1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wellness, sun Mass. I'm doctor Nicole Sapphire. I 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: hope everyone's enjoying March and it's starting to look like 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: spring wherever you are. I just came back from being 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: away for two weeks, and I was cold and wet 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: for about those whole two weeks. I was away half 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: of it. I was kind of in a colder climate 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: with a lot of rain, and then we went skiing. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: So I was excited to come back home, thinking, hey, 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: maybe spring has sprung, because I was getting reports from 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: home that it had been warm and sunny while we 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: are away. Well, it's cold and rainy. I guess we 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: brought that cold and rainy weather with us. But that's okay. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm starting to see the buds on trees. I believe 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: spring is on its way. I'm going to maintain that 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: positive outlook and hope we don't have a last minute 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: snowstorm at the end of March. Sometimes that happens here 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: in the Northeast. But you know, fingers crossed, We're going 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: to think positively. I was kind of perusing topics on 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: my flight home, like what are we going to talk 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: about this week? And I've tried to stay away from 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: being online while I was away. That's a big thing 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: I do. But there's a lot of talk about vaccines, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: the fact that the CDC is in an entire state 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: of disarray. They're running on a deadline. They have to 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: appoint a CDC director, they still haven't confirmed the surgeon 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: in general the AHHS right now, it's kind of a mess, 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk about it though, because 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: we've talked about it a lot. There's not a lot 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: of new information going on right now, so we're not 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: going to waste this episode talking about that. But maybe 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: we'll have an update for the rundown later this week. 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: What I did see was a small study, mind you, 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: very small study. But studies like this kind of pique 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: my interests because my common sense tells me that this 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: is an issue, and when I actually see in writing, 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: I get a little bit nervous, and I wonder if 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing enough as a mom, and I wonder if 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: as a society we're doing enough. So let's just talk 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: about it. Essentially, what I saw was, again a very 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: small study published in the Journal of Endocrine Society, raising 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: concerns that these forever chemicals. I'm not sure if you've 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: heard that term before. You probably have, But when you 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: talk about quote unquote forever chemicals, we're talking about pfas 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: per and polyfloral alcohol substances. These chemicals they're everywhere. They're 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: in our water, they're in our food, they're in our cookware. 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: They're also in our clothing. We've mentioned them here on 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: Wellness and mass. But I want to kind of dive 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: into the study a little bit more, breaking down what 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: the study found, what we already know about pfast in health, 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: and most importantly, what we can do about it. So 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: let's start with this new study. It was a prospective 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: birth cohort study, which usually when you see studies like this, 53 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: they're retrospective, meaning they're looking back at old data and 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: there's usually a lot of confounding factors. But this is 55 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: interesting because this was a prospective study looking at two 56 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen children. Obviously, that's a small number in 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: the world of research and tracking the p fast exposure 58 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: from birth through age twelve. Researchers measured p fast levels 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: at multiple time points at birth, you know, their cored blood, 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: seeing how much they were exposed to in utero via 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: their mother, age three, age eight, and age twelve. Then 62 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: they looked at the bone mineral density at the age 63 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: twelve because this is a really critical time for bone 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: development as kids in their pre adolescence, as their hormones 65 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: are starting to change, their growth plates are starting to close. 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: This is when you look at how strong are those bones, 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: how well are they growing and developing. And here's what 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: they found in the study. Higher levels of PFOA, which 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: is one of the most common p fasts, were consistently 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: associated with lower bone density, particularly in the forearm. Forearm 71 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: is the area between your elbow and your wrist. We 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: look at these bones when we're trying to gauge the 73 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: age of a patient's bones and how well the bones are. 74 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: The effect appeared stronger in girls and boys, but most importantly, 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: timing matter, meaning exposure during certain developmental windows had different 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: impacts on the bone. So that's interesting right now. Again, 77 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: not a massive study. I want to continue to say 78 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: there's always limitations with studies, but this study is significant 79 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 1: because it followed children over time, it looked at real 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: life exposure, and it reinforces what we've already been seeing 81 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: in earlier data that these chemicals may be interfering with 82 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: how children are growing, specifically how children build bone during 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: the most critical years of development, because bone health it's 84 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: not just about childhood. About forty percent of total bone 85 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: mass is built during adolescence, you know, kind of our 86 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: eleven through fifteen eleven through sixteen years of age. And 87 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: if that process is disrupted even slightly, it can lower 88 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: total bone mass, It can increase fracture risk, it can 89 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: raise the likelihood of osteoporosis later in life, and it 90 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: can also affect you know, how tall or how well 91 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: the child grows. The mechanism here is concerning in the 92 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: sense that, well, how is this impacting. Is it because 93 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: the pfasts are being directly deposited into the bone, or 94 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: are they endicin disruptors, which we kind of already known 95 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: about them, meaning they're interfering with hormones, the hormones that 96 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: are responsible for making bones grow. So the research, not 97 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: just this current study we're talking about, but existing research, 98 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: is that these p fass chemicals they think that maybe 99 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: they buying to vitamin D receptor and this is impairing 100 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: bone mineralization, you know, the bone from forming in the 101 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: first place. They also have shown that they could be 102 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: disrupting thyroid hormones. Thyroid hormones are very important for our 103 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: overall body formation. It impacts our physical health, our immune health, 104 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: our mental health, all of those. It can also affect 105 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: sex hormones during puberty, which has been largely discussed in 106 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: the sense that we are having lower fertility rates on 107 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: the female side. Also on the male side, we're also 108 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: seeing higher levels of polycystic ovariance syndrome and other things, 109 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: and it has been pointed to well, we believe that 110 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: there are external factors that are disrupting the normal endocrine channels, 111 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: and these forever chemicals are probably one of them. But 112 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: it's not just about environmental exposure. This is all about 113 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: biological interference during our development. And yes, these things come 114 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: from our environment, but you know it's not just the 115 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: air breathe. We have to take a deeper look into 116 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: what actually contains all of these forever chemicals, you know, 117 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: these endocrine disruptors. So this study, it's just one piece 118 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: of a much larger puzzle. Because pfasts are called forever 119 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: chemicals for a reason. They don't break down in the environment. 120 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: They accumulate in the body and they can remain there 121 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: for years. Even decades. In fact, their half life in 122 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: humans is estimated to be anywhere from two years to 123 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: nine years. If you think about that. If you think 124 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: an exposure to a chemical on day one, and it's 125 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: going to last for at least nine years throughout your body, 126 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: if you are continuously exposed to that chemical, just think 127 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: about how much accumulates. Of course, it's going to affect 128 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the body, and the exposure obviously starts early. Babies are 129 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: exposed to these forever chemicals in utero, because adults are 130 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: being exposed to them as well. We already know from 131 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: other data these forever chemicals can cross the placenta. They're 132 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: also found in breast milk, and children are exposed through water, food, 133 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: and household products. For babies that use formula, okay, maybe 134 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: they're avoiding it from the breast milk, but let's talk 135 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: about that water. You're mixing the formula in forever chemicals 136 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: in that water too. Now, other research has linked these 137 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: forever chemical exposures to what we're talking about today, you know, 138 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: the lower bone density. They've also linked it to reduced 139 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: growth and lean body mass in early childhood, meaning the 140 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: amount of muscle neurodevelopmental changes and brain structure differences. People 141 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: are continuously talking about their rise in autism rates. Well, 142 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: we also have data showing that these forever chemicals are 143 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: disrupting neurons and brain development, also adverse birth outcomes, including 144 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: low birth weight and pre term birth. For women who 145 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: are exposed to more forever chemicals, their babies are born 146 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: smaller and sometimes they're even or prematurely. So it's pretty 147 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: clear that these forever chemicals are affecting us in many 148 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: different ways. And beyond children, we're also seeing associations with 149 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: fertility issues like I've mentioned, hormonal disruption, like we've mentioned 150 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: cardiovascular effects. They've actually looked at arteries throughout the body, 151 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, the little tubes that take your oxygenated blood 152 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: from the heart and it feeds the nutrients all throughout 153 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: the body. Instead of just these plaques that we have 154 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: always seen, these plaques that are created by cholesterol that 155 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: cause our athoschlorotic disease or our heart disease or peripheral 156 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: vascular disease you've heard about. Well, now that they're starting 157 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: to look in these arteries and do you know what 158 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,239 Speaker 1: else they're seeing. They're seeing microplastics, they're seeing forever chemicals. 159 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: All of these external things that we are exposed to 160 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: are building up into our vascular system. So if our 161 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: poor diet wasn't enough, we have forever chemicals that are 162 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: trying to narrow all these blood vessels. As you know, 163 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: as they get narrowed, it can cause stroke, dementia, heart attack, 164 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: peripheral neuropathy, peripheral vascularities, and all these other things. It 165 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: can affect us in so many different ways, kidney disease 166 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: and other things, blindness, I mean, the list goes on 167 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: and on and on. It also can affect our immune system. 168 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: So while this new study is focusing just on bone health, 169 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: the broader concern is absolutely clear. These chemicals are interacting 170 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: with not just one part of our body, but our 171 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: entire body. Our entire health is being negatively impacted by 172 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: these forever chemicals. And honestly, it's a big waste basket 173 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: in the sense that if you're talking about forever chemicals, 174 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: you might as well talk about microplastics and nanoplastics because 175 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: they're all part of the same thing. They're all part 176 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: of the exposure because of all of these modern day 177 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: inventions which we love so much, but when they were invented. 178 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: They didn't think about the long term consequences of the 179 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: exposure to some of the materials that they were putting 180 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: in things that were making them so convenient, Like what 181 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: are the most common sources for these forever chemicals. Well, 182 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: things that we love, things that make our life super convenient. 183 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: So drinking water, we've talked about this, especially near industrial sites, 184 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: military bases, nonstick cookware, fast food packaging, and any sort 185 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: of plastic wrappers, stain resistant fabrics and carpets. That's right, 186 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: we just spray at all with chemicals. It's great for 187 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: stopping stains, but we're exposed to it. Think about when 188 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: you're laying on the carpet, especially kids love to lay 189 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: on the carpets. My kids love being on the carpets. 190 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: They play with the dogs on there. Well, what are 191 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: they absorbing through their skin when they're laying on that carpet. 192 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Personal care products like cosmetics, lotions, lipsticks, anything that you're 193 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: putting on your body is being absorbed into your body 194 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: because our skin is one of our largest organ systems 195 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: and it absorbs things. If you're laying your skin, I 196 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: mean I put on lotion at least twice a day, 197 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: what am I actually putting on my body? If you 198 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: look at some of the ingredients it's concerning, It's not 199 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: like we're just putting on olive oil, which is probably 200 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: the only thing we should be rubbing our body in. 201 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying that because I'm Italian and 202 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of olive oil as a moisturizer. But 203 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: the reality is most of the stuff that we put 204 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: all over our body has chemicals in it. And most importantly, though, 205 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: kids are often more exposed than adults, mainly because it's 206 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: affecting them more because their body's constantly changing, so as 207 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: they're being exposed to this, their cells are dividing a 208 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: little bit faster and it can really disrupt their formation. 209 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: So here's the part for me at least, that matters 210 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: the most. It's I hate talking about some of these 211 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: things because it's like, well, we can't avoid these forever chemicals, really, 212 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: unless we're going to go and live in a glass 213 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: bubble and never be exposed to any sort of toxin. 214 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not reality. It's not reality in 215 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: the modern industrialized world that we live in. But there 216 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: really are some things that you can do to decrease 217 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: exposure to these forever chemicals, especially if you are considering 218 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: getting pregnant, if you're pregnant, if you have young children 219 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: in the home, you should really start taking some of 220 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: these steps. I'm going to try and start taking. I 221 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: already have actually in my home. But here's some some 222 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: easy things that you can do. Filter your water. Don't 223 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: just take it out of the tap. Look for filters 224 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: that are certified for pfas removal. They will actually say 225 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: that on the labels. Specifically, I don't know if you 226 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: want to write this down, but if you specifically look 227 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: for NSF slash ANSI fifty three or fifty eight. These 228 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: are supposed to be certified to remove p FAST from 229 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: the water. This is one of the highest impact changes 230 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: you can make because that is one of the biggest 231 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: sources of our consumption and exposure of these forever chemicals 232 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: through the water that we drink. Also, rethink cookware. Listen, 233 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: I get it. Nonstick pans. They're amazing. I used to 234 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: love them. We've actually gotten rid of nonstick pans in 235 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: my household. We have now switched to ceramic and cast 236 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: iron and that's all we use, and we don't use 237 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: plastic spatulas on these, just again as a way to 238 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: reduce the microplastics. Listen, Seramic not nearly as easy to 239 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: cook eggs on full disclosure, And you know, we love 240 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: eggs in our household. I have hens. We cook eggs 241 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: maybe four or five days a week because I just 242 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: think they're incredible for nutrients and protein. And since we 243 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: have the hens outside, it's a you know, I am 244 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: able to control what's going into the hens and therefore 245 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: what's being consumed by my family. I do not love 246 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: cooking eggs on ceramic, but I will tell you it's 247 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: worth it. In my opinion, it's worth the headache a 248 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: little bit. Instead of having a nonstick pan. We do 249 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: have one tiny nonstick pan in case we ever really 250 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: want it for eggs, but I'm trying really hard not 251 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: to use it. But I do reserve the right to 252 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: use it occasionally, because I'll tell you sometimes it's very 253 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: difficult eggs on those ceramic pans. Now, you should try 254 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: to reduce package and fast foods for many reasons. The 255 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: forever chemicals, the microplastics, and the fact that they're usually ultraprocessed, 256 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: which there's a plethora of data that tells us ultra 257 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: process is bad for our health anyway. So those takeout containers, 258 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: anything that's wrapped in plastic, if you can avoid them, 259 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: I highly recommend avoiding it. When you're at the grocery store. 260 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: Do your best to stay in the periphery of the 261 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: grocery store for your fresh fruits and vegetables and meats, 262 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: and avoid everything in the center because that tends to 263 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: be more ultra processed, tends to be more plastic in 264 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,359 Speaker 1: that area. Whatever you can do. Anything that's stained resistant, 265 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, stain resistant, stain resistant, blankets and carpets, anything 266 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: labeled waterproof, wrinkle free, stain resistant, high probability. They have 267 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: some sort of pea fasts, you know, forever chemicals in it, 268 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: unless it is specifically labeled P fast free, so you know, 269 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: as you're shopping for things, you can actually look for 270 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: that on the label P fast free. That's the way 271 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: to go. It sounds horrible, but like raincoats, most of 272 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: them have forever chemicals and it's awful. I'm sorry we're 273 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: all still going to keep wearing rain coats. I get it, 274 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: but I just want to make you aware of these 275 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: things right in your house. You want to use HEPA 276 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: filters if possible. Make sure you're constantly changing your HVAC filters. 277 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Try to reduce exposure through the air, because we take 278 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: the air from the outside and it's coming inside. Dust 279 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: in our house can kind of cling to those forever chemicals, 280 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: So I have some air purifiers in our household. You know, 281 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: we do try to change our h BAC filter on 282 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: a regular basis. But on top of that, I do 283 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: have some HEPA indoor filters. One because a couple people 284 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: in our household have really bad seasonal allergies, so I 285 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: try to keep the inside as clean as possible. We 286 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: also have dogs, and dogs bring in crap from the outside, 287 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: so we brush them. We clean them on a weekly basis, 288 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: and I just put in extra filters in size just 289 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: to try and decrease that dust and any other toxin exposure. 290 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: And I don't know that's really what you can do 291 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: from a lifestyle perspective. We also, since we can't reduce 292 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: our exposure entirely, some of the big things you can do, 293 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: especially in kids, make sure that they're getting enough calcium 294 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: and vitamin D since we know p fasts from this 295 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: study affects the vitamin D absorption, so that's how it 296 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: affects the bones. So make sure your kids are getting 297 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: vitamin D. In the wintertime, consider vitamin D supplementation because 298 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: if your kids are outside a good amount, you know, 299 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to be outside a ton to get 300 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: adequate vitamin D exposure from the sun. But in the wintertime, 301 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: when it's dark and gloomy and we have shorter sunlight hours, 302 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: you may want to consider vitamin D supplements. If they 303 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: don't drink enough milk. I mean, my kids thankfully love milk. 304 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: They have been drinking whole milk since they were one 305 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: year old. When they stop breastfeeding and they have a 306 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: glass of milk every single day. They also get adequate 307 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: sun exposure because vitamin D it's crucial for your physical health, 308 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: your mental health, and something that I have really tried 309 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: to educate my children on. You want to make sure 310 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: they're also doing weight bearing exercises. Weight bearing exercises keep 311 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: your bone strong, not just kids, adults too. Premenopausal, perimenopausal, 312 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: postmenopauseal ladies, I'm talking to you. Weightlifting very important for 313 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: our bone health as we get older. And no, I 314 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: don't want your kids going and lifting iron in the gym, 315 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: but they absolutely can be lifting light weights because you 316 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: want to make sure that they have the muscle mass 317 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: that is supporting their bone structure and that'll help them 318 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: have less bone injuries. Kids break bones all the time, 319 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: so if you have strong muscle around the bones, they're 320 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: less likely to break their bones. You know, Really, you 321 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: can get all of this from just a nutrient dense diet. 322 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: If your kids are getting enough fruits and vegetables and 323 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: meats and dairy, they're getting what they need unless they 324 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: have some sort of metabolic or nutritional deficiency, which obviously 325 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: you want to talk to your doctor about. But kids, 326 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: for the most part, don't need to be taking supplements. 327 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: They should be just having nutritious meals and getting enough 328 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: exercise and sun exposure. So obviously you know where I 329 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: land on this this new study. It's small, but it's meaningful, 330 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: and it just adds to a huge, growing body of 331 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: evidence that environmental exposures are really shaping long term health 332 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: in ways that we're only beginning to understand. And when 333 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: it comes to our kids, the bar should be set 334 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: so much higher. We don't need to panic, but we 335 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: also don't need to weight for absolutely certainty. We don't 336 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: need to wait for five or ten years for them 337 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, we've reviewed the data for the last 338 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: twenty years and uh oh, these few chemicals they're impacting 339 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: us negatively. There's enough evidence at this point for us 340 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: to say we need to be making some changes. I'm 341 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: making changes in my household. I'm imploring you to make 342 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: some changes in your household. Because by the time we 343 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: have perfect data, the exposures already happened, it's already accumulated. 344 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: So this is about awareness. It's about making some smart 345 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: choices where we can, reducing risk whenever possible, and just 346 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: pushing for better transparency and regulation where needed, because protecting 347 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: long term health it doesn't just happen. You know, your 348 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: doctor doesn't have to tell you this. Your doctor's probably 349 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: not going to have a conversation with you about forever chemicals. Okay, 350 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: this is on you. Take control, Take control of your household, 351 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: take control of your kid's environment, and also what you're 352 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: exposed to as well. We only live once, so it 353 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: starts in the environment that we create for ourselves and 354 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: our families every single day. Thank you so much for 355 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: listening to this important conversation. On Wellness on MASS. I 356 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: hope you learn something. I hope you think about it. 357 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you're going to make some changes. Maybe you won't 358 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: spread the word, spread the good word, because I think 359 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: this information is very important. I'm doctor Nicole Safire. 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