1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Brady. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer Alexis 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: code name Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Uh, We're so glad you 10 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: dropped by today, fellow conspiracy realist. Uh. This is one 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: of our favorite weekly segments, listener Mail, where we hear 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: from the best part of the show, you and your 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: fellow listeners, and peak behind the kurt of our recording. Today. 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be a little bit punchy. I 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: think I think we're gonna be coming with the strangeness. 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: We hope you enjoy this. We're going to uh, we're 17 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: gonna answer an incredibly great question from our pal road 18 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Runner on our call in line one std w y 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: t K. We're going to here's something we haven't examined yet, 20 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: weirdly enough, which is the phenomenon that until two thousand 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: and thirteen or so was called food deserts by the 22 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: US government. But before we get into any of that, 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: we've got we've got an email coming in hot from 24 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: a ghost of a particular morality who is very you know, 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: very concerned, um, very concerned about what you should or 26 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: should not fly a plane into. Yeah, pleasant enough, gentlemen, 27 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: But bad ghost. Maybe it's like a bad dog, not 28 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: not like you know, like like you smack you on 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: the nose of the newspaper. Because ghost what was that 30 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: name of that during the writer's strike, Neil Patrick Harris? Um, 31 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris had doctor not dr Evil, dr terrible, horrible, 32 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: very bad. That's naughty ghost. M Yeah, so we can 33 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: a horrible singalong blog or something like that. It's about 34 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: ghost so well, that's sort of it's about it's about 35 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: an act that could create a bunch of ghosts potentially 36 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: if it had gone off correctly or as intended. But 37 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: let's just dig in. Hey guys, I'm a fairly listener, 38 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: would love the podcast. Thanks, Um, you can call me 39 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: bad ghosts And boy, have we ever driven that one 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: into the ground already? And you have permission to use 41 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: my code name, this email and any formation on it 42 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: in your show, which we shall do directly. I live 43 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: in a small city just south of Memphis, Tennessee called 44 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Olive Branch, Mississippi. UM. That's that's the place where everyone 45 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: goes for a forgiveness. UM. Just a few days ago, 46 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: on September three, there was a man named Corey Wayne 47 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: Patterson who stole a fully fueled King Air ninety from 48 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: Tupelo Regional Airport and threatened to crash it into Tupelo 49 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Walmart and links in inn pr piece below. They ended 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: up evacuating the Walmart and a nearby convenience store as 51 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: a precaution, but they ended up talking the guy down 52 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: getting him to land the nearby bean field. Now I'm 53 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: no pilot, nor am I educated in the field of aviation, 54 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: but there are rumors that this type of plane is 55 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: very difficult to fly. I'm not sure of the specific 56 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: flight path, but from what I understand, it was a 57 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: very long, uh and um complicated one. It didn't make 58 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: a whole lot of sense. Uh. These rumors kind of 59 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: make it seeland. It could be some kind of false 60 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: flag or conspiracy type event because of how everything went down. Like, 61 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: how was he able to gain access to the plane 62 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: get it airborne? Um? The length and path taken by 63 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: the man piloting the plane, then the fact that he 64 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: warned ground control he planned on committing this act of terrorism, 65 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: then decided against it and safely landed this rather large 66 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: plane himself. I know you guys are a little more 67 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: educated in this area, but I'd love to hear what 68 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: you think. I know it made several news networks, but 69 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I like the NPR piece and it was the easiest 70 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: and most available to me as I writing this email. 71 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, looking forward to hearing back from y'all. 72 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: The bad ghost Um, yeah, this this made tons of news. Um, 73 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: the NPR pieces great. I had similar questions to you 74 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: bad ghosts. I think we may we all Did I 75 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: know this? This man worked at an airport, but wasn't 76 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: like a pilot. What was he like a baggage handler 77 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: or something? Did you guys digging into this story at all? 78 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Super suss? I agree? Very strange, and it's true this 79 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: plane is well a special lies the type of plane 80 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: you wouldn't just be able to like figure it out, 81 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: let alone land it safely. Um. According to the NPR article. No, 82 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: he fueled airplanes. So he was a person who actually 83 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: went through and made for airplanes, had sufficient fuel in 84 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: them before they would you know, take off or something, 85 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: so in preparation Awayne Patterson. That's right, which is a 86 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: certain set of skills, but it's not doesn't make you 87 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: a pilot or the ability to pilot those airplanes that 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: you are fueling. Uh, but no license. Yeah, but let's 89 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: let's exercise, if not empathy, let's let's assume the perspective here. 90 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: I've always thought it must it must be frustrating for 91 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: some aviation professionals to work on planes that they do 92 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: not fly. You know, it's like ever the bride's maid, 93 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: never the bride. You know, I've done all this work, 94 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: and now this this jerk gets to go actually have 95 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: fun with the crap. I'm sure a few people feel 96 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: that way. So, uh, maybe it just got too much 97 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: for him. But he he alerted authorities, right like he 98 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: proactive Patterson proactively contacted local law enforcement viet nine one 99 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: one right, that's right. The chief of police of Tupola 100 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: has a really amazing name. By the way, his name 101 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: is John Quaca or Kawaka. I don't know it's q 102 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: U A k A UM and he he He's made 103 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: some comments on on the on the incident, saying that 104 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: after leaving the airport, he immediately alerted emergency responsors of 105 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: his intention to do harm to the Walmart and particulably 106 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: you know those within Um, no one else on the plane. Um. 107 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: As bad Ghost said in the NPR piece, also said 108 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: that the Walmart in the nearby Dodges convenience store were evacuated. Um, 109 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: they had a hostage negotiator. I mean, it's not really 110 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: a hostage out of it is you should only holding 111 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: the people of Walmart and Tupelow hostage in a way 112 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: with your with your threats. Um. This book directly to 113 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Patterson as he kind of hovered over the city for hours. 114 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: But again like some instruction, but no pilot's license. This 115 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: is not like, you know, the kind of plane that 116 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: you you just anyone could have access to. And again 117 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm no, I don't know pilot or aviation, you know enthusiast, 118 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: even myself, but I can't imagine that all planes are 119 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: created equal. Now, you know what the when you look 120 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: at it, though, it does look like the kind of 121 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: little private plane for some reason I was picturing like 122 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: more of a commercial size plane. So this is from 123 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: the look of it, it does appear to be kind 124 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: of one of those little twin prop kind of deals. 125 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: That would be the kind of thing you would take 126 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: up take flying lessons in. But it's the stuff you 127 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: see you over here at p DK all the time. 128 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: At the airport. You can get you one for around 129 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: a million seven for a two thousand five model. Yeah, 130 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: in the maintenance, the maintenance itself can be a bit 131 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: of a bear. You know, you're making an excellent point 132 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: because a plane of any variety, whether you're talking super 133 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: secret stealth reconnaissance craft or whether you're talking a little 134 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: cessna the kind that you can famously weld onto a 135 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Ford pinto true story, whether it's whatever aircraft you're talking about, 136 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: you cannot, no matter how intelligent you are, you cannot 137 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: just hop in and uh poor choice of words here 138 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: winged it. They are complicated. So, uh, you know, it 139 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: makes sense that there would be a licensing regime for 140 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: these things. But also old do we have um any 141 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: insight into Patterson's mental state at the time? Did he stay? 142 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: I know he went on Facebook and I've found that, 143 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: but do we have any like official confirmation of motive 144 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: of do we know how everything worked out? Is he 145 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: getting charged. He's definitely getting charged. He's and may actually 146 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: be charged federally. Yeah, because the the f A A right, 147 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's this is from a federal crime to 148 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: steal an illegally pirate pilot an aircraft. I believe he's 149 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:24,239 Speaker 1: been charged with grand larceny and and terrorist threats, um. 150 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: But the motive is the part of that, you know. 151 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: I heard about this in my mind immediately went to 152 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: the water crisis, and this being some sort of retribution, 153 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, or some sort of like you know, somebody 154 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: going postal for lack of a better, you know, more 155 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: elegant term, like as a result of of the you know, 156 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: the water issue. That obviously it's not in the same 157 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: part of the state. But I just thought maybe that 158 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: there's some connection. Um that there's nothing, there's nothing indicating 159 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: any motive that I've seen. The FBI Field office though 160 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: that's involved, is in Jackson, you out, which is where 161 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: all of the water you know, chaos is going on. Um. 162 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: And I didn't even realize that they're as as of 163 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: the Monday, when the episode came out where we were 164 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: talking about it. The water pressure was back up, that 165 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: water was still not ready to drink. When you can 166 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: see photographs of black muck coming out of bathtub flawcets stuff. 167 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: There was another public safety alert that UM warned people 168 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: not to shower with their mouths open, and uh, watching footage, 169 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: there was a lot of like people buying bags of ice, 170 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, and and melting it down and bathing out 171 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: of like those gatorade kind of coolers with the little 172 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, tap on them. But again, this is unrelated. 173 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: It just isn't the same area. Uh, And there is 174 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: no connection that that I that I have seen, But 175 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: that was where my mind initially went. So to answer 176 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: your question and bad Ghost, I found it a little 177 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: odd as well. I do think that that the more 178 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: information will come out about the person's motivations, it seems 179 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: like maybe it was just a kind of a cry 180 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: for help kind of situation. And Ben, you point out 181 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: a great, a great plant about the the empathy side 182 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: of it is like it would suck to be kind 183 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: of a lower level employee with dream you know, of 184 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: of of being a pilot and not you know, but 185 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: there's no indication and you know, you can get a 186 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: pilot's license if you do enough instruction doesn't mean it's 187 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a commercial pilot's license. Um, and have the cash. I'm 188 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: just I I hear you're grown. I'm just speaking to 189 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: the guy's mental state, you know. And if the person 190 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: is already mentally perhaps compromised, I could see how that 191 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: level of bitterness could perhaps boil over into taking action. 192 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: But but I again, we don't really know yet. What 193 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: what do you think, man, I'm just saying that the 194 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: person is twenty nine years old, They're going through probably 195 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of changes in their life at this time 196 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: in their life. They're probably going through a lot of 197 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: personal stuff. Everybody is. We all are, literally every one 198 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: of us right now listening is going through a ton 199 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: of personal stuff that most people don't know is going 200 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: on around us. So it's like, who knows what it is. 201 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: But it was definitely felt like a breaking point thing 202 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: for him. Uh, And he had access to one of 203 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: these planes and made that split decision right because he 204 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: didn't make the posts until I think he was in 205 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: the air. He was he was communicating stuff out even 206 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: through Facebook. This is of course not the first time 207 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: someone has absconded with an aircraft. My favorite story I 208 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: kind oft remember the specifics, but my my favorite story 209 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: in this regard is there's a guy I heard of 210 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: who a number of years ago stole a plane and 211 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: flew it in a loop de loop just because he could, 212 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: because he had trained for years on a very sophisticated simulator, 213 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: like an air simulator flight. And you know, that was 214 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: his um, his everest, that was his the peak. He 215 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: needed this summit in his life. But there's no ideology 216 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: involved with that, as far as we can tell that ghosts, 217 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: there's not ideology involved, at least publicly stated. In Patterson's case, 218 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: it reminds me of that old quote often misattributed to Plato, 219 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: be kind. Everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. 220 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: So we don't know what happened with Patterson. Um, we 221 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: do know he's alive, he didn't actually crash the plane, 222 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: but we'll have to see if he gets consequences, because, 223 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: as you said, old the f a A. He's known 224 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: for a lot of things, none of which are playing 225 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: around with people who just trying to, you know, do 226 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: a jazz riff on a plane flight. There there's a 227 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: statement from from the young man's attorney, Anthony L. FARIESI, 228 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: he told CNN quote Mr Patterson is a good young 229 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: man with no criminal history. We have got our own 230 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: investigation into this matter, and we believe him. Sir Patterson 231 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: has been laboring under some serious psychological distress that led 232 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: to these events. We look forward to defending him in 233 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: this matter and proceeding appropriately. Um. So, you know, kind 234 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: of checks out. Definitely interesting to see if there are 235 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: any other motives. But it does sound to me like 236 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: to your point, Matt, it was just someone uh dealing 237 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: with a lot that that reached a breaking point and um, 238 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: not making excuses. It was pretty pretty pretty bad way 239 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: to act out, you know, with putting other people at risk. Um. 240 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: But you know, again, you can't empathize with the experience 241 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: of intense stress and anxiety about the world, you know. 242 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: I just want to put this out there. It reminds 243 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: me of a story we've talked about on this show before. 244 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: Do you guys remember when a guy stole a passenger jet. Yes, 245 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: the dude stole a passenger jet and fluid all around 246 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: and was doing like loop de loops like you were 247 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: talking about Ben Uh in a giant passenger jet until 248 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: he crashed it just I don't know, you know, something 249 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: about the allure of having access to a plane, especially 250 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: if you're a worker, you know, in any capacity in 251 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: an airport. Something about it, I think, And uh, you know, 252 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: there's something to me understandable about it. And it's not 253 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: this silly hatom wary right now, which we are not 254 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: going to explain in this week's listener mail segment. But uh, 255 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: it's just so silly. There's this thing where the average 256 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: human being can swim, but not as well as a 257 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: fish or other maritime creature. The average human being can run, 258 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: though not as swiftly as say, something like a cheetah. 259 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: But one thing people can't do without the aid of 260 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: technology is fly. It's literally rarefied air, and there's something 261 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: noble and poetic about the attempt to fly, you know. Uh. 262 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: In fact, recently last week, as you're hearing this segment, 263 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: one of our partner shows, Ridiculous History, embarked on a 264 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: series you would love this Matt inventors who died at 265 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: the hand of their own inventions, and the first episode 266 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: we thought it would be a one and done. There's 267 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: I am so glad this is happening. I know, I 268 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: keep I am sorry, I wouldn't shut up about it, guys, 269 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: but I'm fascinating. We we're gonna have to have mat 270 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: on the show. No our our first one was just 271 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: inventors who died trying to fly and spoiler alert, some 272 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: of them were more bone headed than others. Some of 273 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: them were noble attempts, uh with you know, with eyes 274 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: wide open to quote creed um, and then others were 275 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: just like, bro, come on, what do you think was 276 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna happen? That sounds amazing? Can't wait to hear it? 277 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: And you shall, good sir, nod to Ben's point. We will. 278 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: We will have you on very soon, perhaps on another 279 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: edition of what this is, uh you know would be 280 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: potentially We always promised these series and then never do them. 281 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: But I think this one actually has got legs or wings. Um. 282 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: So we're gonna fly on out of here for a 283 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: minute and take a break for a worth from our sponsor, 284 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: and then we'll make a sit eighth landing back into 285 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: the next segments. All right, and we're back, and we 286 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: are jumping to the phone lines. Quick shout out to 287 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: a bunch of the people that I talked to earlier. Um, 288 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: let's just Sarah and Harvey. If you're listening to this one, 289 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: y'all are awesome. Uh there's Jeremy chicky city slicker jeff 290 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: Old Rando shooting a bunch of a bunch of guys. Yeah. Yeah, Um, 291 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: So we're gonna jump over to the phone lines and 292 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: hear a message from road Runner. Hey guys, this is 293 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: Mike the road Runner Rombis. I was listening to the 294 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: going Tonabo Bay episode and it made me pose a 295 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: new question. I think you might like to investigate and 296 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: report on. I wonder can you find out who the 297 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: most dangerous people in the world are and where they 298 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: are being held? You know, um, just the worst of 299 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: the worst of the worst of the worst, and where 300 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: are we keeping them? And why are they being kept 301 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: alive instead of getting rid of them. That's just that's 302 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: the whole question right there. Who are these people? Where 303 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: where are they being kept? You know, think Hannibal, lector Infinity, 304 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: somebody that bad, and why can't we let them out? 305 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: So I think if you explore that, you're gonna find 306 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: some real creepy stuff and I'd love to hear it. 307 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: So doing a great job. Keep it up, and uh 308 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: take it easy. What a fantastic question. I'm really excited 309 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: about this one, Roadrunner. You have come to the rights place. Uh, Matt, 310 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: this one, this one really spoke to you. How are 311 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: we all of the same mind on this one, I think? So, 312 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm really just going to present this in a few 313 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: moments here very fast. There is a lot and the 314 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: research is pretty extensive, because it's kind of difficult sometimes 315 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: to figure out who a is alive and then actually 316 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: where people are incarcerated, where specific criminals are incarcerated, and 317 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, there are some lists you can find, but 318 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: not all of them are from the most reputable sources. 319 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: So it's it's this is question, Roadrunner, Mike is a 320 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: it's a little more difficult to answer than we can 321 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: do right now. So I think we might have to 322 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: make a full episode, guys, But I will give you 323 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: some of the information I found. There's actually how stuff 324 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: works article that I would want a reference in this 325 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: segment and when we do it later in the future. 326 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: It's about one particular place of incarceration, one prison. But 327 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: the first thing I would jump to, or at least 328 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: that I found, is an article from a website called 329 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: The Next Luxury. I know nothing about this website. I 330 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: don't know how I can trust a lot of the 331 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: information here. Nothing is cited. It's just kind of a 332 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: listical but it does mention some of the most secured 333 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: sites on the planet, and maybe we save some of 334 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: these other international prisons, like some of them that are 335 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: in Ireland and other places for a full episode, because 336 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: I think that you're talking about like Spike Island. I 337 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: can't wait. Yeah, as soon as this this is definitely 338 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: we're going to do an episode on this. And our 339 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: weekly listener mail segment inspires a lot of episodes, but 340 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: the reason weren't grateful for it. But this this might 341 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: have to be a two parter. Uh. Previously we did 342 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: a deep dive into black sites, which are real thing, 343 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: but they're not quite answering your two part question, Roadrunner, 344 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: because a lot of people in black sites are bad dudes. 345 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: But then a lot of other people who were literally 346 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: had a bag put over their head and they were 347 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: dragged in this site that doesn't exist. A lot of 348 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: them were just innocence who happened to have a similar 349 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: name to the person those forces were looking for. Uh, yeah, 350 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: this is this is a dark rabbit hole and especially 351 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about information that is being closely 352 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: managed by state or interstate powers. There's some real stuff 353 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know here. I think, Oh yeah, 354 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, he mentions like the hannibal lectors of the 355 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: world and stuff like that. Hey, why are some of 356 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: these folks just perma you know, incarcerated, um and not 357 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: on death row? Is it? Is it a matter of 358 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: of their being kept in like Arkham asylum type like situations, 359 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: high level high security psychiatric institutions. Um, yeah, I just 360 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm wondering about those types, like the the true monsters, 361 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: you know. So it's often what state of the United 362 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: States they committed crime in, so whether or not there 363 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: is an enforceable death penalty, and then whether or not 364 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: the judge they were in front of chose to give 365 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: them that death penalty right in the sentencing part. Those 366 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: are the two main factors. And then also prisoners are 367 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: often shipped around to different facilities because they have to 368 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: face related charges, especially if they've committed crimes more than 369 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: one state. Yes, exactly. So I'm gonna just give you 370 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: one example of kind of a prison that is in 371 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: itself folklore to an extent, but It's also got inmates 372 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: who are a part of the American story of some 373 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: of the major crimes that have occurred in this country. 374 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: It's a place that's known as a d X. It's 375 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: in Florence, Colorado. There is an an old house stuff 376 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: Works article you can read right now if you want 377 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: to just jump in right now at this moment. It's 378 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: titled The Alcatraz of the Rockies. There's a subtitle, I'm 379 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: not gonna it's just it says, why no one ever 380 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: escapes from a d X Florence. Um, this is a 381 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: This is the maximum of the maximum security prisons like 382 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: super max is that exists on planet Earth. Really because 383 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: of its location and because primarily of how it handles 384 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: individual inmates. This place, according to what I've read thus far, 385 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: keeps inmates for twenty three out of twenty four hours 386 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: in a day in solitary confinement and does not allow much, 387 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: if any interaction between prisoners. So it is really just 388 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: it's a place to go and you will gets putting 389 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: someone in a hole. Basically, that is what a d 390 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: X Florence is some people. And the reason I'm talking 391 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: about American folklore and the story of crime in this country. 392 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: You've got Ted Kazinski, who I think is still incarcerated there. 393 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: But again, this is stuff I need to look up 394 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: and confirm before I can tell you precisely. But Ted Kazynski, 395 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: the UNI bomber, I believe it's still there. The person 396 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: responsible for the Boston marathon bombing, UH, several others. I 397 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: think Eric Rudolph, who was a notorious bomber of abortion clinics, 398 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: the person and maybe a few people I think at 399 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: least the primary person responsible for the first bombing of 400 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: the World Trade Center. Is there an a d X Florence. 401 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: It just a lot of the the super bads that 402 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: you're you're talking about here, a Roadrunner like they are 403 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: at a d X Florence in Colorado in the middle 404 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: of nowhere. Another thing that will get into Sometimes I 405 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: just have research locked and loaded that I I wait 406 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: put on ice until we have a relevant episode for it. 407 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Another thing to consider road Runner is the prisons outside 408 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: of the US, which often function in very different ways. 409 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking specifically of places like Brazil, where there are 410 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: are prisons run by inmates. I'm thinking also the fascinating, 411 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: terrifying story of some South African prisons and the prison 412 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: gangs that run those places. Then of course you can 413 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: see you can see a couple of interesting things in 414 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: Russia as well. One thing that was weird, well optimistic. 415 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: Get this. I recently had to go to the Netherlands 416 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: for some stuff, and while I was there, I learned 417 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: that they are bringing in prisoners from other countries in 418 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: the European Union because they are running out of prisoners. 419 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: That's how their criminal justice system works. So take note, 420 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: United States, there is a way around this. We should 421 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: beds here. The dubious distinction of that that just diabolical 422 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: incarceration rate. But yes, there are very dangerous people such 423 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: that there are laws written specifically to remove what you 424 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: would consider their human rights. Is that for good reason 425 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: in some cases? Absolutely? But there is much more of 426 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: this story. Matt road Runner, This is a fantastic idea. 427 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: Where else are we gonna get our unpaid labor? YEA 428 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: and road Runner just want to add a couple more 429 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: names to this list of the A d X Florence, 430 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: just so you can dive deeper into that rabbit hole. 431 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: Michael Swago. This is the guy who the there's a podcast, 432 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: great podcast called dr Death is based on this person, 433 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: Michael Swango. I think it's being adapted into TV if 434 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: it hasn't already. Terry Nichols, by the way, that's the 435 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Bomber, also at a d X hanging 436 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: out forever. Um. Yeah, that's great, as you said, Ben, 437 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: great topic. Let's explore it more. But for now, let's 438 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: take a word from our sponsor and we'll be back 439 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: with more messages from you. And we have returned. One 440 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: last thing. I'd like that here, road Runner that I 441 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: think equal interest you. I hope it does, because I'm 442 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: throwing it into the episode. How do we define dangerous, right, 443 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: because a thought can be a weapon, and there are 444 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are locked up for their thoughts. 445 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: But with that in mind, was a complete disregard for 446 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: the value of human life? Oh yes, well that's one 447 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: of the official definitions. But I also think there are 448 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: political prisoners that uh, local regimes consider h Luther level supervillains. 449 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: So I just want it's like pornography. You know, I 450 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: can't tell you what it is, but I know when 451 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: I see it, So just want to I just want 452 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: to throw that teaser in the hell of the teaser 453 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: if I say so myself to you. Uh, and we're 454 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: gonna move on something important that is not often talked 455 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: about here in uh the US. This comes to us 456 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: from someone who picked a moniker that I really love 457 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: Latrodectus macton. Now, this is also going to be a 458 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: future episode, so we're just going to share latrodectus is 459 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: correspondence and uh, I believe it'll it'll hit home with 460 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot of our fellow listeners. Hey there, so I've 461 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: gotten into several conversations with several of my friends, a 462 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: couple who think I'm a little nutty about food deserts. 463 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: I don't have the resources or the time honestly for 464 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: the research, but it seems to me that food deserts 465 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: are real. You're right there, Latrodectus, and it's a real 466 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: conspiracy from the government. Now that's where we get to 467 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: the episode. I don't know if you guys have covered this. 468 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: We haven't, but I think you might want to, which 469 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: is why I'm writing this email. And we're gonna summarize 470 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: some of this Latrodectus honestly because we want to save 471 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: some of the information here for that future episode. You say, so, 472 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: my thoughts on a food desert is that it's common 473 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: knowledge that fresh meat, fresh fruit, and fresh vegetables are 474 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: better for diets in general. True, there's no real disputing that. However, 475 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: in lower income neighborhoods, there are fewer grocery stores, fewer walmarts, etcetera, 476 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: leading to more junk food, less quality food, more fast food, 477 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: which in turn creates more health problems and lower income neighborhoods. 478 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: A lot of people lower income neighborhoods are obviously working 479 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: lower income jobs, ones that don't have health benefits or 480 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: sick leaves, so they have to go to work sick, 481 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: or they lose a lot of money that they desperately need. 482 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: So by the government, and I honestly don't know how 483 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: far this goes up only allowing for lower income neighborhoods 484 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: to have lower quality food sources, they're keeping lower income 485 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: neighborhoods lower income. Pause here, because that is now it's 486 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: a question of motive and purpose. Did some group do 487 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: this by design or did they just accidentally? Yes, and 488 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: several terrible ideas that lead to the current state. Also electrodectus. 489 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: You may enjoy this. There's a term for what you 490 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: see in UH littering interstate on and off ramps, and uh, 491 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: you know the stretch of s Herbia when you look 492 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: around and all you see are fast food or convenience 493 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: food outlets. That's called a food swamp, which is somehow 494 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: even less appealing than a food desert. So yeah, yeah, 495 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: it was new to me as a few years ago too, 496 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: and it's a it's a powerful image. Let's uh, let's 497 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: continue to explore latrodectus is facts here, all of which 498 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: have confirmed a lot of times lower income neighborhoods don't 499 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: have their own vehicles. They have to use public transit, 500 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: which is honestly not great most of the time, especially 501 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: in the US. I'm not sure if you're familiar with 502 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: public transit, but what could take maybe ten minutes to 503 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: get to work in a car could take two up 504 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: to three hours via public transit, especially in Atlanta. Part 505 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: of me is still waiting for a marta bus from 506 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: time is money. We're you're spending almost six hours, for example, 507 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: on a bus. That's less productivity you could be achieving. 508 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: H Latrodectus says they live in the largest city in 509 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: the US of a takes forty five minutes to get 510 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: across town and good traffic. We feel that in Atlanta 511 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: and Latrodectis says, there are very wealthy neighborhoods here, but 512 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: they're also very, very poor neighborhoods as well. And in 513 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: the poor neighborhoods, the grocery stores are at least a 514 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: fifteen minute drive away, and so for many people, you 515 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: have to travel outside of your community on a long 516 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: bus trip, maybe several buses, maybe a subway. If you're 517 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: like enough to have one to a grocery store, then 518 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: you have to find a way back, which means a 519 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: heck of a long travel, right. It's a journey now, 520 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: just to get some fresh fruit, some fresh veggies, some eggs. 521 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: And here's where it gets crazy. Latrodectis says, the conspiracy 522 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: here that I believe is that the government has a 523 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: hand in keeping the lower income families and neighborhoods down. 524 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: Let's pause there. I don't want to share the rest 525 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: of this excellent letter. Thank you again for writing in UM. 526 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: But I think we all recognize the concept of food deserts. 527 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: We just we haven't talked about on air, but we 528 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: probably talked about it with each other over the years. Absolutely, 529 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: I kind of live in one. I mean, you know, 530 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't live that far from the city, but like 531 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: the actual area that I live in just sort of 532 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: like a you know, starting to have more gentrification and 533 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: things like that. But it really is just like gas 534 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: stations and little convenience stores and like they're the closest 535 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: thing to like a real grocery store walking distance. Uh 536 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: is is like a CVS, you know, or Walgreens. Um, yeah, 537 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, there's a public it's about 538 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: ten minutes away. So maybe I'm oversetting the case, but 539 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: I do believe in more urban areas where people don't 540 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: have access to cars and public transit does take a 541 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: very long time, it would be considered based on proximity, right, 542 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: like walkable you you would want to live in an 543 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: area where you could walk to a fresh produce, a 544 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: place where fresh produce is available. I guess I live 545 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: in a great place because there's a Kroger in public's 546 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: right by me. And I don't know, I mean, I'm 547 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: privileged as hell, I guess. Jeezus, Okay, well you still 548 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: have to pay at the grocery store, right, Like everybody's 549 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: pretty envious. You just go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 550 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: It's crazy talk about hyper capitalism. It is nuts what 551 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: people throw away. And it's also I mean, I understand 552 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: the legal reasoning behind banning dumpster diving, right, like the 553 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: liability for diseases and damination, but also you could just 554 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: donate the food. You know. One of the one of 555 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: the times I got detained here in Atlanta, I mentioned 556 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: many years ago on the show, was when I was 557 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: trying to give away bread in a place called Piedmont Park. 558 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: I didn't have my sister, there were a lot of 559 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: homeless people. I was like, I was like a Dollar 560 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: stores Hannah Clause. I had a big black plastic garbage 561 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: bag of bread this bakery had thrown away, and I was, 562 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: here you go, I've got some bread and this I 563 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: will note the officer who told me to stop is 564 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: very polite but very very adamant that I stopped. And 565 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: also this officer, who I will not name, disclosed that 566 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: they believed the law was bull as well. But I 567 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: couldn't get away with it because that's the world in 568 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: which we live. Uh yeah. Food deserts are are real thing. 569 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: The question of whether or not they are the result 570 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: of the conspiracy is tremendously, profoundly fascinating, because I would argue, 571 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: with what I hope is solid reasoning, that they are 572 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: the result of not one, but multiple conspiracies, systemic conspiracies. 573 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: The date far far back, way before uh. Most of 574 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: us listening today we're born, and promise that we will. 575 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: We will try to be optimistic towards the end and 576 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: share some solutions to some proposed methods of untangling this 577 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: Gordian knot of iniquity. Will these be successful strategies? Well, 578 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: it depends on who you ask, It depends on how 579 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: things are measured, and honestly, it depends on who has 580 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: their hand at the wheel of power and money. But 581 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, truth be told, a lot of us listening 582 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: today are living in food deserts. And that doesn't mean 583 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: anything is wrong with you. Doesn't mean anything is wrong 584 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: with your life. It means that some entities and powerful 585 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: people that you have never met looked at looked at 586 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: you in an indirect way. It looked at you as 587 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: a small data point in a very large calculation. And 588 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: you don't have enough spending power too to put in 589 00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: public anywhere near you or any of your cohorts. Right, Yeah, 590 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: redlining and Jerrymanderin are not just for state level politics, 591 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: and I think that's something that surprise a lot of people. 592 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: But consider this a tease. As we said, this segment 593 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: will be a shorter one today, I wanted to end 594 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: with one surprise. You know, I get a lot of 595 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: people reaching out to me on on personal social I 596 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: think we all do, and we enjoy this. We are 597 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: actually friends with each other in real life, and we 598 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: hope you understand that you were a big part of 599 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: the show as well. That being said, gentlemen, we are 600 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: going to end this week's listener mail segment by embarrassing someone. 601 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,959 Speaker 1: Are you down down for a little all right? Well, 602 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: ribbon a little ribbon well. This is a message from 603 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Canadian conspiracy realist pal of ours andre Adam. Andreanna says, 604 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: shout out to Elizabeth Burns a k a. Elizabeth of 605 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: grim Reef Magic Well, grim Reef, your your pal tells 606 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 1: us that you enjoy listening to the show. I don't 607 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: know if you've ever wrote in, but that it would 608 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: make your day if you've got a shout out that 609 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: was unexpected. Um Matt noell uh. Andreana also requested that 610 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: we say she is so cool she could end global warming. 611 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: I said, no, no promises, but it's cool to surprise people. 612 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. 613 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: Grim Rey, for I would say that you you owe 614 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: your pal, you know, a nice coffee. I would say 615 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: something from Tim Horton's, But all of our Canadian friends 616 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: assure us that Tim Hortons is overrated. Do you remember 617 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: that Timmy's. We've got those emails where people were saying, 618 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: it's not what it used to be. Oh, that's what 619 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: everyone says about everything. I know. I was thinking, this 620 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: same just looks of like a duncan, you know. I mean, 621 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure people come to America from other countries and 622 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: they're like this magic, what is this duncan? And we're 623 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: just so sick of it. We're just over it over here, 624 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: you know. That's it's the thrill is gone. What's the 625 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: same with Timmy's. Yeah. I like it when stores are 626 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 1: just a person's name. I'd appreciate it even more if 627 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: they weren't clearly restaurants. I want to walk by a 628 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: building that just says you know, Jeremy, and I'm like, whoa, 629 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 1: what are they getting? Into. Yeah, it didn't work out 630 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: for p Diddy when he named his restaurant Justin's. I 631 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: never went. I feel bad. I'm sorry. Buff. Michael Jordan 632 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: has a steakhouse in Chicago called Michael Jordan's Steakhouse. That's 633 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: how you do it. Yeah, yeah, But the thing is, though, 634 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't you expect it to be kind of corny and 635 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: like sports memorabilia e and serve like just Applebee's caliber food. 636 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: It is apparently very I find I am high. Yeah, exactly, No, 637 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: it's apparently very pricey, very high. I heard that. I 638 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: wonder if you have to tip, because Jordan is infamous 639 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: for never tipping. You mean, but he could tip that basketball. 640 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh when you when you sit down at Michael Jordan's Steakhouse, 641 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: you have to bet on like seven different things. Yeah, 642 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: we've all heard the stories. Are our pals of the 643 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: show culture Kings. I don't think. I don't know if 644 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: it made it on the air, but years ago we 645 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: were talking about Michael Jordan's conspiracies and uh, they schooled 646 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: us on that guy's insane competitiveness, which I guess one 647 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: must have in his profession. But that's our show for today. 648 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: Give us your pitches on on people's names that should 649 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: be stores. Tell us what they sell. You know, the 650 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: weirder the better. Frankly, uh, we can't wait to hear 651 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: from you. Out out to road Runner, shout out to 652 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: Bad Ghosts, shout out to Electrodectus. If you want to 653 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: take a page from their book, then why not reach out? 654 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: Why not become part of stuff they don't want you 655 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: to know. There's so many ways to do it. We 656 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 1: try to be easy to find online. Yes, social media 657 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: it's the best, right, I love it. I use it 658 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: every day. All oh, sorry, I was gonna do it 659 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: after when you were you were on the roll, you 660 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: were in a role band. It sounded like you were 661 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: rapping almost in The moment is past, the moment is fast. 662 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: Keep it in, Let's keep it in. This is we're 663 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: being endearing, very kind. The first term. It's prett to scallier, 664 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, the moment where you like, think of the 665 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: thing that but it's just all of this. Yes, well, 666 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: doctor prose doc has been classing up the show for 667 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: quite a while now, but we've got to describe what happened. Guys, folks, 668 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 1: we really are super punchy today. So Here's what happened. 669 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: As we were wrapping up, Matt and I see nol 670 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: like scrambling for his phone and going, hey, hey guys, 671 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: I missed it. I missed it. Hang on, it was 672 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: it was a beautiful moment. Maybe it'll make it to 673 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: the to the YouTube. But yeah, social media, that's the THINGIP, 674 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: social meds. Find us there. If you know about the 675 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: secret function of your mobile device, why not use it? Alright? 676 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: Reach out and touch space. Reach out and touch space. 677 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: You can call one eight three three st d w 678 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: y t K. When you call in. It is a 679 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: voicemail system. You know how those work? When were you born? 680 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: Oh you don't know what that is? Okay, so you're 681 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: gonn have to tell us your d or personally identifying information. Well, 682 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: we'll take it and store it and use it one day, 683 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: can you say? Really quickly? Scams have gotten so much 684 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: more robust and like clever. I almost felt for one. 685 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: The other day I got an email from geek squad 686 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: from best Buy saying that they had re up some 687 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: sort of subscription for coverage for this computer. And it 688 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: rang true because I had bought a computer from a 689 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: best Buy from my mom years ago. I remember paying 690 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: for anything like that. And there's a number to call 691 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: geek Squad to cancel. I call it. It's just to do. 692 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: This is geek Squad Hello, Like, come on, man, you 693 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: gotta try hard, but I can't. I stayed all with 694 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: him for a minute before I was just like and 695 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: then I looked that it was from a Gmail address. 696 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: So thanks to all those fishing uh simulations that our 697 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: company does for us. I feel like I saved myself 698 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: some some pain. Nice work, voicemail, name, Moniker, whatever you 699 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: wanted to be message three minutes. That's all you got. 700 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: Let us know if we can use your name and 701 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: message on the air, and that's really all you need 702 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: to know. There are no rules. Please listen, and this 703 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: is a very special message that may not ever get 704 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: to the recipient. Um if your Moniker is crazy, old 705 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: dog lady, please do not call us seventeen times in 706 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: a row. Call us leave a message and we'd love 707 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: to hear from you. I want to hear from you, 708 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: we all do. But you don't have to do it 709 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: seventeen times in a row. We gotta go through all 710 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: these and it's a lot, so have like a staff. 711 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: We didn't just yeah, well I have this staff. Uh, 712 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: oh my god. If you got on the show, we 713 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: got in the show. 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