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Speaker 1: and segment two Who's better? Johnny? Who's better? Are you

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Speaker 1: because of how they move in the pocket. You know,

425
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Speaker 1: Kyle Trask is a guy that doesn't do that. Now,

426
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Speaker 1: He's got all the armed talent in the world. He

427
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Speaker 1: can do anything a quarterback can do other than make

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Speaker 1: people missing the pocket, make up for an offensive line

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Speaker 1: that may not be great, and that's what Elway would

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Speaker 1: have done. Elway in the two thousands two starting, I

431
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Speaker 1: don't know, mid two thousand and two thousand and ten. Hey,

432
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Speaker 1: if he were in the quarterback in these offenses, good Greek.

433
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine John Elway in the Philadelphia Eagles offense

434
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Speaker 1: with a bunch of RPOs and those kind of things.

435
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Speaker 1: Oh man, it would have been on Now Marino. You

436
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Speaker 1: put Marino in a New England Patriots offense, boy fifth

437
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Speaker 1: hand in glove. But I just think the game is

438
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Speaker 1: moving more towards what Elway would have been. So I'll

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Speaker 1: take Elway today. You asked me this question twenty years ago,

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Speaker 1: I just said, no, no, I'll take Marino. You mean

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Speaker 1: twenty five yeah, yeah, So well, twenty years ago I

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Speaker 1: was coaching, I would have taken well, you know what,

443
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Speaker 1: I would have wanted Lway too, because that's really when

444
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Speaker 1: the running quarterback to me, or the quarterback running was

445
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Speaker 1: a weapon in your offense. That's when it started from me.

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Speaker 1: So I answer, you're right, probably twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 1: I probably take Marino. People don't remember, I mean, I

448
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Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. A lot of you do, but a

449
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: lot of people don't recall, or maybe you're just too

450
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Speaker 1: young who have seen Elway play in the eighties, but

451
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Speaker 1: he was so fantastic. Now, Marino put up ungodly numbers.

452
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Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time, how he put

453
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Speaker 1: up numbers that would fit in with today's quarterbacks, which

454
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Speaker 1: is yes. It shows you how effective he was throwing

455
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Speaker 1: the football those offenses. And I credit Don Shula, who

456
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Speaker 1: obviously recently passed with being able to build his offense

457
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Speaker 1: around Marino after coming from David Woodley. You know, all right,

458
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Speaker 1: I recorded that San Diego Miami forty one thirty eight

459
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Speaker 1: overtime AFC Divisional Round game in the NFL network was

460
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Speaker 1: running NFL's Greatest Games. They actually mislabeled it on the

461
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Speaker 1: channel guide it said AFC Championship nineteen eighty one. It

462
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Speaker 1: wasn't a championship game. He was a divisional round game.

463
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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, they're gonna run the

464
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Speaker 1: AFC Championship from Wait a minute. They got it wrong.

465
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Speaker 1: They got it wrong, and it's so I can't wait

466
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Speaker 1: to see that one and show it to my kid.

467
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Speaker 1: And I was telling him about the game that David

468
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Speaker 1: Woodley started that game and Don Strack came off the

469
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Speaker 1: bench and through the ball. Well, the Dolphins an adapt

470
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Speaker 1: they were so well coached. I do think I think

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Speaker 1: i'd pick Elway as well. I do like Marie, They're

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Speaker 1: both great. It's like when you have these arguments, it's

473
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Speaker 1: not like saying the other guys thinks, Okay, who's better Johnny?

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Speaker 1: You ready for this one? Of course, who's better? Andre

475
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Speaker 1: Johnson or Marvin Harrison? Who is better? Harrison finished ahead

476
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Speaker 1: of Andrey Johnson on the all time receptions list. Harrison

477
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Speaker 1: eleven hundred and two catches in the high nine hundreds,

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Speaker 1: all from Peyton Manning Andrey Johnson, so he's right behind

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Speaker 1: him a thousand and sixty two. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Two things to me separate and you just mentioned one

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Speaker 1: of them. Why I would pick Andre Johnson? Number one,

482
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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison had paid Manning all those years now, no

483
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Speaker 1: offensive shob or the David Carr or even the fifth

484
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Speaker 1: seed in that last year in twenty fourteen, Andre never

485
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Speaker 1: had paid Manning throwing him the football. Here's number two,

486
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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison line up on one side of the field

487
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Speaker 1: and played half the field and that was all he did.

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Speaker 1: It's basically like playing Iowa high school girls basketball, where

489
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Speaker 1: you were on one side of the court. You didn't

490
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Speaker 1: even play defense. You just did the offense. That's all

491
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Speaker 1: he did. He played on that side of it, Andrea

492
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Speaker 1: moved all over the field. He could play the X,

493
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Speaker 1: he could play the Z. He didn't even ask him

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Speaker 1: like tight end if you wanted to. I'll take Andre

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Speaker 1: all day, every day. Marmn Harrison is not like listen,

496
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Speaker 1: Marmn Harrison was an exceptional receiver for what the Colts

497
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Speaker 1: wanted to do, and teams knew that they were gonna

498
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Speaker 1: throw the ball to Marmain Harrison, but he played one

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Speaker 1: side of the field and did basically one thing on

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Speaker 1: that side of the field, like forget it, no, Andre Johnson, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. Look Andre, you mentioned at the quarterbacks, Marvin

502
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Speaker 1: Harrison having Reggie Wayned with him and the other weapons

503
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Speaker 1: of Peyton Manning throwing up the rock. And I always

504
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Speaker 1: go back to this kind of stuff. If you have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of gms and they do a draft, what's

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Speaker 1: the consensus pick between the two guys and their prime

507
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Speaker 1: You know, who do you want on your team? It's

508
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Speaker 1: gonna be Adrey Johnson. Yes, so I agree, all right,

509
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Speaker 1: here we go. Who's better. We've talked about this recently.

510
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Speaker 1: We were mentioning the Detroit Lions. The Texans played them

511
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Speaker 1: this year up there Thanksgiving. It's gonna be awesome. Matt Stafford,

512
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Speaker 1: who we like. Nice guy. I've interviewed him before. I

513
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: think you have two nice guy. Not to take anything

514
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Speaker 1: away from his talent. He's supremely talented, he really is.

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Speaker 1: But over the course of his career, which began in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, they've had four winning seasons. So

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this. He's kind of like the Archie Manning

518
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Speaker 1: of the teens here, you know, he the way he

519
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Speaker 1: is so highly regarded, yet they don't win. And Jim called, well,

520
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Speaker 1: he got him fired. Matt Patricia. I hate to say

521
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Speaker 1: that he got him fired, but you know, Jim called well,

522
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Speaker 1: got fired after going nine at seven. By the way,

523
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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, better get it going fast, otherwise he's gone too.

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Speaker 1: But I mentioned, you know, he's kind of the Archie

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Speaker 1: Manning of this of this day. Who's better Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: or Archie Manning? And what do you know, I've got

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Speaker 1: Archie Manning's numbers up here. They're not good. But when

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Speaker 1: you look at seventies QB numbers, then the good qbs

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Speaker 1: in the seventies, Johnny. I mean it's tough, like Burt

530
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Speaker 1: Jones was a highly regarded quarterback. Numbers don't look so great.

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Speaker 1: Brian Pipe one an MVP once upon a time. You know,

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Speaker 1: the numbers don't tell the whole story. Manning played on

533
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Speaker 1: horrible Saints teams. Buy in large, finished eight and eighth.

534
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Speaker 1: That was the high water mark in nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: Who's better Archie Manning or Matt Stafford. I would take Archie.

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Speaker 1: I would take Archie. Archie had nothing, nothing, Archie had

537
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Speaker 1: no one around him whatsoever. Matt Stafford came into the

538
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Speaker 1: league throwing a megatron like he came into the league

539
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Speaker 1: throwing a megatron Archie Manning was throwing. I mean he

540
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: eventually got west Chandler, and that was the best. That

541
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Speaker 1: was the best that the Saints could do for Archie

542
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: Manning was to give him west Chandler. I think he

543
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: had Chuck Muncie as a running back for a little

544
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: while before months. He ended up going to the Sego Chargers,

545
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: and so did west Chandler. And west Chandler went to

546
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Speaker 1: the Charger. Manning had absolutely nothing if man If you

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Speaker 1: would have given Manning, like I think it's the twenty

548
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Speaker 1: fourteen Lions. I think it's the twenty fourteen Lions. If

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Speaker 1: you would have given an Archie Manning at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of his career, and this same as prime, you give

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00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: an Archie Manning a twenty fourteen Lions crew. Now, obviously

552
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: you couldn't do anything about the defense. Even this is okay,

553
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: but Archie Manning would have been losing playoff games. First

554
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: of all, they wouldn't have been a wild card. They

555
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: would have won the division and they would have been

556
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Speaker 1: doing something with Archie Manning at quarterback. And I like

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00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: I like Matt. I think Matt does get a bad

558
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: rap on certain things. But as it pertains to Archie Manning.

559
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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. People say, oh, well, you just

560
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: love the Mannings. No, no, no, I was never and

561
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Speaker 1: have never been a Peyton Manning guy. I never understood

562
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Speaker 1: the fascination with Manning. Now and I know, like I

563
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: could see my own eyes. I saw it he did

564
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: the Texans. I get it. Paid Manning with a great quarterback.

565
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: I would take Tom Brady over him every single day

566
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Speaker 1: of the week. I would take t j yates over

567
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: him every single day of the week. I am just

568
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: kidding when I said that, but I was waiting for

569
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Speaker 1: at least some response, because I know some people are

570
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Speaker 1: in the car going what did you say? I was

571
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: just not a I was not a mann and guy.

572
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: But I think Archie skill set. See, that's the thing.

573
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Speaker 1: Archie skill set was much different than Elin Peyton. Archie

574
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: could move, Archie could get out of the pocket and

575
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Speaker 1: make something happen. And if you hadn't put that in

576
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Speaker 1: the Lion's offense, would Jim called Will? Jim called Will

577
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Speaker 1: still be the coach? Peyton, Manning and Brady were the

578
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: Magic and Larry of this league for a while right now,

579
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Speaker 1: not that they needed like Magic and Larry did the NBA.

580
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: It's it's lord, It's what they needed at the time.

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00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: It launched a league into another stratosphere of excellence and recognition.

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00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: So it wasn't quite the same in that way. And

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Speaker 1: if you had to pick one to be magic, it

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Speaker 1: would be Brady, but his Brady not more Jordan really,

585
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: because Manning and I say the magic and Larry his

586
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: magic outdid Larry in terms of championships and everything and

587
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: beat him head to head more. But is it more?

588
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Let's see he un eighty five and eighty seven. Yeah,

589
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: so he did um five Magic at five because he

590
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: had Magic five, Larry at three, and and Larry's two

591
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: of Larry's were over there. I'll take Larry. I'll take Larry, though,

592
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Speaker 1: I'll take Larry. I know that's crazy. I'll take Larry

593
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Speaker 1: birds right, I don't know this is this is a

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00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: good one, all right, So sixty seconds on this, you

595
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: get thirty seconds go on Magic and Larry. Yeah. Oh,

596
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: I'll take Larry all day, because Larry had the one

597
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: thing especially that Magic didn't. I Magic could create for

598
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Speaker 1: for guys, but Magic had so many guys he could

599
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: create for. Larry could create, but Larry could shoot. Magic

600
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: couldn't shoot. He couldn't shoot. Larry can knock down. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if Larry played in today's game, where

602
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: the three was much more prevalent, forget it, he would

603
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: have averaged thirty five plus every night, just if he

604
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: wanted two shooting threes. Layburn was so great he went

605
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: out to Portland one night on a back to back

606
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: and said, I'm gonna beat you all with my left hand,

607
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: and then scored thirty five points. I believe with his

608
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: left hand, that's crazy. That's crazy. Well, and I always

609
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: thought the biggest thing he had going for him or

610
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: in the argument was magic. Got to play with Kareem

611
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: who's one of the top five players of all time.

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00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: Maybe you know it's certainly a top ten player. Larry

613
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: didn't have any top ten players with him. You know,

614
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Speaker 1: you know what we missed. What we missed Bird in Bias,

615
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: That's what we missed. Yeah, that's what that's That would

616
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: have been a huge brometer Bird in Bias. Yeah, Bird

617
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: and Bias playing together than handing the baton to Bias

618
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: and seeing what he could take from Ry Reggie Lewis

619
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Speaker 1: was nice though. For the Celtics are right back to foot,

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00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: back to football, Johnny, Who's better? We're doing the Who's better? Segment?

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Speaker 1: Here the twenty eighteen Chiefs or nineteen ninety nine Saint

622
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Speaker 1: Louis Rams, Who's better? Okay, send it again. I gotta

623
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Speaker 1: you said twenty nineteen Chiefs. I said twenty eighteen Chiefs

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Speaker 1: or twenty eighteen Chiefs. Uh. I know this one won

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00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: a championship, but I'll tell you what, like it's kind

626
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: of like what we were talking about with the Steelers

627
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Speaker 1: when they went fifteen and one, but they won the

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00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl the next year. That's that's the feeling. It's

629
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Speaker 1: not exactly that, but it's the feeling I get from

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, who you know, they weren't as good. I

631
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: felt like they weren't as good this past here, but

632
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: they got into the playoffs, they fell behind in these

633
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: games and they managed to find a way to win. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's winning football, it's what it takes. It

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00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: felt like, Man, I'm not gonna make sure I say

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Speaker 1: this right. Because all the weapons on the Rams and

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Speaker 1: the Rams through the ball down the field, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they they really opened it up. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I looked at the Rams receivers and and feared

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Speaker 1: them the way that I look at Kelsey and Tyreek

641
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Speaker 1: and go, god, I can't believe we're gonna face these guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can't believe. Yeah yeah yeah. So it felt

643
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: like with the Ram now that was the That's the

644
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: great equalizer though, is Marshall Falk. Falk is the one

645
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Speaker 1: guy that he did he was he was scary. But

646
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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, you have Pat thrown to Kelsey and Tyreek,

647
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: and it just feels like the Chiefs the Rams, it

648
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: felt like they were going to score on you no

649
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: matter where they were in a field. But I don't

650
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: think it was gonna be a one place score. The Chiefs.

651
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: They might go three drives and do nothing and then

652
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, hit eighty five yard bomb because

653
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Tyreek beat you deep. Ye. The Rams, it felt like

654
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: they were gonna beat you with a thousand paper cuts

655
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Speaker 1: if they needed to. The Chiefs, it's just gonna be

656
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: one slice and you're done. And they've got a pretty

657
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: healthy ninja sword to be able to do that with

658
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Speaker 1: with Tyreek. But Marshall made them so different. Marshall was

659
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Speaker 1: the equalizer and the Chiefs don't have that. I know

660
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Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Laire is going to be a good player

661
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Speaker 1: for them. Damian Williams is not that Marshall falk on

662
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in twenty eighteen. Oh shut it down, shut

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Speaker 1: it please, please? No, Okay, I've got one more and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna answer it. After the break, we're doing the

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Speaker 1: Who's Better segments? Save this one for the next segment.

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Speaker 1: Who's Better for Football? Al Michael's or Pat summer All

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Speaker 1: you'll have that answer for me next and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about what the owners discussed today. It's happening on Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access Touchdown. Texans Radio continues in a moment. Don't

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Speaker 1: miss an episode of our Texans podcast. Subscribe on Iune,

671
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Speaker 1: let's tune in and Stitcher to get the latest send

672
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Speaker 1: right to your phone. You know, I'm a Google Android guy, Johnny.

673
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Speaker 1: I worked with that little start up out of the

674
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Speaker 1: Valley called Google. I don't know if you heard of them,

675
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Speaker 1: but that's that's my phone. So I don't get the

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00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: iTunes podcasts. I go on Stitcher and tune in and

677
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: and spreaker and all these other things. I've been potting

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Speaker 1: a lot. When you know, when I go running, I

679
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Speaker 1: go potting. I'd listen to either one of ours or

680
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: somebody else like Gary V or somebody like Yeah, that's

681
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff. And you know what, podcasts, even though

682
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: they're competition for us, I get it audio competition. It's

683
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: very encouraging to me because this is radio in the

684
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Speaker 1: twenty first century. It's just a continuation of the medium.

685
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: This is you know, Marconi would have been like, yeah,

686
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Speaker 1: that makes sense if you can see it today, that

687
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: makes sense that that's where it's gone to. And you

688
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Speaker 1: know it's We have terrestrial radio, we have podcasting, we

689
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: do both. It's all great, so wonderful to be on

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Speaker 1: the air with everybody talking about Houston Texans football and

691
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: other stuff. Now we left you. It was a cliffhanger

692
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Speaker 1: in the last segment, who's better for football broadcasting? Al

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Speaker 1: Michael's or Pat Summer All? And before I ask you,

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Speaker 1: before you answer, Vander Getto was up here and I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry Vander kid too. We cannot do a segment on

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Speaker 1: bay blades. Okay. He wanted us to talk about, like

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Speaker 1: why aren't we talking about the most important thing in

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Speaker 1: all of competition bay blades? And I just can't go

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Speaker 1: there right now. And I didn't even know what these

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Speaker 1: things were until a few months ago when he became

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Speaker 1: obsessed with them. And other parents listening right now you

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Speaker 1: are suffering along with me with the relentless pursuit of

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Speaker 1: purchasing bay blades at a frenetic pace and all they

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Speaker 1: do to your kids' lives. So anyway, what is what

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Speaker 1: is it? It's like a it's a top that and

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Speaker 1: they got a TV show and it's all about selling

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Speaker 1: the toys as most of these kids TV shows are.

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Speaker 1: And uh, and it's like it's spends very quickly. It's

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Speaker 1: very impressive. And you spin two tops with these launchers

710
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Speaker 1: and they spend very fast and they come apart. They'll

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Speaker 1: crash into each other and whoever survives is the winner.

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00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: And the cartoon is very nasty. These kids are like,

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Speaker 1: they're very nasty to each other. I'm gonna get you,

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Speaker 1: and they summon like the ancient gods that it's it's

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Speaker 1: probably not very good for him, but anyway, it's uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's approved for seven and older. So what

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00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: the heck? Hey, blade burst, that's what it is. It's

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00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: a baby blade burst. They burst each other or whatever. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's a Pat Summer all I. And maybe part

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Speaker 1: of it is that Pat just brings me back. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Pat was when you when you listen to Pat Summer

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00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: all and and look al is not Kevin Harland. I

723
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: like Kevin. I interviewed Kevin a lot from my Overnight show,

724
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: and Kevin was so great. But Kevin when he does

725
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: a game on the radio, be at basketball or football,

726
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: he tells you what every blade of grass is doing,

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00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: and it's it's almost disconcerting. Al does not. Obviously on TV,

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Speaker 1: it's a much different You don't need to tell quite

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Speaker 1: that story. I think Al does a good job telling

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Speaker 1: the story. I think he is an enjoyable listen. There's

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Speaker 1: no no question to me about that. But when you

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Speaker 1: listen to Pat summer All, it was the first of

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Speaker 1: all the voice. You you'd hear that voice and you, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's Pat. You knew it was Pat, and then you

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Speaker 1: knew it was a big game. And I know that

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Speaker 1: probably the youngsters now they hear Al's voice and probably

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Speaker 1: feel that same way. But for us, it was you

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Speaker 1: hear Pat summer All's voice and along with John Madden,

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00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: and you knew, Okay, this is the guy. I don't

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Speaker 1: care who's playing, and they used that the biggest game.

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Speaker 1: I don't care his playing. I'm I'm watching this game

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Speaker 1: because they're calling the game. It was one of the

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Speaker 1: not rare instances I used to do this with Dick

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Speaker 1: Vital early in his career. Like if dickyv was calling

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Speaker 1: a game, I wanted to watch it because first of all,

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Speaker 1: I knew it was an important game, but I was

747
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Speaker 1: I would be entertained by him. With Pat and John,

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Speaker 1: I was entertained. I was informed, but Pat the way

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Speaker 1: that he just wove the very short spurts, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way he would say far to throw Stewart touchdown Packers.

751
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: And it was like six everything. Nineteen ninety six NFC

752
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: Championship game. In tradition, with legends as big as any

753
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: in pro footballers seek to create their own, and in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, expectations ran high. And I mean, I'm sorry,

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00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: it just gives me chills. That's what's missing from so

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00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: many guys today is the drama. It's like they take it,

757
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: that's taken it seriously. And and I just think people

758
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: today almost take it too seriously, like like they're about

759
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: to describe surgery. It's not surgery, it's drama. It's NFL drama.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is lambeau Field and he's not even talking.

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Speaker 1: And he was the best in laying out all right.

762
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Speaker 1: Saw a second. I'm trying to find the weather is

763
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: pretty good and it's going to be a mass track.

764
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Speaker 1: What kind of game do it? I think the weather

765
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: is going to be cool, but I think the field

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Speaker 1: is all. I'm sorry. Just hearing those two, I mean

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Speaker 1: hearing those two just brings me back now, I will say,

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Speaker 1: and I've never had the opportunity to meet either Pat

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Speaker 1: or Al, but Al has al has I've heard interviews

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Speaker 1: with Al. I talk to people that you know, have

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Speaker 1: known him. Obviously, he's dealt with people in our building.

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Speaker 1: He's been around our building. Everybody to a man, says

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Speaker 1: Al Michaels is as good as it gets as as

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Speaker 1: a human being, Like he is just the absolute best,

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Speaker 1: and so that will always warm my heart. Now I

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Speaker 1: can't speak to Pat. I know Pat had to get

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Speaker 1: through and get over some hurdles with some things he

778
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: was dealing with alcoholism and things like that, but I

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00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: think in general Pat was thought of as highly as

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Speaker 1: Al is. And I hope before you know too long,

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Speaker 1: I just have the opportunity to meet Al. I've never

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00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: been times where I'm I want to go up at

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00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: to him and like, I don't know, but you know,

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00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: we had the opportunity interview Jim nance and that was

785
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: really that was really cool. That was really cool, and

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00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: Jim was just so giving him his time and asking

787
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: me where I was from and then find out I

788
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: was from Houston. So we had a lot of connection

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Speaker 1: there and Al. I've heard it's kind of the same way.

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00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: So you know, when Al's calling a game, and that's

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00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: the thing. For Patt, it was football, but you mentioned it.

792
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: For Al, he could do so many different sports. And

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00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: what is he most well known for? Do you believe

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00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: in miracles? Yes? A hockey game, right, more than any

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00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: football call he's ever done. Yeah, And that's unfortunate because

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00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: I think he is. He's right there with Pat as

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00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: far as level of NFL play by play broadcaster, but

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Speaker 1: he's known for that. He had to me, it's more

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Speaker 1: about his versatility, whereas Pat was just brilliant the way

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Speaker 1: that he told the story of the game, Johnny. Most

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Speaker 1: of the TV guys, the national voices, aren't known for

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00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: specific calls, right right, Summer All is not known for

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Speaker 1: any specific call. In fact, the super seventy sports guy

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00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: tweets out, you know, he'll tweet out the slate promoting

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00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: the Sunday night lineup on CBS like murder, she wrote.

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00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: He says, I dare you to read this and not

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00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: hear it in Summer All's voice Tonight Murder, she wrote,

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00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: you know, and that is it. I mean, that's that's

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00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: Summer All right there. And as I say, the guys today,

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Speaker 1: take it. Look Joe Bucket, they're all great. Joe Buck's great,

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Speaker 1: Al Michaels is great, Jim Nanz is great. They're all great.

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00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: They're all great. I think the next level of guy,

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00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: you know, Harlan's great, We love him. I think there's

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00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: a level of guys who could learn something or learn again.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jamie Roots likes to say, we don't need

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00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: to be educated as much as we need to be reminded.

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00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: If you listen to stuff like that, to the way

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00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: Pat used to call an opening and things like that,

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00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: and the way he economizes on words. All Right, we

820
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: don't have much from around the league today, Johnny, anything

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00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: stand out to you about what the owners talked about

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00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: today was a lot of stuff about all the ruining

823
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: rules stories been at play. You and I've talked about that,

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00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: Uh about that yesterday. I wasn't too surprised that they

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00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: tabled the aspect of the draft picks. I mean that

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Speaker 1: that was not that was not surprising, you know at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was that was to be expected in

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Speaker 1: some sense. So, um, yeah, I don't I don't know

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00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: if there was there was much um kind of waiting

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00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: to see if and when they decide on particular rules changes,

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Speaker 1: if they're going to vote or come to any kind

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Speaker 1: of agreement on the on you know, any of the

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00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: rules changed, not the ones that I threw at you

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Speaker 1: the other night, um, but they're that fourth and fifteen

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00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: on site kick has been presented and I can't remember

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Speaker 1: if it was the Eagles, Eagles are the Redskins? Probably

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Speaker 1: believe it's the Eagles. Yeah, And the Eagles presented the rules.

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00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: And every year the teams get to submit rules and

839
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: one year the Patriots had like eight of the fourteen.

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00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: This year, I think the Eagles had their share of submitted.

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00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know how that process works, but that

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00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: to me is what I'll be looking forward to. You know,

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Speaker 1: are there any rules changes that that the owners look

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Speaker 1: at and say, hey, we need to discuss this or

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Speaker 1: we need to change this, and they vote on something

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Speaker 1: like that. So that's the one um that I'll be

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Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see how that goes down. But

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Speaker 1: I think the amendments, adjustments, whatever you want to say

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Speaker 1: about the Rooney rule, I think, as we talked about

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Speaker 1: last night, I think they're good. I think that draft

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Speaker 1: pick thing that they had attached to it. That was

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Speaker 1: that was that was not gonna be a good situation.

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Speaker 1: I think that was pretty much universal. It felt like

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Speaker 1: that was sort of a crowdsource thing thrown out there,

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Speaker 1: see how people react, and then we'll just oh, boy,

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Speaker 1: they don't like this, so let's not go with that.

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Speaker 1: And I think that does happen in sports and other things.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that's gonna do it for tonight. It

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Speaker 1: always goes my way too fast, Johnny, and I know

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Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll get another big one. And Thursday we have

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Speaker 1: John mcclan coming out on the show, of course, and

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Speaker 1: you never know who else is gonna drop by. Oh

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Speaker 1: you're you're catching up with Max Sharping tomorrow. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun, right I am. So we'll have Max Sharping. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll have Max Sharping hopefully tomorrow. We've got a few

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Speaker 1: other interviews schedule at some point, I hopefully catch Kelly.

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Speaker 1: What about Tim Kelly, let's get Yes, we have Tim

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Speaker 1: Kelly tomorrow night as well, so uh yeah, well we'll

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Speaker 1: definitely have a few things, a few things on tap

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Speaker 1: for tomorrow. Hearing for Tim kellbud be pretty interesting to

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Speaker 1: hear Tim Kelly. Now the play caller and not just

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator but first year play caller for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: So that should be fun. So we'll have all you've

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Speaker 1: got in the Lab podcast up there with Drew and

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Speaker 1: some other good stuff on Houston Texans dot com. All right,

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Speaker 1: thank you Joanna for producing. Thank you Johnny. Have a

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Speaker 1: great night everyone, Stay safe, stay healthy, and go Texans.

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