WEBVTT - Was 1984 the Greatest Year for Horror?

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for a bevy of classic

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<v Speaker 1>horror films of the nineteen eighties, mainly movies from the

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<v Speaker 1>year nineteen eighty four, but several others, so be warned,

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<v Speaker 1>you warn. Hello, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Concepcion and on Mersday Night and welcome back the

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<v Speaker 2>from a iHeart podcast. We're bringing you three episodes a week,

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<v Speaker 2>every Tuesday Thursday, and an extra episode on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, aren't you lucky? In today's episode, in the previously on,

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<v Speaker 3>we are going to be talking about why people think

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four is the best year for horrors, What

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<v Speaker 3>movies came out, then why do people think this? And

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<v Speaker 3>then in the airlock, we are gonna be arguing what

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<v Speaker 3>year we think is the best year for horror And

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<v Speaker 3>believe us, we spent all weekend just watching eighties horror movies,

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<v Speaker 3>so we are ready. We are ready to make this

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<v Speaker 3>argument and it's the perfect argument for spooky season. Get

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<v Speaker 3>ready to get scored.

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<v Speaker 1>First up previously on nineteen eighty four. Okay, Rosie, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four, tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So this year in horror is very much seen

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<v Speaker 3>as if you guys remember a few years ago. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>me and Jason did an episode about nineteen eighty two

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<v Speaker 3>and was it the greatest year for like NERD movies,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four has essentially become that same year for horror.

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<v Speaker 3>We had Children of the Corn March nineteenth, nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 3>We had Friday the thirteenth, The Final Chapter April thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four. We had the Drew Barrymore classic Stephen

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<v Speaker 3>King adaptation Firestarter eleven, nineteen eighty four, Gremlins one of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite movies. June eighth, nineteen eighty four. Ghostbusters a seminole,

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<v Speaker 3>rosy childhood classic June eighth, nineteen eighty four. Company of

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<v Speaker 3>Wolves underrated, underrated gothic fantasy horror classic, very underrated movie.

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<v Speaker 3>This one I think Edges nineteen eighty four up because

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<v Speaker 3>it is so strange and it's like a sexy, erotic

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<v Speaker 3>horror fantasy red riding hood situation. Also, Jason, I know

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<v Speaker 3>this is a seminal movie in your life. Cannibal Humanoid

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<v Speaker 3>underground Dwellers aka Chud by Douglas Cheek.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me just say about Chud quickly. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Chud, A wonderful film about cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers

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<v Speaker 1>that are haunting the city. They live in the sewers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're devouring unhoused people as well as many others. A

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<v Speaker 1>documentary reporter and a unhoused people's advocate go on the

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<v Speaker 1>war path to try and figure out what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>They discover a cover up by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Course,

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<v Speaker 1>but let me just say great actual acting performances by

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<v Speaker 1>John Hurd, Daniel Stern and Chris Curry and John Goodman,

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<v Speaker 1>really really strong dramatic acting in a wild horror movie.

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<v Speaker 3>An incredible practical affair and incredible practical effects, and really

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<v Speaker 3>one of the underrated classics in.

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<v Speaker 1>My eyes of the eighties. I continue, please continue about

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Terminator, Yeah, October twenty sixth, nineteen eighty four. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say this is horror adjacent in my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do believe sci fi to me that at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, yeah, I could see it being more in

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<v Speaker 3>that horror vean. Okay, Now, I do think that this

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<v Speaker 3>next one is a large reason that people think of

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<v Speaker 3>this and this is stuff. A Nightmare on Elm Street

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<v Speaker 3>November ninth, nineteen eighty four, Wes Craven classic, John Saxon,

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<v Speaker 3>my favor, Robert England, obviously Heathe Langenkamp, Nancy, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the legendary Final Girls. I do love this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this franchise. This is actually a very scary movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's before Robert England's really like hamming it up, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little bit more spooky him later on. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how it was for you guys, but like,

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<v Speaker 3>so when I was a kid, I was in primary

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<v Speaker 3>school as we call it, so kind of like baby

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<v Speaker 3>school you're like eight or nine. There was a spate

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<v Speaker 3>of sleepovers where their parents allowed the kids to watch

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<v Speaker 3>Nightmare on Elm Street, and then they would have to

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<v Speaker 3>do assemblies at schools being like, do not let your

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<v Speaker 3>kids watch this because then all these like eight and

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<v Speaker 3>nine year old kids are running around London like have.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard of Freddy Krueger.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna kill you in your sleep, and then nobody

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<v Speaker 3>was sleeping. So that was a very influential movie on

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<v Speaker 3>my childhood. And also I just I still love it.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the best and most imaginative slashes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was an influential one for me as well,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've spoken about on the show here. I was

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<v Speaker 1>given a membership to a local video rental place because

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<v Speaker 1>I was home alone a lot, so I watched a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of horror movies that I shouldn't watch. Among them

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<v Speaker 1>was A Nightmare on Elm Street. And it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first movies where I can remember talking with

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<v Speaker 1>my friends about Easter eggs, Like when when at the

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<v Speaker 1>end when the roof of the car flips up and

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<v Speaker 1>it's Freddy's, Oh my god, sweater colors. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys notice that it was like Freddy's sweater colors?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that was your like fuss Easter egg movie I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was getting used to. Truly a pioneering film and still

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<v Speaker 1>has the power to scare it. I mean the scene

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<v Speaker 1>in which I forget the name of the characters, but

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<v Speaker 1>the one friend of Nancy's is hurled like they're having

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<v Speaker 1>the sleepover, and she's hurled up onto the walls and

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<v Speaker 1>across the ceiling and is like getting stabbed like through

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<v Speaker 1>the guts, like as her boyfriend watches is still terrified.

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<v Speaker 3>Also the scene where Johnny Depp's character gets sucked into

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<v Speaker 3>the bed and they spray all the blood up into

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<v Speaker 3>the ceiling also as well. I will say an underrated

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<v Speaker 3>moment in this movie, but I do think has become

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<v Speaker 3>like a very iconic scene is when Nancy sees her

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<v Speaker 3>dead friend and she's in the body bag in the

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<v Speaker 3>school hall way. I think about that a lot. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>from a very serious movie to a very un serious movie,

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<v Speaker 3>which I will say, if you live in LA or

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<v Speaker 3>another metropolitan area, or just somewhere with a great rep cinema,

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<v Speaker 3>you will probably be able to see this movie in

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<v Speaker 3>the next coming months at the cinema, and I highly

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<v Speaker 3>recommend it. It is Silent Night, Deadly Night, November ninth,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four. This is an absolutely deranged movie. And

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<v Speaker 3>in England, I have to say this definitely has a

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<v Speaker 3>bit more of like a exploitation, kind of not serious,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's definitely seen as more of like a It

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<v Speaker 3>was quite shocking when it came out, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>very controversial because it has a killer in a Santa suit.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will tell you if you go and watch

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<v Speaker 3>this movie in an American repfit. I went to see

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<v Speaker 3>it last year at the New BEV comboed with Black Christmas,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best Christmas movies of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Black Christmas is truly one of the great great horror movies.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Trailblazing slow and then that was first and everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>but then this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this movie is whack.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes afterwards and it is like you're in riff tracks

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<v Speaker 3>when you're watching the movie in the cinema, and I

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<v Speaker 3>have to say ten out of ten would recommend was

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely just fantastic to watch with the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing about the controversy as a child and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like understanding that there had been this tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>controversy around this film, and then renting it as a

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<v Speaker 1>young person when I got my membership card and being

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<v Speaker 1>a little let down, like I thought it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was going to be it feels like a TV movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I thought that the controversy, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>really understanding the full controversy. But my perception of it

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<v Speaker 1>was this movie is so fucking violent that it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to pull it. It's too much. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it and it was like, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The actual reason it was one of those perception controversies. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the post that very famously has a guy in a

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<v Speaker 3>Santa suit with an axe arm and I's coming out

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<v Speaker 3>of the chimney and it's kind of like how even

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<v Speaker 3>now into any four, the new Damian Leone movie Terrifier

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<v Speaker 3>three came out where the art the clown is in

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<v Speaker 3>a Santa costume, and there was actually protests outside the cinemas,

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<v Speaker 3>I think in Kansas City, where they were like, we

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<v Speaker 3>say no to this satanic Santa. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>somehow there's like a Christianity connection to Santa. I am

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<v Speaker 3>unsure how, but that was really what it was about.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say though, just honestly, great time watching this

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<v Speaker 3>movie in a cinema with a crowd or if you're

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<v Speaker 3>just interested in weird oddities. This is more of like

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<v Speaker 3>a made for TV drama about the nature of abuse

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<v Speaker 3>and like this weird Gray vite about trauma, and there

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<v Speaker 3>is like violence, there's guns, and but it's not really

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<v Speaker 3>a horror movie in a traditional sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about these are surely the headliners.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the headliners.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your favorite nineteen eighty four horror movies? Top three?

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<v Speaker 3>I would definitely say a Nightmare on Elm Street has

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<v Speaker 3>to be up there for me. Okay, you go, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do one for one. Okay, there's just so many good ones. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so mine's not right Elm Street. Yeah, I agree, Okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So then I would say I love Friday the Thirteenth

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<v Speaker 3>as a franchise, but that would not be one of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I mean, the Final Chapter is the movie

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<v Speaker 1>in which you can feel director Zito, amongst many other people,

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<v Speaker 1>really really trying not just to kill Jason, but to

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<v Speaker 1>kill this franchise. No one wanted to make this anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the death of Jason at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>spoil the death of Jason at the end of this

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<v Speaker 1>movie feels very definitive and it's very funny that it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does. And also as well, this is before

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<v Speaker 3>you just start getting into like the really good weird shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I will say about Friday thirteenth, the

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<v Speaker 3>Final Chapter, I do enjoy Corey Faubman's performance in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think it's very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he becomes like the foil in the series,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very funny.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's an interesting kind of who is Tommy

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<v Speaker 3>Jarvis how does that go on? But probably I would

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<v Speaker 3>say Gremlins, even though again I would say that is

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<v Speaker 3>more of a horror adjacent movie. But I really do

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<v Speaker 3>love that movie, and I watch you every year at Christmas,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's actually a big yif of Christmas horror with

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<v Speaker 3>Gremlins and Silent Night Deadly Night.

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<v Speaker 1>My second one, and this is very difficult. This really

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<v Speaker 1>is a great year. But my next two are what

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<v Speaker 1>I think of as the X Men influence in horror movies. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>and so my second pick is the underrated in my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes Dreamscape, Yes, from nineteen eighty four, starring Dennis Quaid,

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<v Speaker 1>Max Foncido, Christopher Plummer, Kate Capshaw soon to be the

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<v Speaker 1>wife of Steven Spielberg, and it's about it's basically inception.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about a guy who has psychic powers, Alex Gardner

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<v Speaker 1>played by Dennis Quaid, who gets caught up in a

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<v Speaker 1>scheme to assassinate the president using dream inception. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>got some wonderful horror trope in there, and some nice

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<v Speaker 1>callbacks to some nightmares we see earlier in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a movie that I think people have forgotten about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still love Dream Skip nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. I would also say that I

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<v Speaker 3>just I'm going to do like a kind of broader

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to Like there is a lot of underrated

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<v Speaker 3>horror weird like Slashes that came out this year, The

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<v Speaker 3>Initiation that's a really good weird movie, Splatter University, and

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<v Speaker 3>blood Bath, blood Birth at the House of Death. And

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<v Speaker 3>I will say something that you said, Jason, as we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting ready to prepare this. So many of these movies

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<v Speaker 3>are available on cheubee. Guys, if you don't to if

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<v Speaker 3>you have a smart TV, go to chubee and you

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<v Speaker 3>can watch so many incredible movies that honestly have been

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<v Speaker 3>lost for a long time because of streaming. But if

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna have to pick, and I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm going to go for properly. A movie

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<v Speaker 3>that I truly think is very underrated is a Company

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<v Speaker 3>of Wolves.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I do just think it's like really great

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<v Speaker 3>and it was I watched that a lot when I

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<v Speaker 3>was a teenager, very formative for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Jordan, Yeah, who's truly a quality filmmaker. His work

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<v Speaker 1>here is fantastic. It's got that dreamy, kind of gauzy,

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<v Speaker 1>too much vacoline on the lens.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, drastically, Neil Jordan look definitely for me. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up reading, I had this. I still have this book. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of the few things I still have from

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a kid. I had this copy of

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<v Speaker 3>Grim's fairy Tales that was a hardcover that I got

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<v Speaker 3>at like a bookshop where my mum worked, and it

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<v Speaker 3>had all the real German Grimm's fairy Tales where like

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<v Speaker 3>Cinderella's stepsisters are like chopping off their heels to fit

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<v Speaker 3>it in the boot, and then they're making Cinderella's stepmom

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<v Speaker 3>dance to death in iron shoes and this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the horrors of what the real moral fables were. And

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Company of understood that and was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so what do we How do we make this into

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<v Speaker 3>like an actual horror movie, but that still has this

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<v Speaker 3>interesting coming of age growing into womanhood and how scary.

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<v Speaker 3>That is just a really cool movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And then this, Gosh, I think it's up for

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<v Speaker 1>debate whether this is truly a horror movie, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pick it anyway. Firestarter, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was gonna say, if you're doing X Men, Yeah, so that's.

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<v Speaker 1>My X Men again. The X Men influence in horror movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Firestarter about a secret government program to create psychic telepathic warriors.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes sideways and two of the former Chess subjects

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid named Charlie. She is played by Drew Barrymore,

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<v Speaker 1>who is wonderful in this film, like truly like baby,

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible performance by a very very young actor. And

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<v Speaker 1>she has the ability not to just move things around

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<v Speaker 1>with her mind, but she has this exponentially dangerous ability

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<v Speaker 1>to start fires and the whole while there is this

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<v Speaker 1>secretive government program that's trying to control her, they call

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<v Speaker 1>the Shop. You get like a wonderful scene of a

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<v Speaker 1>confrontation between these government agents and Charlie, like in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a farmhouse that calls back to Magneto versus the

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<v Speaker 1>Cops and the first X Men movie. It's a great one.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's very like, you know, WEAPONEX yees, very WEAPONEX tybes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's part of why I really

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Incredible performances, most notably by David Keith as

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie's father, like tons of pathos from him. George C.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott as like this super warmonger, manipulative guy who gets

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie to believe in him. It's really great, and they

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<v Speaker 1>remade it some years ago, I think twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>a film that's really not that good, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that movie has Zac Efron it. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 3>would also like to say I don't know how recently

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<v Speaker 3>anybody watched Children of the Corn, but I did do

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<v Speaker 3>a rewatch of the entire franchise recently thanks to the

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<v Speaker 3>blessings of Antenna TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have to say that first Children of the

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<v Speaker 3>Corn movie completely wild. Absolutely, you would never believe it

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<v Speaker 3>if somebody told you what the movie was about. But

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<v Speaker 3>it does have Linda Hamilton in it, yes, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is actually like very enjoyable. Though I will say as

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, I always got it confused with the John

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<v Speaker 3>Carpenter remake of The Midwich Cuckoos that had Christopher Reeve

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<v Speaker 3>in it, and I have to say I am still

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<v Speaker 3>more of a Village of the Damned fan the Children

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<v Speaker 3>of the Corn. Yeah, but Linda Hamilton is really good

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<v Speaker 3>and I actually think the First Children of the Corn

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<v Speaker 3>is a good movie, and I do want i think

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<v Speaker 3>that one is another reason this gets edged up. But

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<v Speaker 3>we got to step out of the airlock and into

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<v Speaker 3>our debate about which year in the eighties was actually

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<v Speaker 3>the best for horror movies because there are just so many.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I think this nineteen eighty four one. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like it's a random pick because right now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>we can make the argument for.

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<v Speaker 1>More to your point, it feels overrated, specifically because of

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<v Speaker 1>mister Freddy Krueger.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister fred Old Krugel.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go onto our debate right back after this. Okay, Rosie,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about nineteen eighty four. Now let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what our personal favorite year for horror in the eighties is.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like to start who?

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<v Speaker 3>This is so complex and it's fun, it's fun. There

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<v Speaker 3>is I would just want to say, festival. What a

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<v Speaker 3>blessing to have the eighties, because the eighties is just

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<v Speaker 3>such an unreal decade for horror. Every year there is

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<v Speaker 3>at least one or two bangers, and I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>depending on the flavor of what you're feeling, you could argue,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, nineteen eighty two you had cat People very good,

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<v Speaker 3>but obviously that's not going to be that's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be swinging anyone's vote.

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<v Speaker 1>The original Cat People actually scarier, Yeah, actually scary. Fifties

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<v Speaker 1>cat People actually scared.

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<v Speaker 3>But then Poltergeist and The Thing, which I think arguably

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<v Speaker 3>you could make an argument that that's the best year

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<v Speaker 3>in horror just for those two. But I am going

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<v Speaker 3>to propose nineteen eighty seven. Now, I will say this

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<v Speaker 3>is not this is not like a banner. You're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get that list like we just gave you for

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four. But for me, I'm gonna start with

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<v Speaker 3>the horror adjacent release that for me, as a kid

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<v Speaker 3>growing up, I was obsessed with, which is Angel Heart

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<v Speaker 3>starring Mickey raw Oh my god. It's such a good movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a neo noir in the eighties, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a mystery and it's about a guy who's hunting someone down.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't look it up. Yeah, just go watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have not seen Angel Heart, don't read anything

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and go watch it because the twists in

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<v Speaker 1>this film are fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the best twists that you've ever Currently streaming

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<v Speaker 3>on Paramount Plus if you are that way subscribed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that for me, I watched it a lot as a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it. I would tell people about it. It

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<v Speaker 3>felt like one of those movies i'd discovered. But the

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<v Speaker 3>two big ones here that I think as adults I

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<v Speaker 3>watch every year more than once. I will go and

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<v Speaker 3>see in the movie theater whenever they are on. Clive

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<v Speaker 3>Barker's Hell Raiser one of the best horror movies ever made,

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<v Speaker 3>and Joel Schumacher's The Lost Boys, that's great, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best vampire movies ever made. For me.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a fantastic mix of Hell Raiser is this

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<v Speaker 3>vibrantly gory, strange movie about a girl who lives with

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<v Speaker 3>her dad and her stepmom and she kind of discovers

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<v Speaker 3>that her uncle who shows up, Uncle Frank, had some

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<v Speaker 3>weird occult dealings with a magical puzzle box. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>very terrifying movie, unbelievable practical effects, the cenobites, Doug Bradley

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<v Speaker 3>as pin Head, who had gone to become this iconic

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<v Speaker 3>horror character. Very queer movie, very queer movie, very queer franchise,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's kind of the nature of Clive Barker's work.

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<v Speaker 3>I just love this movie. It's still really scary. There's

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<v Speaker 3>still people who don't want to watch it because it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of has this BDSM horror aesthetic that can be

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<v Speaker 3>very unsettling. It also was originally supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 3>horror movie with a woman in her mid forties and

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<v Speaker 3>the lead. The stepmom was originally going to be the lead,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think is really cool and I love that,

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<v Speaker 3>and they managed to keep her in there. But then

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<v Speaker 3>you have Lost Boys, which is queer in a totally

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<v Speaker 3>different way and just totally cool every time I go

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<v Speaker 3>and see Lost Boys. I went to see it recently

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<v Speaker 3>with Nick and my wonderful friend cartoonist be Like Unis,

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<v Speaker 3>and when we were there, I was just like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, I want to be a cool vampire living

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<v Speaker 3>in Santa Cruz the fairground. I want to be young,

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<v Speaker 3>far fast. And also like, how can you not love

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<v Speaker 3>a movie where there's just a random saxophone solo. No

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<v Speaker 3>one knows why he's in it, sax guy, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in Santa Cruz for a while, and wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that vibe. The kind of beautif full picturesque beach town

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<v Speaker 1>with a dark side really feels like the real place.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's a very strange place. It's a place

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<v Speaker 1>where multiple serial killers were plying their deadly craft, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>during the seventies. Edmund Kemper was you know, killed his

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<v Speaker 1>mom killed a bunch of co Ed's was you know

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<v Speaker 1>like he lived in the Santa Cruz Mountains, and so

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<v Speaker 1>lost Boys feels it manages to capture that contrast between

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful beach lightness and weirdness and old hippies and something

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous going on in the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And also I will say as well, I know

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<v Speaker 3>this is both mine and your favorite nightmare and elm

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<v Speaker 3>Street movie. Dream Warriors incredible, fantastic movie, unbelievable, young costs,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the best deaths, very quippy, very.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, very quippy cool, like, the effects are amazing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got a fun song by the hair metal band docn

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<v Speaker 1>as the theme, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want a Dream Noble. Also, Patricia Arquette, you have

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<v Speaker 3>some legends in this movie. Also this year also had

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<v Speaker 3>Evil Dead two, which I do believe many people believe

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<v Speaker 3>is the superior Evil Dead movie. Another one that is

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<v Speaker 3>streaming for free on Pluto TV right now. Obviously love

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Raimi. Also underrated. One that I love from this

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<v Speaker 3>year is John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness, starring Donald Pleasance

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<v Speaker 3>and Victim Want. I really like this movie, but that

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<v Speaker 3>I am a John Carpenter superstan so I've seen every

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<v Speaker 3>John Carpenter movie. I will make the argument even for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Ghosts of Mars, which is at least he

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<v Speaker 3>was still using some cool miniatures. Guys, come on, but

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<v Speaker 3>this one is like a science versus religion combo where

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<v Speaker 3>there's a mysterious green liquid and these academics arrive and

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<v Speaker 3>kind of decipher whether or not, like, will this be

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<v Speaker 3>able to bring Jesus back? Was Jesus an alien? Is Satan?

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 3>It's all this signiens religion, horror, really interesting, smorgas bored.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a spiritual follow up to the thing because it's

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<v Speaker 3>part of the Apocalypse trilogy that ends within the Mouth

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<v Speaker 3>of Madness. Now, the underrated John corp in a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Super super weird fucking movie that I'm still not sure

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.640
<v Speaker 1>what happened. Yeah exactly, but the vibes, but the vibes

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<v Speaker 1>are incredible. I actually rewatched it recently and still don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's happening. But very very crazy movie in the

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<v Speaker 1>Mouth of Madness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, also horror adjacent in eighty seven Monster Squad.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love Monster Squad.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say I actually was not lucky enough

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<v Speaker 3>to discover this as a kid, because I would have

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<v Speaker 3>loved it so good. But I watch it every year

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<v Speaker 3>as an adult. It's on Pluto, it's free, it's so charming,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Monster Squad ready. Did you like the Goonies a

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<v Speaker 1>gang of kids who go and do an adventure? This

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<v Speaker 1>is like the Goonies, a gang of kids that band

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<v Speaker 1>together to do an adventure, but they do an adventure

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<v Speaker 1>teamed up with Frankenstein, Wolfman and like vampires and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly very cool fun. Also, Blood Dina came out this year,

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 3>which was directed by Jackie Kong, so it's like a

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<v Speaker 3>rare female horror movie in this era. I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is an underrated year. And also there's like sequels Galow

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<v Speaker 3>Return to Salem's Law. There's also some really weird movies

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<v Speaker 3>that I've only discovered from watching Antenna TV. Here, like Dolls,

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 3>where our family has to just stay in this house

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just full of creepy dolls.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie. I think this was gonna be my pick as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he's but it's okay because there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>other years to pick from. Great, And I will say

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've missed out on what I think for me,

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<v Speaker 1>for my money, best horror movie of the entire eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty seven's Near Dark. Oh my god, what ifaring

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<v Speaker 1>the entire cast of aliens in a film by Catherine Bigelow,

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<v Speaker 1>the hurt Locker, Blue Steel, Zero Dark, thirty incredible director.

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<v Speaker 1>Near Dark is basically neo western about this gang of

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.439
<v Speaker 1>vampires that rides around in our love this movie, cutting

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>people's throats and drinking them. It's an incredible film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Also, I feel like people maybe don't take this

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 3>question seriously if this is not the answer, because if

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<v Speaker 3>you're even looking at those like horror adjacent Predator came

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 3>out this year. Yep, also a movie. I will say, Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna recommend that you go and watch this

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.719
<v Speaker 3>movie because it has aged very badly. It's very fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>Lots of language, et cetera that we would not use nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I first saw it on a VHS in

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.880
<v Speaker 3>like a squat many moons ago. There's a movie called

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 3>Street Trash and it came out this year. It is

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 3>on Cheuwby right now. I will say it was what

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 3>was known as a melt movie, and the idea was

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 3>it was gonna be this like new version of Troma,

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 3>and basically everyone the effects is like every time somebody

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 3>drinks this kind of a cherry wine that they just

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 3>melt and the effects are very cool. The movie itself

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 3>very corny, badly age movie, but I will say I

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.439
<v Speaker 3>did just learn that somebody just remade this, and I

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 3>believe it's gonna be on Chewby. Also very important movie

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 3>here historically because Peter Jackson's Bad Taste came out in

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty seven, and obviously that was like kind of

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 3>one of his breakthrough If you've seen Lord of the

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Rings and you're like, what was this man doing before

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Lord of the Rings, go and watch Bad Taste, because

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.479
<v Speaker 3>this man was a splatter gore fiend. He really was,

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 3>and he was making some praise stuff. Also both Slumberpaty

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Massa two and Silent Night Deadly Night Part two. So

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I just think like eighty seven is a great year

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to the explosion of horror and also thrillers. Why, oh,

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 3>you know what we should mention before we move on sure,

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Wicked City the anime, because that is very seminar horror

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.640
<v Speaker 3>anime came out in eighty seven. But yeah, I think

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 3>this is such a good year.

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I agree with you, But now, for the sake

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of argument, I'm going to pick my other favorite eighties

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>year for horror and going with nineteen eighty five. Oh,

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I think top line maybe not as strong as eighty seven,

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>but still some incredible bangers that I think are very underrated.

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with a continuation of a classic series, George

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Romeiro's Day of the Dead. Oh, following up Dawn, Yeah,

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>which listen, Dawn not just the best, in my opinion

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 1>of the George Romero zombie movies, but actually a great film.

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Opening twenty minutes of Dawn of the Dead is as

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>good as anything that you can think of.

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 3>Great anti capitalist movie.

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Day of the Dead also very good. So

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>we've got Day of the Dead, and here's my If

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>it's not the best horror movie of eighty five, I

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's my favorite. Fright Night.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Fright Night. This is a joyous watch.

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 1>A joyous movie that's kind of self referential, understands the

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>horror genre. You've got this young teenage kid who is

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a big fan of horror, specifically of this like late

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>night horror TV program that's hosted by this guy who's

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>like a washed up old hammer television star named Peter Vincent.

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And over time, Charlie begins to suspect that his neighbor.

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 3>His cool hot neighbor, his cool.

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Hot neighbor, is up to something weird. Turns out, guess what,

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>his neighbor is a vampire, and you get this big

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>showdown between Charlie with the help of Peter and his

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend trying to save his girlfriend really from the clutches

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>of this vampire, trying to take this vampire down. It's

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic movie with some wonderful horror tropes. It's referential

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>in the way that Scream would be referential in the nineties,

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:35.959
<v Speaker 1>and it's just really fun. They did remake it with

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Colin Ferrell. I think Anton Yakovic, Anton Yaalkin, it's pretty good,

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty fun, it's pretty good.

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 3>You could do a little double bell. Yeah, you know, Jason,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I think you picked a very strong year here. This

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 3>is another year kind of like eighty seven, where there

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 3>are some big headliners reanime legendary movie that I think

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>is still just being rediscovered. I'm always seeing kids sharing

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 3>stuff on ticked. You know. It's kind of barely based

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 3>on an HP Lovecraft Boo story, but it does something

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.919
<v Speaker 3>so much. It's directed by Stuart Gordon, who was, you know,

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 3>a B movie master, and stars Jeffrey Combs, who you

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 3>have probably seen in a million other horror movies simply

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 3>because he was in this movie. Yeah.

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Basically a retelling of the Doctor Frankenstein's monster kind of

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>myth in which this mad scientist starts putting together dead

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 1>bodies and reanimating them. Another film that is highly referential

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and understands like the genre it is in and is

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a super super weird movie. Here's a film you mentioned, Barker.

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big listen. I love the Pinhead stuff, but

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I think some of his non pin Head stuff is

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>also amazing. Let's talk about Underground. Oh, I'm Markers Underground

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>from nineteen eighty five, in which there's a hidden and

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>mysterious group of sub human mind anster species created by

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a mad scientist. They're living under London.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Great, very very fun.

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Early Clive Barker also known as Transmutations and Underworld. There

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>are many different names for this, but yes, I love

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 3>this one definitely one of those first ones that I

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of saw and didn't know what it was. Also

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 3>just want to bring up I will talk about this

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 3>more extensively on other episodes this holiday season. This is

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 3>when Returned to Oz came out. One of the scariest

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 3>movies I ever saw as a kid, a Disney sequel

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 3>to Wizard of Oz that stars Freeze a Bulk and

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 3>starts with Dorothy getting electric shock treatment before she goes

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 3>to Oz and discovers that everyone's been turned to stone

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>and there's a new evil queen who chops off people's

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 3>heads and wears them. This is like a masterful kid's

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>horror movie, and I still love it so deeply, and

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 3>it was impossible to find anywhere other than very expensive

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 3>DVDs for a long time, but now you can watch

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 3>it on Disney Plus.

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Next up, nineteen eighty five's Thus Duff by Larry Cohen.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>This is a film that is like environmental and regulatory

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>horror was kind of big in the eighties. Chud talked

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>about like the misdoings of the you know national They

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.959
<v Speaker 1>dealt with all the nuclear stuff. Nuclear Regulatory Commission excuse me.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Chud is basically like a failure of oversight of food. Basically,

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>this is so creepy, it's so crazy. This company creates

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>this extremely sweet yogurt ice cream kind of substance which

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>people eat and then become crazy addicted to, and it

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>has all sorts of insane effects. Wonderful performances by Michael

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Moriarty and Garrett Morris who and Paul Cervino. Garrett Moose

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>apparently hated dealing with Larry Cohne, but he's wonderful in

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>this film. Super super underrated movie that people don't talk about.

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>It is just a fantastic, weird kind of satirical but

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>also very scared film with notes of body horror. The

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff check it out, extremely viby, very vibey. And also

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I am.

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Always surprised when I realized this movie came out in

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 3>the eighties, because it's got like a seventies vibe to it.

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's very strange. I'm gonna go for like

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 3>another incredible kid's horror here that was like really important

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 3>to me, which is like more of a fantasy, but

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 3>I think it is horror a jacent which is legend.

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God Legend.

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Came out this year with Tim Curry in one of

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 3>the scariest practical effects of all time, wearing this giant

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 3>devil costume with these huge horns.

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Truly awesome fantasy film.

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Just fantastic movie. Ye, Ridley Scott, what were you thinking?

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I'm glad because I love this movie.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise, such a delightful and important movie in my

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 3>life and also with some really scary moments. So this

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 3>is such a good year. There's just so many.

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>There's so many. Next up for me, here's a film

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that blends sci fi and horror, nineteen eighty five's Life

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.959
<v Speaker 1>Force by Toby Hooper. I love that is one that

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>again is a film that I think people don't talk about.

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, who gave us Alien, who gave

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>us so many other horror films, And it's basically what

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>if aliens or vampires?

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 3>And it's from this really fun era of post alien

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>movies where everyone wanted to do aliens. So it's like

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 3>these walking cloths. Yeah, people, and they're like, well if

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 3>aliens were vampires?

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Young Patrick Stewart.

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh baby, yeah, this is that's a good one.

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>And then this is a movie that I it's not

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>technically good, but I really liked it as a kid.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>And that is the adaptation of yet another Stephen King novella,

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Stephen King was ruling the eighties, not just you know,

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>on the bookshelf, but also on the screen. And this

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>is Silver Bullet.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I love I actually love this one. I have

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 3>this on DVD.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>This is a wonderful film about a small town dealing

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>with a werewolf that is killing off various citizenry and

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>how a young disabled man takes on this werewolf with

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful performance by Corey ham Excuse me as that

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>young man and Corey ham is. I think people who

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>know about Corey Hame they think of the Lost Boys

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and Lucas, then they think of the troubles he had

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>later on in his life. But he was a fantastically

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>talented actor able to really conjure some like deep emotion.

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's true in Silver Bullet, which is a very

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>low budget film with some great scares and the chemistry

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>between Corey and Gary Busey as his kind of like scamp,

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>hard drinking uncle who's lets him have toys that he

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean who doesn't love to watch Gary Busey in

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 3>a B movie. Yeah, he's always living it up.

0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>And then lastly, again it's not my favorite of the Freddy's,

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>but oh, Nightmare and Elm Street two legendary is an

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>important film for the evolution of Freddy because it's really

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the point in time in which my senses, Robert England

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't think he'd be doing these continuously.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Remember this man was a thespian beforehand. After Nightmare on

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Elm Street one, I once chatted to Robert England at

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 3>an event and I interviewed him about nightmaron Elm Street.

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 3>And after the first movie, he was reviled in the country.

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 3>He was hated in the USA. People felt like he

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.399
<v Speaker 3>was corrupting children, he was not having a good time.

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 3>So I think you were onto something.

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>So when he was asked back for the sequel to

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Nightmare and Elk Street, which became a Nightmare on Elk

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Street two, Freddie's Revenge Man, Robert England is putting a

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of spice on these Freddy Yes.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.439
<v Speaker 3>And also this is a very It was a very

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 3>controversial movie directed by Shoulder and it stars Mark Patten,

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 3>who in the very fantastic. I cannot recommend it enough.

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Documentary Scream Queen talks about his struggle as a closeted

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 3>gay kid being cast in this movie that is extremely

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 3>queer and extremely queer coded. I mean there's literally a

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>scene where the kid who is possessed by Freddie goes

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 3>to the BDSM club where his teacher is and there's

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 3>like somebody's getting killed by being like butt whipped with

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 3>like a towel in a shower scene, like it's very gay,

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 3>and he was constantly being told no, it's not gay,

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 3>don't worry about it, and then the movie came out

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 3>and it was like he was really gas lit. It

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 3>has since become like a true queer classic.

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.760
<v Speaker 1>It's truly a queer classic, and now.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Mark Patten feels more comfortable to accept it. But yeah,

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 3>watch Scream Queen. It's such a good documentary about this

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 3>movie and the strange trajectory that it took and the

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 3>way it impacted the characters and the actors within it.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 3>I will also say something I think is really cool

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 3>about this year that I kind of hadn't really realized

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 3>till we were talking about it. This is an interesting

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>year where there's a lot of horror, and there's a

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.760
<v Speaker 3>lot of horror that is directed to a more family

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 3>audience because of the success of stuff like Night ron

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 3>elm Street, Black Cauldron Good. That's a great one of

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 3>the most terrifying Disney movies of all time. I love

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 3>that movie. It's probably my favorite Disney movie. Really terrifying stuff.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 3>And you have a lot more horror comedies. You have

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 3>things like Ghoulies, you have Legend returned to us, re Animator, reanime.

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 3>You have these movies where they're like, oh, horror is

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 3>actually this can make money for us on a very

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 3>low budget. So I think so far we've picked two

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 3>very powerful years.

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Here's my last movie, go for it. Last movie to

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>mention from nineteen eighty five before we move on and

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>pick our very favorite horror movies of the eighties. I

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>did not appreciate this film until recently, but you have

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to mention nineteen eighty five's Vampire Hunter.

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<v Speaker 3>D Oh my gosh, yes, yes, yes, thank you for

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>bringing that one.

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Our classic anime of a involving were wolf hunter and vampires,

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and it is just you want to talk about.

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Viby, Oh my god, it's and it's like one of

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 3>the most seminal anime of all time.

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Unreal viby. So that is my pick, love that, that

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 1>is your pick. Nineteen eighty seven for you, nineteen eighty

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>five for me. I think there's honestly can't go wrong

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>with either year.

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 3>You've even sold me on eighty five. I'm like, I

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 3>think these are equal, because that is a great year.

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Now let's close it out by listing our top hot

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>this is really hard, our top five favorite or scariest

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever horror movies of the eighties right back after this. Yeah, okay, Rosie.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>We talked about eighty four, we talked about eighty seven,

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>we talked about eighty five. Let's talk about the entire decade,

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<v Speaker 1>and are top five favorite horror movies of the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to go first?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, guys, this is like extremely hard. You know, this

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 3>is gonna start big conversations in the discord. I'm sure

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 3>if we've missed anything, that's just all subjective. Man. Yeah,

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 3>there's so many movies we haven't even talked about. Movies

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 3>like They Live. I love that movie, Child's Play. We

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't even bring up Chucky. But I'm gonna go for faves. Okay,

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna mention anyones that I've already mentioned because

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 3>those are my favors, and I think I'm gonna get

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 3>out of not filling my stuff up, So I'm gonna

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 3>start with one of my favorite movies from this era.

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 3>It is a B movie Night of the comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh agreed.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 3>This is one of my all time favorite movies from

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four, going back to the original. It stars

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Catherine Mary Stewart as Regina Belmont and Kelly Mourinias Samantha Belmont,

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 3>a pair of sisters, one of whom works in the cinema,

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 3>which I thought was the coolest job you could ever have.

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 3>And one night she's staying overnight hanging out at the

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 3>cinema with her boyfriend who's the projectist, waiting to lender

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 3>real to someone, and she misses meeteor shower or the

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 3>arrival of a comet that basically turns everyone into kind

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 3>of raving zombies. And then her and her sister, who

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 3>also missed it because she was, you know, doing some

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of Valley Girl esque thing, have to team up

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 3>to survive this apocalypse with Robert Beltran from Star Trek,

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 3>and they have to kind of team up to survive,

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 3>not only the first half of the movie, which is

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 3>more of your general zombie apocalypse s kind of sci

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 3>fi movie, but then the very interesting and I would

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 3>say slightly slower, but I still love this movie second

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 3>half where they kind of have to survive the government. Yeah,

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.879
<v Speaker 3>and What America. It's kind of like a mashup of

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 3>the tropes from the whole Night of the Living Dead series,

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 3>And I just love this movie. I watch it all

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 3>the time. Very underrated, So I'm going to go for

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:58.280
<v Speaker 3>underrated faves and B movies that you can stream now.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 3>And I just watched this the other day. So this

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 3>is on Pluto for free, Roku channel for free, sling

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.760
<v Speaker 3>for free. You can go and enjoy this right now. Baby,

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 3>what about you, Jason?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I'm going to do my top five

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 1>horror movies of the eighties that I haven't mentioned yet,

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>because my favorites are honestly movies we've before. You talked

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>about The Lost Boys, Nightmare, Elm Street, Dream Warriors, Fright Night.

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 1>But let's start with the ones that I haven't talked

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 1>about yet. And first up, so I watch I have

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of horror movies. I don't get scared.

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I watched, as I told Rosy and Aaron before we

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>started the bike, I watched Hereditary at one am and

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>went right to sleep. It didn't bother me at all.

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I can watch any horror movie now and it

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't scare me. But the one movie that really bothered

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<v Speaker 1>me and continues to really creep me out is Henry

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Portrait of a serial Killer from nineteen eighty six Legendary.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's how shaken I am by this film. I honestly

0:40:55.000 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>struggle to recommend it. It is harrowing. It's ostensibly a

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>dramatization of the serial killing career of Henry Lee Lucas,

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>who was an active serial killer who I think, who

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>clearly inflated his crimes, yes yes, and told a lot

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of lies about the things he did, but also clearly

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>did murder people. And so that gives this film an

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>ominous tone. And there are some scenes in this film

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that I that I would not watch this movie again.

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Put it that way. Yeah, the performances are extremely strong.

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>There is a scene, there are several murder scenes, but

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>there's one of a home invasion that is really scary,

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and so that is I think the scariest film that

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen nineteen eighty six is Henry Portrait of

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a serial.

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Killer, only eighty three minutes long and streaming on pretty

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 3>much every free to B Peacock, Pluto. It is really terrifying. Though,

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 3>this is not one to watch with your kid now.

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 3>This is a truth. It has been a very interesting

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 3>precursor to kind of the obsession with true crime that

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 3>we have now. Yes, and these kind of celebrity you know, Dharma,

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 3>et cetera. But it's way more unsettling and subtle and creepy.

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 3>That's a great pick.

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.240
<v Speaker 1>It really is like a watch it with the lights

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>on and again, very unsettling.

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Your next pick, I'm going to go for something really

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>fun and light after that, which is Little Shop of Horrors.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great.

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 3>This is one of my all time favorite movies.

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>See Moore, miss Seymour.

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 3>I love it. The original is great. I used to

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 3>have the original on VHS, but this remake is so fantastic.

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 3>I adore it. It is Rick moranis in the lead.

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 3>It is a fantastic musical. It has an unbelievable amount

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 3>of star power. The songs are brilliant, the deaths are great.

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 3>You are essentially cheering for a serial killer who is

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 3>feeding people to a alien plant. And I think it's

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 3>a perfect spooky season watch. And I think it's so

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 3>beautifully made. I think we need more movies like this

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 3>now and A Yeah, I think this is definitely one

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:05.280
<v Speaker 3>of the best movies of the AES.

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<v Speaker 1>My next one is creepy. It is scary, it is

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:14.280
<v Speaker 1>wonderful practical effects, it is mysterious, it's kind of sexy.

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:18.240
<v Speaker 1>It is nineteen eighty one's The Howling. Oh great choice,

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>directed by Joe Dante, who had gone to do much

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>lighter stuff, but also I believe he did Gremlins right.

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>And it involves a television journalist from la who goes

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>up to the Pacific Northwest to follow up on an

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>investigation that had kind of touched her career. That is,

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>the investigation into this serial killer named Eddie Quist who

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>had attacked her in the course of her trying to

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like uncover his crimes to learn more about him. She

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>goes up to this weird kind of hippie retreat up

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>into the Pacific Northwest and finds a colony of were wolves.

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that stands out to me about

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 1>this movie is the melancholy ending. It has a very

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>sad ending, which is kind of unheard of I think

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>for American movies, even horror movies of the time. Definitely,

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and a wonderful performance by Dee Wallace. Great movie, The Howling.

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Love that really good pick. I'm gonna go for another

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 3>John Carpenter movie. As I said, I do love him.

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 3>This is controversially one maybe my favorite John Carpenter movie.

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. The vibes are just so good. The

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Fog Ooh from nineteen eighty co written by John Carpenter

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 3>and Deborah Hill, the legendary producer, also stars AJM Bobo,

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Jamie Lee, Curs, Tom Atkins, Janet Lee. It's such a

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 3>great movie and it's basically about a radio DJ in NorCal.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm still trying to work out how I can become

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 3>a late night radio DJ.

0:44:56.280 --> 0:45:01.760
<v Speaker 4>And you're listening to Rosie Knight at night. The cold

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 4>fogs are rolling in, but I'm here to keep you

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 4>warm with these lounge jazz classics.

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 3>And Adrian Barbo plays the radio DJ and she's in

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 3>a small narcout town. They're about to celebrate their centennial year.

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 3>But when a weird glowing fog appears, people start to

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 3>get murdered, and you eventually learn that these kind of

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 3>ghostly pirates are coming out of the fog and killing people.

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 3>It's so weird, it's so good, so many great practical effects,

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 3>extremely vibe next up.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't mention it in my rundown out of eighty five,

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>so I have to mention it here. I'm not a

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>fan of anthologies. Usually I find anthology movies to be

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>usually uneven at best and very boring at worst. But

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>there are two great horror anthologies of the eighties, and

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about one of them right now.

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Katsi from nineteen eighty five.

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Great pick, what a deep cut.

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I love Katsai. This is all based on Stephen King's stuff. Again,

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Stephen king adaptations were ruling the eighties. There's a through

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>line here of this cat that is roaming through all

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the stories and appears in all the stories, and every

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>story is in its own way notable and awesome. You

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>have Quitters Incorporated, in which a man hires a company

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to quit smoking and the company turns out to be best.

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Not spoil it, but it's great. You have the Ledge,

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>which is just like a psycho thriller about a insane

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>physical trial that this person has to go through and

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>then the general which ties it all together with the

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>cat versus this mystical goblin creature. Drew Barrymore again with

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 1>another wonderful performance. James Woods, who has since gone insane

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>but is wonderful in this film, appears Katsig in nineteen

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>eighty five. It's great.

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.879
<v Speaker 3>Okay, now, guys, I will warn you if you've been

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 3>watching the rest of my picks, you might be like, yeah,

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 3>these are my little cozy b movie hardpicks. My next

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 3>one is not I have to bring up because we

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 3>haven't talked about it, and I do think it is

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 3>a very important movie from this decade, and that is Possession.

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 3>This is a wild movie. I love this movie, deeply

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 3>important movie to me. It stars Samuel who You also

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 3>are like, wow, that guy's never in weird movies. No,

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 3>this is a very strange movie. He is an international

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 3>spy who returns to Berlin where his wife played by

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Isabelle Ajohnny, one of my favorite actresses. Yeah, this is Pikajanni.

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 3>She is asking for a divorce and throughout the movie

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 3>there becomes this strange push and pull between them about

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 3>why she wants to leave, and it becomes this kind

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 3>of psychosis of romance and betrayal and a strange tent

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 3>called Preachers. It is an incredibly unsettling movie. It's an

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 3>incredibly fucking cool movie, and also right now it is

0:47:56.480 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 3>maybe the most influential horror movie on twenty twenty four

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 3>because movies like The First Omen and Immacula, there are sequences,

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 3>especially in the First Omen, that are directly taken from

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 3>this very famous scene with Isabella Johnny in a tunnel

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 3>during Possession. So if you want to see something weird,

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 3>if you're like you guys aren't recommending scary stuff, Henry

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>of Portrait, Henry Portrait of a serial Killer and Possession

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 3>would be like a absolutely day ruining double bill. So

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:27.800
<v Speaker 3>if you want that kind of thing, we can deliver

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 3>that too.

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 1>My next up is nineteen eighty three's classic from David Cronenberg, Videodrome.

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh my god, what a pick.

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 1>If you're familiar with Cronenberg and his body horror stylings,

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>this is a film. This is a film that you

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>might be familiar with because of the many, many scenes

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>which have later become memes. Yeah, and gifts that appear

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 1>on social media, that appeared on The Daily Show, that

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>appeared in various other forums. Guys heads exploding things coming

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>out of their guts. And it's basically what if TV

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>was bringing stuff from another dimension to inside of you.

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic. Another wonderful, brilliant performances by James Woods Debbie

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Harry in an acting term.

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 3>She's so a.

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Gross, thought provoking horror classic by David Cronenberg video drum.

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, what a great pick. I've already got what

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 3>more space? Oh my gosh, guys, this is so hard.

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 3>I could literally just talk about this all day. I

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 3>am going to go for Oh my god. Okay, okay,

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go for one. I have to include this

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 3>because it is like a very big part of my personality.

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.799
<v Speaker 3>So even though there are many seminal movies we have

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 3>not touched on yet, movies like The Thing or The Hitcher,

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<v Speaker 3>go and watch that. It's so fucking scary. It's so scary.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna pick in the line of my movies and

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't talked about yet. There are b movies that

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<v Speaker 3>you can stream now. Nineteen eighty eight. A. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't talk about but another great explosion year for horror

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<v Speaker 3>Killer Clowns from out of Space.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Killer Clowns Around.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Another movie filmed in Santa Cruz, The Santa.

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<v Speaker 3>Deeply important movie for me. I love this movie as

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, made by the Chiodo brothers. I actually have

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<v Speaker 3>a Killer Clown's fan comic that I made with my

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<v Speaker 3>brilliantly talented artist friend Daniel Rude Massa that I basically

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<v Speaker 3>am always carrying around in my back pocket, like hege,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to make a Kill a Clown's graphic novel?

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<v Speaker 3>I love this movie. It's so much fun, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>basically about aliens who come from space to Earth and

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<v Speaker 3>they their ships look like giant circuses, and they look

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<v Speaker 3>like scary clowns, and they have these fantastic practical suits

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<v Speaker 3>in case people in cotton candy. I just love this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so silly, it's so weird, and I think it

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<v Speaker 3>has stood the test of time as like an incredibly

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<v Speaker 3>inventive B movie. And they recently made a Killer Clowns

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<v Speaker 3>from out Space video game that was very well received.

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<v Speaker 3>I am just generally a big fan of Killer Clowns,

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<v Speaker 3>so I had to include that one in my list.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a totally fun movie. If you haven't seen it, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>go watch it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my last one. All your B movie vibes, all

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<v Speaker 1>your pulp comic book vibes, all your horror comic vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the other great horror anthology of the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>again adapting Stephen King's works. It is nineteen eighty two's

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<v Speaker 1>creep Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is funny, it is gross, it is pulpy. There's

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<v Speaker 1>your comic book stuff in there. Each wonderful vignette has

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<v Speaker 1>a great moral like, yeah, very like a moral message.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a very moral movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Also directed by George A. Ramera, written by Stephen King,

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<v Speaker 3>like what can you do? And it's like very easy homage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, very easy. Stephen King appears in it in what

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think is a quite surprise risingly good performance

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<v Speaker 1>acting wise from Stephen King's very over the top, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it works. Nineteen eighty twos creep Show, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the eighties for horror. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you could just keep doing.

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<v Speaker 3>This because this could be its whole own sub show

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<v Speaker 3>for shoal. But this was so good. I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 3>to hopefully do more of these debates about best horror

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<v Speaker 3>in the decades, because this is really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next couple of episodes of X ray Vision,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got episode six of The Penguin. Tuesday, we're diving

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<v Speaker 1>into episode seven of Agatha Along and then in extras

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, Aaron and Oboo are back with another recap

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<v Speaker 1>of episode six and seven of season one of Arcane.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, Bye. X

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<v Speaker 1>ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kenspsion and Rosie Knight

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<v Speaker 1>and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers

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