1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Onward and upward to Mark Halpern. Now. Uh he is 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: host of With All due respect weeknights at five pm 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Television. You can also catch this delightful show 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg in Washington, d C. So Mark, a lot 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: going on, and certainly for Hillary Clinton. Um, there's a 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: latest report on Benghazi. Uh this how how? How much 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: of a deal is this for Hillary? I'm she says 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: it's done. You know what happened? Does this offers anything 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: new or anything that could influence voters on her campaign? 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: I think very unlikely to influence voters, will continue to 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: energize some Republicans. I think if Donald Trump can begin 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: to talk about Hillary Flumen's record on judgment on things 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: like Libya, uh not not necessarily relates to the horrible 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: events tonight for Americans were killed, but the policy that 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: led to such instability. There that the potential vulnerability for her. 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: But she remains much more vulnerable on how voters feel better, 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: on the email controversy, which is stoked impressions about her 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: trustworthiness and truthfulness, and on whether she has an economic vision. 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I think that I wouldn't even put ben guys in 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: the top ten in terms of things that potentially make 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: her a vulnerable candidate against Donald Trump. Where does what is? 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: What is the latest? What do we stand on Hillary 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 1: Clinton's email? It seems like almost every day there's something 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: in the news about the latest store. How would you 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: sum that up for us at this point, Mark, Well, 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: the biggest aspect of it is the FBI investigation, which 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: is occurring largely out of you not entirely clear even 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: to my best sources where the investigation stands. Hillary Clinton 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: has not been interviewed yet by the FBI. As far 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: as we know, we expect that to eventually happen. I 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: remain skeptical based on the law and the facts, that 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: that she'll be indicted. But there are other things that 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: are keeping the story alive and certainly adding to a 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: sense of of of political instability. One is the civil 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: cases that relate to her email practices that occasionally yield 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: depositions and other news and then um this week, in 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: a move that even some Democrats recognize an extraordinarily bad judgment, 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: President Clinton found himself on the tarmac at the Phoenix 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Airport at the same time as the Attorney General of 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: the United States, Literal Lauretta Lynch, he's overseeing the investigation, 41 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: and he got on our plane and they, by their accounts, socialized. 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't have any reason to believe they talked about 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: the case. But the suspicion of of the specter of 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: President Clinton talking to the woman who's whose decision could, 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: in theory make or break his wife's chance of being president, 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people just think better off not socializing 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: with that particular fellow traveler at that point. Polls, there 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: are many polls, and they seem to me mark to 49 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: have divergent results. Which which are the polls that are out? Now? 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Do you do you most take take with the most 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: credibility of telling us where Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton 52 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: stand visa via each other as we had toward novement. Well, 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, Trump is gonna have to change the nature 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: of the electorate that votes for Republican presidential candidates to win, 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: and his campaign wouldn't deny that. So there's some question 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: of whether the polls are capturing that kind of both 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: demographic and electoral college strategy that Trump would have to 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: rely on to win his strength in important states like 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Michigan or rather Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, UH is different from 60 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: most of the national polls, and people tend to overreact 61 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: to snapshots of where we are. There's no doubt in 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: my mind that Hillary Clinton is more likely to win 63 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: than not. It's more doubt in my mind that Democrats 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: have an electoral college advantage based on their performance in 65 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: the last several elections. But I think Donald Trump has 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: proven that he can gain and lose support pretty easily, 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: and coming out of a very bad period, I don't 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: think anybody should be surprised he's behind. He does have 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: some structural problems right now with certain parts of the electorate, 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: and that's reflected in the national polls that show him 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: down anywhere from four points to twelve points. We just 72 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: saw in the UK where Poles were not mislet us. 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: You could say, what about the polls in the US. 74 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: I guess yesterday said they can be much more massage. 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps some people know would be be possible to get 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: a surprise like that in November. Well, the fact is 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: the betting markets were wrong in Brexit. The polls were 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: perfectly accurate. Uh if you look at margin of error, 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: which you know, you need to give the posters credit 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: for recognizing that there is a margin of error in 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: these polls. The polls consistently showed that the outcome would 82 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: be close. On the outcome was closed. The betting markets 83 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: were the ones that were wrong. And I've been a 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: big critic of betting markets because if they're not about finance, 85 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: if they're about politics or sports, I'm not sure I 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: trust the expertise of those people. But we always trust 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: the expertise of Mark Halprin. 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