1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello, everyone, 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette and 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm an editor at how stuff works dot Com. Sitting 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: across for me as always, although some have sued him 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: to stop. Senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Have you heard about 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Hugo and Kim? Did they really get pinned? Did she 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: kiss him and cry? Did he pin the pin on? 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Or was he too shy? Is she really going out? 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Different songs? Yeah? I know that was one written by 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Shulas Joe Jackson. That's a lie. It was a hit. 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Oh boy. All right, Let's let's move on to our topic, 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: shall we, before we this really falls apart. Okay, So 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk today about Google Goal and it's 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: planned acquisition of Motorola Mobility and and what that means 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: and why Google would be considering it, and uh, kind 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: of just sort of look at the topic and talk 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: around it. It's kind of interesting because this this was 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: first announced in August of eleven August to be exact, 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: and typically August tends to be a slow month in 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: tech news, but the August of twenty eleven was anything but. 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: It started off like any typical August in the tech world, 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: but within the second week things just went out of control, 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: crazy bananas and Google Motorola was one of the big stories, 26 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: or so we thought. Other stories later eclipsed it. But 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: let's let's kind of talk about this and the The 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: details of the deal here are that Google would be 29 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: paying around forty dollars per share in Motorola stock, which 30 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: is an increase of around six of the value at 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: the time of the announcement. Yeah, about twelve point five 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: billion dollars billion with a B y. Yeah, that's a 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. And keep in mind, well, 34 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: why would Google want to buy Motorola Mobility? What are 35 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: some of the reasons? Okay, well, to start off with, 36 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like Google buying companies is unheard of. 37 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: Google's got long history of doing that, right, but typically 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: it's there are they are purchasing companies that the that 39 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: Google can turn into something else, like for example, when 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: they bought Rightly. Rightly was an online word processing UH 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: software that you used in your web browser, which became 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: part of Google Docs. Yeah, it's kind of more service 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: oriented than hardware oriented. That's really what Google was focusing on, 44 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: or advertising giants. Sure, which feeds directly into Google's line 45 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: of revenue, makes sense, you know, it's Google Products Services exactly. Um, 46 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: But with Google purchasing Motorola Mobility, motor Motorola Mobility was 47 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: a a fairly recent spinoff of Motorola, which has been 48 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: around for a long long time. And Motorola was the 49 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: company that invented the cell phone. The very first cell 50 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: phone was a huge cell phone by Motorola that wasn't 51 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't meant for consumers, it was a prototype and 52 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: uh and famously, the the head of Motorola at the time, 53 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: made a call to uh I think it was Bell 54 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Labs from the street out in front of Bell Labs 55 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: his office in order to kind of rub their nose 56 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: in the fact that that Motorola had built the first 57 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: cell phone. I believe the words that they used as 58 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: they were waving up to the person in the office 59 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: of Bell Labs was you who Yeah it was, which 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: you can also translate into nanny nanni boo boo yes. 61 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: And then the the six trucks it took to carry 62 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: the phone right drove off. It wasn't quite that big, 63 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: but it was. It was rather clunky. So anyway, Motorola 64 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: definitely has a long history, well even longer than that. 65 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: Remember Motorola CB radios in the nineties seventies. They predate 66 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: that by by quite a few years. So it's Motorole 67 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: has been around for quite some time. But they're known 68 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: for making things physical things, and Google is typically not. 69 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean, even when it came out with the the 70 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: NEXTUS one cell phone, the hardware for that was not 71 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: made by Google, it was made by HTC. So, uh, 72 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: the question is why would they do that? And the 73 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: first reason this is this is one of the cool things, 74 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, a tech stuff. We don't usually cover breaking 75 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: tech news. I mean, you might mention something on the blog, 76 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: but when we actually get to it in a podcast, 77 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: we've had a chance for the news and commentary to 78 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: develop on it somewhat. So the initial news was Google 79 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: bought Motorola Mobility because it had thousands and thousands of 80 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: patents um And this has been in the news a 81 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: lot lately to where Google and Microsoft and Apple and 82 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: HTC have all been going at one another on who's 83 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: violating whose patents and Google doesn't have a lot of patents. Yeah, 84 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: and and to be to be clear, to be clear, 85 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Google was kind of outside of these arguments. I mean, 86 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: they were directly involved in the sense that the arguments 87 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: had a lot to do with the Android operating system, 88 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: but the actual lawsuits did not target Google. They targeted 89 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: the hardware manufacturers that we're using Android operating system. Google 90 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: is uh is not a bit player in this. They 91 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: have a big steak in the outcome of these arguments, right, 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: so Google definitely has a lot to lose if the 93 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: arguments go against the manufacturers, but they didn't have really 94 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: much recourse to act out against these lawsuits because they 95 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: weren't the ones named in the lawsuit. And so Google. 96 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: Google's move to purchase Motorola Mobility might have been fueled 97 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: in part with this desire to get hold of these 98 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: thousands of patents so that the company could protect itself 99 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: against UH patent lawsuits, patent infringement lawsuits. And the way 100 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: you put protect yourself against the lawsuit isn't that you 101 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: prove that your idea is original or that you have 102 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 1: the patent on whatever idea it is. That's that's at stake. 103 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: It's to say, if you sue me for infringing on 104 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: this idea, then I can sue you for infringing on 105 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: these ideas. And it becomes this thing where it's almost 106 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: like the Cold War, right, It's where these different companies 107 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: are building up arsenals, except their arsenals aren't weapons. They 108 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: are patents, patent portfolios. And it protects them because they 109 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: know that if another company tries to sue them, they 110 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: can countersue, and it makes the whole thing counterproductive. So 111 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 1: you're more likely to reach an agreement with another major 112 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: company where perhaps you agree to license the technology across 113 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: both companies for multiple companies. If there's more than that 114 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: involved in a lawsuit. Yeah, and it it uh sometimes 115 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: works out where people are sort of exchanging, you know, 116 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: making exchange. So I'm licensing these patents. You know, for 117 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: every one of these I make, I'll give you ten 118 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: dollars for these patents, And for every one of these 119 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I make, you give me twelve dollars for those patents, 120 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: and we'll just call it a day. Um. The thing 121 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: is a patent is basically a protection of intellectual property, 122 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: and it's on file with some patent office somewhere. You know, 123 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times ideas will be patented in Europe 124 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: and in the United States and in you know, different countries. 125 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: So um, you know, they're these are high stakes games 126 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: that people are playing. But that's only the first I 127 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: would I would say that was the first obvious thing. 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: The other obvious thing is that Google is making the 129 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Android operating system, and Motorola with the droid UM and 130 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: several other Zoom Zoom the tablet. Yeah, um was making devices. 131 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: So until this point, the Android operating system was free 132 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: for multiple uh uh companies to o e M companies 133 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: to license from them. So you have people like HTC, 134 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: You've got Samsung, um LG, Motorola licensing the Android operating 135 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: system for use on their handsets, and that's helped Android 136 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: gain one of the biggest market shares, crazy market share, 137 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: like over the course of a very short time. Yeah it. 138 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Even though the iPhone debuted before Android, Android caught up 139 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: to iPhone and got a wider distribution. And there are 140 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: multiple reasons for that. For one, unlike the iPhone, um 141 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, iOS is only found on the iPhone. That's it. 142 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, for for phones, for phones. It's also 143 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: found on the tablets, the iPads. But I'm just waiting 144 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: for someone to write in, I'm glad that you said that. Okay, 145 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: so for but four phones, OS is only found on 146 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: the iPhone. And you might be able to find different 147 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: generations of an iPhone out on the market at any 148 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: given time, depending upon when you go to the market. 149 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: But they were all manufactured for Apple for Apple, and 150 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: it's just the iPhone line. If you wanted an Android phone, 151 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: you have lots of different choices across multiple carriers. And remember, 152 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: for a long time, iPhone was just stuck with not stuck. 153 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: iPhone was only available on a T and T and 154 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: then actually in the United States, and then eventually it 155 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: was also available on Verizon and there are now rumors 156 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: that it will come to other carriers as well. But 157 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: that limited the adoption rate of the iPhone as well, 158 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: just because some people were locked into contracts with other 159 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: carriers or they had they knew that the other carriers 160 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: had better service in whatever area they lived in, and 161 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: even though they might want an iPhone, it just wasn't 162 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: practical based upon their particular situation. But because Android phones 163 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: were available across multiple carriers, across multiple handsets. It gave 164 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: people a lot more choice. So there's no surprise that 165 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: Android caught up in the marketplace and then started to 166 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: go beyond everyone else, at least in the smartphone market. 167 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: If you look at the cell phone market overall, then 168 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Android is not the dominant operating system, but in the 169 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: smartphone the branch of the cell phone market, Android's winning right. 170 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden, now Google owns one 171 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:31,119 Speaker 1: of the manufacturers to whom it was licensing the its software. 172 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: And now, well, of course I haven't actually heard any 173 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: of the other manufacturers say anything. Most of them. Most 174 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: of the comments from the other manufacturers have been we 175 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: and we trust that this is not going to in 176 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: any way impact our relationship with Google. So so in 177 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: other words, like HTC would say, yeah, Google's buying up 178 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: a company that creates competing products with our products, but 179 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: we trust that Google is not going to of them 180 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: preferential treatment and hurt us in the marketplace. And you know, 181 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: you could say, well, that's probably lip service that you know, 182 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: what else is HTC going to say? But I've read 183 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: some good arguments that this could very well be the case, 184 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: meaning mostly because if you look at all the different 185 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: handsets that hold or in products that have Android operating 186 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: system on it. Motorola Mobility consists of around roughly of 187 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: all the products that have Android on them, which means 188 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: you have eighty five of the products that have Android 189 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: on them are made by other manufacturers. So why would 190 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Google endanger the relationship with eight of what of the 191 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: products out there that run Android? Why would Google put 192 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: that at risk? If they were to give preferential treatment 193 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: to one uh one company over everything else, it would 194 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense from a numbers perspective, right from 195 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: business perspective. And also we should say that Larry Page, 196 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: who is co founder and the CEO of Google said, 197 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: uh this this is an excerpt of a quote. We 198 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: will create amazing user experiences that supercharged the entire Android 199 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: ecosystem for the benefit of consumers, partners, and developers. I 200 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: look forward to welcoming Motorolan's to our family of Googlers. 201 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: And I guess the idea here is that you take 202 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: the hardware expertise from Motorola, and you take the the 203 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: the systems expertise from Google, and you work with those 204 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: to try and create new systems that would be uh 205 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: ideal for Android users, but not necessarily try and keep 206 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: that just to Motorola. It might be that again that 207 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Google makes patents on these things and licenses out to 208 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: other manufacturers, so that you might have Google and Motorola 209 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: coming up with these new ideas, new ways to implement 210 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: the operating system in a really innovative way, but they 211 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't be kept just to Motorola products. But so yeah, 212 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: that was that was what. Those were the two big 213 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: things that I that I saw in the days immediately 214 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: following than the news of this deal were oh, my gosh, 215 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: look at all the patents they've got, and we really 216 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: are talking about thousands and thousands, and there are thousands 217 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: of other patents that have been submitted but haven't been 218 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: ruled on yet, so they haven't been issued or declined. 219 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: So there there could be even more of the works. 220 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: And in fact, I've heard that it's possible that Google 221 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: doesn't even know everything that's in that portfolio, but you know, 222 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: they were buying it for the intellectual property, and oh 223 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: my gosh, what happens with all these other manufacturers. Some 224 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: say that they think that people like Samsung and HTC 225 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: might look again at Windows Phone seven. Um, yeah, I've 226 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: actually heard that Microsoft may receive a shot in the 227 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: arm because Windows Phone seven, despite critical acclaim, has been 228 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: flagging in the market place, and so this might give 229 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: them a uh, give other manufacturers and impetus to to 230 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: take a look again at the operating system and hey, 231 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: maybe we should create more Windows Phone right because because 232 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: the philosophy is, despite what Google saying, how can how 233 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: can it even be possible that the Motorola phones with 234 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: the Google operating system that we're all, you know, everything 235 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: that was developed within Google was developed with these phones 236 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: possibly in mind? How can we compete against that? I mean, 237 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm out in the market to buy 238 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: an Android phone, and I know that Google owns Motorola Mobility. 239 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: Even if Motorole Motorola Mobility remains it's as independent as 240 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: it possibly can be under the umbrella of Google, I'm 241 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: tempted to buy Motorola because I would logically, I would 242 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: think anything that Google does that's innovative is going to 243 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: be aimed at this particular kind of hardware over the 244 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: other kinds. Even if that's not true, that's gonna be 245 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: what's in my mind, Well, there are a lot of 246 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: people who aim for the Nexus is because they think 247 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: they're going to get the upbring system build before anyone 248 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: else does. Yeah, the Nexus, the Nexus one, the original, 249 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: and then the NEXTUS which is Samsung's and a lot 250 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: of people say, well, these these are the phones that 251 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: are designed to be the pure Android experience. Google has 252 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: said that they were going to give out the all 253 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: the builds that the phone can handle, so nobody's gonna 254 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: hold anything back. Because some of the other manufacturers have 255 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: have messed around with the operating system and they say, well, 256 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: it's not the same. Like HTC is known for its 257 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: HTC sense Um modifications the operating system, Motorola actually has 258 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Moto blur Um and UH and both of them have 259 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: their fans and attractors. Um they say, well, you know, 260 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: HTC is not gonna give me the update from my phone, 261 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: and I really want that, so I'm gonna make sure 262 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I get the next or you know, the same thing 263 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: for all of them. I've I've heard complaints about all 264 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: of the different manufacturers because they say, well, they're so 265 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: intent on creating this experience on top of Android, and 266 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: I just want the pure Android garnet. It's kind of 267 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: funny because the day that we're recording this is the 268 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: day that I got the heat Gingerbread update to my 269 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: Android phone. Uh so yeah, I mean, and Gingerbread has 270 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: been out for a long long time. For you people 271 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: in the future who are listening to this podcast, it's 272 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: not that uh gingerbread is is fresh out of the oven. 273 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: It's been available on other devices for a while. I 274 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: just got it as of September two. Um. Anyway, but 275 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no no, no, go ahead. I 276 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: was going to say that that one of the arguments 277 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: I would use against the people who say this was 278 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: purely a patent grab is that, well, first of all, 279 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: it looks like a lot of those patents that Motorola 280 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: has wouldn't necessarily be useful in patent lawsuits. It's they 281 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be that valuable. Uh. In that case, some 282 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: of them probably are, but not all of them. And 283 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: it and it may very well be that most of 284 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: them aren't terribly useful for the whole patent lawsuit warfare strategy. 285 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: But another reason is because Google was part of a 286 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: bidding war for another group of patents from Nortel, which 287 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: ended up being a four point five billion dollar package 288 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: of O patents, and Google did decided not to continue 289 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: to bid on that and and pass that chance up. 290 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: But then they spend twelve point five billion on Motorola Mobility. 291 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: So you could either say, well, perhaps they view that 292 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: the patents that Motorola holds more valuable and more relevant 293 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: than the patents that Nortel held, or they could be saying, well, no, 294 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: this really is because we want to have a platform 295 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: to work with when we're developing Android, not just the 296 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: patents that come along with it. Well, it seems like 297 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: um now, I actually, uh, the best article I've found 298 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: on all these different pieces of fallout was from Renee A. 299 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: Riccio of inc. It was a long time tech journalist, 300 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: and she she was pointing out too that Nokia also, 301 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: uh might receive a shot in the arm from this, 302 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: because there's been a long time, Uh there's been a 303 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: rumor going on for a long time that Microsoft might 304 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: want to pick up Nokia. UM, and this just makes 305 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: it all the more possible that somebody might gobble up Nokia, 306 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: which has been around for a very very long time, 307 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: also has done a lot of innovation, UM not not 308 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: as visible here in the United States. UM. But you know, 309 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of phones over the past using 310 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: the Symbian operating system and so there might be an 311 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: opportunity there. Um also Research in Motion, she suggested, as 312 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: a possible take over our target. Research in Motion is 313 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: hop ping this will turn things around. Research in Motion, 314 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: as of the recording of this podcasts, has had a 315 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: few rough quarters. Putting it lightly yep. Yeah, And you 316 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: have to remember Research Emotion was once the dominant company 317 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: in the smartphone market in the United States in particular, 318 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: like that was the one that all the executives would 319 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: go for. You would hear the story about the Crackberries, 320 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: where executives were addicted to using the smartphone because it 321 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: was so compelling. Well, that was before it the smartphone 322 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: had really started to creep into the consumer market. It 323 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: was definitely before Steve Jobs had introduced the iPhone, which 324 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: opened up the floodgates. Um. And of course for a 325 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: while it was the enterprise security level kept BlackBerry in 326 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: its position, right, Yeah, because everything is encrypted and it's 327 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: all passing through specific servers owned by RIM. Although that 328 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: did cause some problems in various industries because RIM is 329 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: a Canadian company and if you're talking about the United 330 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: States company. Uh, some executives and some I T professionals 331 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: a little nervous about the fact that their information was 332 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: passing through the servers in a different country. But rem 333 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: has built a reputation on being reliable and encrypted and safe, 334 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: so it was able to move beyond that. In most cases, 335 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: I would say, you know who else is benefiting or 336 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: might benefit if Google standardized more on the Motorola hardware platform. 337 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: What's developers? And I'll only say that once because I'm 338 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: not Steve Bomber, right, Um, because the very thing. You 339 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: know a lot of people who don't like Apple products 340 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: because they're closed off and prefer Microsoft or Linux or 341 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: for phones Android. Um, they like the fact that these 342 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: things are open, that they have multiple marketplaces, multiple options 343 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: to buy their software from. They say it's more open. 344 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: But the thing that it's two sided coin, right. Yeah. 345 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: The challenge is the fact that there are so many 346 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: different variations of Android out on the market that developing 347 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: in an appu means that you either have to make 348 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: it as general as possible to hit as many of 349 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: those operating systems, and to work properly on as many 350 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: of those operating systems as possible, or you just right 351 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: off a percentage of your of your potential audience and 352 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: develop for the latest operating system or the latest couple 353 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: of versions of that operating system, because Google does release 354 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: updates to Android and the you know, you want to 355 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: develop for the newest version of whatever the operating system is, 356 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: because that's probably going to give you the most advanced features. 357 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: It's going to give you access to the resources that 358 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: you want to make a truly compelling app. Well you 359 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: you hope for that, Yeah, that's I mean, you could 360 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: aim to create an app that is much more basic 361 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: and and really goes after very simple elements of the 362 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: operating system. Uh, and there's nothing wrong with that, But 363 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: the temptation is of course to develop something that's really 364 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: cutting edge that pushes the envelope. And so the problem 365 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: is that Google doesn't have any control over which hand 366 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: sets and which carriers update the operating system. Like they 367 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: don't have Google can't schedule that. Google can can release 368 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: an update to the operating system, but it's up to 369 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: the carriers to actually push that out to users. So 370 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you could be stuck with an Android phone that could 371 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: be theoretically based on its hardware capable of running the 372 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: latest operating system, but you're stuck a version or two 373 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: versions or more behind the current one because the many 374 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: the carrier hasn't pushed that update out. So that means 375 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: that as a developer, you have, instead of one operating 376 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: system to develop for, you've got six different versions of 377 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: that operating system to develop for. And if you want 378 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: your app to be usable across all Android devices, you 379 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: have to take that into account when you're building your app, 380 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: So you can't build in those super cool futuristic features 381 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: without leaving behind a good portion of the people who 382 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: own Android app um Android devices. So hopefully by purchasing 383 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: Motorola Mobility, Google will have a little more control in 384 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: UH and keeping a nice standard build of the operating system, 385 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: and other hopefully carriers and and and handset manufacturers will 386 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: follow suit and incorporate that into their devices so that 387 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: the experience is more level across the board. Now, if 388 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: you own something that cannot run the latest version of 389 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: that operating system because it just does not have the 390 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: hardware necessary to do it, you're still going to be 391 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: out of luck. But that's just like any other computer system. 392 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: If I go out and buy an old old, old computer. 393 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: It's not going to have the resources necessary to run 394 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: a modern operating system like a current version of an 395 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: operating system on it, because it's just it doesn't have 396 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: the horsepower. But that you know, that's the nature of technology. 397 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: You just don't want to be left behind, seemingly arbitrarily 398 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: knowing that your device could run this stuff but for 399 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: some reason doesn't. That's really irritating, both from a consumer 400 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: perspective and a developer perspective. Yep UM. And then there 401 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: were in the days that followed the initial freak outage 402 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: of the the deal, the revel people just I think 403 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: once they stopped, you know, thinking about what would happen 404 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: with the other developers, they started thinking about the other 405 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 1: stuff that Motorola Mobility does UM, part of which is 406 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: it brings in a whole lot of money for Motorola 407 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: or used to or won't won't soon will for Google um, 408 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: so it's another source of revenue UM. And in addition, 409 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: they make stuff other than phones, like set top boxes 410 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: for TVs, and this could be the next step in 411 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: in implementing Google TV, yes, which has It's funny because 412 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: I see reviews of Google TV people who have actually 413 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: used it, and they tend to be fairly positive at 414 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: least of the potential for Google TV. There's a lot 415 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: of stuff that's holding Google TV back, and a lot 416 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: of that has to do with content deals, which you know, 417 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: that's that's a whole different podcasts. But but the but 418 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: the fact that they have a company now that produces 419 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: set top boxes could mean that there's a tighter integration 420 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: with that and we might see some pretty innovative UH 421 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: home entertainment systems with Google technology built directly into them 422 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: that we'll hit the market in the next few years. 423 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: And then there's UH in dash navigation systems for cars, 424 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: although really, I mean smartphones are starting to really take 425 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: a bite out of those, sure, but you could have 426 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: greater integration if you had an Android phone and you 427 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: had Android in your dash. Yeah. I can even see 428 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: that becoming because even more complex where you start getting 429 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: agreements with specific car manufacturers where that's built in, like 430 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: it's not an aftermarket thing, but it's built in at 431 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: the very beginning. And so you go out and you 432 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: buy your new car, and that car happens to have 433 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: a Google Android system built into it. And if you 434 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: happen to have an Android smartphone. Then you've got automatic 435 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: integration between those two. That means it's a very compelling device. Well, 436 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean this is an area in which Apple is 437 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: not active, but Microsoft is um and this is I'm 438 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: sure that just makes Microsoft even happier about the deal 439 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: than they already weren't um you know, because this is 440 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: this is a place where I I don't know that 441 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: anybody else had the clout of a Microsoft. I think 442 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: it was you know, car by car Um. So this 443 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: is this is gonna be scary because Google's got a 444 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: lot of weight it can throw behind those um So, 445 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean there there's there's more to this deal than 446 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: just the patents and just the effect of the on 447 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: the manufacturers of phones. I mean this this really has 448 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: some far reaching implications, and it might push Google's competitors 449 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: in in different ways. I've even seen suggestions that perhaps 450 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: the Google Motorola acquisition could end up getting well it's 451 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: going to get a lot of scrutiny, but it could 452 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: potentially raise questions of antitrust laws and uh and that's 453 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: a little tricky because you look at Google and you 454 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: look at Motorole Mobility and at first blush these two 455 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: companies don't seem to have a lot of overlapping uh 456 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: areas of products. You know, it just doesn't seem like 457 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: it it would be that big a deal. But then 458 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: you take into account the whole operating system for mobile devices, 459 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: and if Google is targeted for antitrust, then the question is, well, 460 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: how does that How is it possible for Apple to 461 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: have its own line of products with its own operating 462 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: system that is not available on anything else? How can 463 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: that be possible? But the Google Motorola acquisition isn't. And 464 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: I mean it's just one of these conversations that spirals 465 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: and spirals outward and you start to question why you 466 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: even got up in the morning typical Friday for me. 467 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: Really well now and it's just, um, you know, there's there. 468 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: This is one of those onions of of news because 469 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: there's just so many different layers to it. But not 470 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: the onion, not the onion, which would still be hilarious. Um, 471 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, this is it's fascinating stuff because 472 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: this really does have some pretty far reaching implications of 473 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: just the ones on the surface, and um, you know 474 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the world didn't necessarily latch onto them 475 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: and immediately but I would bet that Google had some 476 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: of this other stuff in mind when it completed the acquisition. 477 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: You know, there are lots and lots of things that 478 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: that these two companies can do well together provided the 479 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: merger goes through. A merger acquisition is allowed to proceed. 480 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: So because it's not a done deal yet, no, we 481 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: talked about almost like it is, but that's really this 482 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: is an announcement, it's an intention, and everyone's reacting to 483 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: it as if it's as if everything's been signed and sealed, 484 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: But in truth, things may still fall apart for this deal. 485 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: We've seen some pretty major deals get some serious opposition 486 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: recently in the news, so it wouldn't be a surprise 487 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: to see that sort of at least the at least 488 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: scrutiny towards the deal, if not opposition. So we'll have 489 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: to keep our eyes on this and see how it develops. 490 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: But really interesting discussion here. Not everything in technology is 491 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: all based on circuitry and software and and electricity. Some 492 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: of it's based on on corporate policy, CE and finance 493 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: and politics and property intellectual property. And I find this 494 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: just as interesting to me as as you know, stuff 495 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: that beeps. So, guys, if you have any suggestions for 496 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: topics that we should tackle here on tech stuff, let 497 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: us know. 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