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Speaker 1: Hey, So this this show is really designed for you

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Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of parents out there of young kids.

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Speaker 1: So that's really our goal tonight. We'll get the questions

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Speaker 1: So here's one for you, Winder. Your curveball became one

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Speaker 2: It's just my personal opinion. I don't want to develop

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Speaker 2: get the best hitter out and the crowd goes well,

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Speaker 2: you know, and always envisioned I always envisioned that crowd

435
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Speaker 2: going crazy. And I always wanted that crowd going crazy.

436
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Speaker 2: And when those scouts where there was only like five

437
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Speaker 2: in the stands, I'd be like, huh, if there's a

438
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Speaker 2: traffic jam or something like, there's probably so many of

439
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: them trying to get where's everybody else. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just a competitive nature of a person I think

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Speaker 2: comes out in those spots.

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Speaker 1: I can see you running around the backyard though hands

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Speaker 1: after you got that final out in Game seven. Man,

444
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Speaker 1: I can see Waino in the backyard pumping his fist

445
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Speaker 1: celebrating the big victory to win the World Series when

446
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Speaker 1: you were nine. I mean I see that happening.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get to live that out. That's such

448
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Speaker 2: a cool dream. You know, only one person in the

449
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Speaker 2: world gets to close the World Series out every year,

450
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Speaker 2: and I got to be that person two thousand and six.

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452
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Speaker 2: mean it was you know, I did that. I did

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Speaker 2: that five hundred thousand times before that appen. That was

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Speaker 2: like muscle memory.

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Speaker 3: So when going to that moment, when you get that

481
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Speaker 3: you know you get that shot to close that out.

482
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Speaker 3: Are you trying to block out before you head out there?

483
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Speaker 3: Are you trying to block out the outcome and just

484
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Speaker 3: focus on the task, or or are you seeing it

485
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Speaker 3: all play out before you go out there.

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Speaker 2: No, I live one pitch at a time, and I

487
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Speaker 2: have to live that way because I get so I

488
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: get so amped up in those moments. I'm not nervous person,

489
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: but I am a like, let's go person. Like roll

490
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Speaker 2: through a wall person, and I have to kind of

491
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: dial that back to like almost running into the wall

492
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Speaker 2: without running into the wall, and that that's kind of

493
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: where I was at in those moments, was like just

494
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 2: remembering and reminding myself that, which was lessons learned by

495
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Speaker 2: Chris Carpenter and Jason Isringhausen that we live one pitch

496
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Speaker 2: at a time, you know, and just all you can

497
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: control is the pitch that you're making execute one time,

498
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Speaker 2: just like Roy Halliday used to say over and over again,

499
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Speaker 2: we'd go one pitch at a time until they take

500
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Speaker 2: the ball from you at the end of the game

501
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Speaker 2: or when it's over. But I never I never worried

502
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Speaker 2: about what the outcome was going to be because I

503
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Speaker 2: couldn't control it. All I can control was was was

504
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Speaker 2: the result, Like was the effectiveness of the pitch that

505
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Speaker 2: I was making, you know, executing pitches is Doc would

506
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: always say, royality, man. I loved watching his interviews after

507
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: a game. It was so simple, like Roy, what'd you

508
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: think it? You know, on pitch seven hundred and twelve

509
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: of the season, you know, your fourth start, you've already

510
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: made four complete games, Like, tell me about it. He's

511
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Speaker 2: like I'll just executing pitches, you know. I mean there's

512
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: always like that, you know, And that's how Chris Carpenter was,

513
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Speaker 2: I just want to execute pitches. And that's how Roger

514
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Speaker 2: Clemens was. I was just going to execute a pitch,

515
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Speaker 2: you know. And that's and that at the end of

516
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Speaker 2: the day, we complicate things so much. Sometimes at the

517
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Speaker 2: end of the day, if a pitcher has the mindset

518
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Speaker 2: of I'm just going to go out and execute as

519
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Speaker 2: many pitches as I can in a row, one at

520
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Speaker 2: a time, usually the outcome is in the picture's favor.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, simple, Yeah, keep it simple, stupid, no doubt

522
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Speaker 1: about it. Here's a question that we got for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good at that you played for Team USA and

524
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three the WBC. How important was that? What

525
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Speaker 1: did that mean to you on a personal level to

526
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Speaker 1: do that?

527
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Speaker 2: Oh, it was incredible. It's probably and I think I

528
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Speaker 2: think I've heard this from almost everybody who's played on

529
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Speaker 2: that Team USA team the last two times through. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 2: it's probably the best baseball experience in my life. It's

531
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Speaker 2: just a different experience. When you got the country on

532
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Speaker 2: the on the front of the jersey. Uh, They're chanting

533
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Speaker 2: US A U S A. Uh. It's just uh, it

534
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: just doesn't get better than that. There's you're not playing

535
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Speaker 2: for money, you're playing for country. You're playing for the

536
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Speaker 2: love of the game, and you're playing to represent all

537
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Speaker 2: the kids that that came before you and behind you,

538
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Speaker 2: and and all those little kids in the stands that

539
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Speaker 2: got the USA wore paint on their face and and

540
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Speaker 2: their USA hats and jerseys on and it's just like,

541
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Speaker 2: that's that that hits you harder. It hits you harder

542
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Speaker 2: than and I love, I love with a deep passion

543
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Speaker 2: in Saint Louis Cardinals, but there was nothing like we're

544
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Speaker 2: in the USA on the jersey's.

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Speaker 1: So cool closed the World Series and the w b

546
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Speaker 1: C is the greatest experience that that says a lot.

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and and that's yeah too, and oh

548
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Speaker 2: by the way, no big deal. Sorry, but uh but

549
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: you know, also, I think about it like this, like

550
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: going to an All Star game where you're surrounded by

551
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: the best players in baseball and you're getting the rubbed

552
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Speaker 2: shoulders and talk to him. It's an incredible experience. For

553
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Speaker 2: like a day and a half, the WBC was an

554
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Speaker 2: incredible experience exactly like that for a whole month, right,

555
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Speaker 2: or three weeks or whatever it is. It's just every

556
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Speaker 2: day of guys who are are are are like minded

557
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Speaker 2: with you, who just want to win for country. They

558
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: don't care like all the contract stuff side the door,

559
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: like none of that matters. It's all, how can we

560
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: help this team win for our country? And Mark de Rosa,

561
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Speaker 2: and I know he cut some heat for you know,

562
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Speaker 2: some of the different things. He is the perfect manager

563
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Speaker 2: for that situation because he is the best at rallying

564
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: a group of dudes in a room that I've ever met.

565
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Speaker 2: He was my teammate at O nine. He is just

566
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Speaker 2: the best at that. He calls himself the pulse of

567
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: the team, you know, for a reason because he always was.

568
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean when as he would go in the in

569
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Speaker 2: the locker room, you know, you could be as dead

570
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: as a door nail in there, and he'd walk in

571
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Speaker 2: the room and everybody's all of a sudden, you know,

572
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Speaker 2: to win the d row voice and you're talking like

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Speaker 2: this and all.

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Speaker 8: Of a sudden, and and it's just, uh, you know,

575
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 8: he just is so good because and I'll tell you, like,

576
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 8: take strategy and everything else out because that that matters

577
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 8: to an extent, But you're talking about the best players

578
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Speaker 8: in the world.

579
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Speaker 2: These guys know how to play the game right. You

580
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Speaker 2: got to put him in the right situations for them

581
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: to succeed. But at the end of the day, how

582
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: can I motivate a group of guys who don't play

583
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: with each other all year, who were all stars, to

584
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: come together and be one for a couple of weeks?

585
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: And how do I do it right away? Because you've

586
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: got to win right away. If not, you go home

587
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: and everybody thinks you think so Uh, it's it's really

588
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: it's really kind of an awesome thing to be a

589
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Speaker 2: manager for that in that situation, he did a great job.

590
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Our first guest on the dirt from the dougot

591
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Speaker 1: was marked Russian.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good call. Good entertainment too, Hi he is, Yeah,

593
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Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: I want to get to the next question here way now,

595
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Speaker 3: because we have a bunch of them, and then I

596
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: have some some other questions for you personally too. But

597
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: let's let's throw up doms here. If you had one

598
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: bullpen session with every young picture watching will be the

599
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Speaker 3: biggest lesson you'd teach.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I think I think, uh most of the time

601
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Speaker 2: the things I'm teaching with with young pictures is like,

602
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Speaker 2: how can we simplify this? And it's kind of the

603
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: same thing as my thought process. It's like, most of

604
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: the time kids are trying to do too much right there,

605
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: their bodies are flowing all over the place, and in

606
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: some ways that's good, right if you can control it,

607
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: because you want some rhythm. Pitch is supposed to be

608
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: kind of like dancing, you know, you're not supposed to

609
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: be all stiff and robody. But like I always like,

610
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Speaker 2: one of my big things is how can we keep

611
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: our our head is still as possible through the delivery.

612
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: Russ Springer used to tell me he would you take

613
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Speaker 2: his chin towards the target. And now now with with

614
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Speaker 2: with especially with young pitchers who are and it's not

615
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: a it's not a necessarily a new thing. Young pictures

616
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: are always trying to develop velocity, always have, going back

617
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Speaker 2: since Taykob days, going back since cy Young days. They

618
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: pictures have always when they're little and they don't they're

619
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Speaker 2: not strong enough yet. They're they're pulling in there, pushing

620
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: in their heads, flying and all kinds of stuff. And

621
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day. You have to be

622
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: able to throw the ball quality wise over the plate

623
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Speaker 2: and get people out. That's what you have to do.

624
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: Uh So I'm usually with young players and new pictures.

625
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm usually trying to get them into a mold of

626
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: how can we control this delivery in some way? Don't

627
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: teach everybody the same because not everybody's the same. How

628
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: can I get this body in this head to be

629
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: still and controlled through the delivery as possible? And it

630
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: starts with your feet all the way up, like the

631
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: little things at the bottom. All that dictates what goes

632
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: on at the top. So it's usually those little those

633
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: little movements that help a pitcher succeed sixty feet away.

634
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Very good. That's an easy one to remember too, Mark

635
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: shuter Guard, the question for you is there one hitter

636
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: that you were excited about looking forward to the challenge

637
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: because it felt like this battle was going to be

638
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: a chess match. But poo Hools is the perfect example,

639
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: and he was your guy. So is there somebody you

640
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: faced where you thought I gotta I gotta outthink this

641
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: guy like Gwin somebody along that line.

642
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, a few guys come to mind, I mean, right away,

643
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: the first guy that I thought it was Chipper, just

644
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: because I grew up with Myron Chipper so much. You know,

645
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: we're my pants up in high school, in Little League

646
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: and all that. Because from nineteen ninety five on, Chipper

647
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: used to wear his pants up and then he poured

648
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: his pants down, and I'm like, no, I don't know

649
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: what to do. I thought you Chipper was the first

650
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Speaker 2: guy that came to mind, just because I mean, he's

651
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Speaker 2: one of the greatest hitters of all time, switch hitter,

652
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: but from the left side, really dangerous, just really really dangerous.

653
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: It could could hit a ball out to left center

654
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: on a fastball, and could pull a breaking ball right center.

655
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Speaker 2: You know that that kind of approach is always really tough. Yeah,

656
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Speaker 2: the Bryce Harper, Joey Vado, Freddie Freeman as somebody always

657
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: like they asked me, if anybody hits four hundred again,

658
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: who's it going to be? I say, Freddie Freeman every time.

659
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Speaker 2: He's just He's Freddie was probably the toughest toughest out,

660
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: maybe still is the toughest out ever because it's it's

661
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: he used to have a whole end, but then he

662
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Speaker 2: got rid of that and then he didn't have really

663
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Speaker 2: any holes. So you had to just be you had

664
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Speaker 2: to pitch really well. But Aramis Ramirez was the guy

665
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: that I could never get out until to his last

666
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: two years around and I couldn't get rid of him.

667
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: Pirates brewers, Yeah, cubs like dude, go to Seattle. Why

668
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: get out of here? I went. I went on a

669
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Speaker 2: mission trip to to the Dominican Republic. I went to

670
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Speaker 2: Escohito Baseball. The first guy saw there in the stands

671
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: was Aramis Ramirez. I said, get out of my life.

672
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Speaker 1: You've done enough damage enough.

673
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we know you brought up the missions trip.

674
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Speaker 1: Man.

675
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Speaker 3: I know that your faith is really important to you

676
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 3: and that's been a big part of your journey to it.

677
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: Can you share what that's meant to you in your

678
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Speaker 3: career and how you've grown in your faith and what

679
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Speaker 3: that means to you in your life.

680
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

681
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: And I take it real seriously that I was given

682
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: incredible platform, incredible stage to stand on for a long time,

683
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: chance to be a role model. I took that very seriously,

684
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: but also a chance to live out my faith authentically.

685
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: It's where people believed it, you know. That always mattered

686
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: to me to be able to compete in such a

687
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Speaker 2: way that my teammates go, yeah, this dude, he wants it,

688
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: he's getting after it. But also like competing in such

689
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Speaker 2: a way that the guys who played against me would

690
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: look at me and go, dang, it's gonna be tough, man,

691
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Speaker 2: But like full respect because I never wanted to intentionally

692
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Speaker 2: a few different reasons. I never wanted to intentionally like

693
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Speaker 2: call somebody out or or yell at somebody, not that

694
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking in my head sometimes, but but also

695
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: like I wanted them. I didn't want to, Like, I know,

696
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Speaker 2: if I was hitter and a picture yelled at me,

697
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, is that right? Okay? Like I

698
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: wanted to keep him on the other side of that fence.

699
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Speaker 2: I wanted to keep him like, oh, I like this dude. Man,

700
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: he's competing, he's grinding, but you know he's doing respect.

701
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: I like that, you know, which I always try to

702
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: do anyways. But I also didn't want to, like they

703
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: don't need any more motivation. I don't need billboard material

704
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: to fire somebody up. I'm perfectly good letting a sleeping

705
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Speaker 2: dog lie. But as far as the faith goes, there's

706
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Speaker 2: a way to live your life. I think that people go,

707
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: I want what that guy has. I believe, based off

708
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Speaker 2: the way he's living and talking and loving and hugging

709
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: and you know, picking people up and encouraging, I think

710
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: there's a way for us to live a life like that.

711
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Speaker 2: That that points to an authentic faith that people would want.

712
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's a good answer. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: You've sort of alluded to. I think you said Mallory Park.

733
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Speaker 1: Was that the little league field?

734
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Speaker 2: Yes?

735
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: You know, and you really you could tell that there

736
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: was something there, some emotion that that ballpark, that field,

737
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, brought to you. Maybe sometimes kids can't appreciate

738
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: it until they get to be much older. On the

739
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: impact of a field, of a little league field, of

740
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: a high school field. I sense that there was something there.

741
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: Can you share what it is about that place that

742
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: resonates with you?

743
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 2: Well, I remember, we just I mean, our little League

744
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: opening day has to be the coolest little League opening

745
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: day in the history of the world. Too. We start

746
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: down in the village where we live, down by the ocean,

747
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: and all the teams gather around. They all make special banners.

748
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: You walk down. When I was a kid, you walk

749
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: down the street and everybody lines the streets, which they

750
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: still do in chairs and cheering for everybody. I mean,

751
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: the whole town comes out. We live in a not

752
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: a giant town, but it's there's thousands of people out

753
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: there watching little league players walk down the street, League

754
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 2: softball and baseball players walk down the street. I feel

755
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: like a rock star. And then you get to the

756
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: field and there'd be baseball card trading tables where you'd

757
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: bring your cards and then somebody the trader would be

758
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: sitting there and go, all right, I'll give you a

759
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: Conseco rookie for a second year Kevin Mitchell card And

760
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: you're like, oh yeah, so I remember that stuff like

761
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: real vividly. It's also it was always like snow cones

762
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: when you got done with the game, and it was

763
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: just ways for you to love the game deeper. And

764
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: this year I took off. We plugged this and so

765
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: I don't run a better. This year I took off

766
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: all spring from calling games and music so that I

767
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: could be there for my little My little guy's seven,

768
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: he's playing eight U baseball. They got second in the state,

769
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: by the way, God so close. And then my ten

770
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: year old Sadie, she's playing she's playing all star level softball.

771
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: Really great. So I was coaching both their teams. And

772
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: I was at Mallory Park four or five nights a week,

773
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: every night, every week, and it was just best. And

774
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: on my next album, I got a song called Mallory

775
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: Park about it.

776
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: It's just so you wow.

777
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: So And I'm in the process where we're kind of

778
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: updating Mallory Park. We're reconfiguring some of the fields and

779
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: fixing the drainage and making it just special for for

780
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: the next generation too. But I think little league parks

781
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: have a way of doing that. You know, you yeah,

782
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: you look back, there's there's uh, there's still kids falling

783
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: in love with the game. There's still kids that will

784
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: there's grown ups that I think all of us probably

785
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: look back at our little league parks. What mine was

786
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Mallory Park. I don't know what y'alls were, but you

787
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: look back and you remember those sweaty nights playing spring

788
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: baseball and running to get a snow cone or an

789
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: icy or something afterwards, and you know, fall in love

790
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: with the girl in the stands on the side.

791
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Speaker 1: You know, there's an innocence about it. I mean, let's

792
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: be honest, that's what it is. And look, and we

793
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: talk about the litt League World Series and playing for

794
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: the name on the front of the uniform and not

795
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: the back. I mean that's a US A thing for

796
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: the WBC. But yeah, there's no question there. You know

797
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney sings about you know the lights on the field.

798
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean it it resonates with so many people.

799
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: Wait, when do we get to we get to hear

800
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: a little uh run on that that Mallory Park song

801
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: on this or no?

802
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 4: Are you gonna wait to wait on us on that one?

803
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: Oh? You gotta wait. I was just playing it for

804
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: my wife a few minutes ago. That man, I was

805
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: just in muscle shows recording two days ago. So we're

806
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: we're working on an album too. We'll be released in spring.

807
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about it. I can't wait.

808
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: That's awesome, man, So Revy, let's let's get to the

809
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: last question here.

810
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 4: I want to go to the last question here.

811
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: So, uh, this is a good one.

812
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a great one.

813
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: So uh, Adam, if BETHENI approached you the day before

814
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: I started and ask your thoughts about him calling up

815
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: you and Catcher from Memphis and getting.

816
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: YadA the day off, the next thing, I would have gone.

817
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: Man. You know, I don't know how many starts, I

818
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: have four hundred something. I don't know how many starts

819
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: I have, but Yady and I of three twenty eight,

820
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: so I have like one hundred starts, maybe that or

821
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: somebody else. I don't know how many starts I have

822
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: somebody else, but it's a couple of seasons worth, and

823
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: we'd have that record by a mile if a couple

824
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: of us had. He got injured a couple of times.

825
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: I got injured a couple of times. But I think

826
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: had that happened the last couple of years, the fans

827
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: would have revolted because that became That became a big

828
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: deal in Saint Louis, and it became a big deal

829
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: to me and Yachtie, and there was no way in

830
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: the world we were missing a start. The last two

831
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 2: seasons that he and I played together, we made every

832
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 2: start together, every single one, and there was a couple

833
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: of times where it was like, man, we got to

834
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: but it ain't feeling real good right now, you know.

835
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: So I just so blast. I always tell people they

836
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: asked me, like, what are you most proud of? I say,

837
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm most proud of us win in a few World

838
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 2: Series titles and get to play for the Saint Louis

839
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: Cardinals for my entire big league career. And the other

840
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: thing I always mention is that I got to play

841
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: catch with the best defensive catcher of all time. Nobody

842
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: could tuck me out of that.

843
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

844
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk a little bit about teammates and relationships,

845
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: because that does start at a very young age. I

846
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: probably impacted you with a little league level. You had

847
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: some historically great Hall of Fame type teammates. But as

848
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: you're watching your children go through this process, I'm curious

849
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: do you do you say, because you've already mentioned like

850
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: being a good teammate is really important, what are the characteristics,

851
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: the qualities, What would you like to see your children

852
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: and other children do to make themselves great teammates?

853
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I have three rules. When my kids get

854
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: out of the car, we say it before before they

855
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: get out every time before they start play. Hey, I

856
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: need everything. You got, best effort, right, that's number one.

857
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: Number two, we're going to be great teammates. That's it.

858
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: Like that, That is number two. Every time, we're gonna

859
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 2: be a great teammate. Pick them up when they're down,

860
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 2: you know, pad on the back, whatever it is fire

861
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: them up when they need firing up. But hey, we're

862
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna exist in that clubhouse, in that dugout

863
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: to make the person next to you and the team

864
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: next to you better. That's the rule number two and

865
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: number three. Did you have the most fun you could

866
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: ever have today? The most fun you could ever have today?

867
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: And that's that's what it is. That's what it's about. Right,

868
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: if you go out and have the most fun you

869
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: possibly can while being a great teammate and give me

870
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: everything you got. I can't ask anything else.

871
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: We'll clip that, we'll clip that off and send that out.

872
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: That that kind of nails it. Check check check yep, Adam,

873
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: Wayne right, just nailed it.

874
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

875
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Let's get to the kitchen sink here and get way

876
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: no to his ribs. I know that you don't want

877
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: to overcook those things when I know how that goes.

878
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: Do we like them rare?

879
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: Like?

880
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: How do we cook them? We don't over them? Fall off?

881
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: No? No, no, These are these are smokes so that

882
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: so that when you bite into them a proper rib,

883
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: it won't fall off the bone. Now I like a

884
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: fall off the bone rib too. Well, when are you

885
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: cooking a competition style rib. You bite it, you got

886
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: a bite mark on the rib. Uh, and it's it's

887
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: tender without being too tender. And it's just like and

888
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: I got the seasoning down. I've got some great teachers

889
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: that have taught me a lot. But you want that

890
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: bone to be about two oh six. You want that

891
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: the rib to be about uh two o six?

892
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: So guy, or it is just it's just my feeld thermometer. Guy.

893
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I got it down to a science

894
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: on these ribs. Yeah, I know what's two o six.

895
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: I know what's I feel. But you know, if I'm

896
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: using somebody else's smoker, or if I'm cooking on a

897
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: bigger thing than then you got to use the thermometer,

898
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: you know, just to make sure I can eyeball it

899
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: to an extent where I'm going Out's within one or

900
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 2: two for sure.

901
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: But that's hilarious. Are you the guy standing next to

902
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: the grill looking at somebody saying I might want to

903
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: take those off. I don't want to say anything but

904
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: that see you might wanna.

905
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I backseat drive a little bit when I'm watching something.

906
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: You're beautiful. All right, Let's get to the kitchen sink.

907
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: We digressed. That felt like the kitchen sink. But Adam,

908
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: these are questions that may not necessarily have to do

909
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: with baseball country music star. If not country, what's your

910
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: next favorite genre of music?

911
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: Nineties alternative rock?

912
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: Oh nice, man, give us a band there.

913
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: What would be a good.

914
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: I gotta I don't know if you can. Let me

915
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: see if I can turn this thing down a little

916
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: bit right there? Uh a little uhmaka yep ukulele there. Yeah.

917
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: Eddie Vedder. Eddie Vedder sent that to me. Oh wow, Okay,

918
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: when I retired, I'm I'm one of the biggest pro

919
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: Jam fans ever and there's a really great pro Jam fan.

920
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: But I think we're in the kitchen sink. These are

921
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: quick answers, right, yeah, there's.

922
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: Pretty quick, but I just just quick aside. So, how

923
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: did your deal with taking something from a diehard Cub

924
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: fan baseball fan? First way, know who you go? Or

925
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: you were able to just suck it up. Vetter's a

926
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: Cubs fan, but geez, that's Vetti. Vetter.

927
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, and he was like, hey, man, I really

928
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 9: wish you to play for the Cubs.

929
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: Good man, All right, let's go to the second one,

930
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: what is the most valuable thing a pitching coach has

931
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: ever told you on the mound.

932
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: On the mound, and.

933
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: You could say nothing, You could say I can never

934
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: really go That could be a I'll tell you one

935
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: thing that that sticks out to me right away.

936
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know exactly why. But

937
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: my first pitching coach in the big leagues was a

938
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: guy named Dave Duncan, who's a legendary pitching coach. And

939
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: and Dave was a was a catcher, so he wasn't

940
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: real savvy with mechanics and stuff. He had a Marty

941
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: Mason was our bullpen coach. He was more of the

942
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: mechanical guy. But Dave was a master game planner. And

943
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: Dave came out one time I was playing in San

944
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: Francisco and he came out and said, Hey, I don't

945
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: know how you got to do it, but if you

946
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: can get a ball down the way right here, you're

947
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: going to get ground ball to short, So let's freaking

948
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: do it. And just turn around and walked away. And

949
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: in that moment, when I thought about the answer to

950
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: your question, because there's probably much better answers to that question,

951
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: I'll have to think about it. But in that moment,

952
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: that was Okay, I'm a competitor. Let's go compete right here,

953
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: get a ball down the way, get ground ball to short.

954
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: The next bitch, I got a little cutter down the way,

955
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: I got ground ball to short. I was like, this

956
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: guy's smartest person ever lived. But you know, as I

957
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: walk off, as I look back on it now, it

958
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: was me in the moment believing, Okay, if I just

959
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: get a ball down away, could just win this competition

960
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: right here, this one competition, this next pitch, I'll get

961
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: a ground ball to short. And I did.

962
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Belief and trust is so important. I question number three.

963
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: You know the Halloween costume should become legendary and the

964
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: Wainwright household, who comes up with them? And when does

965
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: the planning start for all those.

966
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: Well, we all put our time in and appealing for

967
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: what we want to be. Ultimately, my wife has the

968
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: final say on that, but we every single person in

969
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: my family have five kids, and me and my wife

970
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: we always like we'll see something. We're like, hey, what

971
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: if we're the Flintstones this year? And there's other six

972
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: will go no, no, or or what about Star Wars?

973
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 2: And then three people go ooh, and then four people

974
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: will go no no, So like there's a there's a

975
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: weeding out process, and if you can get a majority,

976
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: usually that's pretty good indication where we're at it. And

977
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: then sometimes there's seven different opinions and my wife goes, okay,

978
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: I ordered all the costumes.

979
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Is what we're perfect?

980
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: Perfect?

981
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: All right, last one here, buddy, and then we'll get

982
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: to your MVP.

983
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: So if you stood in the box against Mace Miller

984
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: right now, would you make contact g a homer or laugh?

985
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: Laugh for sure that the first pitch, I'd be laughing

986
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: for sure. I will tell you that if I don't know,

987
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean his fastball one oh four is slider at

988
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: ninety whatever it is, that's the grossest slider ever. I

989
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: gotta I know one thing. I don't want to hit

990
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: the slider and I and that's not that I want

991
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: to hit one O four, but I dankster don't want

992
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: to hit ninety something sliding, you know. Business. So I'm

993
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: selling out like crazy and I'm either going to uh

994
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: which let's be honest, I'm going to be about ten

995
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: miles an hour or too late at first pitch three.

996
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: If he's still challenging me. I will be closer to

997
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: the fastball as long as it's going to be in

998
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: the exact spot that I want to swing and guests

999
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: on because that's what it's kind of what you have

1000
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: to do, right, you have to think, all right, I'm

1001
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 2: just gonna sit like middle away and just swing as

1002
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: hard as I can and hope that he throws it

1003
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: right where my barrel is because like, there's just not

1004
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: enough time. He's two months.

1005
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive, all right. Last night for us, laughing

1006
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: is always the best thing. Last one for us is

1007
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: the MVP question. It's not about the most valuable player,

1008
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: but it's really about the most valuable person in your

1009
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: life and whether it has to do with baseball or not.

1010
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a thoughtful guy, So who's been the

1011
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: most valuable person in your life?

1012
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean during different walks of life, that

1013
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: answer changes, right. Obviously, my mom, my mom, early on

1014
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: in my life, you know, raised me, no dad at home,

1015
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 2: two jobs, making sure she would have been the first answer.

1016
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: My brother teaching me pretty much everything how to be

1017
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: a man, it's the second answer. And since two thousand, no,

1018
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety nine, when I started dating my girlfriend

1019
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: Jenny Curry, and now she's Jenny Wayne Wright twenty eight

1020
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: years later. Twenty seven years later. She's been the most

1021
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: important life in the person in my life since then,

1022
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: so this whole th doesn't go without her. So different

1023
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: different answers for different stages of life, but you know,

1024
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: only got number one right now is is Jenny Wainwright.

1025
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 2: Man doesn't go anywhere past her.

1026
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: And Jenny's getting hungry, so let's get those ribs on

1027
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: the grill. Adam, thank you so much for being with us,

1028
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: so I really appreciate it. Man, you were a star. Outstanding.

1029
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you all very much for having me. A

1030
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: great show.