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Speaker 1: Welcome Willie D. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to do anything for Willie. So you just can't

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00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: come test me, trying me talk to any kind of

429
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: ways to lap me all upside the head. So I said,

430
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: you know what, this is not the best role for

431
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: me because all of this time I've escaped the felony

432
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get one DISSI lay in

433
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: the game behind somebody pushing me and handling me any

434
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: kind of way. So how did you deal because you

435
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: have street credibility, So how did you deal with because

436
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: I know there was a time or two with somebody

437
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: forgot you. How did you deal with that? And when

438
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: you're running, you're very good? Okay. So so I already

439
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: had experience with this being in the music industry because

440
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm from the streets. So once I got in the

441
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: music industry, people would try me thinking that, oh here celebrity.

442
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: He don't want to get sued. Next thing, you know,

443
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: Dan Dan Fries and Shake they knocked out. I gotta

444
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: be a treaty bird. Dass and now they know it's

445
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: real for meal. So my thing was has always been

446
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: I'm a man first. It took me a while to

447
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: figure out how to navigate through a lot of that stuff.

448
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: I got certain ways that I move. Now I'm still

449
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: gonna get him, but I just got certain ways that

450
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: I move that they can't just push that button. I

451
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: do this, push this button, I do that. So when

452
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: I when I started into the political realm of things,

453
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: it was like they were like they started on social media,

454
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: getting on social media. Oh yeah, yeah, you can't make

455
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: some fine city council and talking like that. Aren't you

456
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: running for public office? Uh, you shouldn't post this or

457
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do this. And then and I'm like, wait

458
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: a minute, how the same motherfucker's who voted for Trump? Right,

459
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: y'all the same ones here, y'all the same ones that say, well,

460
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, Trump is and you know what, I like

461
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: Atlasi real. I like him. I like him because he

462
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: said what's on his mind. At least he's real. So

463
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: this tells me that you think that you actually think

464
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: because I the truck white, are he the president, that

465
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: he's somehow better than me. And if you think he's

466
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: better than me, and you gotta think that he's better

467
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: than you. See, So that's a self hate issue that

468
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: you're dealing with. Like, so my thing is that has

469
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: always been from music to politics to any other uh endeavor.

470
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: I'm a man first first and foremost. So anybody out there,

471
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, any one of you out

472
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: there listening that may have it on your mind. If

473
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna be able to use music or

474
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: politics or podcasts or book or movie or any of

475
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: that against me and and try to use that as

476
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: leverage to disrespect me, you got another thing coming. Like

477
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: I don't rock like that. And there's a lot of

478
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: people out there who are in this in this podcast space,

479
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: who are in this YouTube space, are very very disrespectful.

480
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: But but these type of people, they look they lay low,

481
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: they go places where they don't, they pop up unannounced

482
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: because they're scary assets. Note that they out there living

483
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: bad and they they're creating a lot of enemies. So

484
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't really have a problem with people coming at

485
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: me like that because I kind of take care of

486
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: the problems as they come. I don't let it get

487
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: too far out of control. Even when they think they

488
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: got away with something. I get them, you know, and

489
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be straight up, but I get them. I

490
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: just wanted to speak to them. But those are listening.

491
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know, promoting violence and condoning and

492
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying it is what it is. But more importantly,

493
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying, using what I said against me? Are using

494
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: what someone else did? Are you? You know I've said things,

495
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: They've used things against me, writing articles, making up lies.

496
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: You know, I'm literally staying up for black people, and

497
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: you're saying I'm being racist things like that, always holding

498
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: something over your head. This cancel culture idea and one

499
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: thing that Trump has did and people don't have to

500
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: like it, but because he has completely transformed with a

501
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: elected officials look like, sound like, talk like, it has

502
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: opened up the space for the real, open up the

503
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: space for those to behave I'm gonna say we need

504
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: to be said, and I'm gonna put it out there.

505
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: He will always get a pass. White men will always

506
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: get a pass, more so than a black man ever will.

507
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: But it has at least put the mind of the

508
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: in the mind of folks that there's a different way

509
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: to do politics, and there's a g way of doing it.

510
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: We just need somebody on our side. They can handle

511
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: it the same way. They can say would need to

512
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: be said. That's gonna push the line, that's not gonna

513
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: back down. Trump don't give damn about what we feel

514
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: and what we said about him. He's focused on his base,

515
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: as he should. The question is who's gonna be focused

516
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: on our base and focus on us and focus on

517
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: the folks, you know the votes that we give and

518
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: hold accountable and say, I don't give damn nobody agree

519
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: with me. I'm building the wall. I don't care if

520
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: nobody agree with me. Law and order first, you know,

521
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: those are the things that that Trump says, I don't

522
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: care if you like it or not. Make America great again.

523
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: Where are elected officials that are pushing the line on

524
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: the federal, state, and local level. And I know there's

525
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: some out there, Willie, they just don't get the shine.

526
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm hoping with this show and the Black Effect podcast

527
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: Network that we can bring a lot of voice of

528
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: people who really are out there pushing the line by

529
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: themselves and just don't have the media attention. I want

530
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: to go back to something you said about Kanye because

531
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: I picked up what you sat down. You said that

532
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: clearly you wouldn't agreeing with the things that Kanye did

533
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: because you said some celebrities just to be thrown away.

534
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Speak to me about how you feel on Kanye's move,

535
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: how he's moving in that space and if you agree

536
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: or disagree, or do you think he should just sit

537
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: his ass down and shut up and wrap are Do

538
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: you think he should continue? Do you think some of

539
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: the things that he's doing is accurate? I guess how

540
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: do you separate yourself from him and what he's doing

541
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: from those who you believe are really pushing the line

542
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: for black people? Are who those who are involved in

543
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: it for selfish reasons? Kanye? Every day, the dude is unpredictable.

544
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna say, You don't know

545
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: what sciety's on. You know, first slavery was a choice,

546
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: and now you're trying to get rid of slave contracts

547
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: in the music industry. You know, like every day it's

548
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: always something, but it's it's self serving. That's the biggest

549
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: problem that I have with dude. Everything that he does

550
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: is self serving. Like he's talking about now he wants

551
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: to get rid of these slave contracts, in the music

552
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: industry starting with his but we already know that it's

553
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: all about his and after he gets his is if

554
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: you and everybody else because the world revolves around Kanye West.

555
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: And I just find it, I find it very uh

556
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: ridiculous that so many people just are so willing to

557
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: give him so many chances, like he gets to say

558
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: so much regular ship about our community, and he gets

559
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: chanced after chance after chance after chance. And I already

560
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: know the only reason they do this is because the

561
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: dude is famous and he makes a lot of he

562
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: makes records and stuff, you know, and some of them

563
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: still got the college dropout, and they just can't They

564
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: just can't connect the college drop out with this new

565
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: Kanye West. But they don't want to throw him to

566
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: the bus because they love jam and that that record

567
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: so much, so they don't want to throw him under

568
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: the bus. But to me, the enemy is an enemy.

569
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you black or white. There are

570
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: white supremacists who are black. People don't understand that because

571
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: white supremacy is a mentality. It is not a color,

572
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: it's a mentality. And and this dude has a white

573
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: supremacist type mentality. So look, people say, well, you know

574
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: he's bipolar. Look, look my my my band made is

575
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: bi polar. I write, Uh, he don't. He don't throw

576
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: his black He don't grow throw the black community under

577
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: the bus. Why isn't that Yeah, let's pause right there. Yeah,

578
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: because I was gonna say that, Do you give him

579
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: grace because of him being by polar? And know what,

580
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't because I know a lot of bipolar people

581
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: who look, you might be by but he ain't. Boo,

582
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: Let's make some you know what I'm saying. Let me

583
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: tell you something this dude, if he really uh, if

584
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: I felt like he was s sick, I would feel

585
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: like he was sincere if he attacked the establishment too.

586
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: But he don't go He don't say bad things. He

587
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: don't collectively criticize white folks. He never collectively criticize his

588
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: white folks, Asian people, Hispanics, nobody. He only goes after

589
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: the black community, terry crews. It's the same way he

590
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: only sees bad in his own people. He only sees

591
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: problems with his own people. Why doesn't he call call

592
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: our white supremacy? Okay, Trump your boy? I see you

593
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: want to kiss Trump in the mouth. You want him

594
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: to be your daddy. You want to bump and grind

595
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: with him. I get that, Okay, that's your love on

596
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: the side, But what about the other What about the

597
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: killers of Brianna Taylor? What about the cops that killed

598
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor? What about the after they killed the caps

599
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: they killed uh Tamir Rice? You know what? What what

600
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: about all these killings of all of this disrespect and

601
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: and the discrimination. What about all of this stuff? But

602
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: you ain't. You ain't got nothing to say about that,

603
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: or it's our fault. So he got up. He gotta

604
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: blame the victim mentality when it's collectively black folks. But

605
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: when it's him, he ain't got nothing to say. And

606
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: when it's and it's when it's anybody else. I saw

607
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: the black people. He has no criticism for them. This

608
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: is why I say he's a cool and this is

609
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: why I say he's not for us. This is why

610
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: I say he deserves any type of page he gets.

611
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: When they started talking about Kanye, well, as mama died,

612
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: he ain't been the same his mom and my mama

613
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: died to everybody else, Yeah, my mama died. That's kicking down.

614
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: I didn't start throwing black people, well my mama died.

615
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Well not since my mama did, I guess I can

616
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: gonna start throwing the black community on the pus. That's

617
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: just real. And you made a point, and I don't

618
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: know how far you can go into that, but you

619
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: said my band made is by Polar, and I thought

620
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: that was important that you said that, meaning you understand

621
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: that people can deal with mental illness in this space

622
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: and still no, damn well, what they're doing, still have strategy,

623
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: Still no, be very clear about their agenda and be

624
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: very clear about you know, the choices that they're making.

625
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: And I don't think you know that would be really helpful.

626
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: Is somebody that struggles with that could speak to that

627
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: on kind, because that that's that's what it's coming back.

628
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: When you know about Polo, where we get that, and

629
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: what you're saying is I know he by Polar, but

630
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 1: I also know he's on bullshit too. That's pretty much

631
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying. You can be on bullshit and steal

632
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: a bipolar It's what you say exactly, And for him

633
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: to try to use that as an excuse is disrespectful

634
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: to all people who are really who are really challenged

635
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: with that disorder. You know that that that's that's really

636
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: disrespectful because he hides behind it. First, he's a genie.

637
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm a genius. I'm a genie. Nobody can tell me nothing. Man, way,

638
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: you ain't got the answer, sway and all this ship

639
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: he could do, all this genius, He's a genius. He's

640
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: a well you know, man, man, when you know, when

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Speaker 1: you know when this Kanye man, you know, you know

642
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Speaker 1: he should be going through it many No. Man, Now, now,

643
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: this dude he got to be held accountable for his actions,

644
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: just like everybody else does. And all skinfolks ain't kin folk.

645
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: And he's one of those dudes. Look, I don't want

646
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: to have to say this. I mean, he's my peer

647
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Speaker 1: in the music industry. I'm not the type of dude

648
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: that just go around trying to make enemies. But I

649
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: know an enemy when I see one, and I'm not

650
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna shy away from one. If an enemy is an enemy,

651
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: you get what you get. And I don't give a

652
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: damn what happened to Kanye. Uh, he can go down today.

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00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't shed the tell. I wouldn't give

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Speaker 1: a damn what happened to do because he's not on

655
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Speaker 1: our side. He's just he just got the complexion. He

656
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: got the complexion, and that's it. It's so many people

657
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: look at kindness on She's a a lot. It's no

658
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: way possible you can look at that woman to say

659
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: she for us. Do you think she makes some good

660
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: points sometimes? Do you look at some of the things.

661
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: That's how she gets over. You gotta throw some points. Yeah,

662
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: it's just like Kanye. You gotta throw some good points

663
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: in there to get over. That's how they do. They're

664
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Speaker 1: throw out a couple of this is this cool one

665
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: on one right, throw out a few good points. Start

666
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: off with a black on black crime, democrats taking advantage

667
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: of things that cannot be disputed, right back on black crime,

668
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot of black men and single parent households, you

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Speaker 1: know all this stuff. Throw that out and then go

670
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Speaker 1: in heavy on going heavy on black folks. Never skip

671
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: gloss all the way over the reason why these things

672
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Speaker 1: are happening. Gloss all the way over that. Make sure

673
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Speaker 1: you don't blame any of them folks that has uping

674
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Speaker 1: to do with these policies that that were enacted to

675
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: create these conditions in the first place. Just blame the

676
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Speaker 1: victim focused on that, and then we would cut you

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Speaker 1: to check. So that's what Candis Owens did. Candis Os

678
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Speaker 1: was like, you remember when she had a liberal blogcrat,

679
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Speaker 1: she had the liberal blog when I was challenging Democrats,

680
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: she had a liberal blog. That's exactly right, and she

681
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: tried to when she had the liberal blog. Oh man,

682
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: she was on point to back that up. She had

683
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Speaker 1: already suthed, the establishment got paid her, the family got

684
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Speaker 1: paid for racial discrimination case, and everything was beautiful. But

685
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: the people came to her and said, hey, Candice, you know,

686
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: you know you're you're not all the way liberal, you know,

687
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Speaker 1: like you know, like I'm listening to you talking. You've

688
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of conservative you You know what if

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00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: you would come over here, man, I could get you

690
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: so many views and I could make sure you can

691
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: get paid if you come over here. And Candid's like, no, no, no,

692
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: no about old that or let mc donal to my people.

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Speaker 1: She come that, They gave her a bag and she

694
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Speaker 1: got paid. So so she went for the bag. She

695
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: went for the bag, just like I'm a Rosa. I'm

696
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: a Rosa. Never said nothing negative about Trump until he fired.

697
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: You know, now all of a sudden, he's a racist,

698
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: But she defended him being a racist the whole time

699
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: she was on the pay roll. Now he's a racist,

700
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: something that everybody else has always known. Trump's was raised

701
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: in a racist household. His daddy was a classman raised

702
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: and raised in a classman household. How can he not

703
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: be a class I could he not be racist? But

704
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: people want to say, well, you know he's not a racist.

705
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: Look at all the pictures he had with black people,

706
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: black celebrities. Look at that. Who don't want to take

707
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: a picture with a celebrity. I don't care what color

708
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: you are. People like taking picture. People take pictures with celebrities.

709
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: And furthermore, most of the people that are in those

710
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: pictures didn't have the knowledge that they have of Trump today,

711
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: all of these racist things that he said and the

712
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: things that he's done. Him and his dad, Ay're getting

713
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: sued for racial discrimination when it was running their apartment

714
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: complexes in New York and all that stuff. People didn't

715
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: have all of that knowledge then. So hell I even

716
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: said his name and one of my songs back then,

717
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: because that's what rappers do, you know. We we we

718
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: make metaphors for for power and music and luxury. You

719
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: know in his name, his name was indicative of power, money,

720
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: So you say, yeah, you're trying to get rich like

721
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Trump whatever whatever. But I bet he can't get nobody

722
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: to say that, not not no real ones. He can't

723
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: get that that type of information out there now because

724
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: we know who he is. He's been exposed. But see

725
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: you acknowledge both sides. You acknowledge him, but also the

726
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: racism we see within the Liberal party as well. When

727
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: you look at who's wrote more racist policy, that would

728
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: be Biden. That's us the truth, And I'm not sett

729
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: enough for Trump. I'm saying he talks, I use it

730
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: like gangs because I come from the nineties. Are bloods

731
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: and cripts, Republicans, blood Democrats, crips het pushing the line

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Speaker 1: for his set period. So I don't expect. I don't

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Speaker 1: expect him to move the way I want him to move.

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Speaker 1: The question is when somebody on my own team, my

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00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: own set, has wrote racist policy. And I'm not just

736
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Speaker 1: using biding example, but just in general, when do we

737
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Speaker 1: call that out? And I think when I listen to

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Speaker 1: Canada's Owens and all the different conservative black people most

739
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: of us were raised with a lot of conservative values.

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00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: If you were raised in an old school, you know

741
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: error it's not that I think they may make a

742
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of good points, just as well as Democrats to

743
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: make a lot of good points. My thing is when

744
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: they attach themselves to Trump, like you can't just make

745
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: a concern, just make your point if it's anti abortion,

746
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: or if it's, hey, we need more economic opportunities. We

747
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: want people to get paid, get the bag. Because that's

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00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: a Republican view. That's not a Democrats view about getting

749
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: that money. And all rappers want to get their money.

750
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: Second Amendment being able to protect yourself rappers put they

751
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: don't push it up there, so they push that. So

752
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: a lot of those views are conservative values. But my

753
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: problem is they attach it to Trump. Every time you

754
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: gotta attach just tell me where you're saying, without attaching

755
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: it to any politicians for that matter. And that that's

756
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: where I find the issue because then it doesn't bring balance.

757
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: And like you said, you never call out the other

758
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: side of what they do. You focus on us. And

759
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: when I hear little things like oh Democrats, thank you stupid, No,

760
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: you are saying that because that's what you believe. It

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00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: ain't more tables. But they're also saying that as as

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00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: a way to manipulate your energy, right, in a way

763
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: to try to try to shame you into voting for

764
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: the other side. So they think we're stupid, that we're stupid.

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Speaker 1: So you're right, the person that's saying that, they think

766
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: we're stupid. Right, So they think we're stupid enough to

767
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: hear them say to call us to insinuate that we

768
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Speaker 1: might be stupid, that's right, so that we vote for them.

769
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Speaker 1: So right, that's called the pimp game. One on one.

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Speaker 1: Anything you know about the pimp games can see that

771
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: straight through the Democratic plantation. Well, what's the alternative? Come

772
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: to the Republican plantation? They want? Democratic plantation was okay

773
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Speaker 1: with them. I don't want to be on the demo

774
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Speaker 1: clantic plantation. Let me get off. What can I go?

775
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: Come on over here? Well that's the rember the plantation.

776
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: So that's what they want. They want you to get

777
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: off that when they come over here, you have to

778
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: It's like asking a guy to come off the streets, right,

779
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: I want you to get out the streets. My brother

780
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: was in the streets, right, I had to give him

781
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: an alternative. I can't just say, get out of the streets.

782
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: I gotta give him a better alternative to being in

783
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Speaker 1: the streets. What give me a better alternative. The reason

784
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: why the Republicans have such a hard time attracting black

785
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: people is because the clan is too comfortable in the

786
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: Republican Party. All of the all of the hate groups,

787
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Speaker 1: the the Clan, the neo Nazis and white nationalists, all

788
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: of these people are in the Republican Party. They all

789
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: identified with the Republican Party because they're closer to their values.

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00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: You know what they're you know what the Republican Party values.

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00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: It's their their values is is to make sure that well,

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Speaker 1: let me put it, let me back up, that's all

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00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: I was about to say, and make sure that black

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00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: folks don't do an advance. But that's pretty much all

795
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: air policies. But they are allowed about it. The biggest

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00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: difference between in my opinion, between the white liberal and

797
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: and and the white conservative is that the white conservatives

798
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: is just more crud. You know, they're they're they're they're rude.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're loud, and they'll tell you to your face.

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Speaker 1: They don't like it. Right. At the same time, the

801
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: white liberal is over here sticking it to you the

802
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: whole time. They're doing the same thing. But they but

803
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: they smile in your face, you know, lad behind your back.

804
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: These people over here, they're gonna do it in your face. So,

805
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: in my opinion, we just need to do our own thing.

806
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: We need to just do our own thing, hold out votes,

807
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: and if we're gonna do business, we can do business

808
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: with them. Look, we do business with people every day

809
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: that that we wouldn't trust with our with the code

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Speaker 1: to I phone, you know, or the code I baker

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Speaker 1: you know, our bank account, our online banking, right, we

812
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: do business with those type of people every day. So

813
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: we can do business with the Democrat Art Republicans. What

814
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: you'll vote? Give us though? Get what I'm saying, Yeah,

815
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: what do you mean hold your vote? Because as I

816
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: want to be clear about what's your position, what's your

817
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: message as we move forward with this election? When you

818
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: say hold the voter, you're talking about focus on state

819
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: and local elections because that's obviously important. You know, there's

820
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: real issues out that I tell people like in Florida,

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Speaker 1: for example, fifteen increasing the minimum wage fifteen dollars an

822
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Speaker 1: hour is on the ballot because you can actually vote

823
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Speaker 1: too to have minimum wage. You don't have anything. You

824
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: don't have shipped to do with Trump and Biden. When

825
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: you say hold the voter, you saying be strategic and

826
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: focus on state and local? Are you saying just sit

827
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: back and hey, y'all figure out what what what deal

828
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring to the table, Republicans and Democrats, And

829
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: whenever you'll bring the right deal, we're gonna move forward.

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00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: Be clear and tell us what do you what is

831
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: Willie d saying on where you believe how people should

832
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: be moving forward? On November three, the vote focused on

833
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: state and local elections because that's where your power is.

834
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: That's where you're gonna get almost immediate results for your vote.

835
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: Like you can you can actually walk up to your

836
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: city council person. You can meet that person. You can

837
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: take a picture, you can have their phone number, you

838
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: can have the get the phone number to the mayor,

839
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Speaker 1: you know, controller, the commissioner, you know these people. You

840
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: can get close to these people. You can see your

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00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: vote work and damn near real time that president thing.

842
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: In my opinion, America has an agenda. That agenda must

843
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: be be met regardless of who is president. It doesn't

844
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: matter I personally believe that that that voting for president

845
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: is more of a popularity context. It's all about who

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Speaker 1: you can stand and listen to and look at for

847
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: the next four to eight years, because all of them

848
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to get in line with whatever that agenda is.

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Speaker 1: That because they're not the president is not putting the

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Speaker 1: strengths they they they're on that their own the street,

851
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: at that end of the string. They're not at the

852
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: top of the stream. There at the end of the stream,

853
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: so they're at the end of the stream. So they're

854
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: not calling the shots. So in my opinion, I think

855
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: that we would have a better I think that we

856
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: would have a better chance if we held our vote

857
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: to get what we wanted. If Biden is not gonna

858
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: give us what we want, then I say hold the

859
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: vote and let's let let's take a look at it another.

860
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Let's look at it in two look. So what you're saying,

861
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: you're not afraid of Trump, and most people on the

862
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: streets are not. I'm gonna tell you why I'm not

863
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: afraid of Trump being in there for four more years

864
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: because I'm a rider and a no president gonna stop

865
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: me from getting what I want and stopped me from

866
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: getting mine right now. Also, if I'm gonna look at

867
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: it bigger than myself, we've survived. We've survived the worst

868
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: than Trump. We've survived actual presidents who owned slaves. Trump

869
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: just wants to own slaves. We've survived presidents who've owned slaves.

870
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: We've survived the Congress where the majority of the Congress

871
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: owned slaves. This is why it's so hard. People don't

872
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: understand why it's so hard to get rid of slaves.

873
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: All of the lawmakers are benefiting from slavery. The bankers

874
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: were benefiting from slavery. The bankers. The bankers were repossessing

875
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: human beings. Chase Bank, Wells, Fargo, Bank of America. Look

876
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: it up. It's in their history that we possessed human beings. Okay,

877
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: So all of them, the transportation industry, the medical industry, education,

878
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: all of them had a hand in slavery. All of

879
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: them benefited from slavery. All of the major institutions in America,

880
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: every single one of them benefited from slavery. So this

881
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: is why I was so hard to get rid of it.

882
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: So I'm saying that I think that if we would

883
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: have hold our vote, it would be more valuable than

884
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: just giving it away. If Goden is not going to

885
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: give us what we won't okay he gave Look Kamala

886
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: Harris black VP, Okay, black woman cool? What Okay? What

887
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: is she gonna do? Why she ain't that? Because we're

888
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: not already went through this with Obama for eight years?

889
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: You know what, do we feel safer today than we did?

890
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: Ask yourself for anybody that got a problem with what

891
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, do you feel safer today then you did

892
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: eight years ago? And so what do you say to

893
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: people when they say we will they you can afford

894
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: for Trump to be in former years. I can't afford

895
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: it because of my current situation. I need, you know,

896
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: democratic leadership in in order to survive. I have to

897
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: get Trump out because I can't afford for Trump to

898
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: be in four more years because I see that my

899
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: life is going to get worse now before you. My

900
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: answer to that is, I tell people the reason why

901
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: the fear tactic doesn't work for Trump, for most people,

902
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: even poor people, not rich people, not middle class people,

903
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: for poor people, because they've already lost everything. People that

904
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: are most afraid are people that have power because they

905
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 1: don't want to lose power. White folks have always had power,

906
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: they've always dominated. So this election, they're more afraid if

907
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the fear tactics. They're more afraid

908
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: of me being a power and them losing their power

909
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: than I could ever be afraid of me losing something

910
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: I never had. What I mean is, even if you say, hey,

911
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna go back you'll be homeless, Well, guess what

912
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: I've been homeless. If they say you're gonna we're gonna

913
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: take your car, and guess what, I've lost that too.

914
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: If they say we're gonna take your income, I've lost

915
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: that too. So I try to sell people that the

916
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: people that I talked to, the people that I know,

917
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: the reason why they're not afraid of Trump being in

918
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: four more years because they've already lost it before. They've

919
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: lost it, got it back, lost it, got it back,

920
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: lost the goud. It's a it's a normal thing to me, pandemic.

921
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm always on pandemic mode. But I'm not. I'm not

922
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: and I'm out a rich woman, and I say we

923
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: need to use our boat, you know, for leverage into

924
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: the man. More So, what do you say when they say, well, Willie,

925
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: you got money. If Trump's saying four more years, it

926
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: doesn't affect you. And I will say to people with this,

927
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: because you're already straight, you really have no reason to

928
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: fight for poor people. Why would you if you're straight?

929
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: What what's your point? What do you get out of

930
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: fighting for poor people? Like? Make that make sense? So

931
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: when they ask you, when they say you have money, Willy,

932
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: you can afford for for Trump to be in former years.

933
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm middle class. I can't afford for Trump to be

934
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: in former years, So I can't afford to hold my boat.

935
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: How do you speak to that? Because my question is, well,

936
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: when do we ever hold this ship? Then? When does

937
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: the negotiation never? Because if if Democrats want Trump out

938
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: so bad, don't you think that this will be the time,

939
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: if and if there was any time for them to negotiate.

940
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: If not now, if they want amount so bad, what's

941
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: your answer to that? Every four years, it's the same

942
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: thing every four Every four years, we get the same story.

943
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: It's the fear fear factor. It's the fear man man,

944
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: we gotta get, got got we gonna do. We're gonna

945
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: getta kills. They're gonna put it back and sleep every

946
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: four years. Every four years, it's the same story. I

947
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: would say to them, maybe maybe I can maybe I

948
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: can tell a little story that that that could perhaps

949
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: persuade them, get a get a bird's eye view on

950
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: how I see it. Right. So, imagine you have a child.

951
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Your child goes to school and because the teacher fight

952
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: every day, don't do his or her homework, come home,

953
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: cuss you out, don't do chores, throw wild parties when

954
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: you leave a house, and you still allow them to

955
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: go to the party on the weekend. What is the

956
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: incentive for them to change? There is none. So if Biden,

957
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: if we're gonna just give, if we're gonna continue to

958
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: not get anything, I mean something drastic, and we're not

959
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: gonna continue, we're gonna continue to not get anything for

960
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: our vote, then we mass we'll hold it until it's respected. Okay.

961
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: So it's like if if if a dude is is

962
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: having uh sexual relations with a woman and he ain't

963
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: got to invest in that woman, if he ain't got

964
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: to court her, take her out, do something nice for

965
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: every night and then maybe buy a nice little gift

966
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: or something. If he can just come in and he

967
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: didn't quit and be gone he's gonna keep coming in

968
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: the center. That's what is then CENTI for him to

969
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: do anything. What is the incentive for him to take

970
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: you out? What is the incentive for him to buy

971
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: you something nice or you know, maybe you're struggling financially

972
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: and he got a boatload of money. What is the

973
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: incentive for him to help you out with the rent

974
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: or a light bill? There is none because he getting

975
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: it anyway. You know, It's like it's like almost have Daton,

976
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 1: a dude who owns a car dealership and you're riding

977
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: to Blessed. I'll talk about that man. Black folks are

978
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: riding the bus and the Democrats owned the dealership. They

979
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: got a cold car dealership, as black folks are walking

980
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: and riding the bus. Right, that makes absolutely no sense.

981
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: Ain't no way I would be dating a woman who

982
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: owns a dealership and I'm riding the bus or walking.

983
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, I can do bad by myself, So we

984
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: can do bad all by ourselves. If we held that block,

985
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: If we held that block, maybe they say, well, we

986
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: know what We're gonna do what we want to do anywhere.

987
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, even if we held our vote,

988
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: in which I think the record number of black people

989
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: are gonna hold their vote this time around. I think

990
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: Biden is gonna win anyway, because it is very difficult

991
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: to uh for in comment, to win an election Farres Square,

992
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: I gotta say, Barrett Square, to win an election ship

993
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: when there is civil unrest and that's a bad economy,

994
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: you might be able to get by with one, but

995
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: not both. You got a bad economy and you got

996
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: civil unrest. No president in the history of American politics

997
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: has been able to get reelected when the economy was

998
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: bad and you had civil unrest. So and I tell people,

999
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Trump when uh and but

1000
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: he would have to cheat. You would have to cheat. Yeah,

1001
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: but he cheated first, but he cheated once. He cheated

1002
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: wants so you can cheat again. So that's yeah, we're

1003
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: talking about We're talking about gamester ship. So yeah, yeah, exactly,

1004
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: whether you cheat, whatever it is, I wouldn't be surprised.

1005
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because I

1006
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: do not see strategy on the Democrats side. This playing

1007
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: your bold campaign, that they're doing this absentee ballance ship

1008
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. I feel if if you're

1009
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: a senior and you're disabled and you can't get to

1010
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: the polls, get an absentee. But it really should be

1011
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: pushing everybody to the polls, just like you go to Walmart, Cvs,

1012
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: everything else. Crawl over glass, wear a mask. When I

1013
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: look at how they're riding over there for Trump, and

1014
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: I look at the eight swing states that they're focused on,

1015
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: and we're not even talking about that. We're not even

1016
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: making sure that the small percent of black people don't

1017
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: know it's eight swing states get to the polls. And

1018
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: when we look at all the tricks in the bag,

1019
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: like Florida and the last minute move they pulled on

1020
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: felons giving them the right to vote, and now they

1021
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: have to pay fees in order to vote. What you know,

1022
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna do and know for a certainly anybody

1023
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna show up to risk going to jail for it.

1024
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: So when I look up our lack of strategy, I

1025
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: say that even with those two things in place, I

1026
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: would still would not be surprised if Trump win because

1027
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: we just simply don't have the strategy. If I asked

1028
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: him people on the street, what is Biden's campaign slope?

1029
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: How many people know? People don't even know what it is.

1030
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: They don't know if it's the soul of America strongly together,

1031
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: you don't know what it is. If I ask those

1032
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: same him people what is Trump's slogan, every single one

1033
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: of them, whether they hate them or not, know that

1034
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: it's what make America great again. There is terrible branding

1035
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: on our side. There's no synergy. Why would you be

1036
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: hoping You're expecting a disenfranchise group that already don't vote,

1037
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: already don't go election day, and now you're asking them

1038
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: to go online order an absentee. You're hoping that it

1039
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: gets to them on time. You're hoping that they put

1040
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: it in the mail on time. You're hoping it's postmark

1041
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: on time. You're hoping to get to the supervisor elections,

1042
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: get there in the first place and on time. And

1043
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about fraud. I'm talking about the

1044
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: fact that two hundred thousand absentee ballots in North Carolina

1045
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: just came back undeliverable. Not fraud, just wrong addresses. Then

1046
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: you're hoping that it actually gets counted. How the hell

1047
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: you know over get count It's not like you get

1048
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: a return receipt that says, yes, we've counted your vote,

1049
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, so you're hoping all of those things from

1050
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: well bodied, able Americans that can get their ass up

1051
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: and go to the post. So I have to wonder,

1052
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: why are you're putting some money into into this absentee thing.

1053
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: And that's where the argument I'm being objective, that's where

1054
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: the argument comes from. Republican side would know it's Democrats

1055
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: trying to cheat, and Trump is already saying we yeah,

1056
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna be cheat. And you have to wonder why

1057
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: are y'all doing that? Democrats? Are you planning on making

1058
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: a move? If so, okay, cool, but it doesn't make

1059
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: sense to me. Or are you trying to give this

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00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: election to Trump? What are you doing why? It's I

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00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: don't understand why that would be the strategy. If it's

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00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: so important to get people to the post. You're going

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00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: to Walmart, You're going to CVS. Every election polls not

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00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: this idea of waiting in line over two and three hours.

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00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: Some of them are like to a lot of the

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Speaker 1: college campuses. But guess what, the kids are not even

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00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: at the college campuses. Most of the college is there

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00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: at home, So why are they not pushing go vote early?

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00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: Go in person. If you can our head waiting the

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00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: line like you do for everything else, it just doesn't

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00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: make from an operative standpoint. It makes me feel that

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00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: something is fishy. And I believe that it's on both

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00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: sides of the Democrats and the Republicans because there just

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00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: hasn't been any synergy across the board. Democrats, come on, well,

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00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: maybe that's what it is. Tell me something, Tell me something,

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00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, because it gotta be, because it just makes

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00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: no sense. It makes no sense, and maybe they are

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00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: gonna do it, but I'd rather you just say straight up,

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal this ship. I mean, I only understand

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00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: straight up. Case I don't. I don't understand talking because

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: Trump said straight up, I may have may not turn

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00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: over the power just to deal when you see how

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00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: I go. I'm looking for that. I'm looking. I wish

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00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: like hill like if that happened and he actually got

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00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: kicked out of office, like if he lost, I wish

1086
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: like hell, that was some kind of way I could

1087
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: get the call to be the guy to take him

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00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: my office. I swear my god, I run up in

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00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: that drag his ass, I butt, not like you get

1090
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: your dragged that spanick your pumpets kick him out in

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00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: his ass. I like you, you're gonna be going up

1092
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: to the pan like get out of here. You know.

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00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: I wish, like hell, I could get that job and

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00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: you we don't want you go into the pin because

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00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: you damn something. You're gonna know what I'm saying. I

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00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't if I had to, didn't if I got here,

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00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: if I got the authority from the government, if the

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00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: governor told me, a man, look, it's your job with

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00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: the d Look gone in there, man going going there

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: with all of the power to ancestors. I like to man, Yeah,

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00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: I wish they would give me the job to remove them.

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Speaker 1: I would remove them free of charge, and I would

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Speaker 1: do this for the AA. Well, I appreciate having you today.

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00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was important because a lot of folks

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00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: that follow you, they hear you talking about Trump and

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00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: hear you also pushing Democrats, and that's a hard message

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00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: for people to They can't understand how to both. Can

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00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 1: you can still believe both and still have a mind

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00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: for our people. So I wanted to have an extended

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Speaker 1: conversation with you. I know you interview a lot of folks,

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00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: but it was important to me for you to be interviewed,

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, to tell your story and how important it is.

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00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Throughout this next three days, I'll be interviewing folks on

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00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: the Republican side, Democrats side, both both sides, just so

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: people can, you know, make their own decision. I don't

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: tell people how to move, how to vote. What I

1117
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: say is I'm offin it. My record is what it is.

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00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: I've been fighting for black folks period, you know, since

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00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: I've been on the microphone, and I've been offered that

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00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: same bag that have been offered to other people to say, hey,

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: why don't you come over here and rock with the US,

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00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: And just like you, I decided to say no, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna commit to myself and commit to my voice first.

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00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: And because of this opportunity of Black Effect Podcast, I

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00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to have extended conversations from what people

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00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: may not see on Fox News. People see me three

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00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: or four minutes on Fox News and they think because

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00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm challenging Democrats that I'm shipping on my people. That

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: will never happen publicly private. I fall for black people

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00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: on Fox News and will continue to. And then when

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00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: people follow me Willie like Fox News views, they follow me.

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00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: They think, oh, yeah, she's like whoever in these conservative spaces.

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00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: But then when they follow me and they see that

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00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: ain't really what it is. I'm assisted for real, they

1135
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: unfollowed me, and so I really wanted an opportunity here

1136
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: to be able to have these longer form conversations to

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: really get an idea, because like you, similar to you,

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00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: I sit down and having me with anybody anything, because

1139
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: you're not gonna move me one way or the other.

1140
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: I know the pimp game, so I know how I go,

1141
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: I know where I stand. But I think these conversations

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00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: are important. So I appreciate having you today. Is there

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00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: anything else you want people to know on anything upcoming

1144
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: you're working on? And I know about the Willie d Show,

1145
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: but if you can let them know about the WILLI Show,

1146
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: where they can find you, and anything you want to

1147
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: say before we get out of here. The main takeaway

1148
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: is that the voter is for sale. My soul is not.

1149
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: You did so that that's where I'm at with it.

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01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: You know, like, I'm not going to I'm not going

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01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: to be silent for somebody else to be comfortable, especially

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01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: someone who is uh is benefiting from oppression for my

1153
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: people especially, I'm not going to be silent for you

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01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: to be comfortable. I have white business associates, I got

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01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: white friends, like real white friends who wrote for me

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01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: when I was locked up and when my own family

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01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: members did so. But I'm not gonna be silent for

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01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: them to be comfortable. Like, we're going through a lot

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01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: of ships in this country right now, you know, people

1160
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: are I mean, you get black people that getting killed

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01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: when they're sleeping. You get black people get killed when

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01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: they're sitting on the couch eating ice cream and the

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: privacy of their own home. Get black people getting killed

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01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: playing with toys in the parking, black people walking home

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01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: from the store, getting killed, sitting in your card to park,

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: all kinds of ways they may just existing black people

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01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: getting killed. And you think I'm gonna be signent for

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01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: you to be comfortable. You can kick rocks if you

1169
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: can't understand that, if you don't have any empathy for

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01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: what we're going through, man, you can kick rocks. And

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01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: that goes from my fans also, because we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of white fans, a whole lot. We have more

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: white fans actually than we have any other type. That's right,

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01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: because that's what's buying hip hop, that's right. Yeah, But

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01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: but if they don't understand that I'm that I'm gonna

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01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: ride for my people. If they don't understand about all

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01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: of these these and trocities going on and that I

1178
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: need to speak on this. Hey man, they can kick rocks.

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01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: In fact, they can kick rocks and things speaking on it.

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01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: How about that? So yeah, that's that's why I'm at

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: with it. You know. As far as finding me, I'm

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01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: on Willie THEE live on across all platforms, so I

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01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: ain't hard to find you know what. Well, man, I

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01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: appreciate you use your platform. I'm just scrolling through your

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01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: your Instagram and I mean you you own it. Every

1186
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: day you you could be talking about so many different things. Well,

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: so I just want to say appreciative to the from

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01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: the bottom of my heart, not only just what you're

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01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: doing now, but what you've done in music and hip

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01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: hop and shaping the ghetto boys. And I'm saying this

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: from my my West Coast friends. Was the only thing

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01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: that they really rocked in the West that that had

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01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: the same type of love. Matter of fact, Scarface, I

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: plugged him with a friend of mine when he was

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01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: paralyzed and he was in the hospital and he made

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Speaker 1: a phone call to him and just really changed his

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Speaker 1: life because they rocked that hard in the West and

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01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: it was very few songs. Are very few Southern groups,

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Speaker 1: you remember, because back then it was all about East, West, South,

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01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, pick a side, you know who wasn't really

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01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: a lot of mix. And what you guys have done

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01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: has been able to transcend so many different you know,

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01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: like you said, races, backgrounds, regions, east coast, west coast,

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01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: and in the South. And so I hope that are

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01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: what I can I don't have to hope. What I

1206
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: can see is you're able to make those same transitions

1207
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: in the political space. And that's really what it's about.

1208
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: Being on the microphone just as you was then now

1209
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: but and still telling a story. You can wrap about

1210
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: it or you can talk about it, but regardless, you

1211
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: have still been purposed for this time and this season

1212
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: to tell a story. And God has his hand on you.

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01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: And even though we're custom prophets and street prophets and

1214
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: all of that, the only way you can move through

1215
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: this space and move authentically is to know that your

1216
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: creator has you here for something bigger. And those who

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01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: don't get that never will. And as you, I am

1218
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: not one to beg folks to get it. You can

1219
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: just keep it moving. Like I always say, allies are good,

1220
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: but soldiers are better because allies can flip on you

1221
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: at any moment. One minute you win me, next minute

1222
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: you're not. Allies that get you killed, and they can

1223
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: get you in jail because they're the first one is telling.

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01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: So I appreciate allies, but it ain't nothing like a

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01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: frontline soldier. It's ready to rock, ready to fire, and

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01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: ready to die for what they believe in. So I

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Speaker 1: want to thank you again for being a frontline soldier

1228
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: in this movement, willing to put it all on the

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01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: line with everything to lose and every but everything to give.

1230
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: And so I appreciate you, King. We love you. We

1231
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: love you as black men. Maybe I can have you

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01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: come back later on after election season. We can talk

1233
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: about relationships and some other fun stuff I want to

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: get it. I want to get into. But right now,

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01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: thank you for lending your voices in this political season.

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: As those who are listening again, please follow Willie de

1237
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: listen to what he has to say. You know him.

1238
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: But if you have not linked in with Willie Dee

1239
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube. Please do and listen to

1240
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: what this brother has to say, even if you disagree,

1241
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: and even if you don't like it, and like I

1242
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: always say, you may not have liked this message, but

1243
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: your damn show's gonna respected at the end of the day.

1244
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 1: I always say, use it, lose it, But I can't

1245
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 1: make you choose it. But on November three, you will

1246
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: have to make a choice, and I ask people to vote.

1247
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: You're conscious and if you decide to hold your vote,

1248
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: what's your next move after that? If you decide to

1249
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: vote for the bite, and if you're going for the

1250
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: lesser the two evils, what's your next move after that?

1251
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: The work continues on November four, not just November. If

1252
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: you like what you heard on Straight Shot No Chaser,

1253
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: please subscribe and drop a five star review and tell

1254
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: a friend. Straight Shot No Chaser is a production of

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01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: the Black Effect podcast Networking, I Heart Radio, Testament Figure Out,

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: and I'd like to thank our producer editor Mixer, the

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: one and only Marcy Depina and our executive producer Charlemagne

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01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: the Good for More podcast from I Heart Radio, visit

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01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts,