1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get too close to you. Right, We're 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna be party buddies. Right, we're gonna be watching sports buddies. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: But did it was position He's a powerful guy, so 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: they a lot of people position themself to him as friends. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 4: The federal law enforcement agents have raided properties owned by 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 4: the musician and producer Sean did he comes? 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 5: Did he's persona change? Like the way people view him? 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: Like, I mean, if we're gonna talk about that, you 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: gotta go down a rabbit hole of Bill Cosby, Bill 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: Cosby Wance of beloved TV Dad and Tonight and Judge 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: now determining. 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: That he is a sexually violent predator. 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: Where all his industry buddies at all the people that 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: made money with him made music with him? 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 3: I mean, are them his buddies or his business partners? 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: My man? 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 5: Just a business don they We're seeing that large presidence. 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: It was a very important person at a streaming service, 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: and I kept hearing everybody record was breaking because this 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: person was putting them on a specific plates. 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 5: Now niggas want allure me to death. 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No, certainly talking about Big. 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: I'm talking about you everywhere. 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: And Big got to gotcha. 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: That's just that's more than Jesse being a circumstance, whereas 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: it's like yore gonna plug with Netflix, unplugged with and 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: not that you know it's a comparison, but I think 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: it's more so highlighting your ability to navigate the industry 70 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: for sure. 71 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: And everybody path is different, right, you know what I mean? 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: Everybody path is different For me personally, I started like 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: really rocking with the brands during the pandemic. Right, so 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: you gotta think I get signed in November twenty nineteen, Right, 75 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: I get signed to Atlantic. Shout out the Dallas martin 76 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: my head and nor He in the next room. But 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: I get signed November twenty nineteen. We in the studio 78 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: for four months straight. We released the first single, March 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I Want to Say March eighth, twenty twenty. Pandemics started 80 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: three days later, and a fresh deal, A fresh deal, 81 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: Fresh deal. So that happens. I dropped another song called 82 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Birds in the Bando and things wasn't reacting because the 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: world was just in this crazy space where nobody knew 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: what was going on like that. So I just started 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: getting on Instagram. I started getting on Instagram and I 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: just started rapping bro like fa. I remember Fab had 87 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: a Cold Summer Challenge. I did that and just Little 88 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Baby had dropped We Paid, and that was one of 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: my favorite songs at the time. So I rapped on 90 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: that and Snoop reposted it man the next day while 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: and Gil was out here filming. They called me and 92 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: was like, pull up on us. We started rapping. They 93 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: posted the next day. So I just started getting a 94 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: lot of coverage for rapping, right. So when I started 95 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: noticing that, I'm like, man, maybe this is something I 96 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: could do during this time right now where things is 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: shut down. 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: So that's the innovation though, Yeah, and that's that Swiss 99 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: army knife. Yeah, because what if you were only a 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: record kind. 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: Of guy, I would have been stuck in that space. 102 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: And also look at look at what that does to 103 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: the labels business perspective. We just dumped some money into 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: this guy. Hit it didn't react. Hit it might not react. Yeah, 105 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: we gonna pull back at some point. Yeah, you know 106 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But you started to put more irons 107 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: in the. 108 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: Fire exactly exactly. 109 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: I kept going so through me moving around and wrap it, 110 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I need to go to a bigger 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: platform and rap than just Instagram. So I went to 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: the La Leakers and that was the day they kind 113 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: of changed everything for me. When I dropped the La 114 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Leakers freestyle, Lebron posted it thirty minutes later, and I 115 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: think I had like one hundred thousand followers. 116 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: And have you ever asked Lebron how you got on 117 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: his radar? How you get on Draymond ray? 118 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: Though? 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: See this is what the young creators underust gotta they. 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: Don't know that. 121 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 5: Yo, you're not gonna get the Lebron Like. 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: I love that question because my guy right here, we 123 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: was just talking at lunch the other day and I 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 1: was like, Bro, I hate when I watched certain things 125 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: and everybody got the cliche ass question that doesn't explain 126 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: how things fully on the phone, you know what I mean. 127 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: So I love that. So I'm gonna break the whole 128 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: thing down. I guess signed Dallas my A and R. 129 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: That's from Atlantic Records, right, He's from Flint, Michigan. Draymond's 130 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: from Michigan. He has a friend named Blenning, right, and 131 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: they have a mutual friend. Blenning and Draymond always came 132 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: to the studio. So when Dallas first started putting me 133 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: in the lab every day, they just pulling up, Man, 134 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: they just pulling up. So I'm in there rapping and 135 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: were just having conversations, just kicking it, having conversation. And 136 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: that led to me going to games, you know what 137 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, seeing him at the games, being out seeing him, 138 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: meeting Rich Paul, you know what I mean, Different things 139 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: like that. So I never had met Bron yet. But 140 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: by the time that freestyle happened, Draymond had already sent 141 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: like four of my songs to Bron, like little Homie tough, 142 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: like I rock with Bro like this the homie check 143 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: him out, check him out, check him out. So when 144 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: the freestyle happened, Bron it kind of already knew about 145 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: me and was kind of rocking with me a little bit. 146 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: Reposted the freestyle Bro, and it was crazy. 147 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 148 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: But see, I can relate to that too because I'm 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: in the game. But the young creators coming up, yeah, 150 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: they are being Lebron d m Yeah, check mout, family, 151 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: check out. 152 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: That ain't the way that goes. That ain't the way 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: that I give you a quick story. I remember coming 154 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: up right. I'm not going to say the person's name 155 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: because I don't know if they're married or not at 156 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: the moment, and I don't want to ruin anything, But 157 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: there was a very important person at a streaming service 158 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: right when I before I got my deal. I'm talking 159 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen. I'm trying to figure out a way 160 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: to even get on the radar of getting a deal, right, 161 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's another thing like artists 162 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: like y'all gotta understand. It ain't that people not fucking 163 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: with y'all. Y'all just not on people's radar exactly. You 164 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like y'all could feel like, oh, 165 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: he hating on me, or he cock blocking or he 166 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: ignoring me, or he you fe me like he don't 167 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: want to see me win. It's like, bro, he might 168 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: be on a boat somewhere. You're not even crossing his timeline, 169 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 170 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: There's there's really when you get to a certain level, 171 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: and this is important, man, y'all gotta tap into this. 172 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: When you get to a certain level, not like one 173 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: of us, it's even hard to get to us, but 174 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: when you on a Lebron or bro qcp bro Wallo, 175 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: in of these kind of level, it's just no way 176 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: to get directly to It's no way You're gonna have 177 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: to be put on to them by someone in their circle. 178 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: So back to the story I was telling, right, I 179 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: was saying all that to say, here's how I got 180 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: on the radar before I even got a chance to 181 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: get a meeting to get a deal. It was a 182 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: very important person at a streaming service, and I kept 183 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: hearing everybody Records was breaking because this person was putting 184 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: them on a specific playlist right, And I'm like, man, 185 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: how can I get this person to hear my music? 186 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: Because I had a song at the time that was 187 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: real catchy and I felt like it fit that playlist right. 188 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: So I'm like, how could I get this person to 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: hear my music? So I went to his page and 190 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I looked at who he followed, and I noticed he 191 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: followed a lot of women, right, So I started dming 192 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: the women he followed and was like, Yo, I give 193 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: you twenty dollars if you post my song on your story. 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 5: This is the game. 195 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: I give you forty dollars if you post my song 196 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: on your story. So he started then all the women 197 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: on his timeline posting the song. Two weeks later, the 198 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: song got added to the playlist exactly. 199 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 2: And this is the fucking innovation you gotta have when 200 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: you're coming from nothing. These are the stories of the 201 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: guys that had to crawl out the mud. These ain't 202 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: the guys that was lifted up. These are the stories 203 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: of the guys that had to crawl. 204 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: And shout out to those who have been lifted up. 205 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: Facts because it's hard climbing out the mud and sometimes 206 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: niggas need a hand, you know what I mean. Ain't 207 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with getting help, you know what I mean, 208 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: So shout out to the people that. 209 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: Is more outlift. 210 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: It is more often that you're not gonna get the 211 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: help into the help is just beneficial, mutually beneficial. 212 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: Sure. 213 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: And so even in that moment you're getting added on 214 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: that playlist, wasn't a mutually beneficial situation? 215 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 5: Sure? 216 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: Right, So when we talk about getting on people radars, 217 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: this has to be a situation where you they really 218 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: get nothing for fucking with you in that moment. But 219 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: you gotta be organically introduced because if he comes off 220 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: its Bro, I'll tell you what just happened to me. 221 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: I hire someone, and I'll keep the name out of here. 222 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: I hire someone because I don't reach out. I don't 223 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: know how to reach out for interviews. Like all my 224 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: interviews have came organically from baby anybody. 225 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: It's just been like, Bro, I fuck with what you do. 226 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 5: I'm coming to that. 227 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: And so now I'm in the business, I'm operating with 228 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: two or three deals and I'm this is a serious thing. 229 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: So now I need to kind of forecast it a 230 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: little bit different and be a little more diligent with it. 231 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: I hire a guy, sent him a list of people 232 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: I want to get on the show. You know, I 233 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: can get in touch with anybody in this game me 234 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: by myself, like one call. 235 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: And so I give him a few names. He reached 236 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 5: out to one and he hit me back. 237 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: I don't know how he reached out or what he 238 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: reached out, but he hit me back and he said, Yo, man, 239 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: they said they ain't doing doing the show. 240 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: They don't do podcasts. 241 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: I said, you sure they know it's me because listen 242 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: the person I sent them to. 243 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 5: Every time I. 244 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: See them, it is what it is. They stay reposting me, 245 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: they stay on comment. So something is off. And I'm 246 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: knowing this. I'm a street guy. I know this is 247 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: a slam dunk. This is this is a slam dunk 248 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm sending you for. He comes back and said, many, Yeah. 249 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: I told him the name of the podcast. I said, okay, cool, 250 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: give me one second, yo, I need you to jump 251 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: on the show man our nigga. I've been waiting on 252 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: you to sit nigga. 253 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: I'm on too. 254 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 5: I do it now. 255 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: I said, all right, cool, cool man, let's just lock 256 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: it in. I'm gonna put you on the phone with 257 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: I put him on the phone with the people that 258 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm having, you know, schedules. I hear him back, Hey, 259 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: that's locked in. Same with people like sexy Rids. There's 260 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: certain people that I'm shooting. 261 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: Peer to peer. 262 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like that's literally a waste of money to me. 263 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, now I feel you, bro, And it's we were 264 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: just talking about it, like it's it's hard to find that, 265 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: but it's like, at the rate you're moving, you need 266 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: that because it's like you can't always be the person 267 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: that got to reach out to get the interview. You 268 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: got too much going on in life in general. So 269 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: it's like your job should be to pull up and 270 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: do what you do. 271 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 5: That's what I mean. 272 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: Everything needs to be setting place for that to happen. Now. 273 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: The problem with that is it takes time to find 274 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: the right people who's down to help you build that 275 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: out right. That's why I salute La Russell on his 276 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: team so much because it's like everybody's dedicated to a task. 277 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: The cameraman ain't coming around trying to be the rapper, 278 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The producer ain't trying to 279 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: be an influencer. We solely locked in on this. This 280 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: is what we're doing. It's very hard to find that 281 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: in this industry because everybody got a dream. Everybody got 282 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: a dream, bro, what everybody got a dream? And some 283 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: people started off wanting to be a rapper. I didn't 284 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: hire cameraman, bro. That's then God around me spent the 285 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: week with me and literally put the camera down, went 286 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: home and start rapping because they've seen what was going 287 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: on and they're like, Okay, he's doing this, this, this, this, that, 288 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: and the third The part that they forgot was you 289 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: still ain't. 290 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 5: Me exactly, still ain't me I get. 291 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: You can get the saucest, you ain't got the recipe, 292 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like sometimes people 293 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: waste so much time and life chasing things that's not 294 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: for them, you know what I mean, trying to live 295 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: up to others expectations, and for me personally, I've learned 296 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: that like. 297 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: That shit's still your joy, it's still it stills. 298 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: The hard work away from what you've put into it, 299 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just to compare yourself to 300 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: somebody else, it's like. 301 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 5: You know, I'm stuck in that though, man, like, because. 302 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, like number one, I'm so grateful 303 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: to escape, right, and so I take it so serious. 304 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: And I think the business in some sort is competitive. 305 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: If the number some of these numbers are, it's driven 306 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: by the competitive nature of this thing, you know, And 307 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: and so sometimes I'm stuck in that, Like I still 308 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: ain't celebrated nothing, Bro. 309 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: I done went through several I done. 310 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Made a lot of money. You got to bro, I 311 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: celebrated one time. No, Bro, I used to do the 312 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: same thing. And what ends up happening is like you 313 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: drive yourself crazy because it's never enough. 314 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: Right. 315 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: It's like I want a number one record, or you 316 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: get number one record, You're like, I want number one album. 317 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: I want number one album. You get the number one album. 318 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: Now you're like, I want to want to grab me? Right? 319 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: It never stops, right, it never. 320 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: So how do you how do you stop and enjoy 321 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: what's going on? 322 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: You gotta what I'm learning right on my journey because 323 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: I like to look at the industry as a skyscraper, right, 324 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: I like to look at it as a skyscraper. Niggas 325 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: like us, we didn't got past security and we on 326 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: the elevator. Fact it's a lot of niggas who ain't 327 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: got the address yet, you know what I mean. They 328 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: don't even know where the building is, you know what 329 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: i mean. We on the elevator on the way up. 330 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: So I like to say on my journey to let 331 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: people know I'm still climbing myself. So what I've learned 332 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: on my journey is you have to take time away 333 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: from you. I mean take time away for you for 334 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: sometimes you can't just like every day twenty four to seven, 335 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: just do this. You'll be disconnected. You'll drive yourself crazy. 336 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: You will miss things that's going on with your children, 337 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: things that's going on with your family, your friends, and 338 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: those things are who shape you into who you are 339 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: and mold your character to be able to go take 340 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: this thing on. So you can't forget those things. Like 341 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: I find myself at times when I'm stressing, I just 342 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: put to depend down and call my auntie and we 343 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: just talk about boxing for an hour, you know what 344 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Or I call my mama and we just 345 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: talk about shit, or call one of the homies. But 346 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: it's like you need that time to yourself sometimes just 347 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: to reflect and appreciate the work you've put. 348 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: In you know what I mean. 349 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, I be honest. 350 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm completely disconnected from everybody, everything, the hood, the niggas, 351 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: because like now, I'm just I'm by my mouth, chiir, 352 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm on this journey. I'm just I'm on the voyage. 353 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: I ain't looking back, I ain't look it's lonely, it's 354 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: extremely lonely. But it's profitable, it's very profitable. And so 355 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: for me, I'm sacrificing that right because the overarching goal. Right, 356 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: I got a thing where I look at my little 357 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: boys and I say, dog, I don't know what happened, 358 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: but some clicked in my brain say, oh, this is 359 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: it for them. 360 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 4: Me. 361 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: If I don't save them, they may not They may 362 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: not be saved. And I can't count on them to 363 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: have the thinking I got. That may not be another 364 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: person in my lineage with this thinking. 365 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 4: Ever. 366 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 2: So here's the opportunity now for me to shake all 367 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: this up and make sure we good moving forward. And 368 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: so I just don't sacrifice personally, I don't sacrifice. 369 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: I didn't been there, brought and lost. 370 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: I can show you a picture from a year and 371 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: a half ago with me and twenty two of my homies. 372 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: Going to a show. I probably talked to three of 373 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: them today. You know what I'm saying. 374 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: I didn't sacrifice so many relationships, so much family just 375 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: to get to this point. And then seeing what it's 376 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: gonna take to get to the next level, you start 377 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: seeing like damn, like bru not ready, right, you know 378 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I gotta go here immediately, like 379 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: I gotta move in this window. You feel me and 380 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: I want to take you, but you're just not ready. 381 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: You're not and it's nothing I can do to prepare 382 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: you to get ready in this on because I've been 383 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: doing it, right, I didn't had you with me. 384 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: We then moved around the world. 385 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm teaching you what to do, you seeing other people 386 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: doing it, and you're still not ready. And that can 387 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: go vice versas in a relationship, right, you know what 388 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean. Some people relationships get ruined in this industry 389 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: because it's like the wife or the husband might not 390 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: be ready to what comes with that next level. 391 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 5: Yes, you know what I mean. 392 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: It's a lot in comedy. 393 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: Coming in Like I was, I had a situation, it 394 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: fell apart, Right, I'm not available in the same way, 395 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: not as patient. Probably I'm dealing with more. It's money involved. 396 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 2: I got people trying to steal my trade marks. I 397 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: got people sliding things in contracts. I'm in here with corporations, 398 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: me battling about my worth and the value of this 399 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: thing in the direction of the brain. 400 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 401 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: To get off the phone or to get off these 402 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: means and deal with some of this low level things. 403 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: Becomes disrespectful to my partner because what's low level to 404 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: me is of the highest regards. 405 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: Yep, same here, bro. I went to a situation. I 406 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: was out of town and I was supposed to go 407 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: eat with this chick. We was going to have dinner, 408 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: just kick it, you know, have a good night. 409 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: Aloradi and. 410 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: Somebody I did a song with that's a big artist 411 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: that I won't say right now, y'all hear. 412 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: It on the new album. 413 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: But someone was in town and they had a window 414 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: to finish this song that we was working on for 415 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: a few weeks. So I was like, damn, I gotta 416 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: go to the studio right So I call her. I'm like, yo, 417 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be able to you know. 418 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: Make it. Can we reschedule? 419 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: You see how much time I put into this. I'm like, 420 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: you know how much time I put into this? 421 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 5: Hell is you talking about? 422 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: You talking about some makeup that took you thirty forty 423 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: five minutes? 424 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: Brain you feel next to this ship. 425 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: I've been doing this ship for years, trying to get 426 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: to this point. You think I'm a risk it for this. 427 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: Our date. I'm supposed to risk my whole life because 428 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: you got pretty tonight. 429 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 5: Man, you don't win crazy. Come on, man, you don't 430 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 5: win to. 431 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: Hurt but to her. Right from her perspective, that's what 432 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: it's rude, right right, I probably was rude. I probably 433 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: was wrong. Nah, she just in't consider it because or that. 434 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: We gotta both. We gotta both considered. Like, consider my life. 435 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: Consider my lifestyle too. Now consider everything with me, not 436 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: just my time my time. A lot of people are 437 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: just considered your availability to. 438 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: Him and they take advantage of Man. 439 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: Consider my availability for my kids. This sometimes might get 440 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: in the way of my availability for you. You know 441 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Sometimes people don't even want to share people. Man, 442 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: It's like, damn, bro, I've been chasing this dream all 443 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: my life. Don't you brain your makeup. 444 00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: Next to this? 445 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: You bring it over to me? And bring it the 446 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: idea that you did that. Now I feel. 447 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: Played, Not even I feel played, I just know you 448 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: not ready. 449 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: I feel played because damn, you don't see what You 450 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: don't know what it took to get here. 451 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: That's I understand what you're saying from that perspective, but 452 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: you gotta understand at some point we all realize, like 453 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, they for the streets. 454 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 5: Yes, you know what I'm saying. 455 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: So it's like you know what you're. 456 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: Doing right, yeah, And you ain't tricking me and you 457 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: ain't triggering me. 458 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So why we ain't finish separate, 459 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: try to trick each other on it. 460 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 5: We already know what it is, and let's keep it that. 461 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: Let's keep it that way so when something real happen, 462 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: we already know what what is you tripping like that, folks. 463 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: We already know the game. We already know what it is. 464 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: Man. 465 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 5: Let the game be the game. 466 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: Let the game be the game. 467 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: Stop that, man, and see we we already I ain't 468 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: even introduced the part. 469 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: Welcome to It's Up that podcast. 470 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: We got the talk your active attractive host for another 471 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: episode of the Fashion Going podcast in the market right 472 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: now I want to say welcome, thank you to each 473 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: and every person that has ever shared watch like come 474 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: in and involved being engaged with my content or with 475 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: this brother symbols content. Today we got somebody that I'm 476 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: a fan of that I called the boy the brand 477 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: man because when you look at him and his business, 478 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: what he's been able to do, I just think we 479 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: need to dive into it. And the day we're gonna 480 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: do that, we got some man. What's going on? 481 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: Come on, what's up there? Man's pleasure to be here? Man, 482 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Come on, brother. 483 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 5: The game is the game. I love it. Man. 484 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: You know we're gonna have one of them conversations. We 485 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: already we already went went there. 486 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: And that's the thing, bro. 487 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: Like, I think content, man, and it's so important, right. 488 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: I think there's a stickiness that's involved with content. There's 489 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: a jail, right that brings your fans closer to your movement. 490 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 5: Not just your music. 491 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because nowadays you have to be more than a rapper. 492 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 5: You have to be more than that to your fans. Sir, 493 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 5: when did you. 494 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: Notice that content and just being more available on socials 495 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: was important to your overall thing? 496 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 5: I know you spoke. 497 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: About honestly, bro, Like, I'm not even trying to sound 498 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: like one of them narcissistic people, you know what I mean, 499 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: that's ahead of himself or be feeling themselves. 500 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: But bruh, I seen where. I seen this in twenty ten. 501 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: Mm. 502 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: I've seen this in twenty ten, like just when cameras 503 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: started getting better on phones, you know what I mean. 504 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: You got to think we used to take a picture 505 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: on the phone and it was blurry. Once we started 506 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: getting them iPhone twos and threes and fours, it was 507 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh damn, you know what I mean. 508 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: Then we got FaceTime, and so they start getting to 509 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: the point where I'm just seeing like, oh, it's gonna 510 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: get to a point to where it's like everybody's gonna 511 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: be their own network, and everybody's gonna be their own CNN. 512 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: Everybody's going to be able to talk to the people 513 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: that relate to them. So I've always seen it from 514 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: a while ago. I would say I started taking it 515 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: like real serious, probably probably around the pandemic. Around the 516 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: pandemic was when I was like, but I was already 517 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: posting things and like doing things and being active, you 518 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and doing podcasts, me and Lewis 519 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: Belt had a podcast in twenty seventeen. 520 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. We were just talking about shit. 521 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: We didn't even have no idea on We just knew 522 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: this where life was going, and we was willing to fail. 523 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: So I was always trying things. 524 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: But twenty twenty was when I started figuring out my 525 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: audience and start cultivating content specifically for my audience. 526 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: Did you panic when those two What was your thoughts, feelings, 527 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: emotions when you had just signed that record deal them 528 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: two songs was not working? 529 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 5: What was the meetings like? What was the atmosphere with 530 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 5: the business? 531 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: Well, the good thing is I'm signed to a label 532 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: that's heavy into investing into the development process of artists. 533 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: So Atlantic is never the label that is going to 534 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: put two three songs out and expect it to be 535 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: a hit. 536 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: And if not, were done. 537 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 5: With you, you. 538 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. So they they though I don't 539 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: know if you can say that for everybody. 540 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 5: Atlantic ain't as patient. 541 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: Again, I believe they've been Swiss army knife because you're 542 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: viewed as a Swiss art. 543 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: I've seen them be patient with other people, not with everybody, 544 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: though I can't speak for everybody. 545 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: I can only speak for you have been. 546 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: So one hundred percent of the people that you've seen, 547 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: they've been patient with. 548 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, this participation from what I've seen. 549 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 5: A man thundering. 550 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 3: This ain't me pandering or nothing. 551 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: I've seen him be patient with people that's literally went 552 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: to the top of the game, came back down and 553 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: went to the top again. I've seen him be patient 554 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: with somebody as far as a Berner boy for six 555 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: years before Afrobeats was even clicking like that. 556 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 5: I didn't even know he was over there for six. 557 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 3: They was there all the way up until last last. 558 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: But I think, and this is a good conversation, I 559 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: think Berner board represents a unique market though so ad 560 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: from a laser. 561 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: Something new that takes time to build out. 562 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. 563 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: But but but just like you saw in twenty ten 564 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: that the phones was gonna affect the way the content 565 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: is going, they're forecasting as well, and so they understand 566 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: that that that worldwide market is developing even without their involvement. 567 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 5: No for sure, right, so burn a boy checks a. 568 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 2: Box for them, no matter if he's profitable in this 569 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: moment or not. 570 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 5: When we deal with rappers, they got a list of rap. 571 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: Niggas yeah, but it's also burn a boy's a risk 572 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: at the time that they signed. 573 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 5: It, depending on the investment. 574 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: What do you mean, I mean, how much of a 575 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: risk if they haven't got no real money tied into it. 576 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: But they put money into it to get it to 577 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: where it's not real. I'm not saying I'm talking about 578 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: saying the looting Grange package that that Kanye be talking about. 579 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: One about the loosen Grains. Yeah, but one of them, 580 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: one of them record label. You know what the package 581 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: is though in the label. 582 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: I know. 583 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: I know. 584 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: Here's what I say, because people be having that whole 585 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: package and button thing miscrew, right, the whole package conversation 586 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: is a lot of that shit really be coming up 587 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: to your internal team and what you and your internal 588 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: team will come up with, meaning like, okay, let's take 589 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: someone like a Travis Scott. He has a Cactus Jack, 590 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: which is a team right right, So I'm pretty sure 591 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: like when you see his color waves for his Jordans, 592 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: his team is him and his team is sitting down 593 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: coming up with these things and then they're going to 594 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: Nike or going to whoever and saying this is what 595 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: we want to do, and then Nike calls their people 596 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: and they help pour gas and lean on the fire 597 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: that they created, you know what I'm saying. So when 598 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: people say the packaging, it's not like a label just 599 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: comes in and gives you your identity. 600 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: Well they well, let's back up, because when we deal 601 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: with when we deal with that perspective, I think that's 602 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: more on the brand side. 603 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 5: So I think we are a little. 604 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: Bit more influential and powerful when it comes to brand 605 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: recognition and what our brain is going to look like. Right, 606 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: But we're talking about the back end. So what I'm 607 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: speaking about when they talk by pressing a button or 608 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: the package, labels have now bought up all. 609 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: Of the digital real estate. 610 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: Right, So when you deal with Apple Music on these 611 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: front pages, some of these playlists, some of these this 612 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: is digital real estate that has been purchased by the labels, 613 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: which means that you can only get on here by 614 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: way of the labels. 615 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: That's not necessarily true. 616 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: Well now not necessarily, but from a market you have 617 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: a point because labels are connected to these services and 618 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: they do. 619 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: They do have slots the same thing as radio, right, 620 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: but your music still gotta be good facts well, because 621 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: they can put you in that slot and people gonna 622 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: click that song, and if people don't rock with it, 623 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: that shit gonna start going like this until it makes 624 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: it out of the playlist in a week. So the 625 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: label could do everything we called Apple Music, you and 626 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: your team still gotta get in that motherfucker, so they 627 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: make something magic for it to stick up there. 628 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: So you don't think that there's a Drake song or 629 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: some of these bigger artists songs like a Gunner song 630 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: or somebody that's a bigger artist that may be in 631 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: a time where it's unfavorable for them, but they're still 632 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: keeping it number one, two, three because they are associated 633 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: with a big label. 634 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, regardless, the song is still good, whether that's 635 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: going on or not. Regardless Gunner, Drake, whoever, gotta be good, 636 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: the music was still good enough for whatever they had 637 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: to do to keep it there. It's been records. I 638 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: didn't watch four or five million dollars going to and 639 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: it ain't work. People did not like it. So you 640 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: can't pay people to like. 641 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 5: Something, right, That's a fact, you know what I mean. 642 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, they gotta like it. 643 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: But once you gunner enough people, right, so once your 644 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: brand becomes as big as a drake, and. 645 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: When you become as big as a drake, now we're 646 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: talking Coca cola. So now you have a you have 647 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: a product that you know why it works. So you 648 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: just consistently create that product and give it to your audience. 649 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 5: Try to tap into it. 650 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: Now you might you might expand and make a vanilla 651 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: coke or cherry coke, you know what I mean. Which 652 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: maybe when we see the boy Drake do a record 653 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: with bad money and he's speaking in Spanish, you know 654 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: what I mean, he might expand to get this market 655 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. 656 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: But the core of what he do right. 657 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 658 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: You know what the core what he doing? 659 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 5: Right? Yeah? Yeah, that makes sense. 660 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: So it's like, regardless if they're gonna put money or not, 661 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: people still gotta like it. 662 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: So do you think that a playlist will give a 663 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: signed artist? So you don't believe there's favoritism? Do you 664 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: believe that's favoritism from a record labels one thousand? 665 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 5: Okay, so that's I think. 666 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So that speaks to there's different packages. 667 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Okay, but let's go and know why there's favoritism. Because 668 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: some artists teams are hard to work with. I've went 669 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: through that at times where I've had a team that 670 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: was hard to work with quote. 671 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 5: Unquote, right now, what does that look like? 672 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 4: What? What meaning? 673 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: Were just not gonna meaning hard to work with? 674 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: Means like in the industry, sometimes we're not just gonna 675 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: take what y'all give. 676 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 5: Us, right, And that's fucked up? Did that mean that? 677 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 4: You know? 678 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: It's it's kind of like that. 679 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: But then you got people who are like that but 680 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know what the fuck they even want, so 681 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: they'll just be an asshole to be an asshole but 682 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: can't even give you. You're creating problems with no suits. 683 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: You're talking, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 684 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: it gets tricky. 685 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: So on the label side, they might be like, all right, 686 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: you don't like what we said. 687 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 5: What you got right, they don't got. 688 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: Y'all come up with a better idea. It's like, if 689 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: you don't like the idea, won't you hire the people 690 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: and get your staff together, and y'all put the idea together, 691 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: and then y'all come to the label and say, hey, 692 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: this is what we want to do because we didn't 693 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: like that last idea. 694 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 5: Y'all came and they're standing on bissiness. 695 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: So it's it's some people that's teams that's hard to 696 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: work with. Some people. Some people don't appreciate what they're in. Meaning, 697 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 1: if I'm getting paid one hundred thousand for a show, 698 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: I bet not be late. Fuck, I better not show 699 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: up with fifty niggas smelling like marijuana and everybody drunk 700 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: and want to fight and sneaking guns in and they 701 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: just these people just paid you one hundred thousand dollars 702 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: to get up here for thirty minutes and wrap some songs. 703 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: I bet not come up in here late. So you 704 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: got people who go through that. You got people who 705 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 1: take big advances from labels, big advances from these festivals, 706 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: big advances from these brands, and go to jail in 707 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: two weeks, so you can't even fulfill your contract and 708 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: you know they ain't giving that back. You got people 709 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: who done got four five million for buyouts for their touring, 710 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: got killed, damn. 711 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 712 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: It's like, So it's sometimes things it's hard to work 713 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: with certain things, So people will say, hey, it's easier 714 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: to work with this person, so I'm gonna put more 715 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: of my energy into this person because I'm not going 716 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 1: through what I'm going through with this person over here 717 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: that may be more talent. 718 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: Makes sense, I mean, but damn yeah, that makes sense. 719 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: Nobody wants conflict, especially constant conflict. 720 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: Come on, especially people that went to school to do 721 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: a job. We're not talking about niggas that come from 722 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: environments like us. 723 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 5: We can squabble, yeah, we're talking. 724 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: About people that solely went to school to be an 725 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: an R or be a marketing person or whatever that 726 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: may be. 727 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 5: You squabbling and that about to beat and can't tell 728 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 5: them what produce. 729 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: Them more on the shop with Come on, come on, 730 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: you can't even give them a video concept and you're 731 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: mad at all the treatments they sent you, you know 732 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's it gets tricky, man. But 733 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: then there's a reverse side to that. Sometimes you'll have 734 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: the artist that's very active and his team is very active, 735 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: and they doing a lot, and they shooting their own 736 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: videos and making their own music, and they bringing it 737 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: to the label, and because the label wasn't involved with everything, 738 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: they may say, oh, we feel you need that one 739 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: more hit, or we feel this can be better, or 740 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: this one can be shot better, or we can do 741 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: this better or whatever, and then they work their way 742 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 1: into the process and sometimes they help it become better. 743 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: But they want to be that's what they're all being about. 744 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. 745 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: The main thing is like to make sure that we 746 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 2: get some points off of it, and to get points 747 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: off of it, you have to be involved in some way. 748 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: Or you I would say more than points. 749 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: I would say the main thing is at least give 750 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: us a chance to try to do our job. 751 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: Right. 752 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: Because if I have a publicist at a label and 753 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: then I go hire a publicist on my own right, 754 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: or if I have a marketing team at the label, 755 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: then I go high or my own marketing team. Essentially 756 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: my publishers and my marketing team is taking their job away. 757 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: So when these things are happening, they can't take the 758 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: credit for it, you know what I mean. So in 759 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: some form of fashion, they're saying, Okay, if you guys 760 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: got that, I might know somebody over here on this end, 761 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: let me help provide whatever this may be, right, you know. 762 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 4: What I mean. 763 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: So, and but that's another thing though, because people like 764 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: us know how to kind of. 765 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 5: Work a room and work the building. 766 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's a skill set to definitely building 767 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 2: to even know how to get next to the people 768 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: that handle me. 769 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: Definitely. I told you some people don't even know the address. 770 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: They don't even know that address business sign. 771 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 5: Some people that signed don't know how to. 772 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: Do because they came in with their homeboy that should 773 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: have left they ass in the car. So now you 774 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: in here loss with a whole bunch of opportunity in 775 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: front of you and don't know what to do with it. 776 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: Should have stayed your ass in the car. So now 777 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: your homidn went up and now you mad at him? 778 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 5: You deal with that? Do you deal with that? 779 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 3: Nigga? What my whole twenty twenty three. 780 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 4: Was that. 781 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 3: Lost three of the closest people to. 782 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: Me, not by death, by envy, damn and miscommunication. The 783 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: motherfucker's not being men literally bro going through it. And 784 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: it's nothing you could do for him. Because you could 785 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: buy a motherfucker house. They gonna say, he ain't get 786 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: the furniture. You could buy him a car. They gonna 787 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: say he ain't feel the tank up because you know why, 788 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 1: it ain't the car of the house. 789 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: They won't. They want your life. 790 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 5: They want your whole position. 791 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: They want your position, and it's nothing you could do 792 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: about that. It's nothing they can do about that. So 793 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: the only thing to do is they in peace. 794 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: But but you know, how do you keep yourself from 795 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 2: engaging with that? Because what we come from it hurts 796 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: so bad. It ignites a reaction. 797 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: You learn as you go. 798 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: So it's like, I mean, new people every day that 799 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: I see traits of my old friends in which teaches 800 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: me how to treat them. So now I know, okay, 801 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: you remind me of such and such. I'm not gonna 802 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: get too close to you. Right, We're gonna be party buddies. Right, 803 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna be watching sports buddies, because if we start 804 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: doing business now, I gotta hold you accountable as my 805 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: business partner, which is gonna fuck up us watching sports together. 806 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: So let's just keep it at that, right, we don't 807 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: even need to get no money together. 808 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: Let's just be homies. 809 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: Because the minute we start getting some money together and 810 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: my cars start looking a little better than yours because 811 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: I didn't ran another play that you ain't think about 812 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: with minds, we're gonna start having some issues. 813 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: So you know what, let's just watch the game together, bro, that's. 814 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 2: But you know, I think what you're describing is is 815 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 2: important because you're still able to separate these things. Yeah, 816 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: you know, that's a that's a skill set as well, 817 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: because on this journey you can get so locked in 818 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: that you blur all this shit. No real, you know 819 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. All this shit is together. I do 820 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 2: business with my friends. These are the niggas I watch 821 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: sports with. 822 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 5: These are the niggas. You know what I'm saying. This becomes. 823 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: But you got to learn that. You don't know that 824 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: until you know that. I didn't just know this. Twenty 825 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: twenty three taught me what I'm telling you right now. 826 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 5: But clearly I know it. 827 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 2: But it's just that I think that the young people 828 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: watching need to understand. 829 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 3: Sure, you know what I'm saying. 830 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: They have to understand how we even get here, right 831 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: because even with me, I'm dealing with a thing where 832 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: I don't want people to think I'm using them, you 833 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 834 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. It's okay to use. 835 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 5: People I know, and that's what people telling me. 836 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 3: It's just not okay to misuse. 837 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: You've been misused, yeah, and so y'all, and so for 838 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: that for that. 839 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 5: It's making me be like, as I'm on this journey. 840 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to do to nobody what's done y'a man. 841 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: Nobody feeling like like little baby and these niggas that 842 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: doesn't really poured into. 843 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 5: Me and help me QCP and these niggas. 844 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: It be on my conscience like Charloatmagne all these guys 845 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: wait be on my conscience to be like, hey, yo, man, 846 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all niggas for real because this shit saved 847 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: my life. I come out to darkness, my nigga. So 848 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying it's something. It's something that's weighing on me. 849 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know. I gotta shake it though. 850 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 851 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: It comes with growth, bro, you growing out of who 852 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: you used to be. Motherfuckers in our environments always tell 853 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: us stay the same, don't never change, stay the same. 854 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: That's because they want you sitting right there with them. 855 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: They old goddamn life. Some people is comfortable with knowing 856 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: they can possibly go to the next level. They don't 857 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: even want to attempt it. They comfortable with just knowing 858 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: I could rapt right, but they don't want to go 859 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: and if I'm met it, see I'm better than it. 860 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: But they don't want to work and prove it. 861 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 5: Come show me. 862 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, some people is just cool with knowing they better, 863 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So we can't fault them. 864 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: We just gotta get away from you know what I mean, 865 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: and understand and find people that's on the journey with you. 866 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: That's like minds that see things that you see it 867 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: that can contribute to what you got going on. 868 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: And that shit, it's some of the hardest. 869 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: Things to do because people people come disguised and skin bro. 870 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 4: Yo, let's take a break from the show. 871 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 2: This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks, the 872 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 2: number one daily fantasy sports app in North America. 873 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I said it, I meant it. 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Sign up right. 892 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 2: Now Prize picks dot com use my code. 893 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 4: Iut p ain't nothing bigger than this airplane. 894 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 5: It's up there. 895 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 4: Let's get back to the show. 896 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't see through you know what's going So 897 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 3: you be you be. 898 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: You didn't hire the cameraman that's really only doing camera 899 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: work because he needs some money right now. But he 900 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: really a rapper. So now you bringing him to the 901 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: studio to do camera work. Now you done brought Buster 902 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 1: Rhymes to the studio and he don't put the camera. 903 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: Guys and all them and he want to play his music. 904 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: He and bust the ear trying to. 905 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 2: Rap and you know what bus to give him a 906 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: level of respect because he's with you, because he with you. 907 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 5: And now you look like you like damn And see 908 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 5: that's my thing. 909 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 2: And I just was telling you about the story with 910 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 2: Wallo up in Philly with my camera guy, and it's 911 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 2: like when they can peep something, It's like, Bro, they 912 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: only got you over here because of. 913 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 3: Me, because of me making me look making me. 914 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: Look wild, and they no home be by itself. He 915 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 2: wanted the realist niggas. Ever, so I got to think, 916 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 2: you want of the realist niggas out, and you ain't 917 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: earnt none of that. They done gave you that. That's 918 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 2: another reason why I don't have a lot of people around, 919 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: because so much come with being next to me. 920 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 5: I'm talking about in the ghetto, man, nigga. 921 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 2: So much come with being under me, my nigga. I'm 922 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 2: talking about these go far being under me. 923 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 5: Niggas. 924 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 2: To take this name right here'll my nigga be all 925 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: in the ghetto doing shit, owing niggas money in it, 926 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 2: be a you know, running a monk. 927 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 5: So it's so important to preserve this shit, you know. 928 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: And that's that's another dipist be like man, it's so 929 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: it's rough man this shit gets so fucking rough on me. 930 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 3: It's hard, bro, this shit gets rough. 931 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: It's tough, and it's it's fucked up because and I 932 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 1: always say this people probably heard me say this before, 933 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: but it's like when you dream, you dream with certain 934 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: people in mind, Like you see your friends there, like 935 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: you see the house you want for your mom and 936 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: all these things, and then when you start seeing, oh, 937 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: it's not gonna go that way with certain people, it's 938 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: the most hurtful thing, especially when it's about nothing but 939 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: envy or jealousy. 940 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 5: So what what I mean? 941 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 2: What are people approaching you with unrealistic requests or what 942 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 2: what's causing the RIfS? 943 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 5: Do they think you have what you don't have? 944 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 1: Not only that that was a problem in the beginning. 945 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: I used to deal with that a lot of like 946 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: people thinking I got way more money than I actually had. 947 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 3: I used to deal with that a lot. Yes, what 948 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 3: it is. 949 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: Well, now I'm kind of cool because I didn't eliminated 950 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: a lot of that shit out of my life. And 951 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 1: I don't even like entertain it no more. Like even 952 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: the people that we still cool through, I don't even 953 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: talk to them about them people no more. You know 954 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so it is what it is. Yeah, 955 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: So I think what it is is expectations. I think 956 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: people have these hitting expectations in their mind of what 957 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: they thought you were going to do for them, or 958 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: what they wanted you to do for them. 959 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: And when you didn't do what they. 960 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: Wanted you to do, and you put them in a 961 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: position to work for what you for what they wanted, 962 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: it get tough. So it's like I had a homie 963 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: who got offered a job at a big label and 964 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: turned it down and told told the label I got 965 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: to be with them. What a homeie front of streets, 966 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: a nigga come from nothing. Person liked him at the 967 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: label Boooo, Man, we're gonna give you a job sixth 968 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: grand a month, and turned it down. You ain't even 969 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: come in two three times a week, boom boom. Find 970 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 1: this new talent, bring it in, boom boom. I gotta 971 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: be with him. Why I wish he was here to 972 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: ask them right? And the cold part about it, don't 973 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: even tell me. I found out from the person who 974 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: ended up getting the job that it was offered to 975 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: my homie. 976 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 3: He didn't even tell me. 977 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: That's how fucked up the shit get so it started 978 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: making you realize, Oh, you don't want to You don't 979 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: want to work for nothing. You want to be paid 980 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: to be a homeboy. You want me to pay you 981 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: to be a friend. You want me to pay you 982 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: to drive my car. Okay, I see what's going on. 983 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 5: And that's that's a level of disrespect. 984 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 3: Go on tour. Two weeks later at bro, I got 985 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 3: a job for you. 986 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 4: Bro. 987 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: They gonna pay you three grand a week for the 988 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: next twelve weeks. Be at the airport tomorrow eight a m. 989 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: Missed the flight. 990 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 5: Yeah nah, it's over with. 991 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 3: I called him. 992 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: Hey, bruh, misus fight book him another one. They booked 993 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: him at ten thirty. Missed the flight. 994 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,439 Speaker 5: This can't be real. 995 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 3: Swear to God on my child. 996 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 5: Yeah nah, it's on my child. Nah man nah. 997 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: And then it's and then it's niggas get back to 998 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: the neighborhood and they find the first ear that to listen. Oh, bruh, 999 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: ain't do this, brain't do that. No, nigga, what didn't 1000 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: you do right? Tell him niggas how you fucked up right? 1001 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: Tell him niggas what you wasn't doing. Tell him, niggas 1002 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: what you wasn't learning tell them how you was around 1003 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: all these millionaires and whatnot, asking questions you was on FanDuel. 1004 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 3: Tell him that ain't gonna tell him that, right. 1005 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 2: The truth don't don't fit the narrative though, And see 1006 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 2: I went through it the other day. I have received 1007 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 2: a phone call and this is, you know, little shrimp guys. 1008 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,959 Speaker 2: You know these are little shrimps in the neighborhood. And uh, 1009 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 2: you know, yo, man, I think I'm hearing such and 1010 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 2: such saying such and such. You know when I see him, 1011 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 2: it's such and such. I said, say why saying what 1012 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 2: about who? And my thing is, don't nobody say nothing 1013 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 2: to me? That's the man shit I'm talking about. Right, 1014 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 2: if we me and home, if I got a problem 1015 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 2: with anybody, I'm gonna say it to them. But they 1016 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: know it's bitch made problems. They know it's it's woman shit. 1017 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 4: They know. 1018 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 2: And that's how I'm matreated because I don't sugarcoat nothing. 1019 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell you when you come at me 1020 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 2: about something that you entitled man, get out my face 1021 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 2: with that intil and now you really mad. But I 1022 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: want you to hurry up and get mad so we 1023 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: can gonna get to where you're gonna get to come on, 1024 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 2: because this is inevitable coming from It's in you, niggas, 1025 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 2: It's in you. 1026 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we just working on trying to move around 1027 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 5: it and shake it. 1028 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: And we're trying to keep it because it's like, you 1029 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: got genuine love for certain people and we want them 1030 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: to be there. You want to You don't want to 1031 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: see your homies five years later in the same place 1032 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: y'all started at, You know what I mean, The whole 1033 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: reason we started this thing was for everybody to get 1034 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: some money, everybody to be successful in us, to have 1035 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: something to do outside of doing shit that's illegal, you 1036 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 1037 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 3: This is what we was doing. 1038 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: So if you fall under that role, and you fall 1039 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: under that role, right, and you want to do this 1040 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: and you want to do that, why not put that 1041 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: same energy into doing that as you put into going 1042 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: to kill a nigga, Right as you put into going 1043 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: to rob a nigga. Are you put them going to 1044 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: get on to take a trick? That's the same energy 1045 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: gonna bring you that same amount of money, if not more, right, 1046 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: But because it's unfamiliar for you and you insecure about 1047 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: moving around in it, because it's new, you run away 1048 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: from it. Are you gonna lean on the homie to 1049 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: teach you everything when he's still learning? So it be 1050 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: feeling like sometimes, Bro is black men, we don't even 1051 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: get enough time to dream. 1052 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 2: Sometimes though, being that nigga paralyzes you because when not 1053 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 2: only do you become everybody else's trampo lean, it also can. 1054 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 5: Paralyze you in a way where you don't want to. 1055 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 2: Move out of that familiar spot because I'm that nigga 1056 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 2: right here. When I get over there and I start 1057 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 2: rapping ken, now, I gotta fall up under the nigga 1058 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 2: I thought was a little homie. It didn't go to 1059 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: the penitentiary like I did. You see what I'm saying, 1060 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 2: And so it becomes an ego thing. And only because 1061 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 2: you made it to that nigga, is you have that 1062 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,919 Speaker 2: viewpoint because I come in the game like this, set 1063 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 2: my own shit up. 1064 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: Man, niggas used to come to me. Bro, Bro, we 1065 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: gotta go do this in the hood. We gotta do 1066 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: this for the hood. We gotta go do this now. 1067 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm all about giving back, you know what I'm saying. 1068 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: Toys drives and Thanksgiving and we're gonna do that helping 1069 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: one of my boys who passed away, I help his 1070 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: girl with you know a lot of things. I'm all 1071 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: about giving back. I'm not about giving back the flex 1072 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: on niggas. 1073 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 5: Facts. 1074 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: See, niggas want you to go do some shit to 1075 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: flex on niggas because they feel bad about all the 1076 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: wrong shit they ha donet done the people in the hood. 1077 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: So now they want to come back and stand on 1078 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: top of my bad bro. But here goes something from 1079 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: my apologies. So you could look like the nigga. I 1080 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: ain't for that right because I ain't tell you to 1081 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: go shoot old buddy. I ain't tell you to go 1082 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: rob mss Jenkins. Y'all went and did that shit. I 1083 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: was in the studio. 1084 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 5: Y'all burnt the hood. 1085 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 3: That's what y'all. 1086 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: Wanted to go do. So y'all go fix that. I 1087 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with that. 1088 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 2: Now, did any street niggas invest in you, because that's 1089 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 2: where but see, but them niggas is the ones. 1090 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: But that's the main nigga I'm still cool with to 1091 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: this day, to this day. And what's crazy is he 1092 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: ain't even from my hometown. He from a whole nother 1093 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: part of the world. 1094 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 5: That's how. 1095 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: And even when I got my first deal, I tried 1096 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,359 Speaker 1: to give him what he gave me back. 1097 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 3: He said, bro get right first. I got faith in you. 1098 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: He said, this ain't gonna be the only time you 1099 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: get some money that get right first and get me 1100 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: right later. Once I got the movie, Thank you, Broh. 1101 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 1: To this day, we just went to super Bowl together 1102 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: in Vegas. 1103 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1104 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to go watch his son play basketball in 1105 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta May, first week of May. 1106 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 3: It's my dog to this day. 1107 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 5: So he but he got them calls he can put 1108 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 5: in for sure. 1109 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1110 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 2: And that's the thing, right, It's like somebody told me. 1111 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 2: It's somebody said this to me, and it was a 1112 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 2: hell of a point. Says whatever I give it. 1113 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 3: He invested in the niggas I'm telling you about. 1114 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 5: That that ain't picking up the money and shit. 1115 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 3: And they act like our own something. He put money 1116 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 3: in their. 1117 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 2: Pocket and they put around me comfortably and not a 1118 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 2: bird and switch. 1119 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 3: They m. 1120 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: To the point it got me and Bru mad at 1121 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: each other for a few weeks and I'm like, no, 1122 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: we gotta talk about this. 1123 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 3: Because y'all the. 1124 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 1: Ones that's wrong, right, not him right, But I'm trying 1125 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: to cause y'all the homieson. I introduced y'all to him. 1126 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: It ain't even worth that. I should have never let 1127 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: y'all meet. 1128 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 2: But see, that introduction is a bad motherfucker too, and 1129 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 2: you've got to guard that introduction. 1130 00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 5: Got to and people. 1131 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,240 Speaker 2: That's that's how I was choking room relationship because nigga, 1132 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 2: run up on your man. 1133 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 5: Hey man, introduce me to sudden ship. I can't just 1134 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 5: do that. Family. I don't even know what you. 1135 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 3: I don't even know. 1136 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,439 Speaker 5: I barely know, old body. Nigga. Hell is you telling 1137 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 5: me to introduce you to. 1138 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 3: Come on that? 1139 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 2: And then you mad at me because I won't do that. 1140 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 2: Come on, you see what I'm saying. And so I 1141 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 2: want the young boys to know, head down towards the 1142 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 2: hustle man, block out that other shit out. 1143 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Do you know are you 1144 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 5: familiar with the TikTok band that's going on? 1145 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1146 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 5: Man, what's your thoughts on it? What's your take on that? Man? 1147 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 3: I'm kind of up and down with it. I feel like. 1148 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,760 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, TikTok started off as musically, 1149 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: it was an app called musically, and from what I 1150 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 1: was told, and anybody in the comments, y'all can correct 1151 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, because this is some information I 1152 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 1: was told. I was told that when TikTok I get 1153 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: their initial deal, their licensing deals to get music on 1154 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: the platform, they only spent ten million dollars, all right, 1155 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: So they was able to use all of that music 1156 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: for ten million bucks. From what I was told, right, 1157 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 1: that's a low number. It's a low number when you 1158 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: start pulling in billions. So now their labels is like, hey, 1159 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, we let you all do 1160 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: that for ten Like, let's work something out where we 1161 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: all could you know what I mean, benefit off this. 1162 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 3: TikTok is the label telling you that. No, this is 1163 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 3: my observation. 1164 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: But people I've talked to outside of the label, right, 1165 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: people in the tech world, different. 1166 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 2: Rights, right, right, So so when you deal with I 1167 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 2: just have a hard time believing the label won't have 1168 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 2: them amend that at some point, and I think they 1169 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,399 Speaker 2: have amended it several times. 1170 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 3: To tell you. 1171 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 1: The problem, it's what I was about to get to, 1172 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 1: the problem is when they've the platform has used music 1173 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: so long. Now you got everybody on the platform. So 1174 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: TikTok is like we got the creators. Y'all can have 1175 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: the music because the creators will create new music on 1176 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: this platform. 1177 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 5: Right, But here's the labels. 1178 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 2: So I want to be what I believe this happened 1179 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 2: that there is the labels are having a conversation about TikTok. 1180 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 3: I don't even think it's the labels. 1181 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 2: I think the government, right, But I'm saying just from 1182 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 2: a music standpoint, the government too. We're gonna get to that, 1183 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 2: but from a music standpoint. Inside those buildings, there's a 1184 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 2: conversation about the app TikTok because it became a discovery 1185 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 2: platform for music. Like you're saying, like a lot of 1186 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 2: people got their motion from TikTok's lit their singles up. 1187 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 3: But music ain't the only thing that TikTok discovery. 1188 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 2: Right, But from a label stand right now, but we're 1189 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 2: gonna talk about it generally, but right I'm trying to 1190 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 2: deal with the label perspective. 1191 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,959 Speaker 5: And the reason being is because when the music. 1192 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 2: Was pulled off of TikTok, you saw the narratives from 1193 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 2: both sides approached the social media platforms, which was the 1194 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: label saying, yo, they don't want to up the annie 1195 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 2: and pay us what we feel it's worth, and TikTok 1196 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 2: is saying they just robbed the creators. We're sending them 1197 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 2: money for this shit every single month. So the narratives 1198 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 2: took place. I'm wondering what rappers are feeling about that 1199 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 2: ecosystem of TikTok. Have you ever felt a spike in 1200 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 2: your business because of TikTok? 1201 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: Me, personally, no, because I never was big on TikTok. 1202 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: I never like fully got into TikTok, like I tried 1203 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: to do it for like ninety. 1204 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 3: Days, and it just it wouldn't work. It just wouldn't. 1205 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't my I don't know, I just didn't connect 1206 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 1: to the platform right. Instagram is where a lot of 1207 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: my audience lives, and a lot of my audience is older. 1208 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of older people on TikTok, but a 1209 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: lot of them are able to find me easier on Instagram. 1210 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 1: So I've always been on Instagram. So for me, I 1211 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: haven't felt anything from it, you know what I mean. 1212 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure for content creators and independent artists 1213 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: who make a lot of money off their music on TikTok, 1214 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. 1215 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 2: Dann just it'll get it acts as a as a highway. 1216 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 2: People discover fifteen seconds of a song on TikTok. Next 1217 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 2: thing you know, it's clamming the apple to sure you see. 1218 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 2: And so this is affecting the ecosystem. And the reason 1219 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 2: I know that the labels are having conversation about it 1220 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 2: is because what Caller Ray said. She came out and 1221 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 2: tweeted that, and I don't want to quote it, but 1222 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 2: whatever the quote is, I'm having on the screen. 1223 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 5: But it sounded like label jargon. 1224 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 2: It was something to the effect of and for me, 1225 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 2: for her, it is she's gonna feel TikTok missing because 1226 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 2: every single one of her songs that did what it did, 1227 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 2: it was by way TikTok. It went crazy every time. 1228 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 1: But here's the thing with somebody like her, and you're 1229 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent correct if we're talking about someone who solely 1230 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: was only focusing on that platform. Coy is and like movies, 1231 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: now you know what I mean commercial music, though yes 1232 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: it might not have her music, but she's so big 1233 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: of a star that is like she can do other 1234 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: things and find other ways to help the music, but she. 1235 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,439 Speaker 5: Has to connect. You can't. 1236 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 2: You can't because earlier you said the music has to connect. 1237 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm just saying she can find other ways to promote 1238 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 1: the music. Meaning if she's in a movie, she might 1239 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: be doing the whole soundtrack of that movie and they 1240 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: might attached the marketing with that. 1241 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 1242 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 2: That that organic dance she would do on TikTok, she 1243 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: would come up with a. 1244 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 3: Little she might take it on snapchat. 1245 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 2: Now, right, but that audience is on TikTok. She built 1246 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 2: it on tick. 1247 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: But when you're that big, sometimes you can move your 1248 01:00:58,880 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: audience with you. 1249 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 5: And it's hard to move hard. 1250 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 3: It's hard hard, and nobody saying it's gonna be easy. 1251 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 1: But when I'm just body or that caliber, you can 1252 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of move your audience to different platforms. 1253 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just wondering, you know, the conversation from 1254 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 2: a business standpoint, because I'm one hundred percent sure that 1255 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 2: that has to be mentioned in a meeting somewhere, especially 1256 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 2: for artists like her in particular, because again, every single 1257 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 2: one of them songs did something on TikTok that it 1258 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 2: just wouldn't have been discovered on these other platforms in 1259 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 2: the same fast. For sure, they dance, they they create 1260 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 2: on TikTok in a totally different way for sure. You know, 1261 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 2: rap still has a traditional feel on Instagram as well 1262 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 2: as TikTok, but there's a new thing with TikTok creation. 1263 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 2: Something's happening, you know what I'm saying, not even high production. 1264 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 2: We're talking phone up, put it back now? 1265 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 4: Do you know? One? Two? 1266 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 5: Like this here? You know what I'm saying, and it's gonna. 1267 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 3: Talk is Oh. 1268 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: It felt like Instagram became the I think I'm cool crowd, 1269 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: and TikTok became that we don't give it for the 1270 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 1: doing what. 1271 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 3: We want to do. Like they really the cool ones, right, 1272 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 1273 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: Like they really doing what they want to do from 1274 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 1: where they Resa Tisa, you know what I'm saying, Like 1275 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: she just got a whole deal bro from sitting in 1276 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 1: the car talking about a nigga blying to her. 1277 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,439 Speaker 5: Do you believe that? 1278 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 3: I don't know because I know men that's ben't done that. 1279 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 5: But how you remember it's. 1280 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: The details and just so much to it is just 1281 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: what's kind of like, damn it exaggerated? What But I 1282 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: believe the majority of hell of detail though I believe 1283 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: majority of it, Though I. 1284 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 5: Believe it too, though I believe I believe that dude 1285 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 5: is is. 1286 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like things like things like that are 1287 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: happening now to the point where I seen that three 1288 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago. 1289 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 3: Yesterday, I'm on Hulu. She's on Hulu now. 1290 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nah, she bid you know what I mean, to 1291 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 2: move her audience to another platform. Guess why TikTok they 1292 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 2: she got a hundred million views. She waiting on their 1293 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 2: check to come. They hit demonetized. Sure they kept the money. 1294 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 3: They just did it be Soldier boy. 1295 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 2: See, people need to understand. Damn, people need to understand. 1296 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 2: Demonetized don't mean ain't no money being made. It means 1297 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 2: that you ain't. 1298 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 3: Ain't making the money. They keeping all of them. 1299 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still money flowing for this content, but you 1300 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 2: ain't made it because what I'm doing is I'm whooping you. 1301 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying, don't make this kind of content, even though 1302 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep this little money that we done made 1303 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,439 Speaker 2: out fats, But don't don't don't do this kind of thing. 1304 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 2: You said they just did it for Soldier. 1305 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: Well, how much Ojia Boy was on a live I 1306 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: think he ran up like thirty five thousand and like 1307 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: a few hours like an hour or something, and they 1308 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: they cut it. 1309 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, they cut it. 1310 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Like literally like, oh, they can't regulate it, man, they're 1311 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna find something wrong with. 1312 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 5: It now from a government. 1313 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 2: From from a government standpoint of TikTok, it's really a 1314 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: Chinese own company and they have they have a situation 1315 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 2: with the with the federal government where they're trying to 1316 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 2: ban it. Like you say, it's a discovery platform. I've 1317 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 2: learned things about things I didn't know on T two 1318 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 2: like that. 1319 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:25,919 Speaker 5: I don't. 1320 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen on these other platforms the same. 1321 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 2: And this is what people don't understand. Although they ran 1322 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 2: by China, they're they're literally whooping everybody's ass as it 1323 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 2: comes as it pertains to just algorithm and just the 1324 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 2: whole on beyond, they're whooping ass. 1325 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 3: For sure, they're more creative. The platform is more creative. 1326 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 1: Sure, since as far as the government side, I don't 1327 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 1: really know too much on what the government's issue is. 1328 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,600 Speaker 3: I just noticed the issue. 1329 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 2: The issue is that they're swaying opinions. So what what 1330 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 2: they feel like is again the discovery part of it. 1331 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 2: They reckonze how big of a discovery site this has become. 1332 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 2: And so what happens is say that they want to 1333 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 2: shift the narrative for this upcoming election. They start letting 1334 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 2: being seen things that's making you go away from you 1335 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 2: the government and really go towards hating the government. And 1336 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 2: it's creeping in algorithm some kind of way, you know 1337 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So that's what they're really concerned with, 1338 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 2: the ability to sway opinions. And it comes from the 1339 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 2: Chinese government, which now we're dealing with world politics and 1340 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,439 Speaker 2: people want to run the world. And so if they're 1341 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 2: saying Chinese in one hundred years of looking to run 1342 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 2: the world, we're giving them my kids with TikTok, and 1343 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 2: you're telling me that at any moment they can hit 1344 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 2: buttons and kind of sway away. 1345 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 5: Our kids are seeing the way we. 1346 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 2: Interact with the rules, the way we interact with our government, 1347 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 2: who's our president, the whole structure. So that's the issue, 1348 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 2: and they're living there now. A lot of companies in 1349 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 2: America are putting in bids to try to say, hey, 1350 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 2: we'll buy ticks Talk or we'll own part of it 1351 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 2: and store the data on American soil. So of course 1352 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 2: we're still collecting data in the same way, but Chinese 1353 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 2: don't have access to it. Here's the data that're collecting 1354 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 2: right now. In the terms and service agreement of TikTok. 1355 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 2: They're doing facial recognition. There's no nothing you can really 1356 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 2: do with facial recognition on TikTok. But these are things 1357 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 2: they're putting. 1358 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 5: In that back pocket. And there's a governmental standpoint. 1359 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 2: You sent down it don't mean nothing now, but in 1360 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 2: forty years, what does that mean? 1361 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 5: And they got all our. 1362 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 2: Children data exactly, and so they fight. That's what the 1363 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 2: governmental standpoint of you know of it is. And so 1364 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 2: they're fighting with that in the Chinese government saying we 1365 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 2: ain't bothering it, we ain't doing nothing to it, We're 1366 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 2: trying to help people make money. 1367 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 5: We ain't gonna do that. 1368 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 2: And so what you also have to understand is that 1369 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 2: every company in China is. 1370 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 5: Withholded to the. 1371 01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 2: Chinese government, even though you operate under your own business, 1372 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 2: if they step in, you must do what they say do. 1373 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 5: And that's another problem. 1374 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 2: So not only is TikTok owned by Badinance, which is 1375 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 2: a Chinese company, a Chinese company is they have to 1376 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 2: do what the Chinese government say. They have no dog 1377 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 2: in the fight you have, you can't say no, and 1378 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 2: so the US just had some concern with that. 1379 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 5: That's a problem, makes sense? 1380 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 3: What sense? 1381 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 5: What you think about this ditty situation? 1382 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 4: Man? 1383 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 5: What's your thoughts on that? 1384 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 3: Man? 1385 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: It's it's tricky for me. Man, I personally know Puff 1386 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: and I've worked with Puff. 1387 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 3: You No, I don't got a bag will revote befo. 1388 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the conversation is the conversation, man, Like I 1389 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 2: got a little for at the Tavio. 1390 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 3: Ak, now here's my thing. Right, Let's say me and 1391 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 3: you kick it today. 1392 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 5: And yeah, cause you done been to some of them parties. 1393 01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Let's say me and 1394 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 1: you kick it. Let's say we kick it tomorrow. Right, 1395 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: we all moving around, we back at the studio at 1396 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 1: the end of the week or whatever it may be. 1397 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: And then in a month it comes out, Nigga, you 1398 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: a mass murderer. You know what I'm saying. It's like, 1399 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't really know that side of you, So I 1400 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how to judge it or 1401 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: have an opinion on it because every time I've been 1402 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 1: around bro and kicked it, it's just been it's been cool. 1403 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like we working on music, 1404 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: we eating good food, like niggas having a good time. 1405 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 1: Of course there's women around like like any party, you 1406 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And at the end of the night, 1407 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 1: niggas is going back to their hotel rooms or going 1408 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: to do what they do. I ain't never personally like 1409 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 1: experience the quote unquote freak off everybody talking about I 1410 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: ain't never seen it, so I don't know how to 1411 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,639 Speaker 1: have an opinion on it, right. 1412 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,719 Speaker 2: See, that's what But they're saying that. That's what people 1413 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 2: are not saying what you're saying. That's saying that people 1414 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 2: who have been in these parties, in these diggy parties, 1415 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 2: are not saying that. 1416 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 5: Yo, that ain't what's happening. I haven't saw that happen. Y. 1417 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you the god honest truth on my child, Bro, 1418 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 1: I didn't been in the puff House in La recorded. 1419 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,639 Speaker 5: Have you been in the rooms where he's told everybody 1420 01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 5: to leave? 1421 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 3: We've never told nobody that. 1422 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 5: I didn't heard the baby say that though. 1423 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 1: I didn't walk the puff House in Miami with two 1424 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 1: of my homies from the hood. 1425 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 4: Bro. 1426 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Art Badsle weekend two of my homies 1427 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 1: from the hood a year ago. Puff hit me, Bro, 1428 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 1: I'm over here working on this song. King God really 1429 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: appreciate if you can come over here help us fuck 1430 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 1: with a few lyrics. 1431 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 3: I get there. 1432 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 1: It's me king Low's Puff the homies, Nigga. We in 1433 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 1: there rapping right. I'm asking I'm asking Puff, Like, Bro, 1434 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 1: who you think the most talented motherfucker you ever worked with? 1435 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,799 Speaker 1: He said, Mary J. Like these the conversations, you haven't 1436 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 1: you feel me? I'm asking him, like when you hear production, 1437 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: what you hear? He ain't never told me like come 1438 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 1: back here to this room or you know what I'm saying, 1439 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 1: I ain't never experienced that, So I don't I don't 1440 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 1: know how to judge it. I don't know what to 1441 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 1: say about it because it's like every time I've been 1442 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 1: around Bro, it's been about work. It's been about getting 1443 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 1: to some money. It ain't it ain't never been about that. 1444 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 2: And we and and you know we're trying. I have 1445 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 2: grace for him, man. 1446 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 3: I think now I'm not saying that ship didn't happen. 1447 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying I. 1448 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 5: Don't know right right right, right, right right. 1449 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 3: I ain't never been to have been. 1450 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 5: You have been to some of. 1451 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 2: The party, but that but but are you aware that 1452 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 2: they are different levels of a puff party. 1453 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 3: I'm sure it is. What I'm saying is whatever that. 1454 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,719 Speaker 5: Level is, the social media ship you see this. 1455 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 1: I ain't never made it to that level, bro, that's 1456 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,599 Speaker 1: on my son. I ain't and I never heard of it. 1457 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: I've heard people say things, you know what I'm saying, like. 1458 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 3: Brother, fuck with old girl. 1459 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, oh girl famous, she 1460 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 1: got a career, whatever that may be. 1461 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 3: I ain't never. 1462 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 5: Heard the weirdo shit kids, you. 1463 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 1464 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 1: I ain't never heard that, Like I didn't kicked it 1465 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 1: with just with you know what I'm saying, Like, we 1466 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,759 Speaker 1: didn't kicked it in spots, bro, like real life chilling. 1467 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,719 Speaker 1: I ain't never seen nothing like that. So I don't 1468 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: know how to judge it now. If it's true, that's 1469 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,839 Speaker 1: some foul lass shit facts. He was a foul person. 1470 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 1: But me personally, I've never seen that side of that 1471 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: person anytime I've been around that person. 1472 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm interested in in understanding or studying media's role in 1473 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 2: Diddy's persona changing, like the way people view him, Like. 1474 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're gonna talk about that, you gotta 1475 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,680 Speaker 1: go down a rabbit hole of Bill Cosby and yeah, 1476 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: you know what I. 1477 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,679 Speaker 5: Mean, Tupacs it get deep now. 1478 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 3: You know it's that's a whole nother conversation. 1479 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 2: But then even even if we niche it down right 1480 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 2: like because mainstream media can't come up with the freak 1481 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 2: off and the freak o, these are Twitter nigga culture ship. 1482 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,679 Speaker 1: I agree, this is culture tearing at a nigga ass. 1483 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, that's what I'm saying. Like, if 1484 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,680 Speaker 1: it's a such thing as a freak off, what I'm 1485 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: telling you is my nigga and my son. I ain't 1486 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,479 Speaker 1: never been invited or heard that term in my circle 1487 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 1: of friends in the industry. I ain't never heard that 1488 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 1: because and I probably ain't big enough to hear that 1489 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: term yet. 1490 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, that's. 1491 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 5: Probably these blog niggas here in the term. 1492 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is is hearing the term now because 1493 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 3: it's public, right. 1494 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 2: We made it public. I don't know, That's what I'm saying. 1495 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 2: Don't nobody know what we know? What made it public? 1496 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 5: No, no, no, I ain't talking about the allegations. What 1497 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 5: made it public. I'm talking about that term. 1498 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 1: What made what made that term public was, if I'm 1499 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 1: not mistaken, the Cassie thing, because it was in the 1500 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,560 Speaker 1: court files. 1501 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:25,879 Speaker 5: And she even called. 1502 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 3: In the paperwork. 1503 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,360 Speaker 1: She said I had to participate in what he would 1504 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: call freak offs. 1505 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 3: That's what made it public. Dangn So until then, I 1506 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:37,920 Speaker 3: ain't never heard of the ship, bro. 1507 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 2: She puts so much weight on it. She she the 1508 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 2: one to put the weight on it. Without her, None 1509 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,519 Speaker 2: of this is what it looks like. It doesn't look 1510 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 2: the same. She got an extensive relationship and she makes 1511 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 2: it look man. 1512 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, Bro, I don't know. Like I pray 1513 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 1: for everybody involved, you know what I'm saying. I pray 1514 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 1: for man, But it's like shit, I can't speak on him, man, 1515 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 1: because I don't know. If I swear to God, my nigga, 1516 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 1: if I ever seen was around puff do some weird shit, 1517 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 1: I would leave it on my child. I will tell 1518 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,000 Speaker 1: you right now, Brody's seen that nigga do some foul shit, right. 1519 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: I never seen it, bro, or my mama, I've never 1520 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:19,560 Speaker 1: seen it. 1521 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,639 Speaker 5: Do you think that. 1522 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 2: Where all his industry buddies, at all the people that 1523 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 2: made money with him, made music with him. 1524 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, are them his buddies or his business partners? 1525 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 1: Everybody ain't your friend and this shit niggas just because 1526 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 1: you get money with a nigga on me, nigg frid, 1527 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 1: I get money with a lot of niggas. It ain't 1528 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:39,559 Speaker 1: my friends in his business. 1529 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,280 Speaker 5: But did it was position? 1530 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 2: He's a powerful guy, so they a lot of people 1531 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 2: position theirself to him as friends. 1532 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like it ain't it ain't their job 1533 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,640 Speaker 1: to say something like, well, like what they supposed to 1534 01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 1: say when you got all these wild alect Nothing they 1535 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: say is gonna change what the fuck is going on. 1536 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Jay Z or Beyonce, whoever could come off tomorrow and say, 1537 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 1: I stand with Sean Conch like whoever future could come 1538 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: out tomorrow. It's not gonna change what's been said and 1539 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 1: what's going on. So it's like whether somebody say something 1540 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 1: or not, what does it change. 1541 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,120 Speaker 2: That's what Fit is basically saying that Jay is like 1542 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,599 Speaker 2: disissodia just like because I mean, we all black dog 1543 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 2: and you will see these dudes take pictures together. These 1544 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 2: are the billionaire class of gods. 1545 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,759 Speaker 1: But we may be talking about a rock Nation brunch 1546 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 1: from six years ago. We don't know if Diddy and 1547 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 1: Jay took a picture in the last when the last 1548 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 1: time we seen them together. 1549 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 3: We don't know that we be going. 1550 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 1: Off shit we seen off social media that's ten years 1551 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,840 Speaker 1: old and twenty years old. We don't know if they 1552 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: dine kicked it in the last five year. They probably 1553 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,760 Speaker 1: fell out or we don't know, right, We don't know. 1554 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 2: So for me, then some people don't stand by this 1555 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,759 Speaker 2: kind of shit in the street, like certain ship for real, 1556 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 2: certain ship. 1557 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 5: You can't stand by that. 1558 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 3: Ship with environments we come up from it. For niggas 1559 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,759 Speaker 3: fucking with children doing some nigga, get the fuck away 1560 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 3: from me. We're finna beat your ass, nigga, you. 1561 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 5: Can't stand by that. 1562 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 3: We don't play that ship, you know what I'm saying. 1563 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 1: So, if I'm not gonna fuck with you on a 1564 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 1: personal level on the streets, why would I publicly voice 1565 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: I don't fuck with you if I don't. 1566 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,799 Speaker 2: Right, And then, like you said, for people on social 1567 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,559 Speaker 2: media and things that's looking for jay Z and these guys, 1568 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 2: how do we even know they really have their relationship. 1569 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 2: It could be happening all these guys. We don't know 1570 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,960 Speaker 2: forever every time we see them together. It's a war 1571 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 2: show type dinner and they. 1572 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:49,519 Speaker 3: Called we can interact the game every week JB with Emery. 1573 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 2: Still ain't a company together, you know what I'm saying. 1574 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 2: Ain't seen them facts. 1575 01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 3: We ain't see none of that. 1576 01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 1: So it's like, we can't just expect somebody to say 1577 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,479 Speaker 1: something because you didn't done business or done a song 1578 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,680 Speaker 1: with somebody. 1579 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 3: Before, you know what I'm saying. Like, especially, it's tough. 1580 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 2: What about the people that worked for him though they 1581 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 2: do you think they owe him that? 1582 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 1: I think it depends because everybody experience is different. Like 1583 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, my experience is my experience. It may be 1584 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 1: somebody who worked for that nigga who experienced a traumatic thing, 1585 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They probably could have said 1586 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: he was a mean boss. It could have been some 1587 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 1: people that said Nigga changed my life. I got loved 1588 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 1: for him forever, you know what I mean. 1589 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 3: So it's like, do. 1590 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,680 Speaker 2: You think that this super that having love for nick 1591 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,799 Speaker 2: can supersede See again, I think. 1592 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 1: It depends on the detriment of the situation, because I 1593 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,560 Speaker 1: could love a motherfucker to the end, But if you 1594 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 1: fucking with kids, dog. 1595 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 4: Or if you. 1596 01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,799 Speaker 1: It's that, you know what I'm saying, If you're forcing 1597 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 1: women to do that, I can't fuck with right. 1598 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 2: On no level, no level, And I want to be 1599 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 2: loud about that. I can't fuck with anybody. 1600 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:09,680 Speaker 3: Feel me. 1601 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 1: If somebody asks me, I'll give my opinion now, don't 1602 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,080 Speaker 1: fuck with dude. But I'm not just gonna pick up 1603 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 1: my phone and tell the whole world I don't fuck 1604 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,440 Speaker 1: with that nigga because for what right. 1605 01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 3: Don't nobody care. 1606 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 1: Don't nobody care if you fuck with this nigga or 1607 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: not for these twenty four hours tomorrow Nigga the Future 1608 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 1: and then Drake that made a new song together and 1609 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:36,559 Speaker 1: they back cool. 1610 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 3: Don't nobody care no more? Right, you know what I'm saying. 1611 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 1: Or Nigga Kanye and dropped the new boot Nigga that's 1612 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 1: going viral, right, don'tbody care no more? 1613 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 4: So? 1614 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,439 Speaker 1: It's like, if I don't fuck with you, don't fuck 1615 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 1: with you. I know that, and you know that if 1616 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,120 Speaker 1: the world asks. 1617 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 3: Me, I'll let them know. Other than that, I'm not gonna. 1618 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 1: Need to pick up my phone and tell the world 1619 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't fuck with this nigga. 1620 01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 2: You know, let's talk about YouTube involvement or black media's 1621 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 2: that niche of like the messy YouTube shit right. They 1622 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 2: live in a spot where I think that these titles 1623 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 2: of videos and these content creators can really fuel the investigation. 1624 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 5: Thanks for watching this clip from Its Up There podcast. 1625 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 5: To see the rest of the interview, click one of 1626 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 5: the boxes on the screen. Also join Discord and Patreon 1627 01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:27,600 Speaker 5: to be in our community.