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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas and

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Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencam band.

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Speaker 1: And Tama Judge. Today we have a very special guest.

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Speaker 2: Very special guest, high school buddy my no like from

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Speaker 2: fourth grade on, even though you said he was my age,

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Speaker 2: which was a real dick move because he's two years older.

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Speaker 2: But we have Shepherd Rose. Shep is fresh from his

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Speaker 2: spiritual journey in Costa Rica and continues to work on

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Speaker 2: his inner piece and is determined to make real growth.

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Speaker 2: The newfound perspective has given Shep an open heart and

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Speaker 2: an eternal bachelor has fallen head over heels for new

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Speaker 2: flame former Ms Bahamas. But we have to dig into

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Speaker 2: this because I heard that that maybe this bar I'm

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Speaker 2: so I think this by I was not up to date. Yep,

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Speaker 2: let's bring him in. Hey, yep, I hate for you

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Speaker 2: to like sit up straight or like look like you

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Speaker 2: gave two ships about.

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Speaker 3: Me, Like I don't like you're the one that switched

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Speaker 3: the top or I guess I switched the times too.

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Speaker 3: It's been a hectic week.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm nesting right now. So I'm all over the place.

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Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of a ship storm around here.

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Speaker 1: Has no idea what that means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's never kept a relationship for more than

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Speaker 2: a year out of the game two and a half.

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Speaker 2: But how many times did you cheat on her?

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Speaker 3: What does that have to do with anything?

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Speaker 2: She knows?

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Speaker 3: Of four who said that?

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Speaker 2: Taylor?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, isn't that like so to you know?

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Speaker 3: She should know because I mean my phone was gone

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Speaker 3: through several times. Let's just put it that way.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll start on more positive things about other people

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Speaker 2: and then dig into you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a liar.

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Speaker 2: I love Craig, And if I had to pick somebody

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Speaker 2: that I would be interested in from your show, it

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Speaker 2: would be Craig.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean Teddy. I don't see you guys clicking.

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Speaker 3: I'm kidding. Oh, he he's just he's I mean, what

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Speaker 3: what how we all fell in love with Craig or

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Speaker 3: you know, the audience was his fallibility and his like silliness,

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Speaker 3: and he'd laugh at himself and and it's all just

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Speaker 3: it's so it's so miniscule. It's like a tiny little dumb,

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Speaker 3: pointless stretches of the truth sometimes, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: And he's gotten better. But yeah, I mean it's not

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Speaker 3: it's not like worth having a tribunal over who do you.

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Speaker 2: Think lies more, Craig or Austin.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Austin doesn't tell anybody anything, so.

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Speaker 2: Lying just withholding the truth truth sometimes.

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Speaker 3: But he's very close to the vest. But he wants

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Speaker 3: to hear what you have to say, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's a big gossiper. You know. Even his

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Speaker 3: his girlfriends were like, he's like like a girl sitting

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Speaker 3: in a hair salon. If you give him the chance.

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Speaker 2: I like him.

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Speaker 1: Can you shed some light? Teddy said that you guys

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Speaker 1: went to school together.

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Speaker 2: Hm, thanks, we hooked up?

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Speaker 3: Can you? I did not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. Can you just tell us a

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Speaker 1: little bit about.

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Speaker 3: Kiss wants Teddy? Oh, okay, we definitely do.

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Speaker 2: Further than you were always crying to me about Jenny Sonfield.

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Speaker 2: We were never or Julienne or Julianne Weissak And then

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Speaker 2: you were, but you were a nice guy. Then you

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Speaker 2: weren't a player.

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Speaker 3: Then no I was. I wasn't. I did not have

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of confidence in the female world. I

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Speaker 3: mean I was just like, I was really into sports, remember,

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Speaker 3: Like I didn't care about holding hands or kissing and stuff.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to play basketball.

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Speaker 1: I was Teddy back then. Do you remember she.

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Speaker 3: Was over confident?

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Speaker 1: Oh so nothing's changed.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding. I mean she was a year younger,

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, chef, Hold are you forty four five?

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Speaker 1: Oh you're forty five? Okay, you were right. She said

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Speaker 1: you were two years older, and I said.

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Speaker 2: I think yes, I was in ninth grade when he

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Speaker 2: was in eleventh grade. Well you were, you were staying

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Speaker 1: But this is how Teddy, weren't you held back?

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Speaker 2: No, I barely graduated. I took an ECCE, never went

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Speaker 3: Teddy, Teddy was great. But like that's the thing, like

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Speaker 3: you were definitely having fun and Teddy, you know, Teddy

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Speaker 3: had that amazing house and pretty loose rules over at

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Speaker 3: and we all lived in generally the same area, so

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Speaker 3: we just ride our bikes over to each other's house.

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Speaker 3: And have all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Shep had the thing I remember the most

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Speaker 2: about Shep is all year long. He him and his

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Speaker 2: brother Whittaker and Katie, like, they would have this Christmas

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Speaker 2: party and right down the list of people who could come.

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Speaker 2: Every year we'd all be like, I own of Shep Party.

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Speaker 3: You were always invited, and you know it.

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Speaker 2: I know there were subparties. I didn't get invite you,

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Speaker 2: but I always got to invite it. Cheers.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there was a Christmas party, whether they you said,

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Speaker 3: like my dad would play Santa and the younger kids

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Speaker 3: would come and they'd give them gifts and there was

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Speaker 1: Teddy, did your dad allow you to have parties at

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Speaker 1: the house?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. No, I lived with my mom.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but remember that one time Teddy called me.

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Speaker 3: It was like my dad's in town and he wants

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Speaker 3: to play football on the beach, gather up some guys.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'll be right there.

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Speaker 4: Did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah, absolutely. And then there's that time

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Speaker 3: where we all the we were in pe class sitting

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Speaker 3: And then your your your dad's uh. Then new wife

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Speaker 3: I mean the guys were like, all.

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Speaker 2: Of y'all took a ship like she was a supermodel.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen year old supermodel walks in and all my guy

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Speaker 3: Nobody had set foot in the hill Ned Prep gym.

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Speaker 5: Quite like, oh my god, well I heard, we heard

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Speaker 5: you broke up with your girlfriends Sanna.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, it wasn't like that. What.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Before we get into the breakup, I need to

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Speaker 2: talk about the awkward scene. I never have seen you

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Speaker 1: Wanning Kitty, You're giddy.

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Speaker 2: You were giddy, but you also like were like I'll come,

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Speaker 2: like if you want me to come, like you were falling.

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Speaker 1: Hard for her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was over. Let's call it six months.

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Speaker 3: She came to Charleston first, and then and then I

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Speaker 3: and and then we then I went down to the

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Speaker 2: Did you know what did you do?

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Speaker 3: I didn't do anything. No, no, no, I'll tell you exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I bought her her flight to Hilton Head and

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Speaker 3: had fun. Bahamas was amazing, and uh, I mean you know,

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Speaker 3: Two hours there, two hours back, so it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: And the friend was like, I got my flight. I

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Speaker 3: it up. And then after the weekend I said something

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Speaker 2: Hey, I got how shitty of a way? Did you

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Speaker 3: No? No, no, I said, I really need to get this

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Speaker 3: off my chest. By the way, great job, great time

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Speaker 3: I was like, I just don't appreciate the way that

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Speaker 3: don't have to meet me even halfway. Just meet me

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Speaker 3: somewhere in the middle or near the in the Bell

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Speaker 3: curve somewhere, because I'm not a desperate man who's flying

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Speaker 3: of I bragged to my family and friends how successful

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Speaker 3: and entrepreneurial you are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You even Jade and Taylor talking about how successful

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Speaker 3: Not, like, I know, I didn't mean to say it

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Speaker 3: let me kind of be provocative. Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Very No, No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Would never know such a thing because she's an angel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, people off anyway. So so I did say

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Speaker 3: so I said that, and she was indignant. She was

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Speaker 3: like where I come from, you know, the man takes

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Speaker 3: care of everything. I was like, would you how about

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Speaker 3: or would you tell them that, hey, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 3: Man takes care of everything. That's a bad thing to

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I have nothing but wonderful

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Speaker 3: with us in Lynville, all dressed up and hugging each

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Speaker 3: And then we got back together. We went out west.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a job. You think i'd have a boss? Crazy?

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Speaker 3: I invest in things and different. I've got a lot

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Speaker 3: I'm writing a book about it. I've already written thirty

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Speaker 3: One? And fifty. So the name of it teddy like

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Speaker 2: Anyhow, So I went wore a shirt that had whiskey

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Speaker 2: No, he's already drinking on the show this season.

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Speaker 3: You know, try no.

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Speaker 2: So I was living Keith Richard, I love you compare

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Speaker 3: I thought I was. I thought it was a rock star.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and Taylor used to say that to me.

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Speaker 3: I Ahuaska. Yeah, And so they said you take two cups,

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Speaker 3: take another cup. So the fourth after my fourth cup,

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Speaker 2: Mattress.

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Speaker 3: must I all licked the jar like Winnie the Pew

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, that's what what is with two different Bravo

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Speaker 3: Good for him, good for him?

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Speaker 2: Do you think it made you better? Anyways?

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Speaker 3: It made me better? And what it did, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the book. But one thing, one huge takeaway. There was

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Speaker 3: I was like, do you want to share? And she said, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I get goosebumps even times, and so that was so

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Speaker 1: Would you do it again?

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Speaker 2: What stupid things did you do?

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Speaker 3: Just drinking? You know? I was out in Nashville and

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Speaker 2: What about this how you said? And you're confessional that

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Speaker 2: that was while ago, and was it's like now jout.

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Speaker 3: I don't care about it. I didn't read what she said.

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Speaker 3: No, it's none of my business. When everybody else says,

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Speaker 1: But the fact do you consider yourself friends with Taylor?

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Speaker 3: No? I mean that's not my choice, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Why did you what's the chick's name that had sex

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Speaker 3: Sally?

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that we needed to see her. I

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Speaker 2: We are?

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Speaker 3: And I mean, look, you know if you I raised

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Speaker 2: So Sally's or tailor Taylor.

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Speaker 3: They connected me to these great charities and people that

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Speaker 3: to get back together? Absolutely not. That's absurd. Was that?

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Speaker 3: H Did I think that a year and a half ago? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: things change.

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Speaker 2: Is ghost Dawn a cheater? Because that's what Sally's making

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Speaker 3: I don't know him. I don't know him. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: Are they still together together?

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Speaker 3: Right? I guess? So? Yeah, Yeah, we.

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Speaker 1: Have the fan questions asking do you still speak to Thomas, Catherine,

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Speaker 3: I talked to Cam, and I love Chill See to death.

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Speaker 3: One? And she and I were supposed to go to

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00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 3: the South Carolina Bigfoot Festival because we both are obsessed

442
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: with Bigfoot, and I ended up Whitney and I ended

443
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: up going. We brought cameras. It's gonna be hilarious.

444
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: Whitney is giving me a little bit of the eck

445
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: the way he said that to Molly about the cup

446
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: about eating.

447
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were.

448
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 2: Nice to her in that moment, but like that's kind

449
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 2: of is Whitney trying to be funny when he does

450
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: that stuff.

451
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: That's who Whitney is. He's absolutely inappropriate at all times.

452
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 3: Like I've seen him just I'm like, did you just

453
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: say that? Like he has no filter? And or he

454
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: you know, and he just and he and Molly have

455
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: a long history.

456
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: And does Whitney thinks that like his ship doesn't stink,

457
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: Like I can't even imagine out the supermodel girl.

458
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: Are you shaking your leg?

459
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're always shaking your leg always, always Why burning cows?

460
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: You have nervous energy all the time, burning cows.

461
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: Uh, I can't stop. My My whole mom's side of

462
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: the family shakes their leg. My uncle, my grandfather did, yeah.

463
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: Adhd, my mom does too. My brother drives me crazy,

464
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: the tapping, tapping on things or shaking. I'm like, stop, yeah.

465
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 2: It's it's yeah.

466
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

467
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: She gets really upset if she hears me chew.

468
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh I can't. I got that thing. Or I don't

469
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: want to hear anybody chewing or slurping, or.

470
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: Then don't do ayahuasca because you have to hear them. Barf.

471
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: Oh, so you're so out of it. I don't think

472
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: you even really even acknowledge that.

473
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fascinating. If you have any sort of

474
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: sort of things you want to be introspective about, I

475
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: would I'd recommend looking into it. I'm sure in La

476
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: you can do it. Like there's tons of people.

477
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: And there's absolutely no way I could do ayahuasca. I

478
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: do not like to feel out of control. I like

479
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: to throw up.

480
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: And you used to do mushrooms with us, Teddy all

481
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: the time.

482
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: You guys could do the mushroom tea. I never did it.

483
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: Only one time. I did a water bowl and I

484
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 2: threw up everywhere and that was at the end of it.

485
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: I did mushrooms once in Vegas. Is the worst experience

486
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: of my life.

487
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a drug goal.

488
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: And we talked about who you hooked up with out

489
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: of our out of our friend group.

490
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 4: Yes, can we play it, yes, Scott yes, Cayley, yes,

491
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 4: if you have to think about it.

492
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 3: Car Mines what car Well, we know that you did

493
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: with with Constable that summer. You had a thing for him.

494
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: He remember my friend he is?

495
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: What is with these names?

496
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: Was he long hair?

497
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: No? He was like a mountain man.

498
00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: He was like, uh, I like Constable. No, but you're

499
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: missing the main one.

500
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: Weird seraate Nick Rose? Nick Rose, Yeah, he was a

501
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 3: popular guy.

502
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: Welcome to my childhood.

503
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty damn good. So here's my I

504
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: had this wonderful epiphany, Teddy. On the last night it was.

505
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: It was I was on Ayhuasca and I had just

506
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: visions of my childhood, my mom making pancakes, me and

507
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: Whittaker hiding behind the couch while my sister got picked

508
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: up for her first prom. My dad and my brother

509
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: and I driving to t ball practice, me and Carmen's

510
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: riding our bikes through Palmetto Dunes to the mall and

511
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: and just all this beautiful stuff. And I just started bawling,

512
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: crying because how beautiful our childhoods were. You know, it

513
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 3: was like a dream, it really was.

514
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: Don't you think, well, you could have that same dream

515
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: if you are you going to settle down and get

516
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: married and have kids. I want a job with little Craig.

517
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: I want to.

518
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: I think, Craig is you can just start dating Teddy,

519
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: bring her on over to Southern charm and she's already

520
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: got built built in family.

521
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: After hearing how shep is in bed, I'm good.

522
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you want to clear that up?

523
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: Who said that?

524
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: Gu's who said that? Sour grapes? I mean, that's what,

525
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: you know what, that's what that's funny because I was like, okay,

526
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: first of all, tacky as hell, Like I would never

527
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: comment on anybody in bed on national television. That's just

528
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: like beyond the pale. But that's how I was, you know,

529
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: that's how I am. My. I mean, my mom and

530
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: dad would never allow they would they would faint if

531
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: I started talking that way. But but it reminded me

532
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: of when Dwayne Wade and some of these NBA guys

533
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 3: divorced their first wives. They like totally tried to poison

534
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: the water for the next They were like, yeah, he's

535
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: got herpes. Oh my god, remember all that? Yeah, exactly,

536
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was like, because that's ridiculous. And

537
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: I don't really care what she I mean, she she

538
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: wanted me to ask her to marry her, so I

539
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: guess I was doing.

540
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I don't mind that. Yes, you're angry

541
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: and annoyed about the things that she said and done,

542
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: but you can't angry not angry. What your defensive slightly.

543
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: Well, you brought it up, but.

544
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah I did bring it up. But my point is

545
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: there is a part of you that still really cares

546
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: about her.

547
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: And I know that one hundred percent. And I care

548
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: about her family and I used to think about her

549
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: all the time, like I want all the best for her,

550
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: I want all these good things to happen to her.

551
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: And you know, what can I do? How can I

552
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: help in any way? But I'm I'm sort of an alien.

553
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: I guess do you think.

554
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: It's because you're so close to her family.

555
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and her man, Like, when I met her, you know,

556
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: she had hadn't really been I took her in California

557
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: for the first time, Mexico for the first time, Europe

558
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: for the first time. I was like, and I was

559
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: happy to do it, very happy, because I love being

560
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: tour guide.

561
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: You loved giving her those experiences.

562
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to see her grow and blossom, and

563
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: I think she still can't.

564
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: You can't say that. You can't say I want to

565
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: see her growing blossom.

566
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: Well she did, she did when we when we were together,

567
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 3: but I definitely put her through some bullshit. I'm not

568
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: gonna deny that. And when I look back, especially these days,

569
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: I literally have like I'm like, oh my god, I

570
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: can't believe that time where I did this or you know,

571
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: and I mean I could. There's just like a hundred

572
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: little things where it was just uncool and bad and

573
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: and uh just took it for granted her her absolute

574
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: love and affection for me.

575
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: Are you dating anyone now?

576
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: No, I can't seem to find anybody.

577
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: You know, ran out of the girls in Charleston.

578
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you won't. That's not the car. But yeah,

579
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: I mean I I, Well, the thing with Sienna is

580
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: that I felt very strongly and I've may be over

581
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: and that's and I was so surprised five years old,

582
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: Chep twenty six. I was so shocked that I felt

583
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: so strongly about someone so soon after after Taylor and

584
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: I his breakup, because typically she was Miss Bahamas.

585
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure I would feel twenty six. He's twenty six

586
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: from Miss Bahamas and like itching to get on television

587
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: and be with Shep the Playboy, like you knew what

588
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: was coming.

589
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: I liked it. Yeah, not when it comes.

590
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: To how did you even meet her?

591
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: Girls?

592
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: Rayah oh oh yeah, yeah, I've scrolled through. Riot doesn't

593
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: look like a place for me.

594
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm sort of obsessed with it. I

595
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: need to relax because.

596
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: It's just like the profile picture.

597
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: Girls are just so gorgeous on it. I'm like, oh

598
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: my god.

599
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: Well, you have to go through a process, you have

600
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: to audition to get in.

601
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: I was there early. I've had a lot of fun.

602
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: You men just have to have a certain amount of money.

603
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: Women have to look a certain way. Yeah, I mean,

604
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: I know the quality of people you're going to get

605
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: from Ryant.

606
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: I know Matthew Perry was on it when he oh.

607
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah he dated everybody.

608
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyways, yeah, and I just look, you know me, Teddy,

609
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: give me a little bit of credit. I mean, Sienna,

610
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: I would not fall for somebody who had didn't have

611
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: any substance like we. She was a very interesting girl

612
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: and I really liked talking to her and spending time

613
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: with her, and we had a lot of very lovely,

614
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: tender moments. And it was not for nothing. I mean,

615
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: don't believe everything you see on TV, you know what

616
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: I mean.

617
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: No, I will give you credit. You're I think you

618
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: have a good heart, and you're a good person, and

619
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: you're good at reading people. Just sometimes you know, like us,

620
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: all you make dumb mistakes.

621
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: Blinded by the Bahamas. That should be my next book.

622
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: But you still never sent me your last book.

623
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: So I'll send you both of them.

624
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're proud of you ship. We hope

625
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: that we see things play out through the season. We're

626
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: enjoying recapping it.

627
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: One last question. Do you think Page and Craig you're

628
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: going to get married?

629
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I think I know that

630
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: he wanted to, and I think she's like super career oriented.

631
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's sort of that is a tale as

632
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: old as time, either on the woman or the man's side.

633
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 3: So I just don't know enough. And you know, I

634
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: love Page, but we haven't sat down and had a

635
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: cup of coffee. I mean, I just I think she's

636
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: a lot of fun and I would like to banter

637
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: with her more.

638
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: Frankly, thank you so much.

639
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

640
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: We're loving the show. I'm actually going back watching like

641
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: season one going through. I've been sick for like two weeks.

642
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: I've been like in bed watching season one season two.

643
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I loved. I did it in Boston recently

644
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: and they had like six TVs all playing different seasons

645
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: of our show in the room, and I was like,

646
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: my head was on a swim. I was like, no way,

647
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: I remember that. Holy hell, so pretty cool.

648
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: Craig is the one that is like changed the most.

649
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: He was like a little, tiny, skinny little boy. I'm like,

650
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: I know he was.

651
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he's honest about that. He was like I

652
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: was addicted to adderall and he wasn't eating.

653
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 5: You know, Oh well that'll do it.

654
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: But he looks great now.

655
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: That helps you.

656
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: Talk that helps you talk on the show.

657
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean that's I love that sort of honesty,

658
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: and that's what I tried to do, right talking openly

659
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: in the you know, in the reunion last year and

660
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: then this season, I like my my Navy seal friend

661
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: who I did ayahuasca with said, chep vulner Vulnerability is

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Speaker 3: the new masculinity, and I was like, I love that,

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Speaker 3: and that's how that's the sign of confidence. If you

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Speaker 3: if you share your struggle one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Percent, we are enjoying you.

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Speaker 2: Love you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you much, success, and I can't wait to watch

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. And thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure anything for y'all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Chepye, Bye bye,