1
00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,440
Speaker 1: Yo yo, Yo, yo yo. Welcome back to It's Up

2
00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,520
Speaker 1: There Podcast. I am your active and attractive hosts for

3
00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,560
Speaker 1: another episode of the fastest growing podcasts on the market

4
00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,800
Speaker 1: right now. Again, we want to say thank you, man,

5
00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,840
Speaker 1: shout out to everybody that's been tuned in, tapped in,

6
00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,440
Speaker 1: locked in, you know exactly what the vibes is. Number One,

7
00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,320
Speaker 1: we want to say Happy New Year, you know from

8
00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,680
Speaker 1: It's Up There Podcast. Definitely no small feat for us

9
00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,920
Speaker 1: to make it to another year. It's been a lot

10
00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,000
Speaker 1: going on in the world, so we definitely want to

11
00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,800
Speaker 1: clap it up for everybody that's been a part of

12
00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,040
Speaker 1: our journey twenty twenty two. Though we for sure got

13
00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,280
Speaker 1: some things up by sleeve that's gonna shift some things right.

14
00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,520
Speaker 1: You know. I always tell people, you know you're dealing

15
00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,320
Speaker 1: with momentum when you're working with me, man, because the

16
00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,080
Speaker 1: streets and the people are working with it. They're embracing it.

17
00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,559
Speaker 1: And I meant not the cuss. It's always a thing

18
00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,720
Speaker 1: you don't post the cuss at the beginning of your part.

19
00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,480
Speaker 1: But we'll chalked it up, specially in the beginning of

20
00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,920
Speaker 1: the new year. But we'll chalked it up to this episode,

21
00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,680
Speaker 1: but UM a lot to talk about it in the culture.

22
00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,160
Speaker 1: Last week, I noticed that I didn't get to talk

23
00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,200
Speaker 1: about um the homie Draco or the rule of being

24
00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,440
Speaker 1: stabbed at the La Festival. Number One, we want to

25
00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,920
Speaker 1: say RP to him, Um, another falling soldier. You know

26
00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Um that the game has produced, So

27
00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,600
Speaker 1: we definitely want to say um, R and P and

28
00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,479
Speaker 1: condolences to his family for the way that that happened

29
00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,960
Speaker 1: to him. Um. I was talking to my old lady

30
00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:37,839
Speaker 1: today and death is just such a It's just such

31
00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,920
Speaker 1: an interesting thing, right, And I don't mean interesting to

32
00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,560
Speaker 1: see people got interesting wrong. Number one. People think when

33
00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,200
Speaker 1: you say interesting, you want to indulge, right, And I

34
00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,920
Speaker 1: want to you know, I want to reject for the

35
00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,760
Speaker 1: for the for the for the universal purposes, right. I

36
00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,400
Speaker 1: want to reject any harm or things like that to

37
00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,720
Speaker 1: come my way. But when you think about death and

38
00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,640
Speaker 1: you think about it happening, I think that death is

39
00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,360
Speaker 1: a part of life. So a lot of people are

40
00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,520
Speaker 1: in a position to know that it's gonna take place

41
00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,560
Speaker 1: at some point. The problem is a lot of people

42
00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:19,160
Speaker 1: are dealing with unexpected death, and that's a different fight. Right.

43
00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,440
Speaker 1: The idea that you will kiss your old lady or

44
00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,160
Speaker 1: talk to your own your homeboy, or your brother or

45
00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,040
Speaker 1: your cousin or your sister, or your or your boyfriend

46
00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,880
Speaker 1: or whoever it is that you may be involved with,

47
00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,080
Speaker 1: the idea that you would talked to them one minute,

48
00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,040
Speaker 1: make plans for the next day or the next hour,

49
00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,560
Speaker 1: and then the next thing, you know, you receive a

50
00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,680
Speaker 1: phone call. I just know how that shatters. You know

51
00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,480
Speaker 1: that shatters? Man, That that right there does a different

52
00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,320
Speaker 1: thing to the mindset. Because if you're dealing with death,

53
00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,720
Speaker 1: and let's say, granted and got ninety years old, and

54
00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,320
Speaker 1: for the last four years it's kind of been a

55
00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:02,600
Speaker 1: roller coaster for she, but she's kind of slowly transitioning, right,

56
00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,639
Speaker 1: And so mentally, what that does for you is it

57
00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,320
Speaker 1: prepares you to be able to lay your love when

58
00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,919
Speaker 1: the rest you know, the idea that just all of

59
00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,240
Speaker 1: a sudden one day, You know, man, it's just a

60
00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,240
Speaker 1: different thing. Man. Speaking speaking about LA two, I just

61
00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,280
Speaker 1: spoke with the Compton Menace shut out to the homey

62
00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,760
Speaker 1: Compton Menace, and I told him, like, yo, man, I'm

63
00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna hold up on LA man. Y'all gang

64
00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,519
Speaker 1: politics out there right now. It's going crazy. Y'all got

65
00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,680
Speaker 1: it hot out there and not y'all like he had

66
00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,920
Speaker 1: something to do with it, but he big home on

67
00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,320
Speaker 1: the West Coast, so you know, he knows what I'm

68
00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,200
Speaker 1: talking about. He just you know, and we talked on

69
00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,360
Speaker 1: Christmas and he just was like, Yo, man, that's that's

70
00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,200
Speaker 1: that's that's cool. You know what I'm saying. To see,

71
00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,280
Speaker 1: they got to live in the war zone. It's a

72
00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,000
Speaker 1: different fight, bro, them dudes. They're got to live out

73
00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,600
Speaker 1: there where you know you you niggas are visiting get killed.

74
00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,240
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. You gotta think what they due

75
00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,520
Speaker 1: to some niggas like y'all. Y'all niggas coming out here

76
00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,960
Speaker 1: for shows and getting killed. I got the leave down

77
00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,240
Speaker 1: here on this street, you understand. So I'm dealing with

78
00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,920
Speaker 1: a high level of watch it didn't kill it if

79
00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,320
Speaker 1: it moved wrong, you know what I'm saying. So I'm

80
00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,920
Speaker 1: just telling bro, like La is a different place right now.

81
00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,480
Speaker 1: Let's um, but let's look at the official press release

82
00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:26,000
Speaker 1: from ABC about Draco the Rule exposition Park. I ain't

83
00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,080
Speaker 1: playing steps lighting is amazing. Scuff marks on my shows

84
00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,320
Speaker 1: on flow playing manis Masons. I told her, if you

85
00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,000
Speaker 1: love me, baby, show me with a payment, quoth The

86
00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,159
Speaker 1: La Times and Rolling Stone are now reporting rapper Draco

87
00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,159
Speaker 1: the Ruler was the victim and last night's scuffle behind

88
00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,720
Speaker 1: the stage at the Once Upon a Time in La

89
00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,520
Speaker 1: Music Festival. I witness news reporter Leticia Ware's live outside

90
00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,480
Speaker 1: Bank of California Stadium where it all happened. Leticia, what's

91
00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,080
Speaker 1: the latest. Well, good morning to you, John. Yeah, we're

92
00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,440
Speaker 1: out here outside the Exposition Park where that stabbing took place.

93
00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,360
Speaker 1: We're still waiting to hear from a fish shoals to

94
00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,520
Speaker 1: give us the official word on the victim's identity. But

95
00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,080
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the La Times reporting that twenty eight

96
00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,840
Speaker 1: year old Draco the Ruler what the victim of that

97
00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,800
Speaker 1: fatal stabbing. Now we have some video from an eyewitness

98
00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,200
Speaker 1: news view Let's ahead and take a look at that.

99
00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,159
Speaker 1: New video from that eyewitness appears to show a fight

100
00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,080
Speaker 1: prior to the stabbing. Now that viewer tells us he

101
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,479
Speaker 1: believes this is what led up to the violence. This

102
00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,000
Speaker 1: all happening around eight forty last night during the Once

103
00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,640
Speaker 1: Upon a Time La Festival concert. That's when investigators say

104
00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,360
Speaker 1: that some sort of altercation took place, a witnesses saying

105
00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,600
Speaker 1: that altercation taking place backstage. Now. The victim was taken

106
00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,920
Speaker 1: to the hospital in critical condition, but according to the sources,

107
00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,680
Speaker 1: he has later died. The LAPD was on seen to

108
00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,520
Speaker 1: disperse the crowd after the concert was officially shut down.

109
00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,680
Speaker 1: LAPD joined with the HP who were on hand in

110
00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,440
Speaker 1: riot here as the concert was evacuated last night. We're

111
00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,000
Speaker 1: just standing there for like almost more than an hour,

112
00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,839
Speaker 1: like waiting for the next reformance and then they and

113
00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,039
Speaker 1: then next cno, like that's when we start seeing people

114
00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,320
Speaker 1: going on social media and finding out that there was

115
00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,320
Speaker 1: a brawl and stuff. Security told us the festival that

116
00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,800
Speaker 1: stage was shut down and pretty much we could go

117
00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,520
Speaker 1: to the rest of the festival. But as soon as

118
00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,440
Speaker 1: I happened, pretty much room the night is for league now.

119
00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,360
Speaker 1: Some of the other performers that were set to take

120
00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,360
Speaker 1: the stage included Snoop Dogg, fifty Cent and Ice Cube.

121
00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,839
Speaker 1: Of course, that did not happen after the concert was canceled.

122
00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,480
Speaker 1: And we've also been hearing from social media and even

123
00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,320
Speaker 1: from a fan that came out here to express his

124
00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:35,320
Speaker 1: condolences after learning of the death. Reporting Life here from

125
00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:41,560
Speaker 1: Exposition Park with ABC. So as you hear altercation took place,

126
00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,480
Speaker 1: they say that a crew came and see the thing

127
00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,240
Speaker 1: that y'all may not understand. People that's listening, watching and

128
00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,920
Speaker 1: observed and see the spectators don't never know the rules

129
00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,160
Speaker 1: of the game. They just have to deal with the results.

130
00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, y'all don't really know that

131
00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,160
Speaker 1: we got to stand on their business. And that's what

132
00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,679
Speaker 1: I'm saying about when you deal with La gang culture.

133
00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,280
Speaker 1: That's why I'm telling you. Man. As a young boy,

134
00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,560
Speaker 1: all my homies that tell you, I would always say

135
00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,080
Speaker 1: a homie, you crib why you can't call snoop or homer?

136
00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,640
Speaker 1: You blood why you can't hit up shoog. I was

137
00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,400
Speaker 1: always confused as to how I'm willing to die for

138
00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,280
Speaker 1: the same things. And then there's no line of communication.

139
00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,320
Speaker 1: As I've got older, now I'm noticing that they copied

140
00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,560
Speaker 1: that they just was copying the La gang culture and

141
00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,480
Speaker 1: they was taking the other places and people were implementing

142
00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,520
Speaker 1: things that they didn't understand, like you have certain gags

143
00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,160
Speaker 1: that on the West Coast, certain you know, and I

144
00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:45,000
Speaker 1: just recently found this out. Certain things don't go together,

145
00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,480
Speaker 1: like if you say trade and blood, those two things

146
00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,640
Speaker 1: can't be in the same sentence, according to La. But

147
00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,200
Speaker 1: if you go to New York, they got nine trade bloods, right.

148
00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,680
Speaker 1: So so what happens is what you're dealing with is

149
00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,920
Speaker 1: what happens with information, and it gets lost in translation. Right.

150
00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,920
Speaker 1: So when you take something from the West Coast and

151
00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,040
Speaker 1: the nigga branch out with it and he end up

152
00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,880
Speaker 1: overhill over there, you know if it ain't an original

153
00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,640
Speaker 1: West Coast nigga. See, this is the thing. If they

154
00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,480
Speaker 1: would have sent West Coast niggas all around the world

155
00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,880
Speaker 1: to put the game down and everything would have been cool.

156
00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,520
Speaker 1: We had some West Coast niggas in my time at

157
00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,080
Speaker 1: a young age with the cript talking the blood talk.

158
00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,440
Speaker 1: But what happened was they sent them movies all across

159
00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,920
Speaker 1: the world, and then movies didn't give no instruction. So

160
00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,480
Speaker 1: the movie just gave the culture and made it look

161
00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,000
Speaker 1: fun to Dicky Fitz the flag hanging out the pocket,

162
00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,320
Speaker 1: the niggas talking and saying cus and blood and you

163
00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,520
Speaker 1: know these things. So people were infatuated with their ability

164
00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,320
Speaker 1: to understand that from a very very high view. But

165
00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,480
Speaker 1: when you drill it all the way down bro, then

166
00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,040
Speaker 1: politics is very serious. Like if I'm if I'm this

167
00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of crib and we run into this kind of blood,

168
00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,040
Speaker 1: that's a platinum plaque, right then there's nowhere around it.

169
00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,040
Speaker 1: There ain't no talking it out. There ain't no looking

170
00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,360
Speaker 1: fun over here in the cone and trying to mug

171
00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,000
Speaker 1: and put your stabbed game on. We got to get it.

172
00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,040
Speaker 1: You got to go platinum right here off the scribble.

173
00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,360
Speaker 1: And so you're dealing with what looks like to be

174
00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,640
Speaker 1: the case when we're dealing with Draco, do you understand

175
00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,640
Speaker 1: looks like they run into some people that it's on site,

176
00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,079
Speaker 1: This is an on site situation. The problem then becomes

177
00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,680
Speaker 1: how somebody to get a knife in. Now I'm always

178
00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,199
Speaker 1: in somewhere with something because I know somebody else in

179
00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,600
Speaker 1: somewhere with something. I ain't never button nagked, never bud nigga,

180
00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,360
Speaker 1: never ever bud nigga, because I know, yo, it'll be

181
00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,160
Speaker 1: it'll be my luck. Right then I'm whimping him and

182
00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,920
Speaker 1: come up stabbed. I can't never play like it. I'm

183
00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm gonna try to do the stabbing.

184
00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,280
Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to flight a fight, you

185
00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying I'm always probably gonna fight. You

186
00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because again I'm looking at it.

187
00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,360
Speaker 1: So when you look at Draco and and you look

188
00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,040
Speaker 1: at them his crew, which was about four five niggas

189
00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240
Speaker 1: running into a group of niggas. Now here's another thing

190
00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,959
Speaker 1: that that's saying. They're saying that there was a very

191
00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:20,080
Speaker 1: unique approach to security and to the amount of people

192
00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,600
Speaker 1: that the artists can have with them. Very unique, meaning

193
00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,640
Speaker 1: that that hadn't happened before. They didn't usually get this

194
00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:35,400
Speaker 1: kind of resistance. Right, So Draco shows up and you

195
00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,800
Speaker 1: deal with him having to stand on them gang politics

196
00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,880
Speaker 1: or just the politics of its own site, them own

197
00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,839
Speaker 1: site politics. I'll say that this is the difference when

198
00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,040
Speaker 1: you're dealing with somebody that come from it and somebody

199
00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,040
Speaker 1: that play with it. So when we deal with Takasha,

200
00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,600
Speaker 1: if you remember, Takashi was running around with the gang culture, right,

201
00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,320
Speaker 1: but they running too Takasha at the outport his home.

202
00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,959
Speaker 1: Is they standing on the game business? Pop it on off?

203
00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,960
Speaker 1: They're talking too much. Let's get it cracking, right, Takashi

204
00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,120
Speaker 1: doing everything he can to try to stay out of that. Draco,

205
00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,280
Speaker 1: them and other rap dudes game and these kind of dudes,

206
00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,360
Speaker 1: A lot of these rap dudes. They running on in

207
00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,520
Speaker 1: a blender, you know, and so what you're running in

208
00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:28,600
Speaker 1: there and then somebody having a knife. Unfortunate events took place,

209
00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And again, La, man, right now,

210
00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,760
Speaker 1: it's been very high. It's been a situation where even

211
00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,200
Speaker 1: the big home is that I talked to from out there,

212
00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, they know a little bit, but they don't

213
00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,080
Speaker 1: know enough to really really know something, you know what

214
00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It just seems like it's it's out of

215
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,600
Speaker 1: control and it's very sticky because you're being a place

216
00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,959
Speaker 1: not knowing. See the problem with LA, you out there

217
00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,680
Speaker 1: not knowing that you in real life monopoly. La to

218
00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,240
Speaker 1: me is a real life monopoly board. You know, these

219
00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,200
Speaker 1: people on this, on this and this, and you could

220
00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,800
Speaker 1: be riding through that are not really knowing or at

221
00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,280
Speaker 1: these certain little spots you haven't been booked to come

222
00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,240
Speaker 1: picking up this little bitty back in. But you really

223
00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of what you don't even know you

224
00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800
Speaker 1: in the middle of. But those of us, they come

225
00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,920
Speaker 1: like that or come from that, we understand the underworld.

226
00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,440
Speaker 1: So when we start to see things happen like that's

227
00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,680
Speaker 1: happening in La Alder. The burglaries, the robberies, the we're

228
00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,520
Speaker 1: talking about. They're walking up to people. You usually would

229
00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,360
Speaker 1: think that once you make it into the restaurant that

230
00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,920
Speaker 1: you're safe. In La they're walking up on people inside

231
00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,479
Speaker 1: of the restaurant with the gun inside of the restaurant,

232
00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,600
Speaker 1: robbing you with seventy five other people sitting around eating

233
00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,520
Speaker 1: with a mask on and got the gun on you

234
00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,960
Speaker 1: like yo, come on with your things like so. And

235
00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,880
Speaker 1: they're doing a whole bunch of home invasions, whole bunch

236
00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,719
Speaker 1: of home invasions, you know. So I tell people to

237
00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,800
Speaker 1: stay dangerous, you know, stay dangerous, dog and and and

238
00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,120
Speaker 1: that's always something that I like to say. Now well,

239
00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,760
Speaker 1: also I would think that with all of these things

240
00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,360
Speaker 1: happening around hip hop festivals, within the next five years,

241
00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,560
Speaker 1: I would see that this hurts the business of hip

242
00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,320
Speaker 1: hop festivals. Not only the Draco, but the Draco thing,

243
00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,880
Speaker 1: the Boostit thing, the the Travis Scott thing, all these

244
00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,319
Speaker 1: things are happening to rap shit. So the investors are

245
00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,360
Speaker 1: gonna do what do what investors do du a risk assessment? Right,

246
00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,040
Speaker 1: And if we're just looking at bodies and inventors. We

247
00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,200
Speaker 1: ain't looking at the inventory. We're just looking at bodies

248
00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,040
Speaker 1: and ticket sales, and so we can put the same

249
00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,800
Speaker 1: kind of thing together for a totally different genre and

250
00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,959
Speaker 1: not deal with the mess. We usually try to do that.

251
00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,800
Speaker 1: And that's why I say about rap in our culture,

252
00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,600
Speaker 1: we got to use that energy that we got to

253
00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,760
Speaker 1: do it on signing do X, Y and Z. We

254
00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,280
Speaker 1: got to use that energy to fuel some other things

255
00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,120
Speaker 1: that we really need to be fueled. You know, for

256
00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,439
Speaker 1: our community. You understand me as far as as far

257
00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,800
Speaker 1: as me, I know that my power comes by giving

258
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,640
Speaker 1: game out every week. You know, these people come high

259
00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,040
Speaker 1: leading me. You understand me. People really really really is

260
00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,800
Speaker 1: locked in and tuned in. And so it's so many

261
00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,760
Speaker 1: people that I've touched and they say, Yo, man, you

262
00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,680
Speaker 1: really be speaking what I need to hear. And so

263
00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,600
Speaker 1: I understand that. And that's why I tell people and

264
00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,040
Speaker 1: see sometimes I don't talking riddles sometimes, you know, so

265
00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,200
Speaker 1: when I tell people to yo, you gotta pay me

266
00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,520
Speaker 1: to stand up, they don't really understand, you know what

267
00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And what I'm saying is, hey, man, I

268
00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,160
Speaker 1: make all my money sitting down. I make all my

269
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,200
Speaker 1: money in front of this thing, telling people the game,

270
00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,200
Speaker 1: breaking down the bitterness, trying to let people understand the

271
00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,600
Speaker 1: difference between knowledge and money, trying to bridge the gap

272
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,000
Speaker 1: of knowledge and money, telling people the different between being

273
00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,840
Speaker 1: rich and being liberated. You understand, I make all my

274
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,600
Speaker 1: money sitting down, so you have to pay me to

275
00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,160
Speaker 1: get up and come to hell do that, this, that,

276
00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,359
Speaker 1: and the third. I'm building something that don't require your attention.

277
00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm the dude they bring to the game.

278
00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,040
Speaker 1: The conversations you understand, like a lot of things happening

279
00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,280
Speaker 1: on Land right now to the day started from me

280
00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,800
Speaker 1: talking about it, you know what I'm saying. And I

281
00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,360
Speaker 1: think that people have to put a certain level of

282
00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:41,360
Speaker 1: respect on that. You know. Um, but yeah, man Ah

283
00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,920
Speaker 1: Peter to Drake O. Man, the game is the game,

284
00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,240
Speaker 1: and I hate it. You know, it's an unfortunate situation.

285
00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,120
Speaker 1: Like I say, Man, we gotta do something about getting

286
00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,920
Speaker 1: some money, man, and trying to and trying to help

287
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,680
Speaker 1: some other people, man, and and really stand away from

288
00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,880
Speaker 1: killing each other. But then again, I say, damn, you know,

289
00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640
Speaker 1: because I just was talking to boot Gut a casino,

290
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I'd be thinking I can squatch beef.

291
00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got big feet, so

292
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,920
Speaker 1: I think I can squash it. But then I get

293
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,360
Speaker 1: the thing and when them bullets get exchanged, I really

294
00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,720
Speaker 1: need to mind my building it. Yeah, me get the

295
00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,120
Speaker 1: shooting at each other alone. Need to mind it, bidding

296
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,120
Speaker 1: it because if somebody's shooting at me and you're telling

297
00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,720
Speaker 1: me to lead them alone, I don't really you know,

298
00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about that unless you

299
00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,840
Speaker 1: ferra Con or somebody. You know what I'm saying, loone,

300
00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,160
Speaker 1: cain't you know? I ain't really trying to step into

301
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,760
Speaker 1: doing all that, you know what I'm saying. So if

302
00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,640
Speaker 1: I talk to dudes, it's about situations, It's about what

303
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120
Speaker 1: may have happened. But I can't be the dude that's

304
00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,080
Speaker 1: running around trying to squatsh shit. I ain't doing that,

305
00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Respectfully, you know, I put

306
00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,480
Speaker 1: a little game down and hopefully they see the other side.

307
00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,000
Speaker 1: But I ain't really putting too much into trying to

308
00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,400
Speaker 1: squash these dudes beefs and the olet I can't, you

309
00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just don't have that wheel

310
00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:05,359
Speaker 1: power and I'm emotionally tied into danger. You know. So

311
00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,400
Speaker 1: if somebody bring danger to me, don't Nobody can't tell

312
00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,040
Speaker 1: me to leave them alone, you know what I'm saying.

313
00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,199
Speaker 1: So it's like, yo, because they try to harm me.

314
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,760
Speaker 1: And I see what happened. When you leave a nigga alone,

315
00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,119
Speaker 1: they kill you. Yeah, when you leave a nigga alone,

316
00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,359
Speaker 1: they kill you. You know, because for some reason you

317
00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,840
Speaker 1: ain't pushing the line. It seemed like it ain't number

318
00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,960
Speaker 1: one or two things, either the hunter or the hunted.

319
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,080
Speaker 1: It don't seem like it's no in the middle. If

320
00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,920
Speaker 1: you're asking me, you know, I come from dog eat

321
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,040
Speaker 1: dog world, respectfully, you know what I'm saying. So I

322
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,359
Speaker 1: don't know nothing about in the middle of You know,

323
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240
Speaker 1: you either gonna be hunting or you're gonna be the hunted.

324
00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,200
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna be hunting you the next the next thing

325
00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,600
Speaker 1: I want to talk about, and these two things right

326
00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 1: here again, everybody know I don't operate with no notes,

327
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just come put the game down,

328
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,879
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And um, it's getting me

329
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: to a certain level. This year, we're gonna really really

330
00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,879
Speaker 1: turn it up. Like we're gonna really really turn it

331
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,400
Speaker 1: up this year. I'm telling you that. For show now,

332
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,800
Speaker 1: I want to talk about jay Z going on Twitter

333
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,760
Speaker 1: saying that no one can beat them in the versus

334
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,960
Speaker 1: um and a bunch of other things will play a

335
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,640
Speaker 1: little bit of it really quickly. The music, music labels

336
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 1: and the music business should be to facilitate into you know,

337
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 1: enhance that to help you to get your music hurt

338
00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,679
Speaker 1: by a wider audience. UM. So that's the attitude that

339
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,680
Speaker 1: you have to have come in all you should be independent.

340
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 1: I see I see guys like left on here. I

341
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I didn't create the Independent Manual,

342
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,359
Speaker 1: but I definitely added some major chapters. So to see

343
00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,919
Speaker 1: people you know, um, you know, going about this business

344
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,119
Speaker 1: the way they are now and being like aware and

345
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,639
Speaker 1: being a stupid about you know, about the business of music,

346
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, makes me, you know, super happy. And I'm

347
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,719
Speaker 1: happy for you because again you get to explore you know,

348
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 1: freedoms and things that you've you know, you probably wouldn't

349
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,679
Speaker 1: have done in the past. And I'm glad And I

350
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 1: do want to say this because he ain't lying about that.

351
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 1: And as much as again I'm not critical about these men,

352
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,679
Speaker 1: I'm never critical about people I'm critical or the information.

353
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 1: It's important that the right information is put out there

354
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 1: only because there's people depending on it. That these people

355
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,680
Speaker 1: are never talked to, that I'll never talk to if

356
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Like my uncles say, fall off when you're wrong.

357
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. So if I'm wrong, I

358
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: need people to pull my cotail, or even if there's

359
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 1: another perspective, you know, start your platform or whatever it

360
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: is you may do somebody. You know, we got to

361
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 1: make sure that the both sides are being told. So

362
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 1: I want to definitely set that precedent whenever I talk

363
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 1: about the ogs and the greats and the icons, the legends,

364
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 1: the living legends, the deceased legends, the people in our

365
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 1: culture that carried our flag to places that maybe others

366
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 1: couldn't enter. I definitely speak with a certain level of

367
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: appreciation when I speak about them. With that being said, though,

368
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: I think there's a level of confusion as too. Not

369
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 1: who belongs in the game or who did stuff in

370
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: the game, is just how much they did in the game.

371
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: And also I think that there's missing pages. Not that

372
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: the pages ain't been wrote, but in certain books the

373
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: pages come up missing. My job is to take all

374
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 1: the books that's out there, put this thing together and

375
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: provide a platform in which the full specs, the full

376
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: spec trum is considered. Right. We love all of the pioneers.

377
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: We understand that there's been life changing sacrifices. Me being

378
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: a creator, I understand that the level of perseverance, the

379
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: level of I gotta have it. You know, with jay

380
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: Z fighting against the ghosts of Tupac, the ghosts are

381
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: biggie them dudes. We wasn't even that to compete, and

382
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 1: they was comparing Jay to them. I know what that's like.

383
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Maybe not to that magnitude. But as a creator, I

384
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: can place myself. That's one of the the attributes that

385
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: you have when you become a creator, Right, You're able

386
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: to place yourself in these different scenarios and you're able

387
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: to get things from them, digest them right, and then

388
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: preach the gospel. You know. But when he says that

389
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: he added to the business at him in right of

390
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: the game, we gotta give him that. When we look

391
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: at the game prior to him or at the same

392
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: time as him. You gotta think when Jay was talking

393
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: that one million, two million, three million, four, when he

394
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: was talking that shit baby in cash money and then

395
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: was jumping out of helicopters that they showed the game

396
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: was moving to what you see it now. He had

397
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: to fight through that because the game was moving to

398
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: the stunting, to the necklace and the chains and the diamonds.

399
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: They were always there, but now it's about to take

400
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: a stronghold. It's about with this cash money wave coming.

401
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: This juvenile guy, this pimp c dude over here, this

402
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: master p dude with dropping something that's going gold every month.

403
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: You know, there's things happening right at the same time.

404
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: Now p shortly after they start to dissolve, and in

405
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: regards to music, because his hat, his hand is in

406
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: a whole lot of different pots, he starts to dissolve.

407
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: But now we're dealing with cash money. You see, Jay

408
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: got to reach the juven now, he got to consider

409
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: old now this is coming. So he did. He went

410
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: through a lot. But when we talk about business, he

411
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: was talking business back then. He was talking Sean John

412
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: made thirty million last year. You know, I means Doc

413
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: caught us on my feet. You know, he was talking

414
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: that business talk back then. So if anybody dispute that,

415
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: they would be sadly mistaken. You know what I'm saying

416
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: this dude here, jay Z. You know again, not that

417
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: I need to say it, because it's painfully obvious, right,

418
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: because we're dealing with the results, right, We're looking at

419
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: a bid and when we look at net worth, you

420
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: understand me. So we're dealing with results. It ain't that

421
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: I need to say it. I just had to reiterate

422
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: it for the people that knew the class. See, people

423
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: just not getting the class. So you gotta start updating folks.

424
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: And that's when he come out here and then say

425
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: little things like this. But let's listen to a little

426
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: more this album. You made, this album, you know, one

427
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: of the toughest I was with me to mate was

428
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: the last album I made. Like you know, I felt

429
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: like four or four is one of my best written songs,

430
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 1: not in terms of it had the best metaphors and

431
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: things like that, but it's the song I've always wanted

432
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: to make and I would like, you know, hide it

433
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: with like humor and you know, things like that I

434
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: create song cry. You know, we all just say you

435
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: don't do somebody like that and you know, and kind

436
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: of like sugarcoat it. But I felt like four to

437
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: four or four was just raw and it was honest,

438
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: and it was like the song that I always wanted

439
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: to make, but like getting one to ever be in

440
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: a space where I was that vulnerable because the metrics

441
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: of what I wanted didn't dictate that, Like I had

442
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: to chase Billboard and I had to do that. You know,

443
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: once you let go of all that you don't you

444
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: become free like a true artist, and you can make

445
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: the things that you really want to make. And I

446
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: know that's a long answer, but I felt I old

447
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: you that for that, for that now I appreciate that,

448
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: and I feel that and and I guess my question

449
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: is to be clear so that people could be clear

450
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: if after twenty years, why would it Why would the

451
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: label not want to promote you for your last record?

452
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: Like that's almost like a celebration, right, Like why why

453
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: would that happen? Well, two things is another great question. Um,

454
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: labels are not taught to to like so you would

455
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: think we've done this relationship. You know, we've had this

456
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: great relationship for twenty years. Let's all celebrate. But you

457
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: know it doesn't behoove a label to to for two reasons.

458
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: And this is just man again. I'm not I'm not

459
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: anti label, you know, I'm just pro artists, right, I

460
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: think I think I think that, you know, I think

461
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 1: it's clear to say that because you know, I like

462
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: that narratives. I just want to be super clear with

463
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: my intentions. And what I'm saying is, you know, people

464
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: oftentimes do with they're taught, not what's right. So if

465
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: someone taught you that it's not great business to UM

466
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: promote an artists on their way out, there's no longer

467
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: going to be with you because the next round of

468
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: artists may look and think, oh wow, at least it

469
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: was successful without them, Maybe I'll be successful without them.

470
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, So it's not about

471
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: feelings or emotion. It's about protecting a business that's in

472
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: the place that some people, not all, some people like

473
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: the way it operates to that UM so there's no

474
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: incentive in it for a record label to promote you.

475
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: And that's just how I felt on my last album.

476
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: I felt like there's no incentive in it for them

477
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: to promote my last album because I'm not gonna be

478
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: with them, so they're gonna make me a bigger artist

479
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: to go to another label. Right, I just said it.

480
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: You're saying, yeah, but there's a celebration of, you know,

481
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: the time that we've been together. You know, for them,

482
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: they're doing things that most of the time, they're doing

483
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: things that they've been taught. I'll just give you an

484
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: exact well I'm skipping around it so it sounds vague,

485
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: but it's a real example. So negotiation in his office.

486
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: It's just me and him in the office, and we

487
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: were we were a million apart on the number of

488
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: you know that I was going to buy this album

489
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: back from and I had said, um man, we've had

490
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: a great career together. We've made a lot of money,

491
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of fun. You know, I'm not

492
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: gonna fight you over a million dollars. And he said,

493
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I'll fight you. Now listen, now, let's think about this.

494
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how I was. I was I don't know,

495
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: late thirties maybe, and he was maybe about seventy nine eighty.

496
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: Like I I could literally have killed him in the

497
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: office before his assistant got in the office, like with

498
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: my hands, bare hands. But here it is he thought

499
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: that he can fight. He would fight me in the office.

500
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: And it's not because he was he'd really like me.

501
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was. It was anawice and that

502
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: this is the business and this is the way it

503
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: was taught to him. So this is how he operated.

504
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: See you talk, you're talking to a nigga. To understand

505
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: what he's saying, right, you're dealing with long right what

506
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: he's speaking to right now, he's speaking to a nigga

507
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: being stuck in the matrix and shout out, shout out.

508
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: I just started watching the matrix. You understand me. I

509
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: have never seen it. I'm not a movie dude. I'm

510
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm my outside guy. So it's a lot of movies

511
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: I've never seen. Right, So um, starting to be able

512
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: to do that, you know what I'm saying. So again,

513
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: jay Z speaking about a nigga that's that's stuck in

514
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: the matrix. They stuck looking at numbers and and this

515
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: and that and budgets and projections and this and that.

516
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: Like they stuck. They don't even have feelings, they don't

517
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: even have emotions, taed to nothing but the results. If

518
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: they gotta listen boy them, do you understand these CEOs

519
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: would kill themselves. That's a trigger warning for people who

520
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: that's a very crazy topic, right, But the CEOs purposely

521
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: transition in many cases to save the company, to save

522
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: the money, to make sure that the people get the insurance,

523
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: and the folks is stuck in the matrix, doll, just

524
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: the fact of going broke. I remember when the crash

525
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: happened in two thousand and seven. The crash happened in

526
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, there was a lot of CEOs

527
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: from major companies just went going ahead and taking piers

528
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: and their family would come home and find them people

529
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: deceased just because their company went bankrupt. They didn't even

530
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: trust the ability, right, And that's what they do in

531
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: the matrix, because they're not the artist. The artist is

532
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: the ability. Just picture that your ability count on somebody else. Everything,

533
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: all the money count on them. It's a hell of

534
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: a situation to be in. So them business dudes just

535
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: stuck in the matrix bro looking at numbers. They don't

536
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: give a damn if you've been with them twenty five years.

537
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: I tell them my old lady all the time. Yo.

538
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: Them people at your job, I love them, it's cool,

539
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: But a lot of them people ain't Joe people, my nigga.

540
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it. If they fire you today. In

541
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: two weeks, they're forget you even exists outside of whatever

542
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: failures and mistakes you made around here, right outside of

543
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: bringing you up when they in the meeting saying, yo,

544
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: the phones are working really good. Then yeah, because we

545
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: used to say the phones didn't work good, but we

546
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: knew what was You know, they just bring you up

547
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: about negative things. Outside of that, you will be a

548
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: you wouldn't need like you did. What I'm saying so

549
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: in business, in job, in corporate America, all it just

550
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: removes all feeling, all emotion come or missing. You're dealing

551
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: with business numbers. How much did it make you know,

552
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: Jay come in there as a black dude like, oh yo, bro,

553
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: we've been doing this twenty years. We made a lot

554
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: of money. I ain't gonna fight you over a million dollars.

555
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Then the white dude kiki ki, I'll fight you over

556
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: a million ki ki ki. He laughing. He know he

557
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: ain't joking though. You gotta watch the people that laugh,

558
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: but they ain't joking. You know, these people are saying

559
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: things they mean and smiling about it. Right because he

560
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: basically telling you where you're staying with him? Man, Yeah,

561
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: we made a lot of money, but you're about to

562
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: head out the dough the businesses over. Ain't no need

563
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: for me to Our relationship is merely the business. I

564
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: just know how to make it sometimes feel like it's

565
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: a little different. I'm good at that. A lot of

566
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: them dudes probably psychologists or something. And today, I mean,

567
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: by the way, I like Doug. We're still cool at day.

568
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying, um, I'm not saying it's in

569
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: a in a way, this is what he's been taught.

570
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: So he's been taught to preserve the business for the

571
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: next generation of CEOs and chairmans. And that's the answer

572
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: to your question of why they wouldn't do it, because

573
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: in their mind, they've been taught to preserve the business

574
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: that works for them. And I just think we need

575
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: to evolve man job as a human. Everything else is evolved, right.

576
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: You know, a group chat can now be had. We're

577
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: having a group chat right now. We're having a you know,

578
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: when you used to click one person in and y'all

579
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: three three way, y'all talk to people, we're talking to

580
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: unlimited people because technology has evolved to that point, and

581
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: I think that the music business need to evolve to

582
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: that point. I'm sure there's language in your contract and

583
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people contract that was in Chuck Berry's contract.

584
00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: I love about versus is it reminds people um um

585
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, artists catalog. You know, if you see you

586
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: see Keith sweat up and you're like, man, that man

587
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: got a lot of joints and you know the iss league.

588
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: I really I like it from that um point of

589
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: view versus you know, who want to lost at the moment.

590
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: I love the idea of being able to, you know,

591
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: give people their flowers and allow people to be recognized

592
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: for what they've done, because you know, we all live,

593
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: we're all we're all prisoners of now right everything is now,

594
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: you know, you know we're we're listening in real time.

595
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: So you know, you create a song right now, you'd

596
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: be like, I'm the best person and I created this

597
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: and I created that. A lot of times I hear

598
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: artist saying they create things that I've seen thirty years

599
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: before and you know what I'm saying, and it's just like, yeah,

600
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it because you know, based

601
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: on the information that we have currently in the scope

602
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: that we're looking at things, you know, yeah, you think

603
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: that's the best but these isoli song. These guys was

604
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: playing songs that they made in the sixties. You guys

605
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: made songs in the sixties, seventies, eighties, dingies. So when

606
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: we when we're saying all time greatest groups, they're not included.

607
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: But shit, you listen to some of the writing that

608
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: Ronald Iily and those boys was doing. Please listen to

609
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: right after we get off this, Like all right, So

610
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: now we're just skipping to a part of Twitter spaces

611
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: with Alicia Keys and jay Z. So what's been happening

612
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: is is jay Z, like he does, He's putting a

613
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: lot of good game down. He's telling dudes about business,

614
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: telling dudes about a yo, same kind of thing that

615
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: I say, Yo, music business need to update. Yo, y'all

616
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: better pay attention, eyes open, head up, chee and I

617
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: let's get it, you know what I'm saying. So he

618
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: just in that putting the game down, you know what

619
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that doing it in a way. Well, it's impactful.

620
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: The thing I like about jay and I think that

621
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: are coming with age, even with somebody like me, because

622
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: because I would say that I'm rather calm when I communicate,

623
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm laid back sometimes I get a little passionate, and

624
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: for podcast's sake, I have to be disruptive from my approach.

625
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: So sometimes you will see me throw some theatrics on

626
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: top of it to get the message going in a

627
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: way that I needed to be gone. But outside of that,

628
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: to be able to be composed and trust the knowledge

629
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: that you have in your brain, right, I know my

630
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: family knows me to be able to do that. Sometimes

631
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't just simply spawn with somebody mentally, you know,

632
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: to where my people had to tell me. Now I'll

633
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: take care of it because I just want to, Hey, yo,

634
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: tell me why you say that? Man? What was that about?

635
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: Why would it be that much? If this that? You know?

636
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: And I'm just mentally spawned and just staying composed as

637
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm communicating because I recognize the knowledge, I recognize them

638
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: the value. I recognize the value in being able to communicate. Right.

639
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: I always had knew that and right, and so that's

640
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: why it's up there podcast. I'm about to branch that

641
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: out spitting that off, right, And I gotta get some

642
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: people that that's close to me, get get them up

643
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: to date on some game, and get him in them

644
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: schools and talking to the kids and people about just

645
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: merely communication, just that period, because again you don't even know,

646
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: you don't even know how to get the job, like

647
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: because you don't know how to interview, you don't know

648
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: how to talk with somebody to ask you a question

649
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: you don't know, right, So it's about knowing how to

650
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: present what it is that you want to say. Man.

651
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: And I think you know, jay Z is one of

652
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: the he's a master in that, and he's and he's

653
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: clearing his direction. I think every question that he's being

654
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: asked it runs through like chambers in his mind, like ownership, equity,

655
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: that how much money, value, integrity, like certain things. It

656
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: goes through it. And because his all of his answers

657
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: are circled around that. And I think not only that,

658
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: it is probably because that he knows a lot of

659
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: people are watching him. A lot of business people like myself,

660
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: like other podcasters in music, people in music are watching him,

661
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: listening to his every word. A lot of young people

662
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: and a lot of older people. They take whatever he say.

663
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: He can kind of he kind of got the Elon

664
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: Musk effect on our people. You know how Elon can

665
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: say something kind of move the stock market. He kind

666
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: of got that same effect on our people. So um,

667
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: like I say, he wanted the best to do it.

668
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: But again, we got to revisit how we look at everything.

669
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: But let's listen as he gets into the comparison of

670
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: Beyonce and Michael Jackson. I get Egypt into kids who

671
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: grew up in his face. And Michael Jackson was so

672
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: good because he was around his brothers, you know, singing

673
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: and dancing and he was seven years old, right, so

674
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: of course Beyonce is going to be you know, at

675
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: that level. And to me, and it's my personal opinion,

676
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson never he had motown um twenty five where

677
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: he did the moon Ball and that was amazing. That

678
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: was an amazing moment. But you know, find me a

679
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: concert that's coach Ella. That was is culturally um relevant

680
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: and technically um um thrilling and thrilling is just a

681
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: word because I didn't want to say another way, but

682
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, see master communicator like myself. But

683
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: think about that. So he's comparing Michael Jackson to Beyonce,

684
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: and right now in real time, it's a very hard

685
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: conversation to hey, number one because I'll use jay Z's argument, Right,

686
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: we were dealing with right now, you know, and Jay

687
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: just spoke to how these things were speaking like a

688
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: Ronald Osley. These songs were written in the sixties and

689
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: the seventies and right now you can cut them on

690
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: and people are still right they wrote. Listen to the

691
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: time that it was written in. Right. So first you

692
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: gotta deal with that for you deal with and then

693
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with the longevity of it, right, the

694
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: effects of it. You gotta deal with all that before

695
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: you even deal with the sales and all of that

696
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: other shit. So he's talking about Michael Jackson and he's

697
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: looking at it from a performance standpoint, and his question is, Hey,

698
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: tell me something Michael Jackson did like Beyonce did at Coachella,

699
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: and he basically hidden you with an our wight like Beyonce.

700
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Is that far away from Michael? Now for me, I can't. Again,

701
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't want all the Beyonce people at me or

702
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: all the Michael Jackson lovers at me. So we just

703
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: heard the do the podcast work right and just had

704
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: a conversation. But he says, go get me something that's

705
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: like Coachella. Um, and again, I'm gonna just let that

706
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: point sit there. That I spoke about that. He spoke

707
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: about right about these things happening in the time frame

708
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: that they happened, then the longevity of them, the impact

709
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: of them. Michael Jackson literally had people fainting, right. I

710
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: think Beyonce has a high level of stardom as well,

711
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: like a super high level, like they gonna meet the

712
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: queens and I'll let you know. So it's it's a

713
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: it's a hell of a conversation, right, But for the

714
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: sake of the argument, I can't say either way because

715
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with right now, like what Jay said, So

716
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave that at that. That's the Yeah. I

717
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: just got two more questions m for y'allum, one for me,

718
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: and then you know, I just want to get the

719
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: floor real quick to um after that to my partner Kosa,

720
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: who helped me put this together and do all the

721
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: research and come up with this, because he came up

722
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: with a brilliant question and I was like, where, I

723
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: can't ask that like that. That gotta come from you. Um.

724
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: But on whole yea favorite versus so far, I know

725
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: you'd be tooth that. You gotta be tuth it. Yeah,

726
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: I've caught I've caught a couple of verses. I think

727
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: that um, yeah, yeah, it's it's tough for me to

728
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: pick a favorite versus what I what I love, I

729
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: will say this, it's you know what I love about

730
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: versus is it reminds people um of um you know

731
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: artist catalog. You know if you see you see Keith

732
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: sweat up in and he're like, man, that man got

733
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: a lot of joints, and you know, I league, I

734
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: really I like it from that um point of view

735
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: versus you know who on the laws at the moment.

736
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: I love the idea of being able to, you know,

737
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: give people their flowers and allow people to be recognized

738
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: for what they've done, because you know, we all live,

739
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: we all we're all prisoners of now right everything is now,

740
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: you know, you know we're listening in real time. So

741
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, you create a song right now, you'd be like,

742
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm the best person, and I created this, and I

743
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: created that. A lot of times I hear all the

744
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: saying they create things that I've seen thirty years before,

745
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, and it's just like, yeah,

746
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it because you know, based

747
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: on the information that we have currently in the scope

748
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: that we're looking at things. You know, yeah, you think

749
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: that's the best. But these ISLI song These guys just

750
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: playing songs that they made in the sixties. You guys

751
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: made songs in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties. So when

752
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: we when we're saying all time greatest groups, they're not included.

753
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: But shit, you listen to some of the writing that

754
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Ronald Ivy and those boys were doing. Please listen to

755
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: right after we get off this, like, just go, just

756
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: scroll down. The first five songs on their catalog is

757
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: best writing you ever heard. You know, Stevie Wonder one

758
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: of the greatest writers of all times. You know, when

759
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about that, his name may not come up

760
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: because it's not of the time right now. And that's

761
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: what I love about us. I know that's not the

762
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: answer that people wanting. I want to hit. I love

763
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: when Jada Kiss was spitting them who Shot and even

764
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: that you think about that, that who freestyle was so old,

765
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: but I mean old and relatively, but people really thought

766
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: that was a new freestyle that he did it that night.

767
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: But with dip step, that's just you know, that's just yeah,

768
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: because people need to be reminded all the time. And

769
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: that's just you know, when we live in the now

770
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: and when people remind you how great they are, because

771
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: because before that, you would think Jada Kiss, I don't

772
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: know if he's been considered one of the greatest performers

773
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: of all time, you know, I don't know. I'm not

774
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: sure he's known for his performance, but he reminded you

775
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: that performance ain't singing and dancing and jumping around all

776
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: the time. Sometimes it's just the way you command the

777
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: stage that I would say, that's one of the best

778
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: performances of the year, right. I think I think we

779
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: all agree that that's what the best performances of the year,

780
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: but we don't. We wouldn't necessarily say Jada Kiss is

781
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: a great performer, um, And it just reminds you of

782
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: the greatness of folks. So I love to see him

783
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: get his flowers of and see how ron wisely reminded

784
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: people of how great he was. And you know, even

785
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: John Tay Austin you look at him like man, he

786
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: wrote that, and he wrote like you just think he

787
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: had a chance versus Neo. Neo got to sing to

788
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: the lapsed but day like Neo at one time was

789
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: controlling Pope Radio. There was no one on the planet

790
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: that could touch his pen period. And I know that's

791
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: another controversial statement, but at one point in time, Neo,

792
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: every single joint he wrote was going number one, to Mario,

793
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: to Rihanna joint, to his own chance, to Brittany, you know, irreplaceable.

794
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: Anything that man was pinning was given some real think

795
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: John take stood a chance. And then you realize like, oh,

796
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: it's not about number one records, Like he just put

797
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: on a Chris Brown joint. It's on in popping and

798
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh, that's that joint all right, you know,

799
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: like you could have played old Boy, Old Boys a

800
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: smash and we got it. We gotta recognize it as

801
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: a smash. But when Jada kiss the freestyle, it was like,

802
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to beat that. But you wouldn't

803
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: say that coming in. You wouldn't say that coming into

804
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: the battle or the person or whatever you're calling it, right,

805
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: you wouldn't say that coming into it. Yo, yo yo.

806
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: Welcome back to It's Up their podcast. I am your

807
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: active and attractive host for those tune in in listening.

808
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: We just had to redo the intro simply because we

809
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: lost the video portion of that first part before the break,

810
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: so kind of reiterate some of the things that I

811
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: think I may have spoke about. Again, I operate with

812
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: no notes. But if you're looking at the video version,

813
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: shout out to you because you are. You are on

814
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: the Patreon, which means you are real support of mind.

815
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: You can really call yourself a support of mine versus

816
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: a viewer of mind. We like to distinguish the difference

817
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: between the two. It's a certain approach needed to support

818
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: someone like me, and the approach is just a tad

819
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: bit different than your traditional podcast or YouTube video or

820
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: anything like that. I'm building a multimillion dollar infrastructure, so

821
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: I need a different level of support. So shout out

822
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: to y'all that's on my Patreon. Man, I really really

823
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: really hold that near and dear to my heart. You

824
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, meaning you support my business structure

825
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: and you respect my business acumens. So shout out to

826
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: y'all those of you that's listening. I got a lot

827
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: of love for y'all too. You know, my job is

828
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: to let you know how to support me, which is

829
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: to get over to the Patreon. You get you one

830
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: on one call with me. You get first look at

831
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: members only merch, You get discounsel on murch, you get

832
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: discounts on live events. You get to be in the

833
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: what we call the pre production room, maybe sending some

834
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: topics video clips, kind to be a part of the

835
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: whole process. That's what this is about. That's that's to

836
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: being the cockpit tool, I'm sorry, being a cockpit tier

837
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: where you kind of are supporting in a way where

838
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: we want to bring you closer to how things actually

839
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: run at It's up their podcast or shout out to Y'allum,

840
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier Draco the Ruler being killed in

841
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: La r and p to him again. LA politics seem

842
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: to be in this array right now. It seems to

843
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: be a place where things are kind of going to

844
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: ride or seem to be. It seems to be a

845
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: lot of violence out there, a lot of break ins.

846
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: And it's the thing about the end of the year

847
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: that I always tell my family, something about the end

848
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: of the year says shut down, you know what I'm saying.

849
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: And Um, I always knew that, and I always feel

850
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: that a lot of the things that happened seem to

851
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: happen in that time. So again, just staying alert, stand

852
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: staying active, and staying dangerous. Man, it got to be priority.

853
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for us in our culture. Um, it's almost like

854
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: a prize to kill one of our own, you know. Um,

855
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: it's almost it's almost viewed as a badge of honor

856
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: to have killed a man, to have shoulder man about

857
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: playing with you. It's unfortunate reality, but it is the

858
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: reality that we live in. Seeing that on the other

859
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: side of that, you got being killed. With that being said,

860
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: you got approach that situation with a certain level of seriousness.

861
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: You know. Again, I spoke about Draco the ruler, and

862
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: I spoke about gang politics and how I always kind

863
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: of knew like a lot of people took the gang

864
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: thing and they took it from La. You know. I

865
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: made a point earlier while I said that the gang

866
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: thing kind of took off in a weird way because

867
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: not because it ain't like the Crypts and the Bloods

868
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: had had a spokesman that they sent to all least

869
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: cities to make sure that the language was right and

870
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: the tutelage was right, and they fall up under the

871
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: right law. And this that and the third. The problem

872
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: with the gang culture is that it was. It was

873
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: it penetrated the ghetto through the movies, so they grabbed

874
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: hold to the movies. And then what they do is

875
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: they just project what they think what it is they

876
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: think they see man. And I always viewed that as

877
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: being a very big problem because again it was always

878
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: things missing, and there's things that you I don't tell

879
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: you if I don't write it down UM step by step,

880
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, because I think you consider these things, but

881
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: you can't consider what you don't know. So we were

882
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: kind of in the middle. After that, we went to

883
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: UM speaking about Jay him and Alicia Keys did Twitter spaces.

884
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back into that conversation UM with with

885
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: those two people. And then you realize like, oh, it's

886
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: not about number one records, Like he just put on

887
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: the Chris Brown join. It's on in popping and everybody

888
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's that joint, right, you know, like

889
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: you could have played old Boy, Old Boys a smash

890
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: and we gotta we gotta recognize it as a smash.

891
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: But when Jada kiss the freestyle, it was like, it's

892
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to beat that. But you wouldn't say

893
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: that coming in. You wouldn't say that coming into the

894
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: battle or the person or whatever you're calling it, you

895
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that coming into it. Um, I think that

896
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: was a long answer to stay that. I just love

897
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: that people get to remind people of you know how

898
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: up their greatness, Alicia, When when are you gonna be

899
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: able to give hold his flowers on a versus stage?

900
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: Un span on that stage with me. I need this.

901
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: I ain't a lie, no respect, everyone's amazing. And then

902
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: what they've done. No one you stay on that stage.

903
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: And I'm just telling you guys that real. It's not

904
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: a shot, it's not a chance in hell that anyone

905
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: could stay on that stage. And before I don't know

906
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: how long, there's two hours, about two hours, right, I

907
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: gotta stand in front of the Grammy Family Freestyle Live.

908
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: You know, no one's ever even seen me perform that,

909
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: Like you gotta stand in front of that. That ain't

910
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna be. Man. Let's let's move on from Get Back

911
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: to the Keys album. So for those of you just

912
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: now tapping in, it's jay Z basically um saying that

913
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: no one can stand on stage with him in a

914
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: versus Battle number one. I find that interesting. Jay Z.

915
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: Now let me say this jay Z is a hell

916
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: of a guy. His catalog it's probably one of the

917
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: best music catalogs in music history. And that's a very

918
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: heavy statement. Um versus, you will have a hard time

919
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: in front of jay Z as a certain presence about him.

920
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: You did what I'm saying. But I do think there's

921
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: some names that can be throwing that hat. That's number one,

922
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: number two. A lot of people say this is in

923
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: response to Future basically saying on that song Eminem's with

924
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: a little baby saying that, hey in the streets, I'm

925
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: bigging and jigging. For me, I'm from the South, so

926
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: it's I gotta be clear my communication with that, right.

927
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm always critical of the information that's

928
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: left out, never critical of the people. I'm critical of

929
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: the information. I get kind of perturbed when I don't

930
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: hear Jay Prince, when I don't hear bird Man, when

931
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't hear masterp. So for me, everything I look at,

932
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: I look at it to make sure that the representation

933
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: ain't off. I understand that the history books are written

934
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: by some people that may not consider some people. That's

935
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: where I'm from, right. I don't know what that's about

936
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: or why that's the case, right. I'm not anti anyone.

937
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm pro South. Right, So again you'll hear people say

938
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: things like that, that's what that was a When I

939
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: heard Jay say something like that, I said, that's a

940
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: perfect way to explain the way that I look at

941
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: and how I handle the information and the historical view

942
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: of the game. Right. I'm not anti any other coast.

943
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm not anti any rapper. I'm not anti any establishment,

944
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: any click, any group, any particular individual. I'm just pro South.

945
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure that because my little boys, my family,

946
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: we come from the South. So I need the little

947
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: babies in the South to know, Yeah, now you ain't

948
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: gotta be from X, Y and Z to be an

949
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: executive or CEO. You can grow up right here in Tennessee.

950
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: You can come right from a line and be the

951
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: next biggest executive. Right. So it's more about them and

952
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: less about the rappers. And I think that the people

953
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: that's in the positions, once they hit that message, they'll

954
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: understand that. I gotta be disruptive in my communication about that,

955
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: right only because nobody's gonna listen when I come out

956
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: and I just say, hey, hey, you guys, y'all forgetting

957
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: about Birdman pe the South podcasting in the South? Music

958
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: run the South? How to South podcasting? The sole lower level.

959
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: You're only gonna mention a South podcast when it's signed

960
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: to one of your friends, Right. That ain't even about

961
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: that podcast. That's more about the person they signed to, right.

962
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: And And you know, for me, I can see through that.

963
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: For when jay Z say you know no one can

964
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: stand on stage with him? I say, what about Kanye?

965
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: What about Dre? What about did it? What about? And

966
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: we're talking catalogs or something, right, So we're looking at

967
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: just catalogs. And I know he's saying, well, yeah, we're

968
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: dealing with catalogs. But if you put somebody up like

969
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: Jermaine dupri with the hell of a catalog, he don't

970
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: got the style or the aura I got, you know

971
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I think he's weighing it like that.

972
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: But a lot of people, again, let me get back

973
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: to what I was saying, a lot of people saying

974
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: that him saying these things are in response to Future

975
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: saying that on that record. Then a big bank came

976
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: out and tweeted, I'm gonna promise y'all something that everybody

977
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: in the Linna thank Future behold in the verses, then

978
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: that goes viral. Future retweets it, it goes viral. Right.

979
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: So what we're dealing with and what my question is

980
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: to the people who are unaware of the politics, is

981
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do ignore our accomplishments. See I

982
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: think Jay no, I think Jay got enough sense to know.

983
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody just bowing down and nobody that ain't how

984
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: this work. We got a lot of respect for the

985
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: business side of it. Because when we strip it down

986
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: and boil it all way down and drill it all

987
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: way down to straight music, nigga, can't nobody to see

988
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: bird Man, and that's from the South. Can't nobody in

989
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: the game see bird Man when we strip it all down,

990
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: because when you look at it, everybody else, what they've done,

991
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: it's been outside of music, respectfully, So let's look at

992
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: it for the music thing. And who did wasn't in

993
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: music because when we did with verses in music talking

994
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: about music, a lot of people even through Wayne in there,

995
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: Wayne is a hard person to deal with. I think

996
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: the music the contrast of Jay and Wayne may not

997
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: be a good contrast, you know, but when we strip

998
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: it all the way down to nothing but music. Birdman

999
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: has probably surpassed everybody in music, but we don't hear

1000
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: his name in the top three. You tell me what

1001
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: that's about. I'll wait. I've been waiting. I start to

1002
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: see people now try to reiterate a lot of my

1003
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: talking points. But the problem with that is is the

1004
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: people gonna know you didn't make the grave, and the

1005
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: grave it come from me. So when they get a

1006
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: little piecea they got to come back and get some more.

1007
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: That's just how the game works. I don't really necessarily

1008
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people that can out wrap

1009
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: jay Z, but I'm looking past that. I'm looking I'm

1010
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: looking at the game for exactly what it's worth. Again,

1011
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: when I look at Jay, when I look at hole Hold,

1012
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: is that nigga in retrospect. That's why I know he

1013
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: can't feel away about what future got going on or

1014
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: what some of these dudes just really rearing up about

1015
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: fifty to sixty seventy million dollars at a time with

1016
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: the label. He can't feel away about that. And I

1017
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: know he don't because he's a boss. He's a businessman, right,

1018
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: so he knows what's going on. Don't he know what

1019
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: you gotta feel like way before you become the champion,

1020
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: you gotta train like the champion. He know, way before

1021
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: you become the champion, you got to be eating and

1022
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: getting your meal prep down like the champion. He know

1023
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: that because when we look at Hole in retrospect, Nigga,

1024
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: he was number three or four popping that number one shit.

1025
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: So he knows what it's like to be viewed like

1026
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: this but feel like that. He comes from that we're

1027
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: talking about. When Pocket Bigger was alive, Jay wasn't number one.

1028
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: It was a pocket a Bigger. Then you get the

1029
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: Then it depends on who you asks. Pocketing Bigger would

1030
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: would circulate for one and two. Then depending on who

1031
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: you ask, you might get a Jay z a Nas.

1032
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. You start to get these

1033
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: other names, but not for one seconds. He number one.

1034
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: When he was popping that number one shit, he felt

1035
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: like number one. So when future do it, you can't

1036
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: tell me that's a problem, can't you? Or is it

1037
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: just a problem because he from the South or somebody

1038
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: helped me understand. I can't wait to have an intelligent

1039
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: conversation with someone that represents the other side of this argument. Again,

1040
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm not critical to people. I'm critical the information. Everybody

1041
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: knows that I love this game. This game is what

1042
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: I got a lot of love for, So I'm just

1043
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: looking at it for what it is worth. Somebody tell

1044
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: me what's the difference between future saying hey the people

1045
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: in a line of thing, you can be a jigger

1046
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: in inner verses. What's the difference between that and jigger

1047
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: saying that Beyonce is bigger than Michael Jackson. At some

1048
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: point you gotta compare and contrast with the greats. And

1049
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: if it's me talking about me, you expect me to

1050
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: take a back seat to who, about what and when

1051
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: and why what? I it's important for me to champion myself.

1052
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: Who else gonna do it? I'll leave people depending on me.

1053
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: I'll leave families out unfit and people out of chain.

1054
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: What you're telling me I can't pop it? Is it

1055
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: because of what somebody helped me understand? Go back to

1056
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: the records, and I know this ain't coming from jay Z.

1057
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: That's why I got to speak to my coach of

1058
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: my people, because someone along the lines we get it confused.

1059
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: We think it's cool for one person to pop it

1060
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: and it ain't cool for the other people to pop it.

1061
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: Somebody got to help me understand and see when we

1062
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: have a real conversation. And that's that's why it's important

1063
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: for you know people to help blow up. It's up

1064
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: the podcast for Revote to be instrumental for you know, Charlemagne,

1065
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: and be instrumental for you know nor Rijoe Budden, Wallow,

1066
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: every big, for everybody to be instrumental in what I

1067
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: am doing, because it's important for me and people like

1068
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, Jay or Kanye and all these Drake and

1069
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: these people able to sit down only because the way

1070
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: that we look at it right. And for me, you

1071
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: got to help me understand why nobody asks Jay about

1072
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: what bird Man was saying. So tycoon in the game,

1073
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: y'all got Jay for all that time because ain't nobody

1074
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: from the South. It ain't even registering when when bird

1075
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: main't go on Big Facts and say, yo, I'm one

1076
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: of the biggest ones out. You know what I did

1077
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: with the music, the same thing I've been saying the

1078
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: whole time. Dog bird Man, pee them Jay print the folks.

1079
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: Man't come on man, what we're doing then? For we're

1080
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: going platinum in Texas Man when it was y'all had

1081
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: the industry locked up in New York beating this wise

1082
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: then folk, we're going platinum down that they figure something

1083
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: out with some slow music, were you? So I'm saying

1084
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: respect the game. Bird Man go on Big Facts and

1085
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: he say, Yo Man, come up and we tek me

1086
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: my music. Gotta made a billion dollars in this game.

1087
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: And I and nobody, all the pioneers be quiet about it.

1088
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: All the big boy music papers, they didn't say nothing.

1089
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,479
Speaker 1: But then when they go sit down, what they budd

1090
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: is they don't even register bird Man saying that they

1091
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: gotta come see one ug yo man. So well, what

1092
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: do you say the bird Man this? Or what's your

1093
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: feelings on bird Man? What's your feelings on such as SuDS?

1094
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: You know some of these people ja Prince the people

1095
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: or he may not talk about Prince, but bird Man, Pete,

1096
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: what's your feelings on these kind of things? Like you know,

1097
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: bird Man has been influential in the game. You know,

1098
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: talk to me a little bit about that boy, or

1099
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: however you craft the question. But for some reason, this

1100
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: is how you put the ship in the history books.

1101
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: It's bird This is how media works for y'all that

1102
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: don't understand. Right, this is how media works. Or jay Z,

1103
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Birdman comes sit down with Big Facts pokt.

1104
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: This is how media is supposed to work and how

1105
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: it usually works. Right, Birdman comes sit down on Big

1106
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: Facts podcast. Bird Man says that he's bigger than anybody

1107
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: in the music business. He's sold more, He's did more

1108
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: this than the third Right, all the big dogs in

1109
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: the music business. The next time they sit down somewhere,

1110
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: they'll be asked that question. Flip it if jay Z

1111
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: says no one in the game is bigger than me,

1112
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: I've sold more records than everybody, X Y and Z.

1113
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: When Kanye goes on Drink Champs, they're asking him. Jay

1114
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: said this on Breakfast Club. What did you think about that?

1115
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: That's how you cement that argument in third and give

1116
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: that conversation legs. Bird Man said that and they shut

1117
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: up about it. Number one is the truth. You're dealing

1118
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: with the facts and the information, right, It's the truth.

1119
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: That's number one. But number two, for some reason, things

1120
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: don't register. And this ain't a beef. This ain't a beef.

1121
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: This is a pulling of a cold tail. Because we

1122
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: pulled to be a community, right, my people from everywhere. No,

1123
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: I love my people from everywhere. My energy is pure,

1124
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: but my understanding is supreme. And sometimes those things clash

1125
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: with each other. My ability to understand the circumstances and

1126
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: the inability to had it, the inability not to say nothing,

1127
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: the inability not to be able to chuck away what

1128
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: I know to be the case right now, you know,

1129
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: sit on it. I can't do it. So it's like

1130
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: I try to place things you know in perspective head

1131
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: on before we move on from versus we definitely if

1132
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: my husband has flowered for being innovator that he is

1133
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: and being able to actually give a platform and so

1134
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: many people that get ignored, gods him and exactly what

1135
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: you said, because you get to be put back on

1136
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: to the greatness of people, which is the theme of

1137
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: what we're talking about here, is like really really recognizing

1138
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: people's special specialness, you know what I mean, that they've

1139
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: been able to contribute for all of us to enjoy,

1140
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: to learn from, the sample from, to create new things from.

1141
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: So definitely, definitely definitely um first of all, um. So

1142
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: it was just a good conversation. Number one, Jay z

1143
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: is podcasting that's podcasting to me, putting supreme game down. Um. Again,

1144
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: his disability to just speak is king and and like

1145
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: that's why he's a rap. That's why he was a

1146
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: hell of a wrapper all that time. It still is

1147
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: because he can do that. But again, you know, um,

1148
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 1: just for those just listening and just for the sake

1149
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: of understanding, you know holds that nigga, he's the goat.

1150
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: You know, we just got to rewind the situation again

1151
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know, I make all

1152
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 1: my money sitting down talking, so I know what I'm

1153
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: talking about, or somebody think I know when I'm talking

1154
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: about one or the other. Either way, it's working right.

1155
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: So when we deal with m jay Z again, we're

1156
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: dealing with it. When you when you rewind and look back,

1157
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: he was always three and foward. He was able to

1158
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: pop his ship. But again, if you just look at

1159
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: all music now, so it's a difference between who's better

1160
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: learned and who's more learned, right, meaning it's a difference

1161
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: between who got the most information and who did the

1162
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: most with the information. You understand. But when we look

1163
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 1: at straight music, bird Man is the head not to tell.

1164
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: But when we spend outside of music, we're dealing with

1165
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: businessman now. So we're looking at a Jay and all

1166
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: these niggas, you know, go get them a big dog status,

1167
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: and we gotta respect that, you understand, And I think

1168
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: it's a certain level of understanding. But what about Dre,

1169
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: what about Kanye? You know? What about I don't know.

1170
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: Some people are putting on and then I've seen a

1171
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: Wayne Drake. Then I've seen a lot of people put

1172
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: DM mix some people would have put specially back in

1173
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: the day when we talk bigger than them. But again, man, y'all,

1174
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: just y'all, just always remember, like Loon Loon, look at

1175
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: the game for what it's worth. I always try to U,

1176
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, do more than just take the head last

1177
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: for the headlines, man. And I think that's what gives

1178
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: me a disruptive approach in the marketplace, man. And it's

1179
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: and it seems to be working, but shout out ja, man.

1180
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: But you gotta know, people gonna pop, man, People gonna

1181
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: pop it. You understand, people are gonna pop it. And

1182
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people feel away. I guess

1183
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: about me because I'm gonna pop. I'm gonna poppet man.

1184
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: And I put a lot of work in I do

1185
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: a lot of things that a lot of people can't do. Man.

1186
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: So for me, man, I'm anna poppet. And if you

1187
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: don't like it, that's your business, and you're gonna have

1188
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: to do something about that. A live with it, you

1189
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And and that's just how we go. Man.

1190
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: Let's see if he's said anything else again. I always

1191
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 1: told y'all Versus had a hell of a business model.

1192
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: It's like they was able to do something with the trads,

1193
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, and we don't and respectfully trash, you know.

1194
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: I just use metaphors that way analogous what I'm saying.

1195
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: It's things that dormant not working. Someone's like going down

1196
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: in the basement and being able to reuse that old

1197
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: furniture and reupholster it, you know, redoing. Then it's able

1198
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: to be used again because they're taking old wreckers and

1199
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: repackaging them and getting them back out there. It's a

1200
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: powerful thing, dude. Streams is going up. I think a

1201
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: lot of the rappers and singers are asking about real

1202
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: value after it, because it's really just what's called a

1203
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: spike in this business. But I think the rapper singers

1204
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: and people own verses got to do a better job

1205
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: at putting that in conjunction with something right and continuing

1206
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: that um. In my opinion, y'all hit me up and

1207
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: I'll show you how to structure it. I got ten

1208
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: ideas right now. They can probably make another six figures

1209
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 1: every time someone's called four verses, and a lot of

1210
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: times I get that game out, But I'm uninterested in

1211
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: doing that in two and twenty two. So shout out

1212
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: to ten length. I'm Swiss anty, Yeah, shout out to

1213
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: Swiss and Timberland Man, beautiful thing. I want to take

1214
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: it to a post I just seen online for those

1215
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: of you following me at fo G four on the

1216
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 1: score looning, you've seen what I posted about it, and

1217
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: I'll read it. The post is from Wallow to six seven.

1218
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: Shout out Wallow, me and I work for game, Gilly says.

1219
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: Tell my fellow podcasters, let's continue to turn it up

1220
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: and knock doors down for those who are coming behind us.

1221
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: If you just started a podcast, we are not your competitors.

1222
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: I know everyone above, and I salute them for pushing

1223
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: the game forward. There's gonna be some historic moves made

1224
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: with the podcast Space in twenty twenty two to all

1225
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: the beginners, you can do it. Don't stop or worry

1226
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: about any what anyone else is doing, Stay consistent and

1227
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: be creative. The podcast he has are all the smoke.

1228
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: Earn Your Leisure Shout out to my brothers, Earn Your

1229
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: Leisure Nori and djf and Drink Champs, Joe buddon Podcast,

1230
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: Rory and Mall, Big Bank, Big Facts, DJ Screen, Baby

1231
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: Jay Shout out to my family, Big Bank, Baby Jay,

1232
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: Off the Record with DJ Academics, Carefully Reckless with just Hilarious.

1233
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: Behind the Baller with Ben Baller eighty five South Show

1234
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: would be the last one. I instantly was tagged in

1235
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: this posting. The competitive in me has a unique outlook

1236
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: when these kind of things happen. What seems to be

1237
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: happening is What seems to be happening is is that

1238
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: the South is having trouble resignating with the people that's

1239
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: making these kind of posts right and not saying the

1240
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: South isn't has a presence. Understand, I communicate for a living,

1241
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: make all my money talking, so I know exactly what

1242
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Hit me and hit me well. The South

1243
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: has a problem resignating with the people that makes these lists. Oftentimes,

1244
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: you can't make this list if you're not signed to

1245
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: someone that's a friend of someone that's making the list.

1246
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: That's what it feels like right outside of that, And

1247
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: we're not talking about taking this up that podcasts off

1248
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: the list. Let's look at I am athlete shout out

1249
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: to my brother Brandon Marshall, how he don't make that,

1250
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 1: and not saying that this ain't about Willow, because Willow

1251
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: is doing this best at trying to stop the divide.

1252
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: He can feel it. He can feel it when dudes

1253
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: go to posting the numbers, niggas go to posting a

1254
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: little shit, he can feel it. Oh, they're getting in

1255
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: that competitive mold. And he trying to keep the family together.

1256
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: So I know what he's his attempt there. Again, I'm

1257
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: never critical of my brothers. I'm critical or the information.

1258
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at it from a perspective of saying,

1259
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: let's let's look at the list right. It's a beautiful list.

1260
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: And my brothers from the South there, my brothers from

1261
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: New York are there. Then folks ain't did nothing but

1262
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: embrace me, nothing but embrace me one and I got

1263
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: a lot of respect and love for a lot of

1264
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: people on this list, and it's gonna stay that way.

1265
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna remain that way. It's locked that way, right.

1266
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: But what leaves me feeling perturbed. Number one is that

1267
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: I instantly think about the quality I put out outside

1268
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: of the five thousand dollar cameras, outside of the attention

1269
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: to detail in the paintings that people don't know how

1270
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: much costs behind me, those things are just things I

1271
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: ain't even talking about. I'm merely talking about the number

1272
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: of hours, the number of how Nigga really doing this right?

1273
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: And then the analogies I'm putting down the game, I'm

1274
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: putting down the interviews. I'm going to get how maneuvering

1275
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: around the game. There's yet to ben people that meet

1276
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: me that hasn't been affected by me in some kind

1277
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: of way. So they go to burning, they go to

1278
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: burning in the inside of me as a competitive guy, right,

1279
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: just coming from being just a competitive weather to Nigga.

1280
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: That just that that's the first outlook. Then I get

1281
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: the thing, and land ain't even thinking about quality. Number

1282
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: one Loan Door Podcast by a Selvice, a lot of podcast.

1283
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: Two three people guests this that in the third and

1284
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm about to roll out guests, so you be well,

1285
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: we're about to roll out the guests thing, right, So

1286
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: it's coming. But it's just when I think about the

1287
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 1: workout putting in, it's disappointing that the posts, the finger

1288
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: that posted be on the post, is that out of reach,

1289
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: out of touch? And I'm right down the road independent.

1290
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody independent that they talk about. Everybody's signing to

1291
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: somebody they're cool with. And for me, I gotta think,

1292
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: like Loan, is this the game? But I was telling

1293
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: Arnia Leads, I've been pleasantly surprised how the game is

1294
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: welcomed me. I've been able to walk in rooms right

1295
01:14:55,439 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: and they've been uninterested and even anything outside of I

1296
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: want to hear more from you. I want to figure

1297
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: out a way to support you. And I think I've

1298
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: been blessed in that way. And I'm interested in the

1299
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 1: people because all these dudes is my people. I gotta

1300
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: I studied the game. I know a lot about all

1301
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: these guys. Studied the game because I had to come

1302
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: from a place where ain't no plug ups. I gotta

1303
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: be the plug. So in order to be the plug,

1304
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: you gotta be the source. You gotta go get the

1305
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: ground while I went our way to the bottom, and

1306
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, put it all together myself. I had to

1307
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: do it that way. You understand, Number one is understanding

1308
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: where you're from in position. You can't get out of

1309
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: something you don't know you in. You know what I'm saying.

1310
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: You can't get out of something you don't know you in.

1311
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: You can't wake up if you don't know you sleep.

1312
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So somebody got to know. Yo,

1313
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: you gotta listen to what I'm putting down. You gotta

1314
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: really download what I'm upload It's the only way to

1315
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: stay abreast. Don't the real nigga's environment. But for me,

1316
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: I think it's always fucked up to see light. These

1317
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: podcast dudes, right, and I know they got friends they

1318
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: left off the list. It ain't but a certain amount

1319
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 1: of even list you can make. You remember the last

1320
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,480
Speaker 1: list that would David did up to think twenty podcasts

1321
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: and the South presence was Slim the Nun and South

1322
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: Run Wrapping rapp is fueling hip hop podcasting. If we're

1323
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: being honest, do we want to have a convo or

1324
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: we want to act like? Do we want to chill.

1325
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: Should I just chill or what because we can have

1326
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: a convo and tell the truth. South runs hip hop.

1327
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: Hip hop podcasting's interview based all the number one, two, three,

1328
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: and folds most of them. I'll say that most hip

1329
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: hop podcasts are interview based, which is ran by hip hop,

1330
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: which is ran by the South. But when they make

1331
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: the podcast list, the South list don't look like the

1332
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: list don't look like it got no Southern podcasts on it.

1333
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: Balloon putting game down. So I'm resonating with the Joe

1334
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: Buddon fans and the little bullshit fans. That's why they

1335
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: got a problem. And I understand that the business instructure right,

1336
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: and there's only a certain amount of time. I even

1337
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: see eighty five South show here, shout out to them.

1338
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: Them dudes got a whole they ball games. They got

1339
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: a different type hustle. They hustle is king. They didn't

1340
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: changed the two. And it's a slow transition. And I

1341
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. I respect the hustle. So keen

1342
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: Chinna eighty five. I said, Oh, I see what they did.

1343
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 1: They went Chinna eighty five. I see what they're doing. Powerful.

1344
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: They're looking for a big check down the road. They're

1345
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: playing a long game and that's why I'm trying to

1346
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: tell y'all about this space. But again, Loon is coming

1347
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 1: this year at the end, by the end of twenty

1348
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: twenty two, will be on out of the list going

1349
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: multime in twenty twenty two. And that's for show. But

1350
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 1: in podcasting, you know, with me putting so much work

1351
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: in and being a being in a privileged position that

1352
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 1: I mean, because I wheeled my way past the doubters, right,

1353
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: I was able to figure out just a tad bit

1354
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: of what's going on and able to skip lines here

1355
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,879
Speaker 1: and there with my ability to communicate in my business acumen.

1356
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: And it's been a blessing and a pleasure to work

1357
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 1: with some of the biggest names in the game. I

1358
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: even seen Stack five shout out to the home and

1359
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: Stack five going to them and say, Yo, as long

1360
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: as we keep supporting us, you know, we're gonna be

1361
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: all right. And I went under this post and I

1362
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: didn't expect him to answer back, you know, but I

1363
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: wan't under then say yo, when y'all say support us

1364
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: and y'all be in the industry like y'all be signed,

1365
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: what do that be mean? And I'm just asking for

1366
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 1: the street niggas, you know what I mean? What do

1367
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: that mean when they be saying we support us? Like,

1368
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: we don't really have a line to support each other, right,

1369
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: we can support y'all, right, and it's cool. And some

1370
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: of us are will our way past the ll shit

1371
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: Like me, no matter who, we're gonna wiel our way

1372
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 1: past it. We're gonna we're getting some money out of this.

1373
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: Ain't no way around it, right, So period, that's a

1374
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: complete sentence. We're getting some money out of this. That's

1375
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: the end of the no matter what. Right, So that's

1376
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: that's number one. But it's still be like, when y'all

1377
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: say we support us, what does that look like for

1378
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 1: the niggas that's on the other side of us? What

1379
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: makes us us? Basically? Because me, I'm about us when

1380
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: I say, yo, we gotta communicate this with each other. Yo,

1381
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: when you get to this level, go right there, They're

1382
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna get you right there. That's gonna get you right there.

1383
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: That's gonna get you in there. Because if we really

1384
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: want to see who the best, let's all really, let's

1385
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: all really really really you know what I mean, and

1386
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: not even who the best? If we all want to

1387
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: see who's valuable in the space. Right, Let's give every

1388
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: about a fast shot some kind of way. Let's make

1389
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 1: sure the checks and balances are there, but let's have

1390
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 1: a fast shot in place, some kind of way, right,

1391
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm about us. When I think about podcasting, I

1392
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: don't just you hit me mentioned podcasting home on interview,

1393
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: I any interview I do. I mentioned Joe Buden. I

1394
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: mentioned Charlemaine as the Gold. I mentioned combat Jack, Chris Monroe.

1395
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: I mentioned Willie I'm sorry Willow and Gilly. I mentioned Noriega.

1396
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: I mentioned all of our people that's on my mind

1397
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: at the time, right, I'm mentioned Pistol Pete. I even

1398
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: mentioned shows. I mentioned a lot of these people, eighty

1399
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: five South. I mentioned all these people depending on you

1400
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: know where I'm in and what point I'm making. The

1401
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: point is I consider all these people, right, because we're

1402
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: a community when we look at this podcast in space.

1403
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: But I'm just about us when we think about the South,

1404
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: I'm pro South. I'm pro po podcasting. I'm pro nigga.

1405
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm pro real nigga. Right. And when I say real nigga,

1406
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't mean violence. A lot of y'all get that

1407
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: confused too when I say black person, nigga though black

1408
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: person meaning I care more about Tyler Perry White House

1409
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: than the White House in Washington, like I'm one of them.

1410
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: I was bragging about the Tyler Perry White House to

1411
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: folk man. You know Tyler Perry down there, he got

1412
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: the whole slab down there, Dad. I care more about

1413
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: that than telling them about what Washington, DC looked like.

1414
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: Because when we talk about supporting us, what do us

1415
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: look like? It's us all the rich niggas that's already

1416
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: rich and financially secure outside of the illegal activity, or

1417
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: it's us really the talented niggas that really do this

1418
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: talking thing, this, really do this podcasting thing. We're gonna

1419
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: make su y'all us go get something? Is that us?

1420
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: And I think it's a hard question, and for mental

1421
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: magiccy maybe can come off as a defensive. But if

1422
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: I offend you with questioning whether or not we consider

1423
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: all of us, then maybe we shouldn't be communicating anyway.

1424
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's been a lot of people to make

1425
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: this space what it is. I always tell y'all, good

1426
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: swimmers drowned. You know, when we even look at the

1427
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: space that Charlemagne was in text don't came in and

1428
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: stretched that a little more, which let Joe Budden creep

1429
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: in nor recreeping niggas creep in behind what text did. Like,

1430
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: It's just things like that. But he was a good swimm.

1431
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: He just drowned. He was you know some things. Sometimes

1432
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: things happened that you know, life calls and takes you

1433
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: out of the game. But you can't go through that

1434
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: and not consider what that wore. When I'm sensitive about

1435
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: about this thing. I put a lot of work in this,

1436
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of time, and I do this

1437
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: by myself, right, so means a lot to me not

1438
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: to make a list from somebody that's support that that

1439
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: has their hand on the post or the game, right, um,

1440
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: And I want my people to know, you know, because

1441
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: I gotta be loyal to my audience. All at least

1442
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: had four hundred people tagged me, at least four hundred

1443
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: people tagging me about that, So I gotta be lawyer

1444
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: to my people and let them know. Yeah, I am

1445
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: disappointed that that that it's up. The podcast didn't make

1446
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: whatever list it's going around, not wallow lists, not hip

1447
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: hop DX list or whoever lists it's up that podcast

1448
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: need to be making the list period. When it comes

1449
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: to podcasting number one, number two, even if I don't

1450
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: make it, the South need to have have a bigger

1451
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: presence on those lists. When I'm dealing with the business

1452
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: and I'm knowing that hip hop music is rammed by

1453
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: the South, podcasting is driven by rapper interviews. There's no

1454
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 1: way the South should be in a position of where

1455
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: we only show up when we you know, nah, y'all

1456
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: gotta let you know so again, and we're gonna keep

1457
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: putting the game down. Twenty twenty two is a big year.

1458
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna multi media. Everybody that's on the list, everybody

1459
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: that's a part of the movement, they know what's going on.

1460
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: And we're gonna sit down with all our brothers and

1461
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: had these conversations which will make for great content with

1462
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: me and Wallow and Gillis sit down and I say, yo,

1463
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: y'all left, man, come on, man, y'all, you know what's

1464
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: up with the South thing? What's up with the podcast?

1465
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: Or I speak to Joe Budding, Yo, man, you're just

1466
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: about the line of thing ord and were able to

1467
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: talk through those things and see what that disconnect is,

1468
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, and they make for great content. You know

1469
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's what and that's what it's

1470
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: about at the end of the day. But it's up there.

1471
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: Podcast has to make the list and that's and that's

1472
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: a complete center time going on, you missus and stuck

1473
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: out f in these trenches. I'm just trying to get

1474
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: a million for the coming get me out of hate

1475
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: off in my city. I can't fuck with him. It's

1476
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: just me and the niggas I could up with. If

1477
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm lying and I'm dying, I cap up in my

1478
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: wrapping nigga, slip my nigga, slide outside. It's fucked around

1479
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: from you can't fuck around. Better watch a step for

1480
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: you be in that ground fucking long. Look, it's only

1481
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: one way at you gotta go and get it. I

1482
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: think this is so expensive cast the whole break. I

1483
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: don't get back in and tell you what you're take

1484
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: a label to chat for her sign, telling what a label,

1485
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: shout out and shout out to little shows you where

1486
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: the game is conk men, I'm dumbing tired all you

1487
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: send him, but that I will never irk. I didn't

1488
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: till he's trying to get Kanye and tend to get

1489
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: him being tired of going on. He mentioned trying to

1490
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: lead the trenches farm stuff. I feend assisted what I

1491
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: know that Mama told her about the nights of times

1492
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: careful shit, get we get on my side of time.

1493
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: I lost a piece of the footage, so I'm just

1494
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: kind of scatter braining, just you know, moving around topics.

1495
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: I really don't know what was kept what was not.

1496
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the full audio out, but I think

1497
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: I may have missed a few of the moments in

1498
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 1: the podcast when I said some things that I wasn't

1499
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: able to capture own video. I think I left off

1500
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: speaking about a post from Willow about podcasting, and I

1501
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: expressed my sentiments of podcasting needing a bigger self presence.

1502
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: You know, we we run music. I'm confused at all

1503
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: the rappers and the politics is so far up because

1504
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: the South run music. When up North room music, we

1505
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: didn't see any interviews for what it is worth down

1506
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: in the South. And again, I'm not anti anywhere. I'm

1507
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: just pro South. And I'm also pro truth. I'm pro information, right,

1508
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 1: so I speak truth to power. I got a lot

1509
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: of love in these places, right, they know me they

1510
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: know my feeling, they know my vibe, they know I'm

1511
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: a real one. So I'm just more so critique in

1512
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: the game. And I got the ability to do that. See,

1513
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people speak on things they don't have

1514
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: the ability to speak on. You haven't really being in

1515
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: a position to have enough wait attached to your name

1516
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: to be saying some of those things. But once you

1517
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: navigated in a place or with a certain level of information,

1518
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 1: I think that you are warranted in your communication. But

1519
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: as far as creators, you know, like I say, I

1520
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: tend to get frustrated and it tends to make me

1521
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: just a competitor in me. It just fires up their

1522
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: competitive spirit. You know. Next thing I'm gonna speak about today,

1523
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: far get out of here. I just got a couple

1524
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: of more things I want to hit on. It's Kevin

1525
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: Samuel's Kevin Samuels and Fresh and Fit. For those of

1526
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 1: you that don't know, Fresh and Fit is the podcast

1527
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: where academics had the gun pouring on them or whatever

1528
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: that situation was. I'm starting to see, and let me

1529
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: speak about this. I'm starting to see podcast and start

1530
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: to do like fake moments like water watering down the

1531
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: space right dudes are getting into fake arguments. People are

1532
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: getting into fake situations where they're leaving and and it's

1533
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: beef and shit is happening and art and hollering and

1534
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: screaming and like this situation, guns are being poured out.

1535
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: We don't know now it seems that that was a

1536
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: real situation. But I am starting to see podcast and

1537
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: try to adopt some of this WWE approach, you know,

1538
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: And it's concerning to me because again, I don't want

1539
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: us to lose the authenticity. Some of these conversations are

1540
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: so powerful and so needed that if you are a creator,

1541
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 1: because again, a creator is gonna look at the game

1542
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: how a man looks at a woman, right, So we're

1543
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna have a certain level of love and interests and

1544
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: ability to want to fix and change it or or

1545
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: at least taylor make it to what we see fit right.

1546
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: So it's about knowing how to curate these things right.

1547
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: You don't have to create these fake moments when there's

1548
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,560
Speaker 1: a pool of talent. If you know the post of

1549
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: the industry and the game, you put this person with

1550
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,799
Speaker 1: that person, that conversation will lead to a great, great content.

1551
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Number one for whoever is in it. On a business aspect.

1552
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: But number two, a lot of information will be projected

1553
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: out of that, out of that interview. And so that's

1554
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: why I come in and I have my finger on

1555
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: the post. And then I'm a student of this, so

1556
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: I kind of can feel it, right, I know where

1557
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: to put the two people together. So I don't want

1558
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: us to lose the authenticity and start to create these

1559
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: fake moments, even though WWE ran for a long time

1560
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: that way, controlling the narrative and the story. But again,

1561
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: I just find it interesting that if you're not signed,

1562
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: you're not mentioned. You know, it's the same way they

1563
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: locked us out of other music industry, right, because they

1564
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: pit us against each other. Right, So we think because

1565
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: he signed the Universal, they're gonna make him look a

1566
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,799
Speaker 1: certain way and have a certain level of marketing dollars

1567
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: that go into his image. Right. So what happens is

1568
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: the creator that's maybe in a at a long term

1569
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: position than this guy that looks flashy, right, he tends

1570
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 1: to want to change his approach to business because it

1571
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 1: doesn't feel the same as that guy. I think we're

1572
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: coming into a place now where people are starting to

1573
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 1: wake up and notice and realize, like you gotta be

1574
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: on top of your business, you know what I'm saying.

1575
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 1: And this really is a long game, you know. I

1576
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: heard a Sugar and we're gonna get into the Sugar

1577
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: Night interview with a million dollars worth a game. I

1578
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: heard him say, you know, it's important that you don't

1579
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: do business with somebody that's just funding something and then

1580
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: they want to sell you back your own stuff, like

1581
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 1: the ownership piece of it. And I always tell people, man,

1582
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: it's about information and knowing what ownership even looks like.

1583
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: What does that look like? Right, Because it's easy to

1584
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 1: say for people that operate inside those constructs, But you

1585
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: gotta understand they're grabbing people from outside of the school

1586
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: and that you guys are in. That's why I try

1587
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: to go in and now, you know, I try to

1588
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,640
Speaker 1: go over here in the industry, get some information, but

1589
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: then talk to some niggas out to ghetto, you know,

1590
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: and talk to some doctors and some scientists and some

1591
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: lawyers and this and there. I'm trying to talk to

1592
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: people who got interesting conversation, but you gotta understand what

1593
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: they're picking from. Right. A lot of you guys kicking

1594
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,719
Speaker 1: the game where you think you you are teaching people,

1595
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: and maybe you are. It's not reaching our way down

1596
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: to where you really come from, right, because as you

1597
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: went up on your journey, your communication has changed, right,

1598
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: And so it ostracizes people who don't understand the language

1599
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 1: that you're speaking. Like when you say I PO, when

1600
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: you say CPA, when you say you know, hey, this

1601
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: company's going public, or you know, these kinds of things,

1602
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: they really don't understand. Hey, if you to put fat

1603
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: and see now, I see people starting to break it down, like, hey,

1604
01:33:57,960 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: if you to put a thousand dollars in there now,

1605
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: then by today you would have made such and such

1606
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: amount of money. And they still don't really know what

1607
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: that means, because that means that what you bought for

1608
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 1: this amount on this date is now worth this amount

1609
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,839
Speaker 1: on this date. Right, So nothing's really changed in regards

1610
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 1: to what you've done to make that happen. The market

1611
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: is dictated the gain of the loss there. But do

1612
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,640
Speaker 1: you pull that money out, do you keep that money in?

1613
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: Can you borrow against that money? What's the penalty of that?

1614
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 1: Like there's things on top of that, right, information that's

1615
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: just considered to be known. And I think sometimes we

1616
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: gotta as a community because we act as encyclopedias, you know,

1617
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 1: the rappers, that's the rappers are today, the jay Z's

1618
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 1: of yesterday, and the people of tomorrow. We act as

1619
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: encyclopedias for the people that come after us, not just

1620
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: by talking like we with each other, but really putting

1621
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,879
Speaker 1: some information out and having those tough conversations, maybe calling

1622
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: dudes out on things. Things that's misguiding the people. Right

1623
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:05,719
Speaker 1: in regards to hey man, they're saying that we should

1624
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: go through here confined out. They own the company with

1625
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: wood Woo, and it's still a label type situation, but

1626
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: they running down all our people through there because and see,

1627
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear testimony, testimony from real people, right.

1628
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: I understand marketing out even if when you see the president,

1629
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: like when Obama was trying to get Hilliary to win,

1630
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: you see them go grab Ja Beyonce, every big rapper

1631
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 1: that has leverage or has some sort of outreach you know,

1632
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 1: can affect some people. They grabbed them and put them

1633
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: next to him because the impact of those people. But

1634
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: I disagree with that approach wholeheartedly. Actually, I think that

1635
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: when it's authentic, right, when they can say, yo, we

1636
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: saw you take this due right here from nothing and

1637
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: make him a million now in front of our face.

1638
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: He didn't pop up a millionaire and just saying Yo,

1639
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm a meeting man, I do this, this, this, and

1640
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: this right. We saw y'all help people go from nothing

1641
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: to something, and the authenticity next to that, I think

1642
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 1: cannot be purchased. Right. I understand marketing will lead you

1643
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 1: down a way to say, you know what, maybe I

1644
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: should stand next to all the hot wrappers or do

1645
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 1: you know those kind of things, man, But I think

1646
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: that organically, man like, if is it really helping people?

1647
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Is it really helping people? Like it's people really getting

1648
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 1: something from it? And a lot of people proof is

1649
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: in the pudding, but there's some that's blending in with

1650
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 1: the ones. This proof is in the pudding. And I

1651
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: think some of those hard conversations are going to have

1652
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: to happen in the culture because even if you affect

1653
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 1: thirty forty thousand people with your platform, but but you're

1654
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: ill advised in your communication or you're just kind of

1655
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: tricking the people into spending money with you, I think

1656
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,560
Speaker 1: we gotta make sure to kind of address that, you

1657
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean as a whole um. But you

1658
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: heard me earlier. You know when Wallow. When you see

1659
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: Wallow make a post like that, right, deal, podcasts, I'm

1660
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: not your competitors. This that in the third what it

1661
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: says to me. And I could be wrong, but I

1662
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: got a podcast that I need to be disruptive, and

1663
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak about it. But when I see that,

1664
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: as I said, the first thing I think about it is, oh,

1665
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: there's some rumblants behind the scenes. Not with some of

1666
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,560
Speaker 1: the people he poked met, Yeah, I would say with

1667
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 1: some of the people he posted. But Wallow playing that

1668
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: penitentiary game. He playing that keep the piece game right,

1669
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: because he's like, Yo, why y'all starting to compete like this?

1670
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: Ain't that ain't what we on you know what I'm saying.

1671
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: So he trying to make it where it ain't no issue.

1672
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 1: But it ain't no issue long as you know certain

1673
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: people winning. But listen, I'm in the podcast, and I

1674
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 1: know the value of podcasts, and I know what's going

1675
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 1: on in the game. I just feel as though we

1676
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: got to spread this out. You know, we're gonna have

1677
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: to spread this out. And I believe I'll be influential

1678
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: in and and I can't wait to have conversations with

1679
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: some of these guys, some of the tough conversations, right,

1680
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: some of those conversations where we gotta get down to

1681
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: the particulars of things and hopefully teach you know what

1682
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But Kevin Samuels and Fresh and Fit is

1683
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: having an issue. Both are big in this space. I

1684
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: think Kevin Samuels now has representation by one of these

1685
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: big agencies or something. But Fresh and Fit is a

1686
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 1: independent podcast doing pretty well. They get eight thousand people watching.

1687
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 1: They have a lot of guests, I think with COVID

1688
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 1: coming back around, you know, because they usually have ten

1689
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: people in there and they just going, going, going, and

1690
01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, people like to watch it. It's almost like

1691
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: a reality show. Um, I think it's it's pretty cool.

1692
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: I'll probably make an appearance that at some point, unless

1693
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: it's some kind of podcasts beef that I don't know about. Right,

1694
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: Kevin Samuels, I got business with him on the back

1695
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 1: channel that I'm trying to put together. Of course, some

1696
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: of my political connections knew about that. Kevin Samuel's and

1697
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: Fresh and Fit have both been on the same shows, right,

1698
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: So Kevin has came over the Fresh and Fit and

1699
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 1: talked about the only fans girls and things like that.

1700
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: Seems to me Kevin Samuels has accused Fresh and Fit

1701
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 1: of regurgitating a lot of his talking points, kind of

1702
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 1: taking his content, adding a very small twist to it

1703
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 1: and reading putting it back out and wants to beef

1704
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: his own if I'm interpreting this right. If I'm not,

1705
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:55,719
Speaker 1: will come back, you know, on another party and someone

1706
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: give me the information. But according to what I'm knowing

1707
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 1: or seeing or reading, that's what it looks like. But

1708
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: it's a lot of copyright strikes, and Kevin Samuels is

1709
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 1: about to speak on it. Let's listen. I am, well,

1710
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm mobilizing, so driving, but I think this is an

1711
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: important topic to discuss. Um. Yeah, I've heard a little

1712
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 1: bit of the input on many side, and I've also

1713
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: seen some of them. I can see it on both sides.

1714
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 1: And the issue I see with fair use is one

1715
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:48,919
Speaker 1: most people don't know what fair use is. There's elements

1716
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 1: of fair use, and like you said, is it transformative

1717
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: in nature? And I've often heard people say, well, you know,

1718
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: Kevin Samuels does the same thing. I want to make

1719
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: this unequivvocally cleared. There is a multimillion dollar industry of

1720
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: responding to Kevin Sanders, and I don't strike it. I've

1721
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 1: had my entire life put under a microscope, and I

1722
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 1: don't strike it. The only I've even put up I've

1723
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 1: even put up parameters and guidelines of people who would

1724
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 1: like to use my content with our permission. That doesn't

1725
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 1: mean they're after you. It's just one thing that I

1726
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 1: noticed is that when people who are when I considered

1727
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: to be serious content creators, of full time content creators,

1728
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,759
Speaker 1: we often give each other a courtesy request or courtesy

1729
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: heads up, That's what I noticed. But then more casual

1730
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 1: content creators, people who just are running channels for their

1731
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: own personal benefit. That's why it tends to become tricky.

1732
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 1: And the one thing that I tend to find egregious

1733
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: is when someone simply clicks the OS or clicks their

1734
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 1: streaming software and simply mirrage or content in live streams. Yes,

1735
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't allow that, because that is that is no

1736
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: different than taking a copy of a movie. Okay, so

1737
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: so well, what I'm understanding is is that Kevin Samuels

1738
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 1: end up having some sort of issue with Fresh and

1739
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: Fit called the mount on it, I think, and they

1740
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: started to strike his channel saying that he's using their content,

1741
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: or it may not be Kevin Samue's, may have been

1742
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: somebody else. Listen, listen. I'm all over the place with this,

1743
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 1: but I think it's a good conversation about fair use,

1744
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: about understanding how to navigate a podcasting or content creating

1745
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 1: or just having a YouTube channel where you want to

1746
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: make some extra money, those things, and knowing how to

1747
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 1: navigate those things. Again, you can't bump into the information.

1748
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 1: You have to go somewhat is very specific in particular

1749
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: to get the information. And so um, now that we

1750
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: have these kind of platforms like it's up there podcast,

1751
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: we got to make sure to put one foot in

1752
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: front of the other and move forward with the information.

1753
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 1: Playing playing playing your favorite artists music and just streaming it.

1754
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: That's not acceptable. That's no transformative nature. Neither is you're

1755
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: sitting there doing the same thing and saying, oh that's dope,

1756
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, Oh that's great. That's not transformative in nature.

1757
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 1: So I want to be clear because people keep trying to,

1758
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, put me into parts of this situation. If

1759
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:42,759
Speaker 1: there is something that's um that's questionable, is when especially

1760
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 1: like I content Instagram content that's I don't even have

1761
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 1: a chance to upload myself. Someone wants to mirror it

1762
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 1: and upload it. And see people just think they can

1763
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: do what they want with people's content. But that's not this,

1764
01:43:56,479 --> 01:44:00,040
Speaker 1: That is not this. This from what I understand, and

1765
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: is uh the silence, criticism, the silence. Uh you want

1766
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 1: to use my content? Uh, and my responses correct. I'm

1767
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:18,759
Speaker 1: not okay with that, um, because you know, my personal

1768
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: opinion is if you're gonna put something out there on

1769
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: the on the platform, it's open for public consumption. Now

1770
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: how they use it there? I think you know what

1771
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: like the like the like the judge, look at me,

1772
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,480
Speaker 1: look at how much of the content was the transformative

1773
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 1: in nature? What did you do? If those elements are met,

1774
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: then it's fair use. This isn't coming in. It's fair use.

1775
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 1: This is coming in. Is we don't like what people

1776
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: are saying, and this is that And that's that's a

1777
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 1: dangerous game, um, because even if you're even if you're

1778
01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: right on the particular element of one or two p ideals,

1779
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 1: when when it's done like this, you can tend to

1780
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 1: be wrong on the bigger partners, Like when you what

1781
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 1: I understand, lots of creators woke up with several several

1782
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 1: different strikes. Um. I think there's just a better way

1783
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 1: of approaching it. Um. But well, but I think it's

1784
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: going to be interesting because even though I have my

1785
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 1: personal opinions on it, I think there's going to be uh. Um,

1786
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: there will be. There will be a discussion about you

1787
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: about this greater in YouTube. But at the end of

1788
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 1: the day, um, trying to get anybody's channel taken down, uh,

1789
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 1: simply because you don't like what they're saying. And my

1790
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 1: opinion is kind of productive, which is why I just

1791
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:53,560
Speaker 1: completely stay away from all beefs yea and I and

1792
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 1: I will say personally, if anybody in men's content has

1793
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: if anybody has a reason to want to take people

1794
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: down and strike people down and say crazy things and

1795
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: shut stuff down, and I think I think I would

1796
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 1: have a good case for it. But but it's it's bigger,

1797
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: It's bigger than this. So um, at the end of

1798
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 1: the day, I think it's going to do more harm

1799
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: than good because you should be able to discuss things

1800
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. You know, we don't make peace with

1801
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 1: our friends, we make peace with our enemies. Or people

1802
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: we disagree with. So I think it will be better

1803
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 1: off overall if people could sit down and talk behind

1804
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: the scenes. And I don't know many people who would

1805
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 1: not be willing to talk. But once it goes public

1806
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: like this, then it makes people draw sides. Yes, there

1807
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 1: is fair use, and then there's retaliation and censorship. That's

1808
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 1: that's the question. Is this really a fair use case

1809
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 1: or is this censorship and retaliation? And I don't care

1810
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 1: what side of the camp you come down, who's content

1811
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: you watch, if you're if you're a fan of the

1812
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 1: particular content creators who react, or if you're a particular

1813
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 1: fan of the originator, I don't think. I don't think

1814
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: any of us benefit from retaliation and censorship. So what's happening.

1815
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 1: What's happening is is that they're striking someone that is

1816
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: critical of the things that they're saying. Right, So someone

1817
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: is evidently um pointing out certain things and trying to

1818
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 1: prove certain things about them, and so they're striking them

1819
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 1: for um. So basically they're there un so they're striking

1820
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: them right, they're miscategorizing UM, they're miscategorizing the issue at hand,

1821
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: So they're using the system, they're using the system. That's

1822
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 1: what's happening. A release from the guccis he wrote a screenplay.

1823
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,719
Speaker 1: Really Scott picked it up up. Alfacino's in this, Lady

1824
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Gaga's in this. This thing is doing numbers. You know,

1825
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 1: if the Gucci family came back and said, even though

1826
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 1: they don't have a release, they said, you know what,

1827
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: we didn't like the way were depicted in it. But

1828
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: they let alone because they're fucking Gucci, right. They don't

1829
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: want to get tied up in this. And that's kind

1830
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 1: of the thing. It's like, there's been plenty of things

1831
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 1: that if someone can see that you don't like, it's

1832
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: it's a bigger picture. You gotta look at this long term.

1833
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 1: And I want to say this too to the people

1834
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: who make content who is primarily reaction or that kind

1835
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: of thing. Um, you need to understand fair use a

1836
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,520
Speaker 1: lot because anytime you use anyone's content right, wrong, or indifferent,

1837
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 1: you run that potential risk. But it really shouldn't rise

1838
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 1: to the level. That's why you said. I like what

1839
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 1: you said. It doesn't matter about good faith of this

1840
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 1: is that it comes down to the law. Right, did

1841
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 1: you transform it? Are the elements there and more? Off

1842
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the not you know, um, I just say, let most things,

1843
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: most things lead of the of the on any given

1844
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: one day, there are anyway no I hear you, I

1845
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 1: hear it's less than one less than one tenth or

1846
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: one percent of stuff that actually gets removed, and it's

1847
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,799
Speaker 1: only for the most egregious stuff. And that's really just mirroring.

1848
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone thinks that's fair. You still, that's

1849
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,560
Speaker 1: just straight up piracy. Yeah. So mirroring for those of

1850
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 1: you that's unaware, is where someone to take like my

1851
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: podcasts and go to stream in it and have what

1852
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 1: they call a watch party on Facebook or something like that.

1853
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,759
Speaker 1: That's stilling of my content, and it cuts the legs

1854
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: off my content. You start out with a thousand in

1855
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 1: January and a hundred thousand congratulations, but at some point

1856
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 1: you start to it starts to be significant. It's not

1857
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: just it's not just leakage. It becomes a real concern.

1858
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 1: And that's why I often and see y'all got Kevin Samuels.

1859
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Y'all got Kevin Samuel's messed up from from the jump.

1860
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Samuers is business. He running the business, y'all getting

1861
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 1: on that talking and key keying kay Kaine telling you

1862
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: being but he making six seven figures a year all

1863
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: of that. You see what I'm saying the same thing

1864
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 1: with Loan, y'all think Loan kicking and screaming about what's

1865
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: going on in the culture. Loan is preparing a business.

1866
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm putting a cake in of and I know exactly

1867
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 1: what it is I'm doing. Um And Kevin Samuels has

1868
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 1: been able to provide himself a luxury lifestyle off this,

1869
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, So you gotta make sure to understand that

1870
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: I've run streams. I've run business to where I in

1871
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 1: my stream at midnight and then the best parts of

1872
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 1: my stuff is up on somebody's channel at seven o'clock

1873
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 1: in the morning. I'm like, wait a minute, So you

1874
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 1: just came over here and you took you took the

1875
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,560
Speaker 1: drumstick and ran with it. I don't even get to

1876
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 1: get off my own content. And if it's not try

1877
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 1: if it's transformative and fair use they make him do it,

1878
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 1: but it does become my case. This is if you're

1879
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 1: full time at this. This is why I'm going to

1880
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 1: sign on the people who are full time content creating,

1881
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: people like oh Shay, Duke Jackson and even guys over

1882
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:16,480
Speaker 1: down down in Miami, when you have significant investment in infrastructure,

1883
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 1: people planning personnel, flights, booking, such and so forth, and

1884
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 1: then someone can just take your product your product and

1885
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 1: simply posted on their channel and say oh this is

1886
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: dope and get hundreds thousands of dollars views, such and

1887
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 1: so forth. You couldn't do that with Marble, you couldn't

1888
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: do it with you could not do it with a

1889
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:42,640
Speaker 1: recording artist. So I think, I mean, it will be

1890
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 1: good to where they with the content match system gets

1891
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,759
Speaker 1: to a point to where it can, you know, notice

1892
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 1: the difference. But it just I don't think it ever

1893
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 1: will get to that point because YouTube has so much content.

1894
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: But in the end, it is up to the person

1895
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: using the copyright tool to file a complaint to know

1896
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: that you are doing this and you are legally justified.

1897
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 1: You don't know that, then they don't. All this stuff

1898
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 1: is moot because when you start that process, you're saying

1899
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 1: that they've taken your stuff. You're saying you've reviewed all

1900
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 1: this other stuff. And like some of the things I've seen,

1901
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, you can be you can be

1902
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: in a bad way if you're using the system outside

1903
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 1: of the original purpose. So everybody needs to understand what

1904
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: that that what they're playing with because the men's this

1905
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:43,680
Speaker 1: men's content, as it were, it's growing. Um And But

1906
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: just like any other sector, you can't just go respond

1907
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:51,759
Speaker 1: to um Joe Rogan stuff. There's there's content creators on YouTube,

1908
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 1: Philip DeFranco, and you just uh uh even DJ bladd

1909
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 1: you just can't go take people's stuff just because you

1910
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 1: watch it. And I would, I would just say, just

1911
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: know the systems you're dealing with, regardless as to your

1912
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,759
Speaker 1: if this is full time, part time, or whatever, because

1913
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 1: everybody tends to want the same thing, a fair shot,

1914
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 1: a fair shake. So shut out to Kevin Samuels for that. Man,

1915
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 1: that was a lot of good game. Like I say, man,

1916
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 1: understand what you're getting yourself into. Man, Understand fair usage,

1917
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 1: Understand that um how to use the copyright to understand

1918
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: because it's people that are like me. I always tell y'all,

1919
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: my fight down isn't the audience thing because my audience

1920
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 1: is coming right. It's more so centralized in the audience.

1921
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: So I think I get seven hundred thousand of views

1922
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 1: a day on TikTok somewhere in the hundreds of thousands

1923
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:57,480
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Facebook. You know, my video was now exclusively

1924
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 1: only on Patreon, shameless plug get that to support my video.

1925
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: It's about centralizing my audience, right, meaning getting everybody in

1926
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: one place and then also training them of what support

1927
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 1: looks like. You know, when you hear him speak, you

1928
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 1: hear him speak about people building something that takes a

1929
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: very long time. Joe Rogan, you can't respond to him

1930
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 1: at all. Just for context on that, you cannot respond

1931
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: to Joe Rogan. Yeah, man, So you know that's just

1932
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: that's just part of my fight again, man, centralized the

1933
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 1: audience structure in the bid and making sure that we

1934
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: make millions of dollars off this. Man, A lot of

1935
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 1: people are digesting it, and y'all are on the journey

1936
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 1: man right now. If you're listening, I definitely need you again,

1937
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: go over to Patreon, support the video side of this,

1938
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 1: or support in any way that you can support, get

1939
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: some T shirts, whatever the case, excuse me, whatever the

1940
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 1: case may be. But we're going up now. This is

1941
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 1: funny right here. For those of you that may not know,

1942
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: there was a fight that happened in the middle of

1943
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 1: church that's been going viral and so we're gonna take

1944
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 1: a look at what happened, and we're gonna get the

1945
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: backstory from Pastor Kevin Adams. He's gonna explain to us

1946
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: what took place at his church and what made even

1947
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 1: that altercation take place. See, the church is one of

1948
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 1: the places where you don't expect certain things. But this

1949
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 1: new generation man, they're starting to remove themselves from them

1950
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 1: older traditions, and some of that is dangerous. If you

1951
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 1: ask me, you know, some of it is is warranted,

1952
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 1: but some of it is dangerous. I think we gotta

1953
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 1: be careful with what it is that we disrespect and

1954
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 1: how we do it. You know what I mean, Because

1955
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: you pay for what you do. You understand, you pay

1956
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 1: for what you do. You wreak what you say. It's

1957
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 1: an old saying, but let's let's take a look and

1958
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 1: see what happened. He saw his start in, you're right

1959
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 1: here one till get him. He yeah, yeah, yeah, let go,

1960
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. But big Boy wasn't gone. Yeah yeah, check

1961
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 1: big boy out come. Look big boy jump right up

1962
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: one too, Let get to it. And he and he

1963
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: went forward. Well look watch big boy, he hit big,

1964
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 1: he hit he hit big, big bubble one of the

1965
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 1: selfish blows out and never seen check it out. He

1966
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 1: saw his star in the east and he pulled it.

1967
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: He pulled a bit sleep. He pulled a bit sleep.

1968
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 1: You caught him jet like that. He pulled a winter bed. Man,

1969
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: come but look he pushed your lane. Look here, I

1970
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 1: come any any seat and we wait in the face.

1971
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: He pulled the winter bid. Boy. But and then white

1972
01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: watch your old school. Yeah yeah, watch school listen start

1973
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, I don't he think he God? Yeah

1974
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, dude, here think he God? You see that boy?

1975
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 1: Think he got that? Why I say about a lot

1976
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 1: of you paths you go to taking your job to Siri.

1977
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 1: Watch right here, boy, thank you God watches right here. Listen,

1978
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: stop and then tell me that don't sound like that

1979
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 1: pole to be in your head somewhere, you know, like

1980
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 1: God telling you. He thank you God. Man, I don't

1981
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: give a man. Y'all can't treat me man, boy, thank

1982
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 1: you God. Check him out now. And he don't even

1983
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 1: do it with no velocity. You know they always say

1984
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 1: when God talked to you, he just gonna be calm

1985
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 1: and just sun. You know this that and this, dude,

1986
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: thank you God. Watch it listen stop now, Marcus. He

1987
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 1: gonna tell a grown man now that I'm trying to

1988
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 1: tell you the past. Dude. I need to get him

1989
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 1: on the show, Thank you God, because you're gonna tell

1990
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 1: a dude that got the nuts if we ain't, you

1991
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 1: ain't talking to the same dude that just walked up

1992
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 1: and hit the man, is it? So you're telling me

1993
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 1: this dude walk into church, hit the man and you

1994
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 1: think you're gonna step over, and it's just tell him,

1995
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 1: hey stop now like and that's just gonna make him stop.

1996
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 1: That's why I say to get delusion or some time.

1997
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 1: And we got to be careful with how we're doing things, Marcus.

1998
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: And so shortly after that, pastor went on and you

1999
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he went on and got on

2000
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 1: down and explain what may have took place when they

2001
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 1: fight broke out in this church. And one part, I

2002
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 1: didn't even consider what if folks in Tennessee. I keep

2003
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 1: telling you about Tennessee. I'm on down here with that

2004
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 1: plan in Tennessee. Come on. I went to address the situation.

2005
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 1: A true word the Bible talks about in the Pheesian

2006
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 1: six that we roustling out against flesh and blood I

2007
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 1: was making us a statement in my sermon at eight

2008
01:58:56,720 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: o'clock that when you're getting ready to birth something, push

2009
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 1: something out that at the next service the word would

2010
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 1: be tested in us. A wonderful a wonderful young man

2011
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: that has grown up in our church. His mother I

2012
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 1: loved dearly, very close to my mother, like a sister

2013
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 1: to me. Miss Tiffany, her son Marcus, and a wonderful

2014
01:59:21,880 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 1: young man I think the world of him. Had a situation.

2015
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 1: I've already talked to Tiffany and we just got through talking.

2016
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 1: But had a situation and I wanted to get it

2017
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 1: straight where he just had some issues, some problems. Just

2018
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 1: left rehab, just left rehab. All of us go through stuff.

2019
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 1: Y'all know how to been through my stuff. We all

2020
01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:47,440
Speaker 1: been through stuff. So young man just got out of

2021
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 1: rehab and had some some situations going on. We're supposed

2022
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 1: to be going back into rehab and was down by

2023
01:59:56,600 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 1: the church today and for whatever reason, you know, comes

2024
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 1: into the church and up under the control of some

2025
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 1: other forces, up under the control or some other influences

2026
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 1: that he runs up on our pastor, my first assistant. Oh,

2027
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 1: he hit the pastor. Main dude run up and fat

2028
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 1: on the pastor Bain. I'm thinking, but I should have knew.

2029
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 1: Don't nobody to sit that close but the pastor and

2030
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 1: somebody that need help from the church. Only a couple

2031
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: of people sit there clothed. Grandmama them some people to

2032
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 1: need donation from the church. And the past is then

2033
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 1: the only people sit that clothe. That boy random and

2034
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: hit the past in the mouth, and you think you're

2035
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna just tell him, hey, stop robot cop type thing.

2036
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:53,560
Speaker 1: What he craved the pastor first assistant, Chris Sands, And

2037
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: so he swings on, sayings Chris in the middle of

2038
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 1: the ever I'm standing up to preach, and a lot

2039
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 1: of y'allen saw the video by now, and he just,

2040
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, just attacked him. And we know,

2041
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:15,480
Speaker 1: as the Bible says that this is as Tiffany said.

2042
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 1: His mother said to me so eloquently, that we roused

2043
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: not against flesh and blood, but its principalities, its powers,

2044
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 1: and spiritual wickedness in high places. And so there was

2045
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: this altercation, and as soon as young man got back

2046
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:35,400
Speaker 1: into fellowship Hall, he began to cry. It was so

2047
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:38,320
Speaker 1: sorry about what he did. It was almost like he

2048
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 1: didn't even know he was there, but the damage had

2049
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 1: already been done. And so we live in the world

2050
02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 1: of social media. Things go everywhere and people like what's

2051
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:53,480
Speaker 1: going on. I didn't had a hundred calls concerned people,

2052
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: people praying, not gossip, was not that kind of stuff.

2053
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 1: But really, I think God really true people, pastors and

2054
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 1: people like what's up. Everybody's okay, and so everybody's cool.

2055
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,880
Speaker 1: We're we're gonna see the young man through. He's going

2056
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 1: back and understanding the rehab and we're gonna walk with

2057
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:18,200
Speaker 1: him through that process. Talk the pastor sayings, you know,

2058
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 1: he's he's a real champ, and you know, like, man,

2059
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 1: look I hate that happened, and you know, I felt

2060
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:28,360
Speaker 1: terrible that had happened to him. And he's like, Pastor,

2061
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm all right. You know, I'm all right, and I'm okay.

2062
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 1: I want you to listen to what I'm saying tonight,

2063
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:39,360
Speaker 1: because God knows, I'm going through my share of So man,

2064
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 1: he's just uh again, man, crazy situation. Do run up

2065
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:45,960
Speaker 1: on him, hit him in church. I don't really hear

2066
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: from the pastor anything about other than the dude was

2067
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:56,080
Speaker 1: on drugs, anything about you know, how long the fight

2068
02:02:56,440 --> 02:02:59,240
Speaker 1: was was any police called or but you know, what

2069
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 1: would a circum stances surrounding and I think people wanted

2070
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 1: to know moving forward, how you handle that or you know,

2071
02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 1: just to things surrounding it. But I think he's kind

2072
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: of coming out saying what happened, but it's not really

2073
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:18,200
Speaker 1: telling me anything. Saints of OBC, an altercation like that

2074
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 1: broke out and we didn't have one member lead, didn't

2075
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 1: have one member, you know, act out of character. All

2076
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 1: the members start praying. All the men jumped up on

2077
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:33,120
Speaker 1: Q and went, you know, to contain the situation of

2078
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 1: the men of the church just jumped up. And I

2079
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:40,520
Speaker 1: was studying at the pulpit really spell bound, like how

2080
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 1: what do I do? Because my heart was going out

2081
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 1: for Marcus, my heart was going out for Chris. I

2082
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,120
Speaker 1: wanted to go back there and love on both of them.

2083
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: And next thing I know, I'm like, but here's the congregation.

2084
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 1: I got to take care of the congregation as a pastor.

2085
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:57,840
Speaker 1: I got to oversee them, and I looked around and

2086
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 1: almost brightness, tears of minds. The whole membership just moved

2087
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:07,400
Speaker 1: up and called themselves an auto call. I've never seen

2088
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 1: anything like it. I didn't hold an autocoll. I looked

2089
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: around and the saints that form a ring a prayering

2090
02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 1: around the pulpit, and it's like the Holy Spirit has

2091
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 1: led them all and they get around the pulpit and

2092
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 1: they're having their own alto call and that's them all right,

2093
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:32,400
Speaker 1: We're done with that. UM. I was thinking too, men

2094
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:37,920
Speaker 1: about you know, the game just rapped, Um, how the

2095
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:40,720
Speaker 1: chips have fallen, and how the South looks, what the

2096
02:04:40,760 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 1: South looks like, just in regards to rappers, exacts, things

2097
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:47,680
Speaker 1: like that. And I had a question and I want

2098
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 1: to present this question to the world again. It's up

2099
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:54,440
Speaker 1: the podcast with the conversation starters. We don't we don't

2100
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:58,960
Speaker 1: make a living with our content basically just reposting people

2101
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 1: content or you know, regurgitating content we created. And I

2102
02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 1: think that needs to be noted prior to me doing

2103
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 1: so with some of these conversations like right now. But

2104
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:15,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking, man in the South, who who would

2105
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 1: people say? Right now? In real time? I know that

2106
02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:22,520
Speaker 1: none of these guys stories are done, so we're prematurely

2107
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 1: doing so. But for the sacred conversation and because I

2108
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 1: have a podcast in a certain space in the game,

2109
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:35,920
Speaker 1: you ask yourself, who's the best exact in the South.

2110
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 1: Right now, we're looking at QCP, we're looking at Gucci,

2111
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:48,320
Speaker 1: we're looking at YO. Got it out of those three guys,

2112
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:51,320
Speaker 1: and if I'm missing any other, I know Carl Crawford's

2113
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 1: out there. He's doing pretty. He's doing good down in Texas,

2114
02:05:57,080 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 1: just from exact standpoint, and not not the old school

2115
02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 1: guy I'm talking about, like in the new realm, I think,

2116
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 1: and you got and you got a South Coast Music Group.

2117
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:09,480
Speaker 1: You know, Arno, Tayloring, them doing the hell of a job.

2118
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 1: But you ask yourself because he what he's doing with

2119
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 1: Tussie is the same thing he did with Baby, and

2120
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 1: so Tussie's having his time than the next person I

2121
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:21,600
Speaker 1: had that time. He's building something that's a machine over

2122
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:25,080
Speaker 1: at South Coast Music Group, definitely. But when I look

2123
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:28,120
Speaker 1: at it, I say, who's the best or not the best,

2124
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:31,960
Speaker 1: who's the most effective? Because I don't best pits us

2125
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 1: against each other. Effective identifies our attributes, and so I

2126
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 1: want to be more so in a position not to

2127
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 1: pit us up against each other, but identify attributes so

2128
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:49,480
Speaker 1: that increases our probability for success. Right, So I look

2129
02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:53,040
Speaker 1: at QCP and I'm like, yo, Wow, it's hard to

2130
02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:56,560
Speaker 1: put somebody next to that boy when we're talking. Then

2131
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 1: you throw yo gout in the head like yo, I

2132
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:02,320
Speaker 1: don't know now. Then you throw Gucci in that had name.

2133
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 1: When I look at Gucci, and I'll start with Gucci,

2134
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 1: but when I look at Gucci, I'll say any other exact,

2135
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 1: what a been out of order? Right now? You gotta

2136
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:18,840
Speaker 1: think the two guys, the main two guys out of

2137
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:21,960
Speaker 1: his new wave are in prison Fujiano and Pooh Shister.

2138
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: He was able to that quick door Audible put two

2139
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 1: more dues right there, the big walk Dog, somebody else,

2140
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, hot Boar, West side of Texas, this guy,

2141
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 1: and they may not have passed propelled to the push

2142
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 1: shice in them level, but they're feeling avoiding and they're

2143
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:41,280
Speaker 1: bringing an income as an exact. That's a power move,

2144
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 1: especially that quick. And then you get still waiting on

2145
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 1: shisting them to get out. There be probably some of

2146
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 1: the biggest artists when they get out still under this

2147
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 1: same situation. Right. So his ability to his turnover, God,

2148
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 1: it takes a little bit more time with his artists.

2149
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 1: He put him in the oven, keep him around for

2150
02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 1: a little while kind of promo to him a little bit.

2151
02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:05,920
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, there's an announcement. There's a sign

2152
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 1: in public sign and announcement. Next thing you know, there's

2153
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:11,480
Speaker 1: a single. Right. So he kind of does the old

2154
02:08:11,640 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 1: fashioned um artist development, but in a faster way than

2155
02:08:18,720 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 1: back in the day. Right. But when you and you

2156
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:24,240
Speaker 1: look at QCP, it's just like he can run you

2157
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,080
Speaker 1: right through the ring and it's a YO, gotta kind

2158
02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 1: of got some of the QCP game because QCPA get you,

2159
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 1: get you a future with he used, he used the

2160
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: people on his label, put features around you. You know.

2161
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 1: But it like I always tell y'all, if y'all look

2162
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 1: at YO got it. Just from an exact standpoint, YO

2163
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:44,120
Speaker 1: got it. Was probably the first person to do the

2164
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 1: joint tape. Yo gotta gave money back the real CO

2165
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:49,600
Speaker 1: sign if you want to know what the CO sign

2166
02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 1: looked like. A lot of people were say they get

2167
02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 1: CO signs because they these dudes go to post sitting

2168
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 1: on your page or liking your post. I'm already knowing that, yo, bro, Listen,

2169
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 1: it's niggas that I know that don't like my post.

2170
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:08,320
Speaker 1: I know these boys like I know these guys like

2171
02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:11,640
Speaker 1: it's some hatred in them post likes. Don't get that confused.

2172
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 1: But because some nigga with a blue chick or some

2173
02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:17,400
Speaker 1: famous dude go to liking your post or maybe share

2174
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 1: you here and there, that ain't a co sign, my nigga.

2175
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 1: They ain't putting no money in your pocket. They ain't

2176
02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:27,000
Speaker 1: trying to further your business acumen, they ain't making no

2177
02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:29,960
Speaker 1: phone calls. Yo, push my guy up, turn him up

2178
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:32,960
Speaker 1: like that's what the co sign looked like. So when

2179
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 1: we look at yo guy, if we're looking at the

2180
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:36,800
Speaker 1: co sign, what he did for Bag. He did a

2181
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 1: whole tape with Bag when he was coming off the

2182
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:43,280
Speaker 1: number one with Nicki Minaje with the down in the DM.

2183
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:45,920
Speaker 1: You gotta really remember, I'm a student of the game.

2184
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:48,960
Speaker 1: You gotta remember what that was. That kind of co

2185
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 1: signed was you couldn't pay for sixteen tracks back to

2186
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:56,480
Speaker 1: Bag and then don't don't don't play Bag. Bag was

2187
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:58,919
Speaker 1: holding his own on that. That was just as important

2188
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 1: as the CO sign. And I think a lot of

2189
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:03,640
Speaker 1: y'all don't understand that a nigga can make a call

2190
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,640
Speaker 1: to somebody that can get you a check. Cut one

2191
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 1: chick cut right, You gotta know what to do when

2192
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: that light hit the when that light hit the ice.

2193
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:14,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You gotta know how to

2194
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 1: I turn it on and be effective in whatever position

2195
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 1: that you're in right then to ensure that you locky

2196
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 1: in your spot. And Bag went out on damning every song,

2197
02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:29,040
Speaker 1: and then his career was birth from a level. Some

2198
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 1: of that yo guy that basically shared his fans with

2199
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:34,600
Speaker 1: him and then shared his fans with Youngster, shared his

2200
02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:36,600
Speaker 1: fans with This is what he's doing over there. And

2201
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:40,160
Speaker 1: that's what I said on an Apartments with Pola about Thug.

2202
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:43,960
Speaker 1: It's interesting to understand what people are saying. You know,

2203
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:45,960
Speaker 1: you gotta know what you're looking at to know what

2204
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 1: you're looking at, you know what I'm saying. But um,

2205
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:54,720
Speaker 1: but then you look at QCP, right. I like him

2206
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:59,200
Speaker 1: because he got that boss type vibe about him, you know,

2207
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 1: in regard to ain't no all in the videos, ain't

2208
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:05,680
Speaker 1: all trying to be seen and this and that him

2209
02:11:05,760 --> 02:11:09,600
Speaker 1: doing number putting a whole bunch of pimping down. You

2210
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:12,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, He running around this motherfucker putting

2211
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:16,320
Speaker 1: pimping down. And I ain't worried about being seen. I

2212
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:18,960
Speaker 1: want the best for these guys. These guys may get

2213
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 1: to a point where it gets sticky with these guys

2214
02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:24,320
Speaker 1: on my label, but because of the respect of me,

2215
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:28,400
Speaker 1: we try to keep those things isolated and we're able

2216
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:30,840
Speaker 1: to do that. That's a skill set that owner Street

2217
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 1: Nigga got. Yeah, man, came down one of you, Record

2218
02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 1: Exact niggas. Pull that off. Two niggas on the same label,

2219
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 1: beefing and I gotta make it the way. They got

2220
02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:45,960
Speaker 1: to work around each other sometimes in the same like

2221
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:50,840
Speaker 1: come home, man, Record Exact dudes can't do that. See

2222
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: they used to having somebody in that spot like a

2223
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:56,120
Speaker 1: sugar night that don't that that. Maybe it's a little

2224
02:11:56,200 --> 02:12:01,720
Speaker 1: more aggressive or violet, right. So what that does is

2225
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:04,200
Speaker 1: that put you on the crash course. But you got

2226
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:07,360
Speaker 1: a level headed Street nigga right there. It's like, Yo, y'all,

2227
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:09,760
Speaker 1: fin the fuck the money. What we're doing with the money.

2228
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 1: We don't saw what happened with Rockefeller. We saw what

2229
02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 1: happened with cash. Money went through the thing, Pee went

2230
02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:19,800
Speaker 1: through his time. We don't saw this, y'all. Y'all want

2231
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 1: to do this in real time. We find a crash

2232
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 1: shot now We're not gonna do that. But only a

2233
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:27,600
Speaker 1: street nigga can do that. And that's what I'm saying.

2234
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:31,280
Speaker 1: You could teach a street nigga how to talk on camera,

2235
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:33,600
Speaker 1: you can't teach a nigga to talk on camera how

2236
02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 1: to understand what a street nigga understand. So when you

2237
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 1: sit next to me, you know, and we got to

2238
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:42,360
Speaker 1: discuss the same things, probably nine times out of ten,

2239
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna peep something about it that you may not peep.

2240
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:51,520
Speaker 1: And my ability to translate that into media terms, it's

2241
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:55,880
Speaker 1: my competitive advantage, you know, in regards to the marketplace.

2242
02:12:55,920 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 1: And that's how I feel about that. But but but

2243
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 1: just who would be who would who would you think

2244
02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 1: would be the best? You know, when we look at QC,

2245
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:09,040
Speaker 1: he got City Girls got Yeah, they got Baby. All

2246
02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 1: them shits was unknown ax with no co signs. Everything

2247
02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 1: Pete got over was no bodders with no co signing.

2248
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean I when I say noboddies, I mean far

2249
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 1: as rap industry wise, I ain't talking about street niggas.

2250
02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:27,440
Speaker 1: Whatever they was in the street, that ain't my business.

2251
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with the information for the babies and the

2252
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:32,960
Speaker 1: people that need to know how to navigate the industry

2253
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:36,240
Speaker 1: and understand what's going on. But in the industry, them

2254
02:13:36,320 --> 02:13:39,760
Speaker 1: dudes weren't nothing. Everybody on QC the me goals wasn't nothing.

2255
02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:46,400
Speaker 1: Uh baby, wasn't nothing far as sales, far as a business.

2256
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:49,960
Speaker 1: Um City girls won none, y'all that none of that

2257
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 1: ship wasn't none. Then was unknown ax and they wasn't

2258
02:13:54,040 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 1: even a kind of axe. You gotta also remember in

2259
02:13:56,280 --> 02:14:02,200
Speaker 1: the game, right, dudes used to steal people artists and

2260
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:05,120
Speaker 1: get credit for breaking an artist. Right. I'll give you

2261
02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:08,520
Speaker 1: an example. You have someone like young Buck that come

2262
02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:12,400
Speaker 1: from my time. He really running around with cash money.

2263
02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:15,919
Speaker 1: Then that don't work. He really run around with juvenile.

2264
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 1: So what's happened is he's a free agent right in

2265
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:23,400
Speaker 1: the mind of people that's in the industry. He's not

2266
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:26,760
Speaker 1: a free agent really though, because he's riding with a crew.

2267
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:30,800
Speaker 1: But what happens is they identify the talent. So what

2268
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying is they not really identifying the real talent.

2269
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:37,520
Speaker 1: They're taking what you've identified and taking it from you.

2270
02:14:38,160 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 1: So it wasn't fitted at discovered Buck, and most times

2271
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:47,160
Speaker 1: it happens like that, it was cash money, and then

2272
02:14:47,240 --> 02:14:49,360
Speaker 1: he was with juvenile which put him on the bus

2273
02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:52,360
Speaker 1: with Buck and they ran into each other. So you know,

2274
02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:56,960
Speaker 1: the ability to really know and really take an artist

2275
02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:59,840
Speaker 1: that has none of that around them, none of that.

2276
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:02,120
Speaker 1: I was with Babe, I was on tour. I know

2277
02:15:02,200 --> 02:15:03,800
Speaker 1: how to do the promo thing. Yeah, I know how

2278
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:06,240
Speaker 1: to do DJ drops, that's nothing. I know exactly what

2279
02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:08,280
Speaker 1: the ad liville is. I know where to double it up.

2280
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:10,520
Speaker 1: I know what a quarter to lay. These niggas know

2281
02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:12,400
Speaker 1: nothing about it. They just coming out of the street

2282
02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:15,840
Speaker 1: rapping and they doing they won two and next thing

2283
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, they get what dude, dude put some money

2284
02:15:17,840 --> 02:15:19,280
Speaker 1: in the mark and then they come over here and

2285
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:21,320
Speaker 1: next thing you know, the song take all Drake jump

2286
02:15:21,400 --> 02:15:23,680
Speaker 1: on it. But see the Drake thing jumping on it.

2287
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:27,640
Speaker 1: You gotta remember when we look at Drake jumping on

2288
02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:30,600
Speaker 1: records at that time and not even that time, even

2289
02:15:30,680 --> 02:15:32,680
Speaker 1: up until this day. If Drake jump on a song

2290
02:15:33,200 --> 02:15:36,840
Speaker 1: and you don't take care of your business, that'll be

2291
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 1: your only song. Drake jumped on that Megos record thinking

2292
02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:46,879
Speaker 1: may have been Hannaman vasa Versacha thing. He jumped on Versach,

2293
02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:49,840
Speaker 1: But shit, that's one song. Them dudes had to come

2294
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:53,120
Speaker 1: boom bound, hit again, hit again, hit again, fight night,

2295
02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:55,520
Speaker 1: this that bad and booshe they had to keep coming.

2296
02:15:56,760 --> 02:16:02,680
Speaker 1: But again, unproven acts over at QC, even with Gucci

2297
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:08,000
Speaker 1: Guca don't necessarily have really these last two dudes ain't

2298
02:16:08,040 --> 02:16:11,440
Speaker 1: really necessarily unproven acts. I think one of the hot

2299
02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:14,160
Speaker 1: boy West was running around with trap boy Freddie and

2300
02:16:14,360 --> 02:16:17,680
Speaker 1: his little crew and in that area and the big

2301
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:19,960
Speaker 1: walk Dog. I'm not sure where he was from. But

2302
02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:22,840
Speaker 1: these dudes kind of bubbling a little bit, SHYSTI with

2303
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:24,800
Speaker 1: bubbling a little bit, and now they on a small

2304
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:27,520
Speaker 1: scale and you gotta be doing that is still a

2305
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:29,640
Speaker 1: talent in that because it's so much of that shit,

2306
02:16:30,080 --> 02:16:33,320
Speaker 1: it's over saturated down now again, all three of these

2307
02:16:33,400 --> 02:16:39,000
Speaker 1: guys got a different approach. But um, but I think

2308
02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:42,320
Speaker 1: I just don't know who the best. When we deal

2309
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:48,120
Speaker 1: with Arnold Taylor at over at South Coast Music Group

2310
02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:50,320
Speaker 1: and shout out the chorus bars, it's my guy, been

2311
02:16:50,440 --> 02:16:53,840
Speaker 1: my guy for a long time. Um, you deal with

2312
02:16:54,080 --> 02:16:57,960
Speaker 1: what seems like artist development as well, and you also

2313
02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:01,520
Speaker 1: seem to be dealing with someone who who is taking

2314
02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:05,600
Speaker 1: that traditional take you to almost every radio station, get

2315
02:17:05,640 --> 02:17:09,680
Speaker 1: your plant, get you plannet with the foe, because then

2316
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:12,000
Speaker 1: it's the same. You gotta think his range is crazy,

2317
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:14,600
Speaker 1: because he's still you might still pop up on TNT

2318
02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:18,040
Speaker 1: on some basketball till but then I might hear you

2319
02:17:18,160 --> 02:17:22,160
Speaker 1: laid on at a radio station in Kentucky. You know.

2320
02:17:22,280 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 1: So he's doing a certain level of artist development. But

2321
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:29,920
Speaker 1: I think, unlike Gucci, who I think is into having

2322
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:34,000
Speaker 1: a label full of like just good streaming artists, it

2323
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 1: feels like Arnold Taylor is into making superstars. He want

2324
02:17:38,680 --> 02:17:40,520
Speaker 1: to take his time and make a star out of

2325
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:43,039
Speaker 1: each one of these people. Give him all their little

2326
02:17:43,080 --> 02:17:46,000
Speaker 1: time and try to make a star out of these people. God,

2327
02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:49,480
Speaker 1: it seems to want a niche. Niche you out right,

2328
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:52,200
Speaker 1: so you wrapped and find your niche and we're gonna

2329
02:17:52,240 --> 02:17:56,560
Speaker 1: super serve your niche. When we deal with QC, kind

2330
02:17:56,600 --> 02:17:59,120
Speaker 1: of feels the same. But I also see him cross

2331
02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:01,800
Speaker 1: over too, So he seems like he wants to take

2332
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:06,320
Speaker 1: street dudes, not commercialize them, but give them opportunity to

2333
02:18:06,440 --> 02:18:09,440
Speaker 1: stand next to brands as street dudes or as cold

2334
02:18:09,560 --> 02:18:13,720
Speaker 1: dudes from the culture. Right. And so again with all

2335
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:15,840
Speaker 1: those dudes, I just think they're doing a great job

2336
02:18:16,800 --> 02:18:19,320
Speaker 1: generating a lot of money for the music industry to

2337
02:18:19,480 --> 02:18:22,520
Speaker 1: market share. That's why I say, man, the South is

2338
02:18:22,560 --> 02:18:24,920
Speaker 1: in this crazy position, bro, and we're gonna do the

2339
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:27,760
Speaker 1: same with podcasting that I'm gonna make sure that you

2340
02:18:27,800 --> 02:18:30,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I just had that question

2341
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:33,560
Speaker 1: on my mind, man, with them dudes being so hustling,

2342
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:36,040
Speaker 1: so well, you know what I mean. All right, So

2343
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:40,400
Speaker 1: my next topic today on this up that podcast will

2344
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:46,120
Speaker 1: be NBA Young Boy. For those of you that may

2345
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:49,360
Speaker 1: not know, NBA Young Boy is out of jail on bond,

2346
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:54,880
Speaker 1: federal bond. Is in a situation where I think got

2347
02:18:54,920 --> 02:18:58,400
Speaker 1: a federal gun charge out they called him in California,

2348
02:18:58,600 --> 02:19:01,720
Speaker 1: some other things. The gun charge in California they have

2349
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:04,600
Speaker 1: him owned, but also a video shoot. They were able

2350
02:19:04,720 --> 02:19:07,680
Speaker 1: to catch him with some guns at a video shoot

2351
02:19:07,720 --> 02:19:09,840
Speaker 1: and say that he was a felon in possession of

2352
02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:13,720
Speaker 1: a weapon. Very unique case for fears to go after

2353
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:17,520
Speaker 1: for such a high profile individual. I think that speaks

2354
02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:23,600
Speaker 1: volumes as to the eagerness of law enforcement to wrap

2355
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:27,640
Speaker 1: or charge around an NBA Young Boy. Now, with that

2356
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:30,920
Speaker 1: being said, if you're looking at the screen right now,

2357
02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:35,440
Speaker 1: NBA Young Boy has now came out and started to

2358
02:19:36,879 --> 02:19:42,680
Speaker 1: have makeup on a lot of fans are questioning, you know,

2359
02:19:43,080 --> 02:19:48,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing? What's that about? You know NBA

2360
02:19:48,240 --> 02:19:50,320
Speaker 1: young boys keeping his same kind of vibe he I

2361
02:19:50,320 --> 02:19:52,920
Speaker 1: always have, like he don't care what nobody say or think,

2362
02:19:53,000 --> 02:20:00,320
Speaker 1: and things like that. When I view it again, always

2363
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:03,920
Speaker 1: look at things from different perspectives, you know, I know

2364
02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:08,880
Speaker 1: every every action has a reaction, equal or equal or opposite,

2365
02:20:09,000 --> 02:20:11,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So with knowing that, when

2366
02:20:11,360 --> 02:20:18,480
Speaker 1: I see something like this, when I see something like that,

2367
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 1: I asked myself, are we dealing with someone that's trying

2368
02:20:21,080 --> 02:20:25,760
Speaker 1: to shake the industry? And when I mean shake the industry,

2369
02:20:25,879 --> 02:20:29,279
Speaker 1: like a lot of people want to get in the industry,

2370
02:20:29,320 --> 02:20:32,240
Speaker 1: They want to be rappers, they want to be a

2371
02:20:32,360 --> 02:20:37,880
Speaker 1: part of things, but it only magnifies who you are. Right,

2372
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:42,400
Speaker 1: So if if if I surround myself around shooters and

2373
02:20:42,480 --> 02:20:45,200
Speaker 1: I get some money, we're gonna take everybody the war,

2374
02:20:46,959 --> 02:20:50,280
Speaker 1: right when we're gonna feel unstoppable like DM makes going

2375
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:52,000
Speaker 1: through the light, like you know what I mean, Fuck

2376
02:20:52,080 --> 02:20:56,680
Speaker 1: these police sneaka day can't pump police can't. You're gonna

2377
02:20:56,760 --> 02:21:00,600
Speaker 1: feel that right if you are all ready that you

2378
02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:03,480
Speaker 1: just broke. So a lot of people are already that

2379
02:21:03,720 --> 02:21:07,200
Speaker 1: they just broke, you know, whatever that is that they

2380
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:10,320
Speaker 1: may be, they already that they just broke. So when

2381
02:21:10,400 --> 02:21:14,480
Speaker 1: you broke, sometimes you gotta suppress what you are, right,

2382
02:21:17,640 --> 02:21:21,160
Speaker 1: And so I wonder does NBA young boy sometimes think

2383
02:21:21,240 --> 02:21:24,840
Speaker 1: that rap is the root of his issues. It's also

2384
02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:28,000
Speaker 1: the root of his success and its financial liberation, but

2385
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:31,120
Speaker 1: it could be viewed also it's the root of my issues,

2386
02:21:31,240 --> 02:21:34,119
Speaker 1: Like I go to talking about this and then I'm

2387
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:36,200
Speaker 1: standing on this and I'm acting like I'm doing this,

2388
02:21:36,360 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing that and everything I've ran into being kind

2389
02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:42,520
Speaker 1: of because of rap, you know. So what can I

2390
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:45,840
Speaker 1: do to make them stop sucking with me? Mine? Ready? Rich?

2391
02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:48,840
Speaker 1: Then my deal ain't really no good man? What can

2392
02:21:48,879 --> 02:21:50,960
Speaker 1: I do to make them stop sucking with me? Like,

2393
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing shit because I'm tired of this shit,

2394
02:21:55,000 --> 02:21:57,640
Speaker 1: really tired of this industry. I'm tired of the rap shit.

2395
02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:01,320
Speaker 1: You know, they pulling up my video, getting my video director,

2396
02:22:01,440 --> 02:22:04,400
Speaker 1: dudes getting serial numbers off pictures and this and that,

2397
02:22:04,600 --> 02:22:08,160
Speaker 1: like all because of this rap shit, you know what

2398
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean. So sometimes, you know, and if you listen

2399
02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:13,160
Speaker 1: to him, sometimes he comes off like he don't really

2400
02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:15,520
Speaker 1: care about the rap or you don't care about the

2401
02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:19,240
Speaker 1: music for real no more. It's just like, man, it's

2402
02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:21,280
Speaker 1: a lot of issues. I keep telling you, it's a

2403
02:22:21,320 --> 02:22:23,440
Speaker 1: lot of issues tied to the music, especially when you

2404
02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:27,879
Speaker 1: do that kind of drill rap type thing. I always

2405
02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:30,560
Speaker 1: tell y'all, people gotta live with them results or whatever

2406
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:34,960
Speaker 1: that is that brain now, you know what I mean,

2407
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:37,800
Speaker 1: And they can be in what can be viewed as

2408
02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:42,560
Speaker 1: a wall all about some rap shit, you know what

2409
02:22:42,600 --> 02:22:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean. So youngsters out there, you gotta know when

2410
02:22:44,840 --> 02:22:48,160
Speaker 1: you're asking for this rap game, you gotta know and

2411
02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:52,120
Speaker 1: be prepared for what come with this rap game. And

2412
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 1: you come in this rap game playing, you lose your life.

2413
02:22:56,280 --> 02:22:58,600
Speaker 1: Some dudes is in this rap game not playing and

2414
02:22:58,720 --> 02:23:01,120
Speaker 1: losing their life. So for me, you come in this

2415
02:23:01,280 --> 02:23:04,000
Speaker 1: rap game playing like dudes is playing, and you can

2416
02:23:04,120 --> 02:23:10,280
Speaker 1: this did folk, It did your campaigning for president, you

2417
02:23:10,360 --> 02:23:13,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I just figured, like, man,

2418
02:23:13,640 --> 02:23:16,560
Speaker 1: I wanted this dude trying to shake? Is he trying

2419
02:23:16,600 --> 02:23:19,920
Speaker 1: to shake the industry? Like stop like even though they

2420
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:22,080
Speaker 1: kind of don't mess with him, but his labeled dude?

2421
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:24,520
Speaker 1: Is he trying to shake the label? But it's it

2422
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:26,959
Speaker 1: ain't productive at this point because you're on your way out.

2423
02:23:27,040 --> 02:23:29,080
Speaker 1: They don't care if you ruin your fan base. Now,

2424
02:23:30,440 --> 02:23:32,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They are made out of money,

2425
02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:34,760
Speaker 1: and it's gonna have to be some tough negotiations about

2426
02:23:34,840 --> 02:23:37,640
Speaker 1: their YouTube. They're probably gonna being caught for a couple

2427
02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:41,039
Speaker 1: of years about their YouTube. Or you might see anybody

2428
02:23:41,080 --> 02:23:42,840
Speaker 1: young boys, they'd be like, I'm gonna make it none.

2429
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:46,440
Speaker 1: They probably gonna being caught for a minute about their YouTube.

2430
02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:48,880
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna try to let their YouTube go. I

2431
02:23:49,000 --> 02:23:50,960
Speaker 1: guarantee you that, all right, So we want to get

2432
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:53,680
Speaker 1: to the Sugar Night interview with me and not worth

2433
02:23:53,720 --> 02:23:55,640
Speaker 1: a game again shout out while o' gilly, you know

2434
02:23:55,720 --> 02:23:59,360
Speaker 1: I like what they're doing. Of course, Um, they had

2435
02:23:59,360 --> 02:24:01,600
Speaker 1: an interview with Sugar Knight. Of course Black one hundred

2436
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:04,879
Speaker 1: and Shug Knight been going there at Sugar Knight, according

2437
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:07,880
Speaker 1: to Takash, has reached out to him as where Um,

2438
02:24:07,959 --> 02:24:10,440
Speaker 1: Sugar Knight now has twenty eight years for showing up

2439
02:24:10,480 --> 02:24:15,840
Speaker 1: on Doctor Dre's movie set of NWA getting into it

2440
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:19,199
Speaker 1: with a guy. Guy supposedly wanted you know the fathe

2441
02:24:19,280 --> 02:24:23,240
Speaker 1: from Sugar is what they're saying. Approach Sugar and I

2442
02:24:23,320 --> 02:24:26,560
Speaker 1: guess may have had a file on hit Sugar and

2443
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:29,800
Speaker 1: try to get him out the car and Sugar smashed out,

2444
02:24:29,879 --> 02:24:33,400
Speaker 1: ran over someone and it's now in prison for twenty

2445
02:24:33,480 --> 02:24:36,840
Speaker 1: eight years. Um that he gets out when he's about

2446
02:24:36,879 --> 02:24:40,360
Speaker 1: seventy years old. So this is a unique situation. Sugar

2447
02:24:40,480 --> 02:24:45,320
Speaker 1: Knight Man in this game as well, was a beast. Sugar.

2448
02:24:45,400 --> 02:24:49,400
Speaker 1: Now we're running around switching folk deals up. Man, you

2449
02:24:49,480 --> 02:24:52,119
Speaker 1: gotta think when you got the order, what nigga scared

2450
02:24:52,160 --> 02:24:55,880
Speaker 1: of your wife? Folk? Definitely scared of you. No, I

2451
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:58,440
Speaker 1: mean once he move around the hood that niggas are scared?

2452
02:24:58,520 --> 02:25:03,520
Speaker 1: Are you white folks? Gid So he was able to

2453
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:06,920
Speaker 1: go in there a lot of tasks, probably not even

2454
02:25:07,080 --> 02:25:10,440
Speaker 1: knowing that the aura now he knew, he knew, he

2455
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:14,880
Speaker 1: knew the aura surrounding him made the conversations different with him.

2456
02:25:14,920 --> 02:25:17,600
Speaker 1: In certain labels and radio stations and things like that,

2457
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:20,320
Speaker 1: they would handle him in a way that they wouldn't

2458
02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:24,400
Speaker 1: handle a regular artist and things like that. And so

2459
02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:29,640
Speaker 1: consequently sug ended ended up running into a lot of

2460
02:25:29,720 --> 02:25:33,120
Speaker 1: red tape, you know. Um, So we're gonna listen to

2461
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:35,320
Speaker 1: a little small part of the interview with Willow and

2462
02:25:35,360 --> 02:25:37,040
Speaker 1: then come back and then we'll get out of him.

2463
02:25:37,240 --> 02:25:40,360
Speaker 1: It's only obvious why certain people never go to prison

2464
02:25:40,840 --> 02:25:44,720
Speaker 1: or never go to jail. Well, I decided to take

2465
02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:48,680
Speaker 1: rap music against rap music, kiprops the radio. They told

2466
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:53,520
Speaker 1: me would never work. I may should work. I was

2467
02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:59,160
Speaker 1: getting ninety five percent to ninety seven percent. Ninety seven

2468
02:25:59,160 --> 02:26:01,800
Speaker 1: percent of stuff on the radio is my step somebody

2469
02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:04,800
Speaker 1: else manage. You said, who take that back? Take that back?

2470
02:26:04,840 --> 02:26:07,840
Speaker 1: Should you said? You said you take that back? You

2471
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:12,240
Speaker 1: said it was only five percent. Yeah, they was only

2472
02:26:12,280 --> 02:26:14,959
Speaker 1: getting five percent with the rapper. If they got Kevin

2473
02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:17,080
Speaker 1: said they was having a party. So when I said

2474
02:26:17,080 --> 02:26:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm attack radio, they said, don't do it, would never happen.

2475
02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:24,879
Speaker 1: But one thing I did do, I started getting it company.

2476
02:26:25,440 --> 02:26:27,440
Speaker 1: So let me put that in context for y'all that

2477
02:26:27,560 --> 02:26:31,280
Speaker 1: may can't really hear what's going on. Should Knight is

2478
02:26:31,360 --> 02:26:34,600
Speaker 1: explaining that when he first wanted to go after radio

2479
02:26:34,720 --> 02:26:38,840
Speaker 1: with rappers, gangster rappers, right the ice cubes of the world,

2480
02:26:38,959 --> 02:26:42,360
Speaker 1: the Tupacs of the world, that he was met with

2481
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:44,840
Speaker 1: resistance and them saying, like, yo, that ain't gonna work.

2482
02:26:44,879 --> 02:26:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it won't work. And on top of that,

2483
02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:50,800
Speaker 1: they was only given a very small percentage. He went

2484
02:26:50,959 --> 02:26:54,480
Speaker 1: in basically because they were unaware of the effects probably

2485
02:26:54,879 --> 02:26:58,120
Speaker 1: and also the aura surrounding his name, and was able

2486
02:26:58,200 --> 02:27:01,600
Speaker 1: to switch some of those deals up and affect radio.

2487
02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:05,480
Speaker 1: He went and got married Jay out of a certain situation.

2488
02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:09,199
Speaker 1: He's is when they popping, popping, popping, and couldn't nobody

2489
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:12,600
Speaker 1: else probably get him at them deals, you understand, But

2490
02:27:12,720 --> 02:27:14,959
Speaker 1: I think he may have scared a lot of people. Indeed,

2491
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:17,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, a certain kind of

2492
02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:19,400
Speaker 1: way to where they stay away from him now. But

2493
02:27:19,480 --> 02:27:22,879
Speaker 1: if we're really talking, Due was a force in regards

2494
02:27:22,959 --> 02:27:25,920
Speaker 1: to y'all business acumen. A lot of y'all was in

2495
02:27:26,080 --> 02:27:29,360
Speaker 1: bad deal. Some people navigated and never needed them, but

2496
02:27:29,440 --> 02:27:31,520
Speaker 1: it was a lot of little folks that needed Due.

2497
02:27:33,560 --> 02:27:37,320
Speaker 1: He's five percent radio play, and I wasn't ninety five

2498
02:27:37,320 --> 02:27:40,760
Speaker 1: per se to ninety seven set ninety seven. Stuff you

2499
02:27:40,920 --> 02:27:47,000
Speaker 1: heard was my artists or my label are too fan?

2500
02:27:48,400 --> 02:27:50,640
Speaker 1: Who was you managing that we were up that we

2501
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:52,520
Speaker 1: don't know nothing about? Who was you managing? And nobody

2502
02:27:52,520 --> 02:27:54,680
Speaker 1: who ever knew you was managing? I say, the best one,

2503
02:27:56,000 --> 02:27:58,680
Speaker 1: the most tinn of dudes, one of the most talent

2504
02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:01,640
Speaker 1: institutions in the world still today, it's the vote. Swing.

2505
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:07,400
Speaker 1: I was medag to Josie Swing. The vote was the

2506
02:28:07,480 --> 02:28:13,480
Speaker 1: guy who can write the music, play their instruments to

2507
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:16,280
Speaker 1: the melody, produce it. He wasn't just the beat maker,

2508
02:28:16,320 --> 02:28:18,680
Speaker 1: he was a real producer. One of these things I

2509
02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:21,760
Speaker 1: want to say before I go for my time cut

2510
02:28:21,800 --> 02:28:26,200
Speaker 1: off is this. They use our people to get the talent.

2511
02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:29,480
Speaker 1: Say fasts that if I can go to Compton, if

2512
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:31,520
Speaker 1: I can go to watch, I can go to eat anywhere,

2513
02:28:31,640 --> 02:28:34,320
Speaker 1: talk to too. If I go somewhere and get an artist,

2514
02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:37,160
Speaker 1: once I make them make him a start, the majors

2515
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:39,040
Speaker 1: want to take them front of them because when you

2516
02:28:39,120 --> 02:28:42,520
Speaker 1: look at it, I got some real people I know

2517
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:45,200
Speaker 1: as real. Stardus the whole he's like eating all those

2518
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:53,800
Speaker 1: guys in rough Fridays. They had DMX, Jendicus, the locks Ease,

2519
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:57,800
Speaker 1: they took the max phone, They took e from whom,

2520
02:28:57,959 --> 02:29:01,400
Speaker 1: they took all the from them get the vote. If

2521
02:29:01,640 --> 02:29:08,000
Speaker 1: they had genuine Kimberland and missing, they took all on

2522
02:29:08,120 --> 02:29:12,160
Speaker 1: from him. If that's the thing they do, and they

2523
02:29:12,400 --> 02:29:14,280
Speaker 1: do it since the fifties, and they do it now.

2524
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:17,160
Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys who want to be

2525
02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:19,320
Speaker 1: street guards. To fit the street guards, they say, well,

2526
02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be an industry I'm better than him. Well,

2527
02:29:22,280 --> 02:29:24,680
Speaker 1: a lot of things you don't know about me. I

2528
02:29:24,720 --> 02:29:28,560
Speaker 1: could play league, guitar, bass, guitar, drugs, and write music.

2529
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:31,879
Speaker 1: It's not a coincidence, and it's not it's not smart

2530
02:29:32,360 --> 02:29:35,360
Speaker 1: being stupid. I ain't with the broke talking. I'm with like,

2531
02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:44,000
Speaker 1: you gotta be intelligent to make yourself there. Absolutely, even

2532
02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:47,800
Speaker 1: when it came to little Kim Madam called a coup.

2533
02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:51,960
Speaker 1: So he's gonna continue to give y'all. He's gonna continue

2534
02:29:51,959 --> 02:29:53,959
Speaker 1: to give your game about how he helped people get

2535
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:58,080
Speaker 1: out of deals. Nobody's helping him. He became radioactive and dangers.

2536
02:29:58,120 --> 02:30:01,200
Speaker 1: I think they se people stay away from you when

2537
02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:03,600
Speaker 1: they think you might cross the mouth didn't take me

2538
02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:05,920
Speaker 1: a dot hurt. I could have were like, Okay, I'm

2539
02:30:05,959 --> 02:30:10,200
Speaker 1: putting the project, but now I let it go. Not

2540
02:30:10,360 --> 02:30:12,520
Speaker 1: that I'm scared of my word it, but because I

2541
02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:15,680
Speaker 1: don't gotta be picked if the next motherfucker being fucked up,

2542
02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't gotta be fucked up like that. You know

2543
02:30:18,840 --> 02:30:22,800
Speaker 1: what time I was in storts Got Stories was really

2544
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:26,840
Speaker 1: good for the money. We do business again, partnership together.

2545
02:30:28,040 --> 02:30:39,080
Speaker 1: Snoop comes over with a suck. So let me so,

2546
02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:41,960
Speaker 1: let me give y'all a little game about Sugian what

2547
02:30:42,160 --> 02:30:46,880
Speaker 1: was going on? So sug was operating outside of the

2548
02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:51,360
Speaker 1: industry standard. Right, So this is what happens in any industry,

2549
02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:55,199
Speaker 1: especially entertainment. Right. They got a struct They got instructured

2550
02:30:55,280 --> 02:30:59,640
Speaker 1: in a way where the creator is always the last

2551
02:30:59,720 --> 02:31:04,240
Speaker 1: to be paid and always the most has the most risks, right,

2552
02:31:04,440 --> 02:31:08,360
Speaker 1: because everybody will get their money back and you will

2553
02:31:08,400 --> 02:31:10,040
Speaker 1: be the last one to get it. So if it

2554
02:31:10,160 --> 02:31:12,480
Speaker 1: only make enough to where they get there's you just

2555
02:31:13,000 --> 02:31:14,640
Speaker 1: you may be still in there and owe me a

2556
02:31:14,800 --> 02:31:17,600
Speaker 1: nod and to try to clear up a little modis

2557
02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:23,440
Speaker 1: left over. Right, So it's a constant, constant hamster on

2558
02:31:23,520 --> 02:31:27,760
Speaker 1: a wheel type of thing. What sure Knight was doing

2559
02:31:29,000 --> 02:31:31,760
Speaker 1: was operating outside of that standard. Right, So say you

2560
02:31:31,840 --> 02:31:34,840
Speaker 1: were getting five percent, he get in there and get

2561
02:31:34,920 --> 02:31:37,720
Speaker 1: you seventy five percent. That all cripple what they got

2562
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:40,840
Speaker 1: going on. So you know, as soon as they get

2563
02:31:40,879 --> 02:31:43,119
Speaker 1: a chance to make sure that he don't make no money,

2564
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:45,400
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna do. That's what I would expect

2565
02:31:45,879 --> 02:31:50,120
Speaker 1: because he's operating in at a standard that changes the

2566
02:31:50,240 --> 02:31:54,520
Speaker 1: infrastructure and then changes our lifestyle because we're living off

2567
02:31:54,560 --> 02:31:58,600
Speaker 1: the infrastructure. We are going to cockboat full five six

2568
02:31:58,720 --> 02:32:02,040
Speaker 1: times a year because our artists are streaming so well

2569
02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:04,760
Speaker 1: in the way that the deal is structure. We get

2570
02:32:04,840 --> 02:32:08,080
Speaker 1: paid because we are stockholders and Spotify and this and that,

2571
02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:10,880
Speaker 1: and it's just it's I'm telling you, bro, When you

2572
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:14,840
Speaker 1: peel back the layers of this thing, it gets weird.

2573
02:32:15,480 --> 02:32:18,280
Speaker 1: It gets weird to understand how this thing gets really

2574
02:32:18,360 --> 02:32:22,840
Speaker 1: really outlined. It's a weird, very weird situation. How the

2575
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:26,240
Speaker 1: money's even paid, What they're doing with the information? What

2576
02:32:26,480 --> 02:32:30,240
Speaker 1: is a stream? What does that mean? What is a playlist?

2577
02:32:30,320 --> 02:32:33,160
Speaker 1: How do you get on them? You see what I'm

2578
02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:36,520
Speaker 1: saying always just about the fans. What fans? Because I

2579
02:32:36,600 --> 02:32:41,280
Speaker 1: got four hundred thousand fans, So what fans is it about? Well,

2580
02:32:41,400 --> 02:32:44,160
Speaker 1: it's like it's just some of some of these questions

2581
02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:49,000
Speaker 1: have yet to be answered or even considered because you

2582
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:52,000
Speaker 1: know why, because again, you're dealing with the infrastructure, so

2583
02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:55,600
Speaker 1: you're dealing with somebody who scribbles outside of those lines.

2584
02:32:56,000 --> 02:32:59,320
Speaker 1: It's almost like this, let's say I just left the

2585
02:32:59,440 --> 02:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Bay ain't got me a thousand turkey bads, And I

2586
02:33:03,560 --> 02:33:06,880
Speaker 1: know this is that that pressure. And then when I

2587
02:33:06,959 --> 02:33:10,520
Speaker 1: looked at the game and I've seen with future, you know,

2588
02:33:10,879 --> 02:33:14,240
Speaker 1: like I say, man, Future say yo in the streets,

2589
02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm bigger than jigging. Again, the comparison thing is us.

2590
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:21,119
Speaker 1: This is what we do. Hence why you hear hell

2591
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:25,080
Speaker 1: Jay comparing Beyondce to Michael Jackson. That's what we're doing

2592
02:33:25,160 --> 02:33:28,480
Speaker 1: this culture. Hence why we hear jay Z comparing itself

2593
02:33:28,600 --> 02:33:32,040
Speaker 1: to dig In Pock when he was clearly three or

2594
02:33:32,080 --> 02:33:35,080
Speaker 1: four at that time he were popping number one ship.

2595
02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:38,280
Speaker 1: That's how That's how this thing avivals works, right, you

2596
02:33:38,400 --> 02:33:41,640
Speaker 1: wheel your way into what you got gone right, and

2597
02:33:41,760 --> 02:33:45,040
Speaker 1: though and though you're dealing with results too, you know

2598
02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:47,800
Speaker 1: you ain't just blindly saying them. But at the end

2599
02:33:47,879 --> 02:33:51,080
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, you gotta remember, at the

2600
02:33:51,200 --> 02:33:54,080
Speaker 1: end of the day, man, the games that's being played.

2601
02:33:54,240 --> 02:33:57,600
Speaker 1: I always tell y'all, don't fuck what's being said. Think

2602
02:33:57,600 --> 02:34:00,760
Speaker 1: about who's saying it. I remember Na saying hip hop

2603
02:34:00,959 --> 02:34:05,240
Speaker 1: is dead. I said, damn he is? He talking about

2604
02:34:05,280 --> 02:34:07,600
Speaker 1: the same hip hop he'd been telling about all these years,

2605
02:34:08,480 --> 02:34:10,480
Speaker 1: the one that saved his life, and he wrote records

2606
02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:13,440
Speaker 1: to hip hop and dedicated his life to the one

2607
02:34:13,520 --> 02:34:18,960
Speaker 1: he loved so bad. But see, I think they was

2608
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:21,400
Speaker 1: dealing with a certain leveler and I think he's came

2609
02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:23,560
Speaker 1: about to clear that up. And Nas, I'm a fan

2610
02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:26,280
Speaker 1: of Nag Big Boys Status, gonna have an interview one

2611
02:34:26,360 --> 02:34:29,320
Speaker 1: day with him and Chop some real game up. I'm

2612
02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:32,280
Speaker 1: dealing with the information, not the individuals. I love all

2613
02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:37,879
Speaker 1: my people to be clear that. But when you say

2614
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:40,760
Speaker 1: hip hop is dead, first thing I went to think,

2615
02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:47,400
Speaker 1: and there it's dead because we got it. Oh man,

2616
02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:51,120
Speaker 1: they playing that trick. I've seen this one before. This

2617
02:34:51,240 --> 02:34:54,280
Speaker 1: is a trick of when I get the girl, now

2618
02:34:54,400 --> 02:34:57,360
Speaker 1: she ain't nothing. But if I leave a right to

2619
02:34:57,440 --> 02:35:02,959
Speaker 1: day and you get the girl, she Wifeiberteria. Oh okay,

2620
02:35:07,160 --> 02:35:12,440
Speaker 1: so it's high level chess being played. It ain't no

2621
02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:18,440
Speaker 1: low level racket ball. This high level chess being played. Well, oh,

2622
02:35:18,800 --> 02:35:22,920
Speaker 1: devalue with when when when somebody get it that ain't

2623
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:28,240
Speaker 1: us and I get it, trust me, Like the money

2624
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:31,119
Speaker 1: phone or the things that the auto tune like Jay

2625
02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:35,840
Speaker 1: said the auto tune one nothing, Jay tried to retire teams.

2626
02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when we look back at things again.

2627
02:35:38,320 --> 02:35:41,600
Speaker 1: I like to deal with retrospect. These dudes are the

2628
02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:46,480
Speaker 1: ghosts of our culture for show, but some things they

2629
02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:49,560
Speaker 1: had confused as to when they got off of it,

2630
02:35:49,920 --> 02:35:52,760
Speaker 1: or because they didn't fill it, or because they didn't

2631
02:35:52,840 --> 02:35:59,360
Speaker 1: know that it was no longer reality. I present the

2632
02:35:59,480 --> 02:36:02,600
Speaker 1: question to them is that future is in the same

2633
02:36:02,720 --> 02:36:05,560
Speaker 1: place Jiggle was in when Jigger was three four five

2634
02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:08,720
Speaker 1: in people's eyes, when you had raped, when you had

2635
02:36:08,840 --> 02:36:12,880
Speaker 1: KRS one, when you had a bigger alive or Park alive,

2636
02:36:13,080 --> 02:36:15,560
Speaker 1: when you were dealing with nas going toe for toe,

2637
02:36:16,480 --> 02:36:18,600
Speaker 1: it were people that wasn't putting you at number one,

2638
02:36:18,800 --> 02:36:20,640
Speaker 1: just as well as it was people that's putting you

2639
02:36:20,760 --> 02:36:23,920
Speaker 1: at number one. But the same way people feel about

2640
02:36:24,040 --> 02:36:29,720
Speaker 1: Jay in Future people felt about park In, Jay Biggie

2641
02:36:29,879 --> 02:36:33,880
Speaker 1: and Jay Right. It's the same thing. But in our

2642
02:36:33,959 --> 02:36:37,320
Speaker 1: culture we gotta be left room for us to wheel

2643
02:36:37,440 --> 02:36:42,160
Speaker 1: our way. You know, you gotta leave us room, especially

2644
02:36:42,200 --> 02:36:45,760
Speaker 1: if it's about us. Your hip hop wasn't dead. Hip

2645
02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:51,160
Speaker 1: hop just had escaped. Hippop didn't die, just escaped and

2646
02:36:51,280 --> 02:36:53,760
Speaker 1: went to the South and blend it in. And some

2647
02:36:53,920 --> 02:36:56,280
Speaker 1: people came from up north down to the south, got

2648
02:36:56,320 --> 02:37:00,640
Speaker 1: what the south, planning at their feet. They had what

2649
02:37:00,800 --> 02:37:05,080
Speaker 1: was called foresight. Some people thought it was a fad.

2650
02:37:05,160 --> 02:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I remember some people thought now that shit ain't gonna lay.

2651
02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:11,720
Speaker 1: As what they doing them little bullshit rhymes and beats

2652
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:15,199
Speaker 1: and shit, that shit ain't gonna lay. That's how people

2653
02:37:15,240 --> 02:37:18,560
Speaker 1: were thinking. But they were wrong feeling I'm saying. And

2654
02:37:18,840 --> 02:37:21,800
Speaker 1: we gotta leave ruin for mistakes as well. You know

2655
02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:24,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We ain't critical or nobody getting it wrong.

2656
02:37:24,879 --> 02:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Were critical about them leaving it wrong. Let's let the

2657
02:37:28,200 --> 02:37:30,640
Speaker 1: people know how we navigate around these things, how we

2658
02:37:30,760 --> 02:37:33,040
Speaker 1: swam to the other side of the mountain. I'm sorry

2659
02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:36,840
Speaker 1: of the other island. Let's let people know that. But

2660
02:37:37,040 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 1: back back to the sugar night situation. Right, So it's

2661
02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:44,280
Speaker 1: like you you come back from the bay, you got

2662
02:37:44,360 --> 02:37:46,280
Speaker 1: turkey bads. You know what I'm saying, and you know

2663
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:49,680
Speaker 1: the value of the weed, and you post up and

2664
02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:52,440
Speaker 1: again I make all my money from talking. I'm good

2665
02:37:52,520 --> 02:37:55,680
Speaker 1: at this, so understand I choose my words very carefully

2666
02:37:55,760 --> 02:37:57,720
Speaker 1: when I say, you know the value of the weed,

2667
02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:02,560
Speaker 1: not the cost. So you can get some things for undervalue,

2668
02:38:02,920 --> 02:38:05,120
Speaker 1: depending on what it is and where you're at and

2669
02:38:05,200 --> 02:38:09,440
Speaker 1: who you're shopping with, so everything don't have to get

2670
02:38:09,520 --> 02:38:13,600
Speaker 1: at value, right. So sometimes the cost or something don't

2671
02:38:13,640 --> 02:38:17,160
Speaker 1: represent the value of it, right, So you post up

2672
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:20,520
Speaker 1: on the block with the weed for sealing. This is

2673
02:38:20,560 --> 02:38:23,440
Speaker 1: sure night in this situation with the rap thing. He

2674
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:27,960
Speaker 1: understands the value or if he don't, maybe just bullying it.

2675
02:38:28,120 --> 02:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever it is. I understand the value

2676
02:38:32,640 --> 02:38:38,000
Speaker 1: of these records being played on radio, not what you're

2677
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 1: paying people like he said. He said, some things you

2678
02:38:40,360 --> 02:38:42,200
Speaker 1: got to pay attention to. He said, if they got

2679
02:38:42,320 --> 02:38:46,600
Speaker 1: ten percent, they would throw a party. If they had

2680
02:38:46,640 --> 02:38:49,520
Speaker 1: ten percent represent rotation on the radio, they would throw

2681
02:38:49,560 --> 02:38:51,680
Speaker 1: a party. He got it up to ninety seven percent.

2682
02:38:52,520 --> 02:38:56,440
Speaker 1: It's a totally different work around. It's a totally different atmosphere, right,

2683
02:38:56,560 --> 02:39:02,920
Speaker 1: that's a totally different check. What happens is when I'm

2684
02:39:03,200 --> 02:39:06,960
Speaker 1: standing on my value of my weed, right, and y'all

2685
02:39:07,080 --> 02:39:10,160
Speaker 1: just worrying about the coast of the weed. Meaning it

2686
02:39:10,320 --> 02:39:13,000
Speaker 1: don't really cost you none to make your podcasts, so

2687
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:17,200
Speaker 1: you're selling for nothing. But for me, I'll reach two

2688
02:39:17,320 --> 02:39:20,600
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. I understand the value of that. Whatever

2689
02:39:20,680 --> 02:39:24,960
Speaker 1: it costs me to produce the podcast will be considered,

2690
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:27,959
Speaker 1: but also the impact of the podcasts I'm gonna consider

2691
02:39:28,480 --> 02:39:33,959
Speaker 1: right together, those things that my value. Y'all worrying about costs,

2692
02:39:33,959 --> 02:39:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm worrying about value. You gotta stay with me, right,

2693
02:39:36,800 --> 02:39:38,840
Speaker 1: you gotta stay with what I'm saying. I'm putting real

2694
02:39:38,959 --> 02:39:46,880
Speaker 1: game down. Sure Nite deals represent maybe somebody that knows

2695
02:39:47,000 --> 02:39:52,200
Speaker 1: the value, not necessarily the cost, because funk with y'all

2696
02:39:52,320 --> 02:39:54,800
Speaker 1: payers they get they sell a brain for tem percent.

2697
02:39:54,879 --> 02:39:57,840
Speaker 1: I think ten percent ain't no good. I think tem

2698
02:39:57,879 --> 02:40:01,959
Speaker 1: percent is a bad scenario to be right. So you're

2699
02:40:02,000 --> 02:40:04,200
Speaker 1: standing on your value or the weed. They're selling it

2700
02:40:04,320 --> 02:40:06,960
Speaker 1: for nothing or selling it just to make whatever a

2701
02:40:07,040 --> 02:40:09,120
Speaker 1: little bit of profit they need to make because they

2702
02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:11,760
Speaker 1: flip us. You know, on the street. You got them

2703
02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:15,480
Speaker 1: flippers that will go five dollars under your Graham, ten

2704
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:18,600
Speaker 1: dollars under yours, one hundred dollars under your ounce. And

2705
02:40:18,800 --> 02:40:21,080
Speaker 1: you may think that don't mean none that your ounces

2706
02:40:21,400 --> 02:40:24,680
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty, he is thirteen fifty. A lot of people

2707
02:40:24,760 --> 02:40:27,879
Speaker 1: going the way speedily. If they bang fifteen um, that's

2708
02:40:27,920 --> 02:40:31,440
Speaker 1: another that's another extra zip on it or whatever. You know.

2709
02:40:31,560 --> 02:40:34,000
Speaker 1: The case may be like, However, they're breaking it down

2710
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:38,800
Speaker 1: so the hustlers is paying attention to that, you're understanding.

2711
02:40:38,879 --> 02:40:41,320
Speaker 1: What they end up doing is working you out of

2712
02:40:41,360 --> 02:40:45,199
Speaker 1: a job if you're not financially fit enough to really

2713
02:40:45,320 --> 02:40:48,720
Speaker 1: stand on that value and take that slow money, because

2714
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:52,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, why would I pay seventy dollars for

2715
02:40:53,000 --> 02:40:56,120
Speaker 1: your three five when dude giving me a zip for

2716
02:40:56,280 --> 02:41:00,000
Speaker 1: one hundred. You see what I'm saying, because the value

2717
02:41:00,280 --> 02:41:03,320
Speaker 1: this weed is different, because the quality is different, but

2718
02:41:03,480 --> 02:41:05,400
Speaker 1: they don't give a damn. They just want to roll

2719
02:41:05,480 --> 02:41:08,800
Speaker 1: something up in the backwood and talk shit while they're smoking,

2720
02:41:09,320 --> 02:41:12,119
Speaker 1: so they're not considering the value. And then what happens

2721
02:41:12,160 --> 02:41:15,600
Speaker 1: to the market is people tend to go that route

2722
02:41:15,640 --> 02:41:18,600
Speaker 1: because it seems like it's going faster. So people saying, boy,

2723
02:41:18,640 --> 02:41:20,920
Speaker 1: he getting that shit off at that number. That's my

2724
02:41:21,080 --> 02:41:23,720
Speaker 1: number two dude number. What are you charging? Bro? I've

2725
02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:27,360
Speaker 1: been getting fourteen fifty, I'm fourteen fifty with him, I'm

2726
02:41:27,400 --> 02:41:30,320
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty, you know, because I'm trying to see if

2727
02:41:30,320 --> 02:41:33,800
Speaker 1: I can get off like him, and they get that value,

2728
02:41:34,440 --> 02:41:39,600
Speaker 1: they get that movement can confuse with accomplishments, you understand,

2729
02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:41,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes you work yourself out of a job and

2730
02:41:41,920 --> 02:41:44,680
Speaker 1: then for Shuld of course, the industry on how you

2731
02:41:44,840 --> 02:41:47,840
Speaker 1: you ostracize yourself right when they do got an opportunity

2732
02:41:47,920 --> 02:41:49,880
Speaker 1: at the label, they say, all right, look at our roster.

2733
02:41:50,560 --> 02:41:53,560
Speaker 1: We got an opportunity for Jimmy Kimball or super Bowl

2734
02:41:53,680 --> 02:41:57,720
Speaker 1: performance is paying five hundred thousand dollars. Do we pick

2735
02:41:57,879 --> 02:42:00,400
Speaker 1: somebody from death row and go through Shug can give

2736
02:42:00,440 --> 02:42:03,760
Speaker 1: them seventy percent, or do we pick another artist that

2737
02:42:03,879 --> 02:42:06,680
Speaker 1: we got, like a wye cleft John, that we do

2738
02:42:06,800 --> 02:42:11,640
Speaker 1: the traditional standard fifteen percent. We're gonna go this route.

2739
02:42:11,760 --> 02:42:14,880
Speaker 1: So guess what that does to you? Guys? You stop

2740
02:42:15,040 --> 02:42:17,560
Speaker 1: being seen as much. You work yourself out because they're

2741
02:42:17,560 --> 02:42:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna keep going this way where they're making the most money.

2742
02:42:20,040 --> 02:42:27,240
Speaker 1: Then it's all about to bid. Man. I look at Snoop,

2743
02:42:27,320 --> 02:42:29,600
Speaker 1: I look at his son. If I wanted to be

2744
02:42:29,680 --> 02:42:32,760
Speaker 1: an asshole, they have my opportunity to be an asshole.

2745
02:42:33,680 --> 02:42:38,480
Speaker 1: But instead we embrace each other. But when I looked

2746
02:42:38,480 --> 02:42:41,480
Speaker 1: at his son, his son and looked at me as

2747
02:42:41,800 --> 02:42:47,040
Speaker 1: just my father enemy, it's my father up frost in

2748
02:42:47,080 --> 02:42:49,080
Speaker 1: the pan. He looked at me like I was his

2749
02:42:49,560 --> 02:42:52,280
Speaker 1: uncle that's been in prison somewhere and I'm home now

2750
02:42:52,320 --> 02:42:56,000
Speaker 1: he get to see me, and that changed a whole

2751
02:42:56,320 --> 02:42:58,600
Speaker 1: lot of shit. You know, hey, sugar, I just got

2752
02:42:58,680 --> 02:43:00,720
Speaker 1: to ask you this one question. I just gotta ask

2753
02:43:00,760 --> 02:43:03,000
Speaker 1: you this one question. The streets want to know. We

2754
02:43:03,160 --> 02:43:05,320
Speaker 1: had whack one hundred on the show. You know what

2755
02:43:05,400 --> 02:43:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean. You know he was hyping his mac up

2756
02:43:07,240 --> 02:43:09,520
Speaker 1: and we told the nigga nigga shut up. You was

2757
02:43:09,560 --> 02:43:12,000
Speaker 1: shugged night driving, nigga. You cain't do number but warm

2758
02:43:12,120 --> 02:43:17,200
Speaker 1: shuged cars up. Was whack anything more than that? I mean,

2759
02:43:17,959 --> 02:43:23,000
Speaker 1: what trold truck right from the valley. But that's a

2760
02:43:23,120 --> 02:43:27,440
Speaker 1: cut right there. Y'all. Family, but enjoy your family, all

2761
02:43:27,520 --> 02:43:30,760
Speaker 1: this ship. Arg on everybody speaking on problem since you

2762
02:43:30,840 --> 02:43:34,480
Speaker 1: know nothing about trying to put Wallower serious, right, don't

2763
02:43:34,480 --> 02:43:38,880
Speaker 1: make matter of fact. You know this is real. Jameson

2764
02:43:38,959 --> 02:43:42,039
Speaker 1: you was argan. You and this person argan you were

2765
02:43:42,040 --> 02:43:44,480
Speaker 1: a stead up box argin. Man, Let's show up some

2766
02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:47,960
Speaker 1: other sucker we're getting talking about mob James pay per

2767
02:43:48,040 --> 02:43:54,160
Speaker 1: view and squabble up. You know shit, I'm I'm, I'm,

2768
02:43:54,280 --> 02:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm three thirty five, three forty in shape. I'm

2769
02:43:57,520 --> 02:44:00,560
Speaker 1: with all the bullshit you still got. You still go

2770
02:44:00,760 --> 02:44:03,560
Speaker 1: up I'm saying you're a little older, should you still

2771
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:05,880
Speaker 1: you still go move around? You can move around, you

2772
02:44:05,959 --> 02:44:08,520
Speaker 1: can move around. Right. Look, hey, when I was in

2773
02:44:08,560 --> 02:44:12,560
Speaker 1: the county here, they wouldn't season I had blood Clark shot.

2774
02:44:13,080 --> 02:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Now listen when it comes to selling records. Right. The

2775
02:44:15,560 --> 02:44:17,400
Speaker 1: reason I mentioned some of the CEOs that I mentioned

2776
02:44:17,400 --> 02:44:21,080
Speaker 1: because they're young casting. So like I say, man, that

2777
02:44:21,240 --> 02:44:23,959
Speaker 1: should night mean not worth a gag. Shout out to them, dudes,

2778
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:26,800
Speaker 1: good interview. Let's see if we got anything else for

2779
02:44:26,959 --> 02:44:29,080
Speaker 1: we get out of here, all right, So man, that's

2780
02:44:29,120 --> 02:44:31,840
Speaker 1: another episode. If it's up there, podcast, I appreciate it.

2781
02:44:31,920 --> 02:44:35,760
Speaker 1: About this taped in again, make sure you on Patreon.

2782
02:44:35,920 --> 02:44:38,160
Speaker 1: There will be a free section and Patreon where you

2783
02:44:38,200 --> 02:44:41,640
Speaker 1: get the videos. That's the only place you get my videos.

2784
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:46,279
Speaker 1: But you have to um be a supporter to unlock

2785
02:44:46,400 --> 02:44:48,840
Speaker 1: certain other things, be a part of the show, get

2786
02:44:49,320 --> 02:44:52,120
Speaker 1: access to the interviews early, certain things like that. So

2787
02:44:52,320 --> 02:44:55,160
Speaker 1: head over the Patreon it's up there podcast. Support the

2788
02:44:55,360 --> 02:44:59,560
Speaker 1: podcast that way. We are in the new year. Next

2789
02:44:59,640 --> 02:45:02,640
Speaker 1: week be our official next podcast in the new year,

2790
02:45:02,720 --> 02:45:06,080
Speaker 1: so we'll bring some some some big boy energy out

2791
02:45:06,200 --> 02:45:10,039
Speaker 1: and definitely attack the game in a certain way. We're

2792
02:45:10,080 --> 02:45:13,400
Speaker 1: going to thank everybody for tuned in. It's up that podcast.

2793
02:45:13,520 --> 02:45:14,000
Speaker 1: Let's get it.