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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a recession in my business.

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Speaker 1: It's one more thing.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to that. Joe was out for a

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Speaker 2: little bit during the radio show today, and when he

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Speaker 2: like the baseball players have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be really cool. I mean, just just to

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Speaker 2: So Hansen came up with He asked AI to come

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Speaker 2: up with walk up music for Joe, and he's got

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Speaker 2: three different examples, I guess, which are all terrible, I'm told. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Before before you hit that. I think that the good

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Speaker 1: folks might find this at least mildly interesting. We can't

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Speaker 1: like a song, you know, a song that's been on

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Speaker 1: the radio, song that's been published, because the radio industry

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Speaker 1: has had decades long agreements with the licensing services about

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Speaker 1: that works. And so, you know, the various companies that

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why people hold to that in the

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Speaker 2: modern world. If I'm a band, I want people playing

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Speaker 2: my music is often as much. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: I don't get a cent I want it out there

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Speaker 2: people thinking about it, thinking, oh, yeah, that song, I

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know exactly what the dynamics are there.

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Speaker 1: It could be the licensing companies themselves that are they're

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Speaker 1: struggling for relevance in the twenty first century. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, AI, which is the new frontier Jack, Katie Michael,

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Speaker 1: AI has come up with some for me specifically, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Joe Getty walk up. He's oh, this is exciting.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I can picture this. I can picture you walking

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a shirtless Viking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're clearly.

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Speaker 1: Shirtless, blowing my long hair.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I was picturing shirtless also oily shiny. And

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Speaker 1: See, I'm not in a room in this city. I

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Speaker 2: I'm picturing the Gollum picture.

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Speaker 3: We aid, not too hard, not too long, agoffl Wow,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so there's one. But to get away from

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Speaker 2: the theme of what we're talking about here, how about

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Speaker 2: the fact that, hey, I created that. That sounds like

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Speaker 1: For right, and we all know his name because he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing and scary and discouraging and fun all

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Speaker 2: Anyway, HiT's her another one.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, I'm hosting a morning TV show with Kelly rip

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Speaker 1: On in this scenario, I feel like you're pointing to

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Speaker 1: And here's a shot of me with my head thrown

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this is exactly I went to Snooze E

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Speaker 1: It sounds like more like a morning TV for house

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I certainly picture you with your jacket off,

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Speaker 2: What a good thing for a show? Why is dad mad?

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Speaker 2: I like that first one though, Give me the first

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Speaker 1: Take my shirt off again when I'm at home, walk.

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Speaker 2: In the wind, and she needs me so badly now,

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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, Viking or Scotsman. Maybe even weren't a kilt

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Speaker 1: my only complaint about when I have to take a

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Speaker 1: not only a chat with the great Tim Sanderfer today,

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Speaker 2: What about the creepy factor? They're dead, dead bodies?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think you get past that pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: The first time he's been around a dead body, because

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Speaker 1: Well, whoa, whoa, whoa?

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Speaker 2: How do you how do you end up? I mean,

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Speaker 2: manipulating one, dressing it, that sort of stuff. Right, So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't mind being around dead people. I don't

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Speaker 2: Is the question when when you know, when your boss says,

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Speaker 2: I think there's other things I'd rather do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the gig. If he tells you, hey,

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Speaker 2: If I'm at the Morgan, they're in the and then

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Speaker 1: And see if this person's alive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, jeez, that a dead groan?

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Speaker 3: Or is that an I'm still here grown?

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Speaker 2: Up or whatever. Yeah, it does happen now, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, the expression saved by the bell. I just

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Speaker 1: You're totally right.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, because I I remember looking this up.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows that when they say saved by the bell.

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Speaker 2: But uh, you're pretty far along in the process. If

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Speaker 1: You know. Honestly, I think most of that was to

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Again, the reasons, as we discussed him during the show,

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Speaker 1: reasons to be glad you live in the twenty first century.

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Speaker 2: So the bell's ringing and say, hey, Jaez, oh my god, Jim,

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Speaker 2: And then you say, I am really sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: Our bad, my bad. I take full responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Look, you died, well you didn't die, but we thought

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Speaker 1: you died. It was already five o'clock. I was I

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you could have said something. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: You, but right, well in the seventeen hundreds, a brain

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Speaker 1: scan was hey, right, And if you didn't respond to that,

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Speaker 1: he's dead. Put the string in his hand just in case,

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Speaker 1: ight around his finger. That's interesting. Yeah, grim's fair. Huh. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: this guy, uh, he says, I'm a mortician. I love

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Speaker 2: That's nice.

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Speaker 1: That's some nice, nice writing. I think I'll keep doing this.

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Speaker 1: But it's honorable work, and God bless you if you

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Speaker 2: I guess one of the reasons I think it's a

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Speaker 2: His whole plan was to go to Uh. Of course

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Speaker 2: he might be imprisoned now with fifty deaths.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should have looked into that. Maybe that's the reason.

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Speaker 2: But he just that was his he wanted to do that.

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Speaker 2: It was his family business, and he wanted to stay

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Speaker 2: That's what he always says. This is not for everybody,

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Speaker 1: What my mom DIDs chaplain, right, it's.

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Speaker 2: Sort of a calling. So maybe that's it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then if you're okay, go ahead and ring the bell.

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Speaker 2: I'll be right in.

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Speaker 1: as long as you know, as long as somebody hears it.

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Speaker 1: just keep ringing it. If you ring the bell, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, once every fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: If you ring the bell five thirty pm, it's going

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Speaker 2: to be nine am earliest before we can get to everybo.

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Speaker 1: Hey, relaxed for a while. You've been sick. You need

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Speaker 2: The lighter side of being buried alive