WEBVTT - A Million Dollar Dream (w/ Cayman Kelly)

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. You are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Vitamin D Podcast. I'm your host, Dawn Day, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to help you become your best self. For

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who may be joined us for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, I say welcome. I'm glad to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on this journey of discovery with me as we shine

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<v Speaker 1>light on new ways of being and thinking. Today, as

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<v Speaker 1>we go into the fall, I'm thinking about the work

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to get here. Think of a tree. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There are trees all over the Northern hemisphere that are

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<v Speaker 1>starting to transition from some of the fall to change

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<v Speaker 1>into those beautiful fall colors that make the season such joy.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is a tree? It's big, it's bold, It

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<v Speaker 1>takes in the sun and puts out oxygen. But what

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<v Speaker 1>did it take for the tree that towers one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>plus feet above you to get that tall? It had

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<v Speaker 1>to start somewhere, right, just like all of us. It

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<v Speaker 1>started small, a little acorn in the ground, covered in

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<v Speaker 1>at what just seems like dirt at first sight. But

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that dirt and that fertilizer that doesn't smell

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<v Speaker 1>too good. Terms and roots begin to go deep and

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<v Speaker 1>the tree grows tall, just like you, just like me,

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<v Speaker 1>just like everybody. See, whenever we start to chase our dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>we may be small at the start and a bit uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>but with just the right fertilization and life a k

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't Vitamin D, we take our dreams and aspirations to

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<v Speaker 1>the next level. Just wait and you'll see which brings

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<v Speaker 1>me to our guest today, Caman Kelly Came and Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>is a nationally syndicated radio personality on Serious XMS, Heart

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<v Speaker 1>and Soul, and he's also the voice for Paul one

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<v Speaker 1>O five in New York, The Breakfast Club, ESPN Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>Bounced TV, Monday Night Football, Hello Somebody. The list goes

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<v Speaker 1>on and on, and he joins me to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>his new book, From six Dollars an Hour to a

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<v Speaker 1>Million Dollar Dream. Now. If you're a dreamer, an entrepreneur,

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<v Speaker 1>or simply just want to be inspired for what's next

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<v Speaker 1>to come in your life, you might want to check

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<v Speaker 1>out this conversation. Came and talks about how you have

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<v Speaker 1>to nurture your gift and how you pursued your dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Look this wind, there's no joke and the process isn't easy,

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<v Speaker 1>but you realize that your decisions determine your outcome. We

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<v Speaker 1>discussed topics like knowing yourself. I wanted to take the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate risk and putting in the work. So without further ado,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time but your dose a vitamin daymin dy right

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<v Speaker 1>with me and get excited about salutations, greetings, greetings, came

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<v Speaker 1>and callie. Hello, Hello, Hell, they will be one. How

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<v Speaker 1>alt thou? I'm doing well. I was just sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>when you said we was gonna be live. I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to go, um cut my hair. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time now. Yes, and by the looks, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to get rid of, you know, I see actually

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<v Speaker 1>a little patch right there, like on the side by

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<v Speaker 1>your ear. Not at ain't a patch. I got it

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<v Speaker 1>toughed in. I just chucked it in for the day

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna get back to it later. What's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with you? How you feeling? First off, let me

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<v Speaker 1>say happy belated birthday. Oh cruel please, it's but it's

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<v Speaker 1>about the time for my next birthday. You lady, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be late when you on time, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what. Okay, you know we're blessing that We're

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<v Speaker 1>blessing this evolution around the Sun. We're blessing the birth

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<v Speaker 1>of this conversation we're about to have about your new book,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is this is an exciting time, came. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to make sure you know this for the

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<v Speaker 1>happy Birthday greeting related so listen. Thank you for making

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<v Speaker 1>time out of your busy schedule to talk to me

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<v Speaker 1>about this gift that you have blessed every dreamer, entrepreneur,

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody that is looking for a purpose. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for inviting me. I appreciate the opportunity to speak about

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<v Speaker 1>it and and this this gift that we're referring to,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Book and some titles from A six dollar an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>from six dollars an hour, it's a million dollar dream, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>law okay, man, man, you're a millionaire now see you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be counting the money now you've said it right

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<v Speaker 1>there in the title a million Are you a millionaire?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a million dollar dree. I didn't say I was

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<v Speaker 1>a millionaire, okay, because I was really excited. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like wait, and I'm like I'm thinking of it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at your catalog. You're voicing for Power one or

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<v Speaker 1>five one. You just got Espen Radio and countless of

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<v Speaker 1>other stations across the nation along with being a syndicated

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<v Speaker 1>radio personality. I was like, you know, what, are you

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<v Speaker 1>still voicing for Bounce TV as well? Yeah, I'm voiced

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<v Speaker 1>for Bounced as well. So honestly speaking, I could definitely

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<v Speaker 1>see how you could be a millionaire. Huh. So, honestly speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>I can definitely see how you could be a millionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I sit back and look at it, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blessed, I'll say that. Okay, So just real quick, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So whether or not you want to actually confirm about

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<v Speaker 1>the millionaire part, the fact that you can even put

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<v Speaker 1>that in the centence that your money can even keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with a millionaire, what does it feel like? I

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<v Speaker 1>was good? You know, I mean, I've always dreamed about

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<v Speaker 1>being in this space because you know that that whole

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<v Speaker 1>title actually sums up the entire journey that I went

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<v Speaker 1>on to get to the point where I'm at. So

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<v Speaker 1>six dollars an always representative of my real pay. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was getting paid when I first started working

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<v Speaker 1>out of college and major radio, major market radio, six

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<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour. But the thing is I only got

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<v Speaker 1>paid for four hours a day, but I worked all

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<v Speaker 1>day well, you got paid twenty four dollars a day,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four dollars a day, and I had to pay

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<v Speaker 1>taxes out of that money, so you like to dollars

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<v Speaker 1>you walked away with. So it really it really dwindled down.

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<v Speaker 1>You work every day. It was it was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was a struggle. But you know, the thing is when

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<v Speaker 1>you're passionate about something that you can see where you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>I just needed a step in stone. So I knew

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<v Speaker 1>it would turn into something if I put in the work.

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<v Speaker 1>So if somebody to present me the opportunity, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it was six dollars, because at first I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for free, you know, so six dollars was a raise.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think that's how you really know

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<v Speaker 1>when you love something, because it's like the money doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so in the moment that every moment and it

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<v Speaker 1>is just like that high that's you know, Yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just enjoyed being around it. It It didn't matter whether

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting paid, and nobody knew I wasn't getting paid.

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<v Speaker 1>So by the time a position was offered to me,

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<v Speaker 1>when they wrote the figure down on this little like

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<v Speaker 1>the side of this newspaper, and showed it to me

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<v Speaker 1>and I looked at us it what's that for? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>for the year. I was like, what it was like

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand and some our dollars that was in this figure.

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<v Speaker 1>So it breaked. It broke down the six dollars an

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<v Speaker 1>hour for four hours a day, meaning if they paid

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<v Speaker 1>me for a full eight hour a day, I'd been

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<v Speaker 1>making three dollars an hour. Wow. And don't will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the truth. It was a it was a real struggle,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like for real, for real struggle, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they always wanted you to be around, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it was like am I gonna eat? Or am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna put some gas in the cars? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>go to work? I mean, like for real, I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the ash traders when they were still putting ash

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<v Speaker 1>trays and cars, trying to find some change because I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't smoke, so threw much change in the ash tray.

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<v Speaker 1>So some days I was in there looking trying to

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<v Speaker 1>see if I can get me a gallon of gas. Stop. Stop.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a standard story for people in radio,

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<v Speaker 1>like especially because it's passionate career. You love it because

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<v Speaker 1>I can recall when I would be at the radio

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<v Speaker 1>station from five am, and I literally wouldn't leave to

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<v Speaker 1>eight or nine, because, like you said, standing up there

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<v Speaker 1>is how you got the gems, how you got the opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>how you got the experiences. So tell us how how

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<v Speaker 1>was that for you? You came in there, you're making

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<v Speaker 1>six dollars an hour? What were you doing? What was

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<v Speaker 1>I doing? When you running the board? Where you're working

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<v Speaker 1>in promotions? How did you even know that there was

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<v Speaker 1>money to be made in radio when they showed you

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<v Speaker 1>si dollars an hour? I'm surprised you didn't be like

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<v Speaker 1>a bat out of hell and run for the hills.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I didn't, I didn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much it was gonna pay. So so the way I

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<v Speaker 1>started in radio in the first place, I was in

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<v Speaker 1>a music group a buddy of my my buddy Corey.

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<v Speaker 1>We were doing music together because my mom always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>me to take music lessons. I wasn't really interested. She

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<v Speaker 1>wanted me to play piano. But back then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of taboo for a man to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing the piano because it was all women that you saw.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't want to playing a piano. So we

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<v Speaker 1>had a piano at homes. I actually taught myself how

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<v Speaker 1>to play it, and then I started doing all the

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<v Speaker 1>music and he was good with putting lyrics together. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we formed this group. We ended up doing

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<v Speaker 1>like cable TV and all kinds of stuff. We was

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<v Speaker 1>doing performances and he calls the radio station. One day

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<v Speaker 1>he called me. He said, about to be on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>about to be on the radio. So when I turned

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio, I heard him rapping about the promotion

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<v Speaker 1>that they were doing. What he who was on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>He invited us to the radio station. So when I went,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I fell in love with I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I gotta do this because already I

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<v Speaker 1>already loved music. That's number one, and just to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the magic happened behind the scenes. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do this. And the production guy was like,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, man, how old are you? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in T grade. Voice is crazy because my

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<v Speaker 1>voice had already changed by it and you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>back then radio was like all about the voice. Not

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<v Speaker 1>much now it's the personality because it's not the same

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<v Speaker 1>animal as it used to be back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So once I got bit by that bug. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do. After that, I gotta do some radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do radio, So I went. I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>going to college and always kept that contact with the

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<v Speaker 1>radio station. I did radio in college, and by the

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<v Speaker 1>time I graduated, I was looking for a job. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't find anything, because you know, it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where they tell you the proper things for you

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<v Speaker 1>to do, or the things that we think you must do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, successful graduate, you go to college, then you

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<v Speaker 1>come out and get a job that wasn't working out

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<v Speaker 1>too well, you know, trying to get a job because

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<v Speaker 1>there was really no experience and everybody always wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know what have you done already instead of taking you

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<v Speaker 1>on to try to mold you and seeing some type

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<v Speaker 1>of potential, and you in the first place where they

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to take a chance on you. So so

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<v Speaker 1>fast forward a little bit. There was a job fair

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<v Speaker 1>that this radio station was doing, and I was cool

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<v Speaker 1>with the the receptionists. So she said, we're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>job fair tomorrow. She said, come up and you can

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<v Speaker 1>ride with us. So I get there, don I get

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<v Speaker 1>there early. This is how I know, like God was

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<v Speaker 1>in this plan right. So I get there early and

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<v Speaker 1>they already gone. So I'm sitting in the parking like like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I donna drove all the way up here and I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't what happened. So I was like, man, I'm already here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to the front door. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>security phone in the front of the build and I

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<v Speaker 1>picked the phone up. Albid the one who invited me

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<v Speaker 1>in the radio station, and I was in tenth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on the air, so they're coming out, come up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking to him and I was telling him

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to find a job and all this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, well, I don't really have a job to

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<v Speaker 1>give you, but you can certainly help me out. I

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<v Speaker 1>can use some help around my show, like answering phones,

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<v Speaker 1>take a request, stuff like that. Be a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to get your foot back in the door. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I started doing it. In the process, I was

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<v Speaker 1>teaching school that was a substitute. They offered me a

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<v Speaker 1>full time so I was like, nah, I take the

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<v Speaker 1>substitute thing. That way, I can kind of control my

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<v Speaker 1>schedule so I can go when I need to. So

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<v Speaker 1>being at the radio station, they started to notice me around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they started asking questions like can you

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<v Speaker 1>do this? And I was moving chairs and all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that I didn't necessarily want to do, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you had to do so somebody can lay

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<v Speaker 1>eyes on there exactly. So eventually people learned who I

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<v Speaker 1>was so so and in that position came over one

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<v Speaker 1>day when I came from school. I came in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio and somebody was sitting in my chair. So there

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<v Speaker 1>was an intern in there, and the intern coordinated come

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<v Speaker 1>in and tell him to the position open in promotions.

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<v Speaker 1>I suggest you go back there and drop your name.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you taught, right, couldn't whisper go back there

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<v Speaker 1>and drop your name so you can try to get

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<v Speaker 1>that job. So I heard it. I went to Now,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you you won't believe this, but I grew up shy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were not shy. I was shot, like to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where I wouldn't ask you to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom, how to speak, I can't clean up later.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like that kind of shot that this guy

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of timid like. And I saw it because

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<v Speaker 1>I've recognized the introvert, you know what I'm saying, Because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that. But I learned how to cope

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<v Speaker 1>and how to deal with stuff. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna get nothing if I don't say nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went back there, hold on, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>say that again, because I think that is very important

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<v Speaker 1>a journey of any dream or just existence of life.

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<v Speaker 1>How closed mouths don't get fed. There you go, that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what I was about to say. Old folks said

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<v Speaker 1>it best closed I was, don't get fed. And that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because because I know that was a part

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<v Speaker 1>of my personality. But being shot wasn't getting me anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, having a gift doesn't mean anything if

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knows about it. This book right here done. It

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<v Speaker 1>took me two years to finish this book. If I

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<v Speaker 1>don't say anything about it, how people know exist same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with your gift that's inside of you. So by

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<v Speaker 1>me being shot, I realized things about me that I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta overcome some of this stuff. And you're like, and

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<v Speaker 1>I still suffer with it too. You know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like small groups of people. I feel intimidated when I

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<v Speaker 1>walk into everybody staring at me. But I learned how

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<v Speaker 1>I have coping mechanisms that I used to overcome it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I walk in the room, I cracked jokes. They

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<v Speaker 1>start laughing. I feed off of their energy. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>the moodest like to me. So that's the way that

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<v Speaker 1>I deal with stuff. So the same thing with getting

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<v Speaker 1>that job. I man, I'm getting this job. So they

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<v Speaker 1>said tomorrow we're going on the streetead so I come

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<v Speaker 1>from this who I'm fine, I see AM about to

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<v Speaker 1>pull off. I said, wait, wait, wait. I jumped in

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<v Speaker 1>with him. We went to the mall. I was and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's going, y'all doing something passing our stuff. And they

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<v Speaker 1>let me call into the radio station because I knew

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<v Speaker 1>I would get it if they just give me the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's when I came in and they said, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to give you the job. I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>great to make me some money. Though I can't live.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was gonna make a decent amount of

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<v Speaker 1>money at least. So when I saw that figure, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a little shocking, but I still kept telling myself,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an opportunity that I can turn this into something.

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<v Speaker 1>All I need is to step in stall. But once

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<v Speaker 1>these opportunities are presented, what are you gonna do with it?

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<v Speaker 1>About the money? To me, it wasn't all about the money.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's interesting when we talked like about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of entrepreneurs and just dreamers in general. I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that is like a block is

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<v Speaker 1>that thinking about the money and my own thing is

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<v Speaker 1>always like I may not have it all right now materialized,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's coming, and that's what kind of energizes. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just interested to know why do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's so very important to make sure that you say

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<v Speaker 1>yes and seize every opportunity because you if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a desire to do something, you can always turn that

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<v Speaker 1>stepping stone into something bigger, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I kind of used the analogy with you know

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<v Speaker 1>people when they say, man, it was just sunny. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it was raining, but the rain had to start somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It is justn't come out of anywhere like you expect,

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<v Speaker 1>like you say, man, it rain came out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Nor did came out of the clouds, the nimbus clouds

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<v Speaker 1>that have been building up for a long long time

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<v Speaker 1>and they were swelling and they was waiting for that

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<v Speaker 1>moment to first. So it's the same thing with any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of opportunity, and it's I love that analogy because

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<v Speaker 1>I ask God, I'm just like I want my blessings

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<v Speaker 1>to rain down on me, because it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get that water in your right now, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I took it a little left. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>about that's what life and things start to grow, and

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<v Speaker 1>honestly think about it. You know, if we think about

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<v Speaker 1>our blessings are in this cloud and we keep putting

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<v Speaker 1>in the work waiting for the season, can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the abundance and the overflow. Nothing can exists without water,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly. And speaking of water, there was I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading through my book yesterday and there's this analogy because

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<v Speaker 1>if you start doing something and you can give up,

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<v Speaker 1>how much closer are you to your drink? You're not.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to get any closer, So why not

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<v Speaker 1>keep going? And then I used to talk about stagnation

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<v Speaker 1>because stagnation ultimately ends up in death. You kill yourself

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<v Speaker 1>if you stagnate, you die, right, because living things grow

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<v Speaker 1>and they move and they change, right, And think about

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<v Speaker 1>it like this, though, if somebody brought you some beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>fresh flowers, they were sitting in the vase and you

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<v Speaker 1>had some water in there, but they sat for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>that water didn't have any movement, and it started to stagnate.

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<v Speaker 1>When you take them flowers out of that water stinks,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't drink it. It's not good for anything anymore

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<v Speaker 1>because it's stagnated. And it's the same thing with your life.

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<v Speaker 1>If you stagnate, you're not worth any value. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything, You're not helping anybody. You know, like and I.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm a firm believer. I'm not on this

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<v Speaker 1>journey just for myself. And we need to surround ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>with people that can motivate us. And I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time. A matter of fact, last night

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to UM. I was talking to r

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<v Speaker 1>L from next Yes, step back it that's coming close,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his journey and a lot of times when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at people, and I started to notice a pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times when you look at people and

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<v Speaker 1>you deem them to be successful, you don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're dealing with internally. That's why I success can be

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<v Speaker 1>defined in so many different ways. It's not necessarily all

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<v Speaker 1>about finances all the time. Success You say you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be at home with your kids, so your job

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<v Speaker 1>allows you two hours where you could be at home

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<v Speaker 1>but your kids, and you can define that as being successful.

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<v Speaker 1>I've achieved that goal of doing what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do for my family, So you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we can always equate success to being finances. If the

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<v Speaker 1>money comes, then cool, that's the bonus part of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at I want my success to be just

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<v Speaker 1>like peace. I just want to feel good. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do what I love. And I guess also with

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<v Speaker 1>the freedom. But even as you were saying, like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to put your dreams out there, came and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to be honest. There's this thing of judgment that

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<v Speaker 1>we all fear. And it's interesting and I say this

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<v Speaker 1>to myself even as I say, like, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>put yourself out there and you fail your way to success,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And as you talk about the stagnation, that

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<v Speaker 1>procrastination will hit me because us I'm thinking about all

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<v Speaker 1>my imperfection, everything that isn't right, somebody is not good

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<v Speaker 1>enough or that whole perfect you know context, And just

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<v Speaker 1>like how you were saying, like to get over that aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>was it easy for you to just put yourself out there? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it really wasn't. And you know, and and and that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of my natural makeup and my personality and me.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a whole lot of stuff that I

0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:32.280
<v Speaker 1>self sabotaged myself, hear myself out of being successful. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it, but I think I was told no so

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<v Speaker 1>much that I just expected people to tell me no.

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<v Speaker 1>So if a yes came, I'm like, whoa, I'm not ready.

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<v Speaker 1>And I give you a prime example. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got stories for days. So I'm talking to my

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Keith Robinson, who was an actor, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling him, I said, man, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>I auditioned for a soap opera one time? Right? So

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<v Speaker 1>I walked in the room. I'm nervous as hell, dressed

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<v Speaker 1>to kill, though I've got my suit all right. And

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<v Speaker 1>I walked in and they introduced me to the young

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<v Speaker 1>lady that I'm gonna be reading the opposite of. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I already know her, and everybody was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you do, and I said yeah, I said, girl, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember me. I went to kid of going with

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<v Speaker 1>you looking at me like I don't know this fool.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's how everybody was looking at me, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know this dude. But really, I was doing that

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<v Speaker 1>for me because I was breaking the ice in the

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<v Speaker 1>room so I could get comfortable with them. So then

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like, I'm just playing with y'all, they

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<v Speaker 1>fell out laughing and girls like as oh, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, I didn't think you were Jewish, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>because I went to school with all Jewish people, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was funny. Look, we started doing the read. They

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<v Speaker 1>give me the script and I'm looking through the script

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a part of their way at the

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<v Speaker 1>fuss like like the hell with you? Like, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in it right, And the lady was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that was great. Do it again. So I do it again,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said do it one more time, just for

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<v Speaker 1>just for giggles. So I do it again and she

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<v Speaker 1>pulls me to the side to talk to me right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, oh my gosh. She was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>are really good. If you ever take an acting classes before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said nah, And she said you should really

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<v Speaker 1>consider taking acting classes because it'll just enhance what you

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<v Speaker 1>already have naturally. I said, okay. She's like, what your

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<v Speaker 1>body looks like? That's where I work out twice a

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<v Speaker 1>day and she and she made me take my suit

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<v Speaker 1>jacket off, and she said, yeah, you're really toned. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I can't guarantee anything, but she said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you come to l A. She said, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>live here in l A, do you? And I said no?

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, well, if you move to l A,

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<v Speaker 1>I can almost guarantee that somebody will pick you up

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<v Speaker 1>during pilot's season. And I said, shoot out, moved to

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<v Speaker 1>l A right now, right, I'm talking trash right. He

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 1>is cracking up, laughing at my jokes. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea who this woman is. Right, So I leave the

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<v Speaker 1>audition and I'm out in the hallway and the security

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<v Speaker 1>dude say, hey, man, let me. I'll let you for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. I said, what's up? He said, listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is that you have. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you know who that lady was that she

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 1>was talking to us? And I don't have any idea,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, man, that woman is the head of NBC Daytime. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I've worked with her for years and I

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<v Speaker 1>never heard her laugh. He said, brother, you've got something special.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you. He said, you got something special, and

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that stuff that I absorbed. I went

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<v Speaker 1>home and spared myself to death. I was saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that. I can't do that because you know,

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 1>we're fearful of change. But only it's only a few

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<v Speaker 1>people that can really put themselves out there that don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't care what happened. I'm I'm gonna try.

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>There's only a few of those. But it's a muscle

0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to exercise, absolutely, absolutely, So you know, our fear of

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>chain age helps hold us back, you know. And I'm

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you something, and I write about this in

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the book as well. It's all about a network and

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 1>this is what I was touching on before, and and

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>people that can actually motivate you. You can't tell everybody

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.879
<v Speaker 1>your business because you're gonna have some secret haters. And

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that's another chapter in the book. Haters and naysayers that

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>don't want to see you succeed for whatever reason, they

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>may want to change places with you. I want to

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>be where don is. I don't want to see her

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>uh succeed over top of me. I want to get

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>there first, you know. So you've got those people, and

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 1>then you've got naysayers as well, nay sayers of people

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:42.120
<v Speaker 1>who don't necessarily hate you. They actually care about you,

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and they don't want you to get hurt. They don't

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.440
<v Speaker 1>want to see you get hurt. And I know Don

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 1>wants to go on this journey. I know John Don

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>wants to go out of the country, but I just

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to do that. I don't think that's

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>a proper thing for you to do. That's the kind

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.439
<v Speaker 1>of things that you hear from naysayers. So you know,

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 1>like and I listed my parents is being naysayers in

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.959
<v Speaker 1>the book. They care, but you know, like with the

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>competition and the things that I wanted to do, they

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily see me fitting into that because listen and listen,

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and I don't mean this is not this to my parents.

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I love my folks to death. They have been very

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>supportive of me, and even more so now that I've

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>proven that I can actually do it, They're proud to death.

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>And then I've heard the same story over and over again.

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Molly music. Molly said his job lovingly fired him because

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>he was chasing his music dream. It stud had a

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 1>scholarship to play football, and he said, I went home

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and I told my dad, look, I'm about to do

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>this music. It says far like what you ain't feeling

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.719
<v Speaker 1>me around here sucking up my air with no music.

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like people can't see your vision. They

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>don't see what's internally inside of you. So let me

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>ask you this, Do you tell people you're dream there?

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Because they say life and death are in the power

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of the time, you have to speak life of seen

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>your dreams. You have to profess it. So like do

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you say something or not? Do you tell people about

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 1>your dreams? It depends on who it is because and

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>like I keep on getting off the off the subject,

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>but building a network of people who actually understand we're

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 1>going through, you know, And that for me happened to

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>be my wife, Like this is the biggest blessing I've

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 1>ever had. She was the one who was my cheer

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>leader and pushing me into doing things. And when I

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>had started doing voice overs and a lot of this

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff starts to feel like what they I felt like

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it was an accident. But look how I stumbled upon this.

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 1>But really, when you started to look back at it,

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>you see how life is really like a puzzle and

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>all of those pieces start to fit together. Because this

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>is I wanted to do for years and I went.

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I left my job and went to B E T.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 1>This is when um serious sex with XM sat like

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>radio became a thing you and BT was doing a

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>third party channel for XM, and I got hired to

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>do that for me being there and we was meeting

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>with creative services people on the TV side to find

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>out what they had going on. So by sitting in

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>those meetings, these people got to know me. Then they said,

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>can you voice something for us? See what I'm saying

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>being in at the right time, so there's an opportunity

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>for something. And I taught myself how to use the

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>software and put production together. So here I am doing

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>all the B E T S radio commercials. I'm voicing them.

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the production for him. That was a check.

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Next thing I know, I'm the voice of b ET.

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>That was another check. Then BT had Digital Networks. I

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 1>was the voice for that stuff too, so I had

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a retainer from that. And then the job folks up.

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I just got married, built the house, right, But I

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>don't see none of that. I'm like, oh my god,

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I lost my job. Oh my god, just got married.

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I just got this house. What I'm are you going

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to do forgetting that I had started something new. I

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>got these checks coming in from that, so my bills

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>were never late. But watch how this fist together. Dog.

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>So I don't have a full time job anymore, but

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm still working and it frees me up. So I

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>started traveling from DC to New York every week, like

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.120
<v Speaker 1>two or three times a week. I ain't have enough

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>money get on the trains. I was catching the bush.

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>That was a nightmare. Who I know that story? Yes,

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I do, laying down in the seat like they sleep.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Make come on, man. Uh. So I did this right,

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>And I trained with one of the best voice over

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>guys in the world in New York or US in

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>New York. So he made me audition for him right,

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>and the man's dude ain't gonna never call me. He

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>called me the next day. He talked to me for

0:27:56.400 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>like forty five minutes, he said. He said, Um, you

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>have a great voice, he said, and I can tell

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of potential. But you don't use

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>your your tongue of your teeth when you speak. Hold

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>your breath mm hmm. He said, do you ever realize

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>you hold your breath? And I said, no, I didn't,

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know where that came from. He came from

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>me doing a slow jam show. He said, all you

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>need to do is talk. Your voice is already deep,

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 1>but no jam show. This is what you do. Yeah,

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you know we slow jam is on the red light

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>specially you know that you you put on so yeah,

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and I started. It became a habit. So when he

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>pointed it out, that's when I noticed it. Oh my god,

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I do hold my breath and let be out of

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>breath when I talked. He said, all you need to

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>do is really just open it, open your mouth and talk.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>And then he said, you're a great mimic because I

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>would repeat everything that he said. He's man, you you

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>got to potential to be one of the greatest in

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the business. So he said, I tell you what, I

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta class that I'm for me. He said, I blew

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>my class out to work one on one with you. Yeah,

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>so he worked one on one with me. But here

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing done. They keep in mind I had

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>lost my job at the time when I met him,

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>so of course this is gonna cost me something. So

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>here's where my wife comes in. Did you sign them

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>for your class yet? Nah, ain't done it yet. I

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta make sure stuff around he has taken care of first,

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I'll get to that extracurricular. My wife's always

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>been disciplined with money. I spent everything that I had.

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>She was like, I gotta check that I'm signing up.

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, no no, no, no, no, you don't gotta

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>do that. Don't do that. She was like, no, this

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>is an investment for us. And she gave me that

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that check and I signed up for that class, and

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got my voice over demos and stuff

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>together and and this is and I went to a

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>marketing class in New York. Right to do was like

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>he said, man, he said, I'm gonna listen to your demo.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna listen to everybody's demos. And he said, you know,

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>just give me some time to get back to you

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>because I'm really really busy and blah blah blah. So

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, I ain't want to play my my

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>demo in front of nobody because I ain't want nobody

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>critique it. It took me for ever to put it

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>together because I was I was critiquing in myself, like

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>oh no, that ain't good. I wanna do that over

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>let's do this over right here. Finally, I just had

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>to give it to somebody and let them do it,

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise I wouldn't have never done it. So she says, um,

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>So he calls. He actually called me the next day.

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>He said, oh my god, Now mind few. He told

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>me he's really really busy and call me, like, give

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>him some time at least four weeks or so. He

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>calls me the next day he said, oh my god,

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this demo is absolutely amazing. I mean from the graphics

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>on the outside of it to what's on the inside.

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is really really you could certainly work

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>New York. You could certain work New York. Let's see

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>what man. I kept playing that message over and over again,

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like no, dog, and you're serious. No, And that's where

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you start to start to denounce yourself when stuff really

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>starts to happen, like no, this can't be. And I

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>give you another scenario, and this is how crazy things

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that are. So all these years that I'm doing b

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.719
<v Speaker 1>ET stuff, I'm working in my own place, like so

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't really see people like that, you know. So

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>fast forward, I get an agent signed a dumb buck

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>wall in New York. So I do this audition, right.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I did a bunch of auditions that day, and one

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>particular audition that I was supposed to do had to

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>be over the phone, and I kept forgetting the call.

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>So the first night, I forget the call and I

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about a call tonight, and leave your audition

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. So like the voicemail, Yes, man, you're

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be blown away watch this. So so they said,

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>leave your audition on the phone. I do all these

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>auditions to record them, and I'm geting ready go to sleep.

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>About two o'clock in the morning, I forget. I said, oh,

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do that audition. So I grabbed the script

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and I grabbed the phone, and I kept hitting three

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to re record it, right, you know you hit three

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to listen to your message and rerecorded, So I kept it.

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>That's it. Then I went, I'm sorry, this is the

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>first thing that you have to hear earlier this morning,

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>because that's that's marketing one oh one. Because nine times

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>i'd attend if they're casting for somebody and me like,

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>we want deep voice too, So everybody in the room

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a deep voice. So what's gonna make me

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>stand out from everybody else. So that's when I'm like,

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say something in front about that. I'm sorry,

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>this is the first thing you have to hear the morning.

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>But and then I read the audition. I ended up

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>getting the gig. What it was for TV Land. Yes,

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I started voicing everybody Loves Raymond promos for TV Land. Right,

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my mind, you're done. This is the first time

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that I'm working outside of my own space. But I

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>walk in, I'm looking the park, I'm green as I

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know what men is somebody in the studio you

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna never know. I active professional. I went in.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>It was like, man, my boss loves your voice. After

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you finish reading these promos, can you do something for

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>us if you have time. I'm thinking, man, I got

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>all the time in the world, Like this promo gonna

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>take us fifteen minutes to knockout. So so when we finish,

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>do you have you How are you looking all time?

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm good. What's your need? So they pulled

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing up on the screen, right, and I'm looking

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>at the screen and it's a new show. They got

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Betty White and Valerie Burton Elly in a minute, right,

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking at he said, do you think you

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>could do? It? Was a scratch track on the dude,

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>sound like I had to do to It's like in Cleveland.

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>So that's the way scratch tracks sounded. Somebody that just

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>putting their voice on it. What they think is folks

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>sound like. So I'm like, yeah, I can knock that

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>out for you. He said, cool, let me get your script.

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>So I get the script and I jumped in the

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>booths and start reading. So he said, oh man, it

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>was awesome. He said, I'll call you the way he said,

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>my boss nights and they want to use you. Should

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I call you? Should call your agent? That said, don't

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>matter whatever, And he said, I call you either way,

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>even if they don't use you. I said, cool, that's fine.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 1>So I left. I got a call the next day. Man,

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>he loved you. So I did the whole egg campaign

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>for Hide in Cleveland, which was like their number one,

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest greatest shows that they ever had

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>on it. I did the whole promo cap wh we

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 1>did is that everything in this journey is this after

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you've kind of like beneficial and you have an agent

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>or a manager, like where are you at that process,

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and I had an agent. By that, I had an agent,

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 1>but you know, like I didn't start working right away.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I did to be stuff for years. But you know,

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>like all the auditions that I went on, I used

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to get frustrated, man like that, ain't land and nothing.

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>But you know a lot of times when you think

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you're read and you're not always ready, and then when

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you start to look back and you said, Okay, I

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>see I had to develop that skill right there so

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I could get to this point. Ain't no different than

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>here's another story for you. Brian McKnight. Brian McKnight a

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 1>record deal and he was nineteen. His first album may

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>come out to he was twenty one. He had developing

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>to do, you know, And a lot of times people

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>as songwriters, if they don't live no life, they don't

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>really have anything to write it. Oh, talk about it,

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>think about it, you know what I mean? And you

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>know what this makes me think of something I've read

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>in your book You talked about and this is something

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 1>that I'm working on, and I feel like anybody that's

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>out there with a dream can probably attest to it

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.919
<v Speaker 1>as well. You talk about this moment, how you don't

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>believe that you should work then live, but you should

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>work and live. And just like you know, that whole

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>notion of taking time. It's just like people tell me

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>all the time. I want to motivate and inspire, but

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>donn if you sit behind and you're working all day,

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you have to get a moment to live, to bring

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>life into the drain, to have something to connect and

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>to relate to. But I'm just curious with you were

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 1>looking at the amount of success you have garnered thus far.

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>How what do you mean a balance? Like I get

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>it when people say you're not going to get eight

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>hours a day. People are giving you accolades because you're

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.959
<v Speaker 1>producing with Hello, I had to produce and take time

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>for it and in order for it to manifest to

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>what you see. M hmm. Yeah. I mean there's there's

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work that goes into it. So the

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>balance comes comes here. Now now watch watch what happened.

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And this is a prime example because and it goes

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>back to my wife again. You know, I'm working every

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 1>day and I'm coming home, I'm staying up doing beant

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff late at night. And we had our first child,

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>so he was like all this stuff and I was

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>working on another radio station when I left BANT so

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm drained, right. So there's a lady

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that worked at BT with me name miss Pat ms.

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Pat gave me a book to give to my wife

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.919
<v Speaker 1>called Choosing to Cheat, And I've referenced that book because

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>what that talks about is that there's only twenty four

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>hours in a day, and you've got all these things.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Just like you said, it's all of these things that

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you gotta get done. But and it talks about all

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>of these CEOs that may be traveling. You know, they're

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 1>making all this money, but they got a family that's

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>sitting at home that they're not spending any time with

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>just because you've got all this money and stuff like

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.879
<v Speaker 1>who knows you? And then in the United States they

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 1>talk about the stress level that most people carry because

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>they work all the time. And then you look at

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>other countries where they take a cs today, just break

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>down and take a nap in the middle of the day.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>This stress level isn't the same, you know, So this

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>book is talking about that very thing. It's only twenty

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>four hours, which is not a lot of time. You

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>still gotta sleep, you still got people that you gotta

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 1>talk to and spend time with. So who are you

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>going to cheat? It's basically what it's saying. So when

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you when you look, when you really look at it,

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>And my wife would asked me this all the time,

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'll go to work and I started doing for it.

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 1>So it she was like, I don't understand why you're

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>still going to work every day. Like it doesn't make sense,

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, because the reality is I was making more

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.439
<v Speaker 1>money being at home than I was going to work

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>every day. It caused you to put gas in the car,

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you find someone at the park, and every day I'm

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>buying lunch and I'm gonna get me something out of

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the vendom machine. Let's just be clear. Okay, I like snacks. Okay,

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>So it could if you really think about it. It's

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>an expense to go to work. So then I had

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to pay more money because somebody watching my kids, you know,

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>so I can have more time school and long enough.

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>And then I got driving traffic to get back home

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 1>pick everybody up, you know what I'm saying. So so

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>so when she kept saying, I don't understand why you're

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>still going to work every day, Like your life could

0:38:56.000 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>be much more comfortable and what you're doing. I said, well,

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you know how many video still feeds my spirit. I

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>still love what I do. I don't agree with everything

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>that they do, but I mean, where else am I

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>going to increase my network like this? The people that

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I meet, I'm talking to artists like these people are

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 1>my friends now? So I said, you know, and then

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I started thinking about We was driving at church one day.

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>She was driving, I was on the passenger's side, and

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>she said this. She said, Man, I'm telling you, I

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>really believe God wants to bless you holding on one

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and he can't bless you unless you let go because

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you gotta make room. Man. You know what's funny. You

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of times when people are close to you,

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't listen to them. It takes somebody else to

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>give you the same message. And then you're like, oh,

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that's a confirmation right there. But even though I heard her,

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say anything right away. But I started like

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>really thinking about that thing. And she would ask on

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>a regular like how many stations do you need before

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you actually leave your job? So I a shout out

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>of random number. I was like, if I got six,

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I would leave to mind you at my first radio station,

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and I never even thought about doing voice So was

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that radio? Because all I wanted to do was be

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>on the radio. I didn't realize that was like even

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>a thing not for me. I didn't think about it.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 1>So the first station I ended up getting was Power

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>one O five point one in New York in the country.

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, wait a second. I read that, and what

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought was so interesting is the gentleman that actually

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>connected you with that opportunity? Yeah, man, Quasi, Quasi actually

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>put together my voice over demo. Yes, I was in

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>New York. I was sitting there with my my good

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>friend Carina, she's on air in Texas. But I was

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>in the studio with Quasi and Quasi set there and

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, just like how you said

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the cheerleaders and what you said bout on your network

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>with and that ultimately desermines your network, is that Quasi

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>took time helped me curate my my whole demo, which

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>actually is what I used to an agent out here

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. I just thought that was a very

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>good connection. Yeah. So you know, like and the way

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that I met Quasi was through somebody else that I

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 1>befriended from serious ex named Brian Appleman. Is always looked

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>out for me, really always, and you're like, and I

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>still give him his props to this day. I mean,

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you are a good friend because you know, a lot

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 1>of times people say they're gonna do something for you,

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but they never really do it. Bringing for you, girl,

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that's cliche. You ain, you're really saying, no prayer for

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 1>me in most instances. And you when you hear songs

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>about my grandmama pray for me, I gotta praying grandmother, right,

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what you're here. You for him to take that

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>initiative to like introduce me to somebody and what it

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>turned into. And you know about having a New York station, uh,

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a top rated New York station. People

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>tend to compyicast, you know what I mean, what do

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>we want to sound like that station? Right there? I

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 1>started picking up other stations because I was associated with

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 1>that station. I mean it was coming. I wasn't even

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>advertising anything, and I would get emails. I picked up

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a station in Milwaukee. Then I picked up a station

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>in El Paso. And this was like, oh, while I

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>was on sick leave because I had herdia surgery. And

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>then my last child was born while I was off,

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'm getting this stuff and I'm doing TV land

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So this when stuff started really popping.

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>So then I told my wife and I said, man,

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, this is gonna be it. In December, I'm

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave my job. So by the time I went

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:44.280
<v Speaker 1>back to work it was July. Man December became so fast.

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I got scared and I thought about like Red nigg

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I ain't gonna do it. I'm

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna stay on this job because I felt like if

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I go in and I'm gonna tell them leave, they're

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna let me go right then and there. And it

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 1>took me a long time to say it, so I

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>was nervous, and I finally went in and at the

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>conversation and they and instead of them saying well you

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>could go ahead and roll, they was trying to work

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>with me to figure out what we could do to

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>keep me on the air. Talk about favor right, and

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly what it is. So now I do both,

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>but I do them out of my home. You know

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I still got my radio show and

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I can still, and here's what happened. And this is

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>what really made me believe the thing that she said

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>when he was going to church, when she said, I

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.839
<v Speaker 1>believe God wants to bless you, but you just keep

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>holding on. So when I did let go, man, it

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>was so many things that just opened up. Remind you,

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I started voice and bounced TV when they in their

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.240
<v Speaker 1>inception when they first hit the air, I was their voice.

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 1>This contract was for six months at a contract so

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>they said, you like we worked well together, it's to

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>turn into a two year contract. So in that same period,

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I was voicing this narration for a crime show and

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I went to this lady studio to record it and

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>she said, oh my god, your voice is amazing. And

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>she said to make sure I get your contact information

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.720
<v Speaker 1>before you leave out of here. And I said, okay,

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that's cool, and she said no, no, a a matter of fact,

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>give it to me now because I would hate for

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you to do the session and you walk out and

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I never have contact with you again. This lady, her

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 1>name is Cheryl. I write about Sheryl in the book Too.

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Cheryl did what she said she was gonna do. I

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>was about to go in Walmart one night, and I

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>checked my email before I got out of the car,

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and I got an email from a lady from TV

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 1>one and said she had listened to my demos and

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Cheryl had referred me to her, and she said, I

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>think you'd be great for Unsung promos. Wow, everybody short notice,

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>but I want to book you tomorrow. What all right?

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Wait the television show Unsung. Ye oh my gosh. Another connection. Okay,

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>first in turning Get Serious x M or when it

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>was excellent at the time. Then Quasi you know, helped

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.399
<v Speaker 1>us in different degrees with our voice over. And then

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I used to work at the production company

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that actually produced the episodes for Unsong called a Smith. Hey, Cam,

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just excited because if you're like a millionaire, that

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 1>means I'm on the right track. That's awesome. Look, and

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 1>then I end up getting the TV one thing. So

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I get hired to do the promos for Unseung, and

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>then all the producers started hitting me up. So I'm

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>doing and then I ended up being damn near the

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>voice of TV one. Wow, it was the end of

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>my contract with Bounce. Right, I get this email, I'm

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>about to go at church one. Damn always check the

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>email before I go in somewhere. It was like, quick question,

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 1>are you the voice of TV one? Oh, I can

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:43.760
<v Speaker 1>tell this Arabia prop So I didn't respond right away

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and then um and I said, no, I'm not the

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>voice of TV one. There's other voices. I just like

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm dominant, but I ain't the only voice that's on there.

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:55.879
<v Speaker 1>So they had a problem with the amount of work

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>that I was doing for TV one. So here here's

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>with a plastic amen from They offered me an exclusive contract,

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>so you know, like if I got to leave this,

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>then of course you gotta pay me for the money

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that I'm a miss so I don't need to see

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>nothing else that That contract was hefty. It reminds me

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of this song. Don't be surprised when I ask you

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>what a cash ship. It's in your pocket, it's in

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>your account, Run me my money. Oh you know what,

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I got the money. I didn't even

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 1>see it, but I felt through your excitement. Man, listen,

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was so many things that were just

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>opening up beyond that that it was. It was absolutely

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>amazing to see things unfold. You know, when you just

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>take a chance and and step out on faith. But

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you said yes, Cam And that's the thing that's so amazing.

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>You said yes, you showed up and you were consistent

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>and just reading your book, like first of all, I

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 1>mean you talk about going from six dollars an hour

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to a million dollar drain. I can only imagine, like

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>you said before, about the naysayers and the challenges. But

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it attests to the fact that when I think of

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Ernest William or William Ernest Henley, and he

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>talks about how you are the master of your faith,

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>the captain of your soul. You have to really take

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.320
<v Speaker 1>initiative to take charge of your dreams and you can't

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>lose sight. And you have to want your dreams as

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>bad as you want to breathe, because you understand that

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>is your why and you talk about that as well

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>in the book. And you know, can you tell us

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit why it is so important to

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 1>make sure that your dream aligns with your purpose? Oh

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, man, you just said it. You said it.

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>You know where you said it. You know your your

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>dream and your purpose line. You know, because when you

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>really start to sit back and you think, like how

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>am I going to help my family? How am I

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 1>going to help people around me? Because I'm a firm

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>believer don that we don't just get blessed to keep

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.319
<v Speaker 1>it to ourselves. And I tell you this all the time,

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>even not some conversations, that there's no better seeing that

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you can do than to invest in another human life.

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:08.800
<v Speaker 1>So how is this gift that I have going to

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.959
<v Speaker 1>help somebody else? And then my subtitle on this book

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>is the process. It isn't easy, but your decisions determine

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>your outcome, you know, which is which is very important

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>for you to keep in mind. Yes, there's some days

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that's frustrating. You know, I stay up late because I

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>had so much stuff to do, but you know, like

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I make sure I go upstairs and I spend some

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>time with my my family and you know, like in

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the kids of our virtual school now, so with opportunity

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.240
<v Speaker 1>because I'm home, like I don't have to find anybody

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>else to come in. I'm here. If they need me,

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>all they gotta do is text me and call me

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and head upstairs. So you know, like that's a blessing

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:47.879
<v Speaker 1>within itself. And you know, another thing that I say

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to you a lot of times, you know, when we

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 1>try to fit situations and that you try to force

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 1>them to fit. And an example, you know, for for

0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.879
<v Speaker 1>a long time, you know though, I was great being

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>on the radio for sometime, and I would look at

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 1>other people like, dang man, they get all the opportunities,

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.879
<v Speaker 1>like people call them. Nobody was calling me like that,

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 1>something like dang man, am I not that good? And

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.439
<v Speaker 1>then one day when things started to turn, somebody called

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 1>me about doing an afternoon job. Right, man, I was

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 1>trying my best to make that thing fit, but the

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>hours were raw. It was three to seven. That's the

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 1>most critical time in my house. Right, somebody need to

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 1>be there. You gotta cooked dinner, kids gotta get bad,

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>They got homework and got stuff to do. So you

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people say, man, you can get

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody just hiring nanny or something. But I don't want

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody to do something that I'm supposed to be doing.

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 1>And here's where it went crazy. So I took this

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>some this workshop at church. Right, it was called fighting

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 1>for your Family. We were fighting for And when I

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>opened my Bible, those books, i mean those worksheets was

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in there, and I started to look at them like,

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, like all of these answers were in

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 1>there about what I'm supposed to do. But here's with

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a confirmation really came. So I fixed dinner one night

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and I put it on the table. One of my

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>kids like, Daddy, you're the best daddy in the world.

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, ripped my heart. I turned around start crying.

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's what made me realize that, like, no, man,

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't chase everything certain things that are more important.

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, man, I has no in the world.

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I can hire somebody to come in here and do

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>what I was supposed to be doing. And I had

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 1>an attorney, And you're like, man, I love this woman

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>so much because she wasn't all about the money. She

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>cared about me as a human. So she was like, hey, man,

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.919
<v Speaker 1>she said, everything's not gonna fit. Everything's not gonna fit.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>She said, you know, your wife is proud of you

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>for who you are and her being taken care of.

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>It's not all about the money all the time. If

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not home, like, somebody got to fill it in

0:50:54.880 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the gap, you know what I mean. And and you're like,

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and I look at that as part of being success,

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just like I said, you know, like it doesn't always

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>boil down to finances. Look what I'm able to do.

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, just because I took those steps of faith,

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know it was gonna work out like it did,

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>but I tried. But see, here's the thing. It's interesting

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that you know, as individuals, we can't talk about having

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 1>faith without it being exercised, because faith without the following

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 1>following through his dead. And you know, and talking about faith,

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.959
<v Speaker 1>whether it's in a religious sense of spiritual sense, would

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>have you because it's all to me intertwining the same message.

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.760
<v Speaker 1>If you know that things are working for your greater

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>good and the best, and you have this vessel that

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you're gifted that you know if you stay aligned with it,

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna give you on overflow plus everyone around you.

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Why would you not take that chance? And just like

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:57.959
<v Speaker 1>how you talked about in the Book of I thought

0:51:58.000 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>this the name of this chapter was so interesting and

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>shifting because one, I love the fact of how how

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>supportive your wife is and how she was of your

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:09.879
<v Speaker 1>dream and how she goes on the lines of being

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a cheerleader. But just in the sense when we talk

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.840
<v Speaker 1>about navigating through the process of how you have to

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>lose to win, and because of that losing. You find

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>out every way of not doing something. But then again,

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you find out more when it comes down

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to your purpose and how it all just works out. Yeah,

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and then there's another story right there, Dog, you bring

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a story to remembrance. Just talk to Jimmy Jam last

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>week and in that very chapter, because I was standing

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>on Hollywood Boulevard having a conversation with this dude. Right. So,

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether you know their story or not,

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>but Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis they played, you know,

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>behind Prince and the time and all of them. Yes, Prince,

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis a moon like. So they

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 1>go to Atlanta to do some records for the S

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 1>O S. Fan. They got caught in the snow. It

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get back to the tour. So Prince ended up

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>firing them too. So I asked Jimmy, I said, Jimmy,

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 1>was that the worst day of your life? Did you

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>noticed was like a blessing in disguise. He was like, no,

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it was the worst day of my life. Fired from prints.

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. Those records that they've worked on

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:29.640
<v Speaker 1>became some huge records and it's solidified them as the producers. Man,

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>these dudes got like forty some number one records in

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 1>all genres. But do you think about it, It's kind

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of like it lines up with the story that I'm

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 1>telling you about my life. You know, they lost here,

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:44.800
<v Speaker 1>but they won here, and they're like the most sought

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.879
<v Speaker 1>after producers even even in their sixties, like people, they're

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>still doing records, you know what I'm saying. So if

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it hadn't have been for that, they would have never

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 1>figured that out. And it's just like you said, it's

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.399
<v Speaker 1>just making room. And I'm in the transition right now,

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.359
<v Speaker 1>like you know, this weekend, I'm getting everything me out

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>of my house so I can build, you know, start over,

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>start a new because basically never made, you know, a

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:09.719
<v Speaker 1>point to make room and create the opportunities to have

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 1>new And it's like, you know, we asked God, you

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>asked the universe, you asked you know whomever to give

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you these blessings. But where are they going to fit?

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Because if you've got so much stuff stuff meaning stress,

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff meaning things in your own stuff that you have

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 1>no business holding on, the stuff that you hear in

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:31.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody's ear, how could you listen. How could you hear?

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 1>How can you you step into the space if everything

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>is so tight and constricted? Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I deal with the same thing you like.

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things done that people always have

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to realize that you never arrived. There's always room for improvement.

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know when you said that, that reminds me.

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Um a good friend of mine. Uh, Louis T. Powell.

0:54:56.960 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>He says life is a journey. You know. The ernie

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 1>is the experience, and the experience is the journey. Mm hmm,

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.840
<v Speaker 1>very true. That's like Princeton, I love you, you know,

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:11.280
<v Speaker 1>what do you say? He said? I hate you because

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I love you, but I can't love you because I

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>hate you. I love you, but I can't love you

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>because I don't. God, that's deep, right there. I hate

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you because I love you, but I can't love you

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 1>because I hate you. Right, he was deep. Let's just

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>try to imagine what silence looks like, right right, No,

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. I think, you know, you know, just talking

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 1>about this, I think he gives a lot of opportunity. Again,

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and just if we're not clear, because I only name

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things, tell me all the things that

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you're doing, this voice all around in your career. Oh lord, um, oh,

0:55:55.680 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 1>don't wait, take de brother. Hey, look, I'm scrolling through

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the book and Our Parents by Jimmy Jams story right there,

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a blessing in disguise. I'm sorry. Um yeah. So so recently, man,

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I was really excited about this. I get a message

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 1>through my website and it was it was um in

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>regard to ESPN. And of course I looked people up

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.759
<v Speaker 1>before I make contact with him, make sure it's legitimate.

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.560
<v Speaker 1>So I look up this gentleman. I said, okay, So

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I called him. We have a very brief conversation, and

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>when I hang up the phone, he said, le's talk

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>some time next week. So I called him back again,

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:41.799
<v Speaker 1>and I have made out some some notes or some

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>questions that I wanted to ask, right, So I said,

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:47.399
<v Speaker 1>when you say ESPN? What he said he was looking

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.520
<v Speaker 1>for somebody to image ESPN Radio because he was about

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to revampiss thing. And I said, okay. So I said,

0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 1>when you say ESPN Radio, do you mean like a

0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:59.279
<v Speaker 1>local ESPN of Phillips. No, no, no, no, no, man,

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean nationwide? All found it and some affiliates. God

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 1>so I went, okay, like be bound the side. I'm

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:12.959
<v Speaker 1>like this, I'll pumping it up. Give me that kids

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 1>show what I was saying. So so, you know, we

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:18.360
<v Speaker 1>worked on this deal for a minute, and I had

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>conversations to We formed a friendship for this period of time.

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 1>He says, Man, if we get this done, but it's

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>a big history. So the deal ended up working out,

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and I'm now the voice, the national voice of ESPN

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Radio over the TV two some of the shows like

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>on ESPN News and all that kind of stuff. So

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually turned on ESPN because I never hear stuff

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that I do, and I actually turned it on the

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>other day and most of the time I'm just looking

0:57:44.840 --> 0:57:48.280
<v Speaker 1>at news and I turned on ESPN. That's that's me,

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, like even after all these years, it still

0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>excites me to be able to hear something that I've done.

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>You know. So do you remember where you were the

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>first time you heard yourself, whether it was on television

0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>or like the video outside of you know, being on air. Um,

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious one that felt like, you know, the

0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>first stuff that I heard was was b et stuff.

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I did their first celebration of gospel like for the

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 1>radio and then when I got the course to the

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>TV stuff, I would see it on TV and I

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, that's me right there, you know, So that

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was that was exciting and still exciting to this day.

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it ever gets older, tell you the

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 1>true So I can just imagine what artists feel like

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 1>when they hear that song or the radio for the

0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>first time. You know, that's how I feel. And then

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I was crying when I first heard my weekend segment. Mama, Okay,

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:49.240
<v Speaker 1>what else you got? So so then you know, like

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and from that, it's so crazy because I was I

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>was sitting outside one day and this was just like

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago. It's like two weeks ago,

0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:01.439
<v Speaker 1>and I see this email from another gentleman and said

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>that possible voice work was the subject line, and it says,

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>may have some possible voice work for you and m

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:14.439
<v Speaker 1>n F. Right, So I'm like, oh, so I don't

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 1>know what m in and You're like, I've seen it.

0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But of course, like looking at it in the email,

0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what this is. So I google m

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 1>n F and it comes up Monday Night Football. I'm saying,

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.840
<v Speaker 1>hold on dog, so you like, you know, can we

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation. What's a good number to reach you?

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 1>As I emailed him back, he calls me about twenty

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 1>minutes later and we talked and he said, man, I

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:41.400
<v Speaker 1>love your range. Of course, this comes from the ESPN gig.

0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 1>So this is how stuff like starts to snowball after

0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a while, you know. And and this ESPN gig came

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>from um an advertisement that I was running somewhere that

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I was about to take down. I said, ma, I

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 1>ain't get no traction from this. I swear I was

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 1>about to take it down. And then I get this

0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 1>call now but it's still up there though. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>his west in the look he says, um he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he man, so I got this. We got this idea

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<v Speaker 1>because we're changing the intros to Monday Night Football. We're

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<v Speaker 1>using um, Hank Williams Jr. Is not song is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be there anymore, he said. The little Richard the

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<v Speaker 1>State let us use rip it up so on that

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<v Speaker 1>a little Richard put out in the fifties and they

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<v Speaker 1>got a fan out of Richmond that's playing behind the

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<v Speaker 1>vocals and they're singing the backgrounds. He said, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think your voice would be perfect for the intros. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you mind reading one for me? I said, now, I

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<v Speaker 1>got you, no problem. It's I go in my studio

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<v Speaker 1>and I cut it and send it back. He called

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<v Speaker 1>back like he was a little hesitant. He said, I

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<v Speaker 1>just say it whatever, whatever it is, Like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to work with you. I wanted to be right, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if something right is, let me know, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to come across like I'm Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>to nobody, because I ain't that. So he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if we tried this way to be the nail,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd go back and then do it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I got what I need. So he said, I just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta running up the poll to see if I can

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<v Speaker 1>get approol. Hit me back and the next day say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations you are the new voice of Monday Night Football.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, So I do all the intros from

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Football. Now, wait, how does it go? You

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<v Speaker 1>say something? I said, this was for the game, but

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans in the new Las Vegas Foklands. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really like this. So keep in mind at first when

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<v Speaker 1>you started talking about the one of it a Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Live and letter, because he said, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted something like Saturday Night Live, so it's all the

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<v Speaker 1>players and the graphics, and they got introduced all the

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<v Speaker 1>star players in the piece that's playing that night, so

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<v Speaker 1>somebody gets heard, and of course we gotta slapped the

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<v Speaker 1>names out. The listener says, um, it's Monday Night Football

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<v Speaker 1>in the Desert, featuring Drew Brees, Alvin Cumara, Derek Carr,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Jacobs and many more. It's prime time clash in

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. It's a prime time clash in Las Vegas. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's dope dopness dot com. Yeah. I think we ended

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<v Speaker 1>up using this line as we open up the new

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<v Speaker 1>stadium in style, because you know, Las Veleas got the

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<v Speaker 1>new stadium. Really I just said, yeah, like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, I really don't know. They gotta stadium. So

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<v Speaker 1>of course we had to nail that line as we

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<v Speaker 1>open up the new stadium in style. Wow. Yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think about, like, you know, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the trying, and you know, it's one thing to

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<v Speaker 1>be excited about all what you're doing, but like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>like that grind to get to that point, and how

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<v Speaker 1>you said the countless years and at six dollars. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just glad because I'm not sure all the time people

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<v Speaker 1>realize that, especially in today's society, and while we're in

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<v Speaker 1>this whole society where you can really make yourself what

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<v Speaker 1>you are by putting your content out there, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so important that you do. And you know, really pushed

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<v Speaker 1>fear out the way. M hmm, because like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>when you start there and show yourself, you give people

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<v Speaker 1>the reason to want to invest in your acorn. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know a lot of times, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easier said than done, but it does take, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it does take those people around you to push you

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<v Speaker 1>when you get into those boxes to do it the

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<v Speaker 1>day and we're gonna have that, you know, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was frustrating for me, and in the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was it was very difficult in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning because you know, I wasn't making no money. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a struggle, like every single day, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>so frustrated that man, maybe I chose the wrong thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And my dad used to tell me, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the man. One day you're gonna look back at this

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna laugh. And I said, what, shoot, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be glad when they get funny, because it ain't funny

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But you know, like and like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said all the time, but these are stepping

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<v Speaker 1>stones to get somewhere, and it's not easy while you're

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<v Speaker 1>in it because it's a job. I can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>like the worst jobs that ever experienced in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>but I see where they were necessary for the journey,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like another thing they done. You know, people

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<v Speaker 1>they always talk about looking backwards, and people say you shouldn't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's a good place to measure where

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<v Speaker 1>you've come from if you look back. But if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to look backwards, say you gotta stay back there,

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<v Speaker 1>then you don't need to look back. Man, I see

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<v Speaker 1>where I came from, like this is where praising, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, So you can look back for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a good measurement to see where you

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<v Speaker 1>have come from. And then you know also even looking

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<v Speaker 1>back to say maybe what I've been doing all this

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<v Speaker 1>time is the wrong thing and my gift has been

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<v Speaker 1>showing somewhere else, because you know, sometimes you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people because they're always trying to encourage people

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<v Speaker 1>to go after your dreams, keep yourself alive. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not dead yet live. But then people say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too old right now, it's too late. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>ever too late? No? No? And you know what this

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<v Speaker 1>book says at all? When I wrote this, somebody asked

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<v Speaker 1>me and said, what would be a good return on

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<v Speaker 1>your investment? Excuse me? And I said, a return on

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<v Speaker 1>my investment. It's for somebody to be inspired and actually

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<v Speaker 1>take the initiative to do what they desire to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you're ever too old. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a friend and I and you know, like he's been

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<v Speaker 1>going through some some too bad times in his life,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, he said, man, when I see the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that you're doing, he's, man, I'm so mad with

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<v Speaker 1>myself that I didn't do stuff when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, brother, we can't cry over that. That

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<v Speaker 1>time it's gone. Like, what are you going to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the time that you have now? Because time is valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>If you sit all day and you don't do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't put yourself no closer to what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You didn't do anything, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like, don we have such a funk in

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<v Speaker 1>the society that we live in right now because everything

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<v Speaker 1>is on demand, and I blame that on on the

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<v Speaker 1>technology that we have. And another thing I was telling

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<v Speaker 1>r L yesterday, I said, people are dealing with so

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<v Speaker 1>much anxiety because look how we're measuring our lives now.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not talented unless you've got some numbers on your

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<v Speaker 1>social media, Like the numbers outshadow your overshadows your gift

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody wants to take a chance on you if

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<v Speaker 1>you already built the following that, Oh yeah, let me

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<v Speaker 1>see what you've got to offer. And you see it

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<v Speaker 1>play out in so many different industries. I remember um

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Chainsaw Massacre. They wanted to put trade songs in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and people was like, no, we don't know who that is.

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<v Speaker 1>So when they looked at his numbers, they was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, let's put trade songs in it. So they

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<v Speaker 1>put him in that movie because of it. But they

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<v Speaker 1>killed them like before the credit start rolling the course.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you name what my point is. They used

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<v Speaker 1>his name as a draw for people to come to

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<v Speaker 1>the movies. That's all it is. Everything is a draw

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<v Speaker 1>and let's see what you dolls numbers look like. They

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<v Speaker 1>ain't even looking at what kind of talent you got.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. Can I say this, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>completely upset with that, And I'll say why. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard the quote that hard work speaks talent when

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<v Speaker 1>talent doesn't want to work hard. I think this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of similarly aligns to the fact that you gotta put

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<v Speaker 1>your yourself out there. You gotta grind because you know

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<v Speaker 1>you may not be the best at it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are you doing to market yourself to put

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<v Speaker 1>yourself on the block? Right? I understand that, I understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying is, you know, like the anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>comes in. Here's what I'm saying. If I posted a

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<v Speaker 1>picture and only get five people to like it, does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean? What's that mean? Exactly? When I fall apart

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<v Speaker 1>because two people didn't like meny don't like my stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>They just didn't see it. You gotta lot of competition

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<v Speaker 1>that's out there, and then people are willing to wait

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<v Speaker 1>to watch things grow. Oprah was gonna be as big

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<v Speaker 1>as she is. Think about the dudes they used to

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<v Speaker 1>stay over that treat her like ship and talk to

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<v Speaker 1>her any kind of way, right right, That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying like, you don't ever know. And that's that's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I can say to you. We don't deserve

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<v Speaker 1>to treat people any kind of way. It doesn't cost

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<v Speaker 1>you anything to treat I don't care what somebody does.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always say that because the people when I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to work every day, the cleaning people at

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<v Speaker 1>the job, was like, oh my god, you're so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>You always talk to us. You smile like enough you man.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, you know, he said, everybody else walks

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<v Speaker 1>around like that. He did his face like they me.

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<v Speaker 1>But my thing is, you don't ever know. You might

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<v Speaker 1>have to trade positions with them one day. Everybody don't

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<v Speaker 1>always stay where they are now. People grow, they move on.

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<v Speaker 1>What if you got to look at that dude, he

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<v Speaker 1>got to give you a job one day just because

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<v Speaker 1>he cleaning up. Now on me, he canna always clean up?

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it, or take it even a step further.

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<v Speaker 1>If you come in in one night and then and

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<v Speaker 1>they're cleaning up and you fall out, they walk right

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<v Speaker 1>over you your behind. I don't know that. He never

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<v Speaker 1>speak to me down there. That's yes, your only source

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<v Speaker 1>of help, But they leave you down there until you expire.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. You just never know what

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<v Speaker 1>contraffic you're gonna run into it in your life. And

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<v Speaker 1>then also I think it's also making sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>create that good energy, that vibration, because that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>will attract even later on, whether it's with that person

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<v Speaker 1>in the next Yeah, and you know, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>very important, you know, because your your your your reputation

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<v Speaker 1>is really all you have. And you're like, and I

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<v Speaker 1>shared a story with you that I didn't particularly care for,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but you know to the way people treated me.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a man. Listen, you talk about me, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna do you more detriment because my reputation is solid.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done any thing negative to anybody that I

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<v Speaker 1>come in contact with. I sleep well at night, So

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about me, it's gonna come back and bite you. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I just came up with a quote of my head

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Let me know if this works. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my first time staying out loud. Are you ready? I'm ready?

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<v Speaker 1>You keep talking, s h I T your teeth are

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<v Speaker 1>going to rote out. You get it? Quote at Dawnde

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<v Speaker 1>said it on the Vitamin D Podcast with came and Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>facts are all you keep talking s h. Your teeth

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<v Speaker 1>don't fall out, you got Dodo in your mouth right

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<v Speaker 1>and your brass thinking real bad. No, But that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that attested the fact of even you know

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<v Speaker 1>not along with their hard work, along with the just

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<v Speaker 1>straight up opportunity, and that of having the support of

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<v Speaker 1>your wife. But that's something that I always admire about

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<v Speaker 1>you because while I didn't have much interaction with you

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in turning there, I knew of you

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<v Speaker 1>and even the moment that you said hi. Even over

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<v Speaker 1>the years when Brian, who was actually technical producer and

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<v Speaker 1>produces the Vitamin D podcast, he would hit me up,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that you know, he was like, well

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<v Speaker 1>lay some vocals now maybe i'll do something with came.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just like wow, that was an honor, was

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing, and it was never a thing. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I ran into you last year at the

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<v Speaker 1>World Wide Radio stuffing, I was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like nothing. And I appreciate that, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that that really means a lot. Because I came in

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<v Speaker 1>I inspired to do it how you're doing it, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you out here and you're making it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But more importantly, you are investing in lives, and like

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<v Speaker 1>that is my sole purpose, you know, to speak life.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I came across your book and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like six dollars an hour to a million dollar Dream,

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<v Speaker 1>all I could think is, like, man, who's about to

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<v Speaker 1>be inspired by this? Because I know that Detroit girl

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<v Speaker 1>sure was who just heard a voice on TV and

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<v Speaker 1>knew that she liked speaking, didn't know where was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>land to And look I'm talking to shoot, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the prominent voiceover artists in the industry. Shoot, oh networks?

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<v Speaker 1>What stopped playing with me? What? Huh uh? Say my name? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll song. I know all crazy, So thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know. Is there anything else that

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to tell someone as to why they

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<v Speaker 1>should check out your book and what do you hope

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<v Speaker 1>the book does for them? Well? I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>got no more, but you know the book is available

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<v Speaker 1>on October two on Amazon to be available on Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com October two. From six dollars an Hour to

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<v Speaker 1>a Million Dollar Dream. And just remember this subtitle right here.

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<v Speaker 1>The process isn't easy, but your decisions determine your outcome,

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<v Speaker 1>and for all ages. It's for all ages. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter how old you are. You're never too old to

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<v Speaker 1>reach your dream. Please believe. I'm just wondering where can

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<v Speaker 1>people follow you on social media? Oh well, I am

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram at came and cat that proper spelling because

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<v Speaker 1>people were ease and ease and c A y m

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<v Speaker 1>a n k e l l y c A y

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<v Speaker 1>m a n k e l l y on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and on Facebook. Twitter is at Kim and Kelly Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand you've got some things cooking up that

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<v Speaker 1>you do on Instagram Live. I tell yourself a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, I do interviews on into Instagram Live every Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>so invite guests on, and I've had a number of

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<v Speaker 1>folks on inclusive. I gotta look at my wall, so

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Gil, Ralph tresvand Um Jimmy jam let us see

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<v Speaker 1>r l um Gosh has been so many Wayne Brady

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<v Speaker 1>shout out the Wayne Brady is for man Um stokely

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<v Speaker 1>Will downy Gosh. It's been so I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the list, but it's been a love.

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<v Speaker 1>Vant shout out to Von did you have Tank? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a tank. Tank change his phone number.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't call him. I'm Leo. Came on to Neo man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was amazing. So basically everybody and their mama and

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<v Speaker 1>their mama and so yeah, somebody like that. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta be looking around at my wall down, which

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. By the way, it's Donny's you know, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>How long? Um, I've been doing this? Now? How many years? Shoot? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>You know I started from my beginning. My radio journey

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<v Speaker 1>started in tenth grade. I was fifteen and forty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Now like thirty three, thirty three years? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's almost as long as I've been

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<v Speaker 1>on this earth. That's amazing. It is. You know when

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<v Speaker 1>people say you're legendary. Huh no, legendary. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>feel any different, you know. If yeah, I get old,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel younger. Came in m hmm, okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know we're playing here. We're on the podcast Your Voice Forever,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the number one stations in the country for

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<v Speaker 1>a number one morning show. Uh, And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe maybe you say us for the same

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<v Speaker 1>because each part of the process, you know, you're growing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a step. But I'll just say this, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you are legendary. Yes you are that man, that one

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<v Speaker 1>in charge. You are shi nails, and you are a

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<v Speaker 1>beacon of light. And you know they say give people

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<v Speaker 1>to flow at flowers while they're still a live Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you because you know it's those moments to know like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm possible, because I look at your story and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>Dann came into it, and I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>because just even attest to the fact that I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of others, but just like when I think

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<v Speaker 1>about Brian and how we started out and I had

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<v Speaker 1>this program at X him and then he showed up

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just invested on him and look at

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<v Speaker 1>him like what m hmm, yo, Brian Freeland, check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>gives more. He is the man, yo. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, thank you for you. Just thank you, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you because you're going places girl. In fact, when

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<v Speaker 1>you finish up here, you go across street each Sunday. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but for real, nough, don you know? And I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this all the time. I see like you have

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<v Speaker 1>a huge potential and you know, I would advise you

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<v Speaker 1>to just keep pushing and keep going because eventually you'll

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<v Speaker 1>start to see things unfold and they may not look

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes look dark sometimes, but you sometimes look light.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you always follow that light. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to head towards that light because it's there. And like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times, when you start to look and

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<v Speaker 1>you start to get frustrated, tell yourself that God didn't

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<v Speaker 1>bless me with this gift. A man, there's a purpose

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<v Speaker 1>for it. And you know, like this is not on demand,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't just go hit the button and watch

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to. It takes time. It takes time.

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<v Speaker 1>So just to stay the course you know happen. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>again to Cayman Kelly for joining us on the Vitamin

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<v Speaker 1>D Podcast to kick it and to talk about his

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<v Speaker 1>new book, From Six Dollars an Hour to a Million

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<v Speaker 1>Dollar Dream. The process isn't easy, but your decisions determine

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<v Speaker 1>your outcome. Y'all. When I tell you that your dreams

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<v Speaker 1>are in your grasp, I need you to believe me,

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<v Speaker 1>not just for me, but for you. Is it hard

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<v Speaker 1>out there? Yes, but most of the things that are

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<v Speaker 1>stopping you from being to you that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be are within your control. Please, please, please don't skip

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<v Speaker 1>out on what you feel in your heart is your

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<v Speaker 1>calling just because it's hard. Right now, you just heard

1:17:50.160 --> 1:17:52.800
<v Speaker 1>it from Cayman's mouth. You can go from working as

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<v Speaker 1>a volunteer at the radio station to me the voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the station, if you're willing to show up for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself that is. And if you like to get a

1:18:00.520 --> 1:18:02.479
<v Speaker 1>copy of Camus book, you can find it on his

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<v Speaker 1>website at Cayman Kelly dot com. You can also find

1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:09.400
<v Speaker 1>him at Cayman Kelly's Show on Twitter and Cayman Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. And as always, you can catch us here

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone every Monday with more inspiring conversations. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking to get even more Vitamin D in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, you can follow me on all social media

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<v Speaker 1>at Dawn day Speaks. That's Dawn d a i Speaks

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<v Speaker 1>on all social media. Until next time, always remember you

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<v Speaker 1>are your greatest asset.