WEBVTT - “I’VE BEEN A TRUCK DRIVER FOR 35 YEARS”

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<v Speaker 2>M Paul from Bailey, Hello, Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you can you turn off the TV? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>on the Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm sorry, dad, where's the remote? I was my

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<v Speaker 2>dad in the truck right now? Just a second.

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<v Speaker 3>You're with your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you're with your dad in a truck where there's

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<v Speaker 1>a TV.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a semi truck. He's a truck driver.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. Yeah, what uh wait you're wait what so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a TV in the semi truck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He he has like one of the big semi trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a shower and like everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, there's a shower in the semi This is like

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<v Speaker 1>an r V.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of like an RV.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, that's cool, man. What what?

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<v Speaker 3>Where?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you guys doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Where in Texas right now? And we're in Amarillo, Texas

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<v Speaker 2>and we're broke down?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you work with your dad?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I'm just traveling with him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. What do you where?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you Where are you guys traveling to?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're supposed to be going to California, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get a trust fixed tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>What's you guys are broken down? You guys are on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the road.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're at a shop right now. You're at a shop, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like a if they fixed the truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay, So you guys are just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sitting around in the truck while it's getting fixed. Yeah, okay, cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I talk to your dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Man? My mam?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>Dwayne?

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne? Dwayne mean the traveling truck driver?

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<v Speaker 3>Where we go?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what? What's life like?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>What? How? How long have you been driving this truck? For? All?

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<v Speaker 3>Been driving a truck?

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<v Speaker 1>You've been driving truck for thirty five years? Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>must have seen some crazy shit along along your thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five years.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot, a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man. I don't even know where to start with

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<v Speaker 1>my questions. Do you have time? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you have anything else to do. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>got you in a good place right now because I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine you have anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Literally can't go anywhere?

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<v Speaker 3>No, can't do nothing. Tell me get it fixed tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>So this feels like a base question, but I might

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<v Speaker 1>as well ask you, is that What's the craziest thing

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<v Speaker 1>you think you've witnessed over these thirty five years?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? My god? I woods delivering local and Minneapolis area

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<v Speaker 3>and I was backing into doc and I hit something

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<v Speaker 3>and I go, what the hell is that? And I

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<v Speaker 3>thought they put a dumpster outside the dock cannot be

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<v Speaker 3>backed inside of a building, but it's it's black and

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<v Speaker 3>I hit a parked car and I got out and

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<v Speaker 3>next thing you know, here comes a naked blonde, then

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<v Speaker 3>a naked brunette. So that's the craziest ship I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait they there were just two naked girls in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the park car.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and alcohol involved on their part.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird, weird. Oh yeah, what now? Now? Where what's the

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<v Speaker 1>farthest distance you've driven in one day?

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<v Speaker 3>That was on paper walks? So I probably did twelve

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<v Speaker 3>hundred miles. And when we had paper, Now we got

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<v Speaker 3>computers hard. We can't lie no more.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to lie about how long you've driven for,

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<v Speaker 1>like for to make money or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you'd worked twenty hour days, twenty one, twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it was. And I'd leave Minneapolis, drive to La

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<v Speaker 3>and La. I'd go to Chattanooga and I might lay

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<v Speaker 3>down for eight hours. Back then, and that was twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five years ago when I used to do that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what is the worst diarrhea you've ever gotten from

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<v Speaker 1>a gas station? Sandwich?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? God, you know, just going to the truck stop

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<v Speaker 3>and eat, You're gonna have diarrhea. You're gonna shoot here.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you must have, you must have, Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you how do you do food? Because I assume you've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this for thirty five years, and I assume

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not exclusively eating at Circle K's and other

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<v Speaker 1>gas stations, because I don't think you could make would

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<v Speaker 1>still be alive if that was how you did it?

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? God? I mean now I'll eat out of the

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna stove and I got it all in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you can cook it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but you just stop. The truck stops eat

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<v Speaker 3>are you stop? There's a I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard of it, the Big Texan restaurant. Thank got

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<v Speaker 3>a seventy two on steak. If you can eat that

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<v Speaker 3>in an hour than it's free?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you would You've never tried it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>God, no, would that not be the greatest accomplishment of

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<v Speaker 1>your thirty five year career?

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<v Speaker 3>It would be mm hmm?

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell else was?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which gas station has the best food? From your

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five years of experience.

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<v Speaker 3>It used to be that. I'm gonna say that Petro

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<v Speaker 3>trucks up used to be a good one. Now they

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<v Speaker 3>all went downhill. They're all going to fast food. They're

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<v Speaker 3>taking their restaurants out and just putting all fast food

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<v Speaker 3>in m H. So you get tired of SUBWAYE, McDonald's

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<v Speaker 3>and Rby's and all these trucks sounds. You get tired

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<v Speaker 3>of beating that ship all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about when you're driving?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, what don't you think about? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you think about everything. It stucks being gone from your families.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean since last August, because I've been home two days.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're doing it for financial reasons, because but paying

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<v Speaker 3>off a lot of bills.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're telling, you're saying from August of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two to now April twenty twenty three, you have

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<v Speaker 1>been home for only two days.

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<v Speaker 3>Two days. Wow, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. And so you're on the you're just and every

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<v Speaker 1>single day you're you're just driving these long, crazy distances.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's gnarly. Uh Is it usual? Is it usually

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<v Speaker 1>like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? No? I mean anymore, you can drive maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>seven hundred mile day, seven and forty and we can

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<v Speaker 3>only drive so many hours more than hours a day.

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<v Speaker 3>So but I gotta tell you too. My daughter was

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<v Speaker 3>at your show there in Chicago. Uh, what it was?

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<v Speaker 3>When were you in Chicago? Just what?

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of weeks?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>And her boyfriend was up on stage with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait a minute, who's her boyfriend, Tristan?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember d EMPTY?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, there was a guy who came on stage

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<v Speaker 1>to tell it, talk about how he fucking would make

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<v Speaker 1>d MT in.

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<v Speaker 3>His Yes, yes, yes, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever done have you ever done his DMT?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? God, no, God no, I you know I get

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<v Speaker 3>drug tested too much. I haven't did god thirty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's that That sound that is words spoken

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<v Speaker 1>like a man who is on a podcast that is

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<v Speaker 1>being released to the public. So I'm curious. It's cool

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<v Speaker 1>that you have your daughter with you or she. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that must be really nice to have somebody with you,

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<v Speaker 1>right like you're Mainly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good because it's probably her last trip. She's eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>she's home school, and so she does everything online and

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<v Speaker 3>she probably ain't gonna want to come with me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh did she used to come with you a lot?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? All the time? Oh, okay, come with me for

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<v Speaker 3>a month. At a time, and this time she's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be out three weeks with.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and she's home school, so she's like on the

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<v Speaker 1>road doing school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And is there a teacher that comes with you or

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<v Speaker 1>is it it's all over zoom?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's just all online. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah wi fi and that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't No, I don't. She off my hospops

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<v Speaker 3>off the phone and hance for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Fascinating. And uh you're are you? Are you married?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh does your wife ever come with you?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I wish.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. What does she do and that decides?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Not a school box, but the fan picked up

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<v Speaker 3>kids and drop all along.

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<v Speaker 1>So both of both of you guys do the driving

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<v Speaker 1>the transporting. Yeah, okay, just.

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<v Speaker 3>She's home all the time, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ever kid home anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Is is your daughter your only kid?

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<v Speaker 3>I have one, wife has one and DISI ours together.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, he's the baby. Do you get to and

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<v Speaker 1>your your other kids? Do you get to see them very often?

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, the one in Houston every now and then the

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<v Speaker 3>one in Fargo. I I'd never get to Fargo. So

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<v Speaker 3>so you appreciate tattoos my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I appreciate tattoos? Yes, I've you know, I iiate tattoos.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no interest in getting one myself. But why

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<v Speaker 1>do you ask? Are you do you? Are you a

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos man? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I got just a few of them, but I got

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<v Speaker 3>one of that. I'm into the zones both. I got

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<v Speaker 3>one of Fred Banging Wilman's Doggie sells.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to you gotta send us a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of that ship?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how, but.

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<v Speaker 3>My daughter contigurettes how to do all that? O? God,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if I can't even show it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when did you get When did you get a

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo of Fred Banging Wilma?

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<v Speaker 3>God, I have had that for Oh my god? When

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<v Speaker 3>did I get that one? Probably twenty twenty five years ago? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Did you get it on your like like like

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<v Speaker 1>the crux of your elbow so that when you like

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<v Speaker 1>like flex your arm back and forth, it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>so that he's thrusting?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, where is this?

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<v Speaker 1>You got it up on the bicep okay? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>after twenty five years does like does how does it look?

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<v Speaker 1>Has it faded?

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<v Speaker 3>At all?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is Fred still going strong?

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<v Speaker 3>It still looks pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you what inspire what inspired you

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<v Speaker 1>to want to get that?

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<v Speaker 3>God, I seen another tattoo something like that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I knew I was with a poststones and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I gotta get one. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you ever get one of what's the mom from

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<v Speaker 1>the Jetsons?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, what is her name?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta get you gotta get a you gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>a Jetson sex one. On the other hand, the daughter, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know his ways his wife something, Oh Jane, Jane,

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<v Speaker 1>Jane his way. Okay, yeah, Jane and George Jane and

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<v Speaker 1>George Jetson. Okay, there we go. Yes, you should get

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo of them fucking If you're looking for new

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo ideas, I could do that, dude, hell ya, hell yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have any other tattoos?

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<v Speaker 3>And I got one of Fred holding Tebbles when she

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<v Speaker 3>was a baby. Almost we're almost named our daughter Tebble.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the you know what, this is kind of cute,

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<v Speaker 1>like your body is like a comic stre if. The

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<v Speaker 1>first panel here were fucking his wife, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>second panel there's a baby. Uh, why so this you

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a lifelong thing for you, the Simpsons

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<v Speaker 1>and not the Flintstones.

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<v Speaker 3>Why setting a neighbor and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even tell you how many years ago, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seven maybe twenty eight years second a neighbor and before

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<v Speaker 3>cell phones and all that. She was on the phone

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<v Speaker 3>talking to Fred and about my body part and she

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<v Speaker 3>called it Fred. That girl started calling me thread from

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<v Speaker 3>then on.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, say this, say this, say this one

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<v Speaker 1>more time. Who they started calling you said something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were talking about your body part.

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<v Speaker 3>My wife was on the phone talking their friend called

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<v Speaker 3>my body part Fred. And this little girl that was two,

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<v Speaker 3>and that girl started.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, so your your wife is talking about your

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<v Speaker 1>dick on the phone to her friend. She calls it

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<v Speaker 1>and she calls your dick Fred. Yeah, and the little

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<v Speaker 1>then the girls's baby's thing that's calling you Fred. It's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>God damn well, I'm it's good. She was calling uh,

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<v Speaker 1>your penis Fred and not pebbles or maybe or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>your penis is Fred and your balls are pebbles. You

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<v Speaker 1>take Fred and you go bam bam.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's right, bam bam.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you what do you think of the Flintstones movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I've seen them new one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't watched any movies in a long time, like

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<v Speaker 3>an a theater went out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm still curious about the road because it

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<v Speaker 1>seems it's such a unique lifestyle, and you've been living

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<v Speaker 1>here for so long. It's very nice to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>your daughter has been coming around. So you said this

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<v Speaker 1>is her last time you how are you feeling about

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<v Speaker 1>this being your daughter's last trip? Is that emotional for you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm gonna miss it. I wish you. I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>she's eighteen or at least you don't like me, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean kids taking over. They hate her parents and

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<v Speaker 3>selt like that. But tell me other way, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get her and me and her would

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<v Speaker 3>do motorcycle trips together. So I have to do a

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<v Speaker 3>motorcycle motorcycle trip one of these times, and to get

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<v Speaker 3>her to go with me again somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. I like that. You you know, after driving a

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<v Speaker 1>big fucking like sixteen wheel sixteen wheel semi truck eighteen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it must feel so freeing to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the motorcycle, being like, let me ditch sixteen of these

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<v Speaker 1>wheels catch right? Yeah? M. Do you do you anticipate

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll be doing this for many more years in

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<v Speaker 1>the future?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know? I told my wife I till seventy,

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<v Speaker 3>I will retire. I won't work to seventy and one

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<v Speaker 3>day there's no way in hell. Yeah, yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 3>got another eleven years left. M.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want to do when you retire?

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<v Speaker 3>I drink, get high and be outright.

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<v Speaker 1>For my man? So, yeah, because you can't hopefully not

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. Hopefully hopefully you're not doing all

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<v Speaker 1>those at the same time. So you can't. You can't,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can't. They like drug test you, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even you know, you don't even have like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a little bit of time off here and

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<v Speaker 1>there where you can drink or get stone because you're always.

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<v Speaker 3>You can have some cocktails and stuff like that, but

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<v Speaker 3>smoking anything. I mean, they could call me tomorrow to

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<v Speaker 3>go in for a drug.

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<v Speaker 1>Test, right right, right, right?

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<v Speaker 4>So mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>About everything you work for?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course. What's what have you been to all

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<v Speaker 1>fifty states?

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't been to Alaster off the White too, I haven't been.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's the worst state? Just really, if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>state that you hate or a place in America that

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<v Speaker 1>you hate, I want you to write now if you

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<v Speaker 1>can just throw everything you've got at it at how

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<v Speaker 1>much it sucks?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Probably Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia. I don't think traffic sucks everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Now mgding.

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<v Speaker 3>Then going to Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hate l A too?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I don't mind l A. That's I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, huh, that's why do you Why do you if

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<v Speaker 1>if it's traffic that is the main thing you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like about Atlanta, why do you like La better than Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's better? I think the Trump is bad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>for all that in California, it ain't it ain't you

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<v Speaker 3>too bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Mhm mm hmm. What's well? Okay, what's the best state?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? God? You get out there in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>Montana because nothing's.

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<v Speaker 1>Out there and you like nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, nothing's there except the mountains in the snow.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, on a on a three. Just I know

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<v Speaker 1>I asked you this question again, I was. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I already asked you this question, but all right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just on an average day, it's two pm. You're driving

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<v Speaker 1>through Montana. Maybe you get the radio going, what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>are you? What's it? What do you look? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you thinking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? That's I mean, you know when we

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<v Speaker 3>when I die, that's how you do this. You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>why why did I chill hill? Why did I choose

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<v Speaker 3>this for a lie? Right? And that? Because you're gone

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<v Speaker 3>and it sucks. I mean you are gone from your

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<v Speaker 3>family everything, and do you miss a lot in life

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<v Speaker 3>of your family?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you does?

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<v Speaker 4>Does?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 4>Do?

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<v Speaker 1>You have conflicting feelings about what you've chosen to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, not really. I mean after I decided to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, the first year of driving sucks because you're gone.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not used to being gone. Then it was like nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I've drove local home there all the time. But

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<v Speaker 3>you make more money on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>If you is there any like other career options that

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<v Speaker 1>you thought about before you picked the truck?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I wouldn't want to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>You could you would have been a copy said yep, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's tough.

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<v Speaker 4>Too, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, did all that ship when I was young?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was going to go in. I would

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<v Speaker 3>have went, but I didn't want to go to the police.

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<v Speaker 3>Without college, they would have tired me. I would have

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<v Speaker 3>had to go work at the Gary police Department, and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to work in Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary, Indiana. Yeah, Gary, good old Gary, Indiana. Did Wait

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<v Speaker 1>when when you worked at it for? What were you

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<v Speaker 1>doing at the prison?

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<v Speaker 3>A guard?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's gotta be gnarly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you see ship you don't want to see bet?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you? Did you ever have to break up any fights? No?

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Not really. I worked I worked a good door. I'm

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 3>not gonna lie, Okay, I worked at But they worked

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<v Speaker 3>outside the prison. They worked on the highway department and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. They most of them had less of

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<v Speaker 3>a here to do, so they don't want to mess up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so everyone everyone there was trying to get out

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<v Speaker 1>on good behavior. So you didn't have to break up

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<v Speaker 1>any any shankings or anything. No, that's good. What's are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Is your your day? Is your daughter going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to college?

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<v Speaker 3>She don't know yet what really wants to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm mmmm Well I hope she doesn't start making

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<v Speaker 1>and selling d m T. I think she could do

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<v Speaker 1>better than that.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't make that ship and tell it either. She's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna laugh at at me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, shit, man, thanks for talking to me about all

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. This is uh, this is cool, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, I'm glad I caught you, uh while your

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>car was broke. I'm sorry your car broke down, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am I'm glad that it breaking down led to

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<v Speaker 1>us having this nice conversation together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I just don't like to break down. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't expect to spend thirteen thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, isn't there a fucking I'm gonna think about you now?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I see the flint Stones? Isn't there a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking is there a flint Stones?

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<v Speaker 3>There?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they rebooting the Flintstones? Are they gonna like make

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<v Speaker 1>jokes about Fred being on Twitter or some shit?

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, do you?

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<v Speaker 1>How many do you have a third Flintstones tattoo? We

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten into yet.

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Which is all No, no, okay, all right, I'll send

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<v Speaker 3>the picture if I can figure out where.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you could. I mean, look, if you want,

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>you can text the number the number. Oh she your

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>daughter sent it on Instagram. Okay, uh, here fucking I'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at I'll look at it right now. Hold on,

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll do I'll do a live reaction of this because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I don't know where the hell will post it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see she sent it to my Instagram. Hold,

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<v Speaker 1>let me, let me let me can you can you

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.959
<v Speaker 1>ask her to send it to the number that she's texting?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah she will?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, is she also? Did you get her into the flintstones?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What's by the way, what's in these trucks that you're

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<v Speaker 1>driving around?

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<v Speaker 3>I haul for a P and T and it's all

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<v Speaker 3>for stuff than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all for for what?

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 3>Cell towers?

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, so you've got you you're hauling cell towers

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>around everywhere?

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<v Speaker 3>Jeez, parts for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I just got I just got the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>He got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they dude, he looks in pain. These got these people,

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>both of them look like they're not having a good time.

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 3>He has any balls. That looks like he's prying because.

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like sweating, and yeah, he's like he's sweating. There's

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<v Speaker 1>drips of sweat coming from his head, and there's drips

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>of sweat coming from Velma's ass. And from her head,

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<v Speaker 1>she's wearing a necklace. He's got he's got his the on.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the dude. He looks so uncomfortable in this

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>fucking figure. But that's pretty legendary. God damn. All right,

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to find a place. I have no idea

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:18.479
<v Speaker 1>where if i'm maybe I'll make this a Patreon. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out. Maybe I'll just I'll just my description

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Speaker 1>of it can be enough. But yeah, well thanks man.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name again? Dwayne?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Dwayne, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne, Dwayne. You know, I'm glad we take so much

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>for granted in our lives, you know, like like the

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>fact that my fucking cell phone works. The fact that

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I can have this conversation with you right now on

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>the phone is as a result of your hard work

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>hauling these towers across America. And I just want to

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>say thank you.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Hey, we appreciate it. We appreciate because we can to

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 3>listen to you and all that.

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.239
<v Speaker 1>What do you listen to in the car when you are?

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>You a music guy, podcast guy? You know what?

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Ninety percent of the time I don't even have to

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<v Speaker 3>read your Really, I just wanted quiet.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted quiet, really, So you just met. You're

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<v Speaker 1>like meditating all the time. Yeah, wow, you must have

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<v Speaker 1>life figured out.

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 3>No, I wish I would, because if I had it

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<v Speaker 3>figured it out?

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<v Speaker 1>Retired, well ship, Thanks Douayne. It was nice talking to you.

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I once you put your daughter back on the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard. Okay, Hello, Hello Bailey?

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Hi, how are you?

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for letting me talk to you. Thank you

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>for did you introduce your dad to the show or

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if.

0:30:55.880 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 3>You what this is? Well?

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, thank you? Thank you for for that. That was

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>That was a fun conversation. I don't know how much

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>of it you were able to hear.

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 4>Some of it.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it? What's next for you in life now

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're you've completed your travels with your dad.

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna go back to Indiana and is it

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend and I'm gonna go back home and graduate?

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Yes? Do are you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You are playing on doing like college or anything like

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that or going into the trade or do you wanna

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>do you want to drive? You're both your parents drive things.

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you going to be do?

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<v Speaker 3>Uber?

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>God, no, I'm not sure what I want to do yet?

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well I I I I think you will live

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>for full life. Sounds like you have a nice family.

0:31:58.800 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything that you or is there anything that

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you or your dad want to say to the people

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<v Speaker 1>of the computer before we go?

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 4>No, thank you.

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Have a nice night.

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Hey YouTube, take care Bailey, but by.

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<v Speaker 3>Dwayne, goodbye. I have a great evening.

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Hey YouTube, man, you take care.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks brother, what a great call, What a great call.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you again, Bailey and Duyne for taking taking us

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>with you on your journey across America. This, this Velma

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and Fred tattoo is pretty funny. Uh fuck it. I'll

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>post it in discord. Maybe I don't know, or you'll

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>or I'll never do anything with it at all, and

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>it will just be for me. And you know what, Yeah,

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>because I like the I like the idea of people

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in their minds picturing what it looks like more than

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>just showing it. And also, listen, if you here's the thing.

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this, and you if you're listening

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to this and you really want to know what Fred

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking well, what Fred fucking Velma looks like? Buddy, It's

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a click away on the internet if you want to

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Google that if you want to have that forever etched

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>into your Internet search history. That's the that's the only price, okay,

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>because there's free Rule thirty four. Flintstone's hend tie a

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>click away, which is it's funny because that's the most

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>anachronistic thing that could exist. Is simply is Flintstone's Rule

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty four because it's it's such a comment on the

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>future on the Internet era at just how quickly you

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>can pull up an image of Fred fucking Velma and

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's uh that in contrast with what the Flintstones

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>is all about, which is uh, you know rocks. It's

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>really beautiful. It's really a statement on something that I

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't figured out just yet. But thank you again Dwayne

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>and Bailey for gracing us with your presence and Deak

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>bless you all from hell. Hi, what's going on?

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 4>And everybody is right? You do sound different through a phone?

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Why do people keep well, everybody sounds different through the phone.

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why people keep saying that everybody sounds

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>different through the phone. That's why. I that's why on

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>my Reddit all the time or like I That's what.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 4>It is people, It's the quality.

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it's the beautiful Yeah, go ahead.

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, go ahead, you go ahead. Oh well, okay, so

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I I know again no chat, But socks on the

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 4>beach did sell my name correctly. I'm an avid anti

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 4>AI D E N spell. I don't really care.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>About the socks on the beach as a chatter, and

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>they correctly spelled your name. Okay, So you are not

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>a I D E N.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 4>No, that's like the second wave generation of Aiden. It's

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 4>like the white Wine Mom version.

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>What are you?

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm a I D an you know the O

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 4>G A I D Yeah. Oh no A I D

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 4>A A I D A N.

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Well listen, you know me, I'm gonna forget your name

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>in about five seconds. So spelling is in another u

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I like how much I feet like and I know

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it sucks and I know it. I don't know what

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>it is with my brain where I'm not bad with

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>we're'm bad with names and stuff, but the like figuring

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>out how to remembering how to spell your name is

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>in another universe. That's like I'm not evolved enough of

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>a creature to have that information, right.

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 4>That's a nitpicky thing on my part.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>No, No, you're okay, I know you're okay, and I

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you calling it. I was gonna say, it's funny.

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I get like people on people always say like, oh,

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the calls are faked or it's like the same person

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>calling in every time, and it's like, well, yeah, the mic,

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the microphone makes it look like it makes it sound

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 1>like it's the same person.

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 4>It's a totally different quality. I mean, I think that's

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 4>why you sound like different because you're on like a

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:32.879
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what kind of mike you're using. It's

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 4>like yetti or something nice, but it's like way higher

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 4>quality than whatever you're calling on. So I think it's

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 4>just a way different quality. The same way like you'll

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 4>record yourself on like a nice mic and then listen

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 4>to yourself on like a phone call and you're like you, well.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm done talking about audio engineering. I want to know

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>about you. Aiden what's going on? How can you call?

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>It's okay if you don't have a reason, but if

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you do, hit me no.

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 4>So I called in specifically because I am starting to

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 4>do a ninety day what they call a dopamine detox. Yeah,

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 4>basically just like take a break from all different kinds

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 4>of like crazy stimulation. So like video games, alcohol, weed

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 4>which sucks, TV shows, literally anything that could possibly like

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.399
<v Speaker 4>give you happiness, you just got to kind of cut

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 4>out and then just like only do like I guess,

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 4>like reading and stuff that's kind of like lighter. But yeah,

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm on, Like, I'm not very far into it. I'm

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 4>about on day four, but like already, like I've been

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 4>feeling it a lot.

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's nice to know that my stream releases no

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>dopamine in your brain, and so it's okay for you

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to see you fall into.

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 4>A great So music and podcasts are fine. So I've

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 4>been listening to your podcast. I was listening to your

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 4>most recent one right up to this, and I was like, oh, shoot,

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 4>be's streaming the night since it's one day, so that

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 4>was kind of hype huh. But yeah, no, oh sorry,

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 4>go ahead.

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, so okay, So so you're not allowed you're

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>allowed to listen to podcasts. I assume you're not allowed

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to like crack addict, scroll, uh, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, facial

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>media too.

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Yep. Yeah, so one thing on that actually is bizarre.

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 4>So every time I've tried to do this in the past,

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 4>I finally cracked it. What ended up happening like taking

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 4>a break from video games or taking a break from

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 4>something else. What ends up happening is your brain notices

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 4>the deficiency and it tries to make up for it

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 4>in other places. So that can either be social media,

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 4>YouTube regardless, So higher high dopamine activities like take for instance,

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 4>I take a five day sabbatical from video gaming, but

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.959
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna up is by the second day. I'm gonna

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 4>be just accessing YouTube every other like second, just because

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm not getting the same level that I got before.

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Someone in the chat was talking about like legal addictions

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 4>or whatever, and I honestly believe that like dopamine or

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 4>like over indulging in the reward system is like the biggest,

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 4>like freaking' addiction out there.

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 1>All Right, so you're day four into this thing. You're

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>allowed to listen to podcasts. I guess you're allowed. Well,

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess you're allowed to be on twitch. Yeah, okay,

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, So.

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 4>Well the Twitch part was mostly just because I wanted

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 4>to call it in right here.

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I'll give you a I won't tell who,

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I won't tell your sponsor, oh that you called me?

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>So of your vices, of the things that give you dopamine,

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:04.280
<v Speaker 1>which ones, like you know, got you off the most.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>What what we're like the biggest uh uh Devil's temptations

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>for you? Was it poorn? Was it sugar? Is it weed?

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 1>What's what are your big big vices?

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 4>So definitely sugar and video games. That's another thing too,

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 4>is like cutting out sugar. That has been crazy because

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 4>I never realized how much sugar isn't everything you consume.

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Fucking yeah, it's so crazy.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 4>And I mean I live on a university campus, so

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 4>they're able to get away with like pumping so much

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 4>sugar into everything you eat, because I mean, where else

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 4>are you're going to get food? So yeah, I know

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 4>it's it's wild. It is bizarre. But more than that,

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 4>I'd probably say sugar in video games wan anything just

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 4>in terms of taking up my time and just unhealthiness.

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>What kind of video games?

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, usually I'll end up playing like, uh, Overwatch with

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 4>some buddies, or like will end up playing like jack

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Box or Minecraft, just like the typical like oh, do

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 4>it with friends type deal.

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean you know, if you're doing it with

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 1>like friends, that seems like it's not, you know, horrible.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 4>Well that's what it is in the offset, and then

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 4>I start to break off and do it on my

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 4>own and then fill the rest of my time up,

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:30.800
<v Speaker 4>so it's no longer like a group activity.

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And how many how many hours a day were

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you playing video games?

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, anytime I really got free time, So at least

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.439
<v Speaker 4>like two to four hours every day, okay, yeah, which

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean doesn't sound like a lot, but

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.760
<v Speaker 4>add that to social media and right everything.

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, you know, I've been playing a lot of switch.

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>I've been playing like all the Zelda games on there

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and all the Mario games. Yeah, I'm actually I'm having

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>a great time because I used to spend my free

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big like I haven't seen any of

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the TV shows or I haven't seen any movies. But

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I realized that I used to spend my free time

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>just like scrolling TikTok or reels or YouTube or whatever

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the fuck, And it was kind of like trash. But

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>at least with video games, you know, I'm I am

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>focused on something that feels intentional. Right, you can I

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>decide to turn on my switch and play Zelda and

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>experience it as a thing as opposed to like, I'm

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok just looking at things that are upsetting, which

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and I found myself there. I didn't decide to be there.

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, exactly. I think that's also the same reason

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 4>people get pissed off with multiplayer games and like feel

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 4>wildly depressed, just because at the end of the day

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 4>you're not getting anything out of it. With camp I

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 4>games like Breath of the Wild, you feel like you're

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.479
<v Speaker 4>actually getting a sense of accomplishment. I know you're talking

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 4>about like with that other guy who felt I think

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 4>he was calling about Monica dating sim or something like that,

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 4>talking about how you uh saved a village and it

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 4>was like a form of like escapism, but at the

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 4>same time you actually felt like you were that kind

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 4>of hero aspect.

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I mean I guess my concern is, like, Okay,

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 4>what happens when you shut down that computer. I mean, like, yeah,

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 4>that was awesome, but now you got to like focus

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 4>in on real life. You have all these stresses and

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.280
<v Speaker 4>anxieties and stuff, and hey, you felt that momentary relief,

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 4>but then like all that happiness you're only deriving from

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 4>those sources.

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's fine, It's very fine. I've thought

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>about that, right, I guess, like I sunk a ton

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:58.879
<v Speaker 1>of time into these Elda games, and when they were over,

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I didn't Oh I still have

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to go back into real life. But then I'm like, well,

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I fucking die, you could say the

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>same thing about that. Yeah, true, but that's I don't

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's a healthy way to look at, you know,

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>being alive. Yeah, I mean that's you know, that's on.

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>You can't you cannot refute that.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 3>But I don't.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't have shame over the time I've

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>spent playing video games. I probably, you know, hundreds and

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>hundreds and hundreds of hours into Super Smash, Bros. Melee,

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, at least a few hundred hours to

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>switch so far, I just like, you know, don't have

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>any shame. I was just what were you gonna say,

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about you?

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 4>No, I was agreeing, like Super Smash's bomb. But yeah, no,

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm not by all means, I'm not discounting that at all.

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm on the same page like all of the time

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 4>that I've spent video gaming totally. But I've also like

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 4>especially into like the past few years I've suffered with

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 4>like CD and depression more than anything, and and also ADHD,

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 4>so trying to get to the bottom of those things

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 4>and understanding like, Okay, what can I control about my

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 4>life to improve it. In the past, I've tried cutting

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 4>out video games and dope for me, and like I said,

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 4>what I ended up doing was just filling it with

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 4>something else, and then I'd rationalize my way back into it,

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 4>so I'd be like, oh, I'll just play a game

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 4>with my friend, and then it would just fall back in,

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 4>because I don't think people realize how easy it is

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 4>when you're like addicted to something like this to be like, oh, well,

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 4>I need to message somebody on Instagram or Snapchat and

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 4>because I mean it's a form of communication, and then

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 4>I'll leave it alone and not be a dicta yea yeah.

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.720
<v Speaker 4>But in terms of like physical symptoms since I started

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 4>doing it, they're a lot stronger than I expected, like

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 4>and not just like subjectively, like the first couple of days,

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 4>I felt exhausted for no reason at all, but it

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 4>felt like it wasn't boredom. It was just like I

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:14.959
<v Speaker 4>was felt purely like drained a little bit. I'm coming

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 4>out of that, like with a vengeance, so I'm feeling

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 4>a lot better today. But that and it felt like

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 4>I had cravings, Like I kept on thinking of ways

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 4>that I could like get dopamine. There's also this really

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 4>bizarre like muscle memory thing where I kept on like

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.280
<v Speaker 4>going to like Safari on my iPhone and like typing

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 4>in YouTube or the news, only to find out like, hey,

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 4>I blocked them on those like passages, those like it's

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 4>really bizarre to coming to terms with the fact that's

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 4>like how ingrained it is in you without even really oh.

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no, you you you. That's

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the scary things is when you realize that

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.959
<v Speaker 1>you're like you've programmed yourself to do all that shit.

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>No for sure, go ahead, no you go ahead.

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.320
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever seen a social dilemma on Netflix?

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I have.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was kind of cheesy that like dramatizations

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and stuff.

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 4>I agree that the dramatizations, but I think what they

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:22.839
<v Speaker 4>addressed was like the best it's been addressed so far,

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 4>just with the idea of like it's not personal, it's

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 4>not like execs on like Instagram or TikTok or video

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 4>game makers are malicious if they want you to like

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 4>suffer anything or like throw away your life to them.

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 4>But it's a business and fundamental goal of make profit,

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 4>and you make profit by increasing engagements. I think that

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 4>focus without questioning the potential like fallbacks just kind of

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 4>jacks the whole thing up.

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's also weird. I must have said this. I'm

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>sure I've said this on a podcast one thousand times,

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>but it is so crazy to look at like just

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a timeline of human existence and I guess all of

0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>existence and see the infinitesimal dot on the infinite timeline

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of existence in which this stuff has even existed, you know,

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's only gonna get exponentially crazier. Now I'm impressed

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>with you because you did, you are do, You're a

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>hit and everything at once.

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:27.879
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are like, I'm gonna quit sugar

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for ninety days or I'm gonna quit the Internet for

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>ninety days, but you're like, I'm quitting all of everything

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that gives me any happiness in the world for ninety days.

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:40.879
<v Speaker 4>But that's the exact thing, is that if you leave

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 4>anything up, it's simply going to be a substitute. You're

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 4>just gonna fall back on something else and eventually you'll

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 4>rationalize your way back into it. It has to be

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:54.280
<v Speaker 4>complete and total in my opinion.

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>And you've and you've and you've you've tried this a

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:00.720
<v Speaker 1>few times before and it has not worked several times.

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm I'd like to think of myself as like

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:07.360
<v Speaker 4>a productivity buff. I've found try and like tried to

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 4>find various ways to like deal with procrastination and that

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 4>sort of thing. So like, I have tried this a

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 4>ton of times.

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>But what's the farthest you've got.

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm on my own accord, Probably like a probably honestly,

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 4>probably like five days.

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 3>We haven't.

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.240
<v Speaker 1>You haven't even broken your record on this current.

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 4>But I wasn't doing the same thing I was. I

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 4>was allowing for substitute. This is my first go at

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 4>like cold turkey, and so far it's like I don't

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 4>even have like the same like I can tell there's

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 4>a big difference. Rather than just substituting it. Substituting it,

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 4>I felt like I was still wasting my time on something,

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 4>But now it feels like I'm actually fully committed.

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.879
<v Speaker 1>If you weren't talking to me right now? And I guess,

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>is this conversation giving you dopa Maine? You're talking to

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 1>another person.

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:11.880
<v Speaker 4>A get go you are talking to.

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you have do you have the desire to jack

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>off onto a donut and eat it and then play

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty rounds of Overwatch? I don't know why I said

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>the thing about jacking off onto a donut and eating it.

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess that was that would be like a.

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:29.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, the the.

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 4>And it's a metaphor. It's a metaphor, a metaphor, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 4>or would it be an analogy? I didn't take enough

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 4>English for this.

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they would talk about this thing of class?

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>But did do you have the desire right now to

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>do these things?

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 4>So that's like with the cravings and stuff, it's like

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 4>it's so fundamentally backgrounds, Like of course you got those

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 4>ingrained habits, like yes, like every single like not every

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 4>single second, you're able to kind of tune it out.

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 4>But take for instance, like like the amount of times

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 4>that I'm just like, oh I feel anxious, let me

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 4>check my phone happens way more often than I thought

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.240
<v Speaker 4>it did. Like I thought I checked my phone with purpose,

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 4>but nah, same thing with overwash. I thought I would

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 4>like rationalize and be like, hey, let me let me

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 4>actually like play a game or two make myself feel good.

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 4>But I'm realizing that's never the case. It's purely just

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 4>like a cycle A it's a it's a like built

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 4>in reaction at this point, built pacify and it's crazy.

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I was projecting on you when I said

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing about jacking off on the donut, but I'm

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>not going to talk about that anymore. All right, before

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:50.760
<v Speaker 1>we go, I want to know from you just before

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:54.480
<v Speaker 1>we go, what what what surrounding this? What you're in school,

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>What do you like, who you are as a person?

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:57.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you study?

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:02.360
<v Speaker 4>So I'm studying be IT and marketing management, but like

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm at like it's my sophomore year, so I still

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 4>got like a lot of time to figure out where

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:12.439
<v Speaker 4>I want to go with it. Okay, but overall, yeah,

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 4>it's good. I got a girl friend uh this semester,

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 4>so that's pretty hype. We actually knew each other for

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 4>like seven years, so I mean we knew each other

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 4>for a while until but then she came back to

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:29.399
<v Speaker 4>yeah whatever, we reconnected. So that was pretty hype.

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 1>That's cool.

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:34.879
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I'm roommateing with my best friend. Overall things

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 4>are good aside from like you know, mental wise.

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, so you have so you're doing this for ninety days.

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's my goal.

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you tell me and like tell me tell me honestly, yep?

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Do you think you're going to make

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:53.439
<v Speaker 1>the ninety days?

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 3>I do?

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I think because I have the mindset now that

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.440
<v Speaker 4>like I'm like, of course everybody's gonna die one day,

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 4>but like if I'm going to use up like three

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 4>months of my life to like commit myself just to

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 4>find out something, like just to like commit those three

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 4>months to something I've never done, rather than just like

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 4>staying in a habit of something that I know probably

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 4>messes with me to some extent. Like I'm like, I

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 4>might as well commit and find out.

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, inspired by that. Yeah, but you know what

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.239
<v Speaker 1>talk is cheap? What's your name again?

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:39.320
<v Speaker 4>It's Aiden.

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>The talk is cheap, Aiden with the A which I knew. No,

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that I'm lying, but.

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Talk is cheap.

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you call it?

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Hit me in ninety days, hit me in ninety days.

0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's see if you did it? I'm if you if

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you do it successfully, I was I was about to say,

0:53:58.160 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 1>if you do it successfully, I'll give it to try,

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's not true. Maybe I'll try. I'd like to

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 1>try it for I should try it for like a week,

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 1>even now I do, I should try for a fucking

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>try for an hour, honestly before I can make people.

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Say that like one quick thing I want to address

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 4>before I do. Go. Yes, So people have said, like

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 4>they've gotten benefits from like a day a week is

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 4>a good thing to aim for. But I mean when

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 4>you look at like studies and such or not studies,

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 4>but like commentary by like top scientists and doctors, they'll

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 4>be like, Okay, well, dopamine detals in and of itself

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:35.320
<v Speaker 4>is like not really scientifically correct, but it does address

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 4>the reward system. And I think that's because like they're

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:42.760
<v Speaker 4>not really looking at what it does. When your brains

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 4>neurons can like conversate with each other, they require dopamine

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of like set off those receptors. But when

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing a bunch of like high dopamine activities regularly,

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<v Speaker 4>what essentially happens is the brain figures that because it's

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<v Speaker 4>getting the same level of dopamine or it's getting like

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<v Speaker 4>an non normal amount of dopaine, it like adjusts itself

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<v Speaker 4>so that it decreases the amount of receptors so that

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<v Speaker 4>when you're doing those high dopamine activities it feels it

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<v Speaker 4>begins to feel normal and not fun. And so then

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<v Speaker 4>when you're doing non high dopamine activities, you just feel

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<v Speaker 4>like shit all the time. So that that is like

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<v Speaker 4>the concept with the whole thing. But yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to address that real quick because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like people get give it a bad rep but it

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<v Speaker 4>like has worked and has real scientific basis for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounded very scientific. It's funny. I'm all, you're always like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>scrambling around trying to figure out how to fix your

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<v Speaker 1>fucking life at least I am. And it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we did. There's science on this ship. There's actually real

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<v Speaker 1>people did, uh, like wrote books on how to make

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<v Speaker 1>your brain not make you hate yourself. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read I'll read some books eaten with a what's that?

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<v Speaker 3>Hit me?

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me with your last thing, hit me in the face,

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<v Speaker 1>give me some with your last thing, last bit. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>you talked, not me.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So this is a real shot in the dark here.

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<v Speaker 4>I just am curious if you remember it. But a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of like a year or two ago, when you're

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<v Speaker 4>still streaming on our PAN for Reddit, Yeah, I sent

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<v Speaker 4>you a message threatening you with my juggling abilities and

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh, no, juggling. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 4>would remember that, but like that really stuck out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a private message or like it was you

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<v Speaker 1>said you what did you say? You said, I will

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<v Speaker 1>kill you with your my juggles?

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<v Speaker 4>No, Like, I don't know. I was juggling on our

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<v Speaker 4>PAN and you like always boosted all the way to

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<v Speaker 4>like first I always was like bruh, like all the

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<v Speaker 4>arpans people are going to watch the get go.

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<v Speaker 1>I But I mean, so you just sent me a

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<v Speaker 1>message saying I I will threaten you with my juggling

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<v Speaker 1>abilities and I said, oh.

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<v Speaker 4>No, judge, I think I will destroy with my juggle. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that was that was a weird place

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<v Speaker 4>for me at the time. But yeah, a little little

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<v Speaker 4>little shot in.

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<v Speaker 1>The dark right there, to think you could have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>been a professional juggler, but now you're you know, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>staring at walls trying to fix your brain. Yep, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, and having it sounds like having a good

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<v Speaker 1>time doing it. I'm inspired. I'm gonna do that tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Please just try it, Okay, all right, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of with the name

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<v Speaker 3>Goes on the line.