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Speaker 2: M Paul from Bailey, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Are you can you turn off the TV? Are you

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Speaker 1: on the Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sorry, dad, where's the remote? I was my

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Speaker 2: dad in the truck right now? Just a second.

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Speaker 3: You're with your dad.

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Speaker 1: Wait, you're with your dad in a truck where there's

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Speaker 1: a TV.

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Speaker 2: We're in a semi truck. He's a truck driver.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, what uh wait you're wait what so

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Speaker 1: there's a TV in the semi truck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He he has like one of the big semi trucks.

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Speaker 2: He has a shower and like everything.

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Speaker 1: Wait, there's a shower in the semi This is like

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Speaker 1: an r V.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like an RV.

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Speaker 1: Again, that's cool, man. What what?

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Speaker 3: Where?

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Speaker 1: What are you guys doing.

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Speaker 2: Where in Texas right now? And we're in Amarillo, Texas

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Speaker 2: and we're broke down?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you work with your dad?

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Speaker 2: No? No, I'm just traveling with him.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. What do you where?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: What are you Where are you guys traveling to?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're supposed to be going to California, but he's

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Speaker 2: going to get a trust fixed tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: What's you guys are broken down? You guys are on

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Speaker 1: the side of the road.

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Speaker 2: No, we're at a shop right now. You're at a shop, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like a if they fixed the truck.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, So you guys are just kind of

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Speaker 1: sitting around in the truck while it's getting fixed. Yeah, okay, cool?

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Speaker 1: Can I talk to your dad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Man? My mam?

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 3: Dwayne?

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Speaker 1: Dwayne? Dwayne mean the traveling truck driver?

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Speaker 3: Where we go?

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Speaker 1: What's what? What's life like?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: What? How? How long have you been driving this truck? For? All?

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Speaker 3: Been driving a truck?

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Speaker 1: You've been driving truck for thirty five years? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: must have seen some crazy shit along along your thirty

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Speaker 3: A lot, a lot.

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Speaker 1: Oh man. I don't even know where to start with

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Speaker 1: my questions. Do you have time? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine you have anything else.

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Speaker 4: Do you?

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Speaker 1: Literally can't go anywhere?

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Speaker 3: No, can't do nothing. Tell me get it fixed tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So this feels like a base question, but I might

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Speaker 3: Oh? My god? I woods delivering local and Minneapolis area

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Speaker 3: next thing you know, here comes a naked blonde, then

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Speaker 1: Wait they there were just two naked girls in the

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Speaker 3: Yes, and alcohol involved on their part.

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Speaker 1: Weird, weird. Oh yeah, what now? Now? Where what's the

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Speaker 1: farthest distance you've driven in one day?

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Speaker 3: That was on paper walks? So I probably did twelve

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Speaker 3: hundred miles. And when we had paper, Now we got

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Speaker 3: computers hard. We can't lie no more.

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Speaker 1: We used to lie about how long you've driven for,

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Speaker 1: like for to make money or something.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you'd worked twenty hour days, twenty one, twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Now, what is the worst diarrhea you've ever gotten from

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Speaker 1: a gas station? Sandwich?

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Speaker 3: Oh? God, you know, just going to the truck stop

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Speaker 1: Now, you must have, you must have, Like, how do

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Speaker 1: you how do you do food? Because I assume you've

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Speaker 1: been doing this for thirty five years, and I assume

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Speaker 1: that you're not exclusively eating at Circle K's and other

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Speaker 1: gas stations, because I don't think you could make would

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Speaker 1: still be alive if that was how you did it?

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Speaker 1: So how do you do it?

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Speaker 3: Oh? God? I mean now I'll eat out of the

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stove and I got it all in here.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but you just stop. The truck stops eat

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Speaker 3: are you stop? There's a I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: ever heard of it, the Big Texan restaurant. Thank got

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Speaker 3: a seventy two on steak. If you can eat that

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Speaker 1: Did you would You've never tried it?

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Speaker 1: God, no, would that not be the greatest accomplishment of

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Speaker 3: It would be mm hmm?

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Speaker 1: What the hell else was?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which gas station has the best food? From your

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Speaker 3: It used to be that. I'm gonna say that Petro

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Speaker 3: all went downhill. They're all going to fast food. They're

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Speaker 3: in m H. So you get tired of SUBWAYE, McDonald's

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Speaker 1: What do you think about when you're driving?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what don't you think about? I mean,

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Speaker 3: you think about everything. It stucks being gone from your families.

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Speaker 3: I mean since last August, because I've been home two days.

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Speaker 3: But we're doing it for financial reasons, because but paying

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Speaker 1: So what you're telling, you're saying from August of twenty

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Speaker 3: Two days. Wow, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Wow. And so you're on the you're just and every

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Speaker 1: single day you're you're just driving these long, crazy distances.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's gnarly. Uh Is it usual? Is it usually

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Speaker 3: Uh? No? I mean anymore, you can drive maybe a

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Speaker 3: So but I gotta tell you too. My daughter was

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Speaker 3: at your show there in Chicago. Uh, what it was?

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Speaker 3: When were you in Chicago? Just what?

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Speaker 4: A couple of weeks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: And her boyfriend was up on stage with you.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, who's her boyfriend, Tristan?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember d EMPTY?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, there was a guy who came on stage

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Speaker 3: His Yes, yes, yes, dude.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever done have you ever done his DMT?

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Speaker 3: Oh? God, no, God no, I you know I get

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Speaker 3: drug tested too much. I haven't did god thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's that That sound that is words spoken

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Speaker 1: like a man who is on a podcast that is

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Speaker 1: being released to the public. So I'm curious. It's cool

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Speaker 3: It's good because it's probably her last trip. She's eighteen,

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Speaker 1: Oh did she used to come with you a lot?

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Speaker 3: Oh? All the time? Oh, okay, come with me for

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Speaker 1: Me and she's home school, so she's like on the

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Speaker 1: is it it's all over zoom?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just all online. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wi fi and that thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Fascinating. And uh you're are you? Are you married?

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Speaker 1: And uh does your wife ever come with you?

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What does she do and that decides?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Not a school box, but the fan picked up

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Speaker 3: She's home all the time, and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I'm ever kid home anymore?

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Speaker 1: Is is your daughter your only kid?

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Speaker 3: I have one, wife has one and DISI ours together.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, he's the baby. Do you get to and

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Speaker 1: your your other kids? Do you get to see them very often?

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Speaker 3: Yea, the one in Houston every now and then the

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Speaker 1: Do I appreciate tattoos? Yes, I've you know, I iiate tattoos.

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Speaker 1: I have no interest in getting one myself. But why

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Speaker 1: tattoos man? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I got just a few of them, but I got

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Speaker 3: one of that. I'm into the zones both. I got

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Speaker 3: one of Fred Banging Wilman's Doggie sells.

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Speaker 1: Do you have to you gotta send us a picture

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Speaker 1: of that ship?

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Speaker 3: My daughter contigurettes how to do all that? O? God,

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Speaker 1: Would you ever get one of what's the mom from

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna miss it. I wish you. I mean, hey,

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Speaker 1: Huh. I like that. You you know, after driving a

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Speaker 3: Do you know? I told my wife I till seventy,

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do when you retire?

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Speaker 3: I drink, get high and be outright.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. What's what have you been to all

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Speaker 3: Haven't been to Alaster off the White too, I haven't been.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god? That's I mean, you know when we

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you does?

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Speaker 1: How do you do?

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Speaker 1: Is your your day? Is your daughter going to go

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Speaker 3: She don't know yet what really wants to do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I just don't like to break down. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Every time I see the flint Stones? Isn't there a

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Speaker 1: Are they rebooting the Flintstones? Are they gonna like make

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Speaker 1: How many do you have a third Flintstones tattoo? We

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Speaker 1: Let me see she sent it to my Instagram. Hold,

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00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: let me, let me let me can you can you

451
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: ask her to send it to the number that she's texting?

452
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah she will?

453
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Okay, is she also? Did you get her into the flintstones?

454
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?

455
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: What's by the way, what's in these trucks that you're

456
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: driving around?

457
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 3: I haul for a P and T and it's all

458
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: for stuff than I do.

459
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: It's all for for what?

460
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: Cell towers?

461
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: Oh oh, so you've got you you're hauling cell towers

462
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: around everywhere?

463
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: Jeez, parts for it?

464
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: Yes, I just got I just got the picture.

465
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: He got it.

466
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they dude, he looks in pain. These got these people,

467
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: both of them look like they're not having a good time.

468
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: He has any balls. That looks like he's prying because.

469
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: He's like sweating, and yeah, he's like he's sweating. There's

470
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: drips of sweat coming from his head, and there's drips

471
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: of sweat coming from Velma's ass. And from her head,

472
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: she's wearing a necklace. He's got he's got his the on.

473
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: This is the dude. He looks so uncomfortable in this

474
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: fucking figure. But that's pretty legendary. God damn. All right,

475
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: I'll have to find a place. I have no idea

476
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: where if i'm maybe I'll make this a Patreon. We'll

477
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: figure it out. Maybe I'll just I'll just my description

478
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: of it can be enough. But yeah, well thanks man.

479
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: What's your name again? Dwayne?

480
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: Right, Dwayne, Yes.

481
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: Dwayne, Dwayne. You know, I'm glad we take so much

482
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: for granted in our lives, you know, like like the

483
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: fact that my fucking cell phone works. The fact that

484
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: I can have this conversation with you right now on

485
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: the phone is as a result of your hard work

486
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: hauling these towers across America. And I just want to

487
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: say thank you.

488
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: Hey, we appreciate it. We appreciate because we can to

489
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: listen to you and all that.

490
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 1: What do you listen to in the car when you are?

491
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: You a music guy, podcast guy? You know what?

492
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: Ninety percent of the time I don't even have to

493
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: read your Really, I just wanted quiet.

494
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: I just wanted quiet, really, So you just met. You're

495
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: like meditating all the time. Yeah, wow, you must have

496
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: life figured out.

497
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: No, I wish I would, because if I had it

498
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: figured it out?

499
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: Retired, well ship, Thanks Douayne. It was nice talking to you.

500
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: Man.

501
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: I once you put your daughter back on the phone,

502
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: I'll say about it.

503
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: Heard. Okay, Hello, Hello Bailey?

504
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: Hi, how are you?

505
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me talk to you. Thank you

506
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: for did you introduce your dad to the show or

507
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if.

508
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: You what this is? Well?

509
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you? Thank you for for that. That was

510
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: That was a fun conversation. I don't know how much

511
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: of it you were able to hear.

512
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: Some of it.

513
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: How is it? What's next for you in life now

514
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: that you're you've completed your travels with your dad.

515
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna go back to Indiana and is it

516
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: my boyfriend and I'm gonna go back home and graduate?

517
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: Yes? Do are you do?

518
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: You are playing on doing like college or anything like

519
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: that or going into the trade or do you wanna

520
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: do you want to drive? You're both your parents drive things.

521
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Are you going to be do?

522
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: Uber?

523
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: Oh?

524
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: God, no, I'm not sure what I want to do yet?

525
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I I I I think you will live

526
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: for full life. Sounds like you have a nice family.

527
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: Man.

528
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: That's a cool stuff.

529
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.

530
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you or is there anything that

531
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: you or your dad want to say to the people

532
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?

533
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: No, thank you.

534
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: Have a nice night.

535
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: Hey YouTube, take care Bailey, but by.

536
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: Dwayne, goodbye. I have a great evening.

537
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: Hey YouTube, man, you take care.

538
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks brother, what a great call, What a great call.

539
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: Thank you again, Bailey and Duyne for taking taking us

540
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: with you on your journey across America. This, this Velma

541
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: and Fred tattoo is pretty funny. Uh fuck it. I'll

542
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: post it in discord. Maybe I don't know, or you'll

543
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: or I'll never do anything with it at all, and

544
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: it will just be for me. And you know what, Yeah,

545
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: because I like the I like the idea of people

546
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: in their minds picturing what it looks like more than

547
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: just showing it. And also, listen, if you here's the thing.

548
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, and you if you're listening

549
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: to this and you really want to know what Fred

550
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: fucking well, what Fred fucking Velma looks like? Buddy, It's

551
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: a click away on the internet if you want to

552
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Google that if you want to have that forever etched

553
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: into your Internet search history. That's the that's the only price, okay,

554
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: because there's free Rule thirty four. Flintstone's hend tie a

555
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: click away, which is it's funny because that's the most

556
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: anachronistic thing that could exist. Is simply is Flintstone's Rule

557
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: thirty four because it's it's such a comment on the

558
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: future on the Internet era at just how quickly you

559
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: can pull up an image of Fred fucking Velma and

560
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: it's it's uh that in contrast with what the Flintstones

561
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: is all about, which is uh, you know rocks. It's

562
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: really beautiful. It's really a statement on something that I

563
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: haven't figured out just yet. But thank you again Dwayne

564
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: and Bailey for gracing us with your presence and Deak

565
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: bless you all from hell. Hi, what's going on?

566
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: And everybody is right? You do sound different through a phone?

567
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: Why do people keep well, everybody sounds different through the phone.

568
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why people keep saying that everybody sounds

569
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: different through the phone. That's why. I that's why on

570
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: my Reddit all the time or like I That's what.

571
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: It is people, It's the quality.

572
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's the beautiful Yeah, go ahead.

573
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, you go ahead. Oh well, okay, so

574
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: I I know again no chat, But socks on the

575
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 4: beach did sell my name correctly. I'm an avid anti

576
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: AI D E N spell. I don't really care.

577
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: About the socks on the beach as a chatter, and

578
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: they correctly spelled your name. Okay, So you are not

579
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: a I D E N.

580
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: No, that's like the second wave generation of Aiden. It's

581
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 4: like the white Wine Mom version.

582
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: What are you?

583
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm a I D an you know the O

584
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: G A I D Yeah. Oh no A I D

585
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: A A I D A N.

586
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Well listen, you know me, I'm gonna forget your name

587
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: in about five seconds. So spelling is in another u

588
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: I like how much I feet like and I know

589
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: it sucks and I know it. I don't know what

590
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: it is with my brain where I'm not bad with

591
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: we're'm bad with names and stuff, but the like figuring

592
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: out how to remembering how to spell your name is

593
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: in another universe. That's like I'm not evolved enough of

594
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: a creature to have that information, right.

595
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 4: That's a nitpicky thing on my part.

596
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: No, No, you're okay, I know you're okay, and I

597
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: appreciate you calling it. I was gonna say, it's funny.

598
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: I get like people on people always say like, oh,

599
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: the calls are faked or it's like the same person

600
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: calling in every time, and it's like, well, yeah, the mic,

601
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: the microphone makes it look like it makes it sound

602
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: like it's the same person.

603
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: It's a totally different quality. I mean, I think that's

604
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: why you sound like different because you're on like a

605
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of mike you're using. It's

606
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: like yetti or something nice, but it's like way higher

607
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 4: quality than whatever you're calling on. So I think it's

608
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: just a way different quality. The same way like you'll

609
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: record yourself on like a nice mic and then listen

610
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: to yourself on like a phone call and you're like you, well.

611
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm done talking about audio engineering. I want to know

612
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: about you. Aiden what's going on? How can you call?

613
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: It's okay if you don't have a reason, but if

614
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: you do, hit me no.

615
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 4: So I called in specifically because I am starting to

616
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 4: do a ninety day what they call a dopamine detox. Yeah,

617
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: basically just like take a break from all different kinds

618
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: of like crazy stimulation. So like video games, alcohol, weed

619
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 4: which sucks, TV shows, literally anything that could possibly like

620
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 4: give you happiness, you just got to kind of cut

621
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 4: out and then just like only do like I guess,

622
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: like reading and stuff that's kind of like lighter. But yeah,

623
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: I'm on, Like, I'm not very far into it. I'm

624
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: about on day four, but like already, like I've been

625
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: feeling it a lot.

626
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's nice to know that my stream releases no

627
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: dopamine in your brain, and so it's okay for you

628
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: to see you fall into.

629
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: A great So music and podcasts are fine. So I've

630
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: been listening to your podcast. I was listening to your

631
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: most recent one right up to this, and I was like, oh, shoot,

632
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: be's streaming the night since it's one day, so that

633
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: was kind of hype huh. But yeah, no, oh sorry,

634
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 4: go ahead.

635
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: Oh well, so okay, So so you're not allowed you're

636
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: allowed to listen to podcasts. I assume you're not allowed

637
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: to like crack addict, scroll, uh, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, facial

638
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: media too.

639
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, so one thing on that actually is bizarre.

640
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 4: So every time I've tried to do this in the past,

641
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: I finally cracked it. What ended up happening like taking

642
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: a break from video games or taking a break from

643
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: something else. What ends up happening is your brain notices

644
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: the deficiency and it tries to make up for it

645
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: in other places. So that can either be social media,

646
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 4: YouTube regardless, So higher high dopamine activities like take for instance,

647
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: I take a five day sabbatical from video gaming, but

648
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 4: I'm gonna up is by the second day. I'm gonna

649
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: be just accessing YouTube every other like second, just because

650
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: I'm not getting the same level that I got before.

651
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 4: Someone in the chat was talking about like legal addictions

652
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: or whatever, and I honestly believe that like dopamine or

653
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: like over indulging in the reward system is like the biggest,

654
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 4: like freaking' addiction out there.

655
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: All Right, so you're day four into this thing. You're

656
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: allowed to listen to podcasts. I guess you're allowed. Well,

657
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: I guess you're allowed to be on twitch. Yeah, okay,

658
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: all right, So.

659
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: Well the Twitch part was mostly just because I wanted

660
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: to call it in right here.

661
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll give you a I won't tell who,

662
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: I won't tell your sponsor, oh that you called me?

663
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: What?

664
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: So of your vices, of the things that give you dopamine,

665
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: which ones, like you know, got you off the most.

666
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: What what we're like the biggest uh uh Devil's temptations

667
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: for you? Was it poorn? Was it sugar? Is it weed?

668
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: What's what are your big big vices?

669
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Speaker 4: So definitely sugar and video games. That's another thing too,

670
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: is like cutting out sugar. That has been crazy because

671
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 4: I never realized how much sugar isn't everything you consume.

672
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: Fucking yeah, it's so crazy.

673
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: And I mean I live on a university campus, so

674
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: they're able to get away with like pumping so much

675
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: sugar into everything you eat, because I mean, where else

676
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: are you're going to get food? So yeah, I know

677
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: it's it's wild. It is bizarre. But more than that,

678
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: I'd probably say sugar in video games wan anything just

679
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: in terms of taking up my time and just unhealthiness.

680
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: What kind of video games?

681
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: Honestly, usually I'll end up playing like, uh, Overwatch with

682
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: some buddies, or like will end up playing like jack

683
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 4: Box or Minecraft, just like the typical like oh, do

684
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: it with friends type deal.

685
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you know, if you're doing it with

686
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: like friends, that seems like it's not, you know, horrible.

687
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 4: Well that's what it is in the offset, and then

688
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: I start to break off and do it on my

689
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: own and then fill the rest of my time up,

690
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 4: so it's no longer like a group activity.

691
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: Okay, And how many how many hours a day were

692
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: you playing video games?

693
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: Honestly, anytime I really got free time, So at least

694
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 4: like two to four hours every day, okay, yeah, which

695
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean doesn't sound like a lot, but

696
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 4: add that to social media and right everything.

697
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: Just yeah, you know, I've been playing a lot of switch.

698
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: I've been playing like all the Zelda games on there

699
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: and all the Mario games. Yeah, I'm actually I'm having

700
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: a great time because I used to spend my free

701
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a big like I haven't seen any of

702
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: the TV shows or I haven't seen any movies. But

703
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: I realized that I used to spend my free time

704
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: just like scrolling TikTok or reels or YouTube or whatever

705
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: the fuck, And it was kind of like trash. But

706
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: at least with video games, you know, I'm I am

707
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: focused on something that feels intentional. Right, you can I

708
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: decide to turn on my switch and play Zelda and

709
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: experience it as a thing as opposed to like, I'm

710
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: on TikTok just looking at things that are upsetting, which

711
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: and I found myself there. I didn't decide to be there.

712
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, exactly. I think that's also the same reason

713
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: people get pissed off with multiplayer games and like feel

714
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: wildly depressed, just because at the end of the day

715
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 4: you're not getting anything out of it. With camp I

716
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: games like Breath of the Wild, you feel like you're

717
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 4: actually getting a sense of accomplishment. I know you're talking

718
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 4: about like with that other guy who felt I think

719
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: he was calling about Monica dating sim or something like that,

720
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 4: talking about how you uh saved a village and it

721
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: was like a form of like escapism, but at the

722
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: same time you actually felt like you were that kind

723
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: of hero aspect.

724
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

725
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean I guess my concern is, like, Okay,

726
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: what happens when you shut down that computer. I mean, like, yeah,

727
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 4: that was awesome, but now you got to like focus

728
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 4: in on real life. You have all these stresses and

729
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 4: anxieties and stuff, and hey, you felt that momentary relief,

730
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: but then like all that happiness you're only deriving from

731
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 4: those sources.

732
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: So you know, it's fine, It's very fine. I've thought

733
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: about that, right, I guess, like I sunk a ton

734
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: of time into these Elda games, and when they were over,

735
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I didn't Oh I still have

736
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: to go back into real life. But then I'm like, well,

737
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: you know, when I fucking die, you could say the

738
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: same thing about that. Yeah, true, but that's I don't

739
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: think that's a healthy way to look at, you know,

740
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: being alive. Yeah, I mean that's you know, that's on.

741
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: You can't you cannot refute that.

742
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: But I don't.

743
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have shame over the time I've

744
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: spent playing video games. I probably, you know, hundreds and

745
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of hours into Super Smash, Bros. Melee,

746
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: and you know, at least a few hundred hours to

747
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: switch so far, I just like, you know, don't have

748
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: any shame. I was just what were you gonna say,

749
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you?

750
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: No, I was agreeing, like Super Smash's bomb. But yeah, no,

751
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm not by all means, I'm not discounting that at all.

752
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: I'm on the same page like all of the time

753
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: that I've spent video gaming totally. But I've also like

754
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: especially into like the past few years I've suffered with

755
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: like CD and depression more than anything, and and also ADHD,

756
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 4: so trying to get to the bottom of those things

757
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: and understanding like, Okay, what can I control about my

758
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 4: life to improve it. In the past, I've tried cutting

759
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 4: out video games and dope for me, and like I said,

760
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 4: what I ended up doing was just filling it with

761
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 4: something else, and then I'd rationalize my way back into it,

762
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: so I'd be like, oh, I'll just play a game

763
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: with my friend, and then it would just fall back in,

764
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 4: because I don't think people realize how easy it is

765
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: when you're like addicted to something like this to be like, oh, well,

766
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: I need to message somebody on Instagram or Snapchat and

767
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 4: because I mean it's a form of communication, and then

768
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: I'll leave it alone and not be a dicta yea yeah.

769
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 4: But in terms of like physical symptoms since I started

770
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: doing it, they're a lot stronger than I expected, like

771
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: and not just like subjectively, like the first couple of days,

772
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: I felt exhausted for no reason at all, but it

773
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: felt like it wasn't boredom. It was just like I

774
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 4: was felt purely like drained a little bit. I'm coming

775
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: out of that, like with a vengeance, so I'm feeling

776
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: a lot better today. But that and it felt like

777
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: I had cravings, Like I kept on thinking of ways

778
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: that I could like get dopamine. There's also this really

779
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 4: bizarre like muscle memory thing where I kept on like

780
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 4: going to like Safari on my iPhone and like typing

781
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 4: in YouTube or the news, only to find out like, hey,

782
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: I blocked them on those like passages, those like it's

783
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 4: really bizarre to coming to terms with the fact that's

784
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: like how ingrained it is in you without even really oh.

785
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no, you you you. That's

786
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: one of the scary things is when you realize that

787
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 1: you're like you've programmed yourself to do all that shit.

788
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: No for sure, go ahead, no you go ahead.

789
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen a social dilemma on Netflix?

790
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: I have.

791
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of cheesy that like dramatizations

792
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: and stuff.

793
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: I agree that the dramatizations, but I think what they

794
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: addressed was like the best it's been addressed so far,

795
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: just with the idea of like it's not personal, it's

796
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: not like execs on like Instagram or TikTok or video

797
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 4: game makers are malicious if they want you to like

798
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: suffer anything or like throw away your life to them.

799
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: But it's a business and fundamental goal of make profit,

800
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: and you make profit by increasing engagements. I think that

801
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: focus without questioning the potential like fallbacks just kind of

802
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 4: jacks the whole thing up.

803
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: And it's also weird. I must have said this. I'm

804
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: sure I've said this on a podcast one thousand times,

805
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: but it is so crazy to look at like just

806
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: a timeline of human existence and I guess all of

807
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: existence and see the infinitesimal dot on the infinite timeline

808
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: of existence in which this stuff has even existed, you know,

809
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: and it's only gonna get exponentially crazier. Now I'm impressed

810
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: with you because you did, you are do, You're a

811
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: hit and everything at once.

812
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: Right.

813
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, I'm gonna quit sugar

814
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: for ninety days or I'm gonna quit the Internet for

815
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: ninety days, but you're like, I'm quitting all of everything

816
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: that gives me any happiness in the world for ninety days.

817
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 4: But that's the exact thing, is that if you leave

818
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: anything up, it's simply going to be a substitute. You're

819
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 4: just gonna fall back on something else and eventually you'll

820
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: rationalize your way back into it. It has to be

821
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 4: complete and total in my opinion.

822
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: And you've and you've and you've you've tried this a

823
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: few times before and it has not worked several times.

824
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm I'd like to think of myself as like

825
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 4: a productivity buff. I've found try and like tried to

826
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: find various ways to like deal with procrastination and that

827
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: sort of thing. So like, I have tried this a

828
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: ton of times.

829
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: But what's the farthest you've got.

830
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: Mm hmm on my own accord, Probably like a probably honestly,

831
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: probably like five days.

832
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: We haven't.

833
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: You haven't even broken your record on this current.

834
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: But I wasn't doing the same thing I was. I

835
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 4: was allowing for substitute. This is my first go at

836
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: like cold turkey, and so far it's like I don't

837
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: even have like the same like I can tell there's

838
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 4: a big difference. Rather than just substituting it. Substituting it,

839
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 4: I felt like I was still wasting my time on something,

840
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 4: But now it feels like I'm actually fully committed.

841
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: If you weren't talking to me right now? And I guess,

842
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: is this conversation giving you dopa Maine? You're talking to

843
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: another person.

844
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 4: A get go you are talking to.

845
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: Do you have do you have the desire to jack

846
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: off onto a donut and eat it and then play

847
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: thirty rounds of Overwatch? I don't know why I said

848
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: the thing about jacking off onto a donut and eating it.

849
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: I guess that was that would be like a.

850
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: You know, the the.

851
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: And it's a metaphor. It's a metaphor, a metaphor, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

852
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: or would it be an analogy? I didn't take enough

853
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 4: English for this.

854
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they would talk about this thing of class?

855
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: But did do you have the desire right now to

856
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: do these things?

857
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: So that's like with the cravings and stuff, it's like

858
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 4: it's so fundamentally backgrounds, Like of course you got those

859
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: ingrained habits, like yes, like every single like not every

860
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: single second, you're able to kind of tune it out.

861
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 4: But take for instance, like like the amount of times

862
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: that I'm just like, oh I feel anxious, let me

863
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: check my phone happens way more often than I thought

864
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 4: it did. Like I thought I checked my phone with purpose,

865
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 4: but nah, same thing with overwash. I thought I would

866
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: like rationalize and be like, hey, let me let me

867
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: actually like play a game or two make myself feel good.

868
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: But I'm realizing that's never the case. It's purely just

869
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: like a cycle A it's a it's a like built

870
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: in reaction at this point, built pacify and it's crazy.

871
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: I think I was projecting on you when I said

872
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: the thing about jacking off on the donut, but I'm

873
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: not going to talk about that anymore. All right, before

874
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: we go, I want to know from you just before

875
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: we go, what what what surrounding this? What you're in school,

876
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: What do you like, who you are as a person?

877
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: What do you what do you study?

878
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 4: So I'm studying be IT and marketing management, but like

879
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: I'm at like it's my sophomore year, so I still

880
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: got like a lot of time to figure out where

881
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 4: I want to go with it. Okay, but overall, yeah,

882
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: it's good. I got a girl friend uh this semester,

883
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: so that's pretty hype. We actually knew each other for

884
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 4: like seven years, so I mean we knew each other

885
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 4: for a while until but then she came back to

886
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 4: yeah whatever, we reconnected. So that was pretty hype.

887
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: That's cool.

888
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm roommateing with my best friend. Overall things

889
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: are good aside from like you know, mental wise.

890
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: Well, so you have so you're doing this for ninety days.

891
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my goal.

892
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: Do you tell me and like tell me tell me honestly, yep?

893
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: Do you think Do you think you're going to make

894
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: the ninety days?

895
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: I do?

896
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 4: Okay, I think because I have the mindset now that

897
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: like I'm like, of course everybody's gonna die one day,

898
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 4: but like if I'm going to use up like three

899
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: months of my life to like commit myself just to

900
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: find out something, like just to like commit those three

901
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: months to something I've never done, rather than just like

902
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 4: staying in a habit of something that I know probably

903
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 4: messes with me to some extent. Like I'm like, I

904
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: might as well commit and find out.

905
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: You know, inspired by that. Yeah, but you know what

906
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: talk is cheap? What's your name again?

907
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: It's Aiden.

908
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: The talk is cheap, Aiden with the A which I knew. No,

909
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know that I'm lying, but.

910
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 4: Talk is cheap.

911
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: Uh, you call it?

912
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: Hit me in ninety days, hit me in ninety days.

913
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: Let's see if you did it? I'm if you if

914
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: you do it successfully, I was I was about to say,

915
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: if you do it successfully, I'll give it to try,

916
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: but it's not true. Maybe I'll try. I'd like to

917
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: try it for I should try it for like a week,

918
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: even now I do, I should try for a fucking

919
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: try for an hour, honestly before I can make people.

920
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 4: Say that like one quick thing I want to address

921
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 4: before I do. Go. Yes, So people have said, like

922
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: they've gotten benefits from like a day a week is

923
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 4: a good thing to aim for. But I mean when

924
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 4: you look at like studies and such or not studies,

925
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 4: but like commentary by like top scientists and doctors, they'll

926
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, well, dopamine detals in and of itself

927
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 4: is like not really scientifically correct, but it does address

928
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 4: the reward system. And I think that's because like they're

929
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 4: not really looking at what it does. When your brains

930
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 4: neurons can like conversate with each other, they require dopamine

931
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 4: to kind of like set off those receptors. But when

932
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 4: you're doing a bunch of like high dopamine activities regularly,

933
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: what essentially happens is the brain figures that because it's

934
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 4: getting the same level of dopamine or it's getting like

935
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 4: an non normal amount of dopaine, it like adjusts itself

936
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 4: so that it decreases the amount of receptors so that

937
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 4: when you're doing those high dopamine activities it feels it

938
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: begins to feel normal and not fun. And so then

939
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: when you're doing non high dopamine activities, you just feel

940
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 4: like shit all the time. So that that is like

941
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 4: the concept with the whole thing. But yeah, no, I

942
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 4: just wanted to address that real quick because I feel

943
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 4: like people get give it a bad rep but it

944
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 4: like has worked and has real scientific basis for it.

945
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: That sounded very scientific. It's funny. I'm all, you're always like, uh,

946
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: scrambling around trying to figure out how to fix your

947
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: fucking life at least I am. And it's like, no,

948
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: we did. There's science on this ship. There's actually real

949
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: people did, uh, like wrote books on how to make

950
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: your brain not make you hate yourself. So all right,

951
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: I'll read I'll read some books eaten with a what's that?

952
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: Hit me?

953
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: Hit me with your last thing, hit me in the face,

954
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: give me some with your last thing, last bit. Sorry

955
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: you talked, not me.

956
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 4: Okay, So this is a real shot in the dark here.

957
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 4: I just am curious if you remember it. But a

958
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 4: couple of like a year or two ago, when you're

959
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 4: still streaming on our PAN for Reddit, Yeah, I sent

960
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: you a message threatening you with my juggling abilities and

961
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, no, juggling. I don't know if you

962
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 4: would remember that, but like that really stuck out to me.

963
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: Was it a private message or like it was you

964
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: said you what did you say? You said, I will

965
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: kill you with your my juggles?

966
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 4: No, Like, I don't know. I was juggling on our

967
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 4: PAN and you like always boosted all the way to

968
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 4: like first I always was like bruh, like all the

969
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 4: arpans people are going to watch the get go.

970
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: I But I mean, so you just sent me a

971
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: message saying I I will threaten you with my juggling

972
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: abilities and I said, oh.

973
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 4: No, judge, I think I will destroy with my juggle. Yeah.

974
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 4: I don't know that was that was a weird place

975
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 4: for me at the time. But yeah, a little little

976
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: little shot in.

977
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: The dark right there, to think you could have, you know,

978
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: been a professional juggler, but now you're you know, sitting

979
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: staring at walls trying to fix your brain. Yep, you

980
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: know it, and having it sounds like having a good

981
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: time doing it. I'm inspired. I'm gonna do that tomorrow.

982
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: Please just try it, Okay, all right, you.

983
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Take care of with the name

984
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: Goes on the line.