Speaker 1: And he texted me after the game and I just
Speaker 1: want to mind my language, but he was like, I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: but he's like, Hey, if we're going to get screwed
Speaker 1: again next week, I'll make sure to bring the lube.
Speaker 1: So that that was a Rex text message that I've
Speaker 1: saved because it was one like like what do you
Speaker 1: say to that? Like, okay, coach, yeah, bring it.
Speaker 2: Calm down with Erin and Chrissa is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3: The official title of Dean Glanbino, Fox College Football, Fox
Speaker 3: NFL Sunday Rules Expert. That's not the effect. Is that
Speaker 3: close enough?
Speaker 1: That it's close enough. Actually, I'm a master of ceremonies.
Speaker 1: On the on the A Crew Good New Kind of meetings,
Speaker 1: we did a whole whiteboard type breaking down all the scenarios,
Speaker 1: the week eighteen scenarios, and I'm happy to say that
Speaker 1: all of our predictions came true. Oh yes, eating, the seating,
Speaker 1: the matchups, everything except we didn't think we were going
Speaker 1: to get Green Bay Philly and we got Green Bay Philly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look at that is the gift that keeps on giving,
Speaker 2: and so is Dean Blandino. And with that, we welcome
Speaker 2: you to the Calm Down Podcast. Your inaugural appearance on
Speaker 2: the SAMED Calm Down Podcast.
Speaker 1: I mean everywhere we go there's Calm Down Podcast fans. Yes,
Speaker 1: we run into them. Just happened in Tampa, I mean
Speaker 1: literally just happened.
Speaker 3: So tell us the story of because again, Aaron and
Speaker 3: I would love to break our own arms patting ourselves
Speaker 3: on the back, but why don't you give us a
Speaker 3: little perspective of actually being out with you know, beatles,
Speaker 3: like kind of individuals like.
Speaker 1: It is Beatles, I mean, think of I try to
Speaker 1: think of the most. I mean, maybe it's like the
Speaker 1: boy band craze of the nineties. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: Backship and Sync ninety eight degrees all together in that
Speaker 1: if it's our bock. I mean we're sitting at the
Speaker 1: bar and these.
Speaker 2: We weren't sitting. We weren't sitting, we.
Speaker 1: Were we were kind of owned this one section of
Speaker 1: the bar, and Aaron was like, I mean it was great.
Speaker 1: She was on it when we walked in because we
Speaker 1: went to dinner. I got in late, met a group
Speaker 1: for dinner, and then we met Ea at the bar
Speaker 1: and she was already.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, Tampa brought it, and they don't.
Speaker 1: You don't have to ask me twice, So I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's go. And then it was just people watching. And
Speaker 1: then we had this group of girls that were big
Speaker 1: Calm Down fans taking pictures. Whoa there was, there were
Speaker 1: changing numbers, exchanging numbers. There was pop collar guy. We
Speaker 1: were giving people nicknames. There was Dave Canalis look alike guy.
Speaker 1: There was a lot. There was the guy that came
Speaker 1: up to Erin and he was a listener, but he said,
Speaker 1: you're not good at karaoke.
Speaker 2: You got, you got aggressive, you got I remediately.
Speaker 1: Got whoa whoa? Listen. If you got it, then you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to sing something. And we tried to get
Speaker 1: Jesse's girl played on the but the DJ wasn't having it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm gonna put a pin in that for
Speaker 3: one second. For those of you that are new to
Speaker 3: the Calm Down Podcast, first of all, we welcome you,
Speaker 3: but also, Aaron, I'd like you to explain Dean as
Speaker 3: I mentioned the rules analysts and expert for Fox Sports
Speaker 3: for all things, but explain what he does when he
Speaker 3: goes on the road and how that all works with
Speaker 3: your crew, because sometimes he's in studio across from the
Speaker 3: the glass little partition that him and I share on Sundays.
Speaker 3: And then sometimes he's not so explain for people that
Speaker 3: don't know why Dean goes on the road, what it's
Speaker 3: all about.
Speaker 2: This is your first year with us, right.
Speaker 1: Dean, first year? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow, so memorable. And as I was getting ready to
Speaker 2: come on today, I was already like, Mike's gonna be
Speaker 2: so pissed when he finds out they pissed immediately. We
Speaker 2: love you, Mike, We love you so much. Mike Perera
Speaker 2: normally comes out with our crew and he is up
Speaker 2: there in the booth. He used to be with Joe
Speaker 2: and Troy now and then Greg and Kevin and now
Speaker 2: with Tom and Kevin and basically Dean, you are there
Speaker 2: for the exact reason that we saw yesterday during that
Speaker 2: drive that the Bucks had. There is problems like you know,
Speaker 2: if there's a question with a call, if you know,
Speaker 2: we want to get your opinion on the call, if
Speaker 2: you know what really should happen, I'll let you kind
Speaker 2: of elaborate more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there. I'm there, and I can talk to
Speaker 1: our producer, Richie's Aiens directly. I can talk to Kevin,
Speaker 1: Burt Carter, Tom Brady directly, and it's just.
Speaker 2: You don't talk to New York though, right, I do
Speaker 2: not talk to New York now texting with New York.
Speaker 1: They can text me, Yeah, they'll text me different things.
Speaker 1: So if something comes up, I can get in their ear.
Speaker 1: I can give them okay, here's the relevant rule or
Speaker 1: what my opinion is. And then if it's big enough, they'll,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll go on the air. And like we
Speaker 1: did yes in the game in Tampa where they had
Speaker 1: a penalty enforcement, it was taking forever and Bray, Tom
Speaker 1: and Kevin were talking about their holiday plans while the
Speaker 1: officials were trying to figure it out. It was legitimately
Speaker 1: like four minutes. Ye, but it's like that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff that and then then when I'm in the studio,
Speaker 1: like Chrissa was saying, we're doing the other games. So
Speaker 1: you're only doing one game when you're on the road,
Speaker 1: and then you're doing the others when you're in.
Speaker 2: The studio and team because I'm not with you in studio, sorry, CT,
Speaker 2: how do you keep track of everything that's going on?
Speaker 2: So literally, Dean will come on in how many games
Speaker 2: do we have CHRISA going on at one time.
Speaker 3: Depends, Like yesterday there was four early games and three
Speaker 3: late games, so just depends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and so yeah, three or four and you're
Speaker 1: we have a big monitor wall and we're watching all
Speaker 1: the games. I have access to all the games. I
Speaker 1: can jump to anyone. I can talk to the producers
Speaker 1: in the truck and uh yeah, it's just and we
Speaker 1: have a couple of people in there that are monitoring
Speaker 1: things and pointing things out, and you just kind of
Speaker 1: bounce around. But I'm used to it. When I was
Speaker 1: at the League office, I mean we had we could
Speaker 1: have ten or eleven games going on, so so you're
Speaker 1: used to it.
Speaker 2: And that's what I want. I want to go back
Speaker 2: because I would love for It's fascinating to me. And
Speaker 2: this is where Fox is so innovative because they were
Speaker 2: the first ever broadcast network to bring an official into
Speaker 2: the broadcast. Because there's so many times that you know,
Speaker 2: the play by player analysts, you know, color commentator doesn't
Speaker 2: want to make assumptions about things. So to bring in
Speaker 2: an analyst, a rules analyst was so smart and now
Speaker 2: you see every network do it. So Fox being the
Speaker 2: first to do that give us a little background, Dean,
Speaker 2: and because I don't know all the details either, how
Speaker 2: did you get into the business, why did you want
Speaker 2: to get into the business, and how you are here
Speaker 2: present day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my path was different unique. I didn't have an
Speaker 1: officiating background. I didn't I didn't do it. I didn't
Speaker 1: have any interest in it. I just loved sports. I
Speaker 1: played sports my whole life. And I grew up in
Speaker 1: New York. I went to school in New York. The
Speaker 1: NFL has their offices in New York, and I just
Speaker 1: sent my resume. Wow, major League Baseball and NHL and
Speaker 1: NFL and NBA, and the NFL happened to call and
Speaker 1: they had a bunch of internships, and I was lucky
Speaker 1: enough to go interview a couple of different departments, and
Speaker 1: I interviewed in officiating and they liked me and they
Speaker 1: offered me the position. And I just went from there and.
Speaker 2: Just learned what wasn'tating.
Speaker 1: I was an officiating intern. I was doing everything anything, stats, video.
Speaker 1: I was picking up Mike Pereira, who was the head
Speaker 1: of officiating, not at that time, but his predecessor, Jerry Seaman.
Speaker 1: I was picking him up at the airport, you know,
Speaker 1: just whatever and anything you had to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you didn't love officiating, but you then
Speaker 3: became immersed in it with the internship and you were like, hey,
Speaker 3: maybe I could make this into a career.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just started to really learn about it. And
Speaker 1: then really the big break for me, and I was
Speaker 1: so lucky and so blessed to be in the right
Speaker 1: place at the right time, was when instant replay came
Speaker 1: back to the NFL in nineteen ninety nine, and I
Speaker 1: was heavily involved in that process, both on the technical
Speaker 1: side and the software and hardware and all that, and
Speaker 1: then on the rules side, and that really it took
Speaker 1: off from there. So I was really lucky.
Speaker 2: Cool is So I was telling you before you got
Speaker 2: on Dean just Mike Tomlin and how excited he was
Speaker 2: to see you could have cared less about all of us.
Speaker 2: Just kidding, but I thought it was fascinating. Did you
Speaker 2: watch the clip I sent you?
Speaker 1: I did, I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so great. But he was just talking
Speaker 2: about how you guys had a fantastic relationship when he
Speaker 2: was young and starting out, and can you just tell
Speaker 2: us stories like that, like what happened when you finally
Speaker 2: you know, got to be involved and then got to
Speaker 2: have like one on one relationships with guys like Tomlin
Speaker 2: which are legendary and other guys your friends.
Speaker 1: With no doubt, and that was it was. I always
Speaker 1: felt like it was building those relationships. Always not officiating
Speaker 1: is not a positive thing. When a coach is calling you,
Speaker 1: he's not like, yeah, they did a great job. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's always bad. And I always thought I
Speaker 1: gotta have good relationships because then at least if we
Speaker 1: have a good relationship that listen, we can get to
Speaker 1: some common ground. And always built those relationships. Sometimes maybe
Speaker 1: I went a little too far with some of those
Speaker 1: relationships and was on a party bus at one point, but.
Speaker 2: Okay, the ones we want to hear about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I blamed Glazer for that one. But guys
Speaker 1: like Mike Tomlin, who was on the competition committee, I
Speaker 1: told this story. I don't know who I was telling
Speaker 1: the other day. But when I was up for the
Speaker 1: job the head of officiating, it was always like an unspeaking,
Speaker 1: unspoken rule that because I never officiated on the field,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get that job. And I was like, you
Speaker 1: know whatever, I'm going to go for it. And I interviewed,
Speaker 1: and I got pretty close to the end and they
Speaker 1: were going to decide between me and one other person.
Speaker 1: I remember being in Indianapolis at the Combine and everybody's
Speaker 1: you know, hanging out. We were at you know whatever
Speaker 1: Prime almost.
Speaker 2: I just remember Conrad.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and I remember Mike pulling me aside Mike Tomlin
Speaker 1: and like giving me this pep talk like you're the guy,
Speaker 1: you you have the most experience, you have the most
Speaker 1: and I just was like I was ready to go
Speaker 1: run through a wall after that, and he's exactly. I
Speaker 1: was like, give I actually after that, I was like,
Speaker 1: give me some more of that cocktail sauce. Let's go.
Speaker 1: And but yeah, he's awesome. He is awesome. Love that guy.
Speaker 2: That's great. But go ahead, ct No, no, no, you go.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, like, when you think about
Speaker 2: like your memories of doing it, I don't worry. We're
Speaker 2: going to get into Jared's hint tender page and all
Speaker 2: that crap in a minute. Yeah, but yeah, we'll get there.
Speaker 2: But just some of your favorite moments of the jo
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So many. There are so many coaches that I really
Speaker 1: there isn't a coach and people ask me who was
Speaker 1: the biggest pain in the ass, and they were always
Speaker 1: they're just there. They're head coaches. There's so much on
Speaker 1: the line for them. It's emotional. So I would always
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, I remember Tom Coughlin like letting
Speaker 1: me have it. They lost a game to the Patriots.
Speaker 1: It was a regular season game. There was a big
Speaker 1: hold that we missed on the field, and he called
Speaker 1: me after the game and let me have it for
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes straight. And his assistant texted me like, hey,
Speaker 1: don't take it personally. I get this like three times
Speaker 1: a week. So guys like that. And then you have
Speaker 1: like Ron Rivera's who's one of my favorites, who I
Speaker 1: remember meeting his wife for the first time and she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're higher than me on the favorites list
Speaker 1: in his phone, like you just so it's like those guys,
Speaker 1: and I did. I told the story about Rex Ryan
Speaker 1: to the guys on the crew because you know, now
Speaker 1: he's interviewing for the Jets job. And I said, you
Speaker 1: know when when the first time he was with the Jets,
Speaker 1: he he it was a week one game and we
Speaker 1: had like twenty penalties on the Jets and they lost
Speaker 1: and some of them, some of them weren't great calls.
Speaker 1: And he texted me after the game, and I just
Speaker 1: want to mind my language, but he was like I'm PARAPHRASINGBO.
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, if we're going to get screwed again
Speaker 1: next week, I'll make sure to bring the loop. So
Speaker 1: that that was a Rex text message that I've saved
Speaker 1: because it was one like like, what do you say
Speaker 1: to that, Like, okay, coach, yeah, bring it.
Speaker 2: I wish I did the like button thumbs out, okay,
Speaker 2: got fireworks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You don't have to have such a good personality and
Speaker 2: sense of humor to take just the berating every single
Speaker 2: but that's actually a really good mindset to have. Like
Speaker 2: jobs are on the line, you know, lives are. It's
Speaker 2: just where you maybe you know, raise your kids because
Speaker 2: you could get fired and things like that. Hardest part
Speaker 2: of the gig that people don't understand.
Speaker 1: Hardest part I just I just think there's such a disconnect.
Speaker 1: There's a disconnect between how the game's officiated on the field,
Speaker 1: Like those officials get one look at it at full
Speaker 1: speed from their one angle, and then how do we
Speaker 1: get to judge them? Six different slow motion replays and
Speaker 1: super and so we sit there and we go, how
Speaker 1: did they miss that? We'll go out and you've both
Speaker 1: like you've done it more than most You've been on
Speaker 1: the sideline of NFL games. How fast is it? How
Speaker 1: how much taking place? And there's only seven officials for
Speaker 1: twenty two players. And I think that's the disconnect sometimes
Speaker 1: with officiating. And yeah, sometimes they screw it up and
Speaker 1: they've got to be better, But I just think sometimes
Speaker 1: it's an unreasonable standard that we that we kind of
Speaker 1: hold them to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron and I always talk about pinch me moments
Speaker 2: right in our career. Are things that we've done or
Speaker 2: people that we've met, or you know, standing on the
Speaker 2: sideline of the David Tyree catch on the Hilmet and
Speaker 2: you're like watching Randy Moss walk off the field before
Speaker 2: the game's even over because he knows it's done. It's
Speaker 2: just like these moments where you grow up as sports fans,
Speaker 2: you obviously yourself and played sports and having a front
Speaker 2: row seat to all of these things, what's been You
Speaker 2: have a myriad of them. I'm sure a real pinch
Speaker 2: me moment where you're like, this is fucking cool.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I remember.
Speaker 2: Ray in Tampa last night that too.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was that? What a great find
Speaker 1: if you're in well that terminal? What is that a terminal?
Speaker 1: A Tampa Tampa International? Pay a May that is way
Speaker 1: May Pay May Pay Way. It is away hidden gem
Speaker 1: in the back kid in gem.
Speaker 2: What are you hold the lighter up for? Over there?
Speaker 1: We are?
Speaker 2: Oh, but pinch me moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do funny story about the David Tyree catch.
Speaker 1: I was in the replay booth for that. And you
Speaker 1: know you're in, you're working, You're in the replay booth.
Speaker 1: It's Patriots Giants, Patriots trying to be the greatest team ever.
Speaker 1: And I know and my mom, who's the most unintentionally
Speaker 1: funny person on the planet, like she knows I'm working,
Speaker 1: don't call me during the game unless it's an emergency.
Speaker 1: So that play happens. We're actually reviewing it and I
Speaker 1: see my phone. I have it on the counter and
Speaker 1: it's my mom and I'm like what And I don't
Speaker 1: answer it, and then she calls back and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, what what is going on? So we review
Speaker 1: the play and she calls a time and I finally
Speaker 1: pick up. I'm like, Mom, it's the Super Bowl. What's
Speaker 1: going on? She goes, did you see that catch? All right, Mom,
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you after the game. Bye. It was amazing, amazing, Yeah, unbelieved,
Speaker 1: so good, so many Kinchby moments. We're so lucky. We
Speaker 1: really are.
Speaker 2: We are lucky, and we are so lucky for the
Speaker 2: friendships and the families that we create on the road.
Speaker 2: Because as much as we complained, like whatever, we stay
Speaker 2: in great hotels. Last night we got off a flight, Chrissy,
Speaker 2: you know it five and a half hours from Tampa.
Speaker 2: I mean, we are still carrying the sweat and the
Speaker 2: crap that we had when we were on the field
Speaker 2: at eleven am. It's a long ass flight. You're on
Speaker 2: the tarmac, everyone's coffin snort and they're snot and we
Speaker 2: just got off the plane. We're like, fuck, that was long.
Speaker 2: But we still were laughing because it's Kevin me Dean
Speaker 2: to get each other so much, and we're.
Speaker 1: Back each other. Yeah, we're like, and we couldn't. We didn't.
Speaker 1: We weren't sitting together, but we were texting each other.
Speaker 1: And then we land and the pilot who was the pilot,
Speaker 1: that guy was when we because it was our flight
Speaker 1: was delayed, and he's like, I know, our flight's delayed,
Speaker 1: but we got this baby filled up with gas and
Speaker 1: to the metal. And I was like, this guy is
Speaker 1: definitely not a nibbler.
Speaker 2: Not a nibbler.
Speaker 1: He is not he is he is not. And but yeah,
Speaker 1: on the tarmac and there was a delay, we didn't
Speaker 1: have a gate and all this stuff, and and KB
Speaker 1: was like, get me off this plane, like yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 2: And the friendships of the cruise and stuff, which is
Speaker 2: the best part, and like, yeah, like the other night
Speaker 2: we got on this before you got on and our
Speaker 2: producer and Crisic, so how did this come about? It
Speaker 2: go Tampa brought it. We were lit and Dean was like,
Speaker 2: I want to be on calm down, and I was like,
Speaker 2: let's freaking.
Speaker 1: Go, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2: So we go ahead.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I just say we were on one and
Speaker 1: it was so much fun. But I cannot I cannot
Speaker 1: emphasize enough. This has been my most fun season by far.
Speaker 1: And I love this duty with us, and I love
Speaker 1: the studio and Christinos. Everybody in the studio is awesome.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of fun. But being able to
Speaker 1: do both. This year was so much fun.
Speaker 2: That's what. So people always ask me, oh, what do
Speaker 2: you like better?
Speaker 3: Do you like being in studio or being on the road,
Speaker 3: And my answer is always like, thank God, I'm lucky
Speaker 3: enough to do both, because there's benefits of the studio.
Speaker 3: You get in your car, you drive up the ten
Speaker 3: or whatever, the four or five, you go to work,
Speaker 3: you're not on a plane, you get back home.
Speaker 2: Cool being on the road, the stories that come from
Speaker 2: the road, the Shenanigans, all that stuff. So like having
Speaker 2: the hybrid of both like is the best case scenario.
Speaker 2: Which gets me to Jared Klein, who used to be
Speaker 2: my researcher, jaredy Cline.
Speaker 1: I love that we're just by name now Jared's ou
Speaker 1: We're not we're talking about Jared look kind of taking
Speaker 1: him under my wing.
Speaker 2: He has Jared taking him under my wing.
Speaker 3: If you want to be a big boy and be
Speaker 3: parading around the stadiums, whatever, you also have to recognize
Speaker 3: that part of the locker room is giving each other shit.
Speaker 3: So sure Line used to be my researcher, sitting next
Speaker 3: to me for down and distance, different things that I
Speaker 3: would need for a highlight.
Speaker 2: Got it. This is the fourth touchdown of the day.
Speaker 3: This is you know, Aaron Rodgers spotfit whatever, whatever pertinent
Speaker 3: information I need for a highlight.
Speaker 2: Jared did that.
Speaker 3: Well, Jarrett's very good at his job. So you guys
Speaker 3: stole him and now he's on the road with you guys. Okay,
Speaker 3: no problem, but Jarrett. My long history with Jarrett is
Speaker 3: he's been looking for a lady for a while. Okay,
Speaker 3: He's always talking about how he can't find the right one. So,
Speaker 3: unbeknownst to me, Aaron is choosing to keep him anonymous.
Speaker 3: And again I don't know that she's talking about Jarrett.
Speaker 3: Last week when it.
Speaker 2: Whatever hinge profiles brought.
Speaker 3: Up and she's like, there's this guy hinge Da da da,
Speaker 3: And as she's talking, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I fucking know who this guy is.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's Jared Cline. I was like, let's
Speaker 3: just call okay the dog picture the shirtless one. For
Speaker 3: those of you that didn't listen to last week's episode, again,
Speaker 3: we'll fill you in. We have a thing about hinge
Speaker 3: profiles or any profile when dating. Just take your sunglasses off,
Speaker 3: don't be shirtless in a pooled, don't be a douchebag
Speaker 3: with your arm around an athlete.
Speaker 2: Just be normal. Okay, Dean was playing photographer at our game.
Speaker 1: This was taking pictures of him before the game or
Speaker 1: his hinge profile because we're doing a total overhaul, Like
Speaker 1: I don't need stop with the because again, these are
Speaker 1: not these are not organic.
Speaker 3: Shots, yes exactly. So I'm just filling in the blanks
Speaker 3: for anyone that's not familiar with what happened. So that's
Speaker 3: Jerrick Kleine. We all love him. We want to see
Speaker 3: him with a woman. He's actually gotten some inquiry. But now, Dean,
Speaker 3: take us where are we at currently with Jerick Leine?
Speaker 3: In the profile and the up.
Speaker 1: This was, I mean it came out of the blue.
Speaker 1: We were at dinner, I think in Green Bay, and
Speaker 1: he just talked about TMI. He just went all in
Speaker 1: on his dating life and this one young lady that
Speaker 1: he was dating and they you know, it was like
Speaker 1: the fifth date and he thought things were going really well.
Speaker 2: But oh god, she's listening to the podcast right now
Speaker 2: breaking down Tom's seven Super Bowl ring and then this
Speaker 2: side of the table is fucking roaring and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: great on the goat over here, what's going on exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Tom on one side and we're talking
Speaker 1: about football and we're talking about, hey, what about between
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, what did Belichick do? And then
Speaker 1: on this side we've got Jared talking about this girl
Speaker 1: that he's dating and how they both they both really
Speaker 1: like the butter cream cake from Ralph's and he got
Speaker 1: her the cake and it was like two very different conversations.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie, the butter cream conversation was
Speaker 1: more interesting to me. Yeah, and he just you know,
Speaker 1: and then things didn't work out with that young lady.
Speaker 1: And now we're just back on the horse and we're
Speaker 1: just trying to get you know, we got to give
Speaker 1: in a file together. We got us, you know, get
Speaker 1: some good pictures we got We even went and went
Speaker 1: through like sayings for his his his pictures, and so
Speaker 1: we're hoping, we're hoping that we can find love, we
Speaker 1: can find.
Speaker 2: Jason because I'm not done with this, because I'm all
Speaker 2: in on this as well. So Aaron and I talked
Speaker 2: about how we don't like the you're in the pool,
Speaker 2: the shirt list whatever, or you're next to a dog.
Speaker 2: You don't even have a dog. Somebody else's yeah, so
Speaker 2: what what are your like the guys you know perspective
Speaker 2: on another, like what what are your good advice to him?
Speaker 1: For me? And I'm I've been my own experience, like
Speaker 1: my original before I got married. Before it wasn't dating
Speaker 1: apps like you, you had to risk something so I
Speaker 1: have to go up to you in a bar or
Speaker 1: wherever it is. And now it's just like so I
Speaker 1: don't like all that, but I realize that that's how
Speaker 1: today is and that's how people meet each other. And
Speaker 1: I just think it's just like be yourself, Like you know,
Speaker 1: I get it. There's there's there's physical attraction and you
Speaker 1: have to put your best foot forward because that's what
Speaker 1: people are going to see. But you don't need to
Speaker 1: try that hard. Like we don't need to have the
Speaker 1: glamor shots and the and the you know, the wait,
Speaker 1: the shirtless shots. I mean, even if you look like
Speaker 1: you know whoever, you don't need the shirtless shot.
Speaker 2: It's not you know, it's so great, you know, it's
Speaker 2: so great about your Dean.
Speaker 3: So if you don't know Dean, you're just like, oh,
Speaker 3: it seems like you know, so like oserved and like.
Speaker 2: Not yeah, button up like whatever.
Speaker 3: When you get to know Dean, You're like, this guy
Speaker 3: is fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. I don't. I don't open
Speaker 1: up very quickly, and I like to observe and I
Speaker 1: like to just once once we're in, then it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: no holds.
Speaker 2: Bar, wheels off, let's go.
Speaker 1: In the bar in Tampa. Getting lippy and we got
Speaker 1: to move to the next bar.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I caught myself. I look, I said, I'm
Speaker 2: getting lippy.
Speaker 1: We need to get out.
Speaker 2: I caught myself when.
Speaker 1: People were walking by us and she's like pointing it
Speaker 1: like this guy. I'm like, oh boy boy, here we go.
Speaker 2: The only time I got upset was we had an area,
Speaker 2: We had an area, we had been there for a while,
Speaker 2: and then like, you know, I like to watch what's
Speaker 2: going on. And there are some younger women, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to get close to the Dave Canalis look alike
Speaker 2: or the Paul mal Moro look alike that we had
Speaker 2: at the bar, and so I liked watching their moves.
Speaker 2: And their moves were come lean up against the chair
Speaker 2: that had my coat and my purse on it. Casey
Speaker 2: and Dean were sitting by then we're one cheek on.
Speaker 2: Then we're one cheek on with our cocktail laughing. Now
Speaker 2: mid laugh, we're two cheeks on and we're sitting on
Speaker 2: my coat and my purse.
Speaker 1: Lippy.
Speaker 2: Carissa, after you've had a few, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Oh hey, hey, let me move this for you, because
Speaker 2: you're asking. I already know what this is.
Speaker 3: The problem is that we, by the way, we need
Speaker 3: a rules analyst between you and I when we go
Speaker 3: out Giallo.
Speaker 2: And besides encroachment, we also had a very fun dinner
Speaker 2: at a place that gronk I guess hat the money
Speaker 2: in which I yeah, it was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Let's give a shout out to Broke a great food.
Speaker 1: But we have this fun little you know, we're twelve
Speaker 1: of us and so.
Speaker 2: You can't give out names.
Speaker 1: Who can't give out, won't give it, can no, we
Speaker 1: won't give out names.
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at people differently now in one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So the fun game was if you could be a person,
Speaker 1: any person for the day, who would you be and why?
Speaker 1: So like that's fun. We're all drinking, like read the
Speaker 1: room people, but somebody did you? I loved you? I
Speaker 1: said you hefner great because I'm a degenerate, but anyway,
Speaker 1: so so. But some of the answers were, well, one, well,
Speaker 1: we can call out Jared because this is this is
Speaker 1: kind of harmless.
Speaker 2: Jared, it's getting so much play right your hair?
Speaker 1: You say, you saying both?
Speaker 2: What a loser? But I was like, by.
Speaker 1: Like you say both on a regular Tuesday, Like what
Speaker 1: are you getting out? Like maybe during the Olympics. But
Speaker 1: he was like, it was so cool to be the
Speaker 1: fastest man in the world. And I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: like you've got to like, yes, if you're in a race,
Speaker 1: but what does you saying both get you on a
Speaker 1: Thursday at three o'clock at the supermarket, Like you're he
Speaker 1: and I are on the same footing in that in
Speaker 1: that mode. But there was some very disturbing answers.
Speaker 2: Like I cannot look at some people this.
Speaker 1: There was one that said that I would be a
Speaker 1: young child because I could see the world the wonder
Speaker 1: of the world again. And my response really can't be repeated,
Speaker 1: but I yelled and it was not complimentary of what
Speaker 1: that of what that was. And then another a guy
Speaker 1: on her crew, said his wife and I thought, I
Speaker 1: immediately looked at Kevin at KB I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a badass answer because his wife is so lucky
Speaker 1: to be married to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: That's what we all thought. That's what we all thought.
Speaker 1: But then he explained that no, so then I can
Speaker 1: understand her feelings and where she's coming from, and I
Speaker 1: can understand her. But which which if it was just heated,
Speaker 1: if it was me and him at the bar, like
Speaker 1: talking about life and feelings, great, great answer. This was
Speaker 1: not the it was not the room. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I also showed up at this stadium and I love
Speaker 2: this guy, but I'm judging back now.
Speaker 1: Love him, love him back, love him.
Speaker 2: But I'm judging him now. And when I got to
Speaker 2: the stadium, he goes, ea, I'm doubling down on what
Speaker 2: I said. I was like, you can't, you cannot.
Speaker 1: It was it was there was some answers. Another guy
Speaker 1: in our crew, and this one's harmless Nelly. He wanted
Speaker 1: to be president for the United States. But she had
Speaker 1: given this some thought because he went through some of
Speaker 1: his policies and some like real like thoughtful went into it,
Speaker 1: like with tax reform and all these things. It was
Speaker 1: imperform was really impressive, and my stupid ass is like you.
Speaker 2: Have to and it was just and Jillian goes Dolly Park.
Speaker 3: It's fine, Yes, yeah, it was. That's a reallyef That
Speaker 3: is a very fun game. Another one that I've done
Speaker 3: before is like what animal would you be? And you
Speaker 3: really discover like people like I want to be a laboratory.
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, you like relax, you know, like I.
Speaker 2: Want to be the lion of the jungle. Okay, So
Speaker 2: turning it back real quickly to the NFL for a second,
Speaker 2: because we'd be remissed since we have you on it
Speaker 2: is week eighteens over the playoff schedule set you alluded
Speaker 2: to at the beginning of this. You had all the scenarios,
Speaker 2: so you had the whole bracket, right, I mean, walk.
Speaker 1: Me through the NFC because we knew that we'd have
Speaker 1: an NFC game, So we did the NFC. Okay, did
Speaker 1: the NFC.
Speaker 3: So then we'll go over to the AFC for a second.
Speaker 3: Can you have an opinion on who you think is?
Speaker 3: I'm probably not you can't, right, I love this, Okay, great?
Speaker 3: Who do you like?
Speaker 1: Who I like? See, well, it's really hard to go
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. It's really hard to go against Mahomes,
Speaker 1: They're just it's it's just they find a way and
Speaker 1: look at you look at last year and they weren't
Speaker 1: playing very well in the middle of the middle of
Speaker 1: the way, and then they just turned it on and
Speaker 1: they go and win another Super Bowl. Now they're they're
Speaker 1: fifteen and one. They've got to buy It's really hard
Speaker 1: to bet against them. In my heart, I know the
Speaker 1: matchup I want to see as a football fan, and
Speaker 1: that's Bill's Lions. I just think that two fan bases
Speaker 1: that have never won a Super Bowl, that are two
Speaker 1: of probably the greatest fan bases. I would love to
Speaker 1: see that. I don't know, it's just tough to bet
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs in the AFC. I think it's crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just really I think the Bills and
Speaker 1: maybe the Ravens could could could give them a run
Speaker 1: for their money. I'm just not sure. I just hate
Speaker 1: to go against Mahomes and Andy I love. It's just tough.
Speaker 2: Is there a thought process out there, you guys that
Speaker 2: if a team in the AFC were to beat the
Speaker 2: Chiefs and go on to the Super Bowl, they would
Speaker 2: be the ones to win the Super Bowl because you
Speaker 2: already just beat the hardest you know out out there.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's the super Bowl,
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship against the Chiefs. But if like they
Speaker 2: win it, it's like, how could you stop the Omnum?
Speaker 1: Of course you.
Speaker 2: Could, but I would say too, I love the you know,
Speaker 2: of course we all love Josh Allen. We love the
Speaker 2: Bill's mafia. Like it's so easy to root for them,
Speaker 2: like you mentioned their fan base. Yeah, I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: this right now.
Speaker 3: Though again we know him because you know, I had
Speaker 3: pledge we worked with him at Fox Sean Payton watch
Speaker 3: out though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just that defense.
Speaker 3: And you've got a guy like bo Nix who doesn't
Speaker 3: know I mean, he just has this unbridled confidence where
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know. I just think that that
Speaker 3: could be a potential upset, even going into Buffalo and sure,
Speaker 3: you know the Uels are supposed.
Speaker 2: To win, and you know the Broncos just got it.
Speaker 2: I just I'm really curious to see how that one
Speaker 2: plays out. It's what we saw last year, the wild card,
Speaker 2: you know, Dallas Green beads, Like you could just feel
Speaker 2: how tight Dallas was. You could sense they're supposed to
Speaker 2: have was like the guy that was just like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna sling it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's like any given Sunday, and yeah, you know
Speaker 1: we could sit here and predict, but who knows. But yeah, Denver,
Speaker 1: I mean there were all any somebody has a bad
Speaker 1: day injuries.
Speaker 2: Even what we saw last night with the Lions.
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, oh, you got fourteen guys on the defensive
Speaker 3: side of the ball that are on ir like whatever,
Speaker 3: and they showed up last night against the Vikings.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is why we love the NFL. What's
Speaker 2: your favorite thing about the league?
Speaker 1: I love that favorite thing about the league. I just
Speaker 1: think because I do. I think it brings people together.
Speaker 1: It really does, like I think because it's unlike any
Speaker 1: other sport, and I love you know, I grew up
Speaker 1: playing like baseball and hockey were my two sports, Like
Speaker 1: like I always love football too, but but that's like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's more games. There's there's three or four
Speaker 1: games a week. Baseball it's like five or six games
Speaker 1: a week, where football is like it's appointments viewing. It's Sunday,
Speaker 1: we're all going to get together. I know now we
Speaker 1: do Thursday and Monday and Saturday, but it's really still like,
Speaker 1: I just think it brings people together, because if we
Speaker 1: were on the road doing four or five games a week,
Speaker 1: like I mean, there's some people on the crew I
Speaker 1: might not like as much. You know, it's it's me, Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm the problem.
Speaker 1: I just love that. I love that, and I know
Speaker 1: it sounds corny, but they it is. It really does
Speaker 1: bring people together, and it's been it's I think it's
Speaker 1: that's why it's the most popular sport by a long
Speaker 1: shot in this country.
Speaker 2: How freaking fun is it still, Dean? Even though you
Speaker 2: and Kevin and I are so awkward because everybody just
Speaker 2: wants to talk to Brady and see Brady, So the
Speaker 2: three of us go off on our own and do
Speaker 2: our own thing. But how fun is that still? To
Speaker 2: be on a field like we're on a freaking football
Speaker 2: field for pre game like this is insane.
Speaker 1: It's wild and that people, And that's that's like you
Speaker 1: talk about pinch me or just or just never forgetting
Speaker 1: that that you don't take it for granted because how
Speaker 1: many people, how many millions and millions of people would
Speaker 1: give anything just to be on a field pre game, right,
Speaker 1: and we get to do it all the time, and
Speaker 1: that's where for me, it's like, don't ever take that
Speaker 1: for granted. You never know when it can be taken away.
Speaker 1: And it's just so cool. And and this year with
Speaker 1: Tom has been great because you really see I mean
Speaker 1: he is a rock star, right and and and you
Speaker 1: see the passion you see and it's it's it's been
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And yeah, we kind of stand back.
Speaker 1: I like joke, I'm an extra security guy. I just
Speaker 1: kind of stand back and and make sure we monitor
Speaker 1: who's who's talking to Tom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gave me the coach star or what's that
Speaker 2: I said? You Dean gave us some of the coaches
Speaker 2: stories about like the voicemails, the Rex, right, but I
Speaker 2: need a Tom Brady story that now is funny because
Speaker 2: you work with him.
Speaker 1: Oh good, Oh okay, I'll give you the Tom Brady story.
Speaker 1: So Tom, like Tom is for like he's he really
Speaker 1: is awesome and he's down to earth and he just
Speaker 1: he's such a he's like wants to be a good teammate.
Speaker 1: He really does. And I'm not blowing smoke, like he
Speaker 1: is just really like wants to learn, wants to and
Speaker 1: he just like comes to dinner, does everything that we
Speaker 1: do other than like three am at the bar, which
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand, but.
Speaker 2: His skin looks like that because he doesn't do three
Speaker 2: He doesn't.
Speaker 1: Do right exactly. So but so all year I'm kind
Speaker 1: of joking with him, like I'm just I want to
Speaker 1: get you to get a drink at dinner, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like a degenerate like me, Chris and KB, Like
Speaker 1: it's like cocktail and wine, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like dugit and tonics and then KB
Speaker 1: then you get the wine, and so it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're trying to get him in. Finally, we were in
Speaker 1: Philly a couple of weeks ago. We went to this
Speaker 1: like tiny, awesome Italian restaurant named Aroma, and and it's
Speaker 1: like this family place and it's and we didn't have
Speaker 1: a private room and we're out amongst everybody, and finally
Speaker 1: we get him and it was a lemon Cello shot.
Speaker 1: So we're not talking about you know, we're not talking
Speaker 1: about it was Lemonell, but hey, baby steps and and
Speaker 1: finally we got shots and he did it like he
Speaker 1: did the shot, and I was a little annoyed that
Speaker 1: he did it without cheering anybody.
Speaker 2: He didn't tell any of us.
Speaker 1: It was like he didn't wait wait, I was like, what,
Speaker 1: I wanted to do the shot with you?
Speaker 2: But he cheers him he did. I just cheers the goat.
Speaker 1: He did. He did, so we finally got him to
Speaker 1: do a shot, So that was fun. That was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's, like you said, he walking on the field
Speaker 2: you kind of forget, which sounds so lame, being in
Speaker 2: meeting rooms with him, just talking ball with him, talking scenarios,
Speaker 2: gossiping with him, stuff like that. He's the goat, and
Speaker 2: then you go out on the field with him pregame
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, yeah, okay, now I got it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But he's been great.
Speaker 1: He's great, and I love listening to him talk about
Speaker 1: football Hall and it's it's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It's really been a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Any Dean a piece of advice because keV has graced
Speaker 2: us with his presence on this podcast as well, and
Speaker 2: he took my favorite word, circuitous route to become a broadcaster.
Speaker 2: He was a car salesman.
Speaker 3: You mentioned you started as an intern, So what advice
Speaker 3: do you have for people that want to get into
Speaker 3: the business and just think like, oh, I have to
Speaker 3: do this, this, this, and this, but it doesn't always
Speaker 3: you know, you don't have to. There's a done a
Speaker 3: ton of different ways you can arrive at the same.
Speaker 1: There really is. And like I think everybody that we
Speaker 1: work with, nobody, there's no cookie cutter, there's no blueprint.
Speaker 1: We've all done it differently. And I think it's about relationships.
Speaker 1: I think it's about networking. I remember we were There
Speaker 1: was the young lady that came up to you aarin
Speaker 1: before the game who worked for Tampa PR and she
Speaker 1: was asking EA about advice, and I thought your advice
Speaker 1: was so good in terms of go reach out to
Speaker 1: the local television stations, the radio stations, connect with those people.
Speaker 1: And I think that's it. It's about those relationships. Because
Speaker 1: for me, and I didn't tell this earlier, but the
Speaker 1: only reason I found this out later, the only reason
Speaker 1: I even got a phone call from the NFL because
Speaker 1: I went to Hofstra University in New York. Go Wayne Quebet,
Speaker 1: Marcus Colston football NFL factory by the way, and so
Speaker 1: I went to Hofstra and the girl who was working
Speaker 1: in human resources also went to Hofstra, didn't know me,
Speaker 1: but put my resume on top because we went to
Speaker 1: the same school, and it's just like those relationships and
Speaker 1: meeting people and networking. You just don't know. You don't
Speaker 1: know because there's no one path and there's no there's
Speaker 1: no easy way either. You got to put in the work.
Speaker 1: So I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I was coming back to HR one way
Speaker 2: or another, Folks, doesn't it God damn, oh my god,
Speaker 2: HR your old representative years. You know what that means? Hey, wait, Handan,
Speaker 2: you know this story, do I? I worked at HR
Speaker 2: in Fox. That was my first job. Shut up, yes,
Speaker 2: because I wanted to become a sports broadcaster and the
Speaker 2: only job they had to fail it was the assistant
Speaker 2: and so then yeah, and I went through it.
Speaker 1: You are so cut out for HR. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, so especially so comfortable coming to you with
Speaker 1: my issues and yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2: Wait, I have to ask you this question. If you
Speaker 2: could change one.
Speaker 1: Rule, what would it be? Yeah? One?
Speaker 2: Or get rid of one rule?
Speaker 1: One? I do think we've talked about it a lot
Speaker 1: this year, and I know Tom it's like a pet
Speaker 1: peeve for him, like the quarterbacks with the late slides,
Speaker 1: and it does it put like we had to play
Speaker 1: yesterday yesterday with Baker and he slid late and he
Speaker 1: got hit and everybody jumps up and it's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you hit the quarterback. And so I do
Speaker 1: think that that that late slide that has to be
Speaker 1: something that And I'm not sure what the answer is
Speaker 1: because the defenders are in such a tough spot, Like
Speaker 1: here's mage're trying to tackle Josh Allen and you're getting
Speaker 1: ready to hit him and all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: slides at the last second and it's right at the
Speaker 1: line in the game, guys. But I think that's that's
Speaker 1: something to look at because I do think the onus
Speaker 1: has to be on the player, the quarterback to slide early,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't, and it does put the defense
Speaker 1: in a tough spot.
Speaker 2: Can I add this, what would you like to see?
Speaker 2: Would there be a role you would add?
Speaker 1: You know, I do think we're gonna I do think
Speaker 1: we're going to expand instant replay, and I do I
Speaker 1: think ultimately that's a good thing when we do have
Speaker 1: the video. Because we talked about earlier, officials get one
Speaker 1: look at it full speed and they may miss it,
Speaker 1: and so if we can have an opportunity to correct them,
Speaker 1: it's got to be game changing. You don't want to
Speaker 1: reofficiate the game through replay, it would you know, think
Speaker 1: about four and a half minutes yesterday, we're all sitting
Speaker 1: there waiting. So I think there is an opportunity to
Speaker 1: use technology to help get get the plays right because
Speaker 1: there is so much riding on these games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering if you could explain to everybody
Speaker 2: what the hell you're doing on camera behind Kevin and Tom.
Speaker 2: There was a little meme about that. Yeah, it did
Speaker 2: go viral. Well, I feel like you should tell everyone
Speaker 2: the game was created of the different poses Dean will
Speaker 2: do it is. Yeah, so it's a weird like some
Speaker 2: of the booths.
Speaker 1: They've got this I don't know what they call the camera,
Speaker 1: but it kind of shoots. It's not the head on
Speaker 1: shot that when when KB and Tom will be on
Speaker 1: camera talking to the audience. It's kind of like an angle.
Speaker 1: And so when they shoot that shot, I'm in the
Speaker 1: corner and it just kind of looks weird, like I'm.
Speaker 2: Just like standing there, insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so Art and so Rich Russo who who
Speaker 1: He'll He'll be like, hey, Dean, you're in the shot,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't want to just stand there.
Speaker 1: Looks weird. It looks like I'm just like, hey, who's
Speaker 1: got like weird owner? And so I just started doing
Speaker 1: like different hand gestures and I told them I'm like, kyb,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do the I'm gonna do like the
Speaker 1: double point. And he's like, please don't do it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. And then they came on and I
Speaker 1: did the double point and he couldn't get through his next,
Speaker 1: you know, his next couple of comments. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: we're kind of like and I've got I've got pretty
Speaker 1: much like a bunch more that we can do. So
Speaker 1: maybe we'll just you know, do that every every week.
Speaker 1: Although I'm not going to be with you guys in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't love this.
Speaker 2: No offense to Mike Prearra. I think we we have
Speaker 2: dual sideline. We should have dual rules.
Speaker 3: Double double your pleasure double.
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to give a shout out
Speaker 2: to this. And we talked a lot about this at
Speaker 2: Payway and when you called me Cursa, I these officials
Speaker 2: get a lot of ship. You know, as Dean said,
Speaker 2: you have to have fixed skin, a sense of humor.
Speaker 2: There was a moment yesterday where tired Matthew was messed up.
Speaker 2: He was trying to he was trying to get the
Speaker 2: con webs out. He was trying and Clinton, my security
Speaker 2: and I are watching this and we're like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: he is like feeling it. They did another play. He's
Speaker 2: still trying to shake his head, thank god. And I
Speaker 2: almost turned into a mom Actually question, could I have
Speaker 2: told the official, hey, check on him? I probably would
Speaker 2: have gotten in trouble.
Speaker 1: No, I think you could have. You could have. There's
Speaker 1: nothing we and we and we have said that. This
Speaker 1: goes back when I was still at the League office
Speaker 1: and we wanted the officials. If you recognize a guy
Speaker 1: who's struggling, who gets up and you know, loses their
Speaker 1: bouth there, clearly they've gotten something, some something's going on,
Speaker 1: potential headneck injury. You get him out, don't don't just
Speaker 1: get him out of the game. And we also have
Speaker 1: the you know, the spot or upstairs that you do that.
Speaker 1: So I remember you saying that, which was awesome because
Speaker 1: you want that player to because because these guys are
Speaker 1: such competitors, don't want Yeah, and sometimes.
Speaker 2: So this official took the guy and let him over
Speaker 2: to the sideline to the Saints. It's not a guy,
Speaker 2: it's Tyron Matthew led him over there, like go get help.
Speaker 2: And I was telling Dean, I was like I all game,
Speaker 2: I wanted to get his attention and be like thank
Speaker 2: you for doing that because we know Tyron Matthew like
Speaker 2: he's not going to come out and it was kind
Speaker 2: of a scary moment. But I had actually thought of
Speaker 2: asking you that, Dean, Like I wonder if I could
Speaker 2: have said in a time out, go check on him.
Speaker 2: Now that probably would have pissed off the team if
Speaker 2: they wanted him out there, but he needed some assistance.
Speaker 1: Sure, No, there's no doubt he did. And I think
Speaker 1: that's that's the official's job and that in that moment
Speaker 1: to get that player, it doesn't matter who it is,
Speaker 1: get that player out of the game to get checked,
Speaker 1: because that's that's the player safety. That's so important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many fascinating I know it is. It's
Speaker 2: been so interesting, well because you know, we're lucky enough
Speaker 2: with our jobs to have the curtain pulled back and
Speaker 2: you get to see all of these different facets, Like
Speaker 2: people didn't know what a Steve didn't know what a
Speaker 2: spotter was. He's like, wait, who's the guy in the
Speaker 2: booth with al what's a spot Like? Yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: really cool.
Speaker 3: So Dean, thank you for shedding some light on an
Speaker 3: incredible part of the game and, by the way, an
Speaker 3: unenviable part of the game because you're like the manager
Speaker 3: of the restaurant that everyone's going to bitch to you
Speaker 3: at their table. So you have to have a temperament
Speaker 3: like you have to customer service.
Speaker 1: You're the gate agent.
Speaker 2: How do they get your phone number? Or all the
Speaker 2: coaches intertiable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd give I'd give them my phone number and
Speaker 1: they text and call. And Sean Payton we mentioned Sean
Speaker 1: Eli boy, Sean he would call and Sean was the
Speaker 1: one guy and I love him to death. Most coaches
Speaker 1: I could get to some common ground if Sean is
Speaker 1: like the sky is green right now, and I'm like, coach, no,
Speaker 1: it's blue, and he's like, no, it's green, and you're
Speaker 1: not going to convince me otherwise, And I'm like, all right, coach,
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And he can keep you on for a while.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's the best. They're They're all and like
Speaker 1: we like we said, they're under so much pressure, all right,
Speaker 1: and today like you get I mean, you see the
Speaker 1: coaches getting fired.
Speaker 2: It's sucks idea who will get some of these jobs?
Speaker 2: I know your friends with a lot of guys. You
Speaker 2: want to break some news here, Jay Glazer, No.
Speaker 1: I leave that up to Jay. You know, Jay, he's
Speaker 1: the guy. He is the guy that that that that
Speaker 1: does those those scoops. And but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: you look at all the candidates, and we were talking
Speaker 1: about it. You have these You have a guy like
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, who is an incredible play caller, who's been
Speaker 1: incredible for the Lions. Can he be a head coach? Right?
Speaker 1: Because it's a different it's a different skill set. It's
Speaker 1: you've got to now be like I always think of
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. You know, he's a leader of men, he's
Speaker 1: a man, he manages everything. And the guys that can
Speaker 1: and I think Ben Johnson could do it, but we
Speaker 1: just don't know, right. So you have these guys that
Speaker 1: I think we'll get opportunities and and and we'll see.
Speaker 2: Well you see it. You see the Shane Steichens that
Speaker 2: go from an offensive coordinator position to a head coach
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden that you get or
Speaker 2: the Brian flores Is of the world that went and
Speaker 2: became a head coach, and it was like, hey, you're
Speaker 2: better served actually just maybe staying in your specialty, because
Speaker 2: I feel like it's got to be one of those
Speaker 2: things you get further further removed from your your specific
Speaker 2: specialty because you're trying to manage everything. Now, some guys
Speaker 2: obviously do it seamlessly, and you've seen, you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of examples of that. But yeah, very think such
Speaker 2: a cool job, but a lot of pressure and not
Speaker 2: a can handle it like yours. Dean, you're the best.
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 2: We have to be careful.
Speaker 1: We love Mike, We love Mike, but I do feel
Speaker 1: like I'm probably I bring a little bit more to
Speaker 1: the table in terms of the late night stuff than Mike,
Speaker 1: but sure, but on the officiating stuff, Mike is the goat.
Speaker 1: He is, he was the first one to do it.
Speaker 1: Love Mike to death. I've worked with him forever and
Speaker 1: there was a time and I've we can tell stories offline,
Speaker 1: but there was a time when Mike used to get
Speaker 1: after it too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, last year, No, two years ago. Hey,
Speaker 2: what's one thing about traveling with announcing crew that people
Speaker 2: maybe would have no idea about, Like, what's something pull
Speaker 2: back the curtain on that?
Speaker 1: Just the logistics Our cu is so good. Everybody on
Speaker 1: that crew like I've never and it makes me uncomfortable
Speaker 1: a little bit, like I like I never had. It's
Speaker 1: like people are picking you up, and people are they're
Speaker 1: they're doing, and it's like everything is buttoned up and
Speaker 1: you and I never have a question about you know,
Speaker 1: my flight or or being picked up from the airport
Speaker 1: or being like I always get that information. Hey, so
Speaker 1: and so is going to pick you up at this time,
Speaker 1: here's the number, here's the information, and it's like all
Speaker 1: those logistics, Matt Gail is incredible, the jack all those guys.
Speaker 1: Shout out to all those guys, because there is so
Speaker 1: much that goes into it and just getting getting into
Speaker 1: the stadium, right, when are we going to leave, how
Speaker 1: are we going to get how we getting out of
Speaker 1: the stadium, all those logistics, and that's just a little
Speaker 1: part of what goes into putting on a football game,
Speaker 1: and there's so many other moving parts.
Speaker 2: You're a goddamn.
Speaker 1: Today. Yep, five and a half hour. So yeah, little
Speaker 1: jet lag, but we'll we'll get through it.
Speaker 2: We'll power through.
Speaker 3: So Dean, as you know, since you are a loyal
Speaker 3: Calm Down listener, okay, longtime listener, first time caller. There's
Speaker 3: a bunch of different stories that Aaron and I have,
Speaker 3: whether it's you know about Mac, whether it's about Steve,
Speaker 3: whether it's about Jarrett, whatever it is. So most recently
Speaker 3: going to Chicago for my Thursday night game, there was
Speaker 3: I let Steve have the full ruins of the travel.
Speaker 3: It got all screwed up, ended up at different airports.
Speaker 3: The bag is the whole thing, Okay, but I had
Speaker 3: given him full authority to take control. He said he
Speaker 3: got it and he screwed it up. I need your take,
Speaker 3: and this is going to be an official A Rules
Speaker 3: segment with Steve off sides or not or hold a
Speaker 3: mess up with the travel.
Speaker 1: He definitely offsides, definitely offside. You know it was, But
Speaker 1: I feel for him because I've done I had a
Speaker 1: similar experience when I went to see you two at
Speaker 1: the Sphere with this girl I was dating and all excited.
Speaker 1: We're in Vegas. It's great we're gonna go. We show
Speaker 1: up at the Sphere and the girl looks at my
Speaker 1: phone and she goes, these tickets are for tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: And there you're walking.
Speaker 1: In there there at the at the door and we're
Speaker 1: leaving the next day. So we're not even and it
Speaker 1: was my I never Thankfully, luckily story ends well. Our
Speaker 1: Fox crew was doing the Raiders game. A group from
Speaker 1: that crew was it was eb Eric Billinger's crew. They
Speaker 1: were going to the Sphere. We were all supposed to
Speaker 1: meet up. I texted him like, hey, got a problem,
Speaker 1: can you help out? And they got us into a
Speaker 1: suite and it actually worked out. It actually worked out.
Speaker 1: But I have that feeling that it was such a
Speaker 1: sinking feeling. So I can only imagine how Steve felt
Speaker 1: when that was, you know, the wrong airport.
Speaker 2: That's an incredible start. No oh oh, good follow up,
Speaker 2: good follow up. Here's the problem Steve, because he lives
Speaker 2: on you know, in La La Land. In the best
Speaker 2: way possible, everything can be made into a positive. He's like, look,
Speaker 2: I got to meet the baggage claim attended at O'Hare,
Speaker 2: so he'll find a silver lining and anything. Okay, now
Speaker 2: here's another situation. Off sides or not on red receipts.
Speaker 2: So Vince Spawn said that he was going to come
Speaker 2: on the podcast. This was year one, We're in year three.
Speaker 3: Kept saying he's going to come on whatever, which we
Speaker 3: were so excited for. So I kept texting him like, hey,
Speaker 3: can you come on this week? Would show that he
Speaker 3: read it, but then never responded, never reigned. Finally, now
Speaker 3: I'm ticked. I screenshot the messages and I think I'm
Speaker 3: sending them to Aaron, but I send them back to
Speaker 3: Vince Spawn and I'm like, this fucking guy right.
Speaker 2: Her chest so bad when you see that you committed
Speaker 2: that bad.
Speaker 1: That is yes, definitely off sides, and I've done that,
Speaker 1: and that's what I person. And you're the sinking, feeling burning.
Speaker 2: Tell me what yours was. Tell me what your off
Speaker 2: side was.
Speaker 1: So it was it was somebody not to name names.
Speaker 1: It was somebody from the league office who texted me
Speaker 1: something so ridiculous about a play, and I screenshotted it
Speaker 1: and I was going to send it to my friend
Speaker 1: who works for the team, and it was similar, like
Speaker 1: you look at this bullshit, And I sent it to
Speaker 1: the person who sent it to me, and it was like,
Speaker 1: and you're just waiting, And then I'm frantically like, is
Speaker 1: there can I delete this? Can I get it? And
Speaker 1: then they did respond like what do you mean? And
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, you know your response was
Speaker 1: so ridiculous. I wanted you to read it again. I
Speaker 1: like that. I like that. Yeah, good, so it was.
Speaker 1: I get it. But definitely off sides, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Aaron, you have to have one for him offsides or not?
Speaker 2: Is it a Jarrett Snoring story? What is it? Give
Speaker 2: me something for him? I'm trying to think Dean hears
Speaker 2: about it all weekend.
Speaker 1: I know I do hear about it. I do want
Speaker 1: to hang out. I want to hang out with Jared.
Speaker 1: I want to hang out with Steve. I think we
Speaker 1: all need to go out.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we would have a tough triangle with
Speaker 2: these three. We wouldn't even see him. We would lose
Speaker 2: Dean as a friend.
Speaker 1: I know I would. I'm not gonna lie. I would
Speaker 1: probably ditch you too, and just it would be the three.
Speaker 1: It will be the three of us.
Speaker 2: But that's what happens. Super Bowl. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's super perfect super Bowl.
Speaker 2: It is Hey, do we need to help you with
Speaker 2: any of your d ms or are you good? Oh,
Speaker 2: here's I'm good right now.
Speaker 1: I'm good right now. Like I want to get through
Speaker 1: the season. I'm just focusing on the kids being a
Speaker 1: better co parent. But then once the season ends, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll nibble later.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will never nibble. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: We'll gobble, well, yeah, gobble.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is taking a turn.
Speaker 1: Yes, and anybody out there, any any single young ladies
Speaker 1: that want to slide into Jared Klein's DMS, go for it.
Speaker 2: So SA go for it.
Speaker 1: Slide Google Dolls. That's our song, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, got in yesterday.
Speaker 1: What a good song.
Speaker 2: That should be your karaoke song. We played it in
Speaker 2: Philly a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't quite a karaoke session. It was more
Speaker 1: of us just dancing and screaming and I just something else.
Speaker 1: In the meeting room. I had three chairs lined up
Speaker 1: and I was dancing on the chairs, like walking from
Speaker 1: one chair.
Speaker 2: It was yeah, is there footage of that? Yeah, get
Speaker 2: under the undisputable video evidence.
Speaker 1: Me enough and Jason Thorne and other great guys. All
Speaker 1: through we reenacted the dirty dancing. We reenacted Patrick Swayze
Speaker 1: and Jennifer and I was Jennifer Gray and he was
Speaker 1: Patrick Swayzee and so I jumped into his arms, his
Speaker 1: strong and capable arms. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. All right, we'll land this plane. But
Speaker 2: I have to end it with your karaoke song is.
Speaker 1: My karaoke song, And I'm not gonna lie. I'm actually
Speaker 1: pretty incredible in karaoke. And if you hear me do
Speaker 1: with or without you by you two, you might actually
Speaker 1: not like the YouTube version anymore.
Speaker 2: Wow, there is a cheat. And I'm not even I'm
Speaker 2: not even going to have you do it here because
Speaker 2: I need to see this in person or at the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Championship game. We'll do it, and we will
Speaker 2: take a video of that and we will play it
Speaker 2: right here because that is worth the wait. And here
Speaker 2: here she goes. Do you You're the Best? Calm Down
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