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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Hello and welcome,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Straight Fire for Wednesday, January, Big Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Night in the NBA. We're gonna touch on some off

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Speaker 1: court stuff in a second. Ah. You gotta love Kanye Irving.

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Speaker 1: That's his new nickname, Kyrie Irving. Going batshit crazy already, folks. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: it's early to mid January and he's off the rails.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that shortly. I do want to tease

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Speaker 1: an outstanding interview that's gonna chew up the bulk of

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Speaker 1: this podcast with a guy named David Baker. Um you do.

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Speaker 1: You probably don't know who he is, but this gentleman

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Speaker 1: entered the two biggest NFL gambling contests in Vegas, the

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Speaker 1: Season long ones. I entered one of them the last

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Speaker 1: like five years. I've never cashed. Two out of the

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Speaker 1: three years, I've come close to cashing, and I collapsed

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Speaker 1: at the end both times. This guy finished second place

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Speaker 1: in the big money one and one the other one.

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Speaker 1: He won eight hundred thousand dollars gambling in two NFL contests.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna talk about it. It's really interesting stuff. He's

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Speaker 1: a poker player. It's just a smart guy, good insights

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Speaker 1: on the NFL. We disagree on to pick this weekend

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Speaker 1: for the divisional I think you guys will love the interview.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, as always subscribe, rate

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Speaker 1: and review, blah blah blah quickly. NBA on Tuesday night

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Speaker 1: was moderately interesting. You had Kevin Durant carrying the nets

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Speaker 1: with thirty four nets get a much needed win. You

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Speaker 1: had the Lakers crushing the Rockets. By the way, Rockets

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Speaker 1: are playing awful. James Harden not really dialed in. Rockets

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Speaker 1: look terrible right now. Interesting. Sixers heat went to overtime.

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Speaker 1: The Sixers only had eight players. Ben Simmons played thirty

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Speaker 1: two minutes, took two shots. I don't know what that's about,

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Speaker 1: and and they combined to shoot a hundred and eleven

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Speaker 1: three pointers in an NBA game. Final score was one

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Speaker 1: thirty seven to one thirty four, and beat had forty five.

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Speaker 1: Danny Greene hit nine threes and Tyler Hero had thirty

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Speaker 1: four for the Heat. Um, there's no defense happening in

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Speaker 1: the NBA right now. It's kind of ugly to watch.

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Speaker 1: I do want to quickly go two minutes on Kanye Irving,

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Speaker 1: and of course by that, I mean Kyrie Irving, who

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Speaker 1: is officially lost it. Um. He's kind of missing an

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Speaker 1: action right now, except we know where he is. He's

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Speaker 1: just not with the nets and he's out partying. There

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Speaker 1: were videos circulating on the internet Tuesday of Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 1: partying with his sister after he told the team I

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Speaker 1: needed to be away, I needed a personal day. One

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Speaker 1: personal day has now turned into I believe three or four.

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Speaker 1: He's missed three games. He's not expected back the rest

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Speaker 1: of the week. Okay, Um, Kyrie Irving's officially losing his

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Speaker 1: mind here. And I'm gonna say this and nobody's gonna

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Speaker 1: like it. I'm sorry, but this is the truth. We

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Speaker 1: saw James Harden at the beginning of the season and say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't need to hang in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go party with the baby. Um. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not blaming James Harden. The guy that deserves blame for

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Speaker 1: this is Kawhi Leonard. Kauai Leonard set the agenda for

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Speaker 1: about the last three years in the NBA, saying I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing back to backs when I did in a

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Speaker 1: night off, I'm taking it first it was according to

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Speaker 1: the injury. Then the next year, with no injury, he

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Speaker 1: refused to do back to backs. He recently did one

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Speaker 1: for the first time, I believe in three or four years.

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Speaker 1: But Kawai Leonard is to blame for this. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: can't tell the team I'm not doing back to backs.

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Speaker 1: I need rest, I need this, I need that, and

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Speaker 1: then not take heat for it. So he emboldened James

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Speaker 1: Harden to start pulling that junk at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the season. And now Kyrie Irving just vanished. He's like

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Speaker 1: not telling the nets. One of the players said, he

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Speaker 1: texted us that he needs some time off, but he

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Speaker 1: we are in the NBA. The players know that the

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Speaker 1: regular season doesn't mean anything. The games are pretty laughable.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not watching a ton of regular season NBA.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I was locked into every Laker game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Lebron chasing a title. You know he had been injured

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Speaker 1: his first real year they had Anthony Davis was exciting.

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Speaker 1: coming off the football season, for me. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest. NBA is going through a tough spell

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Speaker 1: to start the season. You guys just saw the College

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Speaker 1: Football National Championship game. Ratings were awful in the toilet

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Speaker 1: worst in the playoff era. Like the game was crap.

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Speaker 1: Nobody watched second half. Um the ratings were abysmal. We

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Speaker 1: saw the NBA Finals ratings in the bubble abysmal. We

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Speaker 1: This is a major problem in sports. The NFL is

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Speaker 1: but right now, the NBA's got a big problem, and

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Speaker 1: this Kyrie thing needs to be addressed. Like Adam silver

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Speaker 1: caan't just let this go now. Steve Nash is in

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Speaker 1: a crap spot. He's, as they say, up the poop

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Speaker 1: Steve Nash the first time coach. You're gonna throw the

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Speaker 1: book at Kyrie Irving? Are you? You? You may risk

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Speaker 1: losing him for a month, who knows. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: reality is if I'm the Nets. I'm trying to ship

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Speaker 1: him to Houston for James Harden. That's what I would do. Now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Houston probably would try to reject that, saying,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm getting with Kyrie. The dudes

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Speaker 1: walking around saging arenas, cleansing it of bad juju or

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Speaker 1: don't get Kyrie Irving. Guys, I'm again. I maintained for

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Speaker 1: the longest time that Odell Beckham was a normal dude.

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Speaker 1: Then he made the catch and became a global sensation.

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Speaker 1: He can't walk down the streets to Germany. People know him,

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Speaker 1: Look at Justin Bieber, Britney Spears. We've seen all this stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving hit that shot in Game seven against the Warriors,

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Speaker 1: they get the title, and of course the next year

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Speaker 1: Durant goes to the Warriors. They smoked the Calves. Kyrie

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Speaker 1: Irving asked for a trade and he's never been the same.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been the same guy went to Boston. Oh

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Speaker 1: I love it, you love it, and Boston love it.

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Speaker 1: Game seven. I'm not feeling that. I'm not gonna even

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Speaker 1: in Eastern Conference Finals Celtics Calves, you need even show

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Speaker 1: up Lebron and a bunch of dudes. I just don't

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Speaker 1: right now. It's doesn't make sense to me why he's

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Speaker 1: I don't need this NBA. I don't know whether players

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Speaker 1: are going. They shouldn't even go, and like, dude, what

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Speaker 1: a nightmare already for the Brooklyn Nets. Yes, he's talented,

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Speaker 1: but I would not want that headache if I were

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Speaker 1: Steve Nash and Kevin Durant, that's for sure. All Right,

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Speaker 1: it's time let's welcome in our guest David Baker, pro

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Speaker 1: poker player and NFL gambler extraordinaire. Jason likes to think

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Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. I know

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Speaker 1: what sports dance want. But for everything he doesn't. He

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Speaker 1: a guy who knows the guy you know. It's another guy.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire, a guy who

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Speaker 1: is on top of the gambling world right now, you guys,

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Speaker 1: don't I always talk about the Super Contest and the

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Speaker 1: circu Contest. I've entered them. I've come close to finishing

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Speaker 1: in the money twice, and that was, you know, exciting

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Speaker 1: for me. This guy, he just won the super Contest

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Speaker 1: and finished second in the circle David Baker, David, how

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Speaker 1: are you. I'm great, just trying to come down from

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Speaker 1: it all. Pretty uh, pretty exciting last few weeks in

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Speaker 1: the NFL season obviously, Yeah so uh. I guess we'll

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Speaker 1: get to your strategy. Obviously, everybody's taking notes. A lot

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Speaker 1: of gamble, we do gambling and best bets on here.

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Speaker 1: I've had highs, I've had to lows. But I want

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Speaker 1: to back up before we get to you winning. What's

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Speaker 1: the exact number here, it looks like it was seven

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Speaker 1: eighty five thousand dollars. Is that what the tally was? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yet I should add so you split it with a partner? Yes? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And did first of all you married kids any of

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Speaker 1: Have they followed it to the contest? Yeah, not too much.

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't want to get you know, the

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Speaker 1: and so, um, you know, it's it's still a pipe dream,

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Speaker 1: not a professional poker player. I don't know any personally.

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Speaker 1: How does one become a professional poker player? Did you

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Speaker 1: were your parents into gambling and numbers? Um? Did it

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Speaker 1: the first time, and you guys place at all or no? No?

425
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: We uh we got close to the money, but I

426
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: think like by week sixteen or something, we were pretty

427
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: much eliminated. But um, you know we hung around for

428
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: a while, but no, nothing, nothing really did you guys? First? Oh? Sorry,

429
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: last year, did you guys have a model you were

430
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: working off over anything? Not last year, not this year. Nothing.

431
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: We took the same approach, you know. It's uh, we

432
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: took the same approach this year that we did last year,

433
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 1: which is basically the day before the picks were due

434
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: by partner and I Mark Greg Rich. We would, uh,

435
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: we would get on the phone, get on the phone,

436
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: or you know, I would near the end of it,

437
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: I started going out to Vegas a lot, and uh,

438
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, we were doing in person. But um, for

439
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: the most part, we would just get on the phone

440
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: on Friday night and we would say, all right, what's

441
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: the first game on the list? And we would say

442
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: and I would kind of give my rundown on what

443
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: I thought was going to happen, and he would give

444
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: his rundown on the game, and if we both loved it,

445
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: then we would put that game on. Okay, wait, let

446
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: me stop you there, so run down on the game. Like,

447
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're a big NFL fan. I saw the

448
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: good Seahawks guy. So when you're saying rundown on the game,

449
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: like the game script or the market and how it

450
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: moved throughout the week or both kind of everything, and

451
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a Seahawks guy. My partner was

452
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: a Seahawks So um, yeah, I mean we would just

453
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: basically just talk about the game and and just what

454
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: we thought would happen, and and uh, if we thought

455
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: the markets were fair, or if you know, we thought

456
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: one side was being undervalued or overvalued. I mean early

457
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: in the year, we got off to a really good

458
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: start and these and part of that, those winnings that

459
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: you talked about was UM. These contests have quarterly prizes,

460
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: and we won the quarter UM on the Super Contest

461
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,239
Speaker 1: when we came in second and circus, so we got

462
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: off to a really good start. I think we really

463
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: had a good feel for UM. You know, we talked

464
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: before the season, and we kind of had a good

465
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: feel for UM where we thought some teams were overvalued

466
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: and undervalued by the market just in general, and also

467
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: just how the NFL was going to play out without fans,

468
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: without COVID, I mean with COVID, And so you know,

469
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: early on we we really UM added some value to

470
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: the good quarterback, especially on the road. I think we were.

471
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: It seems pretty obvious now because it's been a big

472
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: talking point the last couple of months, but early on,

473
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: nobody really thought about this, and we did. And and

474
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: and just the fact that with no crowd in the

475
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: in the stands, the smart, good quarterbacks can read the

476
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: defense and they don't have to worry about how to

477
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: communicate the tackle, the tight end, the receiver, the running back.

478
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 1: You know that they were going to change the player,

479
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: that they were just gonna mend it a little, or

480
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: or there was a hot read or something like that.

481
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: And you know, when you have a road game, all

482
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: it takes is just one misscommunication where you know, you

483
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: tell the receiver to cut the route and he's still

484
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: running a fly and uh, and it's a pick six

485
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: going the other way, you know. And and in this

486
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: time where there's no crowds like the rust Wilson's and

487
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: uh and uh the Rogers and um, you know whatever,

488
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: just the better quarterbacks in the league could really feast

489
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: on reading defenses. UM. So we hit that we also

490
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: were very above the market on a couple of teams.

491
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: We really saw that Indie had a very strong um

492
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: offense and defensive line. So we were on them very early, um,

493
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: when most of the market was still looking at them

494
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: as you know, Philip river Old Old, Philip Rivers Old,

495
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: t U I Hilton and those guys. We we thought

496
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: that you know, their line play and their defense could

497
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: overcompensate for the lack of aggressive playmakers they had. So

498
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: we were on them early when they got off the

499
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: really good start. Obviously, they lost the first game. We

500
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: weren't on them then, but the rest of the time, Um,

501
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: we were very early on on Philadelphia and the Jets

502
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: were very bad teams. Um, we we destroyed betting against

503
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: those two teams for the first you know, ten weeks

504
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: of the season. I mean, I think our record was

505
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: something like seven and four across both cards when we

506
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: picked against those two teams. So, um, you know that

507
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: was a really good uh you know in fact that

508
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: we had that. Let me ask you. You You said, you know,

509
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: during your Friday call, you would see who's overvalued in

510
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: the market. I'm curious how you guys quantified that. Were

511
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: you watching TV shows looking for narratives and you know,

512
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 1: square plays or whatever they want to call them. Were

513
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: you looking at ticket counts versus money counts? Where you

514
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how were you What was one of

515
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: the ways you were doing that. I wish I could

516
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: just you know, tell you that we're some secret geniuses

517
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: that like, you know, had the this the spreadsheets and

518
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: we didn't. Really We're two NFL fans that we love

519
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: the game. You know, we read stuff online, we listen

520
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: to podcasts, you know. Um, but at the end of

521
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: the day, we're just two NFL fans, you know, enjoying

522
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: a glass of wine or beer, discussing football like most

523
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: of your listeners do out there. And one other thing,

524
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: would you guys talk before Friday at all? Any emails,

525
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: text anything? Um? We did a little bit, but we

526
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: tried not to talk that much. Um. Yeah, because you

527
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: know how much noise there is during the week. Yeah.

528
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: And first of all, like you know, if if we're

529
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: talking on on Wednesday and I tell him, like, you know,

530
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm really high on the bills this week, I mean,

531
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, And then when he's looking at the game,

532
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: he's just looking for confirmation bias, and he's trying to

533
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: find you know, if you want to find uh information

534
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: supporting your side, you could always find it. Um. I

535
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: mean that's the thing about the spread is I mean

536
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: you're really never more than like you know, even like

537
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: with some news, you might get up to sixty forty

538
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: with some live movement and news, but at the end

539
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: of it, you know, you're basically you know, it's it's

540
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: it's just the spread is designed to get action on

541
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: both sides. So there's legitimate reasons why you can be

542
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: on both sides. And the last thing that I want

543
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: to do is taint his research by you know, telling

544
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: him I'm really high on these teams or vice versa. Um,

545
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: So we tried to not really talk. I mean we're

546
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: really close, so I mean we talk a lot about

547
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: life and and about the games and and things in

548
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: the past, and um, you know, occasionally some opinions would

549
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, squea out there. And as it went on,

550
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean we were pretty aware of who each other

551
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: was gonna like. I mean you just kind of into

552
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: this this set that you know, we thought the Giants

553
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: were very undervalued for a majority of the season, and uh,

554
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: you know I even tweeted out like they were I

555
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: think they were one in four or one in five

556
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: or something, and I said, you know, the Giants are

557
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC East. I mean really,

558
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: I think if they didn't get like an injury, you know,

559
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, I mean, they were

560
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: in contention to be there, even when they were multiple

561
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: games out. You know, we just saw that they were

562
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: that that they had some value. So we were on them.

563
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: We were pretty good about like you know, Baltimore had

564
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: like basically three different teams, you know, the beginning team,

565
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: the COVID team and then the after team we were

566
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: pretty good, like kind of rolling with them. Let me

567
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: go back to the Giants. Was it numbers that you

568
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: saw with the Giants that were good when they were

569
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: still one in five? Because if I recalled, they got

570
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: stomped by like the JV forty team at home, and

571
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: a guy like me saw that. I think I was

572
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: on the Giants that day and I was like, this

573
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: team's unplayable. Like I I watched that game and I

574
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: was just distraught that I picked such a ship team. Yeah,

575
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean that that every team has, uh, you know,

576
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: a bad game or two, but that was probably there's

577
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they hung they hung tough with the rams

578
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: um they played uh you know just basically they were

579
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: getting treated more like the Jags and the Jets um

580
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: with the spread. But yet their defense was pretty strong.

581
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I Mean the thing about the Giants is when you

582
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: have James Bradberry locking down a corner um the way

583
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: that they did, and they had they had a pretty

584
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: good front seven. So when you can basically apply a

585
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: little pressure to the to the quarterback, you can kind

586
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: of bottle up the run a little bit. Um, you know,

587
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: with the exception of the Niners game. Um, and you

588
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: can cut off half the field with Bradberry. I mean,

589
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: it's very hard to put up large numbers. But yet,

590
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets and the Jags were, you know,

591
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: we're having to you know, we're getting you know, seven

592
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: to fourteen points throughout the year depending on how later

593
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: went in the season. The Ians were kind of being

594
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: thrown in that same amena, but yet they were only

595
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: giving up like twenty three points a game and stuff.

596
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: So I think I thought Danny Dimes was a little underrated.

597
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a he's not an m v

598
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: P candidate or anything, but I thought that he was fine.

599
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I like Ingrahm and uh, you know Slayton.

600
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: I went to Auburn. He's an Auburn guy, and so

601
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: I thought Slayton was, you know, a little undervalued. I mean,

602
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: he kind of fell off as the year went on,

603
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: but the offensive line was okay, and they just had

604
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: like a lot of little things that I kind of like.

605
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: And really it kind of also more stemmed from, you know,

606
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: my extreme feelings on the Eagles. I mean, really, there

607
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: was there's no team in the NFL that I had

608
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: a strong opinion on than the Eagles. And you know,

609
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: basically from week one we faded them. I think like

610
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: week one they were they laid six to the football

611
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: team and and you know, we played Washington, we thought

612
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: that they would win the game. As the season went on,

613
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: we continued to you know, rail against Carson Wentz. I've

614
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: been on the anti Carson Wentz train for three years.

615
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: Um and uh. And then like you know, we had

616
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: a pivotal game mid like kind of Week twelve or

617
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: Week thirteen in the circuit contest where the Eagles were

618
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: playing the Giants and it was in New York. The

619
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: Eagles were Yeah, the Eagles were three point favorites on

620
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: the contest, but in real life they got bet all

621
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: the way up to like five and a half. And

622
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: we knew that the contest was going to be very

623
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: very heavy on the Eagles, that everybody was going to

624
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: take Eagles because you don't really see two and a

625
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: half point line moves. Um, you know now that means

626
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: all the sharp money is going on Eagles. Well I

627
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: looked at that game and I thought the Giants should

628
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: have been a field goal favorite at home and they

629
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: were getting a field goal, and in real life. They

630
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: were getting almost six and I told Mark, I was like,

631
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: this is this is a spot where we're going to

632
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: make a point on the on the field, and we

633
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: bet the Giants, and sure enough, the Giants won. And

634
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: when you're able to take a spot where the higher

635
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: field than a contest has on one side and you're

636
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: able to go the other side, like not only do

637
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: they lose a game and an opportunity to make up

638
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: a point, but you gain that point and it's really good,

639
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: like when we were down like three or four points

640
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: at that point in Circa and just making up like

641
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: that full point on your field, on the field really

642
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: makes a big difference. Let me ask this, um, So

643
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: twice in the last three years, I've been close to

644
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: the money right around week eight or nine, and November

645
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: creeps up and you've got your family talking about Thanksgiving,

646
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? And then you've got the

647
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: holidays and birthday presents, Christmas presents. And I know I'm

648
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: sounding like I'm blaming outside ship, but twice in the

649
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: last three years, I mean, David, I have cratered in

650
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: the middle of the month of November. And I looked

651
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: at it again and I just the market starts to

652
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: move from where it was early in the season. Right,

653
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: they've adjusted, I'm not adjusting. Well, how do you handle

654
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: adjusting as you see teams being uh, you know, overvalued

655
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: in the market, how do you make those Justine? You know,

656
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: that's a very good point. And and the NFL season,

657
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: you really have to have to be willing to, you know,

658
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: be fluid in your opinions. One thing that that I

659
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: did this year that I've never done in the past

660
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: was I'm I'm a very stubborn person of my nature.

661
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I think most of us are. I mean,

662
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: when you say an opinion, especially you know, I'm I'm

663
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: pretty outwardly with my opinions. You know, I've post on Twitter,

664
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I have a big network of people

665
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: that I just talked to. And and when you say,

666
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: like this guy is terrible, or this coach is terrible,

667
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: or this guy's the goat or whatever, it's very hard

668
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: for you to backtrack on it later. And you know,

669
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: these are these are human beings, and you know they're

670
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: constantly working to improve, and some of them do and

671
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: some of them don't. And you know, it could be

672
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: just a simple thing and a flaw mechanic or you know, uh,

673
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, getting back your left tackle or um, you know,

674
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 1: a I can marry peace and the and a better

675
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: safety comes in which you know, gives the you know,

676
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: lens assistance to going back. Teams change and and when

677
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: we get two trapped in our own narrative, then it

678
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: becomes you know, it becomes a problem. And so I

679
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: think that's that's a very you know, important thing I

680
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: would say for listeners and you to do is is

681
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: just be willing to be fluid and be willing to

682
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: change your opinions. Um. Also, you know, trust you know,

683
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: understanding that there are outlier games, but also trusting your eyes.

684
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean I've I heard so many people say, well,

685
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, the line moved three points off of the

686
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: look ahead or four points off the look ahead, and

687
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: this is the same team it was two weeks ago,

688
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of times it's not the same team.

689
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: You know, trust yourself and know that these teams have

690
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: three and four different um reincarnations of themselves sometimes, I

691
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: mean you can see like with the you know, on

692
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I think we were we were like four

693
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: no picking them and four no picking against them, Like

694
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: understanding that these teams, that these teams go through flows

695
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, so I think that's the

696
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: main thing. And also the market does adjust. So, um,

697
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: if you had an early take on something, um, and

698
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: you were proven to be right most of the time,

699
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: the market is going to compensate, then go to your direction.

700
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: The market is not that it is not as stubborn

701
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: as we are as individuals. So you know, just because

702
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: you had an early take, it doesn't mean that you

703
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: need to stick by it because the market is caught

704
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: up to your take. All right, let's been forward to

705
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: divisional weekend. First of all, have you made any plays

706
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: on any of the games? I have not yet? Um, okay,

707
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: any early leans? Yeah. On the FC side, I have

708
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: a couple of leans. I'm I'm definitely leaning towards Buffalo.

709
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I know Baltimore is. I know Baltimore hold. On Monday,

710
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: I came on here and said, listen, I bet fairly

711
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: significant lead Baltimore getting three. It was a little juiced,

712
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: and then it came down to two and a half

713
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: and then too and I'm like, all right, I'm feeling

714
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: good now here. It is You're on the right side

715
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: market wise. I mean, I know that I know that. Um,

716
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, Baltimore's the darling and and and we actually

717
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: rode Baltimore the last three or four weeks of the contest.

718
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: I bet him last week against Tennessee. I just didn't

719
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: think that this Buffalo team is just another level. And

720
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, when you're Baltimore and you're playing you know,

721
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: one dimensional team or a team with a media of

722
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: the bad defense, I think you can just run through them.

723
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to score a lot of points

724
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: to keep up with Baltimore. I mean, to keep up

725
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: with Buffalo. I know Baltimore the defense is is decent,

726
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: but they're not killers. Um, this isn't this isn't the

727
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Rams defense. Um, this isn't the Baltimore defense that we've

728
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: grown accustomed to. The good. Um, but I mean, Allen Diggs,

729
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: they're on another They're another level right now. So I'll

730
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: lay out my Baltimore thing. Um, when you watch the

731
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: Colts move up and down the field against the Bills,

732
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: every Colts drive got to Buffalo territory. I think they

733
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: had more yards, more first sounds, everything, And how did

734
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: they do it? A lot of running? I mean Hines

735
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: and Taylor, I think they combined for like a buck sixty.

736
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: Rivers used the tight ends. What does Baltimore do they

737
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: run the ball? They used Mark Andrews the tight end. Like,

738
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: I just wonder if that same blueprint will work and

739
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: keep the ball away from Buffalo. And I actually believe

740
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense the secondary is better than the Colts um.

741
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: I think, Humphrey Smith, I think there's an advantage here

742
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: for the Ravens in my row. Well yeah, I mean, uh,

743
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: all year Buffalo has been run on. I mean if

744
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: you can remember, even back, like I think it was

745
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: Week four when Buffalo played Kansas City or a week

746
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: five or something. I mean Kansas City who throws the

747
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: ball time? I mean, they just ran down their throat.

748
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: That was the one game where Clara Hilaire had had

749
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: a great game. And definitely Buffalo is susceptible to the run.

750
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like this Buffalo offense is is I

751
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'm I'm I'm bought in on

752
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm bought in on this Buffalo team. Um at home.

753
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: I feel like last week was a little nerve wracking.

754
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Alan and McDermott had to kind of shake

755
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: off the playoff cobwebs um and the things. I mean

756
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: in the Ravens too. I mean, both teams had a

757
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: lot of question marks about last year's playoff Tobaccle, so

758
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: I guess both teams did that. But I don't know

759
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm anything. I'm feeling Buffalo, So okay, yeah, you're You're

760
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: probably right because I think by the by Friday, the

761
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: world will be on Baltimore and I'll look like, alright,

762
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: anything in the NFC quick before we wrap up. It

763
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: sounds like John Wolford from what I saw, is going

764
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: to be the starter this week. Um. I don't know

765
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: if that's games have been shipped from McVeigh, But do

766
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: you see a big difference between Wolford and golf? Because

767
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: it didn't look like the market change significantly. Now. I

768
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: think the market kind of hates golf, honestly. I mean,

769
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: I've I've been in golf camp for a while. Um.

770
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: I actually predicted the Rams to get to the Super

771
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: Bowl the year that they did go to the Super Bowl.

772
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: Um So, but I'm one of those things about not

773
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: being so stubborn. I mean, I've I've lightened my stance

774
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: on golf and understand he's pretty limited at this point.

775
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: Um Acres is really kind of driving that offense, and

776
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: the Packers aren't very good versus the Rush Um. I

777
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: also think that that the Rams kind of benefit from

778
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: having multiple receivers. I mean, I think the Packers really

779
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: with Jay Alexander, you know, they're really going to excel

780
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: when a team has one big playmaker, and and you know,

781
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: they Rams kind of multiple playmakers, so I could see

782
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: I could see them keeping this game close. Obviously, you know,

783
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is is such a beast at this point,

784
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: and you know, nobody stops Davante, but you know, if

785
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: they can limit Davante to you know, seven and ninety

786
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: with a touchdown like that's probably about as good as

787
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: anybody can do. And I don't think you see anybody

788
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: doing you know, much more than that or even that

789
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: against you know, Ramsey at this point. So I would

790
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: kind of lean towards the Rams. I think it's gonna

791
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: kind of be uh load of mid scoring games, so

792
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: I could see, you know, getting a touchdown there. I'll

793
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: wrap up on this one, David. I had read a

794
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: quote where you said during the contest, is you're an

795
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: NFL gambling home field advantage was basically nullified. Okay, Um,

796
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: how do you can you apply that to the Packers

797
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: at home this week? I don't believe there's any fans there.

798
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: And then the Chiefs at home off the by, I

799
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: think there will be some fans there. You know, I

800
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: did say that, and I did believe that for a

801
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: majority of the playoffs, I mean for a majority of

802
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: the regular season. I think the playoffs are a little different. Um.

803
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's not not entire early, but um,

804
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: I think that there is a little bit of advantage.

805
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean the Rams are you know, I mean Green

806
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: Bay it's freaking cold, Buffalo it's cold, I mean Kansas City.

807
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: There there are fans in the in the stands. Um.

808
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not willing to go back to the

809
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: two and a half or three point but uh, you know,

810
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: I think a point or so is is point point

811
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: and a half is is good, Um, you know in

812
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: these instances. And also, I mean the better teams are

813
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: at home right now. So yeah, I mean another thing

814
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: just popped up, David, Sorry, I gotta ask it. So

815
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: you just touched on three teams at home, and I

816
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: remember that the Browns are going back to back Road games. Um,

817
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, now we'll have back to back to

818
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: back given they had to go on the road in

819
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: week seventeen and the Rams now back to back road games.

820
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: Do you factor that at all into your handicapping at all?

821
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: And I know traveling is a little different now than

822
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: it was thirty years ago, but does that matter at all?

823
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean not a ton, But I mean I would

824
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: say that. Um. One thing that I that I thought

825
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: that the road teams had an advantage um this year

826
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: was because of COVID. You can't do anything on the road.

827
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: So these teams, you know, they get their tests, they

828
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: get on the plane, they go to the hotel. There's

829
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: no risk of you know, going out to the club's

830
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: going out to you know, eating too much at a

831
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: fancy dinner and the night before I mean you're all sequestered,

832
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: um in your hotel. You know, you have nothing to do.

833
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: But you know, look at game plan and you know,

834
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: play PlayStation or whatever. They do you know on the road, Um,

835
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: whereas the home the home teams are you know, they're

836
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: trying to quarantine. You know, the wife's sister wants to

837
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: come over. You know, you got the you know, you

838
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: got them, you got the mother living with you. You know,

839
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: you've got your kids that have just been in school.

840
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, you're constantly trying to avoid all these pitfalls,

841
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: and on the road, I think you can kind of

842
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: galvanize a little bit. Um. You know. I'm not sure

843
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: how much that place in a factor in the playoffs,

844
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: but I think that's one of the reasons why a

845
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: lot of the road teams had more success to this

846
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: this year than years past. But obviously, you know when

847
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: you're traveling multiple weeks in a row. Um. And also

848
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: we've seen it historically that this is the week where

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Speaker 1: the home teams have have thrived, you know, coming off

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Speaker 1: by weeks. Not only are you know, the the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and Packer has been better throughout the year. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: they've had an extra week off, you know, in Kansas

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Speaker 1: City's case, two weeks off. Um. You know that being said,

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Speaker 1: I do think Cleveland matches up decently with Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's a lot of points. Uh. I'm

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Speaker 1: probably leaning the dog there too, But you know, it's this,

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Speaker 1: This is this is the best week in football. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these four games right here, every game has such intrigue

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Speaker 1: and Um. I mean we didn't even mention, you know,

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Speaker 1: Brady verse Breeze, which that's like amazing the market, David.

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Speaker 1: None of these lines are probably gonna move it all

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Speaker 1: this week, right, I mean maybe a half point here there.

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Speaker 1: I think you can make legitimate cases for for both

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Speaker 1: sides and in each game, So I don't really I

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Speaker 1: think the lines were held were hung pretty fairly. UM.

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Speaker 1: I do think that Baltimore's is going to be like

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Speaker 1: the cheeky choice, um, which makes sense. I mean they've

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Speaker 1: looked really, really good of late. I mean, this was

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Speaker 1: a preseason team that was, you know, the preseason favorite. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think there's still a little bit of the show

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Speaker 1: me what you got from Buffalo, you know, from the

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Speaker 1: last twenty years. I'm trying to look at just this

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Speaker 1: team in its current form, and I just really like

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Speaker 1: this this Buffalo team. Um. And I think you know,

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Speaker 1: with Avious White, you know, being able to lock down

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Speaker 1: you know, Hollywood a little bit, Um, you can, the

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Speaker 1: safeties can cheat a little on the run. Obviously Lamar

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Speaker 1: is a huge X factor, but you know they've been

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Speaker 1: going against Josh Allen in practice. I mean, if there's

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Speaker 1: anybody who's you know, seeing these read options and these

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Speaker 1: scrambles out of the pocket, you know, and how to

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Speaker 1: contain them. You know, it's got to be the bills

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Speaker 1: um and vice versa two. I mean, the Ravens, you know,

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Speaker 1: probably know how to contain Josh Allen a little bit

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Speaker 1: more as well. But all right, Uh, David, I just

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Speaker 1: looked up your Twitter. It's a U d AU David B.

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Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that's Auburn David Auburn University David B.

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Speaker 1: David B. All Right, you guys should give him a follow.

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Speaker 1: I just clicked on that profile. Geez, man, you've got

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Speaker 1: some good accolades they did their David, congratulations on all

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Speaker 1: your success and uh, you know, I'm sure you'll we

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Speaker 1: haven't everybody tail your picks next year, because that's what

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Speaker 1: happens to the winners. But like this weekend and in

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Speaker 1: life and your moved to Vegas, man, congrats, thank you

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Speaker 1: and thank you for the time that you've given me

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Speaker 1: today and also for you know, promoting sports and gambling

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Speaker 1: and things like that. And anytime I can do anything

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Speaker 1: for you or you want back, just let me know

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Speaker 1: I'm always available.