WEBVTT - What is colorblindness?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Charles W Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is stuff you should know about color blindness,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, which I didn't know a lot about. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I didn't either. It's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of assume you do, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more to it than you realize, right. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wondered about myself though, because Emily is always

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<v Speaker 1>telling me that I'm getting colors wrong. So I took

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<v Speaker 1>a I took an online test. I did too. How'd

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<v Speaker 1>you fare normal color? Did you? I? I? I took

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<v Speaker 1>one of those um oh, what's it called the scope?

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<v Speaker 1>One anomalous scope. I took one of those online, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said I had just very weak um color blindness,

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<v Speaker 1>which I wasn't very surprised by because dark colors are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard for me to differentiate. Sometimes they said

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't see black or white. You're like Michael Jackson, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, man. I've always said that. No one ever

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<v Speaker 1>listened until now, until I proved it on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet, and thank out for the Internet. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk a little history, because believe it

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<v Speaker 1>or not, there is color blindness history. And I should

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<v Speaker 1>say also, Chuck, I looked up the more politically correct

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<v Speaker 1>term for color blindness and there really isn't one. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's great. Yeah, so you can feel free to

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<v Speaker 1>use color blind in good conscience. Okay, fantastic. So um

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<v Speaker 1>back in s John Dalton, who came up with atomic theory.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a pretty important, um early scientist. He presented

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<v Speaker 1>his first scientific paper and was on color blindness. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that I never heard of the guy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so um. He his first It was, from what anybody

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<v Speaker 1>can can tell, the first scientific paper on color blindness,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wrote it about himself. He and his brother

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<v Speaker 1>were both color blind, and he posited that he had

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of blue fluid in his eye that was

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<v Speaker 1>affecting his color vision. And he willed that when he

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<v Speaker 1>died his ib dissected and when they did, um they

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<v Speaker 1>found that no, it was pretty normal. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>blue fluid in there. And later on they preserved his

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<v Speaker 1>eye tissue and was diagnosed with something called um dudinopia.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was a duduran in the parliance of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are color blind, meaning that he lacked um functioning

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<v Speaker 1>green cones or medium wave cones in his eye. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>So he was the first, dude, Huh, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>first one to write a scientific paper on it, at

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<v Speaker 1>least good for him and bad for him. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so too. I don't want to like overstate

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<v Speaker 1>how bad I feel for people who have color blindness,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know they're like living life and enjoying it

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. But I would not want to be color

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<v Speaker 1>blind if I had my druthers, you know, no, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure most people who are color blind would feel

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<v Speaker 1>the same way. Uh. You know, John Fuller used to

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<v Speaker 1>work with us. I believe he has some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>color blindness or maybe calling it color vision deficiency. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that is a better term because color blind. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that don't know anything about it might think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're color blind, then you see in black and white,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a form of color blindness. But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>most extreme form. There's definitely a gradient, appropriately enough, between

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<v Speaker 1>full color vision, which is called trichromacy, and complete color blindness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the vision a little bit. Um, have

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<v Speaker 1>we done one on the eye? Dude? I was like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this sounds kind of familiar, and I

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<v Speaker 1>looked high and low and could not find anything on

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<v Speaker 1>vision on seeing on the eye. Nothing. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we did like maybe a video on this

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<v Speaker 1>once or something, but but it's some of it seemed familiar,

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't find an episode on Alright, So we

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<v Speaker 1>have a retina in our eye. Uh, like everyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>the retina. Since this light deals with color and vision,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are rods and cones. These are they're called

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<v Speaker 1>rods and cones because of their shape. They look like

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<v Speaker 1>cones or rods. So rods help you see in low light,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cones are what where the detail and the

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<v Speaker 1>color come from. So the cone mauthfunctioning or not being

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<v Speaker 1>there at all if you don't have three cones, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have at least two to see in

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<v Speaker 1>any color. But if one of those cones of the three,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do have three, is malfunctioning, then you will

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<v Speaker 1>fall somewhere on the scale of color vision deficiency. Right right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's like, um something called so like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have normal color vision, you have trichromacy. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have anomalous trichromacy, it means that one of those

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<v Speaker 1>cones is not functioning properly, although they all still work there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just out of alignment a little bit. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it can get out of alignment is

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<v Speaker 1>is those cones, each of them has UM a chromos

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<v Speaker 1>chromophore I think is what it's called, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a little molecule that is attuned to a certain type

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<v Speaker 1>of UM, a certain wavelength of the visible spectrum, and

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<v Speaker 1>those wavelengths that it picks up kind of overlap depending

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<v Speaker 1>on the cone. Like red and green cones what they

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<v Speaker 1>what they pick up on the visible spectrum overlap big time.

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<v Speaker 1>Green and blue kind of overlap, and then red and

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<v Speaker 1>blue overlap least. But if the if the alignment of

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<v Speaker 1>the wavelength to the visible spectrum within that cone is

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit off, you're not going to see

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<v Speaker 1>colors like other people see colors, but you're still going

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<v Speaker 1>to see something, right, And that's called anomalous trichromacy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And there are well, I mean, there's so many different subcategories.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we should go through some of these. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have that analomus, uh, trichromacy. Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is so hard. You do have your cones, so

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<v Speaker 1>that means you have three cones, but one of those

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<v Speaker 1>cones is defective. So if you have the do deuteronomally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a funmany. No, wait, that's a Bible book, right,

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<v Speaker 1>What is it do to randomally? That's right, it just

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<v Speaker 1>sounds weird. Yeah, I think I'm really bad with amalies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just nailed it, man. Yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was clumsy, but that's fine. Do to anomaly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dou to anomaly, it's it's an anomaly of your duds,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So that do to anomaly you're just talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's if your green cones are out of alignment, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's pro to anomaly or protnomally, and that's your

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<v Speaker 1>red cones being out of alignment. And then tried anomaly

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<v Speaker 1>is blue all right. So if you're missing a cone altogether,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for malfunctioning. You have three, but one of them

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work quite right. If you're missing one altogether, you

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<v Speaker 1>have dichromatic vision. Uh. And then we said, of course

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<v Speaker 1>that the worst is monochromacy. That's that's if that's basically

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<v Speaker 1>seeing in black and white and sort of shades of gray.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you are a dichromat or a person with

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<v Speaker 1>dichromatic vision, maybe that's the PC distinction. It's to not

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<v Speaker 1>call someone a dichromat. Maybe you think maybe I saw

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<v Speaker 1>UM depending on your your condition, they're like abbreviated terms

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<v Speaker 1>for it. But I saw people being referred to as

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<v Speaker 1>dichromats all the time. But it really flies in the

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<v Speaker 1>face of that whole thing of describing people by their

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<v Speaker 1>condition rather than like a person with dichromacy, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Yeah, Well, within the dichromat though, there

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<v Speaker 1>are the three different subtypes, which are the du to,

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<v Speaker 1>the proto, and the trita. That's the easiest way to

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<v Speaker 1>say it, right, So that's what those fall under. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so the big difference between UM anomalous trichromacy and dichromacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Dichromacy says it all is. It means you have two

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<v Speaker 1>functioning cones and because of all that overlap, chuck with

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<v Speaker 1>all of the wavelengths that the different pigments and your

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<v Speaker 1>cones catch, that's a huge pellette of colors that are

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<v Speaker 1>produced in the human brain when we look around. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you remove one of those cones, there's an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>reduction in colors. Supposedly, each cone multiplies the number of

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<v Speaker 1>colors by a hundred. So if you start out with

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<v Speaker 1>just one cone, let's say you can see a hundred shades.

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<v Speaker 1>Just by adding a second cone, you can now see

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand different colors, and by adding a third cone,

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<v Speaker 1>you can now see a million different colors. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you remove one of those cones, you're suddenly down

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<v Speaker 1>to ten thousand colors. That's a significant difference. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about dichromacy is it's not that your your

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<v Speaker 1>cones are misaligned. One of your cones just is not

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<v Speaker 1>producing at all, and so you're lacking a whole range

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<v Speaker 1>of colors that that other people with all three functioning

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<v Speaker 1>cones can see. Right. And like I said earlier, with monochromacy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you see basically in black and white and gray.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are two types there, rod monochromacy and cone type.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have the Rod type, you also have

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<v Speaker 1>very poor vision and you're very sensitive to light. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>In you might also have something called uh nystagmus, which

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<v Speaker 1>that is when you have they call it dancing eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when um, there's a horizontal version, which means your

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<v Speaker 1>your eye basically darts back and forth to the left

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<v Speaker 1>and to the right constantly. Like prove Taylor Vince does

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<v Speaker 1>he have that? You'd recognize him? And and like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just well known for he's the actor with Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I know him. I just never noticed his eye. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>really yeah, yeah, he Like you can tell the directors like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's let's really get that going for this scene. Okay, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you think about the color wheel red, orange, yellow, blue, indigo, green, violet,

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<v Speaker 1>I said them out of order. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that would spell. It doesn't spell roy g bib though.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're color blind, like everyone wants to know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it look like if you're color blind? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a little hard to describe because it's very

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<v Speaker 1>subjective when you think about how each person sees color,

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<v Speaker 1>because imagine everyone sees things a little bit differently. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're color blind, that palette is just not as varied.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more muted, Yeah for sure, because again those different

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<v Speaker 1>cones are interacting, they're overlapping to produce a huge palette

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<v Speaker 1>of colors. It's not like we just see everything in red, green,

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<v Speaker 1>and blue. There's those those things mixed together and interact

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<v Speaker 1>to produce colors beyond those three. So yeah, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>missing one, you're you're missing a lot more than just

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<v Speaker 1>green or just red or just blue. Yeah, and things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't mean it's altogether gone either, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's on a spectrum, and it depends what kind you have,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it could be reddish but very muted, or green

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<v Speaker 1>could look a more green gray. But it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of robust standard color wheel that that you're

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<v Speaker 1>used to seeing with. Uh what what I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>would consider normal color vision for sure. And like if

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<v Speaker 1>you have one of the opius, if you have like proteonopia,

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<v Speaker 1>which is um, your red cones don't function it all.

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<v Speaker 1>The reds are brownish, the purples are bluish, Your yellows

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<v Speaker 1>totally normal. Um. But the green is also kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a weird kind of khaki brown itself. And that

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<v Speaker 1>um that really overlaps with do to in opia too.

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<v Speaker 1>The big difference between those is that you're um, your

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<v Speaker 1>red what would look like a dark dark brown too.

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<v Speaker 1>A protein ope, uh for doo to and open, it

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<v Speaker 1>would look kind of like a kind of a drab,

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<v Speaker 1>brownish olive, which is not what you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at like a bright red apple. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that huge olive right, looks delicious And then

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<v Speaker 1>you take a bite and you're like, that's no olive.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, let's take a break, has some olives, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about animals and testing for color blindness right

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<v Speaker 1>after this. All right, So, I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have always uh heard growing up on the playground

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<v Speaker 1>that animals see in black and white, especially dogs and

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<v Speaker 1>cats see in black and white. Some animals see in color,

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<v Speaker 1>some see in black and white. It kind of depends. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Dogs and cats they actually do see color, they just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see the whole roy gb of color spectrum that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I know. Um apparently apes and monkeys see

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<v Speaker 1>the same way we do. Then you have really color

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<v Speaker 1>blind animals like black and white types like raccoons, seals, whales,

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<v Speaker 1>uh black and white types, and then birds apparently see

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<v Speaker 1>uh seed more color than we do. Yeah, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's other um animals that see things like

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<v Speaker 1>ultra violet, like there's a visible spectrum, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we humans see where Technically, if you had like some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of chromophore and an option that work together in

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<v Speaker 1>a cone to to produce the red, green, or blue,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had when that was a tuned to gamma

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<v Speaker 1>raise or X rays or ultra violet or infrared, we

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to see in those two. But we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that. But other animals are attuned to other things.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, from what I saw, two birds seem to

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<v Speaker 1>really see colors like nobody's business. Those birds and dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, tend to see blues and yellows just like us,

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<v Speaker 1>in a little more robustly. And the other colors on

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum are more muted or just don't show up

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<v Speaker 1>like we see them at all, or more like browns

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. So if you get your dog

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<v Speaker 1>a ball, you want a blue ball or a yellow ball,

0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that it will be able to spot those a lot easier. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean they can't see it. It just means

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<v Speaker 1>they'll see a grayish ball, right, Yeah, if you get like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>yes for sure, but um, who wants to play with

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<v Speaker 1>the gray ball? Okay, I think it's my point. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't always wonder how they test for that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in animals. You just ask, yeah, blue right, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good Scooby impression. Alright. So testing for this you can

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<v Speaker 1>go on the internet, of course, and you took one

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<v Speaker 1>of the anomalous scope tests. I took what is known

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<v Speaker 1>as a p I P which is a test called

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<v Speaker 1>the Ishihara uh plate and pseudo isochromatic plate. So this

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<v Speaker 1>was a doctor in Japan. He developed this test for

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<v Speaker 1>the Japanese Army, doctor Ishihara. And if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it, it looks it's really kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 1>slightly psychedelic looking. It's a circle composed of a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of little colored dots. Back in the day, he would

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<v Speaker 1>just hold up cards like a ror check test, like

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<v Speaker 1>watercolor cards. Yeah, and it's a circle with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of little are dots in the middle, and then within

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<v Speaker 1>all those dots there is the shape of a number

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<v Speaker 1>composed of different variations of colors. So there will be

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<v Speaker 1>like a circle with a bunch of dots that are

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<v Speaker 1>mainly red and shades of red, and then within that

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<v Speaker 1>will be like a number four that's really really close

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<v Speaker 1>and it depends. Some of them really stand out as

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<v Speaker 1>obvious and some of them really blend in or camouflaged almost,

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<v Speaker 1>and you pick out these numbers and say what number

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing, and then after you go through this whole series,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be able to say, like, you know, you're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good on the reds, but you obviously have trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>the greens or something like that. Yeah, because depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what color scheme they use, if you are like a

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<v Speaker 1>protein ope and can't see reds, you're you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to pick out the red three that's

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<v Speaker 1>embedded within these dots because you can't see red. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all just going to fade together and just look like

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<v Speaker 1>a field of dots to you, whereas somebody else who

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<v Speaker 1>can see heads would just see it clear as day

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a three in the middle of that circle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty ingenious test, and that was that was like

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<v Speaker 1>the test for a while, but it's definitely advanced by

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<v Speaker 1>leaps and bounds um since then. There's there's more tests

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<v Speaker 1>than than just showed up in this articles. One I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember the name of it, but it's made of

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<v Speaker 1>you have four rows of something like twenty or thirty

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<v Speaker 1>tiles of varying shades across the spectrum and you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to basically put them in order to match a line

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<v Speaker 1>like a control line, and um, it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>an anomalous gope test, but it's more hands on. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's one that the I think the Coast Guard

0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.359
<v Speaker 1>in the Navy and the Air Force use um called

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<v Speaker 1>the Falworth Lantern test or sorry, Farnsworth Lantern test. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My uh, my brother in laws a marine and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot and he had to take this, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is an additional test. Basically, if you fail the pit test,

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<v Speaker 1>then you will use this. The f A also uses

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<v Speaker 1>it because if you want to be a pilot, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be color blind, so it's basically a backup.

0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's like a little box that shows you colored

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<v Speaker 1>lights and you have to identify these colored lights as

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.640
<v Speaker 1>they come up from a distance. Uh. They'll show two

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<v Speaker 1>at a time, maybe one at a time, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to pick them out and identify the colors.

0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.439
<v Speaker 1>But they do dim Uh they use a filter, so

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't cheat your way through by knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>something is bright, so it might be yellow, right, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if when you start looking at colored lights

0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, it does become clear that some

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<v Speaker 1>are just brighter than others, which is why I think

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<v Speaker 1>people who have yellow blue color blindness or triton opes um,

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<v Speaker 1>they tend to be very sensitive to bright light jay

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<v Speaker 1>which kind of makes sense in a in a weird way.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of this stuff, I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>how how does that happen? In you know, like due

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<v Speaker 1>to an opia and protonopia, they overlap so much that

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<v Speaker 1>they call both of them red red, green color blindness,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both see reds as browns and they see

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<v Speaker 1>greens as browns. But it's just bizarre to meet. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I really kind of drill into it, the actual

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<v Speaker 1>details of it are are really fascinating because you you

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<v Speaker 1>just are raised your whole life to think like, this

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.280
<v Speaker 1>person can't see red, this person can't see green, this

0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.800
<v Speaker 1>person can't see blue. And it's as simple as that.

0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's the exact opposite of as simple as that

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<v Speaker 1>in reality, because there's there's so much nuance to colors

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<v Speaker 1>that are produced by these three r GB cones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I imagine diagnosing a kid. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>not I mean, we'll talk a little bit about living

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<v Speaker 1>with color blindness in a bit but it's it's and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from people. It's not like it

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<v Speaker 1>might hamper you. I don't think to the point of danger.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe if you were a monochromat that might

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<v Speaker 1>be possible, but it seems like more than an inconvenience

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<v Speaker 1>than anything else. Right, you'd be like, what is this

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>black liquid pouring out from a major artery in my arm?

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what this is. If it were red,

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<v Speaker 1>I would know its blood. Yeah. Uh. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>how it's caused, it is uh, largely genetic, although um,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some drugs and diseases and conditions it could

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<v Speaker 1>cause it later in life, but it's generally genetic. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so um. Especially red green color blindness is uh what

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Sex linked? Recessive? Yeah? And and way more

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<v Speaker 1>men and way more Caucasian men get it than women.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not quite sure about the Caucasian part. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't find any explanation for that. But there's a very

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<v Speaker 1>clear and easy explanation for why more men have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Something like eight percent of Caucasian men and I think

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<v Speaker 1>like five percent of Asian men tend to have red

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<v Speaker 1>green color blindness of some some varying degree, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have red green color blindness, of people are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have mild and the other are going to have

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<v Speaker 1>it so severe that it would basically be proteonopia. Do

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<v Speaker 1>do to anopia, which again means your cones are starting

0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.639
<v Speaker 1>aren't functioning, just like one of your cones isn't. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why there's way more men than women, I

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<v Speaker 1>think something like point five percent of the population in

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<v Speaker 1>the US of women have color blindness is because it's

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<v Speaker 1>carried on the X chromosome. And since it's recessive, men

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<v Speaker 1>only have a one X chromosome and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>Y chromosome, which means that they're all of their color

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 1>vision genes are just on the X chromosome. And since

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<v Speaker 1>it's recessive, if that one gene is defective and that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have normal color vision, that the man is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have color blindness. But for a woman, it takes

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<v Speaker 1>two defective chromosome genes, right, that's right. So that makes it, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>sex linked recessive, which is kind of that could be

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<v Speaker 1>an okay album name. I don't know about a band

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<v Speaker 1>name sex linked Recessive, sure, yeah, uh. And I talked

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>about diseases and conditions UM, Glaucoma's one, diabetes, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's leukemia, MS,

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 1>sickle cell alcoholism. If you literally drink yourself color blind

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like that sounds like something made up. Yeah it does.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you wouldn't be able to detect the pink

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>elephant anymore. Yeah, that's true. You say, who is that

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.120
<v Speaker 1>gray elephant? And they say all elephants are gray? Drinking

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.879
<v Speaker 1>yourself color blind? Man? That is that's nuts. That's a

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:50.160
<v Speaker 1>tom Wait song. There's also um it should be for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also like some drugs that can do it too, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get to look into these as much though,

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<v Speaker 1>but it says that digitalis and chloroquine, you know, the

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 1>second ones of malaria treatment and the first one is

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>a reckless heart treatment. Um, but I guess both of

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>them can cause color blindness. The thing about color blindness,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's acquired, if it's if it's um genetic, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably red green, you're probably a boy and you're probably

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Caucasian boy, still likeliness, But if it's acquired, it's likelier

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<v Speaker 1>that um, you're yellow blue color blind? Right, Yeah, and

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 1>that can actually get better if it's acquired, it can

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>get worse, but it can also go away, depending on say,

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>if you stop using the drug that is causing color blindness,

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>or maybe you give up drinking. Right, But there's no

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<v Speaker 1>cure for color blindness genetically, so you can't take a

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>pill or get a shot or get any kind of treatment. Um.

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>There apparently are corrective lenses that they have out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but UM, I don't know about that. That doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a great idea. I'm not sure how effective those are.

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Supposedly they like kind of work for color, but they

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<v Speaker 1>also affect like depth perception too, which it's kind of

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>robbing Peter to pay Paul in that sense. Maybe even

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>worse than that. Interesting and I looked them up there

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 1>they don't seem to be any further along than when

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>this article was written. But um, there's gene therapy. It

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>just hasn't been tested in humans, but it's been shown

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to work in monkeys where they inject genetic material directly

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>into the eye and hope for the best. But apparently

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it works in monkeys. Again, same thing as what you

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.919
<v Speaker 1>were saying, how do you how do you know do

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>you test for color blindness and animals? It's I want

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to know it's fascinating just the idea of it. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully they'll right in. So let's take a break and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll come back and talk about living with color blindness. Chuck,

0:24:50.040 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 1>how about that? Alright? So, like I said before, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do want to hear from people that are

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>are color blind. It seems like more of an inconvenience

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 1>than an actual danger or a threat. Um it does

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it could limit like maybe what kind of job you

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>might want to get. Um, Like I said, you can't

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>be color blind if you're a pilot or if you

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>want to be a pilot. Um, it's funny they mentioned

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>in here if you're an electrician, like color coded wires

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>are never really thought about that. But this is probably

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good point where I guess if you're may

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>never work for a bomb squad. Oh yeah, that's a

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>good one. That's your life calling. That's sad. Also saw

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>if you're a meat inspector, you probably can't be color blind.

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<v Speaker 1>Um looks good to me, right, it's all gray. It's that,

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>it's all good. And the similarly, if you um have

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<v Speaker 1>a red color blindness, you can't tell whether steaks cooked

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 1>or not based on color. And uh, Similarly, you if

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a green color blindness, you might have trouble

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.719
<v Speaker 1>with ripe fruit, whether fruits ripe or not. Luckily, anyone

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that knows what they're doing with a steak, you could

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>be blindfolded and cooking steak right. Sure, And plus it,

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>even if you don't know what you're doing, there's meat

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 1>thermometers that I have to do is get to like

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>one sixty I think, And you're all right, yeah, But

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean we've talked enough about cooking steak in here.

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a time thing, a temperature thing, and

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>at the very least you can touch it and know

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Sure, if it's if it gives your

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>thumb frost bite, probably not done yet, because if you're

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>cooking a steak by color, that means you're you're cutting

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<v Speaker 1>into the steak to see if it's done, which is

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the worst thing you could ever do. It's it's a sin. Yeah,

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm horrified at that whole notion. I am

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<v Speaker 1>too choke. What about little kids getting dressed and coloring crayons.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why crayons are labeled. But I mean, if they

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<v Speaker 1>use some names that don't really mean anything to the color.

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>That's not very helpful, you know. But yeah, if you

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>have crayons with the labels peeled off and your color blind,

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that's not good. Um. I also saw diamond appraisers so interesting,

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>casino dealers, the chip colors um. But now they have

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>things like software that can actually change colors on the

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<v Speaker 1>web so that you can see them more clearly depending

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<v Speaker 1>on what kind of color blindness you have. Interesting, so

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<v Speaker 1>that I think it used to be like a real problem,

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and then they came up with a lot of different

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>software that you can buy and just run on your computer. Um,

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 1>which that's got to help quite a bit. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't surprise me. I mean I figured in the olden

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<v Speaker 1>days it was just like, well, sorry for you, But

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>but now there are so many different things that they

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>can do to to help people out with various like

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>slight conditions like this for sure. And I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the worries were kind of overblown. Um, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the f a A used to used to say like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have normal color vision to be an

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<v Speaker 1>f a A employee, and they repeal that because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many other ways you can design things other than colors. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's still a problem for it. I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>like with color blindness, UM, the same light will be

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<v Speaker 1>used on like an electronic thing to show it's fully

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<v Speaker 1>charged or to show it needs charging, Whereas if you

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<v Speaker 1>just have a light blink to show that it needs charging,

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that would help tremendously, rather than just using a green

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>for fully charged in red for needing charging. Doesn't help

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody with color blindness because it just looks like an

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<v Speaker 1>ugly brown light to them. Um. I never thought about that.

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>A lot of things blinking right, And I'll bet that's why. Actually,

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>because it's just a better design, not using different colored

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>chalked for emphasis in school, UM, using for graphs rather

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>than like just colors. You can also use like cross

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>hatching or dots or something like that to indicate differences. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the reason I said why it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>people are coming around to the idea of it being

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<v Speaker 1>unsafe to to be color blind in this world, um

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>being overblown. Japan had a real like um bias against

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<v Speaker 1>people with color blindness for many, many years. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>read the article I sent? I didn't see that one

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>man so back in I think n the crown Prince

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>hera Hito was about to marry um a woman, and

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out that she had color blindness in her family,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the one of the royal families stepped

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<v Speaker 1>up and was like, I don't want marrying this this

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>girl because her family has color blindness in in her lineage.

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And the marriage went on anyway, but the publicity involved

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>really got people's attention and they really took it to heart,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and for decades up until a few years ago, there

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<v Speaker 1>was discrimination against people who were colorblind, Like you could

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<v Speaker 1>not enroll in some high school courses or college courses

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<v Speaker 1>if you were tested as color blind, and all kids

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>were tested at a young age to see whether they

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>were color blind or not. Um you couldn't get some jobs,

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and not even where it was conceivably safe or unsafe.

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.959
<v Speaker 1>It was just like discrimination against people who are color blind.

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>In some cases, people who were fully blind could enroll

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>in some courses that people who are color blind could not,

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So there was like no scientific basis to it whatsoever.

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>It was strictly like this kind of um distaste for

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>color blindness that had been the culture since is finally

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>fading away as as um as time goes on, they

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>stop testing kids in Japan in the last year or two, um,

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>for color blindness, because they're like, we understand it better

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>now and you're not a monster for being color blind. Man,

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing, isn't that interesting? Yeah? Yeah, something I should know?

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>So color blindness? Chucky? Got anything else? Uh? No? Well,

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>actually that one little interesting tidbit that apparently people that

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>are color blind can pick out camouflage better because they

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>look more at texture than in the actual color. Yeah,

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw that they make better spotters for sniper teams.

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Nice yea, I guess so, um, all right, what about now?

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>You got anything else? Now? Nothing else? So if you

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>want to know more about color blindness, go ask somebody

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>who's color blind. I'm sure they are gonna have some

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>fascinating stuff for you. And we want to hear from

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>color blind people too, So please let us know what

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like to live as buddy with a color vision

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>deficiency or color blindness, or let us know exactly what

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>we should say. And uh, since I said that, it's

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>time for a listener mate, Alright, I'm gonna call this

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>uh little prices right follow up? Okay, we just released

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>our live game show live in Denver, Colorado, where we

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of our stuff. You should know. Army

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>members traveled in and met each other for the first time. Yeah,

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that was pretty cool, which is really really neat. We

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>had a backstage hang and uh, you know who you are, folks,

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So it was it's great to see you as always.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back to Denver because we did two sold

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>out shows there. Yeah, it was. It's a great town.

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It was really good. All right. So here we go

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>with a little bit about the prices. Right, Hey, guys,

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>fairly new listeners started in July. Wow, we'll welcome to

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the show. David um but he's working his way backwards,

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>which is great. So he listened to game shows and

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>he said, I'm a child of the eighties and like Chuck,

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>my sum or in home sick from school days were

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>built around a plethora of awesome daily game shows. When

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about the Price is Right, Chuck mentioned trotting out

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to the very tough Cliffhanger game. Uh. And this might

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>throw me into the dork category, but I'm obsessed with

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>getting on the show. I've been to three tapings in

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the past year, and I've studied tips and tricks. So

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>he's like, uh, what's his face. Oh, man, I was

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the guy who beat Uh yeah, Michael Larson. Yeah, Michael Larson,

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>except he's the Michael Larson of of Cliffhanger. He said,

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>he claims this is a full proof way to win,

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>so listen up, everybody. Every time he's done it, it's worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the trick. For the first item, bid twenty dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the actual prices, doesn't matter, Add eleven dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>make that the bid on the second item. Then whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the actual prices for that item, add eleven dollars to that.

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>And he said it works every single time. Weird. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why. I don't know. Well, they're probably gonna change

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you because, as everyone knows, Drew Carey listens to stuff

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you should know religiously. I'm sure Drew Carey does not

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>care one bit who wins and who loses. Uncle Iffhanger.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man. I read this. I think a

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>g Q Vanity Fair article about this guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>accused of cheating on the prizes, right, and Drew Carey

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 1>was mad about the idea. Well, sure, if you cheat,

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's true. Yeah, that's a big distinction. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he says this my other interesting tidbit is

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<v Speaker 1>regarding the Japanese game show that you discussed to Catchy's Castle.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting in two thousand three, Spike TV took old episodes

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and dubbed them in English, and it totally transformed into

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the funniest things you'd ever watch. If you

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>have twenty minutes to burn, hop on the YouTube and

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<v Speaker 1>catch an episode. Thanks for the great work that is

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>David Mills. Uh. I have a cousin named David Mills,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>and I'm assuming that is not you. You never know.

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Surely he would have just texted me cousin Dave. He's

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the formal type. He doesn't like to take shortcuts except

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the cliffhanger. Well, thanks a lot, cousin Dave. We appreciate that.

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