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Speaker 1: This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You

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Speaker 1: can visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe

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Speaker 1: while you're there. Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm

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Speaker 1: playing along with Sasami.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long Weuzy. I'm just playing lone Weuzy.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. This is Sarah Oda. Thanks thanks

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Speaker 3: Our guest today is singer, songwriter, producer, composer, and multi

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Speaker 3: instrumentalist Sasami Ashworth. She's a classically trained to French horn player.

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Speaker 3: She also spent years playing in the band Cherry Glazer,

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Speaker 3: and her third solo studio album, Blood on the Silver Screen,

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Speaker 3: came out last year in twenty twenty five, and it

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Speaker 3: just kind of shows how fearless she is and changing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was so fun. I love getting to know her.

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Speaker 1: Her voice is cool, right, it's so low we had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just great. I love getting to know

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Speaker 1: I really didn't know much about her before we talked

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Speaker 1: I was really excited and I look forward to hearing

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Speaker 1: more from her.

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Speaker 2: She's amazing. She's very cool.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 3: In this episode, you hear about how she's kind of

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Speaker 3: had a few different musical lives and how she's always

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Speaker 3: Also some interesting background information about her very interesting interesting

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Speaker 3: She should make a film, Yeah yeah, And as always,

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Speaker 3: beautiful duets including homage to an artist that you both love.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this was really fun. I hope you enjoyed the

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Speaker 1: episode with Sasami.

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Speaker 2: There is some.

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Speaker 1: Spicy language in this episode, so listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 2: It's not that bad, but just so you know, it's.

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Speaker 5: M HM.

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Speaker 6: Said on in to a.

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Speaker 4: Lie that you lie.

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Speaker 7: For a little, have.

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Speaker 2: A kid, get a pretty world, get.

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Speaker 4: A real job.

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Speaker 8: And a face.

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Speaker 2: Man, nothing is wrong and nothing.

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Speaker 8: And I know that you're leaving any but I want

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Speaker 8: you to know.

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Speaker 2: I want you to know you're not.

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Speaker 4: I want you know.

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Speaker 9: You cannot always call me.

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Speaker 6: A little bit of a birthday.

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Speaker 2: Never heard.

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Speaker 4: Anyone too much of a good thing.

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Speaker 2: It's like a hand on your neck.

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Speaker 4: So you drive and you drive to your burd in

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Speaker 4: your art in the heat of the morning s and

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Speaker 4: then it is wrong in thing right, and I know

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Speaker 4: that you'll leave it.

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Speaker 5: Tonic back in your bags and sing any.

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Speaker 4: Of the bades.

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Speaker 2: I don't want you, I want.

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Speaker 9: You to know.

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Speaker 4: I want you to know you're not.

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Speaker 2: I want you, don't know.

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Speaker 9: You cannlways call me, O want you to know.

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Speaker 2: I want you to know you're.

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Speaker 9: Not A Hello, I watch you. You can always call me.

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Speaker 2: I love the song thank You.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a like it's got that chord progression.

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Speaker 1: It's just like it settles right in you know. It's melancholy.

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 8: I feel like there's there's an unnamed Fleetwood Mac song

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Speaker 8: Christine mcviee about the chorus. Oh yeah, I love Christine

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Speaker 8: McFee so good. Yeah, it's okay, it's actually it's the

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Speaker 2: It's a song.

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Speaker 8: It's oh no no, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm over my head. I'm over my head.

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Speaker 4: Oh it doesn't tell.

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Speaker 2: Anything like that.

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Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, I know what you mean or

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Speaker 8: is out of my mind?

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Speaker 2: Only over you? Please don't go. No no, no, no no,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm out of my mind, but it's only over you.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. It's like from one of the eighties.

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Speaker 2: It's like one of the like Later Task or something.

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Speaker 8: She's such a legend. I love Christine mcved me too, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: because I feel because I have a low voice. I'm

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Speaker 8: Jessica Pratt, like everyone that has like a low tambour voice.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you have a very low voice.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 8: Really so funny though, there's like home videos of me

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Speaker 8: from when I'm five, you know, like when your parents

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Speaker 8: take the little camcorder videos and I'm like, hi, mom.

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Speaker 2: You had the low voice when you were little. That's

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Speaker 2: you know genetics.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you're writing a song and you sort of hear

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Speaker 8: I feel like a lot of times, I'll it's I

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Speaker 8: Sometimes you just hear a song and you're like, I

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Speaker 8: almost like a spiritual like leap rog It's like tag

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Speaker 8: and it feels like bad to block that.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, if I really if I'll like ask my friends,

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Speaker 8: I trust I'm like, does this sound too much like that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that when I'm writing a

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Speaker 8: Right, and you're like, yeah, I was inspired by like

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Speaker 1: Contact is everything. So yeah, anything to block it is bad.

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Speaker 8: I think blocking any creative anything is bad. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 8: It has nothing to do with us the songs, it

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Speaker 8: I didn't really start writing songs till I was like

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Speaker 2: Just like one of a hundred soldiers. You were a

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Speaker 8: I went to like idle Wild Summer Camp and then

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Speaker 1: I went there for two summers cool, and I went

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Speaker 1: I love that world and I loved going it was.

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Speaker 1: It's cool because it's in the woods as idle well

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Speaker 8: It's very magical. I mean it changed my life for sure.

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Speaker 8: It was really random. I was like in middle school,

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Speaker 8: I played french horn, which is the randommest instrument. Can

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Speaker 8: you curse on this podcast? Yeah, it's a randommest fucking instrument.

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Speaker 2: A tricky instrument. It's hard when you're a kid too,

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Speaker 8: Really like the the leap up from being really really

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Speaker 8: that's a huge goal for piano. It's like you press

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got to get a sound, and it's

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Speaker 8: I got all these scholarships into programs that I had.

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Speaker 8: Literally everyone around me was so much better their instruments.

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Speaker 1: Of relate to that because I was never great at practicing.

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Speaker 1: Still well and it's cool and you get to write

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Speaker 8: Yeah, really like, but you were improvising, so you were

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first song you wrote? Did you

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Speaker 8: I was like, I think, I think I can I

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Speaker 2: But did you always sing? I sang in choir in

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Speaker 1: But did you feel like your voice was also like

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Speaker 8: Well, that's the thing I think about being a songwriter.

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Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, harder to sing other people's songs because

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you're a good writer, you write and

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Speaker 8: I'm still working on this, but if you're a good writer,

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Speaker 8: teaching this school of song like songwriter or shop in April, okay,

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Speaker 1: Really good tip. Yeah, I don't even join.

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Speaker 2: My class now. I want to use that, and that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never think to do that, but I think

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Speaker 8: It's a great tip, right people, Yeah, what's your writing

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Speaker 2: I don't have a like a practice.

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Speaker 1: I think I used to think that I needed to

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Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 8: You know. Voice memo on the iPhone has a new

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good tip. Usually I feel like I

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Speaker 1: I'll do like weird stuff like that, and then eventually

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I find that on

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Speaker 8: I hurt them. Yeah, the ones that are worth coming back. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and I'll like make a folder or I'll write some.

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Speaker 8: I feel like it's like the only time where nobody's

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Speaker 8: scientifically proven that you're like not yourself really that I

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was the lack of oxygen. I

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Speaker 2: guess that's why it's like a combination of that.

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00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: Definitely cryed on planes, definitely, But yeah, I think that

446
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 1: or taking a long walk without your without headphones and

447
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: with you know, airplane mode, but you can listen to

448
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: stuff or write in your head.

449
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 2: I think that's a nice way to do it. Definitely.

450
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: I've written on walks before. Yeah, for sure.

451
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: Do you have like a practice where you write or

452
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: do you just sort of let it come like that?

453
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: I definitely do.

454
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 8: I feel like I'm very I feel like some people

455
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 8: their album is like their magnum opus, like it's like

456
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 8: their baby. The album itself is like their Everything they

457
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 8: do is like for the album. But for me, I

458
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 8: feel like I'm so much more process oriented. I think

459
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 8: probably because I grew up playing French horn and like

460
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 8: playing in a symphony, so I wasn't writing as much.

461
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 8: The thing I did was playing, and like was being

462
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 8: in the middle of the sound. So I get really

463
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 8: obsessed with like a sound world, whether it's like pop

464
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 8: or metal or classical, and then I just get really

465
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 8: obsessed with like playing in that or like figuring out

466
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 8: chord progressions or learning the vernacular of a certain genre.

467
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 8: And then the album is just kind of like a

468
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 8: product of almost like a dissertation of like what I

469
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 8: kind of learned while I was in that era, okay

470
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 8: doing that, so.

471
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: Like the melody and lyrics just sort of get woven

472
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Speaker 1: into It's.

473
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Speaker 8: Almost like I like, if I got really into pop

474
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 8: before I made my last record, I was just like,

475
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 8: why is pop so good?

476
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: Like what is it about?

477
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 8: Like you know, like it can be pulp or it

478
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 8: can be Rihanna, but like they're both pop. Like David Bowie,

479
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 8: there's so many different genres, but a pop song is

480
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 8: a pop song, and like what makes a pop song

481
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 8: a pop song? For example, I had never written a

482
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 8: song where the verse and the chorus are over.

483
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: The same chords.

484
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 8: I was like, what you could write the verse and

485
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 8: a chorus are in the same chords, and it's like, yeah, bitch,

486
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 8: that's pop music. It's like, oh, this is familiar because

487
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 8: you just heard it five seconds.

488
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: But the melody down, yeah, and then you raise the

489
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 2: melody and you do like a big shower exactly.

490
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 8: So I was like, so I was like, okay, I'm

491
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 8: interested in this pop world. And then like when I

492
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 8: started to like understand the vernacular of it, it's like, oh,

493
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 8: the chorus goes like up and range, so it feels

494
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 8: like there's some lift or whatever, like the high hats

495
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 8: pick up here or something. Then when I like become

496
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 8: comfortable in that language, then I can kind of improvise,

497
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 8: like write a little bit more freely once I've like

498
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 8: kind of learned enough, learned enough Vocalularieah, you learn it and.

499
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: Then you just kind of it just kind of becomes

500
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: part of you.

501
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 8: Exactly and kind of like what we're talking about before,

502
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 8: you think that you're doing something and always becomes something else.

503
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 2: So you know, you're like, oh, I've.

504
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 8: Heard this from so many friends, Like I thought I

505
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 8: was writing a pomp song and then it just sounds.

506
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: Like art rock.

507
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're all just doing our best. Yeah, that's

508
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: a good way to do it, just chase little things.

509
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 8: Is there is there like a genre or a sound

510
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 8: world that you're really obsessed with right now?

511
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Not really.

512
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: Well, I love working with Leon Michaels because like the

513
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: sounds he gets, but it's the same. It's like still piano,

514
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: drums and bass as the basic stuff. It's just sonically

515
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: so different. But I was listening to your stuff and I.

516
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: Was like, this is crazy.

517
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: It's like the sonic landscape is so vast, and you're

518
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: in a metal I mean, like, where does that even

519
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: come from?

520
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

521
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: Most most unique did you listen to metal growing up?

522
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 8: I mean I listened to like System of a Down

523
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 8: when I was in middle school because it was on

524
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 8: the radio. It wasn't that a weird time in like

525
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 8: the aughts when like I don't know, I'm much older

526
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 8: than you, but do you remember like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

527
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 8: my god, Like, yeah, I do you remember, like that

528
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 8: was on the radio?

529
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: That was like onis.

530
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't think I listened to the radio then because

531
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: I lived in New York and I didn't have a car.

532
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: No, well, just because you know, you listened to it

533
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: in the car.

534
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 8: So I mean I listened to a lot of rock

535
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 8: growing up. But I think when I was making Squeeze

536
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 8: the album before, I was really into like nostalgic new

537
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 8: metal because that was the music music of like my

538
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 8: middle school, like Evanescence, go You Okay, you Knows of

539
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 8: a Down and stuff like that, but then tied into

540
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 8: also being into like shell Crow and like Christine mcviee,

541
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 8: Like my influences are always all over the place. I

542
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 8: don't know, we don't know why we do it.

543
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: We know we don't.

544
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 8: It's kind of embarrassing to overthink it. I agree, I

545
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 8: agree with that.

546
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, I like, But what I like is that,

547
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, I feel.

548
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: All those influences in your music. But then when you

549
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: break down, these songs are just good songs.

550
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: And I love that that you're doing them with the

551
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: chamber of orchestra, and you know, because you know why,

552
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: because they're just good songs.

553
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: Thank you. Like you can't do that with all songs.

554
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know it's true, but they're melodic and just good, heartfelt.

555
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 8: What's the weirdest arrangement you've ever played your songs with?

556
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 8: Have you ever done anything kind of No, I haven't.

557
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: I'm actually a little bit allergic to like orchestral orchestral No.

558
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I need to see the Nora Jones metal album.

559
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean I would do a metal album over an

560
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: orchestra album, probably because I don't know why.

561
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 8: I think strings are like the same tambre as my voice,

562
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 8: and it gets it can tend to lean small sy yeah,

563
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 8: when I've been trying like so hard not to lean

564
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 8: that way, but my voice could so easily go there,

565
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 8: you know, totally.

566
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: I should just lean in and do something and it

567
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: would be beautiful. You know Rosalia album.

568
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 8: I feel like she's tied in classical music in like

569
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 8: a really cool way. But it's like classical music that

570
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 8: goes into technow Oh cool, it's interesting.

571
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: That is interesting. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I like

572
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: not knowing and then just seeing where things go. We all.

573
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 8: I really just think that we we all, Like I

574
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 8: was saying earlier, it's like the songs exist and we're

575
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 8: just pulling them down. Like we all have our own path.

576
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 8: There's no right or wrong, exactly way to do anything,

577
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 8: you know.

578
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Are you writing right now? Always? Yeah?

579
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

580
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: I used to feel.

581
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: Confused if I didn't have any songs in like a

582
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: six or month period or like a year, and then

583
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: I just stopped worrying about it.

584
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: Something always floats through my head. Yeah, but it could

585
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: be the stupidest thing. It could just be like boom

586
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: boom boom.

587
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: Or like a leer and then you write it down

588
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: and then maybe a year later you find it and

589
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: you like it. Yeah, you know, it doesn't have to

590
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: be a full song. Yeah, that's what I like, just

591
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: catching little bits and then finishing them.

592
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: And it's so weird when.

593
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 8: It comes because you'll like sit down and be like

594
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 8: I want to write right now.

595
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: It's like nothing, nothing, nothing. You're like at the grocery

596
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: store and you're like no, no, no, no no no. You're like, oh,

597
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: I got it to the car voice my moo. Real

598
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: sport disappears.

599
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

600
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 8: I've actually been listening to a lot of piano music recently,

601
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 8: like Strayhorn, like that kind of era, or like classical.

602
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: No, like there's you know when you're when you're your

603
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: algorithm feeds you stuff, and so my husband and I

604
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: have been listening to this the Vernon Spring. I don't know,

605
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know anything about him. I just know

606
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: that I love He's it's just like solo piano.

607
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: But is it contemporary?

608
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: It's contemporary, and it's it's got a mute on it.

609
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: It's like very mute.

610
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: It sounded like that.

611
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sonically funky in a way that is beautiful.

612
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: But it's not classical. It's not jazz. But it's just

613
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: really pretty little compositions. I love that. Yeah, do you

614
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: ever write just piano compositions?

615
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm maybe getting there because of that

616
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: kind of influence.

617
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, stuff like that feels good to play.

618
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 8: It just feels good to play. Yeah, I never play

619
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 8: God Forbid.

620
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 4: God for.

621
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 8: I always forget to play when I'm home.

622
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: Do you play at home a lot? Yeah? I do.

623
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: I live.

624
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 8: I live in a very remote place, So I feel

625
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 8: like I have like forced myself to. I just you know,

626
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 8: when you like kind of you do things when you're

627
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 8: just like bored or procrastinating. I feel like I'm either

628
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 8: bored or procrastinating almost at all times, and so it

629
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 8: always kind of siphons to playing music. Oh really, you know,

630
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 8: if I'm bored, I'll like play music. And if I'm

631
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 8: like procrastinating something like if I have to like clean

632
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 8: my house or something or like pack for something, that's.

633
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: When I'm like, I need to play right now. That's great.

634
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Does that ever happened to you? No, my phone is

635
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: what I go to and important procrastinating. You need you

636
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: need a jail cell for you.

637
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: I hate it so much, I just want to smash it.

638
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: But you know, all my patient portals in.

639
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: My school, my kids school, crab is that's a whole.

640
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: It's so annoying.

641
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 8: If I had kids, I'm sure I wouldn't be procrastinating.

642
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 8: I think I need like a bat phone just for

643
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 8: that stuff, and then yeah, exactly.

644
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's nice. I wish I had a grand

645
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: piano at my disposal at all time. Yeah, that's pretty awesome.

646
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: It's nice to be honest.

647
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: I have an upright piano with a little mute on

648
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: it upstairs that I play I love, but I do

649
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: love coming down here and playing that.

650
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: Do you make music with your kids? We try. Yeah,

651
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: they're very hesitant. My parents like or not. My parents

652
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: my dad forced us. So was your dad a music teacher?

653
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 8: No, my dad was a just like a I think

654
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 8: he taught like resource like specialized and US history.

655
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: But he was just like a public school teacher.

656
00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: But he was.

657
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: He like, it's a whole long story with my parents.

658
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: It's I could go, I could go there forever.

659
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 8: But he grew up like he was like in a

660
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 8: Beatles cover band, like in Guardina in the sixties, you know,

661
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 8: like playing guitar. He was like at Altamont, like he

662
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 8: was like a rock.

663
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Kid, like a real musician.

664
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, but if you hear him sing now, it's like

665
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 8: the key that you're in is actually baffling, Like I

666
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 8: never I've never seen someone so confidently sing a tritone

667
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 8: off from what the home note is. But so he like,

668
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 8: you know, played bluegrass and played guitar and stuff growing up.

669
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 8: And then my mom sang like in church choir and

670
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 8: she grew up singing and stuff like that. So neither

671
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 8: of them are professional musicians, but they both are like musical.

672
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

673
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 8: My dad used to make us like sit around the

674
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 8: like we all took piano lessons because we're grand kids.

675
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: All take piano lessnse.

676
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 8: But my dad is white and he's from Guardina, and

677
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 8: he grew up like listening to rock music and like

678
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 8: made me Steely Dan mixtapes and stuff like that. But

679
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 8: he would make us like sit around the piano and sing,

680
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 8: like take me out to the ballgame.

681
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: It's just something or whatever. Yeah, he was very like.

682
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 8: The American dream, the family sits around and like sing

683
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 8: songs together.

684
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: And did you hate it at first? Duh? Always yeah,

685
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: me thing your parents like, I know, the lame. It's

686
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: interesting how much they hate what you want them to do. Definitely.

687
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just predictable. Really yeah, yeah, I

688
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: just tell him to do I know.

689
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: That's what I was just thinking.

690
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 8: Kids are like a weird experiment. I have so much

691
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 8: respect for parents because I'm just like I can, like,

692
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 8: you can barely trick your own self to do things

693
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 8: that are good, let alone checking someone who's like prefrontal

694
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 8: cortex is not for them.

695
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do that. It's so funny.

696
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm older now and I I feel like I've

697
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: realized things about myself in the last five years, even

698
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: that I'm like, whoa if I had known this.

699
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: When I was in my twenties or my teens.

700
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 8: You like can't know, but I can't try to tell them,

701
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 8: and they're like, whatever, it's.

702
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: We are all cliches. We're all cliches.

703
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 8: When we're young, we think our parents are like so stupid.

704
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: Get older, we're like, oh, I'm that.

705
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: I know it's crazy. All right, Let's try this song.

706
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: I love this song.

707
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: Tast week.

708
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 6: Take me back, Tony d listen way where we can

709
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 6: talk all night alone to the lid day These.

710
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 5: Days, I'm beg and you know, tell me what's on you?

711
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: Mine? Oh, honey, is to know what you are from me.

712
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: You can't go on just living in love with a memory.

713
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: Ah me is yours?

714
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 10: If you catch me as I'll go If you only

715
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 10: go backwards, then we'll never know.

716
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: Take me back to the.

717
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 4: Open road where the wind can blow in.

718
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 7: My hair and the sun can kiss my face.

719
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: I need to feel alone.

720
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 5: All good things must come to and don't just come

721
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 5: back too bad.

722
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: Let me feel you.

723
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 6: One the last time before we say good night.

724
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 10: It doesn't take away from.

725
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 7: What we share that I need to go and be alone.

726
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 6: Out there trying to do out of those right now.

727
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: I need to be where the ever is. Wha wha.

728
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 10: Take me back to the open road where they're campo

729
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 10: in my hair and the sun can kiss my face.

730
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 5: I need to feel the life.

731
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: All good things.

732
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 4: Must come to and don't have.

733
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 6: Just come back too bad.

734
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: Let me feel you one less time before we say

735
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: good night.

736
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: Take me back to the open road where the wind

737
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 5: can blow in my hair and the sun can kiss

738
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 5: my face.

739
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: I need to feel alive.

740
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 10: All good things must come to un don't cry just

741
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 10: come back too bad. Let me feel you unless time

742
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 10: before we say.

743
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: Do you remember when away first man, No pass, no

744
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: pain nor regret.

745
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: Let's stay up all night long like we did.

746
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: When we were high before, all love.

747
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 5: Even if time, Let's go for one more driving, even.

748
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: If we do.

749
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 10: That's all.

750
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: I love how it's so freaking fun to play.

751
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 4: I know.

752
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll have to do it live together, so I

753
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 8: would totally do that.

754
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: That would be so fun. It'll be amazing. Oh my god,

755
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: that sounds a real journey.

756
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: Thank you.

757
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: It's like a journey song, it is. I was on

758
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: my own little journey me do.

759
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: I kind of was.

760
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: Also, I love the piano version. I do too. It's

761
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: so fun to play like that. Thanks for letting me

762
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: play it.

763
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: Of course.

764
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 8: And also the lyrics are so just sweet. They're just

765
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 8: you know, they're very relatable. You know, it turns out

766
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 8: being a human very relatable. It really is, right, Yeah, yeah,

767
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 8: it's the best. And the French hour was awesome.

768
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: Thank you. So so you have lipstick on? Oh yeah,

769
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: how does that work? Don't tell my band teacher. I

770
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: don't think it's really well. I can use it aloud.

771
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: No.

772
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 8: But also, you can do whatever the fuck you want

773
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 8: when you're an indie rocker.

774
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.

775
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I got a lot more dentse than I've ever had.

776
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 8: I actually it's so funny because I grew up playing

777
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 8: French horn, but I never brought it on the road

778
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 8: until this album cycle, because I was like, what's the

779
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 8: point of having like a pristine, nice friend horn sitting

780
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 8: at home. I'd rather like bring it on the road

781
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 8: and get some dnse And so you just started bringing

782
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 8: it out live. Yeah, I just started bringing out live.

783
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 8: But it's like very intentionally because of the lipstick choreography

784
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 8: at the very end of the set. And I tour

785
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 8: with like my metal my metal drummer Diego. This is

786
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 8: like when he gets his big like kind of he does.

787
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 8: He does this one Judas Priest solo. He's like a

788
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 8: couple of different like super double kick pedal drum solos,

789
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 8: and I like off stage and he plays his solo

790
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 8: and the crowd gets all like wild up and then

791
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 8: I wipe my lipstick off and then I come out

792
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 8: and kind of like mash back to the stage and

793
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 8: then like pick up the front horn and then I'm.

794
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: Like, like a real moment exactly, you know, put on

795
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: a show. I think lipstick choreography, Yeah, something totally This

796
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: thing I've.

797
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 8: Never heard of my life, My friend, have you ever

798
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 8: heard of the artist Dora jar She's so good, she's amazing.

799
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 8: She opened for Greasy Abrams kind of recently and she's

800
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 8: just an incredible, like witchy musician. But she had like

801
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 8: some stick where she came onto the stage and like

802
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 8: did her makeup like in a mirror on stage stage,

803
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 8: Like that's part of it, you know. I love like

804
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: a performance party kind of thing. The friend Mitski does

805
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 8: a lot of different types of performance. She used to

806
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 8: tour with do you know Mitski? She's a tour with

807
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 8: chair and a table like that was her writer. It

808
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 8: was like, I need a chair and a table, and

809
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 8: she had like all this choreography that was just planned

810
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 8: with like a chair and a table.

811
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: I like thet show, you know, CAPITAL just wanted to

812
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: be like that.

813
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like if I started doing that now,

814
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's weird.

815
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh my god, it would be amazing.

816
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: Am I allowed to start throwing on a wig?

817
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 8: Yeah?

818
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: Weird choreography on stage at this point? I don't know.

819
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 8: If have you ever had a side project? Yes, I've

820
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 8: had many side bands. Actually I had what's the craziest

821
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 8: side project?

822
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I had a band called El Madmo and probably like

823
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: around the time my second record came out on the road.

824
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: It was with my touring drummer Andy Borgert and women

825
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: who sang in my band, Dharu Oda and the three

826
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: of us would just play in the dressing room doing

827
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: these like half stadium tours and we would just and

828
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: I was learning guitar and so we would write these songs.

829
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever like tour? Though we didn't tour it.

830
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: We did a bunch of gigs in New York City

831
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: though cool, but we would wear I would wear a

832
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: wig and like blade runner makeup and tights and it.

833
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 2: Was super fun.

834
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 8: You have to have something like I feel like it

835
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 8: like releases the pressure from being a solo artist.

836
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, well I've always had a lot of

837
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: different side projects, but this is the one I got

838
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: to play dress up.

839
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: That's fun. Yeah.

840
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 8: Do you not like you haven't had like a crazy

841
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 8: Nora era for your solo album where you like went

842
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 8: like totally in a different wild direction.

843
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: Not really, I think I think this last album is

844
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: the most coordinated and I've gotten color.

845
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 8: Wise, what's the paint the landscape? For me?

846
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like kind of watermelon colors, you know, teals,

847
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: bright colors.

848
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: I've always been a black, all black girl. Do you

849
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: have fun with the styling?

850
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I do I mean, I love a comfortable outfit. That's

851
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: the only problem. Yeah, yeah, I can't suffer for for

852
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: something in that way.

853
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: See, I feel like I love to suffer. This is

854
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: like to suffer.

855
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 8: This is my like classical thing where I'm like, okay,

856
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 8: I have to be like wearing a corset and like

857
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 8: crazy heels and running around. That's crazy, washing, put lips on,

858
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 8: lipstick off, like it's so chaotic.

859
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: But that's really fine. I don't know if the quality

860
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: is high, but the quality of my life is high.

861
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: The music is quality is high.

862
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 8: So like it's for again, I'm like, I'm so method,

863
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 8: I'm I'm so I really am so Like it's all

864
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 8: about the the pross. Like I always say, like music

865
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 8: as a verb is much more interesting to me, like

866
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 8: music gang some people are very obsessed with like music

867
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 8: as this like precious like little thing, and I'm like, no,

868
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 8: music is just something that just do vehicle for me

869
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 8: running around and of course it yeah exactly, it's just

870
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 8: a soundtrack for my mania.

871
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's that's fun. Yeah, I think that's a

872
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: nice way to think of it.

873
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly do you have do you have other activities

874
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 8: you do that aren't music.

875
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: I take a paining class, and I'm obsessed with Uh.

876
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 8: I like tennis, I like sports. Yeah, you're active, Yeah,

877
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 8: I like being active. I like I like, I'm really

878
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 8: into mushrooms. I moved to like Morin County in northern

879
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 8: California because I got really obsessed with mushrooms, like for agra,

880
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 8: but also just like you know, being able to identify

881
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 8: different species. So wow, Yeah, it's kind of a not

882
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 8: very not musical thing to be obsessed with. But yeah,

883
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 8: I'm really into movies right now though, that's my current Okay,

884
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 8: do you ever act? Have you ever acted? I've acted

885
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 8: like music videos and stuff like that, but not really,

886
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 8: I mean.

887
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: You ever take I mean you're very it seems like

888
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: you are someone who would come up with all the

889
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: music video concepts.

890
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 8: And I've done a lot. I've directed and like physically

891
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 8: edited a lot of my videos. But this album cycle

892
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 8: I was really adamant about working with with other directors

893
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 8: and kind of being more of like a This album

894
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 8: cycle was a lot more collaborative, which you know, it's

895
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 8: like there's blessing and curses to being collaborative.

896
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: You have to like let go a lot more.

897
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 8: But then also what you can achieve is just like

898
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 8: so much greater with like or just like a different

899
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 8: flavor mine. Yeah. Speaking of movies, though, I have to say,

900
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 8: I am like the biggest fan of my Blueberry Nights.

901
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with that movie. That's so have to ask.

902
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: Can I ask you questions about it? Ask me anything

903
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: you want? What was it like working on that movie

904
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: with one car Hi? Well, let me see what's the

905
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: short answer. Well, it was amazing because I read that.

906
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's accurate, but I read that

907
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 8: he told you like not to take acting lessons and there.

908
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: Was no real script. It was a little.

909
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 8: Jazz, yeah, which is very rare for film because there's

910
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 8: so many different moving parts involved and there's so many people.

911
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: It was a huge production.

912
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 8: It wasn't nothing like watching dailies and like playback and

913
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 8: like iol so you were like acting verb like you

914
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 8: were in it.

915
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: I was just in it. And I feel like.

916
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: He wanted me to be just a piece, you know,

917
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: like the center piece to all these moving parts. Maybe

918
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: because there were so many great actors in it and

919
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: I was more reacting to them, and I don't know,

920
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: it was amazing. I mean, it was like one of

921
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: the most incredible things I've ever done.

922
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.

923
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: It's like I knew it would be beautiful because everything he

924
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: does is so beautiful.

925
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: But it's also like kind of Lynchian, like the scenes

926
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: that were.

927
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 8: Like slow and kind of yeah weird and like almost overacted,

928
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 8: like the Rachel Vice scenes.

929
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: It's a little dramatic.

930
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 8: It kind of I was also like really high when

931
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 8: I watched it, but kind of reminds me of like

932
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 8: Inland Empire, the David Lynch film. Like there's something about

933
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 8: it where it's just like kind of uncomfortable, but you're

934
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 8: like that's the whole thing. It's like your characters like

935
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 8: working through the discomfort very much like and like constantly

936
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 8: putting yourself in these like new situations and like kind

937
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 8: of learning.

938
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's such a it's so good. I

939
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: need to rewatch it.

940
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: I would be really curious to watch it again, also

941
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen since it came.

942
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 8: The theme song from Mood for Love is played by

943
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 8: ry Cooter in It is It?

944
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

945
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 8: I forgot about that art as amazing too, Like ry

946
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 8: Cooter plays on it. I kind of forgot about that

947
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 8: or it's I mean, like everything he does is like

948
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 8: very it's artsy, you know. Actually, side note, I think that.

949
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: I forgot that.

950
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 8: Ry Cooter did this and it starts and ends with

951
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 8: your song too. Yeah, I wrote a song for it,

952
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 8: but he also let me. He asked me to make

953
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 8: him like a I mean, this is way back then,

954
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 8: so it wasn't a playlist.

955
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: It's like burns.

956
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: But he asked me to send him some songs for

957
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: the mood, and he ended up using a lot of

958
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: them in the soundtrack. This Cassandra Wilson version of something.

959
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: I can't remember which one, but it's from this album

960
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: I love called New Moon Daughter and oh cat Power

961
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: songs and then.

962
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: So Sean's in it. Yeah, Sean's in it.

963
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: So I sent him these two cat Power songs because

964
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with the greatest and then he loved

965
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: him and he played them through all these scenes. So

966
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: we were we were sort of, you know, acting or

967
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: like some of the long scenes where we were just

968
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: sitting there and not saying any lines, he was playing

969
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: the cat Power songs and so they were a big

970
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: part of the shoot.

971
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 8: And then he got her to be in the movie.

972
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 8: So I was really exciting. You should honestly watch it, Like, yeah,

973
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 8: I should watch it again. So good, I'd be curious

974
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 8: to watch it again. I mean, like so many icons

975
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 8: in it, I know, and also like I just feel

976
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 8: like I got kind of obsessed with it, and I

977
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 8: was like listening, I was like reading all these interviews

978
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 8: with wankar Wai, like just talking about the process because

979
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 8: he had just finished I forget what film, but he

980
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 8: was like, had just finished this film that took like

981
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 8: five years, and.

982
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: I think in the Move for Love was before that.

983
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: I think so No.

984
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 8: Twenty forty six one and it took like five years

985
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 8: to make it. And then this was like a short

986
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 8: he kind of like had like a short time and

987
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 8: there's something to me, like really interesting again, Like I

988
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 8: feel like this from what it seems like the movie

989
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 8: it was much more about the physicality of like making

990
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 8: the movie and the story unfolding, as opposed to it

991
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 8: being this like perfect script, this like perfect object, like

992
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 8: the movie is a perfect object. It was like the

993
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 8: manifestation of like the physicality of him wanting to come

994
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 8: to America and like drive across the country and like

995
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 8: find all these random places like I love art, like

996
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 8: that like art that just exists out of like an

997
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 8: actual human experience as opposed to like where.

998
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: A desire to experience America in that like sort of

999
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: romantic It kind of reminds me of fifty six kind

1000
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: of fun totally.

1001
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1002
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 8: And you know those like Asian T shirts that are

1003
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 8: have English but it's like wrong.

1004
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of reminds me of that. That makes

1005
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, where it's like.

1006
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 8: It's a it's a weird translation of something, but it's

1007
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 8: so like perfect it is.

1008
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense because he hadn't worked

1009
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: in America yet, and I think all the different rules

1010
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: and stuff, it was definitely a challenge I think for

1011
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: him because.

1012
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: He was used to working crazy hours.

1013
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we had union rules, right, you know, stuff

1014
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: that he didn't have to deal with in China when

1015
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: he was working, and so it was very interesting.

1016
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: Did you act in anything after that? I didn't.

1017
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean I've been I know, I've been in a

1018
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: couple of small things, like I cameos and stuff. I

1019
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: did act in one small movie, but it was just

1020
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: a tiny scene, so.

1021
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: Nothing like that. Would you act again.

1022
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: If it was something interesting, Yeah, I think I would.

1023
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: I think I stopped getting asked. And also, your kids

1024
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: have not seen this movie. No, but they could watch

1025
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: this now you need Oh my god, you're so beautiful.

1026
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: But acting is so crazy, it's a crazy job. I'm

1027
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: not used to those hours.

1028
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 8: Also everyone, you know how everyone's a different type of musician.

1029
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 8: It seems like everyone is a different type of actor too,

1030
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 8: Like some people like actors and there's the sort of

1031
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 8: you know, chillaxed actors. Yeah, And I just think that

1032
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 8: way people will make movies is really different. Like, like

1033
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 8: I said, I get obsessed with things. I'm kind of

1034
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 8: like obsessed with movies right now. And I've been listening

1035
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 8: to all these like director interviews, Like there's like this

1036
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 8: one pt Anderson is being interviewed by like Steven Spielberg,

1037
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 8: and like some people are really obsessed with filming it chronologically,

1038
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 8: so that there's this kind of like ability to understand

1039
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 8: the pacing of the story or or like this scene's

1040
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 8: kind of redundant, we already did it, And so that

1041
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 8: can be hard.

1042
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: On the budget totally if you're doing it in different

1043
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: places totally, And some people are really adamant about film

1044
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: and so that kind of makes it harder to like

1045
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: process daily's right away, and everyone just has really different processes.

1046
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 8: And it's so interesting because I know some like we

1047
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 8: obviously don't know everything about music. But it's like I've toured,

1048
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 8: I've been in studio, I've just like kind of I've

1049
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 8: been in pop writing rooms, I've been in classical I

1050
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 8: just like kind of understand how they want to learn a.

1051
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: Different language totally.

1052
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever come up with an idea for something

1053
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: like a film or a short or I mean, I

1054
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: feel like every time I have to make a music video,

1055
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: I have like a three.

1056
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: Million dollar idea. You can't make it, and you're like, oh,

1057
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: I have to make the like.

1058
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 8: Extremely ninety nine cent version of this. So if I

1059
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 8: had a budget, I could. I feel like you could.

1060
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 8: Maybe you should direct it could be cool. Maybe you

1061
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 8: should write something in direct?

1062
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: All right, maybe maybe this is the sign of the universe.

1063
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: But I think it's a crazy world and just the

1064
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: fact that it's it has all the creative elements that

1065
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: music has, I think. But then it's so hard to

1066
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: do something.

1067
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: I know you have to get like so many.

1068
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: People and money, and it's like requires so much more.

1069
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: I'm really I feel really lucky this music because it's

1070
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: so much easier.

1071
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's just so true. Such a hard world

1072
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: for in that way.

1073
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: Totally, and it feels even hard.

1074
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 8: It feels ambitious, even with music when you're like I

1075
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 8: just have to get like a drummer, bass player, guitarist.

1076
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: So easy compare compared all that, I know.

1077
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's it's different. She's a completely different universe.

1078
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 8: But I know it's crazy.

1079
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask you one last thing about

1080
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: growing up, Like, did you go to church?

1081
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? I grew up. Did ever heard of the Moonies

1082
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: before the Unification Church? Yeah? My parents were in that church.

1083
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: What Yeah, they were arranged married by the okay, the lead.

1084
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: I just found your movie idea. Really, I mean that's like, yeah, exactly.

1085
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: They always say, right, what.

1086
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 8: You know my parents, Both of their lives are really interesting.

1087
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 8: They were I mean they were married in Madison Square

1088
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 8: Garden with four thousand people. Yes, yeah, holy they didn't

1089
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 8: even speak the same language when.

1090
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: They were married. I did not know all this. It's

1091
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: pretty okay. That's where I come from. That's why I'm

1092
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: so insane. That is your movie. Yeah, you're going to

1093
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: make that. There was a lot there.

1094
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 8: My dad is like a white hippie that's like across Europe,

1095
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 8: and my mom is like this, like, well, her family is,

1096
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 8: I need you. So there are Koreans that were born

1097
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 8: and raised in Japan when Japan occupied Korea. But then

1098
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 8: her dad was kind of a mobster and he owned

1099
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 8: these pachinko parlors, which were like gambling parlors, and then

1100
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 8: he kind of like rose the social ranks.

1101
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot of lore that.

1102
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 8: Okay, you got to write all that down, right, I

1103
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 8: should be I should be interviewing my family members while

1104
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Speaker 8: they're like still lucid.

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Speaker 1: Kind of the fun thing is you could make that

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Speaker 1: movie and then you could do all the music to it.

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Speaker 2: That's true. That's what I really want to do.

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Speaker 8: I want to I want to start doing more music

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Speaker 8: and heavybes I've done. I've done a little bit, and

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Speaker 8: I've definitely scored, like I did score a feature film

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Speaker 8: like a long time ago, and I've done like theme

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00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 8: songs for podcasts and stuff like that. But I want

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Speaker 8: to do more of that. You know, I'm kind of

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00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 8: sick of being perceived. Yeah, I'm like, I don't need

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Speaker 8: to be a front person.

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Speaker 2: Really, you don't feel drawn.

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Speaker 8: It's just the most efficient way to like have a career,

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Speaker 8: and like, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: You want to move it forward, it's hard to do

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00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: that from behind, exactly.

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Speaker 8: Like working in the film industry. I can't imagine. Oh yeah,

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00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 8: getting anything done feels so hard worse for me. I'm like,

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Speaker 8: I'm just gonna write the dumb on myself and I'll

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Speaker 8: just like hire you know, it's just easier to get

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Speaker 8: shit done.

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Speaker 1: But you're interesting because you don't feel that need to

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Speaker 1: be a front person. But you're also kind of eccentric,

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Speaker 1: but you're not.

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Speaker 8: I only do it because I'm good at it in

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00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 8: the same way that like an accountant is good at math.

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Speaker 2: I'm good at it. That's very interesting.

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Speaker 8: I like to sleep at weird hours, so it seems like.

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Speaker 2: A good job for me.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of why I wanted to be a jazz

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Speaker 1: musician when I was younger, because you were an idol. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to wake up early. It's perfect a

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Speaker 1: good career.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, classical music is way more early early hours.

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00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think I think indie rock and jazz

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00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 8: is good for us. It's good for us. Yeah, awesome. Well,

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Speaker 8: this has been so fun. I know, thank you for

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Speaker 8: joining me.

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00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: You I like to would cover at the end, and

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Speaker 1: you picked such a cool cover for us to do

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Speaker 1: from your friend Clara Clara.

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00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, because Clara is on the on in love with

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00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 8: the memory on the records, I thought it'd be cute. Yeah,

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00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 8: flirty nod, flirty nod.

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Speaker 1: And also Leon Michaels produced this album, which he produced

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Speaker 1: my last few albums, so exactly.

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Speaker 8: I felt like there was enough lines of menage there.

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00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 8: And I told Leon that I was going to do

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Speaker 8: the mouth trumpet solo on my French horn so never

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Speaker 8: Juna's probably been covered ten million times really, but the

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Speaker 8: French horn on it, I don't know no, And I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna mouth the harmony on it. Hell yeah, yeah, okay, come.

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Speaker 4: To me so.

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00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: It's then I feel it on my skin, breathing.

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00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: Most of these days I'll get to me, to me

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00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 4: where I should I laugh should illegally.

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Speaker 7: But a thing again, don't even try.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to think.

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Speaker 4: With you.

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Speaker 7: There's no breathding.

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00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 4: You don't know me, no.

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Speaker 7: Me, I just my know you, no.

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00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 5: Me.

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00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 7: Come to me, Beny, you make me.

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00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 5: Wanna go dancing, You make me try your own Femindy.

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00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 6: You make me wanna bad un dress, you make me

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00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 6: wanna slip off.

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Speaker 9: Newbres don't eventry.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to think with you.

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Speaker 2: There's no breting.

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Speaker 4: You know me, no me, just I know you don't

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00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 9: Slowly the Puper Pop, Flush Photo Bash, look at the Bank.

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Speaker 2: Yay, we did it, We did it. Thank you so much. Ah,

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00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: that was great. It was beautiful. That was so Fun's

1180
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: so cool. She's great, she's rad, she rolls. That was awesome.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's hang more, Sammi.

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00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 8: That was rad.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know the songs we did in

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00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: this episode, the first song was call Me Home from

1186
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: her album Squeeze that came out in twenty twenty two.

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00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: The second song was in Love with a Memory from

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00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: Blood on the Silver Screen featuring Clara. The third song

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Speaker 1: was called Juna from Clara's album Called Charm which came

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Speaker 1: out in twenty twenty four, which Leon Michael's produced who

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Speaker 1: I Also Work With. Special thanks to Sasami for joining

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Speaker 1: us today. And We'll be back next week with Amy Grant.

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Speaker 1: Norah Jones's Playing Along is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe while

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Speaker 1: you're there. I'm your host, Nora Jones. This episode was

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Speaker 1: recorded by Matt Marinelli, mixed by Jamie Landry. Audio post

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Speaker 1: production and mastering by Greg Tobler. Artwork by Eliza Frye.

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Speaker 1: Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced by Nora Jones and Sarah Oda.

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