack, scores a touchdown the other night. Most guys 185 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 5: play their whole careers on defense and never score a touchdown. 186 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 5: He scores a touch He's going to have a child, Like, 187 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 5: you know, just how could how could this happen? And 188 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 5: nobody see it coming? 189 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, the child part, it's it's tough to think about 190 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: that part that that's what gets me most emotional is 191 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: that he has someone on the way that is going 192 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: to carry on his bloodline. But credit to all the 193 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: Cowboys staff, organization players. They are all rallying around his girlfriend, 194 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 4: Catalina and his family up in Grand Rappin's, Michigan. 195 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: And the public can participate in that. 196 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: The public can participate in that by donating to the 197 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: Marshawn Neland Memorial Fund and you know, making sure that 198 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 4: his family is set for life as as Brian Schottenheimer 199 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 4: put it yesterday, But yeah, it's it's there. We we 200 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: cover a a dumb little game, and it makes you 201 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: kind of think about it sometimes when when situations like 202 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 4: this happen, and you know, this, this dumb little game. 203 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: It can be an escape for a lot of people. 204 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: But don't let it escape to the point to where 205 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: you know you're not checking in on the things in 206 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: life that you know you really do need to check 207 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: in on. Whether that's people watching his fans, us covering 208 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: it here every day, or whatever it may be. 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This team somehow has to 262 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: gather all of their emotions together and get ready to 263 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: play a game on Monday Night against the Las Vegas 264 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 4: Raiders on ESPN. It's gonna be a fun one, and man, 265 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: there are so many storylines in this game. Not only 266 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 4: have the Cowboys added two editions in Quinn Williams and 267 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: Logan Wilson since the last time we talked on this podcast. 268 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 4: But Marvin Overshowon is going to be making his season 269 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: debut expected Savone Revel, the third round rookie corner out 270 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: of East Carolina, expected to make his NFL debut in 271 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: this game. Brian Schottenheimer is going up against his former 272 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: mentor and Pete Carroll. So many things that are fun 273 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 4: about this game. Obviously at the front of the mind 274 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: is the Marshawn Neeland situation, but you know, talking about 275 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: the game specifically with Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson, the 276 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: Logan Wilson trade did not surprise me last week. The 277 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: Quinn Williams one did, especially when you factor in how 278 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: much that they gave up to go get him. They 279 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: spent a first round pick, the higher of their first 280 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 4: round picks in twenty twenty seven, a second round pick 281 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: in twenty six, and then Mazzie Smith got thrown in 282 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 4: there too. I think with Logan Wilson, the trade got 283 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: even better when they added Quinn Williams, But just overall 284 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: fell as your feelings on this trade and how much 285 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: that you think that they can impact this defense. 286 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 5: I think they're gonna have a significant impact on the defense. 287 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 5: We could be looking at five or six new starters 288 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 5: or returning starters when you consider Malie Hooker Donovan Wilson 289 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 5: who have been out coming back to play safety. I mean, 290 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, this defense looks a little different 291 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 5: up the middle right, And that to me is the 292 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 5: most shocking part of the Quinn Williams trade. Like, the 293 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 5: Cowboys have been fascinated by him for a while, They've 294 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: been had interest in him for a long time, even 295 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 5: beyond Jerry calling up when he decided he was going 296 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: to entertain Marsha or trades for Michael Parsons, and he 297 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: called the Jets and asked about Quentin and Williams. But 298 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: I just can't believe how much most teams in the 299 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:14,119 Speaker 5: NFL value peripheral players and edge players and the speed positions, 300 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 5: and what the Cowboys have invested in the interior offensive 301 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 5: line and the interior defensive line. I mean, their biggest 302 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 5: offseason signing was Osa o'digie Zua, their starting defensive tackle. 303 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 5: They get one player back in the Michael Parsons straight 304 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 5: and it's Kenny Clark defensive tackle, and they go out 305 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: and make a big trade and it's Quentin and Williams 306 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 5: another defensive tackle. They have three defensive tackles, the only 307 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: team in football with three defensive tackles making twenty million 308 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 5: dollars a year. So if they can't stop the run, 309 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: now I think it's safe to say, Jerry give up 310 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: on stopping the run. 311 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it might go bigger than the team itself. There's 312 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: something spiritual there. 313 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 7: You'd get a hacks or something. 314 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 6: No, But you know I've said a lot on these 315 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: shows is that football is a line of scrimmage game 316 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 6: where it's won and lost, And so I see why 317 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 6: they're making the investment there. Can you keep guys, three 318 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 6: guys that are twenty million plus on the interior defensive line. 319 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 6: That's a conversation probably for later. I think if they 320 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 6: play well, you would certainly want to right and naturally, 321 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 6: if if that is what the solution is to stopping 322 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 6: the run, then you could probably expect that's what it's 323 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 6: going to happen. But I think with Quinn Williams especially, 324 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 6: he makes Logan Wilson's job so much easier because he 325 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 6: takes up so much attention on the interior of those 326 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 6: offensive lines, you can draw double teams. He has the 327 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 6: most pressures against double team since twenty twenty two in 328 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 6: the NFL, And that makes it easier for OsO Diggi 329 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 6: Zua and Kenny Clark and Donovanzaaku and Jadevian Clowney and 330 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 6: Logan Wilson the linebackers to either be one on one 331 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 6: or kind of have the gaps opened up right in 332 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 6: front of them, because it's going to be a lot 333 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 6: easier to fill if he's taking up two spots. What 334 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 6: I'm interested to see we've talked so much about five 335 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 6: down fronts and things like that. 336 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 7: Okay, how much are we actually going to see it? 337 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 6: Because you don't want to make a mid season entire 338 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 6: defensive schematic change. But on first and second down? Is 339 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 6: that something we see a lot more of going through 340 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 6: the rest of the year because you've got those guys 341 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 6: and try to limit it and make it second, long, 342 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 6: third and long, so then you can you know, maybe 343 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 6: pin your ears back and maybe cover somebody yea, or 344 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 6: drop eight and hope that somebody is in the right spot. 345 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 6: Play played double, play double quarters and see if you 346 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 6: can make that word. 347 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 7: What would double quarters eight cover? 348 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 349 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: I think with this Quinn Williams edition, I'm taking some 350 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: stats from your Twitter here, Tommy. Twenty four run stops 351 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: in the NFL this year. That is tied for first 352 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: among defensive tackles. Fourteen run stuffs, which basically qualifies as 353 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: getting in the way of the gap, Tied for first 354 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: in the NFL. He's done that with a forty one 355 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: double team rate. And that is kind of what I 356 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: want to dive into here, is that nobody in the 357 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: NFL has been double teamed as much as Quinn Williams 358 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: has in the defensive interior since twenty TI twenty two. 359 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: Second on that list is also the Jizula. 360 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: And when you have two guys that command that much 361 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 4: attention in your defensive interior, it's only going to open 362 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: up things for these edges. Now these edges, it's Donovan Azeraku, 363 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 4: Jadavian Clowney, Dante Fowler. This is their chance to really 364 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: pounce at the quarterback, not only as are their jobs 365 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: on a spotlight over the course of the next eight weeks. 366 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: Let's about Donovan Azeraku because he's really shined here in 367 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: the last few weeks. 368 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: So is Matty Reflus. 369 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 4: He has his pieces now he has the Quentyn Williams 370 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 4: Nice has the local nice. 371 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: Eight weeks into the season, right here you go, here's 372 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 5: your defense. 373 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: Exactly, and there's there was a lot of That's a 374 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 4: good pointed because there was a lot of I think 375 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: leeway you could give you refluse because you plan to 376 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: have Michael Parsons on your damn defense and then you 377 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: don't have Michael Parsons and you find out five days 378 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: before the season starts or whatever it is. You do 379 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: have to give him grace in that situation. However, now 380 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: that he's had these nine games to figure out what 381 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 4: he does have in the tank, and he adds these 382 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: two valuable pieces to the defense that they do have, 383 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: and they're getting to Marvin overshrown back, you expect something 384 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: out of Revel. If they are still in the bottom 385 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 4: ten of the NFL the rest of the way, you 386 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: can't justify keeping them. 387 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 5: The problem is is like they've already wasted the easy 388 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: part of their schedule. 389 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: They have and that is the tough part. 390 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 5: Like and look where they are, they're three five and one. 391 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: When they finally have personnel that they want on defense, 392 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 5: whether the returning from injury or they've acquired them from 393 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 5: other teams. Like remember Mike McCarthy complaining about not having 394 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 5: everybody together in April for the start of the off 395 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 5: season program. We're in November and they still are putting 396 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 5: things together. I guess to somewhat their credit, right that 397 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: they did. We're still aggressive and WOU got good players 398 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 5: who are going to be here beyond this year, Like 399 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 5: it would have been foolish to just invest in this year. 400 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 5: They're beyond that point. But they are going to face 401 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 5: increasingly difficult competition. I mean, some of the best offensive 402 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 5: teams in football are on their schedule in the after 403 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: this game, the next three opponents. 404 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: Right, They're not late for twenty twenty five, they're early 405 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: for twenty twenty. 406 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 5: But I thought it was interesting we're talking about fits 407 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 5: and you, I guess you kind of suggested that if 408 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 5: they don't play better on defense, they might have to 409 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 5: make another coordinator change the fourth and four years. But 410 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting that Jerry, the one thing 411 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 5: he acknowledged after the Arizona loss that he took responsibility 412 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 5: for was underestimating the importance of continuity on the defensive 413 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 5: side of the ball with the coaching staff. That he 414 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 5: should have known better than to expect, you know, having 415 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: three coordinators in three years creating success for a defense. 416 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 5: So I'd be surprised if he made a change, especially 417 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 5: since he's the one who really hired Eberflus to begin with. 418 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: That is only the only justification point though, Like, let's 419 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: say that they finished as the thirtieth ranked defense. 420 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: Right now they're thirty one. Let's say that they finished thirtieth. 421 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: What's the justification other than we can't do four coordinators 422 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: in four years. That's going to be too much. I 423 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: don't know if there's any other justifications. 424 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 5: But wasn't it weird that even today, when Shody was 425 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 5: asked to assess ravel, the first thing he says, great, 426 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 5: press corner. Why are you drafting a press corner when 427 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 5: your coordinator doesn't play that? 428 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: I did think about that. I didn't think about that. 429 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 6: It's a good point, and I wonder how much of 430 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 6: it is a one side asking the other to adapt, 431 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 6: not that that is the solution by any means, because 432 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 6: I don't think you can go to media reflace. We 433 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 6: were talking about five man fronts to be like, all right, 434 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 6: I know you've been a four to three guy for 435 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 6: forty years time to switch it up to a three 436 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 6: to four poual let's go, And that's just unfair. But 437 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 6: at the same time, you've got Trayvon Diggs Deron playing 438 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 6: Simone Revel who are man corners and they've been that 439 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 6: for most of their careers, and sir, you have to 440 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 6: play zone at some point at the cornerback position without 441 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 6: a shadow of a doubt. But when we started the 442 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 6: year and it was what was the Philly game, is 443 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 6: like all but one snap was in zone and it's 444 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 6: like what. 445 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 5: They're playing ninety percent zone into the last two or 446 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 5: three games. 447 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 6: That's just I don't think that's sustainable. And so then. 448 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 5: Why did you hire that coordinator who coaches that scheme? 449 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 5: And he was here for seven years, so you should 450 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 5: have had some sense that that's what he wants to do. 451 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 7: That is a great question, as unfortunately I can't answer it. 452 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: But do you think it's more benevolence or stubbornness. Do 453 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: you think it's benevolence in the sense of like they 454 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 4: they didn't put that two and two together, or stubbornness 455 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: and being like, Eh, this is our guy, this is 456 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: gonna work. 457 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is our guy. And we'll fit our person 458 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 5: Our personnel is adaptable enough to play that style of 459 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 5: defense should we choose to do that, And we can 460 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 5: probably talk him into playing some more man. I mean, 461 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: our two corners have been pretty prolific playing man coverage 462 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 5: and taking the ball away and scoring with it and 463 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: all of those things. Surely he can incorporate some of 464 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 5: that into what he does. Why would he not want that. 465 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 5: We're gonna take our final break when we come back. 466 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: Dak Prescott is knocking on the door of a very 467 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: very Oh I thought you mentioned milestone. 468 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 4: I mean, we got a next come on back. He's 469 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 4: knocking on the door of a very impressive milestone. 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This is Tommy yarsh 528 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: Ed Werder. I am Nick Harris Ed. You got a 529 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: favorite Vegas spot? 530 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 5: A favorite Vegas spot? 531 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a dinner spot or anything like. You go 532 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: to Vegas. I have to go there. 533 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 7: The MGM not really. 534 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 5: Emmett has a place there. 535 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 3: He does, he does. 536 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 5: That's a new place. 537 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: I think it's there. 538 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 5: I was just there in February to see the Eagles 539 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 5: at the Sphere and. 540 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think it has since. 541 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll just take a Capital grill if youre in 542 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 5: the world, so I've. 543 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: Done the Capitol grill. You a big Vegas guys. 544 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 5: I've never been my first time, so well, you can't 545 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 5: make sure you hit six gus. 546 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 7: I can't do anything. 547 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna right find to find the nearest 548 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 6: good restaurant. And Gordon Ramsey's down there, right, I think 549 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 6: that's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I would imagine, I. 550 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 3: Would imagine so the show. The show makes it seem 551 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 3: like does. 552 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 6: He like yell at you when you get your food? 553 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 6: It's like Dick's AI holograph of like that comes up. 554 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: To Dak Prescott is four hundred and forty seven yards 555 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 4: away from becoming the Cowboys all time leading passer. 556 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: It's it's kind of crazy. 557 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 4: Of all the storylines that we have gone through this year, 558 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: this one's kind of sneaking up on us. And the 559 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 4: way he's been on pace, it looks like he could 560 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 4: break it against the Eagles here in a couple of weeks. 561 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: But when you look at the first team offense over 562 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 4: the course of the last two games against the Broncos 563 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: and against the Cardinals, the first team offense is averaged 564 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 4: thirteen and a half points per game in those two games. 565 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: Considering how they played up until that point, that is 566 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 4: very uncharacteristic of where this Schottenheimer offense was heading. Asked 567 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer today about the bye week changes and you 568 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 4: know how you can go about instilling them going forward, 569 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: and he said that they were able to watch the 570 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: film and the film was very valuable as far as 571 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: what they're doing right and what they were continuing to 572 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: do that they are just not doing well and so 573 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: they're going to take it out of the playbook and 574 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: things of that sort. 575 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: And this offense. 576 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 4: What did you see in those last two weeks that 577 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 4: really started to hurt things was that the way these 578 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: games just kind of went. That's the thing I kind 579 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 4: of point to. These games kind of got out of control. 580 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 4: But also, if you have a number one offense, your 581 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: offense should be able to get you back in games. 582 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: That can't be the only excuse. 583 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 5: Especially at home like in Denver, they're playing one of 584 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: the best defenses in all of football the last two years. 585 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 5: The thing that really stuck out to me, and I 586 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: think this is alarming. I just saw this ESPN research 587 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 5: stat says Dak Prescott has been hit while running or 588 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: throwing twenty nine times in the last two games. That's 589 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 5: tied for the most plays he's been contacted in a 590 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 5: two game span in his NFL career. That's over ten years. Wow, 591 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 5: He's never He's only been hit like this one other 592 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 5: time over a two week span in his entire career. 593 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 5: He's been hit on thirty one percent of his dropbacks 594 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 5: from weeks eight and nine third highest rate in the NFL, 595 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: behind Justin Herbert and Patrick Mahomes. 596 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: I will add to that. 597 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: Coming out of the press conference today, Brian Scheinheimer was 598 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: asked is there an open competition at right tackle? 599 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: He said, yes, so I think he's fascinating. 600 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 5: Well, what does that mean for Monday Night? 601 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 3: It does like if you're going to change change Yeah. 602 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, like if you're gonna sit there and you're gonna 603 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: eliminate plays that don't work and you're gonna emphasize plays 604 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 5: that do work, which is smart. If there's a guy 605 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 5: who in the first half of the season isn't playing well, 606 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 5: isn't it time? 607 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 608 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: And the thing about having an open competition at right tackle, though, 609 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: is you worked in Nate Thomas against the Cardinals and 610 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 4: he had five pressures and I think twenty four snaps 611 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: or whatever it was. He was bad too, So I 612 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: don't know how you can have a competition between a 613 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: veteran who has not been playing at his highest point 614 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 4: over the course of the last couple of years, no doubt, 615 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 4: but our young guy who has not really shown anything either. 616 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 5: I guess you're projecting what the guy who doesn't have 617 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 5: a lot of experience can be with games under his. 618 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 6: Belt, right, And at this point you're asking yourself the 619 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 6: question if that's the case, if we're projecting, do we 620 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 6: just project that he can be good enough and run 621 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 6: him out there and see how he does. Is if 622 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 6: you're flip flopping back and forth, then like Ed was 623 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 6: talking about that, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't really 624 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 6: help you much. So you know, I think this this 625 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 6: week of practice is going to be interesting to see. 626 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 6: I mean, we won't see it obviously, but it's going 627 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 6: to be pretty telling for this coaching staff. Terrence Steel 628 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 6: has been a good run blocker for a majority of 629 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 6: his career, but he's really struggling in pass protection, and 630 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 6: you got Max Crosby coming up, and really for either 631 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 6: one of those guys, like nobody really matches up very 632 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 6: well against Max Crosby unless you're one of the best 633 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 6: in the league. And even still, you're just even at 634 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 6: that point, and if you've got problems at right tackle, 635 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 6: that's going to get exposed and the Raiders defense is 636 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 6: going to attack that right side no matter what. So 637 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 6: I think you kind of have to be definitive and 638 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 6: decisive in terms of what you want to do there 639 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 6: going forward. 640 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 4: I don't think Terrence Steel's been the biggest problem on 641 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 4: the offensive line all year. 642 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: It's been Geiden. 643 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: I have a little of Guiden to right tackle. 644 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe, I mean that is where he played in college, 645 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: and maybe you have a little bit more comfortability with 646 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 4: Nathan Thomas at left tackle. But do you do that 647 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: in the middle of a season after you've been training 648 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: Tyler Guyton literally since he came in the door to 649 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 4: be the left tack. 650 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: You're three to five and one. Your quarterback's getting hit 651 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 5: at an alarming rate. You better do something. 652 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: He could be hit more. 653 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 5: I guess it only takes one worse. Don't even have 654 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 5: to get hit when you're thirty two, as we saw 655 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 5: last year. 656 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's tough. We're making this a short show. 657 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: A quick prediction tonight Patriots Jets. I'm not going to 658 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: ask you who's gonna win the game. I think we 659 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: all have a similar feelings about the winner of that game. 660 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: But does Manzi Smith get his first tackle as a 661 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: member of the Jets? 662 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: First tackle? 663 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: First tackle? He didn't get one left. 664 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: I'll give him a tackle give back, I'll get I'm 665 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 5: not sure about a sack tackle. 666 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 4: Are we giving him a sack. No, I'll give him 667 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: a sack. Smith gets his first sack to I. 668 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 5: Drake may does get sacked a lot. I'm the second 669 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 5: highest in the league. 670 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a strip sack on Drake maybe. 671 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 5: Oh, is he gonna pick it up in the score. 672 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: No, I'm not going that far, but we've already got 673 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: far off. Appreciate you guys for hopping in Cowboys Raiders 674 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: Monday night. We'll be back on Media Mash next week 675 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: with our typical line of guests here and host knew 676 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 4: He Struggs will be back in this chair so he 677 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: can take over from my horrendous performance. 678 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: I'd like to say that I have a new level 679 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 5: of respect, but I actually have respect. 680 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, Chris Beeban, new levels a week away. 681 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 4: Edward or Toby are some Dick Harris. We'll see 'all 682 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 4: next time. See 'all next week here on the Media Mash. 683 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 684 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.