WEBVTT - Still Hard-Corp Jihadist?  

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Ketty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Jettie and he Armstrong and Hetty and what

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<v Speaker 2>we know about this peace plan.

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<v Speaker 3>It does not call for new weapons, inspectors, or sanctions

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<v Speaker 3>on Iran. Instead, President Trump is saying that if they

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<v Speaker 3>color outside the lines, he will just drop some bombs

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<v Speaker 3>on their heads.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're gonna go through this report from Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Doucy of Fox who lays out the mo OU, the

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<v Speaker 1>memorandum of understanding that did come out yesterday. Nobody's denying

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<v Speaker 1>on either side. I don't think that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>an accurate version of the eight points or fourteen points

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is. It's a very short and vague

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<v Speaker 1>which I guess we'll get into the conversation about that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, because Trump kind of says its self

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<v Speaker 1>enforcing with common sense. But anyway, Peter Doocey goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>And now the Boss has to sell this memorandum of

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<v Speaker 3>understanding to a skeptical American public.

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<v Speaker 2>Key points shared by the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>The US will help develop quote at least three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars for the reconstruction and economic development of the

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<v Speaker 3>Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America

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<v Speaker 3>undertakes to make fully available for the use of frozen

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<v Speaker 3>or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>The increasing it's an easy one to answer. We have

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<v Speaker 4>taken a lot of their money, and we have their

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<v Speaker 4>money we have taken to them, or is there our money,

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<v Speaker 4>it's their money.

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<v Speaker 1>The tone, the language on this and other clips you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear from Trump is all so conciliatory for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that in theory, you know, we've got our foot on

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<v Speaker 1>their neck and forcing them to do something because we

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<v Speaker 1>went to war with them and won. It doesn't sound like.

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<v Speaker 5>That we're going to remove their civilization from the face

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<v Speaker 5>of the Earth's side demand unconditional surrender. Now it's like

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<v Speaker 5>we're best buddies and everything's fine. Yeah, and I could

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<v Speaker 5>even I mean, look, if he believes this is the

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<v Speaker 5>best deal for the country in the world, blah blah blah. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 5>but there would be an uneasy We're watching them every step.

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<v Speaker 5>We are going to absolutely withhold any of the carrots

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<v Speaker 5>until the terms of the deal are met.

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<v Speaker 2>No it hasn't more of a feel of we're officially together.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it was their money all along, so we took

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<v Speaker 1>their money and we're holding it. So yeah, we're giving

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<v Speaker 1>back their money.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. It rolls on on a fourteen point plan. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not until point number eight.

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<v Speaker 3>But you find this, The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms

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<v Speaker 3>that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>Bomb Iran if they don't comply.

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<v Speaker 6>But there's nothing enforceable in the deal itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that correct? Does Yeah, so that's kind of self enforcing.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump says, you don't need to write into the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get a nuke, you don't try to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a nuke, you don't work on getting a nuke, or

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<v Speaker 1>will attack you because that's just understood.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, that's legit. Does that make sense to you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or will drop a bomb on your head. But who

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<v Speaker 2>believes he would?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if iron doesn't believe that, it doesn't matter who

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<v Speaker 5>believes it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think Irona believes it because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. We're not going back to war.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we were looking for a good, solid defense of

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<v Speaker 5>this deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've found one.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's from James Lindsay, who we like in respect

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<v Speaker 5>around here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm brilliant, man. Do you want to hear that now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's get the rest of the Peter Deucy report

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<v Speaker 1>and then we've got to comment from Trump and then

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<v Speaker 1>we can hear somebody say something good about this.

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<v Speaker 3>The president's perspective on ending the war, it was just time.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing that's going to stop them from doing that,

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<v Speaker 7>because you can't cover everything in a document, is common sense.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't want to get bombed.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to get hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the idea of the gentleman's agreement of they

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<v Speaker 1>understand that if they try to get a weapon, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna go back to bombing them. Let's save

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<v Speaker 1>the missiles conversation for a different time because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different topic. Give me General Jack Keene sixty one. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I have been surprised at how negative on this deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Fox has been way more.

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<v Speaker 1>Than I've seen them do on anything with Trump through

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<v Speaker 1>either term of various hosts and guests talking about Trump

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<v Speaker 1>being wrong about something. But it's been endless on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>around this deal. Including General Jack Keene usually supports what

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<v Speaker 1>Trump does.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a three hundred billion dollar investment fund. Who cares

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<v Speaker 8>where the money comes from if it doesn't come from

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<v Speaker 8>the United States. I get that, of course it shouldn't,

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<v Speaker 8>but it shouldn't come from anybody. I mean, when we

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<v Speaker 8>recovered Germany and Japan, the Nazis weren't in charge, the

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<v Speaker 8>Japanese imperials weren't in charge. Here, the Runnians in charge.

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<v Speaker 8>The killers and thugs are still in charge. They're going

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<v Speaker 8>to take that money and recover everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it they get the money first, the straight opens,

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<v Speaker 1>they get to start making money off oil revenue again,

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<v Speaker 1>they get the investment money. And then in the future

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<v Speaker 1>we're hoping they comply on this trying not to get

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you believe they're going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They just survived our best shot and realized we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the stomach to go through with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Well, it all depends on if you believe clipt two.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you talk about regime change.

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<v Speaker 7>Nobody will say that, but I guess that's the one

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<v Speaker 7>instead of leaders is all gone, The second set of

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<v Speaker 7>leaders is all gone. Yeah, third set of leaders a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit gone, but for the most part, and Frankly,

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's crishim change. I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 7>behave much differently. I think they see a different way

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<v Speaker 7>of life that they were never exposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, that is the crux of the whole matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Are these different people? Noah Roffman of the National Review,

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<v Speaker 1>writing the notion that there can be a dependable gentleman's

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<v Speaker 1>agreement with an Islamist terrorist organization constitutionally because this was

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<v Speaker 1>the organizing principle constitutionally committed to America's destruction, is insulting.

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<v Speaker 2>But the question is.

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<v Speaker 1>Are these still hard core jiah hottists or is it

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<v Speaker 1>like Trump said, no, we're down to like the third

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<v Speaker 1>layer of leadership, and these people aren't hardcourjia hotists.

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<v Speaker 5>I would suggest that even in the Quran, the idea

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<v Speaker 5>is enshrined that, Look, if you've got to pretend to

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<v Speaker 5>not be a hard core jiah hottiest to get Allah's

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<v Speaker 5>will done, do that. Deny Islam all day long. If

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<v Speaker 5>you want, pretend you don't believe, if that will get

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<v Speaker 5>you passed your obstacle, do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what they're doing. That's interesting because that's much

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<v Speaker 2>different than.

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<v Speaker 1>The way Christians have handled it for two thousand years,

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<v Speaker 1>where many, many people, certainly in the early days of Christianity,

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<v Speaker 1>went to their death rather than denounce Jesus. You go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and get your head cut off, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Interesting, So a handful more criticisms.

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<v Speaker 5>Then we'll get to a couple of fairly robust defenses

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<v Speaker 5>of the deal. Just a couple of headlines. This is

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<v Speaker 5>from David Sanger. Trump's Trump demanded Around's unconditional surrender. He

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<v Speaker 5>got a surprise instead. New York Times. Iran gets major

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<v Speaker 5>economic lifeline for minimal concession concessions an initial deal. New

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<v Speaker 5>York Posts. That's the headline is buried.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump blasts critics of Isran plan as fools.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's the quote?

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<v Speaker 5>Blasted critics of the Ran deal as fools for not

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<v Speaker 5>thinking he was tough on Tehran, describing them as either jealous,

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<v Speaker 5>bad people or stupid?

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<v Speaker 2>Which am I? Since I think this is a bad deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I jealous? A bad person? Or stupid? Probably stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take emails on that top.

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<v Speaker 5>These fools who think I haven't been tough enough on

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<v Speaker 5>Iran when the stock market just hit a record high

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<v Speaker 5>and oil prices are tumbling down, are either jealous, bad people,

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<v Speaker 5>or stupid, He wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>He does everything on whether the stock market went up

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<v Speaker 1>or down.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's see from the New York Post, Trump's Iran deal

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<v Speaker 5>secrecy was atrocious, and Vance's dodging made it worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Here I got one positive thing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible, and I wish he would say this out

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<v Speaker 1>loud if it's the case. Maybe he feels I could

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<v Speaker 1>be political suicide. But what if this is the case.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't work out like I thought it would. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>in reality and life, you have to go with reality now.

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<v Speaker 1>And reality now is this is the best thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Things didn't turn out the way I thought they would.

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<v Speaker 1>We were wrong, We made a guess. Didn't happen, They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fall, people didn't rise up, regime didn't quit, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. But starting today, with the facts on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>if you landed from Mars today and looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>facts on the ground, this is the best thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do going forward. It's like a going to consolidate our gains.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a sunk cost principle.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, not going to throw good money and lives

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<v Speaker 2>after bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you already spent two million dollars on building

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<v Speaker 1>this house. It doesn't matter. It turns out this is

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea. We need to start from today. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing going forward?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>The sunk cost principle is so clearly true intellectually, but

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult emotionally with anything in life, whether it's relationships, kids, jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>construction projects, investments, whatever it is. If you put a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of effort and time and cost and blood,

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<v Speaker 1>sweat and tears into something, you feel like you got

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward on that project sometimes looking I can't

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<v Speaker 1>abandon that now, Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So JD Vance's political career is swirling the drain. In

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<v Speaker 5>my opinion, we can get to that. I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to rush through the defense of the deal from the

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<v Speaker 5>fabulous James lindsay, So, why don't we take a break

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<v Speaker 5>and come back and take a look at that, because,

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<v Speaker 5>believe it or not, around.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, we just want to know it's true, and often

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at both sides. I'd be happy

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<v Speaker 1>to be wrong. I'd rather be wrong than right about this.

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<v Speaker 1>That this turns out it's a good deal, that'd be awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be fantastic. I don't think it is stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 6>My problem with some of the people who have come

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<v Speaker 6>out against this is there's with this argument that this

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<v Speaker 6>isn't America first. Yeah, it really is America first. Every

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<v Speaker 6>single president has said we have we have to fix

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<v Speaker 6>this problem. But he tried to fix the problem. Everybody

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<v Speaker 6>has tried to fix the problem. He tried a new approach. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and he may have kicked it down the road longer

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<v Speaker 6>than everybody else, but we're still having to deal with

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<v Speaker 6>the problem. But what's not America first is getting us

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<v Speaker 6>bogged down into another war in the Middle East with

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<v Speaker 6>troops on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Glenn Beck on Mark Alprin's show yesterday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>making the argument that you know, we kicked the can

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<v Speaker 1>further down the road with a new approach, so have

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<v Speaker 1>an optimistic view of this.

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<v Speaker 5>And we don't want to get bogged down into endless

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<v Speaker 5>two and a half month wars that were only like

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<v Speaker 5>four weeks of three weeks of fighting. See that whole

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<v Speaker 5>endless wars bogged down in wars thing you gotta have

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<v Speaker 5>like a long war or get bogged down to throw

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<v Speaker 5>that around. But anyway, this is the defense of the

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<v Speaker 5>Deal segment. James Lindsay, friend of the Armstrong Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 5>We're big fans partly because James does not give a

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<v Speaker 5>crap what he's supposed to think. He thinks independently, which

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<v Speaker 5>is how he launched his anti woke crusade. Brilliant anti

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<v Speaker 5>woke crusade from Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>He might be the most independent I say whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>think guy on Earth. Yeah, love Jack, You love to

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<v Speaker 1>know what his model is for making a living, how

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<v Speaker 1>he makes money and how you Anyway, he angers everyone

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<v Speaker 1>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he does, so. He writes my logic here.

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<v Speaker 5>All starts with this seemingly rogue comments with his trump

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<v Speaker 5>seemingly rogue comments about around keeping rockets and missiles, which

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<v Speaker 5>has freaked out many, particularly Israelis and their supporters.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack.

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned that as well, very generous. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you get to keep building rockets. Everybody has rockets.

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<v Speaker 9>It's fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm betting the Gulf States are really uncomfortable like israel

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<v Speaker 5>Is with that statement. They're not stupid, They're also targets

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<v Speaker 5>like Israel is less, but a lot in the IRGC

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<v Speaker 5>or crazy bastards makes me think Trump made it for them.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing is they didn't do their parts and aren't yet,

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<v Speaker 5>and yet Trump's definitely pissed at them because they straight

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<v Speaker 5>up didn't help during the war so far. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>even let us use their airspace and try to close

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<v Speaker 5>down our military basis.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true in.

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<v Speaker 5>A couple of cases, definitely not true in a couple

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<v Speaker 5>more cases, but we'll go on. Trump didn't like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and he didn't forget no way, So Trump letting them

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<v Speaker 5>feel some legitimate heat that can be resolved by accomplishing

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<v Speaker 5>his primary goals makes a lot of basic sense. If

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<v Speaker 5>we remember Trump's goals and work backwards, it's actually a

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<v Speaker 5>little easier to see how this makes sense, even though

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<v Speaker 5>the MoU with its big carrot big stick arrangement that

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<v Speaker 5>basically nobody believes will stick, thus terrifying Israel. But I'll

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<v Speaker 5>bet also those Gulf states. So what are Trump's goals?

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<v Speaker 5>One expand the Abraham Accords two KSA alliging formally with Israel,

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<v Speaker 5>which was happening until October seventh disrupted it. Thus restoring

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<v Speaker 5>a pre ten to seven piece agenda. Does he ksa

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<v Speaker 5>which one is that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyway one of.

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<v Speaker 5>The major leaders in the Middle East, I guess three

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<v Speaker 5>increase their overall security dependence on the US and Israel,

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<v Speaker 5>thus shifting some of their hand in the region to US,

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<v Speaker 5>and for standard trump Ism one to one, make them

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<v Speaker 5>active participants in their own security arrangements, just like what

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<v Speaker 5>he's doing with the EU and Pacific countries. No more

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<v Speaker 5>America carrying all the weight. The MoU itself creates conditions

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<v Speaker 5>by which Iran becomes agentic in this. If they behave

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<v Speaker 5>and they won't, they get rewarded, which they actually want bigley.

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<v Speaker 5>If they misuse that, and everybody expects they will, they

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<v Speaker 5>will get a well deserved stick. Everyone in the region

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<v Speaker 5>feels this fear and is vigilant about it. Essentially, he

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<v Speaker 5>says it's a very high risk, but it's a very

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<v Speaker 5>high stakes game. Heighst in decades that Trump is saying

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<v Speaker 5>to the Gulf States, Okay, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't help us.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to stop then, and we're going to see

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<v Speaker 5>what happens next. And Iran is really really pissed at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's see if they behave. If you don't think

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<v Speaker 5>they do, maybe you ought to reconsider how much you

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<v Speaker 5>help us.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ksa is the actual leader of Saudi Arabia, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why he goes with that guy since everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows he's not actually in charge it to his son MBS.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I'm trying to follow this.

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<v Speaker 1>So Trump says, you wouldn't let us fly over your airspace,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't join in help us everything like that, So

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<v Speaker 1>screw you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ran gets rockets and that helps us out.

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<v Speaker 5>Well because it will terrify everybody else into joining together

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<v Speaker 5>with Israel in a brand new Abraham Affords with the

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<v Speaker 5>US unity. Wow, it's a version of what's going on

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<v Speaker 5>in Europe where and they doubled down on this recently,

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<v Speaker 5>And I like half the strategy of saying, look, you

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<v Speaker 5>got to pay your fair share to NATO or we're

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<v Speaker 5>out as a way to strengthen the alliance.

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<v Speaker 2>But this case would be like we're actually I see

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<v Speaker 2>you with putin to strengthen NATO.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this case would be like we're actually helping

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<v Speaker 1>arm Russia to make the thread even worse so that

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<v Speaker 1>NATO will come around. I mean because we're helping Iran

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<v Speaker 1>rearm telling me, yeah, you can have rockets to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get our allies on board.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting plan. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>The comments are really really interesting, some skeptical, some encouraging.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take a break for this for a while because

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not for everybody, But we have to

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<v Speaker 1>play the clip of Trump later explaining the whole rockets thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's really interesting. Iran gets rockets. All the other

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<v Speaker 1>countries have rockets. Why doesn't Iran get rockets? Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>same reason a criminal doesn't get a gun but a

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<v Speaker 1>law abiding citizen does. The other countries aren't firing off

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<v Speaker 1>rockets all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>JB comments, people need to f out, have some patience.

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<v Speaker 5>Let the team trump cook. And another guy says, I've

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<v Speaker 5>said the three dimensional chess things so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>Never again, ha gone. Oh boy, we got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more other stuff on the way. If you miss a

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<v Speaker 2>get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 9>And guy comes out and says, dude, buffets here, he

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<v Speaker 9>wants to meet you.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm like, that's big money.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I am way too amorated to say a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to this guy.

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<v Speaker 9>I started talking to finances meet Buffett out shake his hand,

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<v Speaker 9>and man, we have the best conversation I've.

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<v Speaker 6>Ever had in my life.

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<v Speaker 7>The man is literally smiling from the ear to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, I'm gonna be rich here soon. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>Baker in the Vine investments.

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<v Speaker 9>And he starts telling a story in high school when

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<v Speaker 9>he he picked up the guitar for the first time,

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<v Speaker 9>and I was like, no, wait or Buffet played the

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<v Speaker 9>guitar and then got tapped on the shoulder because he

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<v Speaker 9>had to go sing Margueritaville.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a well told story. That's Travis kelcey football player.

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<v Speaker 1>That was well constructed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you got a chance to listen to the Kelsey

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<v Speaker 5>Brothers podcast. I highly haven't other than clips i've heard,

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<v Speaker 5>but yeah, they're both terrific communicators.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So so Travis Kelsey. He was super hammered drunk. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>told him Buffett is here. He thought he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go talk to Warren Buffett, the finance financier, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the World Church's men.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was Jimmy Buffett, who was also quite the businessman.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, it's pretty funny

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<v Speaker 5>that is not a dumb football player there.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, he is going to make a ton of money

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<v Speaker 1>in the announcing world. Then when his career is over,

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to. Of course, he's marrying Taylor Swift,

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<v Speaker 1>so he doesn't really need to make a living, right,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on you know, what their agreement looks like. The

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<v Speaker 1>amount of travel in the sportscaster businesses is underappreciated.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I had uneasy life. You make, you make

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<v Speaker 5>good money, but it's it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a friend who was a sportscaster, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had never realized or thought about it before, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a brutal for nine months of the year. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this I don't know if this is the same data

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<v Speaker 1>you were working off yesterday, and I didn't have much

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<v Speaker 1>to say about it for whatever reason, But looking at

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<v Speaker 1>it today, it's really striking me as interesting. The opinion

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<v Speaker 1>piece a guest essay in the New York Times. We

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<v Speaker 1>liked remote work. Then we looked at the data.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four, nearly eighty percent of workers said they would be

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<v Speaker 1>happiest if they could work remotely. Then it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>it makes a lot of us miserable. And some of

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<v Speaker 1>the information around that is amazing. People in remote work

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<v Speaker 1>jobs who work from home three times more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>have mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>Issues at people who don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Now that it'd be this sort of person that

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<v Speaker 1>decides to work remotely has mental health problems so doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be in the workplace around other people. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be like a self selecting sort of thing there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I would tend to think not though, because we humans,

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<v Speaker 5>and if an introvert like me is absolutely certain of this,

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<v Speaker 5>it's probably true. We humans are a social beast. We're

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<v Speaker 5>meant to interact with each other a lot, and there's

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<v Speaker 5>a real risk of isolation working remotely, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This person writing this essay did remote work and then

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this piece saying, we started to wonder whether we,

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<v Speaker 1>along with roughly thirty five million other Americans who worked

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<v Speaker 1>from home, had stepped into an enormous social experiment. Was

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<v Speaker 1>remote work as liberating as it felt. We searched for

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<v Speaker 1>answers in the data and came up with the uncomfortable truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite its advantages, remote work has significantly deepened America's isolation

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<v Speaker 1>and distress, which we already had a big problem with

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<v Speaker 1>going into. As we know the famous book Bowling Alone,

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<v Speaker 1>which was written I think in the nineties, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is indicating way back then that we are all hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out by ourself and bowling alone means we're not joining

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<v Speaker 1>bowling leagues or anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, we're staying home by ourselves.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of which, there's a new study out Harvard. You

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<v Speaker 5>know what it should be known for, not scholarship, mental illness.

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<v Speaker 5>More on that to come. Harvard University might be the

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<v Speaker 5>craziest place in America.

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<v Speaker 2>More on that coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Remote work explains a third of the deterioration and mental

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<v Speaker 1>health over the last fifteen years. This research says a

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<v Speaker 1>third of the mental health deterioration is because of remote work.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder, I wonder. Let me bottom line it for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Like virtually everything in human experience, going into the office,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a pain in the ass, in a hassle for

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<v Speaker 5>all the reasons everybody knows. But we were getting some

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<v Speaker 5>thing from it that we probably didn't fully appreciate. Working

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<v Speaker 5>remotely gives us some good stuff, no doubt, But we're

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<v Speaker 5>missing out on things we didn't really realize we would

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<v Speaker 5>miss out on.

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<v Speaker 1>So h I'm a missing throat. But and I went

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<v Speaker 1>into We kept working throughout COVID and going into work and.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we're so brave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well no, partly because I'd rather be at the

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<v Speaker 1>workplace than alone in my bedroom doing you know the

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<v Speaker 1>show from home. Eighty four percent of remote workers spend

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<v Speaker 1>their workday entirely alone. You go into the workplace, there's

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<v Speaker 1>almost zero chance you spend your work day entirely alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go from zero workers to eighty four percent

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<v Speaker 1>of workers. If you go from at work to at home.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite a difference.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've worked remotely a lot and I like it,

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<v Speaker 5>but there's absolutely a downside. But our job is like

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<v Speaker 5>constant interaction. Maybe not necessarily in the same room when

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<v Speaker 5>one of us is remote, but it's constant interaction. If

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<v Speaker 5>I'm typing into a computer, crunching numbers or sending emails

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<v Speaker 5>and that sort of thing, I could see it being like, really,

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<v Speaker 5>it could really make you weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And if you're a certain sort of personality, and

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of them, probably going into a workplace forces

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>me to interact with people. I'm not going to seek

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<v Speaker 1>it out on my own otherwise, is what it says here.

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<v Speaker 1>These workers who worked entirely alone remotely did not compensate

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<v Speaker 1>by socializing more outside of work.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably wouldn't either.

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<v Speaker 1>More days passed with zero social contact of any kind.

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I could easily see that happening to me. I mean,

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:46.679
<v Speaker 1>I got kids, so I got that going on, and

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that drags me out of the house. But if I

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't have kids and I worked from home, I could

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<v Speaker 1>easily see many days going by where I didn't interact

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<v Speaker 1>with another human being.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be effortless.

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no hello from an officemate, no idle chit chat

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>with a barista, no nod to a fellow commuter. These

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>lost interactions are not trivial. In one study, when commuters

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 1>were instructed to connect with strangers near them, they reported

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>being happier than those who continued in silence.

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 2>As usual, much to their own surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>We are as you started with, We're built for social interaction,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Wow, how much of our mental health problem

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>is even before the pandemic, the trend toward working from home,

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, it really exploded. I was trying

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>to find the quote from Thomas Jefferson. I read it

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>as a teenager, and it it's so echoed who I

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>am that I thought, oh my god, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the quote?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I don't have to pick that cotton myself.

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<v Speaker 5>You are such an a hole as we approach our

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 5>nation's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, and you know better,

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<v Speaker 5>you know better than to go there now.

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 2>He talked about that that is trolling, is what that is?

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 2>That is just some fairly effective trolling.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Uh, his histro he realized his inclination was toward

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<v Speaker 5>uh isolation.

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<v Speaker 2>He was an introvert, very much an introvert.

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 5>He was known just as an aside as the silent

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 5>member of the Continental Congress. He almost never spoke in

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.479
<v Speaker 5>front of the crowd. He was so introverted and and

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 5>being in crowds so drained him. He would much rather

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 5>write letters or write at home and think and read

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 5>and that sort of thing. He was fine one on one,

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<v Speaker 5>but you hated across anyway.

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>He said his.

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 5>Natural inclination was toward isolation. But he realized if he

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 5>indulged that it made him weird and angry. So he

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 5>forced himself to seek the company of others at regular

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 5>intervals to keep himself from you being what's that, what's

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 5>the what's the term? You're too you you fall into yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I'll have to all have have to work on

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that someday in retirement. If my kids are out of

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the house and I'm retired, I could see months going by.

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>How many years has it been since I interacted with

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>another human? I might think to myself, Surely I did

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<v Speaker 1>last year, didn't I?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe not saying yes when they ask you, did you

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<v Speaker 5>find everything okay?

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<v Speaker 2>At the grocery store? Is not interacting the door dash.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's not interactions. Interact by door dash dah.

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 2>He's at the door. Hide, be quiet, be quiet, Just

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>don't let them know we're home. Son.

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<v Speaker 1>The pain was not evenly shared here, it says here

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>people who lived with their spouse and kids. Yeah, to

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>my point about kids saw their mental health hold fairly

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>steady because you're interacting with, you know, other people there,

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>while those who lived alone experienced a twenty percent decrease

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>in mental well being. Twenty percent's a lot, nikes, A

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>little more on that after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, this is interesting and I'll just hit you with this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something to watch out for if you work

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>remote or you end up working remote because of AI

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 2>So why do so many people like remote work.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Even saying they would accept pay cuts of between four

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and ten percent depending on the poll, for the opportunity

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>to work at home, Like, why did we desire it

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>so much if it makes us miserable? One reason is

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that remotes work costs are subtle and slow. When loneliness

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>sets in gradually, it is natural to blame other life

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>changes rather than the remote work. Well, I've got a

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>new job, or I had a breakup or a fight

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>with a friend, or I'm getting older, or whatever reason

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you come up with for kind of feeling off, and

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't point to the remote work.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I could believe that because we have the assumption that

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously this is making me happier. I don't have to

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>go to work every day, I don't have to fight traffic,

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to put on a bra. I can't

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>tell you how many women I've heard say I haven't

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>put on a bra in two weeks, you know, because

0:29:54.240 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of working at home. Yes, freedom interesting, that's something that

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>could be really stering us in the face. If you're

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>not working remotely, you're living off.

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 5>DeLine interaction universal base makes you crazy on its own.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>When when AI takes all these jobs and you know

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you're living off universal basic income. As it says here,

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the remote work didn't cause people to use that time

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to go out and interact socially.

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Nope, we didn't.

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>So the universal basic income if that occurs because of AI,

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>according to this experience, people aren't going to substitute it

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>with other social interactions. They're just going to be alone

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>all the time. That'll really exacerbate our mental health problem.

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I hope I live long enough to watch this. It's

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be depressing, but it's going to be interesting.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 5>The more I think about this, the more mind blowing

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 5>it is that human society was designed in such a way,

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 5>maybe accidentally or maybe it was design. And the way

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 5>it was designed because it had to be farmers bringing

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 5>their crops and shopkeepers doing this and you know trade's

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 5>been you know, having people there in the leather store

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 5>or whatever, and that was the reality for so very long.

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 5>The human psyche depends on it. We need it, We're

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 5>built for it. And that's for the millionth time. The

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 5>amount of change is dizzying, The pace of change is toxic.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure, we can take it as a species.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 5>Got how much craziest people on Earth? The Ivy League

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 5>stay with us?

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, let's do that next, and a bunch of

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>other stuff, So stay here. Javin Newsom and his wife

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>might actually be in trouble. They may They might be

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty nervous right now, these investigations into their finances. We

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>can get into that a little bit in hour three.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 5>Well, I saw it charted out for me. Yeah, they

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 5>ought to be worried about it. We will definitely delve

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 5>into that hour three. I've got a gender bending madness

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 5>update to squeeze in before the end of the show.

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 5>And Michael, I don't remember did metal guy do a

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 5>Seattle isst crumbling for us? It's too bad, because we've

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 5>got a great seattlest crumbling update. Their woman child communist

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 5>mayor is well.

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>She's doing what of course she's doing.

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>She's ruining the city as our socialists everywhere.

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Socialism sucks and it.

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 5>Never works, or on that to come. Oh and including

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 5>the fact that you know the woman child in Seattle

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 5>who's mommy and daddy pay for like a good deal

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 5>of their their expenses, her and her husband and and

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 5>like I can't remember the full involvement of it, but

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 5>she still gets an allowance from her parents and all,

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 5>and she wants to be the major of a big

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 5>mayor of big city. Oh yeah, she's still on mom

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 5>and dad's payroll, and not just the cell phone plan.

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Everybody is.

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 5>But seriously, yeah, they like pay for her expensive expenses.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 5>She is a child who preaches the naive politics of

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 5>children and got elected for it, just like Mamdannie, who

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 5>is no child. Mamdannie is in his lomist mastermind, but

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 5>just found out. James Tallerico, the rock star Democrat in Texas,

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 5>the woke guy who's hoping to win back a Senate

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 5>set for Democrats. He has one checking account that he

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 5>shares with his mommy. He's still on his mom's checking account.

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 5>And you know, as much as I would just like

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 5>to mock these people, and I have a feeling we will.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 5>That is absolutely it absolutely fits with the idea of

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 5>permanent dependence on mom and dad and on the government.

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 5>Nobody should be in dependent and captain of their own

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 5>ship and go out into the world and achieve what

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 5>they can and have ups and downs, but own what

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 5>they got at the end. Now, everyone should be dependent,

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 5>and it's too much to ask to go get a job,

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 5>and that's be on my own, I know, isn't It's

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 5>it's really interesting.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, in Mamdanie, he never really had a job. He

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>was on mom and dad's payroll the whole time.

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 5>Anyway, speaking of being on the payroll, I don't want

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 5>to belabor this because we've been over it more than once,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 5>but it's striking. Harvard students are twice as mentally ills

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 5>as the general population. The entire IVY League is part

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 5>of an emerging mental health political identity crisis. Forty seven

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:48.760
<v Speaker 5>percent of surveyed seniors indicate that they experienced mental illness

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 5>at some point in their time at Harvard. Thirteen percent

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 5>said maybe, So that takes you to sixty percent, more

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 5>than double the rate of the general US population.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>We will concede for the sake of the argument that.

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 5>The overly online smartphone world that we have injected our

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 5>children into is terrible for them, and there is some

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 5>legitimate cause here that the world around them has made

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 5>them crazier than they would have been otherwise. There's also

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 5>the narcissism of small distinctions. If you can say, yeah,

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 5>I've got for instance, terrible anxiety or whatever. People care

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 5>about that. You get attention, you get a hug, whatever.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 5>And there's plenty of anxiety and depression that's real as well.

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 5>There are all sorts of different things going on here.

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 5>And I'll just throw in real quickly. Yale's numbers are astounding,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 5>Princeton's numbers are horrifying, and they go into a bunch

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 5>of the different schools.

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 2>They're all just over, just off the charts.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, you also have to picture, as we have learned

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.760
<v Speaker 1>over the years, First of all, the whole college ratings

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>thing is complete BS, and then the how you get

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>into colleges is complete BS. So it's all about the

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of parents who jump through the hoops to get

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>their kids to go to these colleges. Well, picture those

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of parents. Are they gonna have kids who check

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the box for mental illness?

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Them and their parents? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>And the other thing going on We've talked about this,

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<v Speaker 5>and I find it fascinating, particularly in terms of young women,

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<v Speaker 5>is that the very philosophy progressivism makes you miserable because

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<v Speaker 5>you are always, you know, boiling in the stew of

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<v Speaker 5>oppression and wrongdoing and racism and misogyny and Islamophobia and

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<v Speaker 5>everyone's a victim and the evil doers are oppressing us.

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<v Speaker 5>If you obsessed with that all day long, of course

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to be miserable. And there's a new paper

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<v Speaker 5>out by a professor at Utah State, just a little melancholic,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe a little blue. Mental health is an Emerging political Identity,

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<v Speaker 5>just published a couple months ago, describing what the professor

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<v Speaker 5>called an emerging mental health political identity that is most

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<v Speaker 5>pronounced among younger gen z and more liberal Americans. We

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<v Speaker 5>can get more into that set of ideas coming up

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<v Speaker 5>as well. We got a lot to squeeze in today.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna see Gavin Newsom's wife in shackles shuffling

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<v Speaker 1>her way in an orange jumpsuit into the back of

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<v Speaker 1>a van.

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<v Speaker 6>What the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly hope so.

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<v Speaker 5>Plus Jade Vance's political career is dying in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 5>Oh so much.

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<v Speaker 2>To squeeze him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you miss a segment of the podcast Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty