1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program that takes you inside 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: NRG Stadium very often into the Hunday Texans Radio studio. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm Mark Vandermer with John Harris. It's great to have 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: you listening to Texans All Access and Johnny. Here we 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: go into the weekend football Friday. You know it's the offseason, 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: but it's never far away, is it, Because it's less 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: than three weeks now that we hit the NFL Draft. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: Three weeks from tonight, we're gonna be doing the Friday 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Night show from right here in this building, unless we 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: do it from six ten, and we'll decide that later. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: But we're gonna be doing the coverage of the draft 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Friday night, rounds two and three. Saturday, we've got the 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: rest of it. We'll have Nick Kissario on after the 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Draft Thursday night, we'll be at Miller Outdoor Theater and 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: do round one. We'll get the picks on as they 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: are selected on the air, right here, right where you're 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: listening right now, whether it's on the Texans app, the 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Odyssey app, whatever app you're listening to, and of course 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: over the year on Sports Radio six ten. Great to 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: see him. It is great to two Mark My favorite 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: of the three nights is Friday. Friday is my favorite 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: night because you have obviously Thursday night with thirty two 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: first round picks. Most years, unless the Patriots have gotten 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: in trouble, you have thirty two picks, and invariably you 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: look at those thirty two and you go, okay, have 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: most of these guys could see that coming. There are 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: a couple of surprises that fell into the second round. Okay, 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: now let's start to look at how the second day 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: is gonna unfold. I think the second day is really exciting, 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: and the fact that Texans have thirty seven, sixty seven 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: and eighty I think right now, with the potential of 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: doing some things in the first round, could open up 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: some more things on Friday. Friday is always my favorite night. Now, 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: for the last few years it had to be our 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: favorite night because we weren't picking on Thursday. Yeah, we 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: would finally get a pick on Friday. And then last year, 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: of course, we got thrown a little bit of a 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: curveball because I don't think anybody really saw Davis Mills coming. 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm really glad that he did and that he's here 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: and that he has been working out at greater Atlanta 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Christian his high school is High School filmed his workout 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: with some of the guys down there in Atlanta. That 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: was kind of cool to see. But I love Friday Night, 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: Friday Night three weeks from tonight. Not that I don't 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: love the first round, especially this year because we have 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: picks three to thirteen, But I love the second round. 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I love the third round. I'd love to see which 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: guys get into that second third round that maybe I 49 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: didn't see coming or maybe fell out of the first round. 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: You know, the DK Metcalf types where DK was thought 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: to go in first round and oh he had a 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: slow three cone time. People kind of browbeat him for that, 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, see, I was like, no, 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: we'll take him. We're good, We're right here at sixty four. 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: We'll take him. And then he turns into a star 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: within the first couple of years. So there's always those 57 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: fun things that happened in the second round, and sometimes 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: that's the third round as well. So many surprises. Let's 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: start here, though. You did a daily brew, which is 60 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: available on the Texans app and Houston Texans dot com 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: on teams with what was a multiple first round draft 62 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: choices Now, look, the Texans don't find themselves in this 63 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: situation very often, shall I say? In fact, I go 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: back to two thousand and four when Jason Babin was 65 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: drafted late in the first round because hey see, the 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: coaches when they wanted so we moved up to and 67 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: we traded. They traded with the Tennessee Titans to make 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: that happen, and the Titans got a boatload of selections 69 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: for that before we get into the piece that did. Yeah, 70 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: I can't remember where I saw this. Are you totally 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: in a thousand percent against making draft day deals with 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: the Titans, the Colts, the Jacks for picks, especially later on, 73 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: not so much anything involving a first round pick. Like 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: if I were them, I think I probably still would 75 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: have done it, considering what the Texans gave up to 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: move into the first round late and get Babin after 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: they already took Dante Robinson with their first first round pick, 78 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: and that was obviously a draft day deal. And that 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: was back when the draft was on Saturday, and he 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: had rounds one, two, and three on Saturday, and it 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: was very weird compared to what we have now. We've 82 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: gotten so used to what we have now. I remember 83 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: when what we have now was proposed and I thought 84 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna be bizarre. Three days now. It is a 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: long haul, There's no doubt about it. No one knows 86 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: this more than you who you do every hour of 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: draft coverage we have, plus all the digital shows and 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: the articles and the specials and everything else. But Johnny, 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm against it. I don't like dealing with teams in 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: my division. The Dolphins once upon a time traded Wes 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: Welker to the New England Patriots. Well, that worked out 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: great for the Dolphins, did it not. I don't know 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: who they got with their second round pick, and they 94 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: also got a seventh in the deal. But Welker had 95 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: a near Hall of Fame run with the New England 96 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Patriots and clearly helped them continue to dominate that division. 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Not that Welker's Randy Moss, but hey, he was a 98 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: big part of their success for a long time. I'm 99 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: not doing deals with the division. Those that half fields 100 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: and McCoy's in your division. You don't do that, I feel. Ironically, 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Babbin ended up going to the Pro Bowl with the Titans. Yeah, 102 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: I know, I know the team that eventually traded that pick, 103 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: he goes to the Pro Bowl with them. We can 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: look back at chuckle, but those were not fun years 105 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: for Jason Babbitt here in Houston. He finally saw the 106 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: light in Tennessee unfortunately, had a couple of good years 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: of Pro Bowl. You're maybe two Pro Bowl years either way. 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem I think with draft picks 109 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: in the in the in the trades, I don't. I 110 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: don't think I have an issue. I think somebody was 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: posing a thought. Could Indianapolis trade up the number three, 112 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: Like Indianapolis calls you with some bang up deal for 113 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: number three? That was going around Twitter. Yeah, and to 114 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: come up and get Malik Willis potentially or get a 115 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: quarterback presumably Malik Willis. And that one's kind of dicey 116 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: because you're kind of handing them League Willis on a platter. 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: Now they're giving you enough picks in return. I would 118 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: have a much I think I would have a much 119 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: easier time with that than trading Deshaun Watson in the 120 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: division as was thrown out there by a few. And 121 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure the Inneapolis Colts would have done if they 122 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: had some of the ammunition, they would have wanted to 123 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: do it. So from that perspective, I don't know if 124 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: I have too big an issue with draft picks, Like, okay, 125 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: if they're gonna trade a multiple picks to get into 126 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: a certain spot and then go pick a player. If 127 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't really thinking about Malik Wills in the first place, 128 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: then so you know, who cares. If it's a player 129 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: that I had earmarked that I really would have liked, 130 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: and I feel like I could get them a few 131 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: picks later and then the Colts come and get him, 132 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: I might feel a little bit, but I don't. I 133 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: don't really don't have a problem trading in the division 134 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: to wait, wait, wait, so draft picks in the division, 135 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: you'd be okay trading the third if you got a 136 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: haul for it to the Colts, even knowing that they're 137 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: gonna take Malik Willis. Yes, I'll take my chances. Court, 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: I'll take my chances. I don't like it, I'll take 139 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: my chances. I'm gonna get more on bats. I gonna 140 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: get a bunch of picks. I don't like it because 141 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: they have to trade into the first round, so I'm 142 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: gonna get probably at first next year. Yeah, I'm probably 143 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna get a second, a couple of seconds, I'm gonna 144 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: get a lot. I'm doing it. I'm gonna let them 145 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: ride the Malik Willis wave and I'm gonna soak it 146 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: in with all these draft picks they're given. Let me 147 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: throw this head because what if, what if that doesn't 148 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: work out for them? Well, that's great, But what if 149 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: it does, Johnny, what if Willis turns out to be 150 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes where we're gonna draft with us at three anyways? Okay, 151 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: but when I don't have then I don't have it. 152 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: But if he turns out to be Mahomes, he's living 153 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: in my division for years. I'm haunted by the cults forever. 154 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: But then with all those draft picks that you get, 155 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: then you formulated defense to stop the twenty twenty two 156 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: version of Patrick Mahomes. I see. I think that you 157 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: have to. It's not just who you need for you. 158 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: If you have a chance to affect them, you do it. Yeah, 159 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: if they want to move up and get Willis, it's 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: just like it is just like when Randolph and Mortimer 161 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: were at the Commodities Exchange and they had the Clarence 162 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: Beaks Report, and somebody said, the Dukes they know something. 163 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: What if the Colts know something? The Colts know that 164 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: Willis is going to be great, They're onto something, right, 165 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: How do they How do they know there's no inside 166 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: information they could get to they have a psychic Miss 167 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: Cleo comes along, a draft expert, and says, Malik Willis 168 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: is going to be better than Patrick Mahomes. And all 169 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're sitting there and they've got this 170 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: incredible quarterback and no matter how good you are, they 171 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: always seem to get over. No. And that happens anyway, 172 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: whether they have Jacobe Brissette, hasselbecka a diaper, need I 173 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: go on? I'm not giving the Colts anything. You know. 174 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: When the Texans traded to get Babin, it was the 175 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty seventh pick in the first round of two thousand 176 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: and four. Are you ready to hear what they gave up? 177 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Are you ready to hear this? I know this is 178 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: A two, A three, a four. And they swapped fifths 179 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: A two at three, at four, and they swapped fifth. Okay, 180 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: so where was Tennessee? They were out of the first round, 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: so they well, wait a minute, you know, twenty seven. 182 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: So the Texans gave up their second which was what overall. 183 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember, I don't have it here, but it 184 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: was they were coming off of a five and eleventh season, Johnny. 185 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: So basically it was like thirty I think it was 186 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: tenth or something in the first round. Yeah, yeah, so 187 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: they were so they were probably thirty seven thirty eight, 188 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: So they essentially swapped those picks. Yeah, and to do 189 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: that a third or fourth in the fifth round swap. Yeah. Man, 190 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: that's a lot of draft cast off. Basically, basically a two, 191 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: three and a four ye to move up to the 192 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: twenty seventh from relatively early in the second you could 193 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: have conceivably gotten Babbin anyway where you were, but you 194 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: traded all that because I want to say one of 195 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: the coaches stood on a table for Babbin and I 196 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: can't remember, I could want, but he finally got going 197 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: back numbers that in college were unbelievable at Western Michigan, 198 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, they were incredible. You watched him and 199 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: you thought this guy twenty seven wasn't It was in 200 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: a horrible spot for him. I thought he, if I 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: remember correctly, I thought he was gonna beat early in 202 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: the second round. So I thought it was I thought 203 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: it was not a bad spot for him. And again 204 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: to you know, Nickossario, I said this a few times 205 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: to us, there's a particular player team is targeting when 206 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: they're trading up. And to the point about the Colts, 207 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: would the Colts be targeting if the Texans made that 208 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: deal to number three? I'm just telling you, if the 209 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: Colts just started throwing in you know, second round or 210 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: third round or fourth rounder blue you know, Saint almost 211 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: gifts cards Prime forty seven of you know, Knights of 212 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Fancy and Steak and all that kind of unlimited cocktail sauce, 213 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: I would have to think about it. I would. I 214 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: would have to think about it. I would have to 215 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: think about it. Now, the Texans sit right now at 216 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: two first round picks. Mark, how many teams in this 217 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: year's draft have two first rounds? It's a lot. What 218 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: is it like, five or six or eight or something? Eight? 219 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: All right? Eight? Eight named, it's three numbers. So I 220 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: was bound to get one, right if this, If that 221 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: sounds odd, you're eight, You're like one fourth twenty five percent. 222 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: I can do that math. Twenty five percent of the 223 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: league has the has sixteen picks. Do you have the 224 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: teams there? Yeah? All right, what's the best team that 225 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: has multiple first round draft choices. Well, the Packers have 226 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: two at twenty two and twenty eight, all right, and 227 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have two at twenty nine and thirty all right. 228 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: So those are they're in there, right, but it's there's 229 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: a difference. It's kind of like what Bill O'Brien said 230 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: about later first round draft choice around. It's valuable. We 231 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: get that right because there's the NFL lottery pick equivalent 232 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: of top fifteen thirteen. However you wanted to find that. 233 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: I get that too, But it's still a multiple first 234 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: round situation for those two teams. Now, the Lions have 235 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: the bread of the sandwich. They have two and thirty two. 236 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: The Eagles and Saints are the meat. The Eagles have 237 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: fifteen and eighteen, Saints have sixteen and nineteen. Giants have 238 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: the bacon. But the three teams to keep an eye 239 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: on the Texans at three and thirteen, the Jets at 240 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: four and ten, the Giants at five and seven, five 241 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: and seven. Now, I thought that was odd, Like how 242 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: many times have teams had picks inside the top thirteen. 243 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: You have to go all the way back to twenty eighteen. 244 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: The Browns at one, took Baker Mayfield, and then at 245 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: number four with somebody's pick that we all remember, they 246 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: took denzil Ward. Cornerbacks. Last that's the last time that 247 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: a team has drafted twice in the first round in 248 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: the top thirteen. Now, last year there were four teams. 249 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: There were four teams, And I did this exercise to 250 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: kind of come away with thinking, all right, how do 251 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: these teams feel they had two first round picks. That's 252 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: a lot of draft capital, right, And I know you 253 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: can't assess everything after year, but you kind of have 254 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: a you kind of have a read on, Okay, how 255 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: how did we do with those two first pick? Those 256 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: two picks? Now, the Jets had two in the top fourteen. 257 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: It took Zach Wilson from BYU quarterback still work in progress, 258 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: but they took Elijah Vera Tucker at fourteen. In fact, 259 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: they moved up to go get him and from USC 260 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: he started sixteen games at guard, was very very good. 261 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins may have been the best. At sixth overall, 262 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: it took Jaylen Waddle NFL rookie record one hundred four receptions, 263 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: franchise record one thousand and fifteen receiving yards for rookie 264 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: six touchdowns. Jayalen Phillips on the edge started just five games, 265 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: but he had eight and a half sacks. So the 266 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Dolphins at six and eighteen did a pretty good job. Now, 267 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: the Jags drafted Trevor Lawrence Chavez etn on the surface 268 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: that was kind of a disasses. ZTN gonna be okay 269 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: this year, I don't know. And the Ravens. I think 270 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: the journy's a little bit out, but you could see 271 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: the arrow going up. They took Rashod Bateman at twenty 272 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: seven and he had think at forty six catches you'll 273 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: played twelve games. And then they had a Dafe away 274 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: from Penn State who was a major project with two 275 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: him a thirty first overall, he had five sacks, didn't start, 276 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: get five sacks, fifteen quarterback hits. So you could say 277 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Dolphins could feel pretty good. The 278 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: Jets felt pretty good. I think if Wilson turns it 279 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: around second year, they'll feel pretty good. The Jags, yea, 280 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: there were so many problems with them last year. But 281 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: I think this exercise told me one main thing, and 282 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: that is, if you have a couple of bats. You're 283 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna hit one, especially in three and thirteen. Yeah, 284 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit, Like one of them is gonna be 285 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: a hit, like Jets Avt is a hit. I think 286 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: watt On Phillips are both hits in Miami. I think 287 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Trevor's gonna be a hit. I have no idea what 288 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: at and come off the injury, but I think Bateman 289 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: and Oway they were a little higher than I had 290 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: them going in the first round, but you could see 291 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: the upside with both of them, and I think both 292 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: of them are showing, hey, they they've got something. And 293 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: they got those two at twenty seven and thirty one. 294 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: So I think with multiple opera oportunities, I think you're 295 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna you've got the opportunity at least with one of them. 296 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: Like you said at Bets, Yeah, you're gonna hit. You're 297 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna smoke a double in the gap. Yeah, And keep 298 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: that article as a reference point, because you know this 299 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: is gonna come up. If the Texans have a situation 300 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: where you know only one of the two of the 301 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: top thirteen works out the way you wanted to, it's 302 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: possible that whoever you pick third is not gonna be 303 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: as good as whoever you pick thirteenth. I mean, come on, 304 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: that's entirely possible, and it happens all the time, like 305 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: you point out here, but man, oh man, it would 306 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: be good to get them both right. Yes, and oh yeah, 307 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about the rest of second day, top of 308 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: the third day of the draft with those two fourth 309 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: round selections, which we think they're gonna trade maybe one 310 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: of them, but we don't know. We're just speculating. It's 311 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: all speculation. It's the draft. We've had weeks and weeks 312 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: of this, but it's never been this exciting because, well, 313 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: if you're going for a quarterback, it could be maybe 314 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: more exciting for the fans. But it's so comforting to 315 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: know that you have a quarterback that you like for 316 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: at least this year to see what he's got and 317 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: move on from there. And if he doesn't work out 318 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: this year, you've got two ones next to you, of 319 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: two ones the year after that, you've got a lot 320 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: of app bats to get a quarterback if you need 321 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: to do it. You brought up the Davis Mills workout stuff. 322 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: I texted you the video and I said, I said, 323 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Mills pro day footage, because that's what it looked like. 324 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: It looked like a pro day. You know, everything's all set. 325 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: But you know, look, I was evaluating Mills, like stepping 326 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: around and like, oh, footwork looks good, the release and everything. 327 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, wait, we've got actual game footage on him, 328 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: like beating NFL teams. We don't need this, But I'm 329 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: looking at it like I would look at pro day footage, 330 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: and you see the difference between what he's doing and 331 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Pro day footage. If the Pro day footage, if the 332 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: guy's putting out pro day footage did stuff like that 333 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more and displayed the footwork the way 334 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: he did, it would help them a little bit more. 335 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Because Mills is clearly at another level right now having 336 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: played in the league for a year. This is hardly 337 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: making news, but you can see it in that workout video. Yeah, 338 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: the kinds of things he's focusing on, what he's sort 339 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: of seeing in his mind. Here's the past rush. I'm 340 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: wiggling out of wiggling not a word he would use, probably, 341 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm maneuvering out of the way. I am hitting a 342 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: guy downfield, I'm hitting him on the sideline. Whoever it 343 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: may be I like the footage a lot. If you 344 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: go back to last year Friday Night and Davis Mills 345 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: is drafted, and of course it just kind of, oh, man, 346 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: what are we thinking? What is everybody thinking? And the 347 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: immediate thought came to my mind at that moment that 348 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: Davis had another year and had he gone back knowing 349 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: where he was going at the end of twenty twenty 350 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: and that was during a COVID year. That was during 351 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: the COVID year. Yeah, they were on the road the 352 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: entire time. Man, had he gone back in a class 353 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: that was coming? And I know the class that's coming. 354 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: I know, usually quarterbacks, I know the classes a few 355 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: years out. Yeah, so I know what's coming in twenty 356 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: twenty three, even though the Jackson darts and Caleb Williams 357 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: is of the world, that's card that are coming in 358 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, at least in the quarterback position. I 359 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: kind of keep up a high, kind of a thirty 360 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: thousand foot view on that. So I knew it was 361 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: coming in twenty twenty two. And I said, this may 362 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: be as good as a future's pick, because essentially what 363 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: you're getting is Davis Mills senior year in the NFL. 364 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: So to your point about him moving around and maneuvering 365 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: and how he looks, the game speed went up for 366 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: him obviously very very quickly, and it was hard for 367 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: him to handle. But when he got back in he 368 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: knew he had to take his game speed up. His 369 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: processing had to go up. Those things had to all 370 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: get to a point where he's processing so fast that 371 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: the game seems slower. And it started too for the 372 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: last five to six games. But I remember saying that 373 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: Draft night, had Davis Mills gone back to Stanford had 374 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: the year that I thought he would have had following 375 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty solid clothes, strong clothes to twenty twenty season, 376 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: he would have been a fifteen pick. And it's sort 377 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: of I don't say it's sort of working out that way, 378 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: But if Davis Mills were in this draft and he 379 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: were not in Houston now the Texans, and this would 380 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: be a question I'd like to ask Nick Cassario that 381 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: if the Deshaun Watson trade would have happened last year, 382 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: one of these two picks, presuming would have been a quarterback, 383 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: I would think would it have been Mac Jones, would 384 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: it have been Trey Lance. You're sitting at three. Would 385 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: it have been one of the you know that quarterback 386 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: would have been your guy, and then you're going forward more, 387 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: do you drop down and take Mills late in the 388 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: first drownd top of the second because you definitely want 389 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: to have him? No, No, but Mills is not Mills 390 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: is Oh it's not available, he's not available, and you 391 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: make that deal. Oh, maybe you're right, Mills would have 392 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: been in that draft. You're right. No, no no, no, you're 393 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: right mark that. If Mills does come out, but you 394 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 1: have the ammunition from the trade, do you do that? 395 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: Do you? If you really like him? Look, I don't 396 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: know if we'll get that out of him. I don't. 397 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't think we would ever get that out of him. 398 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: He would never he would. I could see the look 399 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: on his face if I were to ask him that 400 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: right here, sitting in this chair, he would look at 401 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: me and give me that that look and okay, next 402 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: question because he's not answering. I don't really deal him, 403 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: but I would hear him in him to know what 404 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: they would have done had they have those multiple picks well, 405 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: or would they have circled Davis Mills still or would 406 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: they have taken one of those first round picks. Never 407 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna know, I think, and knock on wood, it's working 408 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: out and hopefully it continues to work out. That they 409 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: got Davis Mills, they got a young quarterback with upside. 410 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: They got him in the third rounds, so they didn't 411 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: have to spend a first round pick they didn't have. 412 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: They could say the first round picks this year and 413 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: put them on positions of need for this team, best 414 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: player available at a position of need that you don't 415 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: have to spend it on a quarterback in a draft 416 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: in which the quarterbacks the kind of hit or miss, 417 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: and you've got enough ammunition to if Davis doesn't hit 418 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: down the road that you could look at quarterbacks as 419 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: well as well. I just feel like if Davis Mills 420 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: had been in this draft, he would be QB one. 421 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm biased to that. I just feel like 422 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: what I sawt Stanford, what I knew he could do, 423 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: coming back and playing for David Shaw on a full season, 424 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: a relatively non COVID season, I think he would have 425 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: been I think he would have been the Cats me 426 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: out if you will, and been a top fifteen pick. 427 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: It's safe to say as long as he stays healthy 428 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: and everything else plays out the way you expected to 429 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: with David Shaw coaching that team and the system they 430 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: run and all of that. All right, Coming up, Johnny, 431 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me what you think these teams are 432 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: thinking as they get ready for the twenty twenty two campaign, 433 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: most notably the draft. But I want to fast forward 434 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: here to what we think they're going to be like 435 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: coming up this season and after that. DJ Fesler from 436 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: side dot com talks with dpcitu about one of the 437 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: prospects in the draft. George karloftis that did more on 438 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: the way here On Texans Radio, Mark Vanderman, John Harris 439 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: keeping you company Friday Evening, Friday Night just got all right. 440 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop there because that would 441 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: really be bad if I continue to sing that song Owens. 442 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: I want to say, is that it? Who sang that song? Now? Mark, 443 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: I have no idea, you're I don't know. Friday Night 444 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: just got paid. No, I remember the song, I just 445 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: don't remember who sang it. No, Montell Owens is a 446 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: football player, Montello football player. I will you said, montell Owens. 447 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: I was like, man, that sounds from Montell Jordan. Ah, Yes, 448 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: sort of in the realm, but not quite there. Anyway, 449 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: It's Friday night, and we're gonna do this, Johnny. What 450 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: these teams are thinking according to you, how they're what 451 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: they're thinking going into the draft, going into the season. 452 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go with the AFC South squads plus 453 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: at least one. We'll see how we do here time wise, 454 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: because time is always a factor. So let's go first one, 455 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. What are they thinking? How are they feeling? 456 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: They've got Trevor aren't going into year two? Obviously a 457 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: new coaching staff. We mentioned Etn in the first segment. 458 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: Is he coming back or not? What's it gonna be 459 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: like when he does come back? All of that, what 460 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: they've added, with that record amount of cap money generated, 461 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: with all those acquisitions, guaranteed money that they've added. So 462 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: where are we at here with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Well, 463 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: I think if you're Doug Peterson, you're feeling pretty confident. 464 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: You're coming in. You don't you don't have you know, 465 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: you've got the pelts on the wall. You're you're that guy, 466 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: So you're gonna come in and you're gonna feel pretty 467 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: good about laying down the foundation, setting the culture, all 468 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that we talk about with new 469 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: head coaches. The guy who's holding the pressure is Trent Balki. 470 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: Trent has Trent Balki has all the pressure right now 471 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: as the GM. This is a huge draft for him. 472 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: They spent a lot of money in free agency. He's 473 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: feeling a pressure. But I don't think Doug Peterson will. 474 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: I don't think Trevor Lawrence will. I still think this 475 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: is a relatively young team. You know, Josh Allen the 476 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: defensive end, Josh Allen is still a young, explosive pass rusher. Uh, 477 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, Trevor's going into only a second year. I 478 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: do think to keep an eye on the offensive line. 479 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: I think losing Brandon Linder was was tough. He was 480 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: a strong, solid player for them in the middle for 481 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: a long time, and they're gonna they're gonna miss him, 482 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: and they're gonna miss aj Can. So they've got some 483 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: replacements there, But I still feel like they're gonna feel 484 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more confident. Doug Peterson with Trevor Lawrence, 485 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: with Christian Kirk and Marvin Jones and weapons and etn 486 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: comes back and James Robinson comes out, They're gonna feel 487 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: much much better. They're gonna feel like their offense can 488 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: put up points on the board at a minimum, and 489 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: then they'll see where the defense is at that point. 490 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna be feeling pretty confident going 491 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: into the year because they are a young team. There's 492 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: not much to lose at this point. They've been probably 493 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: not gonna get the number one overall pick next year 494 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: and don't need it. They've got Trevor, so I think 495 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: as long as Trevor is making those strides, are gonna 496 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: feel like this season's a positive of moving the right direction. 497 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Tennessee Titans. Obviously, Ryan 498 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: Tannehill did not have a good game in the playoffs. 499 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: The interceptions what a concern. A lot of people thought, well, 500 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: maybe they should go in another direction. That's only if 501 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: they could have acquired an Aaron Rodgers or somebody like Dad. 502 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: Obviously it didn't happen, and I think they have to 503 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: feel pretty good about where they're at. They know they 504 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 1: have a quarterback that is capable of getting them or 505 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: helping them get the top seed in the AFC. Just 506 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: like we saw last year, so let's see if he 507 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: can do it again. If you're the Tennessee Titans, how 508 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: do you think they're feeling going into the draft, going 509 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: into the season. Nervous. I think it's a team that 510 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: they step back and they've got a bunch of elite 511 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: talent and a lot of spots. Jeffrey Simmons up front 512 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: of the D line, Hero Lander in the outside, Kevin Bayard, 513 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: it's safety, AJ Brown, a receiver. They've got a lot 514 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: of wet end of course, you know the King and 515 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: running back now coming back healthy. They've got a lot 516 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: of elite talent across the board, Taylor lu Wana left tackle. 517 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: So they feel confident in what talent they have. But 518 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: then why is it not coming together? Why are they 519 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: not going back to the AFC Championship game? Why are 520 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: they not getting beyond the AFC Championship game? What is missing? 521 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: I think Ryan Tannehill carries a lot of pressure coming 522 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: into this year, a lot, And that's gonna be telling 523 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: because last year in some games, when he started feeling 524 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: the pressure in individual games, our game four interceptions, playoff 525 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: game three interceptions, when he internalized that pressure, it was 526 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: tough for Tannehill and the Titans offense, and look, we 527 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: didn't face Eric Henry. I get it understood completely. But 528 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: they had theta Foreman. They still had a solid and 529 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: strong running game with Deonte Foreman and with Dantrell Hilliard. 530 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: That wasn't the issue. The issue was Tannehill not coming 531 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: up as big as he needed to consist. Now, he 532 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: made certain plays like to play against US when Jacob 533 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: Martin has it dead to rights on the sack and 534 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: the game is completely changed. He gets out at those 535 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: it to Nick Westbrook, Kene and where you go. There 536 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: was not enough for that because the biggest games the 537 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: last couple of years both playoff games. Ryan Tannehill didn't 538 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: show up to play. Yeah, and that is gonna put 539 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him. There's obviously gonna be 540 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: some pressure on John Robinson, right Rabel to get more 541 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: out of this team. I think the Titans are carrying 542 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure coming in, not because they don't 543 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: have the talent, but because at key positions quarterback, do 544 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: they have the right guy? Mike Rabel is gonna have 545 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: to answer questions about that if Tannehill struggles, and he 546 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: doesn't want to answer questions about that. And oh, by 547 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: the way, this Mike Mularkey podcast that dropped well dropped 548 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: two years ago, but it's now resurfacing now as it 549 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: pertains to the coaching decision. That could also have an 550 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: impact on John Robinson, who was the GM at the time. 551 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: So a lot of that is playing. I think the 552 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: Titans carry a ton of pressure coming into this season 553 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: the draft. They're at a point where in the draft 554 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: they could just go find elite talent, best player available, 555 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: come on, let's go. I don't think a quarterback is 556 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be there for them where they're gonna find 557 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: someone as a better option than Tannehill. So they're gonna 558 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: draft best player available, what the spots are drafting and 559 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: add more elite talent. So they're gonna be fine that way. 560 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: It's the matter if can they deal with the pressure 561 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: of the big moment, and that is going to be 562 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: a massive issue. I think for Tennessee to year well 563 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: it is. And I think that the health of Derek 564 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: Henry is just such a big concern. You just have 565 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: to hope that he If you're a Titans fan and 566 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm not that he bounces back, well, I don't wish 567 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Ill will on anybody. I think he should take a 568 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: year off, Johnny, Just please. I don't like what I 569 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: wanted Andrew Luck to do and he ended up retiring. 570 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: If I keep talking about this, maybe Henry will take 571 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: a clue and just go ahead and retire. That would 572 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: be really helpful to the cause for the rest of 573 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: the AFC South. And speaking up the rest of the 574 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: AFC South, the Indianapolis Colts, Johnny, how are they feeling? 575 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: What are they thinking going into the draft, going into 576 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: the season. They just acquired Matt Ryan. They feel pretty 577 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: good about their football team. I know they're not perfect, 578 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: but they feel like they're good to go. Wentz left 579 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: them down. I think it was more than Wentz, but 580 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: Wentz let them down those last couple of games, especially 581 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: the one against the Jaguars last game of the season, 582 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: and they were unable to close the deals. So what 583 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: are they thinking. That was a veteran team last year 584 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: that started off the year awfully. They did not play 585 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: well early in the season and it cost them against 586 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee both times. I mean, that was the difference in 587 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: the Colts not getting to the playoffs because they played 588 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: so horribly against Tennessee. And you watch those teams straight up, 589 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I thought the Colts at full strength 590 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: were betting the Titans at full strength, even with Derick Henry. 591 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I just felt that last year with the Colts. But 592 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: given the way the Wentz thing went down, bringing in 593 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and other quarterback that's in this upper thirties, 594 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: later thirties, there's gonna Ryan's gonna have some pressure, but 595 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: then again, he's coming in somewhat fresh, but he's gonna 596 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: be thought of as I don't want to say the savior, 597 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: but a whole lot better than Carson Wentz. They're gonna 598 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: be a ton of expectations on him and Frank Reich 599 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: and Chris Ballard. For as good as those two are. 600 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Jim Ursy was not happy at all with how that 601 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: season went down, not at all. And in Ersey's eyes, 602 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: it was Wentz. And where did the idea of Wentz 603 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: come from? It came from Frank and then Chris pulled 604 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: the trigger on the trade. They're gonna be carrying a 605 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. This is a seven Pro Bowl player 606 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: team seven and they didn't get to the playoffs. Now, 607 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: I said earlier, Tennessee is gonna be carrying a ton 608 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: of pressure more than anybody else. I think Frank Reich 609 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: and Chris Ballard have a ton of pressure on them 610 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: this year to make sure that, hey, this is a 611 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: playoff team and then b it's a playoff team that 612 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: can go make some noise once they play in those 613 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: games of January. If not, it could be a very 614 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: interesting offseason in twenty twenty three for the Colts. Let's 615 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: go out of conference and I'll even go out schedule 616 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: here because the Texans played this team last year. But 617 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: I find it intriguing the San Francisco forty nine ers 618 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: who put in so much. They invested so much to 619 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: get Trey Lance. This wasn't just a flyer end of 620 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: the first round. Let's draft a quarterback just in case, 621 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: or we really like him and we want them to 622 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: take over for Jimmy g They went all in on 623 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: Trey Lance and Garoppolos still there on their roster. A 624 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: lot of talk about trade possibilities, but again talk is talk, 625 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: and it's outside the building. I'm still blown away how 626 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: many people in our business and the media business. Now. 627 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: I know we kind of overlap because we are team 628 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: people and media people, but how many people here reports 629 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: and then they respeak these things, these reported items, as 630 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: if they're facts. I don't know. You don't exactly know 631 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: what's going on. Things are reported, and you think you 632 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: know what's going on anyway. Garoppolo obviously, well I shouldn't 633 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: say obviously. I would think they want to trade him. 634 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I would think they want to move him. He's hurt. 635 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: It's difficult. Are you gonna get full value you want 636 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: to move on to Lance or do you do? They 637 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: feel like Lance is ready right now opening day, meaning 638 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: right now to take over their football team and lead 639 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: them to a playoff run at the very least. I mean, 640 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: this team is a super Bowl caliber team. Is he 641 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: there and available to do this at the level they 642 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: need him to do it? Or are they willing to 643 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: hang on to Jimmy Garoppolo one more year and let 644 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: Lance watch learn, maybe take over if Jimmy g fails 645 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: or gets hurt. I mean it comes down to dollars 646 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: and cents. I don't know financially what that would mean 647 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: if they kept Jimmy, but obviously him on the roster 648 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: and they got to the start of the new league year, 649 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: so obviously they've found a way to keep him there. Financially, 650 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: So I think they're going to fire away with Jimmy Well, 651 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: I should hold on. Jimmy still hurt, So I think 652 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: at that point Trey Lance is gonna get every rep 653 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: and OTAs he's gonna get every rep in mini camp. 654 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna be ready 655 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: to go. So from that standpoint, I think Trey Lance 656 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: is gonna get a lot of reps. I think Trey 657 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: Lance should start every preseason game, get him back comfortable, 658 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: and I think at that point Trey Lance would show 659 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers that he is that guy. Mark. 660 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: We saw it in a sixty minute game. It's just 661 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: a sixty minute game, but we saw it. We saw 662 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: the bumps and the warts early in that game, and 663 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: he was having a hard time kind of getting over 664 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: some of those. It was keeping us in the game. 665 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: But then in the second half when plays had to 666 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: be made, Trey Lance made those plays. It was just 667 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: a second start. When he starts again, no matter where 668 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: that is in twenty twenty two, it's gonna be his 669 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: third start. That's it. I mean, Davis Mills had that 670 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: many starts by week five of last year. So I think, 671 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: and I said this going into the playoffs, I thought 672 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: the Niners would be better off with Trey Lance. Now 673 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: they got to the NFC Championship game, but I think 674 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Trey Lance gives them something different than teams have to 675 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: prepare for that Jimmy Garoppolo is not. And I think 676 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: if you let Trey Lance work through his warts and 677 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: his issues, I didn't get the end of it, you're 678 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna end up with a pretty nice looking young quarterback. 679 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: Now how confident of the forty nine ers in that 680 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: that's going to be the issue? So I think they 681 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: will try to get back to Jimmy at some point, 682 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: but in the end they'll find out, No, Trey, we 683 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: made this move for a reason. Trey Lance is our guy. 684 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Trey Lance and then they're gonna 685 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: take off from there. All right, Well tell me this, 686 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: and this is a quickie here because we're running out 687 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: of time in this segment. But the New England Patriots 688 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: Johnny Texans, don't play them for the first time and forever, 689 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: you don't play the Patriots, right saying what fourteen? That's 690 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: team first time that you're not playing them. They feel 691 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: like they're in the division, but they're clearly not. And 692 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: how are they feeling after seeing all the talent acquisition 693 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: around the conference? Do they feel that confident in their 694 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: coaching ability? We still don't know exactly how they're going 695 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: to handle the offense with no Josh McDaniels and the defense. Okay, 696 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: you know they can make plays, but is it enough? 697 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: Is it enough for their liking? Apparently it has to be. Look, 698 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: we still love the draft to go. Maybe there's some 699 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: difference makers there, but how are they feeling? What are 700 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: they thinking right now? Well, no, JC Jackson, I think 701 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: that's big. He goes out to the Chargers. They didn't 702 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: make like last offseason they made a ton of editions. 703 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that any of those those editions you go, yeah, 704 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: they were, they were groundbreaking. I mean at the time 705 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: it was like, wow, there's been a lot of money. 706 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: But I don't think any of them were like, yeah, 707 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: that guy fits perfectly. So from that perspective, I thought 708 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: they were decent. I don't think they were great. I 709 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: think it's a team that lost another starting offensive lineman 710 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: and Shack Mason. I think that's gonna hurt them a 711 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: little bit. They've lost Joe Touney at some point. So 712 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: it's it feels like a nine and eight football team, Mark, 713 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: it really does. I think Mac Jones making strides. Who's big. 714 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: I think in year two he'll be a little bit better, 715 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: but I think he'll have to be because at the vision, 716 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: especially in Miami and Buffalo are that much better. So 717 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: it feels like a nine and eight football team to me, 718 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: like win one, lose one, win one, lose one. But 719 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: at some point Belichick, because of his coaching prowess, is 720 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna steal a game that he probably shouldn't, sort of 721 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: like the game they won at Buffalo last year. Should 722 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: never won that game, but they did. But it feels 723 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: like a nine and eight football team, and it feels 724 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: like right now, talent wise, it's third in the division. 725 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,479 Speaker 1: I think Buffalo is clearly the leader. It's a matter 726 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: of Miami in New England kind of battling for a second. 727 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: Right now. I put Miami head. That team is just 728 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: way too talented at this point, and so I would 729 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: go to Miami at two in New England at three. Johnny, 730 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: thanks for the info, appreciate it. As always. You gotta Mark, 731 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: thank you, everybody. Have a great weekend, All right. DJ 732 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: Fessler with dpcity next on George carloftis see what he's 733 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: all about. We'll actually hear it, but it's a visual thing. 734 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: On the radio two. It's theater of the mind. It's 735 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: all next here on Texans Radio. Mark Vandermer with you 736 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: on Texans Radio Now, a lot of talk about these 737 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: draft prospects and why not when you have the number 738 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: three pick, you have the number thirteen pick, and a 739 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: whole lot of other picks to think about. We get 740 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: to know them. And on Houston, Texans dot Com and 741 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: the Texans APB Deep City has been catching up with 742 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: reporters and others who are very familiar with some of 743 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: the top prospects. One of them, George karloftis so let's 744 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: get to know more about him as dep chats with 745 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: DJ Fesler from SI dot Com. DJ, welcome in. I'm 746 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: excited to talk a little bit of Boilermaker football with 747 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: you today. Yeah, absolutely, thanks for having me. All right, So, 748 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: George Karloft, his nickname is the Greek Freak for a 749 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of people that don't know. He's got a really 750 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: unique story about how he came from Greece and ended 751 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: up in West Laffie at Indiana. Can you give us 752 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: some background on George and how he came to be 753 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: the prospect that he is at Purdue today. You know, obviously, 754 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: he was born in Greece grew up there. Unfortunately, though, 755 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: one of the reasons he ended up coming to the 756 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: United States was the passing of his father, Matthew, back 757 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, and that kind of sparked the decision 758 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: of his mom, Amy to move the family back to 759 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: her hometown of West Lafayette, where he ended up attending 760 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: high school in Greece. He kind of grew up he 761 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: was a multi sport athlete. He played soccer, He's a 762 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: chek at field athlete, had some background at water polo 763 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: as well, but nothing in terms of American football, so 764 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: he wasn't really exposed to that until he came to 765 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: United States at thirteen. Played football at West Lafayett High 766 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: School and he had some poking and prodding from his 767 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: friends encouraging him just because of his size his athletic 768 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: background to kind of give it a try. Coaches there too, 769 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: were also trying to encourage him to join the team 770 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: as well, and he tried it out and Obviously it's 771 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: worked out for the better here for him. Yeah, I 772 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: mean that's an understatement. If anything, he might be the 773 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: first boiler Maker taken in the top ten of the 774 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: NFL draft since I had to look this up since 775 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, when the Steelers drafted Rod Woodson with 776 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: the number ten pick overall ten Eagle higher than ten 777 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: as well. So, how has karloft Is dealt with just 778 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: being in the national spotlight at Purdue, coming from Greece? 779 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: How has he dealt with all that surrounding him? Yeah, 780 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: I think he's handled it great. You know, obviously not 781 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: as much experience as some other prospects in the world 782 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: of football, but he's come into the Purdue football program, 783 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: played a played defensive line in the Big Ten as 784 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: a freshman. And if that doesn't show you that, you know, 785 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: the moments aren't too big for him, then I don't 786 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: really know what does. The comparisons were always going to 787 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: be their predecessors, Ryan Kerrigan as having a good NFL 788 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: career he was at Purdue, and then when you just 789 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: skip ahead to this year and you just looked at 790 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: look at this draft class alone, you don't even have 791 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: to go outside of the Big Ten to see a 792 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: player like Aiden Hutchinson from Michigan that's headlining this year's 793 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: draft class, and he's being mentioned with names like that. 794 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: But I think through all of this, he's kind of 795 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: focused on himself. It's always been a hard working kid. 796 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: He really focuses on the team, and I think that's 797 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: what's really helped him have that success at the college 798 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: level to put him in position to be as high 799 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: of a draft pick as you kind of mentioned. Yeah, 800 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: he was one of the top freshmen in the country 801 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: when he sort of burst onto the scene in twenty nineteen. 802 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: He seems like he's just always around the ball. So 803 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: give us a snapshot of some of the strengths of 804 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: his game and how Purdue was really able to maximize 805 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: his skill set in that defense. Yeah, Obviously, the biggest 806 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 1: thing for him is just his size and his strength. 807 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 1: He's got great size, about six four, two seventy pounds, 808 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: and throughout the years he's become accustomed to really handling 809 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: some double triple teams as that primary pass rushing threat 810 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: on the Purdue defensive line, and that's really what he's 811 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: been known for, is that power pass rusher. But in 812 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: this past year, especially, Purdue went through some defensive coaching 813 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: staff turnover, brought in some new coaches, kind of changed 814 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: the philosophy of this defense into more aggressive scheme. And 815 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: because of that, I felt like the Boilmakers did a 816 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: really good job of moving Karloftas around. He was playing 817 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: inside at times, he's playing outside at times, different sort 818 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: of techniques allowing him to play standing up or in 819 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 1: a three point stance, just really mixing up the fronts 820 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: to allow him to generate pressure from different areas of 821 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: the defensive line. And I think you really saw him 822 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: prove himself in terms of his versatility, just showing that 823 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: he was more than just that power rusher, someone who's 824 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: gonna kind of barrel through your chest every single snap. 825 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of things going for him now, 826 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: and he was able to really showcase that. I think 827 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: this year there's DJ Fessler from si dot com chatting 828 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: with Dpcito about George Karloftas that's gonna do it. Oh, 829 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: by the way, you can catch more of that and 830 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: all these draft prospect interviews on Houston Texans dot com 831 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: add the Texans app. I want to thank Johnny. Of 832 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: course we're being on the show as always and thank 833 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: you for listening. Robert Harris our producer, no relation to Johnny. 834 00:41:53,400 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, Robert. Have a great weekend everyone, and go Texans.