WEBVTT - Publix Tailgate Show: FOX Sports analyst Brock Huard 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.360 With the call of today's game on Fox Sports analysts 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.160 Brock Heure joins us now and I think it's the 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.720 first time we've had you on our air because we 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:10.760 don't get a lot of Fox games and you're a 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:12.799 lot of times on college games. Brock, it's good to 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.200 see you. How are you. Yeah, I'm doing good, doing good. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:18.079 It's it's gonna be fun. This is probably one of 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.880 the more college environments for US because the booth is 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.599 way up high. It's not as big and company and 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.040 cozy as a number of these newer stadiums. It'll be 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.280 a blast watch. I think gonna be a very competitive 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.000 game too. You are normally on college football, right, You've 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:35.839 been with Fox for about a year or so, but 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.839 they've moved you over to NFL coverage, and you know 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:40.960 the adjustment of that for you. This has gotta be 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.240 a little different prep. I would think week to week, well, 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.680 you do the college games, and we were chatting off 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.320 the air. This is much easier than the college game. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.040 The b y u Utah game with forty two Polynesian 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.200 players and nine hundred vowels you don't necessarily find anymore 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.360 in the NFL, So the games are three hours or less, 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.720 right about ten possessions each sixty five plays. Frankly, you 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.000 know most of the players, and it's a huge advantage 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.640 for me a little a little bit like Matt Rule. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.560 I was talking to him about this last week in 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.000 the Carolina game. I mean, I know most of these 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.440 guys through college, right. I know how to pronounce Daria 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.440 because I had him in Wisconsin two or three times, 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.520 or Calebon chased on uh, you know. So it's familiar names, 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.760 a lot less of them on my board, a lot 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:34.200 easier to enunciate and pronunciate and um and the coaches, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.680 frankly to have been just terrific and transparent all the 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.280 way along. So it's been a blast. Brockward with Us 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.600 has the Call of the Game today on Fox Sports. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:44.839 One of those names that you know how to pronounce 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.800 is Gardner Minshew, the second Jaguars quarterback. You've done him 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.760 for a while. You're out in Seattle, of course on 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.720 radio and then covering the college games on Saturday and 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.480 now NFL on Sunday, so you've known Gardner for a 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.360 little bit. This is his year to prove that he 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.240 can be the guy in the NFL. But it's funny 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.440 because he probably shouldn't be in this position to begin with. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.640 He shouldn't even have played last year. Now he has 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.320 the opportunity. What have you made of his season so far? Yeah? 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.640 I talked to him a bunch on Friday when we 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.680 were out at the facility. First of all, he's two 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.840 and oh when I've done his games, so he was 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.119 excited about that and he knew that. Uh. Secondly, he's 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.200 a rental kug. He's not really from Wazoo. When you're 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.079 there seven months, you're not really People said, oh, you're 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.000 a husky, he's a cougar. I'm like, he's He basically 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.200 lived in a rental for seven months and made the 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.720 most of it in his eleven one season. Is absolutely 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.040 a character? Is you? And your audience knows having followed 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.480 in the last couple of years. You know, I said 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.800 to Gardener, I said, okay, when you're done playing and 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.160 we we know you want to coach, are you going 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.519 to install a air raid system? And you're said high 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.040 school or college or do you like this pro style stuff? 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.480 And he didn't even hesitate. He's like, are you kidding me? 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:01.080 I'm going air raid. We're throwing the rock spread it everywhere, 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.400 playing in space and simplifying. So to me, that's that's 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.920 the conversation, is how much can he grow. We've seen 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.079 Aaron Rodgers our crew twice this year, and frankly, it's unfair. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.520 What he's doing to defense is he's taken him apart 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.399 pre snap, He's taken him apart at the snap he's 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.200 with his cadence, he's taken him apart post snap. In 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.840 this day and age with very little stadium noise and 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.640 everything else. I mean, it's just Russell Wilson. I watch 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.040 up close back home as well. It's the same thing. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.200 And that's where Gardner, to me, is going to It's 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.920 not about his arm athleticism. I think he's a smart guy, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.680 but can he commands like you've got to do to 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.560 be an elite guy at this level down in down out, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.480 series in, series out, game in, game out. And you're right, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.080 this is his prove it season, even with a lot 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.720 of young people around him, and and and not nearly 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.360 the defense they've had here in the past. That's what 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.560 he's got to prove to this organization, to decision makers. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.440 Can he command the show at the line of scrimmage 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.280 consistently like the great guys do. And right now, that's 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.600 still I think to be fair work in progress. Yeah, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.600 how long does that process take to figure it out? 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.440 We know how long he's going to have to figure 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.040 it out. Can he do it in that amount of time? 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.560 He has to show significant steps, you know, I remember 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.880 Pete Carroll saying to me about Russell Wilson, it takes 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.040 four or five years for you to get your master's degree, 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:25.359 your true mastery of your system of what defenses are doing. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.000 So he's not gonna have four year master's degree here 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.760 in year number two and what his eighteenth start. But 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.000 what you've got to see is that command grow over 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.320 the course of the season, right, I mean, he's he's 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.120 his decision making touchdown, the interceptions very good. His accuracy 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.240 to me is just fine. But when you watch Aaron, 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.839 when you watch Mahomes, when you watch Russell, when you 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.400 watch those guys at the very very top and you 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.800 see Gollie, how did they change that protection? How did 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.280 they change that play? How did they keep the defense 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.760 on guessing at all times? How how did they constantly 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.880 get to the very best play against anything thrown their way? 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.440 That's what the very very elite do at this level 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.720 now in this day and age. And as I said, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.880 he's not going to get his master's degree, but he's 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.200 got to work towards it over the course of the season. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.240 And that's frankly what I'm excited to watch today against 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.440 the Detroit team that does a bunch of junk at 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.560 the line of scrimmage but ultimately plays a bunch of 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.359 man behind it. Can he take advantage of it? Not 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.159 for a series, not for a quarter, not for a half, 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.440 can you do it for sixty minutes? Because this team 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.760 will need him to brock Heward with us from Fox Sports. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.120 Balance has been the buzzword this week around t I A. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:40.880 Bank Field, getting James Robinson more involved deeper into the game. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.360 He had only thirteen carries last week and that laws 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.880 in Houston, and it feels like that might take some 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.280 of those things off Gardener's plate if they can balance 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.279 things out for Ja Gruden, no question, and that sets 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.880 up your movement where I think Gardener is very comfortable. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.000 That's sets up more play action and you have to 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.520 be sitting there and to your point, a lot of 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.520 it is situationally. When you're behind, you've just frankly got 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.760 to throw it more, but to be dead last in 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.719 the league sent for an old, old line coach like 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.800 Doug Moron that that's just not that's not gonna work, 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.160 That's not how you're gonna function. And on top of it, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.640 I really like your two tackles. Mccam. Robinson's in a 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.400 contract year and you are seeing it. That guy is 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.000 playing with the fury and a vengeance and a consistency. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.159 He's not shown his previous three. Juwan Taylor on the 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.760 other side. I don't know if they keep a pancake 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.560 stat in the NFL, but if they did for offensive tackles, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.360 I promised you he would be high up there and 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.040 well above average. He has some snap and some nastiness. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.839 Uh A j Knts having his best year as a 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.040 pro lender is the center. So this is a above 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.400 average offensive line and the fact that they're sitting there 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.720 at sixty six percent past that's not tenable, nor does 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.080 it play to your strengths. And I would guess we're 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.599 going to see a commitment to that run game today 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.919 heard with us. Let's flip it to the Jaguars defense. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.680 They've had some three issues as of late but consistently 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.159 throughout the year they have struggled to find pass rush, 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.640 one sack in each of the five games so far, 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.800 and really not a lot of pressure on quarterbacks in general. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.880 Not many hits, not many pressures. It's crucial to getting 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.040 Matthew Stafford's face and make him move a little bit 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.600 and dance those feet around. But if you don't, he 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.400 has the awareness in the arm to carve you up. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.840 Yes he does. And and I think you're gonna see 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.520 Todd wash be more aggressive now that the burden is 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.240 to your point about some of the injuries, you know 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.880 you're gonna I think see Korea starting their base package today. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.680 A guy that's had three days of work, you're gonna 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.160 see the ball shared in my opinion, after about being 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.640 here seven days. You're gonna see him take some significant 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.240 snaps today. So I mean guys right literally right off 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.040 the straight and Shared's case and and Korea totally different 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.640 system his third and four years. So uh that that's 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.400 gonna be a little burdensome on the early downs. But 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.680 I think you're gonna see them cut it loose, especially 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:02.360 if they get Detroit in the passing situations. While Detroit 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.560 is Holiday is a big receiver. They don't scare you 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.400 with their speed. Amdola didn't run that great. Marvin Jones 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.320 isn't a Blazer by league standards. So I think they're 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.600 gonna trust their people to play some man on the 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.920 back end, and in any passing situation they can, they're 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:18.800 gonna crank it up. But yeah, they're gonna be down 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.440 somebodies today in that front. There's gonna be some brand 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.680 new faces that they're gonna have to know the basics 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.160 on early downs and then to your point, you've got 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.880 to get home. You've got to hit. Matthew Stafford QB 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.280 hits on the year, that's near the bottom of the league. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.560 The good news for them is they're facing the worst 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.360 in the league as far as pressure. Detroit has five 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.240 sacks as well and only like sixteen hits on the quarterback. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.120 So yeah, the team that that that gets the grass 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.280 stains on either Gardener Gardner or Matthew Moore consistently, it's 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.719 probably the team's gonna win finals. Thought here, whether you 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.000 brought brought humored with us from Fox Sports two top 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.560 corners in the draft last year, going ahead to hit, well, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.640 they're not going head to head. But they're on the 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.240 same game this week, Jeff Okuda and c J. Henderson. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.560 Henderson was out last week with the shoulder. Sounds like 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.920 he's good to go for today. Okuda the higher of 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.440 the draft picks last year. How about those two guys 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.040 earlier this season. Yeah, both of them stunted, you know, 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:15.880 I think in their growth and development a little bit 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.520 by injury for Akuda, especially with a hamstring that limited 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.160 so much of his training camp. And Todd Wash was 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.240 pretty honest with us and we were talking about Chase 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.400 on not necessarily c J, but it, but it relates 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.520 in much the same way. And he said, Man, these rookies, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.040 they're up against it more than any rookie class that 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.280 he's ever seen, you know, because of this COVID situation, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.240 because of the c b A that in all the 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.280 new rules and regulations both with COVID and the new 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.800 CBA anyway, where these guys can't hit, can't play in pad. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.040 So rookies are are. Yeah, And for rookie corners, especially 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.880 top ten corners that are counted on immediately to come 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.720 in and be locked down, shutdown guys unrealistic with the 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.920 off season and training camp. But both have certainly flashed, 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.720 both have had some pick both of had some tackles 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.440 for loss and and disruptive guys. And I know this, 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.079 both of them are highly athletic and have that athletic 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.400 arrogance that you need at that position. Great stuff, Rock, 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.200 Enjoy Jacksonville. Great to see you and talk to you, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.960 and we'll hopefully see you down the line soon. And 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.720 enjoy those college boards this year. I I really, I 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.840 really do, I really do miss them, and who knows, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.040 maybe one day I'll see you on the road again.